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| 00:18.13 | CIA-44 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5657 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (9 files in 2 dirs): execute ecns 26 (SD card filters), 30 (Telit modem) and 34 (spi to DEBUG connector) |
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| 01:15.21 | hipitihop | I'm still getting following error whenever I do opkg update && opkg upgrade on shr-u * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for fsousaged: * libfso-glib0 (>= 0.2.1+gitr47+7608c8d98bb65bb5beca6621eb86920b71df1bc9) * |
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| 01:19.43 | max_posedon_ | hipitihop, install manually |
| 01:19.51 | max_posedon_ | at least I did so |
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| 03:03.23 | Cristianpark | Hi guys.....I recently install SHR on the NAND Memory, previously installed on MicroSD and I getting this error when I try to upgrade with opkg upgrade |
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| 03:03.50 | Cristianpark | Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for fsousaged: * libfso-glib0 (>= 0.2.1+gitr47+7608c8d98bb65bb5beca6621eb86920b71df1bc9) * |
| 03:05.03 | Cristianpark | someone has experienced this too? |
| 03:05.15 | Cristianpark | any idea how to solve it? |
| 03:14.38 | hipitihop | hey Cristianpark, snap |
| 03:17.09 | Cristianpark | Time Stamp: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:34:21 +0200 |
| 03:17.39 | Cristianpark | And Kernel: Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc3 #1 PREEMPT Sun Aug 16 22:19:46 CEST 2009 armv4tl unknown |
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| 03:43.32 | Cristianpark | http://tinypaste.com/0111ecc |
| 03:43.42 | Cristianpark | there is the complete error |
| 03:44.13 | Cristianpark | I'll review your answers tomorrow, thanks for your help |
| 03:44.29 | Cristianpark | have Free Dreams......see you |
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| 04:15.20 | vegyraupe | a good (early) morning everyone :) |
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| 04:55.35 | dklight | hi |
| 04:55.45 | dklight | i need some help to flash a neo1973 |
| 04:55.50 | dklight | anyone? |
| 04:57.04 | beer__ | maybe http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner ? |
| 04:57.38 | dklight | yea |
| 04:58.22 | dklight | i have some trouble finding the correct rootfs image for my gta1_vb4 device |
| 04:58.49 | dklight | the problem is that i dont know what is the correct one |
| 04:59.09 | beer__ | what disotr have you been looking at? |
| 04:59.17 | beer__ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download |
| 04:59.26 | beer__ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions |
| 04:59.31 | dklight | just the default, to start |
| 05:00.03 | dklight | i have been looking in http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.12/ |
| 05:00.22 | dklight | but the only rootfs image seems to be for the gta2 |
| 05:00.35 | dklight | i think that is the freerunner? |
| 05:01.11 | beer__ | yes it is |
| 05:01.41 | beer__ | and there is no image from 2009 either |
| 05:01.48 | dklight | so i surfed the dirs looking for some other gta01_bv4 rootfs |
| 05:02.01 | dklight | it doasnt mather if is an older image |
| 05:02.19 | dklight | at this point i only want to have my cell restored :( |
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| 05:02.49 | beer__ | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta01/ <- shr has still support for gta01 |
| 05:03.04 | beer__ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR |
| 05:03.34 | dklight | ok |
| 05:03.39 | dklight | i will read this |
| 05:03.41 | dklight | thanks |
| 05:03.56 | beer__ | np |
| 05:08.22 | dklight | have you installed debian in one of this? |
| 05:08.30 | dklight | looks to be a little mor complicated |
| 05:08.36 | dklight | is it? |
| 05:09.34 | beer__ | I have never done it myself (installing debian) becouse it looks complicated. One of my friends tried and it took around 8 hours but that was back in the days when the freerunner was just releaseed |
| 05:10.13 | dklight | ok |
| 05:10.18 | beer__ | myself I using qtmoko (debian image) or SH un my freerunner (switching from time to time to see how they improve) |
| 05:10.47 | dklight | i think shr is the best way :/ |
| 05:11.14 | dklight | the worst thing is that it is not my own phone |
| 05:11.28 | dklight | its of a friend :S |
| 05:11.30 | tomcatek | SHR is the fastest developed distro for FR |
| 05:11.43 | tomcatek | and it works well |
| 05:11.53 | dklight | tomcatek: i have a neo1973 |
| 05:11.56 | beer__ | I have never heard of somebrokes he phone bfreo with falshing a root image |
| 05:12.47 | dklight | i start updating with opkg |
| 05:12.56 | dklight | the flash got full |
| 05:13.10 | dklight | i panick, restarted the phone |
| 05:13.12 | dklight | and... |
| 05:13.23 | tomcatek | dklight: soltys wos testing gta01 with SHR, and it wos working. there are some issues while connecting USB cable |
| 05:13.44 | dklight | issues? ie? |
| 05:13.57 | tomcatek | dklight: it hanges up :) |
| 05:14.03 | dklight | ouch |
| 05:14.07 | beer__ | dfu-util is also a nice way to flash |
| 05:14.12 | beer__ | sudo dfu-util -a kernel -R -D name-of-file.bin |
| 05:14.18 | beer__ | sudo dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D name-of-file.jffs2 |
| 05:14.38 | dklight | i was trying this, but without any succes witha gta2 image |
| 05:14.42 | dklight | oviously |
| 05:15.17 | dklight | i feel like swimming with sharks :S |
| 05:16.12 | tomcatek | hehehe |
| 05:16.42 | tomcatek | gta02 have much more memory |
| 05:17.00 | tomcatek | try installing SHR on uSD |
| 05:18.43 | dklight | i think ill start trying with the standard SHR in the internal flash |
| 05:19.04 | tomcatek | "standard" = gta01 image? |
| 05:19.18 | dklight | yes |
| 05:20.27 | dklight | ive almost downloaded shr-lite-glibc-ipk--20090906-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 05:20.41 | dklight | with the uImage-2.6.29-oe11+gitr119844+a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8-r3.5-om-gta01.bin kernel |
| 05:23.36 | tomcatek | dklight: keep us informed :] |
| 05:36.08 | dklight | ok, ive flashed both rootfs and kernel |
| 05:36.31 | dklight | i can just restart the device now? |
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| 05:39.16 | dklight | jojo |
| 05:39.25 | dklight | seems to be working |
| 05:49.40 | dklight | thanks tomcatek! |
| 05:50.02 | dklight | i have my phone again + a lot of useful experience! |
| 05:50.59 | dklight | ill be trying other distros from this part of the world |
| 05:51.06 | dklight | greetings from uruguay! |
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| 08:58.40 | badcloud | anyone here use openmoko-dates? I'm having trouble importing my ics file |
| 08:59.19 | badcloud | the appointment times are correct, but they're displayed two hours too early on the calendar |
| 08:59.34 | viq | time zone settings "Somewhere" |
| 08:59.44 | badcloud | time zone setting is fine |
| 08:59.59 | badcloud | at least 'date' is displaying it fine |
| 09:00.00 | viq | in ical? in openmoko-dates? |
| 09:00.19 | badcloud | in openmoko-dates... where's that? |
| 09:00.24 | viq | and does date properly display the time zone you're in? |
| 09:00.37 | viq | hell if I know, just saying that all parts need to be aware of time zone |
| 09:00.58 | badcloud | 'date' does |
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| 10:13.36 | mortenlysgaard | is the 20090808 still the recomended? |
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| 10:46.37 | DocScrutinizer-8 | rumor has it 20090906 is ok as well |
| 10:49.13 | twotwenty | SHR is kinda like the main line openmoko distro right now? |
| 10:50.05 | DocScrutinizer-8 | err, what should I say? What's mainline anyway? |
| 10:51.10 | DocScrutinizer-8 | SHR seems what a lot of users prefer |
| 10:52.46 | DocScrutinizer-8 | and SHR has become reference platform for FSO framework |
| 10:53.41 | DocScrutinizer-8 | OM (the company) seems out of SW business |
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| 11:08.23 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: I'm betting they are really not, and will pop up with a revolutionary UI in 3 months, based on a USB ASR-33. |
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| 11:20.20 | DocScrutinizer-8 | SpeedEvil: lol |
| 11:21.22 | SpeedEvil | goes back to coding http-compressor. |
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| 11:23.04 | DocScrutinizer-8 | SpeedEvil: I seem to remember there's a thing like http-compression already? |
| 11:23.13 | SpeedEvil | yeah. |
| 11:23.15 | SpeedEvil | It sucks. |
| 11:23.34 | SpeedEvil | There are about 8 ways to do it all of which suck. |
| 11:23.42 | DocScrutinizer-8 | hehehehe |
| 11:23.57 | DocScrutinizer-8 | http://heise.de |
| 11:24.10 | SpeedEvil | I've not seen the variant I'm trying, which involves a large cache on the device, with a matching identical cache on the proxy |
| 11:24.27 | DocScrutinizer-8 | iirc they implemented compression years ago, which really made a huge difference |
| 11:24.58 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ooh, proxy supported compression |
| 11:25.09 | DocScrutinizer-8 | that's a different story |
| 11:26.08 | SpeedEvil | go to ebay.com twice, and you get pages which differ by 500 or so bytes every time. But every time they're different. just compress the page, and you get to 15K or so. Send compressed diffs, and you can get under 200 bytes. |
| 11:26.54 | DocScrutinizer-8 | sounds like youshould base on rsync code ;-) |
| 11:27.25 | SpeedEvil | rsync + large RTT links? |
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| 11:27.55 | DocScrutinizer-8 | RTT? |
| 11:28.11 | SpeedEvil | rsync is also not as efficient as it has to negotiate the differences. But if the proxy has already sent the device the file against which it's diffing - that is insane. |
| 11:28.14 | SpeedEvil | Round trip time |
| 11:30.08 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: I studied something like that |
| 11:30.38 | SpeedEvil | The big disadvantage is that for a commercial or multi-user proxy you need to store 100 meg of context or more per device. |
| 11:30.46 | mjr | I wrote a bit of python that did the split-after->-and-send-line-ranges thing |
| 11:31.02 | mjr | didn't get the networking stuff working and got tired of it |
| 11:31.08 | mjr | made it greedy for lower latency |
| 11:31.47 | mjr | was better than rsync for relevant stuff |
| 11:31.48 | SpeedEvil | Yeah - latency is another big issue - if you know that the client hasn't seen a new page, and will automatically download it on seeing the URL you are providing - you can just push it. |
| 11:31.53 | Fox_Muldr | hi, is there anywhere a newer libfso-glib0 (>=0 0.2.1) for shr to install? because of the dependency from fsousaged i can't upgrade shr anymore since a few days. or should i just wait a bit with upgrading until this is solved? |
| 11:33.51 | mjr | I can dig my code up from somewhere if someone likes |
| 11:34.12 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Fox_Muldr: the advisory word of maintainers: "ignore it. It doesn't break anything" |
| 11:34.16 | mjr | I'm probably not gonna have the energy to continue |
| 11:34.28 | SpeedEvil | mjr: if it's easy to get to - might be interesting to look at. |
| 11:34.34 | Fox_Muldr | ok so i have to upgrade with force option? |
| 11:34.51 | SpeedEvil | mjr: Though I can't promise to actually do anything with it. |
| 11:35.07 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Fox_Muldr: aiui just ignore the warning |
| 11:35.16 | SpeedEvil | mjr: currently I'm trying to work out the absolutely laziest way to do this. |
| 11:35.36 | DocScrutinizer-8 | dos1: PING!!! |
| 11:35.54 | Fox_Muldr | DocScrutinizer: tnx for the hint :) |
| 11:35.55 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer-8: pong? |
| 11:36.02 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ^ |
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| 11:36.10 | dos1 | Fox_Muldr: yup, just ignore it, it doesn't change anything with upgrading |
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| 11:37.18 | dos1 | Fox_Muldr: btw, there was no upgrades in shr since few days |
| 11:37.30 | dos1 | well, upgrade with that broken dependency was the last |
| 11:37.36 | DocScrutinizer-8 | dos1: please adjust chan topic |
| 11:38.13 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer-8: we have built everything from scratch already, instead of adjusting chan topic we should test that upgrade and sync it if it works :P |
| 11:38.31 | DocScrutinizer-8 | dos1: even better |
| 11:38.32 | mjr | SpeedEvil, http://mjr.iki.fi/software/aprox/ , I'll note that I was trying to learn the python neworking thingy and the code using that sucks big time ;P |
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| 11:39.51 | SpeedEvil | thanks! |
| 11:40.28 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: do you plan to make your solution http specific? |
| 11:40.36 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: It's pretty much got to be. |
| 11:40.54 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: Well - it'd work for ftp too. |
| 11:40.54 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: I tried to make mine more general purpose (for arbitrary tcp streams) |
| 11:41.11 | mjr | SpeedEvil, oh, and there's probably not licensing information; use whatever you like if you decide to use it |
| 11:41.14 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: hmm. That's not an insane idea. It's a lot harder. |
| 11:41.14 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: but I hit problems. how do I know when to flush the data to client? |
| 11:41.33 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: http has some nice properties. The pages are discrete. |
| 11:41.35 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: other issues is muxing |
| 11:41.37 | SpeedEvil | They are textish. |
| 11:41.38 | mjr | and the PDF in there is not directly relevant to the piece of code, it's from my friend's earlier similar project |
| 11:41.49 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: you want to have multiple streams over a single tcp connection possibly |
| 11:42.03 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: ssh works for that. :) |
| 11:42.17 | mjr | (a project which has been lost in time and which didn't do this, exactly) |
| 11:42.26 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: connecting to a new web page has overhead with ssh tunneling |
| 11:42.34 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: it needs to setup a new channel |
| 11:42.41 | mjr | yeah I was also planning to use ssh for compression and tunneling |
| 11:42.50 | mjr | but, the overhead is a point |
| 11:43.03 | lindi- | so I ended up wondering how to do simple muxing protocol |
| 11:43.31 | SpeedEvil | i was sidestepping it by only sending complete http page diffs, and waiting till it downloads completely on the proxy before doing that |
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| 11:44.08 | DocScrutinizer-8 | err, simple tunneling? vpn? |
| 11:44.09 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: as in patch(1)? |
| 11:44.20 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer-8: tcp over tcp won't work |
| 11:46.05 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: pretty much exactly patch - though not using the exact protocol. So you request http://site.com/1 and it finds that there are bits of site.com/2 and google.com/3 that you have a copy of - and it sends the links to those, and the new text |
| 11:46.33 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: xdelta3 is probably better? |
| 11:46.40 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: to make up /1 as the whole page |
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| 11:48.22 | DocScrutinizer-8 | SpeedEvil: that sounds pretty much like what each compressor like e.g. lzh is doing by default. Have a large dictionary and history buffer, and code by self-reference to prior parts |
| 11:48.51 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer; exactly - it's nothing really innovative. It's just nobody seems to have implemented it in a decent way. |
| 11:49.02 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer-8: general purpose algorithms don't really cope with really large buffers |
| 11:49.32 | mjr | SpeedEvil, yeah I made the differ so that it can spew stuff out as fast as it comes in to the proxy |
| 11:49.34 | SpeedEvil | yeah - 100M history blocks don't generally work well with general purpose algos. |
| 11:49.47 | DocScrutinizer-8 | lindi-: dunno. Seems it depends on implementation and parameters |
| 11:49.58 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer-8: well the search algorithms from that buffer can be linear |
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| 16:11.35 | mortenlysgaard | Does it take a long time to boot the first time after flashing. |
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| 16:17.14 | Cristianpark1 | Yes mortenlysgaard, it takes a little bit to boot |
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| 16:20.50 | mortenlysgaard | Cristianpark1: Hmm. It booted fine, but now the pin dialog won't show, and in /var/log/ophonekitd.log it reads tenfolds of lines with: dbus not aviable, try again in 5 sec. |
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| 16:24.18 | Cristianpark1 | what distro are u using? SHR? |
| 16:28.03 | mortenlysgaard | Cristianpark1: Yup |
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| 16:45.11 | mortenlysgaard | How do i install the gry* theme. I have the gry.edj file but where do i put it? |
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| 16:58.39 | panicking | larsc, No lack at boot |
| 16:58.41 | panicking | :) |
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| 17:01.29 | panicking | Do you have seen this error gpiochip_add: gpios 256..276 (glamo) not registered |
| 17:01.30 | panicking | glamo-gpio glamo-gpio.0: Could not register gpio chip: -22 |
| 17:01.30 | panicking | glamo-gpio: probe of glamo-gpio.0 failed with error -22 |
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| 17:06.34 | larsc | yes i do |
| 17:06.48 | larsc | seems as if there is a patch missing |
| 17:07.39 | larsc | you need to select select S3C24XX_GPIO_EXTRA64 |
| 17:07.47 | panicking | thanks :) |
| 17:07.51 | Chocky | moo |
| 17:11.04 | panicking | larsc, Last question if I can |
| 17:11.06 | panicking | set_machine_constraints: unsupportable 'memldo' voltage constraints |
| 17:11.06 | panicking | pcf50633-regltr: probe of pcf50633-regltr.10 failed with error -22 |
| 17:11.10 | panicking | I have this problem too |
| 17:12.13 | larsc | memldo isn't used anyway |
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| 17:16.41 | Chocky | so, a Danish friend of my claims that good beer is now hard to find in Denmark |
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| 17:19.01 | panicking | I have a patch for the wifi |
| 17:19.11 | panicking | move the operation to the new interface |
| 17:19.24 | panicking | netdev_ops |
| 17:22.34 | PaulFertser | panicking: please send it to the ML and CC Werner. :) |
| 17:22.44 | larsc | panicking: there should be a patch in my tree that does the same |
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| 17:26.35 | panicking | well, I don't find it and just write |
| 17:26.37 | panicking | one |
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| 18:13.16 | cbrake | I just loaded the latest Qi, kernel, and SHR on gta02 |
| 18:13.27 | cbrake | I get a little text on the screen HDQ Error 1 |
| 18:13.41 | cbrake | and a bunch of unknown boot options messages |
| 18:14.03 | cbrake | any ideas what I might be doing wrong? |
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| 18:18.45 | cbrake | ahh, found the "power" before kernel boots |
| 18:18.49 | cbrake | now getting more messages |
| 18:20.18 | cbrake | hmm, fair amount of jffs2 error messages |
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| 18:45.11 | grav | what packages do i need to compile any helloworld.c ? gcc (+symlinks and dependencies) gives lack of 'as' file during compilation |
| 18:45.20 | Chocky | binutils |
| 18:47.28 | grav | thx! |
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| 18:57.45 | cbrake | installing SHR to a SD seems to be working much better |
| 18:57.51 | cbrake | wonder if the NAND install is broke |
| 18:58.09 | cbrake | I never got the SHR splash screen with the NAND install |
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| 19:06.08 | mortenlysgaard | Does there exist a good messaging app for SHR, using opim? |
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| 19:32.56 | PaulFertser | mortenlysgaard: probably litephone or c_c's launcher? |
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| 21:01.30 | Cristianpark | Hi guys |
| 21:02.57 | Cristianpark | I've changed the apps icons on SHR from the preferences->appearence Menu selecting OpenMoko IconTheme instead of SHR |
| 21:02.57 | Undrwater | whassup |
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| 21:03.21 | Cristianpark | and I lost the icons for Dialer, Messages and Contacts |
| 21:03.51 | Cristianpark | there is a easy way to recover them? |
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| 21:04.07 | Undrwater | desktop icons? |
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| 21:16.10 | Undrwater | Cristianpark: desktop icons? |
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| 21:24.56 | Cristianpark1 | sorry, I lost the connection |
| 21:25.07 | Cristianpark1 | where is the IRC log? |
| 21:25.23 | Chocky | Undrwater> Cristianpark: desktop icons? |
| 21:25.23 | Chocky | -:- SignOff polymar: #openmoko (Remote closed the connection) |
| 21:25.23 | Chocky | -:- SignOff agg1n: #openmoko (Success) |
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| 21:25.47 | Undrwater | :D |
| 21:25.49 | Cristianpark1 | Chocky: thanks |
| 21:26.30 | Undrwater | Cristianpark1: you can set desktop icons in /usr/share/applications/<app>.desktop |
| 21:26.46 | Undrwater | in many distros anyway |
| 21:31.13 | Cristianpark1 | Thanks, and where are the icon files by default? |
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| 22:00.08 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ~logs |
| 22:00.09 | apt | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 22:01.44 | Blastur | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.10 | DocScrutinizer-8 | [00:01] <Blastur> hi im not logged |
| 22:02.20 | DocScrutinizer-8 | no chance ;-) |
| 22:08.47 | Chocky | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.51 | Chocky | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.53 | Chocky | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.00 | Chocky | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.00 | Chocky | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.01 | Chocky | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:14.38 | Undrwater | logged? |
| 22:14.46 | Chocky | felled? |
| 22:14.53 | Undrwater | treed |
| 22:14.56 | Chocky | milled? |
| 22:14.58 | Chocky | papered? |
| 22:15.11 | Chocky | leafed |
| 22:15.21 | Undrwater | thumbed |
| 22:15.28 | Chocky | inked |
| 22:15.37 | Chocky | arse-wiped |
| 22:15.38 | Undrwater | spotted |
| 22:15.41 | Undrwater | :P |
| 22:15.48 | Chocky | flushed |
| 22:15.52 | Chocky | gives up |
| 22:18.39 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Undrwater: ??? |
| 22:20.11 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * r38457666000e 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/controller/resource.vala: Fix double emitted signal ResourceChanged. Thx to agg1n |
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| 22:57.51 | Undrwater | DocScrutinizer? |
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| 23:10.39 | Undrwater | [shr-u] anyone having difficulties with gps using latest update? |
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