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| 07:45.18 | samgee | I'm trying to get usb networking to work in latest shr-unstable |
| 07:45.31 | samgee | mokonnect complains about an ethernet device |
| 07:45.49 | rooly | samgee: if you manage to get mokonnect working, i'll applaud you |
| 07:45.56 | rooly | i haven't had any luck with it |
| 07:46.01 | rooly | i prefer mofi |
| 07:46.05 | samgee | "Ethernet device was not found in connman. Do you have connman-plugin-ethernet installed?" |
| 07:46.29 | samgee | hm, I don't think the image has mofi |
| 07:47.01 | rooly | it doesn't |
| 07:47.39 | samgee | grabs his micro-sd adapter again |
| 07:48.15 | samgee | rooly, wasn't mofi just for wifi connections? |
| 07:48.26 | rooly | your absolutely right |
| 07:48.27 | rooly | it was |
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| 07:54.37 | dns53 | is it possible to chroot to the file system on the phone? shr upgrade has broken ssh for me |
| 07:55.03 | rooly | dns53: try restarting dropbear |
| 07:56.24 | dns53 | if i had icons on my desktop i'd try that but illume is partly broken |
| 07:56.37 | rooly | ouch |
| 07:56.44 | rooly | opkg upgrade failure? |
| 07:57.22 | dns53 | well my pc crashed during upgrade so that may have broken opkg |
| 07:57.51 | dns53 | so dropbear and illume are not working |
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| 08:17.06 | samgee | hm, boot messages scrolling by were suspicious |
| 08:17.20 | samgee | lsmod confirms it: my kernel can't seem to load modules |
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| 08:19.41 | samgee | modprobe rfcomm -> "FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.29-rc2/modules.dep: No such file or directory" |
| 08:19.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | dns53: sounds like you should be running your updates in screen |
| 08:20.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | seeing all these SHR isseus I wonder if I should be installing teh image I downloaded last night :S |
| 08:20.55 | samgee | Kamping_Kaiser, I'd stay stick with testing |
| 08:21.27 | samgee | hm, I have 2.6.29-rc3 instead of rc2 |
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| 08:23.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | having said that, i assume i'm running shr. i cant seem to find a way to check |
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| 08:25.31 | samgee | Kamping_Kaiser, do "opkg list | grep shr" in a terminal |
| 08:25.40 | samgee | if that has output you're probably running shr |
| 08:26.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | no output. and opkg upgrade says nothing to upgrade, so i assume i'm running some dead end :( |
| 08:27.05 | samgee | shr-testing doesn't do updates, iirc |
| 08:27.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | fso-milestone5 looks like what i'm running, guessing from opkg update |
| 08:28.00 | samgee | pretty old, isn't it? |
| 08:28.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | kernel is from feb 02, so i guess thats yes. |
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| 08:29.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | i like how it operates, so i'm hoping to find <new version> of what i'm currently running in the hopes that it keeps working how i want |
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| 08:30.45 | samgee | the only annoying issue I had with current shr testing is that the suspend/poweroff button window was about 1 pixel wide |
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| 08:34.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | samgee: SHR looks FSO like, so I guess I'll try it out |
| 08:36.25 | samgee | Kamping_Kaiser, again: stick with testing :) |
| 08:36.47 | samgee | this shr-unstable is giving me hell |
| 08:37.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | samgee: i'll check what image i got. |
| 08:37.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | heads afk for 30 |
| 08:37.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | (picking someone up) |
| 08:39.30 | samgee | goes back to shr-testing |
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| 09:20.17 | PBeck | hi |
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| 10:25.41 | RamsesFSFE | hm, I see a T2 at the end of my OpenMoko MAC address. This doesn't belong to the address, does it? |
| 10:25.55 | SpeedEvil | no |
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| 10:28.16 | RamsesFSFE | hm, there is a "G" in the MAC address. This is not allowed |
| 10:29.55 | mjr | you sure it isn't your openmoko dna? |
| 10:31.36 | RamsesFSFE | there is a wireless symbol in front of it |
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| 10:59.28 | thrashold | RamsesFSFE, it seems like you have gotten an OpenMoko with sexatrigesimal MAC address support |
| 10:59.51 | PaulFertser | RamsesFSFE: is it from the identity partition itself? |
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| 13:10.57 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd/regexps * rbf79d23bcc6d 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (pimd_contacts.py pimd_messages.py): |
| 13:10.57 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: opimd: Messages: use regexps instead of difflib |
| 13:10.57 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak <seba.dos1@gmail.com> |
| 13:10.58 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd/regexps * r5813d689af8c 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (pimd_calls.py pimd_messages.py): |
| 13:11.00 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: opimd: Calls: use regexps instead of difflib |
| 13:11.02 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak <seba.dos1@gmail.com> |
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| 13:27.00 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd/regexps * r3e37c340dfbd 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py: |
| 13:27.00 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: opimd: Messages: add forgotten import |
| 13:27.00 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak <seba.dos1@gmail.com> |
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| 13:47.06 | ericthefish | roadmap: 95% |
| 13:47.25 | ericthefish | (sorry wrong channel) |
| 13:47.44 | RamsesFSFE | woohoo! Got wifi with my neovento! |
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| 13:48.43 | jjjwc | Hmm, I can't seem to connect to my WiFi network with SHR. I disabled all security on the router temporarily and Mokonnect still reports that my access point isn't visible. |
| 13:48.49 | jjjwc | iwlist scan has no issue though |
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| 13:51.51 | argiris | opkg can change kernel? |
| 13:57.18 | argiris | Why installer shows only few packages on om2008? |
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| 14:49.10 | geaaru | hi, is there a rootfs image with debian for gta01? |
| 14:49.14 | geaaru | thanks in advance |
| 14:51.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | not afaik |
| 14:52.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | but #openmoko-debian may be better help |
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| 15:06.28 | geaaru | ah k, thanks |
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| 16:17.49 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * re6a560a4435e 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (__init__.py opimd.py): |
| 16:17.49 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: opimd: move factory from __init__.py to opimd.py |
| 16:17.49 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak <seba.dos1@gmail.com> |
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| 16:30.12 | Bert_2 | okey, mokonnect is acting odd and reinstalling gives the stale NFS stuff: http://pastebin.ca/1506968 |
| 16:30.18 | Bert_2 | and restarting didn't help |
| 16:31.04 | Bert_2 | what am I doing wrong ? |
| 16:33.00 | argiris | <Bert_2> try iwconfig first then use a GUI |
| 16:33.28 | Bert_2 | ow, my eth0 is gone |
| 16:34.15 | Bert_2 | how can that happen ? |
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| 16:45.58 | SpeedEvil | Bert_2: Someone stole it? |
| 16:46.58 | Bert_2 | who knows :P |
| 16:47.05 | Bert_2 | no, my SD card is dying I guess |
| 16:47.27 | Bert_2 | I'm now putting shr-unstable on my NAND, it's good enough now I guess |
| 16:47.54 | Bert_2 | I know how to get the kernel and the filesystem on, but what do I have to do with the modules ? |
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| 17:23.49 | argiris | why the qtopia keyboard still appears ?I config the file to value=1(from the guide),I unistalled it and still appears!!!And it crashes my e17 |
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| 19:08.01 | Slaxxer | anybody buy a 150 dollar freerunner on ebay today? |
| 19:08.12 | Meomer | damn, i started playing numpty |
| 19:08.22 | Slaxxer | cool aint it |
| 19:08.51 | Slaxxer | install it in your desktop |
| 19:08.57 | Meomer | oh it is, except when i'm stuck |
| 19:09.02 | Meomer | i'm playing it on the desktop now |
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| 19:20.33 | cgray | hi, opkg died on me the other day when it was upgrading and now i can't hear people when they call me (no idea if they can hear me)... any suggestions about what packages i should remove and re-install? |
| 19:20.51 | SpeedEvil | reflash is probably easier |
| 19:20.58 | cgray | shucks |
| 19:21.43 | cgray | that will overwrite everything on the root partition right? |
| 19:21.51 | SpeedEvil | yes. |
| 19:21.58 | SpeedEvil | this is installed to nand? |
| 19:22.12 | cgray | yeah, not sd |
| 19:22.25 | cgray | can never remember the difference between nand and nor |
| 19:23.07 | SpeedEvil | NAND is made from NAND gates. |
| 19:23.12 | SpeedEvil | NOR is made from NOR gates. |
| 19:23.19 | SpeedEvil | specialises in useless answers. |
| 19:23.35 | SpeedEvil | NAND is unreliable, slow, and cheap. |
| 19:23.45 | SpeedEvil | NOR is reliable, fast, and expensive. |
| 19:24.16 | cgray | ok, so the kernel is stored on nor and the rest on nand? |
| 19:24.18 | SpeedEvil | NAND has specifications that there may be a given number of errors per chip - and protocols to deal with them - NOR is error free. |
| 19:24.21 | SpeedEvil | No. |
| 19:24.41 | SpeedEvil | Normal boot boots from NAND - unless the aux button is pressed. |
| 19:25.01 | SpeedEvil | The first block is guaranteed error-free - and this is enough to tell the bootloader where it should read the kernel from. |
| 19:25.10 | cgray | I see. |
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| 19:31.50 | cgray | well, the reflash begins :) |
| 19:32.42 | cgray | btw, i couldn't find any voip apps that work with shr... are there any? |
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| 20:48.32 | Kagee | How is the status for Bluetooth on the Frerunner? Do i still have to configure everything manually using the shell and setting configurations using echo? |
| 20:51.29 | PaulFertser | Kagee: what exactly do you mean? |
| 20:51.44 | PaulFertser | Kagee: bluetooth is a technology used for many different things. |
| 20:54.42 | Kagee | at the moment i need tcp/ip acces to the phone over blutooth because i plan to use the usb port in host mode, and don't have a wireless network avalible |
| 20:55.34 | Kagee | Is there any software / dbus-bindings that can do the connection setup, or do i have to do everything from the command line? |
| 20:58.11 | PaulFertser | Kagee: i'm not sure any ready-to-use software exists. Also wiki instructions for "manual" methods are probably outdated as they are bluez3-specific and all modern distros use bluez4. |
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| 21:23.26 | Kagee | Dows the FSO framework have anything for bluez/bluetooth? i can only find the request resource part |
| 21:26.12 | PaulFertser | Kagee: it has bluetooth headsets support for GSM calls. |
| 21:26.48 | Kagee | ok. so if i want something more complex, i have to do it myself, anfter having reqested the resourse? |
| 21:27.02 | PaulFertser | Kagee: i'm afraid yes |
| 21:27.24 | PaulFertser | Kagee: probably i'm wrong, but i think there was no pand support in FSO., |
| 21:27.38 | Kagee | pand ? |
| 21:29.31 | PaulFertser | Kagee: i think that's how networking over bluetooth is called. |
| 21:29.43 | PaulFertser | (probably it was in bluez3 times or something) |
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| 21:36.13 | Kagee | I guess i have to allow connections to dropbear / ssh for all interfaces - wher do i change that? |
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| 21:43.12 | PaulFertser | Kagee: i use Debian, so it's /etc/default/dropbear for me. I think you need to view the script that starts dropbear for you, you'll see where it gets the parameters from. |
| 21:52.13 | Kagee | same place - i just removed the ip-part and left "22", and i've still got access after a restart |
| 21:53.09 | PaulFertser | Kagee: look like a right solution :) |
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| 22:24.21 | Kagee | i'm giving up, i'm getting a wlan setup ... |
| 22:24.28 | rooly | snickers |
| 22:24.56 | Kagee | useless bluetooth tools |
| 22:25.03 | rooly | agreed |
| 22:25.40 | tomcatek | I'm just trying to send a file to FR via bluetooth |
| 22:26.48 | Kagee | i'm just trying to pair my pc and phone - can't even find out how to do that |
| 22:26.48 | tomcatek | and it's hard even from console :/ |
| 22:27.55 | rooly | well, qtopia can 'manage' it |
| 22:28.27 | tomcatek | I'm using SHR |
| 22:28.49 | Kagee | tomcatek, how did you pair them there? |
| 22:29.10 | tomcatek | haven't managed to do that :/ |
| 22:29.18 | PaulFertser | tomcatek: i used obexpushd without issues to receive files |
| 22:30.14 | PaulFertser | Kagee: for pairing bluez4 sources have simple-agent script |
| 22:34.15 | Kagee | *where* in the sources? |
| 22:35.04 | rooly | its there |
| 22:35.29 | rooly | i'm sure you can go all 'Riddler with a newspaper and magazine and scissors' on it to make the script |
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| 22:40.52 | Kagee | i found the bluez-dbus documentation ... |
| 22:48.41 | tomcatek | PaulFertser: I have a problem, becouse my phone can't see FR via BT :// |
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| 23:00.31 | Kagee | Description about bluetooth networking -> "Running a TCP/IP stack over this mess" |
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| 23:34.51 | Kagee | http://sources.gentoo.org - Thu Jul 16 23:02:01 2009: (9 days ago) updated bluetooth guide, emergency fixes, bug 266690. we now no longer have a chapter on setting up a PAN, since nobody knows how the hell to do this. |
| 23:34.54 | Kagee | HA! |
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| 23:56.43 | tomcatek | ls |
| 23:58.28 | ndnihil | is there a default pin for shr-unstable BT? |