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| 07:15.26 | Undrwater | after a change in gsmhandset.state, what's needs to be restarted to test it? just frameworkd? |
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| 08:07.07 | Defiant- | unknown_lamer: try alsactrl |
| 08:07.22 | Defiant- | alsactl -f gsmhandset-state restore iirc |
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| 08:13.21 | pierreN | hi |
| 08:14.24 | pierreN | http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ doesn't show shr non lite unstable image ; where to find it please ? :) |
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| 08:30.38 | ndnihil | build.shr-project.org |
| 08:31.29 | pierreN | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ ? no can't find a non-lite image (first website is a mirror...) |
| 08:32.08 | ndnihil | well that's a bit odd |
| 08:32.16 | ndnihil | if its anywhere, it should be there |
| 08:33.01 | ndnihil | use the lite image and install the other crap you want separately I guess |
| 08:34.29 | pierreN | yes that's what i'm doing :s |
| 08:34.44 | pierreN | but i wonder why the non lite image disappeared... |
| 08:34.53 | ndnihil | couldn't tell you |
| 08:35.03 | ndnihil | I'm still using an image nearly 2 months old |
| 08:35.09 | ndnihil | too afraid updating will break it |
| 08:35.22 | ndnihil | and I've got a bunch of things compiled for/on it |
| 08:35.34 | ndnihil | though I guess I could just copy the source trees over and make install again |
| 08:35.37 | AlexC | Where are the network config files on qtopia? |
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| 08:36.09 | pierreN | ok :) |
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| 09:59.14 | Graf_Ithaka | hi there :) |
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| 10:12.47 | Graf_Ithaka | which calendar application are you using? I primarily need one which can import from ical, should be finger-friendly too.. switching between week/day would be appreciated too.. I've seen pimlico and gpe-calendar on the wiki, are the others? |
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| 10:33.14 | Graf_Ithaka | Has someone built claws-mail 3.7.2 so far? I can only find 3.6.1 in the repos |
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| 10:44.56 | doc|home | Graf_Ithaka: syncml might help |
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| 11:38.56 | CosmicDuck | All: Is a webdav calendar access awailable? |
| 11:39.22 | CosmicDuck | All is it possible to use an online ldap connection to an phonebook possible? |
| 11:40.09 | CosmicDuck | All: If I store a new entry in the phonebook: Where it is stored? SIM, cvs, Sql? |
| 11:50.35 | badcloud_ | depends on the distro, I suppose |
| 11:50.55 | badcloud_ | but here's some quasi-relevant reading, CosmicDuck http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PIM_Storage |
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| 12:30.24 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5570 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (wlan-conn.sch wlan.sch): Rename old WLAN connector |
| 12:31.44 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5571 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (components/gta02_power.lib wlan.sch): New WLAN on-board |
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| 12:34.40 | spdr | hey, anyone tried out pjsua on the FR? |
| 12:34.50 | spdr | pjsua/pjsip |
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| 12:41.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | has anyone here got a known working tangogps+google maps setup? |
| 12:41.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | OSM etc work, but all the guides related to google maps are failing me |
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| 12:45.43 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5572 10/trunk/gta02-core/wlan.sch: Fix wlan |
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| 12:46.39 | spdr | pjsua on openmoko FR anyone ?? |
| 12:47.58 | Graf_Ithaka | all: is there a good state-file around? I reinstalled and forgot to save mine :/ |
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| 13:10.48 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5573 10/trunk/gta02-core/docs/ecn/ (STATUS ecn0035.txt): Add new WLAN RF ECN |
| 13:11.24 | Daramarak | I still got problems with my sound. Got only sound on one ear when I use a headset connected to the FR. I have checked the alsamixer, but I have a hard time understanding the settings. |
| 13:13.41 | lindi- | Daramarak: what headset? |
| 13:14.46 | Daramarak | lindi-: I have connected a portapro headset to my FR via an adapter. |
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| 13:15.40 | lindi- | Daramarak: probably the adapter is just wrong. |
| 13:16.40 | Daramarak | lindi-: A normal stereo mini-jack to micro-jack won't work? |
| 13:16.45 | lindi- | Daramarak: no |
| 13:16.53 | Graf_Ithaka | I'm just talking about handset |
| 13:17.01 | lindi- | Daramarak: the pinout is hidden in the wiki |
| 13:18.07 | Daramarak | lindi-: Great, I was afraid I had to ship it back to Germany for repairs. |
| 13:23.08 | Daramarak | Why couldn't it support a normal mini jack. That would be so much easier. |
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| 13:27.03 | lindi- | Daramarak: it has four contacts |
| 13:27.41 | Daramarak | lindi-: I know... found the schematics.. |
| 13:29.01 | lindi- | Daramarak: 3.5mm would have been easier indeed |
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| 14:06.34 | Graf_Ithaka | when I'm using xrandr so rotate the screen and then go back to normal with xrandr -o 0 there's a persistent white space (approx 1/3 of the screen) on the bottom and I need to restart X in order the get rid of it.. any ideas? |
| 14:08.33 | lindi- | Graf_Ithaka: what X server? |
| 14:08.50 | Graf_Ithaka | Xglamo |
| 14:09.01 | Ke | kdrive or X.org |
| 14:09.37 | lindi- | Graf_Ithaka: i don't think that is developed too much |
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| 14:12.14 | Graf_Ithaka | ah actually its kdrive as I saw atm |
| 14:12.51 | Graf_Ithaka | http://pastebin.com/m267c9260 |
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| 14:28.22 | Graf_Ithaka | I've found a workaround.. just sleep 1 sec after closing a program, then there's no problem.. dont ask me why but it works |
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| 15:15.38 | Graf_Ithaka | does anyone know a possibility to send a "right"-click to X? |
| 15:16.19 | Ke | yes |
| 15:16.42 | Graf_Ithaka | would you share it with me? |
| 15:16.45 | Ke | <merge key="input.x11_options.EmulateRightButton" type="string">1</merge> |
| 15:17.22 | Wonka | how does that work? |
| 15:17.23 | Ke | in tslib configuration |
| 15:17.42 | Ke | I think it was holding the button is right click |
| 15:18.06 | Wonka | "button"? like, stylus on ts? |
| 15:18.36 | naeg | the usb port is typ mini 5pole, right? |
| 15:18.46 | naeg | the usb port of the freerunner* |
| 15:19.05 | Chocky | on the wiki |
| 15:19.06 | Ke | Wonka: slt |
| 15:19.11 | Ke | never tested |
| 15:19.31 | Wonka | naeg: yes. usb mini b, afaik. |
| 15:20.10 | naeg | thanks Wonka would be shitty if i order the wrong |
| 15:20.19 | Chocky | it's all on the wiki |
| 15:20.40 | Wonka | naeg: you need to order a cable? i got sooo many... from cameras, external drives, ... |
| 15:23.29 | naeg | i have many too, but no typ mini-b 5 pole...i dont know if the cable is destroyed but it gets detected as a usb1 device |
| 15:23.50 | lindi- | naeg: instead of usb0? |
| 15:23.53 | Wonka | that's... slow. |
| 15:24.09 | Wonka | lindi-: instead of a device capable of 480mbps, i presume |
| 15:24.09 | Chocky | er |
| 15:24.10 | Chocky | no |
| 15:24.15 | naeg | lindi-: no, as uhci_hcd |
| 15:24.23 | naeg | usb v 1.0 |
| 15:24.29 | lindi- | naeg: but neo does not do usb 2.0 |
| 15:24.36 | Chocky | "usb0/1" is the name of the network device, if that's what you're seeing in dmesg |
| 15:24.55 | Wonka | should do usb1.1, though |
| 15:24.58 | Wonka | 12mbps |
| 15:25.16 | Graf_Ithaka | Ke: sry for being that annoying but where's the tslib conf located? |
| 15:25.16 | Chocky | What's this aversion to your shift key? |
| 15:25.23 | naeg | 1.1 is ehci_hcd? |
| 15:25.27 | Chocky | 12mbps = 12 millibits per second. |
| 15:26.15 | Wonka | naeg: no. 2.0 is ehci. but neo does not do 2.0 |
| 15:26.18 | Ke | Graf_Ithaka: http://gentoo.mindzoo.de/index.cgi/wiki/X either xorg.conf or appropriate hal fdi file |
| 15:26.21 | naeg | after plugging in the cable connected to the neo dmesg detects the neo as uhci_hcd, is this wrong |
| 15:26.28 | naeg | ? |
| 15:26.40 | naeg | someone else dmesg shows ehci_hcd |
| 15:27.15 | Wonka | Chocky: pure lazyness... I'm a units and grammar nazi by myself, most of the time... |
| 15:27.39 | Wonka | naeg: it cannot be detected as uhci_hcd, those are PCI devices. |
| 15:27.40 | Chocky | not to mention laziness :p |
| 15:28.04 | Wonka | naeg: it is connected _via_ an usb bus _via_ an uhci_hcd. |
| 15:28.35 | Wonka | iff i had some linux running now i'd show what dmesg shows here... |
| 15:28.47 | Wonka | but I need to solve some grub2 issue first. |
| 15:28.52 | naeg | ok |
| 15:29.15 | naeg | can someone else plz connect his neo to his pc and give me the output of dmesg|tail |
| 15:29.30 | lindi- | $ ssh dandelion dmesg | nc paste.dyndns.org 1234 |
| 15:29.30 | lindi- | http://paste.debian.net/45297/ |
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| 15:30.14 | naeg | i just get the first two lines: |
| 15:30.23 | naeg | usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5 |
| 15:30.25 | naeg | usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices |
| 15:30.40 | naeg | but nothing with eth1 or something, so i can't ssh :( |
| 15:31.00 | naeg | could this be the cable or the port of the neo? |
| 15:31.36 | lindi- | naeg: well test with cdc first |
| 15:32.08 | naeg | cdc? |
| 15:33.14 | lindi- | naeg: communications device class |
| 15:33.34 | lindi- | naeg: u-boot in NOR flash for example speaks this. good test case |
| 15:34.31 | Graf_Ithaka | Ke: I'll give hal a shot, theres no xorg.conf on my neo .. |
| 15:36.26 | naeg | lindi-: i use qi...but i will try to backup with neotool, to see if this gives me an error |
| 15:38.17 | naeg | ok this doesn't work |
| 15:38.51 | naeg | lindi-: i don't use uboot, can i test it somehow else? |
| 15:39.42 | lindi- | naeg: your NOR still has u-boot |
| 15:39.56 | naeg | nor is holding aux and power? |
| 15:40.16 | lindi- | i'm sure you can read it from the wiki :) |
| 15:40.29 | naeg | but what then? |
| 15:40.38 | lindi- | naeg: lsusb -vv on PC |
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| 15:41.59 | naeg | lindi-: i guess you wanted this: http://pastebin.com/m62c385c6 |
| 15:42.42 | lindi- | naeg: looks pretty ok, do you have /dev/ttyACM*? |
| 15:42.53 | lindi- | or was it ttyUSB*, can't remember |
| 15:43.46 | naeg | on host? i don't have ttyUSB nor ttyACM |
| 15:44.10 | naeg | i have /dev/tty%* |
| 15:44.38 | naeg | and ttyS*% where * is 0-3 |
| 15:45.30 | lindi- | naeg: is usbserial module loaded? (lsmod) |
| 15:46.18 | naeg | scsi_mod usbcore usb_storage |
| 15:46.27 | Graf_Ithaka | Ke: I dont have a xorg.conf to uncomment the inputsection device.. and simplay adding the stuff tu the fdi-files wont do the job.. any ideas? |
| 15:46.41 | lindi- | naeg: better load usbserial and see logs? |
| 15:47.06 | Ke | Graf_Ithaka: input files in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ ? |
| 15:47.20 | Ke | Graf_Ithaka: also restart hal/xorg |
| 15:47.24 | naeg | lindi-: no errors |
| 15:47.44 | lindi- | naeg: are you using udev? |
| 15:48.08 | naeg | lindi-: yes |
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| 15:54.08 | naeg | lindi-: sry my wifi driver is unstable. yes i use udev |
| 15:55.11 | Graf_Ithaka | Ke: I tried a 2nd time.. no right-button-emulation.. thats my policy-file: http://pastebin.com/m50bf68ad I added up the section touchpad, the others I left untouched |
| 15:55.49 | Ke | sorry can't help you then |
| 15:56.01 | lindi- | Graf_Ithaka: are you even using hal? |
| 15:56.05 | Ke | I would check Xorg.0.log |
| 15:56.41 | lindi- | naeg: well hmm, here it creates a tty* device when i boot to u-boot. maybe i also choose "console to serial" option |
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| 15:57.35 | naeg | ah, when uboot. ok i have a tyyACM0 |
| 15:57.44 | Graf_Ithaka | lindi-: I hope so, hal's running by default so I think its used |
| 16:01.44 | naeg | lindi-: is the cable ok then? as you said lsusb looks good |
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| 16:36.06 | Laibsch | How do I know the OM Neo is actually charging? I have connected it to my USB port on the laptop and increased curlim to 300. I also tried connecting it to an external USB charger. No indication the charge is actually happening. |
| 16:36.21 | Laibsch | In fact, when I pull the battery out, the Neo goes dead. |
| 16:37.08 | naeg | Laibsch: read /sys/.../capacity, wait and read again |
| 16:37.22 | naeg | find /sys -name "capacity" |
| 16:37.24 | Laibsch | on the NEO? |
| 16:37.27 | naeg | yes |
| 16:37.29 | Laibsch | thanks |
| 16:37.59 | naeg | but normaly your WM shows it somewhere |
| 16:38.05 | naeg | or any other app |
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| 16:47.48 | Laibsch | naeg: I get "cat: read error: Timer expired" |
| 16:47.57 | Laibsch | This is not the original battery |
| 16:48.08 | Laibsch | I'm trying to charge this one first and the original |
| 16:48.20 | Laibsch | But when I swap, the Neo goes off |
| 16:48.27 | Laibsch | The original is once again completely empty |
| 16:48.45 | Laibsch | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_(GTA02)_Battery was no help so far |
| 16:49.12 | naeg | i am sorrx Laibsch i can't help you then |
| 16:49.15 | naeg | sorry* |
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| 17:09.22 | PBeck | hi |
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| 17:19.51 | Ke | I know most of bought freerunner just to see the leet u-boot splash image, but I would like to know is there a simplish way to see the boot menu instead of the splash image |
| 17:20.16 | Ke | *most of you |
| 17:20.46 | Ke | seemingly it's nothing in the env |
| 17:20.53 | lindi- | Ke: are you sure? |
| 17:21.37 | Ke | well can't be totally sure, but APz's env seems quite similar to mine |
| 17:21.56 | lindi- | Ke: see 5.14.3 of u-boot manual |
| 17:22.06 | lindi- | Ke: "U-Boot will test if the environment variable "splashimage" is defined" |
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| 17:23.02 | Ke | APz has splashimage too |
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| 17:24.30 | Ke | lindi-: ok there is paradox in reality, but i will test |
| 17:27.21 | naeg | lindi-: i need to go now, i hope that i am allowed to ping you tomorrow again because of my problem :) |
| 17:28.01 | Ke | ok I should have complied with #openmoko-fi(19:58:38) in the first place |
| 17:28.31 | WhiteField | Whats the main difference between A6 and A7 ..except the GSM bug fix |
| 17:29.08 | naeg | cu |
| 17:29.18 | WhiteField | i searched on google ..but didn't find anything else |
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| 17:46.42 | vortex | Does anyone know where the Angstrom distribution keeps the address book ? |
| 17:47.10 | vortex | wants to back it up before upgrading to a newer version ... |
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| 17:48.15 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5574 10/trunk/gta02-core/wlan.sch: Fix misc issues with wlan |
| 17:48.20 | vortex | I've rummaged extensively on disk; find -name addressbook only found me config files, not data. |
| 17:49.08 | vortex | I even resorted to find | xargs grep to search the entire disk for a name that should be in the address-book ... if it's not in a compressed/binary format |
| 17:50.21 | vortex | My current nearest approximation to a clue is: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 44032 Jun 17 10:41 /media/card/qtopia_db.sqlite |
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| 17:55.05 | ndnihil | have you checked the contents of your sim? |
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| 17:59.52 | vortex | How do I check the contents of my sim ? |
| 18:00.33 | vortex | I have a root login via ssh; df reports /media/card/ as a mount-point; is that the SIM ? |
| 18:01.02 | ndnihil | by way of dbus is your most likely path |
| 18:01.10 | ndnihil | mdbus -s |
| 18:01.31 | vortex | ~# type mdbus |
| 18:01.32 | vortex | mdbus: not found |
| 18:01.46 | vortex | knows nothing about dbus |
| 18:01.48 | ndnihil | what dist? |
| 18:01.59 | vortex | Angstrom, according to /etc/issue |
| 18:02.29 | vortex | Openmoko P1-Snapshot-20080807 |
| 18:02.59 | vortex | I want to upgrade to something more recent (and less Qtopia), but don't want to lose my address-book. |
| 18:02.59 | ndnihil | havent tried that one, kinda surprised it doesnt include mdbus though |
| 18:03.12 | ndnihil | opkg install mdbus? |
| 18:03.52 | ndnihil | contacts can be stored in two places |
| 18:03.56 | ndnihil | sim, and file/disk |
| 18:03.59 | vortex | hmm ... that involves persuading the device to be able to see the outside world ? |
| 18:04.01 | ndnihil | file/disk/db |
| 18:04.31 | vortex | ~# opkg install mdbus |
| 18:04.32 | vortex | An error ocurred, return value: 2. |
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| 18:05.22 | vortex | assumed file on disk, since flashing Angstrom onto the device zorched the prior address-book ... |
| 18:05.58 | ndnihil | why not just copy it off the device if its in file |
| 18:05.59 | ndnihil | ? |
| 18:06.29 | vortex | Because I don't know *which* file it is ! |
| 18:06.37 | vortex | That's what I'm trying to discover ... |
| 18:06.44 | ndnihil | open the address book app and do an lsof |
| 18:06.58 | vortex | ooh - nice suggestion :-) |
| 18:07.22 | vortex | gah - but no lsof installed :-( |
| 18:07.35 | SpeedEvil | ps |
| 18:07.38 | SpeedEvil | work out which |
| 18:07.45 | SpeedEvil | ls -l /proc/foo/fd/* |
| 18:09.14 | vortex | The only diff between a ps before and after opening the address book was the pid of ps itself :-( |
| 18:09.34 | ndnihil | that's the idea |
| 18:09.36 | SpeedEvil | yeah - ypoiu'll need to do ps -a |
| 18:09.36 | vortex | I suspect Qtopia is one big process that opens sub-applications within the same process. |
| 18:09.39 | SpeedEvil | or something |
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| 18:10.54 | vortex | hmm ... no, ps -a also only showed the ps process itself changing. |
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| 18:13.09 | vortex | ps -fel gets a bigger diff, at least ... |
| 18:13.30 | ndnihil | ps itself isnt going to show you the open file |
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| 18:13.38 | ndnihil | read the rest of what SpeedEvil told you to do |
| 18:16.21 | vortex | Yup, but I had to find a pid, first - which I think I now have, from -fel |
| 18:16.47 | ndnihil | pid shows up in most any permutation of ps args |
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| 18:18.14 | vortex | qtopia_db.sqlite |
| 18:19.04 | vortex | That sounds suspiciously like I'm going to need sqlite to get my address-book out of it; but at least I now have clear evidence it's the right place to look - thanks for suggestions, variously. |
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| 18:27.34 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: hi :D Have you read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" Is it a popular novel? |
| 18:28.21 | amarsh04 | well, it was the basis of the movie "Blade Runner" - I haven't read it but read a few other philip k dick novels |
| 18:28.30 | PaulFertser | amarsh04: were they good? |
| 18:29.12 | amarsh04 | I remember one called "dr futurity" - he wrote well and put out "different" hypotheticals |
| 18:29.35 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: yes - a very long time ago. |
| 18:29.47 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: I enjoy Dick. |
| 18:29.49 | amarsh04 | it might be worth checking online for hugo and nebula award winners |
| 18:30.08 | SpeedEvil | tries to remember the name of the russian SF writer. |
| 18:30.26 | SpeedEvil | Oh - I was thinking of Stanislaw Lem |
| 18:30.30 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: ok, so i'll continue with Dick's novels. I enjoyed "DADoES" |
| 18:30.36 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: hehe, he's polish :) |
| 18:30.45 | amarsh04 | the recent movie wall-e reminded me of Brian Aldiss' "Non stop" |
| 18:32.16 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: yes. |
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| 18:34.00 | SpeedEvil | finds that Harlan Ellison isn't dead. |
| 18:34.30 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: of all SF authors i like Ray Bradbury the most. Probably because he's never written anything pure SF, his novels are first of all humanistic. |
| 18:34.58 | PaulFertser | amarsh04: thank you for the suggestion too |
| 18:35.16 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: try Harlan Ellison - 'I have no mouth, and I must scream'. |
| 18:35.37 | SpeedEvil | (It is - as you might guess by the title - not a happy story) |
| 18:35.50 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: ok, great thanks. |
| 18:36.01 | PaulFertser | dreams of integrating some decent dictionary in FBReader |
| 18:37.04 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: btw, IRC connection tracking in Linux does wonders -- no need to alter iptables config to use DCC :) |
| 18:37.20 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 18:39.09 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: ever heard of ``Strugatskie brothers''? |
| 18:39.32 | SpeedEvil | _vaguely_ |
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| 18:40.03 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: they're the most famous russian SF authors i guess |
| 18:40.17 | PaulFertser | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkady_and_Boris_Strugatsky |
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| 18:40.49 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: I don't recall reading anything by them. |
| 18:41.22 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: seem interesting. Though I don't know about quality of translation. |
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| 18:42.23 | SpeedEvil | Actually - I think I may have read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_Picnic |
| 18:42.30 | SpeedEvil | I need a db of my books. |
| 18:42.37 | SpeedEvil | (>3000 books in attic) |
| 18:42.44 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: neither me. Also some parts are highly soviet-specific, supposed to be very familiar to any soviet scientist or engineer. |
| 18:43.28 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: do you read fiction in english? |
| 18:43.49 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: i've read Do Androids... in english. |
| 18:43.57 | SpeedEvil | Or either russian or english as you find them. |
| 18:44.19 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: also i've read some Asimov's book but i don't remember which in english. |
| 18:45.24 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: the problem is that i don't know some words (not that many considering typical SF) and i tend to "guess" the meaning because i'm too lazy to lookup them in the dictionary. ;) |
| 18:46.58 | Q-Master | Roadside Picnic roxx. |
| 18:46.58 | SpeedEvil | Asimov tends to be very similar across all his books. |
| 18:47.38 | vortex | AA also wrote some fascinating books on science for the layman. |
| 18:47.49 | SpeedEvil | My local SF writer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_M_Banks |
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| 18:49.50 | PaulFertser | vortex: i've read his book about the old testament from scientific POV (iirc) |
| 18:51.46 | SpeedEvil | Who varies from the hardest SF to a a cult living in present day scotland. |
| 18:52.25 | vortex | I thought IMB distinguished his SF and other work by whether or not he includes the M initial in the middle ... |
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| 18:55.06 | SpeedEvil | vortex: yes |
| 18:55.19 | SpeedEvil | vortex: it is however the same person :) |
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| 20:17.03 | CosmicDuck | badclud_: Thank you. |
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| 23:23.49 | Graf_Ithaka | is there already a lisp port for armv4t? I'd like to run maxima on the Neo :) |
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| 23:32.19 | DocScrutinizer | (roadsie_picnic) "Stalker" based on that book |
| 23:32.38 | DocScrutinizer | Takovsky |
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