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| 01:24.34 | hipitihop | I have a mythtv setup in the house and it would be neat to sometimes take the phone and watch a recorded program as a stream using wireless on the phone. Is this reasonable ? |
| 01:25.15 | ndnihil | I don't see why not, I've used it to watch my security cameras |
| 01:27.07 | hipitihop | ndnihil: very cool... so do I need special optimised encoding for the FR ? what player ? |
| 01:27.52 | ndnihil | I just used the glamo patched mplayer |
| 01:30.06 | hipitihop | glamo patched ? ...(searching wiki) do you know if that is in qtmoko by any chance ? |
| 01:30.25 | ndnihil | don't recall where I picked it up |
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| 06:25.03 | bxyrk | howdy folks... anyone still up? |
| 06:25.10 | ndnihil | just us chickens |
| 06:26.04 | bxyrk | cool cool, i just recently got my freerunner back out of the closet again... been searching since yesterday trying to get it going again... |
| 06:26.46 | bxyrk | as soon as video inits... wsod |
| 06:27.12 | bxyrk | ...immense, the saddness is... and yoda, i am |
| 06:27.32 | ndnihil | reflash you must |
| 06:28.22 | bxyrk | nand, rootfs, and kernels, i have flashed. qi and u-boot, i have tried |
| 06:28.59 | ndnihil | what dist? |
| 06:29.12 | ndnihil | I'm using SHR from early september |
| 06:29.17 | bxyrk | shr, qtmoko, 2009.x, .... |
| 06:29.19 | ndnihil | not sure what the current state of it is |
| 06:29.38 | ndnihil | I've had the wsod on a couple occasions |
| 06:29.39 | bxyrk | wsod at the bootloader... |
| 06:29.47 | ndnihil | but that was fixed by flashing something that worked |
| 06:29.48 | bxyrk | i mean... how do you fix that? |
| 06:30.10 | ndnihil | can you boot from nor? |
| 06:30.11 | bxyrk | ...how do you fix wsod at NOR? |
| 06:30.17 | bxyrk | nope |
| 06:30.18 | bxyrk | ..lol |
| 06:30.32 | ndnihil | nor nand? (excuse the pun) |
| 06:31.44 | bxyrk | nope nope... well.. i can boot NOR and push the AUX once(with the white screen) to boot shr off sd... then i can ssh into it.. but it's not charging, even from wall unit, and takes all night to get enough back to try again |
| 06:32.15 | ndnihil | so even when it boots shr to the point you can ssh into it, it's white screened the whole time? |
| 06:32.22 | bxyrk | yup |
| 06:32.37 | bxyrk | and i can only get that far if i use NOR |
| 06:32.52 | ndnihil | tried dumping something directly to fb after you ssh into it? |
| 06:32.54 | bxyrk | neither u-boot or qi from nand get me anywhere |
| 06:33.09 | ndnihil | cat <whatever>.fb > /dev/fb0 |
| 06:33.38 | ndnihil | there are some example framebuffer images in shr-splash package |
| 06:33.44 | bxyrk | .. not as far as i can tell.. but only way i knew shr worked was because the eth device showed in dmesg |
| 06:34.23 | bxyrk | ...what could i spit to it?... i forgot about a straight cat... |
| 06:34.38 | ndnihil | hrm, hang on I'll stick a .fb image up for you |
| 06:35.10 | bxyrk | cool.. didn't there used to be one for download?... or was the bootscreen update a diff image type? |
| 06:35.25 | ndnihil | there's an shr package for it |
| 06:35.35 | bxyrk | cool |
| 06:35.38 | ndnihil | havent seen it on other dists, but I've been running shr for a while |
| 06:36.44 | bxyrk | yeah... i tried 2009 when i think the second revision came out.. and before that liked the qt based run... but almost right after 2009 started acting right... it poo'd on me and i started hacking on my psp |
| 06:38.50 | ndnihil | http://nihil.rchomepage.com/misc/moko/shrboot.fb |
| 06:38.51 | ndnihil | wget that |
| 06:39.11 | ndnihil | should be a black screen with white text "shr booting" |
| 06:39.16 | ndnihil | or something to that effect |
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| 06:40.19 | bxyrk | cool cool... thanks... i'll let you know... is that know to clear a wsod sometimes? |
| 06:40.30 | ndnihil | haven't tried |
| 06:40.47 | ndnihil | haven't even heard of it being tried |
| 06:40.48 | bxyrk | cool... sounds fun |
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| 06:49.06 | bxyrk | no worky... and the batt farted out and halted |
| 06:49.08 | bxyrk | couldn't find the sys device to force charging... |
| 06:50.18 | bxyrk | openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20090502-om-gta02.rootfs.tar + uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02 on sd |
| 06:53.38 | bxyrk | i read in one of the lists that some/all (don't think they were sure where i read it) of wsod were from init timings not allowing for glamo to wake up... but maybe that was just for the resume ones.... |
| 06:54.10 | ndnihil | you mentioned you had battery issues |
| 06:54.21 | bxyrk | no charging after boot |
| 06:54.30 | ndnihil | ah |
| 06:54.40 | ndnihil | wonder what's up with that |
| 06:55.06 | ndnihil | perhaps running it off USB is just enough power to boot, but not enough for the display |
| 06:55.48 | bxyrk | before the WSoD, i was playing with debian on sd... and i was just installing stuff... and i was messing around and once i got enlightenment going...(desktop wasn't the first thing i was worried about) i noticed it hadn't been charging... so i shut it down |
| 06:56.40 | bxyrk | i tried different distros, flash and sd... but no charge... it ran fine from the battery... but wouldn't charge |
| 06:56.53 | ndnihil | do you have an alternate means of charging the battery? |
| 06:56.58 | bxyrk | none |
| 06:57.23 | ndnihil | how about a powered USB hub |
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| 06:57.29 | ndnihil | something that will let it have more current |
| 06:57.39 | bxyrk | and... once the "permanant" WSoD set in... i just cried and had to use my 8125/w810i |
| 06:57.54 | bxyrk | .. i have the wall charger.. i know it works |
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| 06:58.21 | bxyrk | charges other devices fine.. a pushes the whole amp to my htc... |
| 06:58.32 | bxyrk | and* |
| 06:58.47 | ndnihil | did you check the battery with a voltmeter? |
| 06:58.59 | bxyrk | no... |
| 06:59.54 | bxyrk | should i? i wouldn't be able to untill tomorrow morning.. but what could that tell me... it'll run for a minute off of a tether |
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| 07:00.55 | ndnihil | it should tell you what condition the battery is in after what should be a full charge |
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| 07:01.48 | bxyrk | ..how long should it take to trickle charge from flat to full? |
| 07:02.02 | ndnihil | dunno |
| 07:02.19 | bxyrk | never went that long.. just long enough to boot |
| 07:02.59 | bxyrk | ...i miss my fr so damn much... i mean, i did my nerdiest show offs with that little ARM |
| 07:05.12 | ndnihil | mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerSupply/battery org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo 2>/dev/null |
| 07:06.02 | ndnihil | does that say anything interesting? |
| 07:06.14 | bxyrk | hellz yeah with the dbus call.. forgot about that too... i've really been off of this horse for a while |
| 07:06.27 | bxyrk | ... waiting to trickle enough to boot... |
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| 07:07.32 | bxyrk | think it's going to... the sound init pop was kinda strong |
| 07:10.21 | bxyrk | put my neo back in my hosts file... |
| 07:13.50 | bxyrk | i have some hacked up usb cords lying around from making my gps for my psp's serial line... but i let my friend borrow my powered usb hub and i'm afraid to jump the batt. off of my tower's bus... |
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| 07:26.16 | beers | morning |
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| 07:26.34 | ndnihil | yank a 5V regulator out of something and feed it with a suitable wall-wart |
| 07:27.03 | ndnihil | hi beers |
| 07:28.17 | ndnihil | bxyrk: it should be 5V tolerant |
| 07:28.30 | ndnihil | pretty sure I read somewhere that people were jumping it from USB |
| 07:32.08 | bxyrk | ...sorry... pidgin doesn't do anything unless you sya my name... i've bumped it with usb alot... just afraid of going out my tower.. i always used a stripped usb out of my hub so i couldn't fry anything in the desktop |
| 07:32.42 | bxyrk | but yeah.. i'm willing to go for it... hold on |
| 07:33.03 | ndnihil | dont do it on my account |
| 07:33.15 | ndnihil | frying your USB bus would suck |
| 07:33.37 | ndnihil | I'd sooner tap the 5V coming off the wall charger and use that |
| 07:34.29 | bxyrk | yeah yeah "not responsible for damaging your yada yada..." i'm not that guy that sues ronald McDonald for getting fat... ya know? |
| 07:34.38 | ndnihil | ;) |
| 07:35.08 | ndnihil | even still, I'd probably use the wall wart over the workstations USB bus any day |
| 07:35.16 | bxyrk | second the wall brick idea...first desktop since my last died... totally another story |
| 07:36.27 | bxyrk | so.. which is more important to be on the money with? A or V? |
| 07:36.41 | ndnihil | you'll need both within spec |
| 07:36.53 | ndnihil | I wouldn't go over 5.5V or so |
| 07:37.12 | ndnihil | and you'll need at least 750mAh I think |
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| 07:38.02 | bxyrk | old charger for bt headset? 5.0v at 550ma? |
| 07:38.02 | ndnihil | kinda shy on current, but worth a shot I guess |
| 07:38.04 | bxyrk | yeah.. wouldn't get more from the deskotp |
| 07:38.23 | ndnihil | worst that could happen (assuming you dont reverse polarity) is that it wont boot |
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| 07:39.20 | ndnihil | what does the FR wall charger put out as far as current goes? |
| 07:40.03 | lindi-_ | ndnihil: the label says 1000mA? |
| 07:40.13 | ndnihil | that should be plenty I'd think |
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| 07:41.16 | bxyrk | i thought the charger didn't go the whole amp till it negotiated...? |
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| 07:42.12 | ndnihil | is it that smart? |
| 07:42.37 | lindi-_ | bxyrk: charger does not negotiate |
| 07:43.08 | bxyrk | ...dunno... i know it has the pin.... oh yeah... the fr doesn't pull the 1.0 till it sees the resistor? |
| 07:43.20 | bxyrk | you know.. it takes a couple ms... |
| 07:45.01 | bxyrk | giong to smoke with the g/f... i've been all hunched over the kb/fr for a min... gotta talk to her without looking over my shoulder every so often... ya know? ... lol |
| 07:45.31 | ndnihil | makes a whipping sound at bxyrk |
| 07:46.14 | bxyrk | shit dude... i wanna hear the "insert cracking noise" sometime in the next month... lmao |
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| 07:53.19 | bxyrk | k... so i'm doing this next to the router.. if i get a time out right after this... well... it was a fubar |
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| 08:10.24 | bxyrk | ...nothing happened yet... how can i find polarity without tester? |
| 08:11.12 | bxyrk | wait... there's a stripe... just a dirty cable... |
| 08:11.21 | ndnihil | eh |
| 08:11.23 | ndnihil | I'd test it first |
| 08:11.29 | bxyrk | stripe's like red right? |
| 08:11.35 | bxyrk | yeah... |
| 08:11.39 | ndnihil | not always |
| 08:12.31 | bxyrk | no way to tell outside of testing against ground..? |
| 08:13.01 | ndnihil | wait until you get a meter in your hands |
| 08:13.04 | ndnihil | just to be safe |
| 08:14.13 | bxyrk | so... if i did use usb... and i put an unpowered hub inbetween battery and the tower? |
| 08:14.48 | ndnihil | it's your call |
| 08:14.56 | ndnihil | but personally I'd hold off until I had the right equipment |
| 08:15.34 | bxyrk | so, i do test against ground to tell + from - right? |
| 08:16.05 | ndnihil | not sure what you mean by "against ground" |
| 08:16.17 | bxyrk | ..to be honest... neither do i |
| 08:16.19 | ndnihil | when you hook up the meter |
| 08:16.25 | ndnihil | you get +5V |
| 08:16.28 | ndnihil | or -5V |
| 08:16.37 | ndnihil | +5V is the right polarity |
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| 08:16.45 | ndnihil | -5V is reversed |
| 08:16.49 | bxyrk | works for me |
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| 08:17.42 | bxyrk | so +5 sould be a + to - connection on both sides? |
| 08:18.01 | ndnihil | ? |
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| 08:18.37 | bxyrk | i'm pretty hardware stupid... gimme a nix stack and i can do stupid stuff |
| 08:18.54 | ndnihil | your meter should have two leads, one positive, one negative |
| 08:19.02 | bxyrk | yup |
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| 08:19.18 | bxyrk | +red -blach |
| 08:19.26 | bxyrk | black... geez... |
| 08:19.33 | ndnihil | when you get +5V (or simply 5V on most meters), the wires are equivalent to the labeled meter leads |
| 08:19.48 | bxyrk | k... now i understand |
| 08:19.59 | bxyrk | sorry you had to spell it... i'm slow sometimes |
| 08:20.27 | ndnihil | no problem |
| 08:20.34 | bxyrk | i'm not really that nubby usually |
| 08:21.33 | bxyrk | so i wanna make a circuit to jump?... or match |
| 08:21.43 | bxyrk | or i could rtfw |
| 08:22.04 | ndnihil | hook positive to positive |
| 08:22.07 | ndnihil | negative to negative |
| 08:22.12 | ndnihil | it's a parallel circuit |
| 08:22.28 | bxyrk | thought so... |
| 08:23.13 | bxyrk | see?.. conversation with a human is so much faster than searching... i love irc |
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| 08:29.17 | bxyrk | worked with usb... booting.. i'm so impatient |
| 08:29.35 | bxyrk | usbnet will prolly kick me off... |
| 08:32.57 | bxyrk | i lied... won't make the whole boot... |
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| 14:00.35 | Natanaiel | does anybody have a manual to add right to left support to wikireader? |
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| 19:25.43 | *** topic/#openmoko is Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org | Before asking read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 | Recommended SHR: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-*--20090808-om-gta02.rootfs.* || |
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