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| 00:17.07 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03rehar * r5622 10/trunk/gta02-core/modules/lis302dl.fpd: |
| 00:17.07 | CIA-7 | openmoko: lis302dl.fpd |
| 00:17.07 | CIA-7 | openmoko: - clean-up & comments |
| 00:17.07 | CIA-7 | openmoko: - changed pin size |
| 00:17.07 | CIA-7 | openmoko: - changed 1.pin marker |
| 00:17.07 | CIA-7 | openmoko: - added solder land to outline distance calculation |
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| 00:24.01 | warren1 | I upgraded my shr-u on Saturday night, and since then I haven't been getting sms notifications. If I kill and restart the messages program I see my new SMSs, but no notifications. |
| 00:24.11 | warren1 | anyone seen anything like that? |
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| 01:42.54 | johnsu01 | What do I need to install from the lite image to get support for other filesystems on the sd card besides fat? |
| 01:42.57 | johnsu01 | shr |
| 01:43.49 | johnsu01 | or am I barking up the wrong tree |
| 01:45.38 | johnsu01 | e2fsprogs maybe.. |
| 01:49.48 | johnsu01 | still getting [23446.135000] mmcblk0: error -110 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x400b00 |
| 01:49.50 | johnsu01 | on my card |
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| 03:33.55 | Undrwater | johnsu01: how did you format your card, and are you using qi or uboot? |
| 03:34.50 | johnsu01 | Undrwater: it's ext3, and booting from uboot |
| 03:35.30 | Undrwater | johnsu01: have you tried using a com program to change your uboot environment? |
| 03:35.43 | Undrwater | or are you trying to boot from NOR? |
| 03:36.30 | johnsu01 | I'm booting by holding down AUX and then selecting Boot |
| 03:36.38 | johnsu01 | Qi is actually installed as the bootloader otherwise |
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| 04:34.07 | Undrwater | johnsu01: sorry...got distracted |
| 04:35.30 | Undrwater | that's NOR you're booting from...and if you simply select the "boot" option, it boots from the NAND by default |
| 04:37.22 | Undrwater | i just re-read your question....and yes, e2fsprogs will allow you to format ext* |
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| 05:43.27 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03rehar * r5623 10/trunk/gta02-core/modules/dfbm-cs320.fpd: started BT module footprint |
| 05:45.30 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: booting from NOR is deprecated and can have unexpected side-effects. Just FYI. |
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| 05:59.54 | johnsu01 | PaulFertser: booting from Qi spews the same mmcblk0 errors |
| 06:01.13 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: i don't say it's related. Just that NOR u-boot is so old that i wouldn't trust it to boot. |
| 06:06.31 | johnsu01 | also still getting the errors with glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=10000000 glamo_mci.sd_drive=2 |
| 06:06.36 | johnsu01 | sorry, drive=1 |
| 06:08.06 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: that's unfortunate. Have you tried another SD card? |
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| 06:34.03 | johnsu01 | hm actually /proc/cmdline doesn't show the options from append-GTA02 |
| 06:35.31 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: append-GTA02 is read only by Qi and only when you boot from SD. |
| 06:35.42 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: Qi can't read any files from jffs2 |
| 06:36.08 | johnsu01 | PaulFertser: so how does one set the kernel arguments booting from jffs2? |
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| 06:36.13 | johnsu01 | with Qi |
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| 06:37.05 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: either by modifying Qi source or by compiling a kernel with initramfs integrated that does kexec. |
| 06:37.29 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: you can change maximum clock and drive strength runtime |
| 06:37.45 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: through /sys/modules/glamo_mci/parameters |
| 06:42.34 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: moinmoin :-) |
| 06:43.21 | DocScrutinizer | johnsu01: or by using a decent bootloader like uBoot ;-P |
| 06:43.32 | johnsu01 | :) |
| 06:44.16 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: morning :) |
| 06:44.20 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: wasn't there some /boot/append.txt means to set cmdline params? |
| 06:44.39 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: on ext2 it can be read, on jffs2 -- no chance. |
| 06:44.48 | DocScrutinizer | aah i c |
| 06:44.55 | PaulFertser | Qi is SD-centric by design. |
| 06:45.02 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
| 06:45.21 | DocScrutinizer | never was meant for gta02 |
| 06:54.17 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03ccc94453 07stable * r4ed6f14590c4 10/board/neo1973/gta02/ (gta02.c pcf50633.c): U-Boot GTA02: Always enable charger on startup |
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| 06:58.15 | johnsu01 | hooray, working |
| 06:58.30 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: thank you, you reminded me of Rask's patch that was left there on ML because nobody considers himself an OM u-boot maintainer. |
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| 06:58.35 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: now pushed |
| 06:58.45 | johnsu01 | booting from sd with qi, with the clock parameter |
| 06:58.46 | PaulFertser | (though i don't consider myself to be a maintainer of anything) |
| 06:58.54 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: yay :D |
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| 06:59.01 | johnsu01 | either that or blowing in the sd slot fixed it ;) |
| 06:59.24 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: welcome. Though I still miss to ask him to fix the other uBoot nasties I found |
| 06:59.38 | DocScrutinizer | as well as the ones others found ;-P |
| 06:59.42 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: you can get max clk up to 16Mhz runtime and see if it breaks anything. |
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| 07:00.46 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: you're maintainer of almost everything. You just didn't realize yet ;-P |
| 07:01.14 | DocScrutinizer | people nag you with hw-issues even ;-) |
| 07:02.06 | DocScrutinizer | I wonder when first request for buzzfix parts hits your mailbox |
| 07:02.44 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: all was needed to get that (hw-issues questions) was me mentioning "TP DMM PSU" and some other cryptic words. :) |
| 07:03.11 | DocScrutinizer | If I still hoped for a job at OM and afiliates I really was angry on you ;-P |
| 07:03.15 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: i received requests from local guys to do buzzfix and/or #1024 fix but i said i lack good soldering equipmen. |
| 07:03.47 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: lol |
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| 07:43.08 | Docscrutinizer-8 | ~seen roh |
| 07:43.09 | ibot | roh is currently on #openmoko (1d 11h 14m 3s), last said: 'dhcp.. i mean the v6-address-autoconfiguration'. |
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| 07:55.53 | chiui | how I lost connection to the freerunner while upgrading, how to resume the upgrade? Will it resume the packages "configure" too? |
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| 08:11.39 | Docscrutinizer-8 | chiui: I think so. postinstall scripts are stored in filesystem and executed after *every* install/upgrade, until they succeed and auto-delete |
| 08:12.16 | chiui | thank you for the info :) |
| 08:12.21 | Docscrutinizer-8 | yw |
| 08:12.45 | chiui | it was even running on screen, but dropbear never started again :) |
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| 08:23.31 | lindi- | Docscrutinizer-8: opkg auto-deletes them? |
| 08:24.22 | Docscrutinizer-8 | lindi-: err, I only do wild guesses from what I experienced and concluded |
| 08:24.42 | lindi- | ok, dpkg does not delete postinst scripts |
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| 08:26.03 | Docscrutinizer-8 | I had to delete findutils(? iirc) postinstall script by hand as it failed and thus was triggered on each install of any pkg thereafter |
| 08:27.04 | Docscrutinizer-8 | so my guess is those scripts are deleted/deactivated after successful run |
| 08:27.42 | Docscrutinizer-8 | dunno if opkg does that or the script kills itself |
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| 09:20.53 | badcloud | man, someone has to get on translating neovento's todo's |
| 09:21.10 | badcloud | *howto's |
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| 09:35.00 | Docscrutinizer-8 | who cares about neovento? |
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| 09:53.57 | badcloud | Docscrutinizer-8, that's pretty harsh |
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| 10:07.39 | badcloud | Docscrutinizer-8, that was pretty harsh. it's not that bad |
| 10:14.05 | DocScrutinizer-8 | badcloud: hmm, no insult intended |
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| 10:33.48 | [Rui] | hi, obm seems broken in yesterday's shr-u |
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| 11:44.42 | ptero_ | has anybody here built om-touch or worked with the toolkit? i can't build qt, always running into errors, which seem easy, but i can't find any real documentation on building that shit properly. http://pastebin.com/d535fb828 |
| 11:44.43 | ptero_ | so, what i did was unpacking the toolkit, installing gcc and (to do more of what the toolkit doc said) libedje-dev, libmokoui2-dev, gconf-dbus-env. i also had to make symlinks for the gcc binaries, since qt-embedded's configure had another filenames for them |
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| 12:17.04 | DocScrutinizer | might be a question for *cdevel |
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| 12:51.01 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r0156eb4ebc32 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/ (accelerometer/plugin.vala accelerometer_lis302/plugin.vala): fsodevice: accelerometer: use threshhold + timeout instead of low pass filter to detect start/stop movements |
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| 13:57.07 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1b17791b7046 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/accelerometer_lis302/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: accelerometer_lis302: sample_rate, threshhold, full_scale configurable to customize movement detection |
| 13:57.08 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rbb3a09495420 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/accelerometer/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: accelerometer: first sketch at identifiying actual device orientation |
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| 14:13.13 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rcda4d3c4dd12 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/accelerometer/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: accelerometer: fix logic in intInRegion() and use ternary values for atoms |
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| 14:30.29 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: ping |
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| 14:37.56 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1a74440bda25 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/ (accelerometer/plugin.vala accelerometer_lis302/plugin.vala): fsodeviced: accelerometer[_lis302]: fix more bugs, add more debugging |
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| 14:48.17 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r271ab2481c93 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/ (accelerometer/plugin.vala accelerometer_lis302/plugin.vala): fsodeviced: accelerometer: finally fix intWithinRegion()... *sigh* |
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| 14:53.32 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r8b189e5017f4 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/accelerometer/plugin.vala: |
| 14:53.32 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: accelerometer: remove debug output, first version seems to work fine |
| 14:53.32 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: Now let's check CPU usage ;) |
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| 15:21.41 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r5cad20bc5a6d 10/fsodeviced/src/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fsodeviced: accelerometer: hook into FSO resource system; available as Resource 'Accelerometer' |
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| 15:57.16 | haeger | do i have this right, that there will no further dev on openmoko phones be done? |
| 15:57.47 | Chocky | no, you don't |
| 15:58.01 | Chocky | there is plenty of dev going on. see the wiki. |
| 15:58.07 | haeger | okay :) that's very nice |
| 15:59.33 | DocScrutinizer | cs info |
| 15:59.35 | haeger | on the software okay but is there a ongoing dev redarding the hardware? i have seen articles that mention that the dev on gta03 is discontinued |
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| 15:59.42 | Chocky | see the wiki |
| 15:59.44 | haeger | regarding |
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| 16:07.04 | DocScrutinizer | haeger: gta03 won't happen (anytime (soon)) |
| 16:08.06 | haeger | docscrutinizer: that's what i have heard too |
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| 16:14.20 | ShellEvil | gta02-core is being worked on |
| 16:14.36 | ShellEvil | but I'm unsure what funding the team doing that is planning on. |
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| 16:17.02 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r61cbc49eae24 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py: opimd: Messages: fix AddIncoming |
| 16:19.50 | DocScrutinizer | ShellEvil: I'm unsure my grammar processor is able to feed my semantics analysis stage correctly on your former post |
| 16:20.51 | Chocky | ShellEvil: made sense to me. In fact, a comma or too would spoil the meaning. |
| 16:22.26 | ShellEvil | gta02-core (the project) is being worked on |
| 16:22.51 | ShellEvil | I'm just not sure where the funding for the production of hardware gta02-cores'd come from. |
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| 16:37.54 | Weiss | runs BFS on his FR |
| 16:38.22 | DocScrutinizer | ShellEvil: for now that's a sad topic actually |
| 16:39.08 | ShellEvil | I'm not saying it's a bad idea - or an idea I don't want to see succeed - but funding is a problem. |
| 16:39.32 | DocScrutinizer | now that I know what's the meaning, the sentence looks pretty normal ;-P |
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| 16:39.51 | ShellEvil | It might be less of one if you can convince the OM factory - whatever the arrangements are - to make your gta02-cores - using hte same supply sources. |
| 16:41.03 | DocScrutinizer | setting up fab is a nightmare. Never will happen for core (at FIC) |
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| 16:42.10 | DocScrutinizer | sourcing was planned to see support from OM, but recently rumor has it that's quite uncertain |
| 16:45.04 | ShellEvil | :/ |
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| 16:50.27 | panicking | They can find other company that can support the gta02-core project |
| 16:51.23 | panicking | I'm working on a omap micro and the gta02 is far away from the omap performance |
| 16:51.31 | ShellEvil | panicking: Sure. |
| 16:51.37 | panicking | so move to the new samsung is an option |
| 16:51.53 | ShellEvil | panicking: Finding someone wiling to drop >100K isn't perhaps the easiest thing int he world. |
| 16:51.59 | ShellEvil | Even if it might end up profitable. |
| 16:52.09 | panicking | Dr zummo |
| 16:52.10 | panicking | ? |
| 16:52.12 | panicking | option |
| 16:52.18 | ShellEvil | And 100K is quite conservative |
| 16:52.22 | panicking | Brazilian University |
| 16:52.24 | panicking | :) |
| 16:52.34 | panicking | I read somenthing about this oppurtunites |
| 16:52.39 | panicking | is it right? |
| 16:53.13 | PaulFertser | panicking: hey :) |
| 16:53.24 | panicking | Sorry for the delay |
| 16:53.27 | panicking | but I'm working |
| 16:53.30 | panicking | on a camera sensor |
| 16:53.38 | panicking | + android bug request |
| 16:53.49 | panicking | I don't have a big community |
| 16:53.50 | panicking | :D |
| 16:53.56 | PaulFertser | panicking: were you able to reproduce wlan problems with only standard tools? In fact i'd prefer you don't ;) |
| 16:54.19 | panicking | If the kernel go in panic is not a problem of a tool |
| 16:54.24 | PaulFertser | s/don't/were not/ |
| 16:54.39 | PaulFertser | panicking: i suspect that you touch rfkill |
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| 16:55.12 | CooL_SPoT | Hi everyone |
| 16:55.17 | PaulFertser | panicking: also please keep in mind that our goal is not to make wifi driver work proper but to make it somehow work with standard tools without too much problems. |
| 16:55.44 | CooL_SPoT | whey there isn't one perfect distro for openmoko? |
| 16:56.06 | panicking | I use android as my daily phone now |
| 16:56.17 | CooL_SPoT | om2008.12 is pretty good, but it drinks the battery |
| 16:56.33 | CooL_SPoT | android is pretty good |
| 16:56.42 | CooL_SPoT | but we had a fight and he won |
| 16:56.46 | panicking | I change |
| 16:56.51 | panicking | the acceleratation |
| 16:56.55 | panicking | code in android version |
| 16:56.58 | CooL_SPoT | i need a virtual keyboard |
| 16:57.08 | panicking | because there isn't any mode to deactivate them |
| 16:57.11 | CooL_SPoT | a hebrew virtual keyboard |
| 16:57.17 | panicking | without close allthe file descriptor |
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| 16:57.46 | CooL_SPoT | and i think there is a problem with a large sim list in android |
| 16:57.52 | CooL_SPoT | if i remember right |
| 16:57.53 | panicking | PaulFertser, do you know what is the flowcontrolled |
| 16:57.58 | panicking | sysfs file |
| 16:58.04 | panicking | What is the behavior |
| 16:58.04 | panicking | ? |
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| 16:58.23 | CooL_SPoT | plus, android didn't got any updates for a long time |
| 16:58.40 | CooL_SPoT | it's looks like there is no development |
| 16:59.01 | CooL_SPoT | panicking: i remember i was in your site :) |
| 16:59.15 | panicking | Well, I'm alone |
| 16:59.23 | panicking | what type of update do you nedd |
| 16:59.29 | panicking | I fix a lot of things |
| 16:59.31 | panicking | now |
| 16:59.50 | panicking | The problem that openmoko |
| 16:59.55 | panicking | has more hardware revision |
| 17:00.01 | panicking | then android user |
| 17:00.13 | CooL_SPoT | i had a big problem last time i installed android |
| 17:00.21 | CooL_SPoT | but i don't seem to remember what it was |
| 17:00.29 | panicking | I don't have video |
| 17:00.35 | CooL_SPoT | i can install it again :) |
| 17:00.38 | panicking | but I think that android is the more usable version |
| 17:00.42 | panicking | on the openmoko |
| 17:00.49 | panicking | mms (not included) |
| 17:00.56 | panicking | and the user has online support :D |
| 17:01.07 | CooL_SPoT | panicking: what version should i download and install |
| 17:01.09 | CooL_SPoT | ? |
| 17:01.19 | panicking | uImage-v24 |
| 17:01.28 | panicking | and the snapshot-v15 |
| 17:01.34 | CooL_SPoT | ok |
| 17:01.39 | panicking | and take from the mailing list the last freerunner-ril.so |
| 17:01.40 | CooL_SPoT | downloading it right now... |
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| 17:01.47 | panicking | if you have trouble with the audio |
| 17:01.52 | panicking | I can send other ril version |
| 17:01.54 | panicking | without |
| 17:01.58 | DocScrutinizer-8 | panicking: please elaborate on problems caused by GTA02-hw-revisions. I don't know of many |
| 17:02.01 | panicking | the calypso audio adjustment |
| 17:02.07 | CooL_SPoT | you should upload it to your site |
| 17:02.24 | panicking | DocScrutinizer-8, for now audio problem |
| 17:02.29 | CooL_SPoT | freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v15.jffs2 ? |
| 17:02.32 | panicking | yes |
| 17:02.36 | CooL_SPoT | :) |
| 17:02.38 | CooL_SPoT | ok |
| 17:02.43 | panicking | You must use two partition |
| 17:02.57 | CooL_SPoT | i will flash it |
| 17:03.12 | DocScrutinizer-8 | audio problem is a mere question of adjusting mic sensitivity and earpiece level |
| 17:04.05 | CooL_SPoT | i want to do it like this: |
| 17:04.23 | CooL_SPoT | dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D free...jffs2 |
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| 17:04.33 | PaulFertser | panicking: yes, i do |
| 17:04.36 | CooL_SPoT | dfu-util -a kernel uImage... |
| 17:04.48 | CooL_SPoT | * dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage.... |
| 17:05.12 | PaulFertser | panicking: also i do know about audio problem. The same As DocScrutinizer-8 says. |
| 17:05.23 | PaulFertser | panicking: you shouldn't touch calypso volume control for that. |
| 17:05.39 | panicking | PaulFertser, |
| 17:05.48 | panicking | I have user that does't heard |
| 17:05.51 | panicking | anything |
| 17:05.56 | panicking | increase alsa audio |
| 17:06.06 | panicking | so I increase the audio |
| 17:06.09 | panicking | from calypso |
| 17:06.18 | panicking | There is a patch in the fso too |
| 17:06.21 | panicking | ? |
| 17:06.22 | PaulFertser | panicking: (flowcontrolled sysfs node) used to do proper logic on suspend/resume. |
| 17:06.34 | panicking | Can you exaplain a little bit |
| 17:06.40 | panicking | It's import for me |
| 17:06.41 | panicking | ? |
| 17:06.41 | PaulFertser | panicking: +CLVL=255 this should be used always for all gta02 hardware revisions. |
| 17:06.44 | PaulFertser | panicking: sure |
| 17:07.08 | panicking | There is a boy with this settings but has trouble with it |
| 17:07.15 | PaulFertser | panicking: the logic is following: your ril should deactivate all unnecessary (==not valid resume reason) unsolicited "replies" first. |
| 17:07.16 | panicking | A5 revision |
| 17:07.26 | panicking | ok |
| 17:07.29 | PaulFertser | panicking: then "echo 1 > flowcontrolled" |
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| 17:07.34 | PaulFertser | panicking: then suspend the device. |
| 17:07.35 | Chocky | moose |
| 17:07.55 | PaulFertser | panicking: upon resuming you "echo 0 > flowcontrolled" and get all the messages calypso has for you. |
| 17:07.56 | panicking | thanks |
| 17:08.05 | panicking | perfect |
| 17:08.17 | panicking | so the spike |
| 17:08.18 | PaulFertser | panicking: only this way you can ensure you don't loose important bytes from it. I can find more elaborate description if you want. |
| 17:08.20 | panicking | that I have sometime |
| 17:08.24 | panicking | is calypso |
| 17:08.36 | panicking | spike |
| 17:08.44 | panicking | I observed |
| 17:08.54 | panicking | that sometime I have resume of the device |
| 17:08.57 | panicking | without |
| 17:09.01 | panicking | reason |
| 17:09.13 | panicking | Can be flowcontrolled problem |
| 17:09.13 | panicking | ? |
| 17:09.22 | PaulFertser | panicking: (audio) we never received any decent report from any user that +CLVL=255 doesn't work properly for him after adjusting alsa levels. |
| 17:09.24 | DocScrutinizer-8 | unsol msg |
| 17:09.36 | panicking | ok |
| 17:09.52 | panicking | Can give again the pointer to the unsoli message |
| 17:09.57 | panicking | in the fso |
| 17:10.15 | PaulFertser | panicking: for all the details and discussion about "flowcontrolled" node refer to http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/31 |
| 17:10.22 | PaulFertser | panicking: yes, wait |
| 17:11.30 | CooL_SPoT | panicking: the download from your server is slow, shouldn't you put your files on openmoko servers? |
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| 17:12.06 | panicking | http://git.moko.serdar-dere.net/~michael/ |
| 17:12.17 | panicking | can you download the big file from here |
| 17:12.22 | CooL_SPoT | its okey :) |
| 17:12.26 | CooL_SPoT | already downloaded |
| 17:12.38 | CooL_SPoT | i asked not for me |
| 17:13.15 | CooL_SPoT | ok, now flashing :) |
| 17:13.21 | kardan| | hi, fyi: we designed some posters for promoting op in dzschermony: http://data.brueckenschlaeger.de/openmoko/ - your feedback is appreciated :) |
| 17:13.55 | CooL_SPoT | what do you use to create the svg's? |
| 17:14.26 | kardan| | inkscape |
| 17:14.47 | CooL_SPoT | inkscape rulez :) |
| 17:15.02 | kardan| | of course, its FOSS :) |
| 17:15.29 | PaulFertser | panicking: (unsol disable) for the list look at http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py;h=c86ceee43685acefcbed1e0bec5e1b382f7a51d3;hb=61cbc49eae24c245e07971f8511a4c2fd2208329 search for c = self._commands["suspend"] |
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| 17:18.24 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03rehar * r5624 10/trunk/gta02-core/modules/ (INFO STATUS dfbm-cs320.fpd mkloe): BT module footprint update |
| 17:18.42 | CooL_SPoT | it's wired for me to hear the word "Free", in hebrew you have diffrent word for free as "free software" and another word for free like "free ride" |
| 17:19.19 | panicking | perfect |
| 17:19.31 | Kagee | CooL_SPoT: same in norwegian :) |
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| 17:21.20 | CooL_SPoT | anroid boot is so slowwwwwww |
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| 17:21.32 | panicking | The first time |
| 17:21.36 | panicking | is slow the |
| 17:21.39 | panicking | second time too |
| 17:21.43 | panicking | but it's better |
| 17:21.52 | panicking | PaulFertser, koolu drop the android project |
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| 17:21.57 | CooL_SPoT | ok, its not important |
| 17:22.13 | CooL_SPoT | yeah, the project at koolu didn't update for ages |
| 17:22.29 | CooL_SPoT | openmoko wiki should remove it from that page |
| 17:23.15 | CooL_SPoT | still loading :| |
| 17:23.25 | DocScrutinizer-8 | wiki will remove nothing. Users have to do that :-P |
| 17:23.33 | panicking | :) |
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| 17:25.19 | CooL_SPoT | panicking: i think i got an error |
| 17:26.36 | CooL_SPoT | -- kobject_add_internal fail for pysmap-flash.0 -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory. Count not initialize FIQ for GTA02 |
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| 17:31.41 | CooL_SPoT | oops |
| 17:31.47 | CooL_SPoT | the message is before the boot |
| 17:32.04 | CooL_SPoT | i'm trying to boot again, didn't boot last time |
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| 17:34.02 | CooL_SPoT | doesn't boot :( |
| 17:34.22 | CooL_SPoT | i flashed freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v15.jffs2 AND uImage-v15-ex1.bin |
| 17:34.37 | Chocky | that's a bit old, isn't it? |
| 17:34.49 | CooL_SPoT | thats what panicking told me i should flash |
| 17:35.24 | CooL_SPoT | it is he's images, i think he knows what he tell me |
| 17:35.28 | Chocky | :o |
| 17:35.49 | Chocky | well, I don't doubt his opinion, but I'm wondering why he's suggesting that one |
| 17:35.57 | panicking | uImage-v24 |
| 17:36.10 | panicking | that one is not ok |
| 17:36.12 | panicking | :) |
| 17:36.13 | panicking | sorry |
| 17:36.48 | Chocky | hence my question :p |
| 17:37.21 | CooL_SPoT | panicking: why do i use old cupcake snapshot? |
| 17:37.33 | CooL_SPoT | ah sorry |
| 17:37.36 | CooL_SPoT | its not old |
| 17:37.38 | CooL_SPoT | :) |
| 17:37.41 | panicking | yes |
| 17:37.43 | panicking | it's new |
| 17:37.56 | PaulFertser | panicking: (koolu) well, they were not really good members of the community anyway so to me it's irrelevant ;) |
| 17:38.22 | Chocky | paulproteus: that doesn't surprise me, but why do you say that? |
| 17:38.24 | Chocky | gah |
| 17:38.28 | Chocky | PaulFerster |
| 17:38.35 | CooL_SPoT | now lets wait again for android to load |
| 17:38.36 | Chocky | PaulFertser, too |
| 17:39.20 | PaulFertser | Chocky: what did koolu guys do for others? Only usb networking with windows and it wasn't their fix even, they probably just hired some dev. |
| 17:39.39 | CooL_SPoT | i should see anything on screen while it boots |
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| 17:39.47 | CooL_SPoT | ? |
| 17:40.20 | Chocky | put a shiny wrapper around it - which personally makes me a bit dubios. but I don't know enough details; haven't followd Android dev for some months |
| 17:40.24 | PaulFertser | Chocky: and they forked Qi making it incompatible with other versions without any warning, this too doesn't get them points. |
| 17:40.49 | CooL_SPoT | panicking: it does not work :'-( |
| 17:40.53 | CooL_SPoT | I WANT ANDORID |
| 17:40.58 | CooL_SPoT | *ANDROID |
| 17:41.05 | Chocky | I can has koolu android? |
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| 17:41.26 | CooL_SPoT | panicking sayed that koolu's android is outdated |
| 17:41.35 | Chocky | I'm sure it is |
| 17:41.39 | panicking | Do you follow the instruction |
| 17:41.39 | panicking | ? |
| 17:41.44 | Chocky | Koolu's instructions are pretty damn poor, when I tried them. |
| 17:41.45 | panicking | from the openmoko website |
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| 17:41.50 | CooL_SPoT | amm |
| 17:41.52 | CooL_SPoT | nope |
| 17:41.55 | CooL_SPoT | i will check it out |
| 17:41.56 | panicking | I give the link |
| 17:41.57 | panicking | wait |
| 17:42.20 | DocScrutinizer-8 | I have bake you cookie, but I eated it |
| 17:42.20 | Chocky | my main problem with Android is that unless you modify a bunch of stuff, it needs to use internal flash _and_ SD card. |
| 17:42.30 | panicking | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner |
| 17:42.32 | panicking | method 2 |
| 17:42.34 | panicking | other images |
| 17:42.35 | panicking | :) |
| 17:42.47 | panicking | There is a script |
| 17:42.52 | panicking | that move all on the flash |
| 17:43.05 | Chocky | I'm sure. but it's all a bit tedious. But again, I'm not 100% up to date on this. |
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| 17:45.52 | CooL_SPoT | what script? |
| 17:46.21 | CooL_SPoT | i installed it on the internal flash |
| 17:46.29 | panicking | http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/script/ |
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| 17:50.44 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/26/26405/26405_2.jpg |
| 17:50.57 | UndrWater | damn...he left |
| 17:51.06 | CooL_SPoT | arggggg |
| 17:51.25 | UndrWater | DocScrutinizer: cute |
| 17:51.40 | UndrWater | has anyone here successfully got android running solely on an SD cadr? |
| 17:51.43 | UndrWater | *card |
| 17:53.11 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/26/26405/26405_3.jpg |
| 17:55.09 | DocScrutinizer | He maded the skiez and da earths, but he did not eated it |
| 17:56.17 | Kagee | Android requires an sd card on both the htc hero and magick, so i guess it's best to rund it w. a sd card :-S |
| 17:57.07 | Chocky | hrm. |
| 17:57.20 | Chocky | yes, it just makes it harder to have other distros on your FR |
| 17:59.18 | Chocky | oh no. The Apple fanboi event today. |
| 17:59.49 | Chocky | ringtones for $1.29! |
| 18:00.16 | CooL_SPoT | android does not work :\ |
| 18:00.17 | CooL_SPoT | arg |
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| 18:00.35 | CooL_SPoT | "cannot find /system/mountd' |
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| 18:09.36 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r5185320016ce 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device: document implemented orientation strings for org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.GetOrientation() |
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| 18:40.13 | kardan| | is there any feedback on the posters I sent above? we would like to setup a crabgrass community site to promote the om project a bit more |
| 18:40.45 | kardan| | preferable at community.openmoko.org |
| 18:40.58 | kardan| | or sth like that :) |
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| 18:41.33 | Chocky | those posters are (a) In German, and (b) a mess in Firefox 3.5, so who knows. |
| 18:41.42 | Chocky | besides, OM already has a site. why another/ |
| 18:45.27 | kardan| | Chocky: those posters a just a first draft, dont take them as finished. the reason I am here, is to get a first feedbacks if the idea kicks or not |
| 18:45.53 | kardan| | OM has a wiki and a commercial frontpage, but no community portal I think |
| 18:46.16 | kardan| | do you know crabgrass? maybe its worth a try on we.riseup.net |
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| 18:47.05 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc129c5da51ba 10/fsodeviced/src/lib/resource.vala: fsodeviced: resource: enable unconditionally, if we can't communicate with fsousaged |
| 18:48.17 | kardan| | if we make it, to develop an installer to easily setup oms to endusers as fully functional mobiles and navigation devices (and more!) there is a good chance to rock the show on the mobile market the next half year |
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| 18:48.27 | Chocky | uh huh |
| 18:48.45 | Chocky | invokes SpeedEvil |
| 18:48.59 | ShellEvil | stabs Chocky. |
| 18:49.12 | SpeedEvil | stabs Chocky. |
| 18:49.17 | Chocky | enjoys. more! |
| 18:50.14 | SpeedEvil | I have no idea who's manageing the openmoko.com website |
| 18:50.23 | Chocky | haha |
| 18:51.06 | Chocky | "Blowout Sale". great. |
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| 18:54.21 | kardan| | its sean@openmoko.com sitting in taiwan |
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| 18:55.44 | DocScrutinizer-8 | that's probably correct to the last letter |
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| 18:56.15 | kardan| | for openmoko.org as well |
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| 18:59.56 | Defiant | wtf. Something just crashed the partition table of my SD card |
| 19:00.47 | Chocky | because the partition table is a program that might segfault |
| 19:00.53 | Chocky | :o |
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| 19:11.47 | Defiant | hmm, I guess my SD is totaly fucked |
| 19:12.13 | CooL_SPoT | I can't install android |
| 19:12.16 | CooL_SPoT | it does not work |
| 19:12.21 | CooL_SPoT | :\ |
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| 20:08.54 | slaxxer | defiant put it in a camera an format that card |
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| 20:18.10 | Defiant | slaxxer: you think it will work after this again? |
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| 20:46.54 | Weiss | interesting: my mail client managed to send two versions of my latest message to OM-Community.. |
| 20:49.39 | Chocky | maybe you must be your stuck keyboard - you typed two '.'s also |
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| 20:50.12 | Weiss | :) |
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| 23:45.13 | jhass840 | Hi, just a quick question about the SHR User Manual. The manual says that the 20090808-om-gta02 image doesn't has opkg-cl instead of opkg and says that performing opkg update and opkg upgrade will fix it. Won't upgrading break SHR? |
| 23:45.41 | jhass840 | darn, it has opkg-cl instead of opkg. Sorry for the typos |
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| 23:46.25 | max_posedon | shr-U: nobody never knows, will upgrade broke smth or not |
| 23:46.39 | max_posedon | usually it doesn't, but sometimes... |
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| 23:48.32 | jhass840 | Well actually, I know for a fact that it does because I just did it. I was trying to imply that perhaps the manual should say that it has opkg-cl and just leave it at that |
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