| 00:00.29 | DocScrutinizer-8 | yoh |
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| 02:34.46 | Cristianpark | Hi there, as I promised to KenYoung, I come here to say that I have my SIM back again in the FR and have GSM working |
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| 02:46.02 | slaxxer | yea |
| 02:46.04 | mostly_useless | anyone using a prepaid at&t sim in their freerunner? |
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| 02:46.53 | slaxxer | some att sims that have ofset contacts wont work |
| 02:47.05 | slaxxer | offset* |
| 02:47.19 | slaxxer | on this phone |
| 02:50.58 | Cristianpark | guys, so far, the only way to probe Android is how its described by Jim Ancona here: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3684132 ??? |
| 02:51.55 | DocScrutinizer-8 | I strongly suggest to use pipermail links, rather than nabble |
| 02:51.56 | Cristianpark | so, if I have SHR on my FR (flashed via dfu-util), I'll lost it? |
| 02:52.33 | DocScrutinizer-8 | err, please elaborate/rephrase |
| 02:53.11 | mostly_useless | slaxxer: heh, well the reason I ask is because mine seems to not work. :-) I'm sure it's one of those then. |
| 02:53.42 | mostly_useless | too bad about skype lite being useless. |
| 02:53.49 | slaxxer | well look at the contacts |
| 02:54.15 | DocScrutinizer-8 | mostly_useless: have you updated modem FW? |
| 02:54.16 | slaxxer | twinkle? |
| 02:54.35 | DocScrutinizer-8 | twinkle? |
| 02:54.47 | mostly_useless | DocScrutinizer-8: the gsm firmware to version 11? |
| 02:54.49 | slaxxer | hi DOC |
| 02:55.06 | DocScrutinizer-8 | mostly_useless: then that's not the cause |
| 02:55.09 | Cristianpark | DocScrutinizer: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-September/055575.html |
| 02:58.04 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Cristianpark: so what's the question? |
| 02:59.58 | slaxxer | atleast the cupcake keyboard is the correct color |
| 03:00.24 | Cristianpark | the question is: AFAIK, if I have SHR installed via dfu-util, if I want to try Android, I lost that SHR installation? |
| 03:01.01 | slaxxer | no |
| 03:01.18 | slaxxer | :) |
| 03:01.51 | DocScrutinizer-8 | I have no idea about android, but iirc it's installed to uSD, so no, you probably won't lose the SHR installation |
| 03:02.33 | Cristianpark | in the link I paste says: This install process overwrites *everything* on the NAND inthe phone, including the bootloader. If this is not what you would like to do, please don't install this release! |
| 03:02.43 | Cristianpark | that's why I'm confused |
| 03:03.10 | DocScrutinizer-8 | hmm, as well as I am |
| 03:03.54 | DocScrutinizer-8 | sounds rather scary anyways |
| 03:06.10 | Cristianpark | hehehe....yeah, it does |
| 03:08.04 | Cristianpark | well guys, I have to go to bed. See ya, thanks for the help |
| 03:08.04 | mostly_useless | if anyone's interested: it also says that it destroys everything on the uSD, but that's not true with current releases. (my pictures/music sit comfortably on the card even after flashing a new build). |
| 03:09.07 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.18 | slaxxer | kills qi an all |
| 03:09.38 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.01 | slaxxer | so hows it work anyways? |
| 03:10.16 | slaxxer | u have the buxx fix? |
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| 03:19.49 | SpeedEvil | sighs, and tries to remember to duct-tape the rf-kill-switch. |
| 03:29.29 | slaxxer | they want that fbreader to be like a toaster -- they wish |
| 03:29.53 | slaxxer | maybe walmart will pick up the ball |
| 03:34.26 | slaxxer | http://thewikireader.com/ |
| 03:39.12 | slaxxer | maybe if they make 1.2 million then the gta03 will arrive |
| 03:40.27 | slaxxer | attachable personal device |
| 03:40.53 | slaxxer | lets help advertize |
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| 03:49.20 | slaxxer | http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/10/13/wikireader-packs-all-of-wikipedia-in-a-power-sipping-portable/ |
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| 03:55.51 | mostly_useless | really? |
| 03:56.06 | mostly_useless | that's what they canceled gta03 for, isn't it? |
| 03:58.14 | ndnihil | sadly, yes |
| 03:58.42 | slaxxer | naaa |
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| 03:59.02 | raster | slaxxer: gta02 isnt never going to happen. |
| 03:59.18 | raster | openmoko has no more software or hardware staff |
| 03:59.20 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.21 | ndnihil | my gta02 happened, kinda |
| 03:59.33 | raster | last i checked it was sean+will |
| 04:00.06 | SpeedEvil | no - gta03 was cancelled as they ran out of funding for it. |
| 04:00.08 | slaxxer | use the same case an build a good board |
| 04:00.34 | slaxxer | thats why they are selling these wikireaders |
| 04:00.51 | slaxxer | to make mo money |
| 04:00.57 | SpeedEvil | Well... |
| 04:01.12 | SpeedEvil | There is the _huge_ problem that the n900 sets a top-end of the market |
| 04:01.35 | SpeedEvil | and than many customers that may have wanted a gta03 will - instead of getting a gta03 - get a n900. |
| 04:01.43 | SpeedEvil | So you'd have to price it considerably down from that |
| 04:02.10 | raster | slaxxer: sean ceased being interested in linux and phones. |
| 04:02.35 | raster | spoe yup. the target customers for a gtya02 are those that want top-end |
| 04:02.51 | raster | they want powerfl, runs linux and all the stuff they want to. not limited. |
| 04:03.22 | raster | gta03 had its dat and opportunity. that day is coming to an end as the big boys are not going there |
| 04:03.35 | raster | and they can do it better and cheaper thanks to volumes and existing product runs. |
| 04:03.48 | SpeedEvil | So you either have to compete directly with nokia, undercut them - and live with small margins - or do something they aren't. |
| 04:03.49 | slaxxer | were Doomed |
| 04:03.50 | raster | om had a chance to enter the market before everyone else woke up. |
| 04:04.26 | raster | slaxxer: no. you just need to make some compromises for some closed things - like telephony and some drivers and proprietary ui apps |
| 04:04.27 | SpeedEvil | And the undercut them thing is horribly risky, as chinese vendors can do that too. |
| 04:04.33 | raster | and work with what the big boys ship |
| 04:04.37 | raster | replace/add/modify what u can |
| 04:05.02 | raster | SpeedEvil: yup. undercutting is a game om cant really do becaue the software is open and free |
| 04:05.11 | raster | someone else can udnercut u and take all your software work for free |
| 04:05.21 | raster | u only stay in that game by not undercutting but by just being better |
| 04:05.40 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.44 | raster | ie making the better devices first with the best components and with the best device+software integration and newest features |
| 04:06.08 | SpeedEvil | Which regrettably equals huge up-front funding. |
| 04:06.30 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.45 | slaxxer | how do they do it |
| 04:06.51 | SpeedEvil | Phones are not sold at a loss. |
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| 04:07.07 | SpeedEvil | They are sold subsidised by the networks after very careful and detailed analysis. |
| 04:07.44 | slaxxer | considering a 2 year contract for 100 bucks a month |
| 04:08.20 | SpeedEvil | For example - yes - your n900 on a 12 month contract may be free - and the first year actually very good value. |
| 04:08.52 | SpeedEvil | But if you don't cancel immediately and move onto a new contract - you're vastly overpaying. |
| 04:08.59 | raster | sle the phone maker doesnt take the loss |
| 04:08.59 | SpeedEvil | And many people simply won't cancel. |
| 04:09.03 | raster | the telco does |
| 04:09.10 | raster | it pays for part or all of the phone cost for u |
| 04:09.10 | SpeedEvil | And it's not a loss. |
| 04:09.21 | raster | gets a volume discount for buying like 1 million phones |
| 04:09.29 | SpeedEvil | Or rather - averaged over the market it's not a loss. |
| 04:09.34 | raster | and then it triews to get the money back from u through monthyl fees over time |
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| 04:09.52 | SpeedEvil | There may be individual phones or plans or ... that don't make money - iphone forex. |
| 04:10.06 | raster | SpeedEvil: its a loss if they didnt lock u in :) |
| 04:10.40 | SpeedEvil | Only if they don't have a contract with an appropriately set minimum term - and almost all do. |
| 04:11.00 | SpeedEvil | The remainder that I've found seem to have relatively small buy-in bonuses. |
| 04:11.22 | SpeedEvil | Seemingly based on the fact that you're going to stay at least 3 months on average. |
| 04:11.33 | raster | SpeedEvil: oh of course. iw as just using the terms slaxxer did so it fits in with his idea of selling at a loss |
| 04:11.38 | raster | not the phone companies loss |
| 04:11.42 | raster | its all in the telcos hands |
| 04:12.08 | raster | like sony, xbox .. they sell to you at a loss.. or at cost in the hope of making profits on games and peripherals |
| 04:12.22 | SpeedEvil | The 'skype on mobiles' - is typically not the normal skype - but goes via calls? |
| 04:12.24 | SpeedEvil | to take this off at a tangent. |
| 04:12.26 | raster | its a long-term strategy you need a fat mountain of cash to start doing |
| 04:12.40 | raster | dont know |
| 04:13.53 | SpeedEvil | Wondering as one telco here is offering 'free skype forever' - no need to even top up |
| 04:14.01 | SpeedEvil | also free MSN forever. |
| 04:16.10 | raster | well one thing i think the android skype does it make your incoming calls real calls for skype |
| 04:16.21 | raster | as an ip session wont work as the cpu is suspended |
| 04:16.27 | raster | but outgoing is data calls |
| 04:17.10 | raster | and skyp charge YOU via the skype out or in system for the redirected call |
| 04:17.19 | raster | as the call goes to them then gets passed onto your mobile number |
| 04:17.31 | raster | and the telco has a deal with skype to share that income? |
| 04:17.53 | raster | (in many ways this is awesome for telcos as YOU no longer control your spending. everyone who calls YOU does) |
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| 04:20.29 | slaxxer | so this n900 works on all networks at&t sprint? |
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| 04:21.38 | AntonTakk2 | slaxxer: specs i saw said quad band gsm + 3.5g and hsdpa data |
| 04:22.43 | AntonTakk2 | so are all the known hardware problems supposed to be fixed in the A7? |
| 04:24.13 | slaxxer | where can u buy an a7? |
| 04:24.34 | AntonTakk2 | i thought the web store was going to sell them once the A6s were gone |
| 04:27.13 | slaxxer | http://openmoko.com/index.html |
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| 04:29.31 | AntonTakk2 | wow....somebody fire the web developer |
| 04:29.38 | AntonTakk2 | quick |
| 04:29.45 | AntonTakk2 | er, designer |
| 04:30.38 | SpeedEvil | It's not a designer. |
| 04:30.46 | SpeedEvil | They will call themselves an artist. |
| 04:30.49 | SpeedEvil | It's a concept. |
| 04:31.43 | slaxxer | its the KISS standard |
| 04:32.21 | AntonTakk2 | hrm |
| 04:33.31 | slaxxer | http://www.idasystems.net/ |
| 04:33.36 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:37.04 | AntonTakk2 | well, anyways, i only ask because i was thinking i might buy an a7 if it has all the known hardware issues fixed so I could make a case more to my liking with the 3d printer and laser cutter i am considering buying for making my robots |
| 04:39.21 | _Andrew | The web desigjn is ugly |
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| 04:49.39 | slaxxer | moko robot brain |
| 04:59.35 | _Andrew | The worse thing about this design is the the text is images |
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| 05:00.33 | chx_afk | Hey! this wikireader stuff looks awesome. LCD or electronic ink? |
| 05:02.37 | SpeedEvil | LCD |
| 05:03.08 | slaxxer | etch n sketch |
| 05:03.25 | chx_afk | LCD :( oh well. it still is great |
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| 06:00.59 | slaxxer | http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002N5521W/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new |
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| 06:41.47 | raster | slaxxer: check specs. for calls it is quad-band for gsm, tri-band wcdma (hspa etc.) |
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| 06:41.56 | raster | so u'll only get high speed data on 900, 170 and 2100mhz |
| 06:42.23 | raster | but calls and up to edge should work on 850/900/1800/1900 |
| 06:43.39 | raster | http://www.nokiausa.com/find-products/phones/nokia-n900/specifications |
| 06:43.48 | raster | there in details |
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| 06:54.54 | CIA-44 | openmoko: - gps.sch and ECN0008: added value for C7601 |
| 06:54.54 | CIA-44 | openmoko: - ECN0008: added some more components removals (already implemented) |
| 06:54.54 | CIA-44 | openmoko: - moved ECN0008 to "Execute" |
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| 07:46.31 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: ogpsd: Correct the comment about usage of SBAS |
| 07:46.31 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: We set mode to 1 which means we use SBAS but not if its in test-mode. |
| 07:48.53 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03baruch 07framework * r043cef6d2122 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:48.53 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: ogpsd: Set NAV2 parameters to define the static threshold to reduce movement noise |
| 07:48.53 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: when the GPS is stationary. |
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| 11:01.58 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r6c774ac55ec5 10/fsogpsd/src/lib/receiver.vala: fsogpsd: receiver: add some logic from fsogsm modem class |
| 11:05.40 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r64ba87e46e99 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/modem.vala: fsogsmd: modem: data is now a class in the modem interface, not a toplevel class |
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| 13:12.05 | spaetz | wikireader is shipping worldwide BTW, for those that were concerned about Europe... |
| 13:12.15 | spaetz | just discovered that on their web |
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| 13:27.33 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-10-14 09:46:29] <mstevens> they seem to have updated the shipping rules, worldwide now (#openmoko-wikireader) |
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| 13:29.58 | jcc | DocScrutinizer: new channel? |
| 13:30.43 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, kinda. yes |
| 13:31.15 | DocScrutinizer | hi jc btw :-) |
| 13:31.21 | CIA-44 | openmoko: 03werner * r5691 10/trunk/gta02-core/docs/ecn/ (STATUS ecn0038.txt): |
| 13:31.21 | CIA-44 | openmoko: - moved ECN0019 (Buzz fix) to "Done" |
| 13:31.21 | CIA-44 | openmoko: - reviewed ECN0038 (speaker EMI filter) and moved it to "Execute" |
| 13:32.17 | PaulFertser | jcc: hey :) do you think it'd be nice we could Cc openmoko-kernel ML when submitting upstream patches so interested parties will see the status and discussions around that? |
| 13:33.08 | jcc | PaulFertser: I think yes. |
| 13:33.20 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: hi! hehe your fav topic ;-P |
| 13:34.02 | PaulFertser | jcc: but you know we can't do that, can we? |
| 13:34.13 | jcc | PaulFertser: Should I go subscribe something use that e-mail address? |
| 13:34.32 | PaulFertser | jcc: sorry? |
| 13:34.33 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: I think everybody registered with [kernel] actually can |
| 13:35.26 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: if we put Cc on upstream patches there's a high probability unregistered people will comment and face that ugly "awaiting moderation" messages and such. |
| 13:35.34 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: obviously not for the discussion though |
| 13:35.44 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
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| 13:36.53 | jcc | PaulFertser: let me going in mailman first. |
| 13:37.15 | DocScrutinizer | jcc: I think paul wants to ask you to enable anonymous posts to [kernel] |
| 13:37.35 | jcc | haven't login that for a long long time. and I will let you know what is the setting on that one. |
| 13:37.35 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: and no linux kernel MLs work like that obviously, they all accept mails from everybody, sometimes with a bit of greylisting/silent moderation. But i'm yet to see a single spam message that passes SPF test so for now it seems that letting those mails that pass it is reasonable. |
| 13:38.16 | PaulFertser | jcc: TIA |
| 13:38.46 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: I do no moderation of any of the OM lists. So I dunno about the actual amount of moderated mails |
| 13:39.01 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: i know :) |
| 13:40.02 | jcc | PaulFertser: give me couple minutes to get the info. |
| 13:40.08 | DocScrutinizer | for any moderator it should be easy to estimate how many mails will become "false accepts" if we change policy to anonymous posting enabled |
| 13:40.33 | DocScrutinizer | (aka spam) |
| 13:40.35 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: not really. I propose enabling strict SPF checking first. |
| 13:43.20 | jcc | PaulFertser: the problem is how much mail will pass the SPF check? |
| 13:43.49 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rd638a04abec1 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/ (Makefile.am parser.vala): libfsotransport: add generic Parser class (from fsogsmd) |
| 13:43.56 | DocScrutinizer | jcc: do you ask about false positives or false negatives? |
| 13:44.36 | PaulFertser | jcc: if your legit mail doesn't pass SPF it means you should change your mail provider, just that. Sane devs should be able to do that easily. |
| 13:46.13 | jcc | PaulFertser: like openmoko.org? this seems no SPF record setting. well, I am shooting myself. |
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| 13:49.15 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1e0da4c1dacf 10/fsogsmd/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: catch up with parser moving to libfsotransport |
| 13:50.43 | DocScrutinizer | jcc: I didn't dare to speak out loud, but that's been exactly my suspicion XD |
| 13:53.09 | jcc | 90 mails(spammy) in last month |
| 13:57.26 | jcc | PaulFertser: average 90 mails in moderated list every month. |
| 13:59.57 | CIA-44 | openmoko: 03werner * r5692 10/trunk/gta02-core/docs/ecn/ (STATUS ecn0010.txt): - reopened ECN0010 (as "Discuss") and added summary of power supply discussion |
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| 14:22.59 | DocScrutinizer-8 | jcc: will you join 26C3 in Berlin, end of year? |
| 14:26.40 | jcc | DocScrutinizer: low possiblilty to be there, why? |
| 14:27.16 | DocScrutinizer-8 | just curious |
| 14:28.27 | jcc | DocScrutinizer-8: I would like to join that again. |
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| 15:05.23 | PaulFertser | jcc: how many of those 90 mails would pass SPF test? |
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| 15:10.19 | objorn | PaulFertser: i had to wait until today to purchase the phon |
| 15:10.29 | objorn | what's the diff of gsm 850 and 900? |
| 15:10.34 | PaulFertser | objorn: MAJOR |
| 15:10.50 | PaulFertser | objorn: you need to buy the one that will work with your cellular carrier. |
| 15:12.52 | objorn | thank you much, will keep you updated |
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| 15:43.22 | jcc | PaulFertser: about 0 will pass. |
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| 15:47.39 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re5b50df81947 10/ (9 files in 4 dirs): libfsotransport: commandqueue moves to here, comes from fsogsmd |
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| 15:51.28 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r885f3b0859c6 10/libfsotransport/tests/ (Makefile.am testcommandqueue.vala): libfsotransport: add test for command queue |
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| 15:53.54 | PaulFertser | jcc: exactly what i expected ;) |
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| 16:05.33 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r5ef80503aaaa 10/vapi/elm.vapi: elm.vapi: catch up with Photocam API as per upstream rev 43072 |
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| 16:17.06 | PBeck | hi |
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| 18:24.56 | freegurj | hi anyone now how to reboot FR without removing battery |
| 18:25.42 | freegurj | my phone hangs often so i need to reboot it by removing battery |
| 18:26.57 | beer | I know how to reboot it from qtmoko |
| 18:27.50 | beer | press the right hardware button and then there will come som gui where you can reboot fr |
| 18:27.51 | beer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.38 | SpeedEvil | beer: Unlikely. |
| 18:28.50 | johnsu01 | hmph we need a mute button on calls |
| 18:29.03 | SpeedEvil | beer: To make GTA03 they'd need >$1M really. |
| 18:29.21 | beer | so the FR is still the best open phone this dayes? |
| 18:29.33 | SpeedEvil | For the next week. |
| 18:29.51 | SpeedEvil | FR is the most open phone - and is likely to be so for the immediate future. |
| 18:30.05 | SpeedEvil | N900 - though shiny - has considerable closed portions. |
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| 18:33.00 | beer | with the n900 can I easly shift the OS out with another? |
| 18:33.17 | SpeedEvil | No - there are some elements that are closed. |
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| 18:33.30 | SpeedEvil | It is very open compared to almost any other phone though. |
| 18:33.40 | SpeedEvil | you get root, and can run your own programs for example. |
| 18:34.16 | beer | also compared to those androids phone (magic, hero ets)? |
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| 18:37.17 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 18:37.28 | SpeedEvil | android - you can - basically only run java programs |
| 18:39.45 | radekp | freegurj: if you hold the POWER button for 8s it will power off Freerunner - it's builtin function in kernel so it should work on every distro |
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| 18:42.18 | freegurj | eadekp: I see thanks |
| 18:43.13 | freegurj | In linux there is alt+sysrq+r,e,i,s,u,b I thout FR have something like that |
| 18:43.28 | SpeedEvil | If you plug in a USB keyboard :) |
| 18:43.42 | freegurj | wellwell holding powe button is still ok for me |
| 18:43.43 | panicking | you can use echo on the proc filesystem |
| 18:44.27 | DocScrutinizer-8 | SpeedEvil: are you sure magickeys is enabled? |
| 18:44.38 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: no. |
| 18:45.03 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: and you'd need to turn on host mode and setup the keyb first anyway |
| 18:45.16 | DocScrutinizer-8 | lol, sure |
| 18:45.43 | DocScrutinizer-8 | btw the 8sec hard shutdown even is a hw function of PMU basically |
| 18:46.18 | DocScrutinizer-8 | zhough needs some bits of support from kernel |
| 18:46.41 | DocScrutinizer-8 | like enabling the bit in the right reg in PMU |
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| 18:57.23 | radekp | can anyone help me how can i see modem AT log in SHR? |
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| 19:17.27 | DocScrutinizer-8 | mwester has a kernel patch for tty logger |
| 19:17.50 | DocScrutinizer-8 | otherwise you have /var/log/*.log only |
| 19:17.56 | DocScrutinizer-8 | afaik |
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| 19:32.01 | Blu3 | freegurj, yes, FR can do that |
| 19:32.40 | Blu3 | but you need to echo 1 > ... |
| 19:32.47 | Blu3 | eg. how to forcibly reboot a linux server: |
| 19:32.47 | Blu3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.47 | Blu3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.47 | Blu3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.47 | Blu3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:22.35 | zear | hey guys |
| 20:23.08 | zear | say, is this channel in any way related to the newest creation from openmoko - the wikireader? |
| 20:25.41 | max_posedon | #openmoko-wikireader |
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| 20:25.42 | zear | max_posedon, thank you |
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| 23:10.37 | objorn | trying to figure out how i would attach the device to something like this: http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmwrusb.htm ...a portable keyboard |
| 23:11.49 | SpeedEvil | You need a cable, and you plug it in |
| 23:12.29 | objorn | SpeedEvil: brilliant! |
| 23:12.42 | objorn | actually, i was trying to figure out how to make it more like... |
| 23:13.29 | objorn | http://www.amazon.com/Stowaway-Ultra-Slim-Bluetooth-Blackberry-Handhelds/dp/B0002OKCXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1255561990&sr=1-1 |
| 23:13.42 | objorn | or one of the foldable keyboards with a docking bay for the particular phone |
| 23:14.18 | objorn | maybe if i cut out a channel or whatever it's called and the make the device myself which slides into the keyboard |
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