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| 02:17.35 | slaxxer | im sorry jeorg,, i meant that my phone is working |
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| 03:05.27 | slaxxer | that wikireader makes an ebook reader also? |
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| 03:11.14 | ndnihil | not by default |
| 03:11.33 | ndnihil | stick your own dataset in it and it should suffice |
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| 03:42.45 | ndnihil | haven't poked at it much |
| 03:42.56 | ndnihil | did verify that the tomtom mapping wont run on the gta02 though |
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| 09:46.44 | ftn | Hi there. Is it possible to not have my phone profile reseted to default whenever I restart the Fr? pls |
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| 09:57.08 | peppino55 | hi |
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| 10:08.21 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ftn: ask dos1 when he gets online. There probably should be a mdbus call to shr-settings that changes profile settings, you could call that somewhere in xsession init |
| 10:08.50 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ftn: if you are on SHR anyway |
| 10:09.04 | ftn | sure, Thanks! |
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| 10:27.39 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2d2d9aa56d8d 10/libfsotransport/ (fsotransport/commandqueue.vala tests/testcommandqueue.vala): |
| 10:27.39 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: libfsotransport: revert using a generic argument as CommandQueue command, |
| 10:27.39 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: we require commands to be derived from CommandQueueCommand instead. |
| 10:44.09 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rf6e8dbc7958f 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/commandqueue.vala: libfsotransport: slight interface signature change |
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| 14:39.35 | thegreen4me | is there an svg editor in the shr repositories? |
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| 14:44.19 | Sharwin_F | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:30.01 | PBeck | hi |
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| 15:36.46 | brian_ | how |
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| 15:38.53 | brian_ | hackable1 worked for a day |
| 15:38.55 | TeLLuS | hi |
| 15:39.25 | brian_ | now i cant recieve a call |
| 15:39.39 | brian_ | might be at&t though |
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| 15:45.25 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r22225488aea4 10/fsogsmd/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: more callhandler work |
| 15:48.19 | brian_ | might be at&t though |
| 15:48.46 | brian_ | is therte a reason that duke3D an doom dont work? |
| 15:49.07 | brian_ | ? |
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| 16:24.25 | Tanuva | where does shr's today screen get it's missed calls count from and how can I reset that? |
| 16:25.21 | johnsu01 | I really wish clicking on that notifier opened the messages app for incoming messages |
| 16:25.50 | johnsu01 | (also that new messages appeared without having to close and re-open messages) |
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| 16:28.47 | Tanuva | I really wish shr-today would show that there actually is a new sms and not the notifier I can only see when unlocking the screen (= closing shr-today) |
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| 16:29.33 | Tanuva | shr's wiki doesn't have a page about shr-today, some docs around here? |
| 16:31.08 | tschaka | Tanuva i guess shr today will be able to do this as soon as opimd is implemented |
| 16:31.40 | Tanuva | hmm... so I need to buy some chocolate for the opimd guys :) |
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| 16:41.54 | DocScrutinizer-8 | opimd *is* implemented (though really needs major rework) |
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| 17:07.21 | tschaka | DocScrutinizer but it isnt in the latest shr unstable, i guess, right? i am sure tanuva was reffering to this. :) |
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| 17:20.23 | Tanuva | tschaka: yep,I was. btw, any status update about shr feed updates? |
| 17:21.55 | DocScrutinizer-8 | tschaka: opkg update; opkg install opimd-utils |
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| 17:26.08 | Tanuva | I'm getting loads of "opkg: fork failed" while installing opimd-utils... |
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| 17:31.21 | UndrWater | Tanuva: recent flash? |
| 17:31.25 | DocScrutinizer-8 | missing ram, check wiki - stop processes (like X) or add swap |
| 17:32.02 | Tanuva | ah, okay |
| 17:32.02 | UndrWater | missing ram...how often does that happen? |
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| 19:09.11 | thrashold | Fuck me. |
| 19:09.13 | thrashold | It sucks when your desktop PC has slower HD access than your FreeRunner |
| 19:09.18 | thrashold | My RAID is currently resyncing with 300 KB/s |
| 19:09.30 | thrashold | And my IRC client took 7 minutes to start :( |
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| 19:57.37 | Think-Free | Hi ! |
| 19:58.18 | Zorkman | llo |
| 19:58.34 | Think-Free | I can find the persistent file for the gps .. I have to delete it |
| 19:58.41 | Think-Free | Any ideas ? |
| 19:59.02 | PaulFertser | Think-Free: uhm? Delete it? |
| 19:59.21 | Zorkman | Think-Free free: what do you mean and what distro are you using? |
| 19:59.31 | Think-Free | yes, the file with persitant position |
| 19:59.36 | Think-Free | debian |
| 19:59.53 | PaulFertser | Think-Free: so? You have to delete it, you delete it, what's the problem? |
| 20:00.22 | Think-Free | I can get a fix anymore, I've not used the gps for one month |
| 20:00.40 | Think-Free | No, I've not deleted it |
| 20:00.49 | Think-Free | I can't find it >_< |
| 20:01.02 | PaulFertser | < Think-Free> I can find the persistent file |
| 20:01.18 | Think-Free | sorry, *can't |
| 20:01.57 | PaulFertser | Think-Free: /etc/freesmartphone/persist/ogpsd.pickle |
| 20:02.11 | Think-Free | Thanks ;) |
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| 20:03.18 | PaulFertser | Think-Free: if you haven't turned on it for a month, the stale data shouldn't have any ill effect on getting a fix. In theory. |
| 20:03.23 | Think-Free | I've not the folder 'persist' :/ |
| 20:03.38 | Think-Free | Sure ? |
| 20:03.50 | PaulFertser | Think-Free: i do have that folder and that file |
| 20:03.53 | Think-Free | Well, so I wonder why I can't |
| 20:05.03 | Think-Free | I left it switched on for about an hour and I've got any fix |
| 20:06.42 | Think-Free | PaulFertser : Thanks, I'll look at it ! |
| 20:06.53 | PaulFertser | Think-Free: welcome |
| 20:07.11 | PaulFertser | Think-Free: probably your reception conditions are suboptimal. |
| 20:07.32 | PaulFertser | Think-Free: you better try it outside |
| 20:08.10 | Think-Free | I was outside :/ |
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| 20:08.40 | PaulFertser | Think-Free: probably you have a case of "mysterious gps malfunction that cures itself". You can ask dos1 about it. |
| 20:09.26 | dos1 | Think-Free: does gps see some satelittes? |
| 20:09.27 | Think-Free | Ok ! Thanks very much ! |
| 20:09.35 | Think-Free | no, any |
| 20:09.44 | dos1 | Think-Free: i mean "see", no "connect to" |
| 20:09.46 | dos1 | Think-Free: so SHR Settings displays something like "0/12" |
| 20:09.56 | dos1 | or just "unknown" or "0/0"? |
| 20:10.12 | Think-Free | Tangogps display 0/12 |
| 20:10.15 | dos1 | if unknown or 0/0, then probably that's problem which i had ;) |
| 20:10.20 | Think-Free | zhone, anythink |
| 20:10.25 | dos1 | 0/12 is ok, then you probably have just weak signal |
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| 20:11.12 | Think-Free | Well, I'll wait more time ... |
| 20:11.36 | PaulFertser | dos1: if it's 0/0 it looks like fso can't communicate with the gps chip at all, right? |
| 20:11.37 | Think-Free | I'm in the city so with buildings it may cause the weak signal |
| 20:11.54 | dos1 | PaulFertser: well, it depends |
| 20:12.04 | PaulFertser | Think-Free: waiting more than 1 hour in the same place not changing anything is impractical i'd say. |
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| 20:12.31 | Think-Free | I was walking in the street with the gps turned on ... |
| 20:13.01 | dos1 | when walking it can have problems with getting fix |
| 20:14.06 | Think-Free | ok ! |
| 20:16.21 | Think-Free | Thanks very much, I'll try it more |
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| 20:20.40 | Nebukadneza | heho |
| 20:21.23 | PaulFertser | OMFG i just tried to listen to the music on a FR that is not bass-fixed. |
| 20:21.48 | PaulFertser | It's just unbearable really |
| 20:22.00 | PaulFertser | I can't imagine why people use intone and the like ever. |
| 20:22.42 | PaulFertser | Switch my fixed FR in place and the difference is huge. |
| 20:23.20 | Nebukadneza | what is the distribution / part of moko that one would like to have on a "as stable as possible" neo currently? |
| 20:23.33 | Nebukadneza | i just lend myself a neo from a friend to play with and feel a bit lost ATM |
| 20:23.41 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: shr unstable |
| 20:24.09 | Nebukadneza | okay |
| 20:24.52 | Nebukadneza | so for a gta02 i'd need this: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.tar.gz and http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe11+gitr119844+a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8-r3.5-om-gta02.bin |
| 20:24.56 | Nebukadneza | right? |
| 20:26.57 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: right |
| 20:27.00 | Nebukadneza | yay :) |
| 20:27.26 | Nebukadneza | is flashing as straight forward as the manual makes it look like? |
| 20:27.37 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: it is |
| 20:27.50 | Nebukadneza | nice |
| 20:29.51 | Nebukadneza | oh tbw |
| 20:29.53 | Nebukadneza | *btw |
| 20:30.00 | Nebukadneza | is nand flash or uSD recommended? |
| 20:30.05 | Nebukadneza | (and for what reason) |
| 20:32.14 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: i'd flash SHR on NAND to always have it in case my SD is not working. |
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| 20:32.28 | Nebukadneza | ok |
| 20:32.34 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: but i use debian on SD actually |
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| 20:32.50 | Nebukadneza | *g |
| 20:32.53 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: and my NAND still has om2007 which i start only to fix some config issues that prevent me from booting sd :) |
| 20:32.54 | Nebukadneza | so to realy be sure: |
| 20:33.25 | Nebukadneza | i'll download the .jffs image and the uImage and simply issue the dfu-util commands on the shr user manual page on my PC to which the freerunner is connected |
| 20:34.19 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: during that you should ensure the bootloader is active on the device. |
| 20:34.32 | Nebukadneza | how do i ensure that? |
| 20:34.42 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: also take care to not discharge the battery completely, it's problematic to recharge it sometimes. |
| 20:34.43 | Nebukadneza | (and: won't dfu-util not work if its not active?) |
| 20:35.04 | Nebukadneza | sure, as normal for LiIon |
| 20:35.46 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: it's not normal that i had to use a lab power supply to actually boot my FR and charge my FR :( |
| 20:38.15 | Nebukadneza | ourghs |
| 20:38.17 | Nebukadneza | right |
| 20:38.22 | Nebukadneza | thats not normal |
| 20:42.44 | Nebukadneza | mhmm |
| 20:43.07 | Nebukadneza | dfu tells me that no DFU capable usb device was found |
| 20:43.54 | Nebukadneza | also the howto lists 0x1d50:0x5119 for the usb dev id, but i have 1457:5122 |
| 20:43.59 | Nebukadneza | (not connected via a hub) |
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| 20:45.41 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: probably you're not in the bootloader then |
| 20:46.11 | Nebukadneza | ah, i need to get into uboot |
| 20:46.21 | Nebukadneza | powerup + holding aux (the button at the top of the phone), right? |
| 20:47.10 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: if you hold aux first and then poweron (by whatever means, plugging usb in or pressing power button), you'll get in NOR u-boot. |
| 20:47.38 | Nebukadneza | ah |
| 20:47.39 | Nebukadneza | kay |
| 20:47.41 | Nebukadneza | i'm there |
| 20:47.41 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: and it's good for uploading images to device but can't download from device (not useful anyway). |
| 20:48.14 | Nebukadneza | mhmmm |
| 20:48.19 | Nebukadneza | No such Alternate Setting: "rootfs" |
| 20:48.19 | Nebukadneza | :/ |
| 20:49.24 | PaulFertser | Nebukadneza: try again/reboot uboot |
| 20:49.51 | Nebukadneza | ok |
| 20:50.54 | Nebukadneza | ah |
| 20:51.14 | Nebukadneza | http://nopaste.com/p/aVMJ4nEseb |
| 20:51.16 | Nebukadneza | different error |
| 20:57.38 | Nebukadneza | nops |
| 20:57.42 | Nebukadneza | can't get it to flash ;/ |
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| 20:58.16 | Nebukadneza | i get the -71 error in dmesg too: [76880.318705] usb 7-2: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd dfu-util rqt 33 rq 1 len 4096 ret -71 |
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| 21:02.07 | Nebukadneza | PaulFertser: no idea? :/ |
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| 21:06.41 | brian_ | try flashing 3 times before giving up |
| 21:07.45 | Nebukadneza | i tried flashing a heck lot more times |
| 21:07.49 | Nebukadneza | always with reboots in between |
| 21:07.55 | Nebukadneza | or shall i leave out the reboots? |
| 21:09.43 | Nebukadneza | uh |
| 21:09.46 | Nebukadneza | works on my desktop |
| 21:09.48 | Nebukadneza | bad usb cable? |
| 21:11.22 | Nebukadneza | oh btw |
| 21:11.32 | Nebukadneza | what about that qt extended improved? |
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| 21:15.21 | brian_ | leave out the reboot |
| 21:15.57 | Nebukadneza | well, was a bad usb cable, seems to flash at first try now |
| 21:16.16 | brian_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.31 | brian_ | 2 wires instead of 4 |
| 21:17.15 | brian_ | i used the 172 meg hackable1 today |
| 21:17.26 | brian_ | too huge |
| 21:17.39 | brian_ | then gsm quit working |
| 21:18.00 | brian_ | using mrmoku latest image now |
| 21:19.18 | linuxxr | is it shr? |
| 21:19.28 | linuxxr | debian? |
| 21:20.36 | linuxxr | if shr be sure to reboot after getting booted the first time sos usb-networking will work |
| 21:21.12 | Nebukadneza | 172meg hackable1? |
| 21:21.25 | linuxxr | its big |
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| 21:21.36 | linuxxr | too big |
| 21:21.51 | Nebukadneza | and ... what is it? |
| 21:22.05 | Nebukadneza | i mean |
| 21:22.21 | linuxxr | http://download.hackable1.org/ |
| 21:22.22 | Nebukadneza | simply another moko image with like ... support for basic things like phoning? |
| 21:22.26 | linuxxr | debian |
| 21:22.38 | linuxxr | yup |
| 21:22.57 | Nebukadneza | okay |
| 21:23.00 | Nebukadneza | hows the usability? |
| 21:23.08 | linuxxr | i suggest shr |
| 21:23.20 | Nebukadneza | oh, ok |
| 21:23.39 | Nebukadneza | and that mrmoku? |
| 21:23.51 | Nebukadneza | any better than shr? (Oo not having run shr yet) |
| 21:23.59 | linuxxr | hackable1 looks similar to 2007.2 |
| 21:24.10 | linuxxr | no |
| 21:24.17 | linuxxr | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.26 | Nebukadneza | ah |
| 21:24.28 | Nebukadneza | whats the difference? |
| 21:24.47 | linuxxr | 4-5 days shr will have a new image for us |
| 21:25.26 | linuxxr | mrmoku made some newer images but they may not work |
| 21:25.38 | linuxxr | they were shr also |
| 21:25.57 | Nebukadneza | so mrmoku are just "trunk" images of shr? |
| 21:26.12 | linuxxr | http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/ |
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| 21:27.33 | linuxxr | they have a newer date |
| 21:28.02 | Zorkman | linuxxr: the mrmoku images are experimental |
| 21:28.10 | Zorkman | there is a lot of xorg stuff going on |
| 21:28.21 | Zorkman | and they want to get it all right before syncing the unstable branch |
| 21:28.32 | Zorkman | you can aks mrmoku himself in #openmoko-cdevel |
| 21:29.18 | linuxxr | so we figure 12212010? |
| 21:29.20 | Nebukadneza | :) |
| 21:29.29 | Nebukadneza | its nice to see development for moko going on |
| 21:30.01 | linuxxr | i used 1 for 1 day |
| 21:30.44 | linuxxr | im on my second freerunner |
| 21:31.35 | linuxxr | i had it in my pocket while working an hit it with a branch an cracked the screen |
| 21:31.50 | linuxxr | so i replaced the screen |
| 21:32.17 | linuxxr | with a defective freerunner i bought for 75 bucks |
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| 21:34.29 | SpeedEvil | what was wrong with the brokenmoko? |
| 21:34.48 | linuxxr | the replacement? |
| 21:34.54 | linuxxr | gps |
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| 21:35.11 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 21:35.21 | linuxxr | i think it is the antennae module i think |
| 21:35.31 | Nebukadneza | mh |
| 21:36.02 | Nebukadneza | can't press the next button on hte select application menu |
| 21:36.06 | Nebukadneza | (system default is entered there) |
| 21:36.24 | linuxxr | select an option first |
| 21:36.29 | Nebukadneza | did |
| 21:36.45 | linuxxr | press for 2 seconds |
| 21:37.13 | linuxxr | no? |
| 21:37.16 | Nebukadneza | no |
| 21:37.20 | linuxxr | hmm |
| 21:37.49 | linuxxr | i know it dont sound good but reboot |
| 21:37.57 | Nebukadneza | doing that |
| 21:38.15 | linuxxr | which shr did u use? |
| 21:38.29 | linuxxr | 0906? |
| 21:38.36 | linuxxr | shr-unstable? |
| 21:38.37 | Nebukadneza | Prof. Brinkschulte leitet den Forschungsbereich "Mikrorechnertechnologien für die Automatisierung" am Institut für Prozessrechentechnik, Automation und Robotik der Universität Karlsruhe. Sein Arbeitsschwerpunkt liegt im Bereich Middleware für verteilte eingebettete Echtzeitsysteme, sowie Hard- und Software für rekonfigurierbare, verteilte Systeme. Er ist Mitinitiator der "Organic Computing Initiative" (O |
| 21:38.44 | Nebukadneza | waaa |
| 21:38.45 | linuxxr | :) |
| 21:38.47 | Nebukadneza | sorry |
| 21:38.49 | Nebukadneza | wrong paste |
| 21:38.54 | Nebukadneza | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 and http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe11+gitr119844+a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8-r3.5-om-gta02.bin |
| 21:39.28 | SeligArkin | Red flashy AUX = kernel panic, yes? |
| 21:39.37 | linuxxr | yup |
| 21:39.46 | SeligArkin | Hmm, wonder what caused the panic |
| 21:39.58 | linuxxr | openmocow?/ |
| 21:40.14 | linuxxr | i dont know |
| 21:40.27 | linuxxr | i reboot once a day |
| 21:40.32 | Nebukadneza | ah |
| 21:40.34 | Nebukadneza | works now |
| 21:40.40 | linuxxr | yup |
| 21:41.01 | linuxxr | gsm takes about 1 minute |
| 21:41.22 | linuxxr | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.36 | linuxxr | gentoo ubuntu, debian? |
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