| 00:01.28 | Daramarak | No one got a clue why I get /media/card and /home/root mounted as a read-only file system on om2009 testing? |
| 00:02.03 | Daramarak | I have tried to google to see if anyone else got the same problems. But I cannot seem to find any. |
| 00:02.24 | Daramarak | I haven't done anything to my image except flashing it |
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| 00:17.23 | Daramarak | I seemed to be able to fix it by manually editing the fstab. |
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| 01:45.51 | chocotuar__ | what do I do when tar says I can't mknod file when I try to extract it to the sd card? I'm extracting as root straight from the tar.gz to the sd card |
| 01:48.04 | SpeedEvil | onto what format filesystm |
| 01:48.20 | chocotuar__ | ext3 |
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| 02:39.54 | drascus321 | DocScrutinizer: I just wanted to say thanks for answering all those questions the other day my freerunner is on the way and I can't wait |
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| 06:38.39 | Kero | So I do have plenty of battery after one night in suspend... but also WSOD? nasty. |
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| 06:47.51 | PaulFertser | Kero: WSOD on gta01? |
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| 06:48.22 | PaulFertser | Kero: are you sure that's exactly WSOD? Do you able to connect via ssh? |
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| 07:00.16 | Kero | I'm barely awake; yes, looks like I can ssh. WS then, without OD. |
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| 07:24.45 | methril|work | morning |
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| 07:45.11 | badcloud | 'ning |
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| 08:21.03 | DocScrutinizer | mooooo |
| 08:21.58 | tig| | DocScrutinizer: quack |
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| 08:41.31 | ndnihil | damn anglophiles, no en_US dict for aspell? |
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| 09:15.51 | DocScrutinizer | ndnihil: you ought to consider lerning a correct English instead of looking for dictionary for that bloody slang. True, isn't it? ;-P |
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| 09:17.16 | ndnihil | hah, I speak both brit and american |
| 09:17.23 | ndnihil | and even a bit of aussie/kiwi |
| 09:17.47 | ndnihil | I can even hold a conversation with canadians of the non-french variety :) |
| 09:18.08 | DocScrutinizer | ndnihil: honestly I hardly can believe there's no en_US dict for aspell |
| 09:18.21 | ndnihil | nope, just en-gb |
| 09:18.28 | ndnihil | which is what I'm using for now |
| 09:19.16 | ndnihil | even looked in the angstrom repos |
| 09:19.20 | ndnihil | nada |
| 09:19.30 | ndnihil | oh, tried shr-testing as well |
| 09:19.35 | DocScrutinizer | aah, for OE. |
| 09:19.37 | ndnihil | currently running shr-unstable |
| 09:19.38 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
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| 09:20.10 | DocScrutinizer | get dict from any arbitrary full-sized distro |
| 09:20.28 | ndnihil | yeah that was the next step |
| 09:20.38 | DocScrutinizer | s/for OE/from OE/ |
| 09:20.40 | ndnihil | but I'm doing the same for perls Tk module first :) |
| 09:21.24 | DocScrutinizer | I did serious OE bashing some 20min ago ;-) |
| 09:21.34 | ndnihil | anything fun come of it? |
| 09:21.56 | DocScrutinizer | nnah, alas not really |
| 09:22.28 | DocScrutinizer | just I never seen FR like an embedded device |
| 09:22.40 | tig| | DocScrutinizer : fair point on less in busybox not having find, that one does annoy me |
| 09:22.41 | ndnihil | sadly nor have I |
| 09:22.43 | DocScrutinizer | it's a submin size desktop system |
| 09:22.45 | ndnihil | neovento was kinda close |
| 09:23.20 | ndnihil | if I get ambitious one day, I'm going to strip down a debian install, use the lightest wm I can find |
| 09:23.33 | tig| | I think it still has to be treated as an embedded device though as you do have limited input and very limited resources |
| 09:23.37 | ndnihil | and script up some front end magic |
| 09:23.43 | ndnihil | if this perl-tk thing works |
| 09:24.08 | ndnihil | yeah, it's being treated as a laptop |
| 09:24.14 | ndnihil | rather than a phone |
| 09:24.25 | ndnihil | no offense to raster, but E is just too heavy for this thing |
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| 09:30.07 | ndnihil | damn shared objects |
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| 09:53.22 | ndnihil | /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl/5.8/auto/Tk/Event/Event.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Istack_sp_ptr |
| 09:53.30 | ndnihil | throws the FR across the room |
| 09:53.49 | ndnihil | so much for the debian armel perl-tk package |
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| 09:58.20 | ndnihil | ah, perl 5.10 |
| 09:59.45 | ndnihil | and naturally archive.debian had one for 5.8, but not in armel |
| 10:01.50 | lindi- | ndnihil: this is not the proper place to report it |
| 10:02.05 | ndnihil | I'm not reporting anything |
| 10:02.15 | ndnihil | just banging my head against the proverbial wall |
| 10:02.26 | lindi- | ndnihil: please repotr |
| 10:03.04 | ndnihil | there's nothing to report, as there is no reasonable expectation that a debian package for a higher version of perl doesn't work on shr-unstable from last month |
| 10:03.18 | ndnihil | or rather, an expectation of it working |
| 10:03.59 | ndnihil | just trying to get some sort of gui toolkit for perl on here |
| 10:04.08 | lindi- | ndnihil: ah, shr |
| 10:04.21 | lindi- | ndnihil: it sounded like a bug in debian :) |
| 10:04.31 | ndnihil | nah, I'm sure it works fine in its native environment |
| 10:04.44 | lindi- | ndnihil: we can't have those, need to freeze in 5 months :P |
| 10:05.02 | ndnihil | ? |
| 10:06.16 | lindi- | ndnihil: debian freezes in 5 months, after that only bug fixes are done until no release critical bugs exist and then Squeeze is released |
| 10:06.27 | ndnihil | eesh |
| 10:06.38 | ndnihil | debian has really upped the pace lately |
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| 10:07.15 | lindi- | ndnihil: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ is the page to watch |
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| 10:08.19 | ndnihil | so when it etch going to be EOL'd? |
| 10:08.22 | ndnihil | s/it/is/ |
| 10:08.26 | ndnihil | stabs apt |
| 10:08.43 | ndnihil | christ, I'm still using sarge on this machine |
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| 10:09.05 | ndnihil | and have 20+ etch hosts |
| 10:09.15 | ndnihil | just upgraded a couple to lenny |
| 10:09.22 | lindi- | ndnihil: one year after lenny was released i guess |
| 10:09.37 | lindi- | ndnihil: that all depends on security team |
| 10:10.20 | lindi- | ndnihil: http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/ looks like a lot of work to do |
| 10:11.55 | ndnihil | I guess I can leave the dom0's on etch |
| 10:12.02 | ndnihil | they're solid for the most part |
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| 10:13.32 | ndnihil | just doesn't want to brick something that's in a best case scenario 7 hours away (other side of the planet worst case) |
| 10:14.24 | DocScrutinizer | ndnihil: no KVM? |
| 10:14.44 | ndnihil | yeah, but not all are remotely accessible |
| 10:15.01 | DocScrutinizer | :-/ |
| 10:15.01 | ndnihil | I didn't pick them out |
| 10:15.38 | ndnihil | even then, rebuilding all that shit would be a huge pain in the ass |
| 10:15.46 | DocScrutinizer | so pick carefully the location and day/weather of the box to brick ;-P |
| 10:16.27 | ndnihil | been thinking about making up an excuse to do some on-site work in the london or tokyo offices :) |
| 10:16.37 | DocScrutinizer | ndnihil: and make sure your passport is valid |
| 10:22.22 | ndnihil | I don't suppose anyone has cross-compiled perl modules before? |
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| 10:24.08 | DocScrutinizer | 8billion on earth? I guess the problem is to find the one who did ;-P |
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| 10:31.02 | ndnihil | you know, tcl+tk is actually running pretty damn smooth on this thing |
| 10:33.20 | DocScrutinizer | I ony know SHR is fubar wrt buildprocess :-( |
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| 10:53.07 | pabs3 | hmmm, on SHR I seem to have a problem where tons of fsousaged processes build up over time |
| 10:53.07 | pabs3 | anyone know if this is a known bug? |
| 10:54.17 | dos1 | pabs3: ... |
| 10:54.34 | dos1 | pabs3: RTF maillist, or RTF backlog... |
| 10:54.48 | dos1 | or just "opkg install -force-reinstall fsousaged libgee0" |
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| 10:55.11 | dos1 | but pleaseeeeeee... asking the same question bilion times is soooo annoying :/ |
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| 11:32.24 | DocScrutinizer | dos1|away: where's the SHR-FAQ mentioning it? ;-) |
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| 14:21.02 | badcloud | anyone experience trouble reconnecting devices via bluetooth? |
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| 14:25.59 | badcloud | and incidently, there's a glitch in the 2.6.29-rc3 July 28th kernel when it comes to reinitiallizing bluetooth (shr unstable) |
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| 15:58.51 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r1099a55dc5b9 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (5 files): opimd: fix imports and move QueryMatcher class into query_manager.py |
| 15:58.52 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * raa021ba78f6e 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/mediator.py: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.freesmartphone.org:framework into dos/opimd-tracking |
| 15:58.53 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r59a37a54a40e 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (6 files): opimd: use GenericEntry in Contact class and refactor some opimd structures (experimental!) |
| 16:01.55 | tig| | meoooooooooow |
| 16:02.03 | Chocky | yes. |
| 16:02.14 | tig| | apologies, wrong channel :/ |
| 16:02.21 | Chocky | not at all ;o |
| 16:02.47 | tig| | actually slightly on topic, has anyone got openmeowcat working on SHR-U ? |
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| 16:03.59 | Chocky | Too many projects starting with "open". It's like a kids show, where everything is called "(name of kids show) object". So it's like a smurfcake, smurfcar, smurfdoor, smurfsleep, etc, etc. |
| 16:05.11 | tig| | Chocky: or iPhone, iPod, iLockIn, iExplode :) |
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| 16:05.22 | Chocky | Exactly. |
| 16:08.32 | CIA-54 | openmoko: 03werner * r5373 10/developers/werner/fped/ (TODO expr.c fpd.y obj.c obj.h): |
| 16:08.32 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - answered some of the questions in TODO |
| 16:08.32 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - added detection of recursive variable evaluation |
| 16:08.32 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - added detection of accesses to inactice loops |
| 16:09.44 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * raec532c0ba24 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py pimb_sim_messages_fso.py): opimd: SIM-*-FSO: cast _backend_entry_id to int when deleting and updating |
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| 16:12.50 | CIA-54 | openmoko: 03werner * r5374 10/trunk/eda/fped/ (65 files in 2 dirs): Moved fped over to /trunk/eda |
| 16:15.15 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * rd1a6e562781f 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py pimb_sim_messages_fso.py): Merge branch 'master' of git@git.freesmartphone.org:framework into dos/opimd-tracking |
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| 16:46.55 | SpeedEvil | http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26366 - SmartDevices SmartQ 5 4.3" 800 x 480 Touchscreen Linux MID (667MHz ARM CPU/WiFi/Bluetooth/1G Flash) |
| 16:47.45 | leinir | Q7 is even nicer :) |
| 16:49.51 | SpeedEvil | q7? |
| 16:50.16 | leinir | SmartDevices SmartQ 7 :) |
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| 17:58.36 | CIA-54 | openmoko: 03werner * r5375 10/trunk/eda/fped/ (9 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 17:58.36 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - keyboard functions for the canvas: - zoom out, + or = zoom in, . center, |
| 17:58.36 | CIA-54 | openmoko: * zoom and center to extents |
| 17:58.36 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - variables in tables weren't properly initialized, causing stray recursive |
| 17:58.36 | CIA-54 | openmoko: evaluation errors |
| 17:58.36 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - replaced table->active index with table->active_row pointer |
| 17:58.40 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - added row selection |
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| 18:31.13 | Digital_Pioneer | I'm looking at giving Android a shot. How is its battery life these days? |
| 18:33.05 | alephnull | Abysmal. It doesn't suspend, merely turns off the backlight. |
| 18:33.17 | alephnull | (I'm talking of beta7) |
| 18:33.30 | Digital_Pioneer | So probably about 5 or 6 hours per battery? |
| 18:33.42 | alephnull | About. |
| 18:33.57 | Digital_Pioneer | Yup. That won't do. I'll just have to keep waiting. :) |
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| 20:15.13 | leinir | . |
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| 20:18.06 | tae | hi im trying to get vixiecron working (default cron) i did, crontab -e and edited it like this; 16 21 * * * /root/mycommand and at 21:16 i hoped cron would run my command but it did not :( |
| 20:18.49 | tae | i ran cron -x sch and i saw that cron does run but it does not mention my command |
| 20:19.14 | tae | not sure how to troubleshoot it further since there are no logs etc. any help would be appriciated |
| 20:19.30 | tae | (im running shr) |
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| 20:25.26 | tae | [6725] sleeping for 7 seconds |
| 20:25.30 | tae | [6725] tick(25,21,2,7,1) |
| 20:25.34 | tae | then it just starts over again :/ |
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| 20:46.28 | tae | anybody running cron? |
| 20:46.28 | CIA-54 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5376 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Add symbol for Telit ge865 - potential 2G gsm modem. |
| 20:46.28 | lindi- | tae: i run anacron |
| 20:46.34 | tae | lindi-: what is anacron? |
| 20:46.38 | tae | googles |
| 20:46.56 | tae | ah |
| 20:47.06 | tae | this makes more sense |
| 20:47.28 | tae | thanks lindi- |
| 20:47.58 | tae | never throught regular cron would not be enough for me :P |
| 20:48.49 | tae | lindi-: what happends if the phone is suspended? |
| 20:49.06 | lindi- | tae: nothing |
| 20:49.27 | tae | nothing as in the scripts do not run? |
| 20:49.46 | tae | lindi-: or nothing as in 'everything runs as normal' ? |
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| 20:52.00 | lindi- | tae: cpu does not execute instructions in suspend. |
| 20:52.07 | lindi- | tae: => nothing can run |
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| 20:54.37 | tae | lindi-: there is no anacron for shr that ican find |
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| 20:55.00 | Weiss | wonders if anything came of the magic which lets you carry on a phone call while suspended |
| 20:55.46 | lindi- | tae: sorry about that, i don't really have time to maintain a complete distro just for openmoko so I use an existing one |
| 20:56.36 | tae | lindi-: that makes sense |
| 20:57.26 | tae | lindi-: well thanks for your help, i will try it from source, but may i ask you again about what happends in suspend? or rather what happends after. do the cronjobs run? |
| 20:59.44 | lindi- | tae: they run after resume at some time yes |
| 21:00.00 | tae | :) ok goodthanks |
| 21:02.07 | SpeedEvil | man cron |
| 21:02.12 | SpeedEvil | it explains time travel |
| 21:04.45 | tae | bash: man: command not found |
| 21:04.57 | tae | indeed, before man was invented |
| 21:05.42 | SpeedEvil | google man cron |
| 21:05.43 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 21:10.53 | CIA-54 | openmoko: 03werner * r5377 10/trunk/eda/fped/ (error.c fpd.y gui.c gui_style.h inst.c obj.c obj.h quad.fpd): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:10.53 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - combined frame and variable view into a single table |
| 21:10.53 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - make_var now sets up all back pointers, so we don't crash when deselecting a |
| 21:10.53 | CIA-54 | openmoko: variable (this bug was uncovered by cleanup in the previous commit) |
| 21:10.54 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - report_parse_error didn't print a newline at the end of the message |
| 21:10.56 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - introduced frame reference selection and the data structures needed for it |
| 21:10.58 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - bounding box calculation of arcs used x for y |
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| 21:15.29 | [Rui] | argh opkg: error while loading shared libraries: libopkg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:15.32 | [Rui] | shr-u |
| 21:15.53 | Wonka | wget, ar... |
| 21:17.12 | [Rui] | Wonka: what should I get? |
| 21:17.28 | Wonka | some .ipk with libopkg.so.0 |
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| 21:18.27 | Wonka | *waiting for his grep* |
| 21:18.40 | Wonka | /usr/lib/opkg/info$ grep libopkg *.list |
| 21:18.40 | Wonka | libopkg0.list:/usr/lib/libopkg.so.0.0.0 |
| 21:18.41 | Wonka | libopkg0.list:/usr/lib/libopkg.so.0 |
| 21:18.47 | Wonka | HTH |
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| 21:28.44 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-term * r2f1df30eb2cc 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): add abyss to available transport methods |
| 21:29.16 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * ra54a186761c9 10/.gitignore: gitignore++ |
| 21:30.39 | [Rui] | Wonka: where is that package? Not in all/ |
| 21:31.48 | Wonka | [Rui]: it contains .so files, so it cannot be in all/ |
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| 21:32.58 | [Rui] | Wonka: that may seem obvious to you, sadly not to me |
| 21:33.02 | Wonka | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/libopkg0_0.1.6+svnr204-r1_armv4t.ipk |
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| 21:33.56 | [Rui] | Wonka: yeah, I already found it :) but I don't know that if it contains .so files, so it cannot be in all/ |
| 21:35.19 | Wonka | [Rui]: the packages in all/ cannot contain architecture specific stuff like shared libraries |
| 21:36.30 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * r741c7dd59c7b 10/ (Makefile.am configure.ac src/consts.vala): cosmetics |
| 21:37.44 | [Rui] | opkg recovered |
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| 21:46.01 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-term * rbd0aa9283bcd 10/src/abysstransport.vala: catch dbus errors while creating AbyssTransport |
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| 21:52.24 | CIA-54 | openmoko: 03werner * r5378 10/trunk/eda/fped/ (README gui_canvas.c gui_status.c inst.c inst.h): |
| 21:52.24 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - don't crash when editing a NULL expression (e.g., default width) |
| 21:52.24 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - bounding boxes of silk objects now include the width |
| 21:52.24 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - # zooms and centers to currently active frame instance |
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| 22:57.37 | Kero | wonders what changed from kernel gitr119826 to gitr119838 that can give white screen for the latter after suspend on gta01. |
| 22:57.49 | Kero | where's te git repo? then I can clone and have a look |
| 22:58.18 | CIA-54 | openmoko: 03werner * r5379 10/trunk/eda/fped/ (gui.c gui_style.h obj.c obj.h): |
| 22:58.18 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - moved building of an activator into new function add_activator |
| 22:58.18 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - added loop value selection (quick and dirty) |
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| 23:23.03 | CIA-54 | openmoko: 03werner * r5380 10/trunk/eda/fped/ (gui.c gui_inst.c): |
| 23:23.03 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - before changing the world, always deselect (reported by Dave Ball) |
| 23:23.03 | CIA-54 | openmoko: - gui_draw_pad: add 10% of slack so that pad names are upright unless we really |
| 23:23.03 | CIA-54 | openmoko: need to rotate |
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