| 00:04.37 | dos1 | mmaestri: at 2 am? :P |
| 00:05.01 | quatrox | I am here too |
| 00:05.08 | quatrox | grrr.... |
| 00:05.12 | dos1 | mmaestri: well, SHR is using milestone 5.5 for quite long time |
| 00:06.00 | mmaestri | dos1: ... |
| 00:06.14 | mmaestri | sorry, it's 9pm here... |
| 00:06.46 | dos1 | mmaestri: well, most of people here are from europe |
| 00:07.29 | mmaestri | anyway, on the list it says that m5.5 is "new" |
| 00:07.46 | dos1 | mmaestri: cause it's "new" as release |
| 00:07.56 | dos1 | mmaestri: SHR is using always latest frameworkd from git |
| 00:08.05 | mmaestri | great |
| 00:08.21 | mmaestri | i like shr and fso |
| 00:08.47 | mmaestri | but illume keeps crashing on trivial things (on shr unstable at least) |
| 00:10.04 | mmaestri | like trying to change wallpaper |
| 00:10.58 | dos1 | mmaestri: are you using x11 or x11-16 engine? |
| 00:11.46 | mmaestri | dos1: i've just flashed shr yesterday |
| 00:12.45 | mmaestri | tried as default and also did a trick from "shr tips & tricks" |
| 00:13.16 | mmaestri | http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks |
| 00:13.44 | mmaestri | (echo "#!/bin/sh"; echo "export ELM_ENGINE=x11-16") > /etc/profile.d/set-elm-engine.sh |
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| 00:14.37 | mmaestri | but it fails anyway |
| 00:27.14 | dos1 | mmaestri: it's known that it fails with x11-15 |
| 00:27.19 | dos1 | s/x11-15/x11-16/ |
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| 09:41.41 | lysgaard | What's the difference between the glibc rootfs images and the ones missing the glibc? |
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| 09:43.50 | Elleo | lysgaard: they're all glibc images, the ones with shorter names are just symlinks to the latest version of any particular series |
| 09:44.11 | Elleo | at least that's the general convention, I couldn't say for certain without knowing what distribution you're talking about |
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| 09:49.11 | methril|work | good morning |
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| 09:53.26 | lysgaard | Elleo: Ah, see, thanks |
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| 12:08.52 | poli | morning all! |
| 12:09.19 | poli | I am with SHR 0703 and I can't get phonelog to work... Notifier shows a missed call, but no logs at all. Any ideas? |
| 12:11.03 | Ainulindale | yeah that's about the time we changed to opimd |
| 12:11.05 | Ainulindale | did you upgrade? |
| 12:17.25 | dos1 | poli: update config files... |
| 12:17.35 | poli | dos1: tell me more, please |
| 12:18.00 | dos1 | Ainulindale: that's why i said that letting opkg working correctly on upgrading conffiles is really important :P |
| 12:18.20 | dos1 | poli: just check differences before you say "No" to opkg, when it asks to overwrite configuration ;P |
| 12:18.41 | Ainulindale | dos1: that's not a matter of software |
| 12:18.47 | Ainulindale | if the user is dumb enough not to check |
| 12:18.50 | Ainulindale | it's not our fault |
| 12:19.07 | poli | Ainulindale: no, no upgrade, just flashed 0703 into the device |
| 12:19.12 | dos1 | looks like most of users are dumb enough... ;x |
| 12:19.14 | dos1 | poli: hmm |
| 12:19.15 | Ainulindale | poli: then that's normal |
| 12:19.27 | Ainulindale | dos1: well we can't do the user's work in his stead |
| 12:19.34 | Ainulindale | poli: reflash latest or upgrade |
| 12:19.38 | Ainulindale | ANd on upgrade overwrite your conf |
| 12:20.00 | Ainulindale | dos1: you only asked for that feature because it was annoying you for shr-installer, be honest! |
| 12:20.03 | poli | Ainulindale: so that's a known issue with 0703? |
| 12:20.14 | Ainulindale | Known issue with the phonelog on it yes |
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| 12:20.22 | Ainulindale | (damn I'm working here! =) |
| 12:20.28 | dos1 | Ainulindale: no |
| 12:20.49 | dos1 | Ainulindale: the first reason was what i said minute ago :P |
| 12:20.59 | Ainulindale | And what I'm telling you is |
| 12:21.04 | Ainulindale | If the user doesn't check and just press enter dumbly |
| 12:21.08 | Ainulindale | We can't do a thing |
| 12:21.14 | Ainulindale | Problem will arise again if he modifies his conf |
| 12:21.25 | Ainulindale | And you can't do a thing about that |
| 12:21.32 | dos1 | Ainulindale: developing shr-installer was second reason for that ;) |
| 12:21.35 | Ainulindale | Apart with what I said last week, postinst directives |
| 12:21.51 | Ainulindale | And that's something far more useful and important than conf file handling because it can do that aswell |
| 12:22.14 | dos1 | conf file handling from postinst? |
| 12:22.16 | dos1 | nooo |
| 12:22.17 | Ainulindale | Yep. |
| 12:22.22 | Ainulindale | Yes. |
| 12:22.23 | dos1 | that's ugly ;x |
| 12:22.26 | Ainulindale | Not that's not |
| 12:22.31 | Ainulindale | When you HAVE to change a path |
| 12:22.34 | Ainulindale | And you don't want to overwrite it |
| 12:22.37 | poli | Ok, that leads me to the second problem... I can't seem to get ttyusb0 up when I connect the phone... |
| 12:22.39 | Ainulindale | Then a sed at postinst is adequate |
| 12:22.44 | Ainulindale | That's why postinst is here |
| 12:22.47 | Ainulindale | TO do postinst operations |
| 12:22.58 | Ainulindale | Such as verify links, libraries, validate configuration |
| 12:23.10 | Ainulindale | poli: that's because it's eth0 |
| 12:23.12 | Ainulindale | or ethX |
| 12:23.20 | Ainulindale | (supposedly) |
| 12:23.27 | Ainulindale | (on your host I mean) |
| 12:23.35 | Ainulindale | if you have cdc-ether |
| 12:23.35 | poli | no kidding |
| 12:23.51 | Ainulindale | No kidding, being ironic or what? =) |
| 12:24.11 | poli | No, no. :) |
| 12:24.11 | Ainulindale | (damn I'm swamped everybody at work is asking me question today) |
| 12:24.17 | Ainulindale | poli: it was normalized a while ago |
| 12:24.19 | poli | [39602.510731] eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:1a.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:4f:22 |
| 12:24.26 | Ainulindale | Good :-) |
| 12:24.37 | poli | it is eth1 indeed, but I was just surprised about it hehe |
| 12:24.42 | morphis | Ainulindale: do you read my mail on the shr-devel ml about my ideas concerning a framework for application development? |
| 12:24.59 | Ainulindale | UMAF related? |
| 12:25.00 | poli | so opkg replace is the way to go? |
| 12:25.29 | Ainulindale | poli: just do opkg upgrade |
| 12:25.35 | Ainulindale | and when you're asked to replace or not conf |
| 12:25.37 | Ainulindale | say Y |
| 12:25.40 | Ainulindale | instead of default N |
| 12:25.50 | morphis | Ainulindale: jepp |
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| 12:26.06 | morphis | but even ophonekit related |
| 12:26.15 | Ainulindale | morphis: well I didn't have time to get through this, but application framework is too far from what is needed immediately |
| 12:26.21 | Ainulindale | That is, the basis of what we need to do such an app framework |
| 12:26.32 | poli | Ainulindale: thanks! |
| 12:26.33 | Ainulindale | Plus, app framework, IHMO, implies wrapping toolkits |
| 12:26.35 | Ainulindale | And I'm personally against that |
| 12:26.37 | poli | let me give it a try |
| 12:26.38 | Ainulindale | poli: you're welcome |
| 12:26.56 | Ainulindale | morphis: by basis I mean ophonekitd dbusification |
| 12:27.05 | Ainulindale | morphis: bear in mind that I'm telling this from what I recall about the mail |
| 12:27.07 | morphis | Ainulindale: not about wrapping toolkits, just about a basic infrastructure for application lifecycle handling |
| 12:27.14 | Ainulindale | morphis: such as? |
| 12:28.20 | morphis | such as that every application registers on a daemon which tells the application to create,start,stop,suspend,resume etc. |
| 12:28.41 | morphis | no toolkit wrapping |
| 12:29.03 | morphis | everything should only depend on a dbus interface |
| 12:29.56 | Ainulindale | then that's already planned with our dbusification |
| 12:30.10 | Ainulindale | morphis: in the ophonekitd dbusification we plan to define "functional domains" |
| 12:30.24 | Ainulindale | each domain covers a set of functions such as display this or that (abstract functional ideas) |
| 12:30.33 | Ainulindale | a domain is provided by a "module" using libmodulo |
| 12:30.42 | Ainulindale | then it can be suspended resumed, dynamically loaded & all |
| 12:30.43 | morphis | ok, I only read the discussion summary on the shr-devel ml |
| 12:30.45 | Ainulindale | and preloaded |
| 12:30.52 | Ainulindale | the plan is, for instance |
| 12:30.53 | morphis | great |
| 12:30.56 | Ainulindale | to have libframeworkd-phonegui-messages-efl |
| 12:31.01 | morphis | don't noticed this |
| 12:31.03 | Ainulindale | along with libframeworkd-phonegui-messages-gtk |
| 12:31.06 | Ainulindale | being preloadable |
| 12:31.12 | Ainulindale | dynamically chosen at runtime |
| 12:31.17 | morphis | but ptitjey already told me about modulo |
| 12:31.23 | Ainulindale | along with the user's wishes |
| 12:31.53 | morphis | then you can switch on runtime between efl and gtk? |
| 12:32.02 | Ainulindale | yep |
| 12:32.06 | poli | Ainulindale: so I don't need to manually download the kernel? Is opkg upgrade able to upgrade it too? |
| 12:32.09 | Ainulindale | you just suspend one and resume the other |
| 12:32.19 | Ainulindale | poli: you need to download it to flash it at flash time |
| 12:32.22 | Ainulindale | then upgrade is enoguh |
| 12:32.22 | morphis | are your plans written down somewhere or only available on the ml? |
| 12:32.25 | Ainulindale | if you reflash, reflash kernel |
| 12:32.40 | Ainulindale | morphis: all is on the ML, and a part summed up in my slides for FSOSHRUDCON |
| 12:32.51 | Ainulindale | morphis: http://build.shr-project.org/fsoshrudcon/ |
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| 12:35.31 | morphis | and whats the current state about the implementation? I noticed there is not so much activity on that in the git repo |
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| 12:38.45 | Ainulindale | morphis: there's nothing |
| 12:38.57 | Ainulindale | If only I had time to relaunch things |
| 12:39.08 | Ainulindale | morphis: If you're interested in that, now that we agree on functional specifications |
| 12:39.14 | Ainulindale | We should talk about technical specifications of this layer |
| 12:39.18 | Ainulindale | (on the devel ML) |
| 12:39.28 | Ainulindale | It should be brief |
| 12:39.46 | morphis | Jepp, I am very interested |
| 12:40.08 | morphis | I am currently re-reading the whole discussion thread |
| 12:42.13 | morphis | maybe I should create a new wiki page collecting all the stuff discussed on the ml to have a good starting point for further discussion |
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| 12:47.13 | poli | Ainulindale: So how do I know when it is safe to do a opkg upgrade? Or is it always safe from now on? |
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| 12:48.28 | poli | And what is ubifs? |
| 12:52.16 | Ainulindale | poli: It is supposedly always safe |
| 12:52.25 | Ainulindale | Sadly there's no true way to ensure that until we stabilize testing |
| 12:52.31 | Ainulindale | morphis: I'd like that very much |
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| 13:03.29 | thrashold | SHR is using UBIFS now? |
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| 13:20.59 | poli | Ainulindale: ok, so should I use testing or unstable for a non-developer? |
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| 13:22.34 | Ainulindale | for the time being unstable |
| 13:22.43 | Ainulindale | as soon as we get testing back on track, testing |
| 13:23.23 | poli | good |
| 13:23.35 | poli | Is there any SIP-client working? |
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| 13:35.34 | poli | update-alternatives: Linking //boot/uImage to uImage-2.6.29-rc3 |
| 13:35.34 | poli | could that be a problem? |
| 13:35.48 | Ainulindale | Nah |
| 13:36.54 | poli | Upgrading Kernel in Flash |
| 13:36.59 | poli | oh that's new! |
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| 15:08.13 | poli | anyone using any SIP clients around? |
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| 15:22.12 | poli | What's the best way to have some google maps in any GPS application? better yet, what's the best GPS application for google maps? |
| 15:22.50 | dos1 | poli: tango gps can use data from google maps |
| 15:23.01 | dos1 | omgps also i think |
| 15:23.14 | SpeedEvil | You cannot download google map tiles and cache them. |
| 15:23.26 | SpeedEvil | Ever - if you want to abide by the terms and conditions of the T&C |
| 15:30.08 | Blu3 | has a very limited set of google map tiles permanently cached by permission prior to the T&C enactment prohibiting caching |
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| 15:34.03 | poli | well I don't really know of any other map sources that covers my area :( |
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| 15:41.28 | SpeedEvil | poli: openstreetmap? |
| 15:41.30 | SpeedEvil | Where ar eyou |
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| 15:55.35 | thrashold | Hm, someone should take ScummVM's GUI, and make a phone GUI out of it |
| 15:55.43 | thrashold | or a whole GUI toolkit :D |
| 15:55.58 | amon_ | Do it! |
| 15:56.12 | amon_ | Don't waste your time blabbering here, go write some code. |
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| 16:01.46 | poli | SpeedEvil: unfortunatly OSM is still way too incomplete. I am in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and I am actually one of the contributors for OSM in my area. ;) |
| 16:02.34 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 16:02.57 | SpeedEvil | You can download from tangogps wide areas - but you may be banned |
| 16:03.42 | poli | SpeedEvil: download from where? |
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| 16:08.40 | SpeedEvil | it's possible to configure tangogps to download google map tiles. |
| 16:08.49 | SpeedEvil | No, I don't know details, as I have not done this. |
| 16:10.33 | poli | I have tried, twice, with no good results. |
| 16:10.34 | poli | :( |
| 16:10.49 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 16:11.14 | SpeedEvil | I don't know if anyone in #osm over on irc.oftc.net would be willing/able to help. |
| 16:11.18 | SpeedEvil | might be worth a shot |
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| 16:28.39 | Darkas | hi |
| 16:29.09 | Darkas | is there something like the mokomakefile for emulating gta02 with qemu? |
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| 16:31.02 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 16:31.04 | amon_ | Darkas: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qemu#Neo_FreeRunner_.28GTA02.29 ? |
| 16:31.20 | SpeedEvil | It's may have bitrotted I'm unsure. It did work at one point |
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| 16:32.24 | Darkas | amon_, but that's for building qemu without the makefile or did I miss something? |
| 16:33.16 | amon_ | I have no idea. That was just a shot in the dark. |
| 16:33.26 | Darkas | SpeedEvil, how do I get it? |
| 16:33.34 | Darkas | ah, ok |
| 16:33.53 | Darkas | or is it just another build command? |
| 16:36.33 | SpeedEvil | It used to be a option to mokomakefile |
| 16:36.59 | SpeedEvil | However - I have vague recollections that it wasn't building properly, and nobody was interested in fixing, so it got disabled. |
| 16:37.04 | SpeedEvil | This may be incorrect. |
| 16:37.08 | Darkas | hm, ok |
| 16:37.10 | mjr | anyone tried compcache (that compressed in-memory swap) on the neo? might it aid slightly to cram stuff into the memory or just too much cpu overhead? |
| 16:37.49 | SpeedEvil | mjr: I have not tried that thing. |
| 16:38.09 | Darkas | SpeedEvil, do you know if a gta02 distro should work with this one too? |
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| 16:38.13 | SpeedEvil | mjr: I've tried a related concept in the past, and it worked well. |
| 16:38.16 | SpeedEvil | Darkas: with what? |
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| 16:38.33 | Darkas | gentoo |
| 16:38.41 | SpeedEvil | mjr: http://mergemem.ist.org/ |
| 16:39.06 | Darkas | I want to use qemu to update it and install new programs and if anything works, flash it to my fr ;) |
| 16:39.10 | SpeedEvil | mjr: It is somewhat old. |
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| 16:39.45 | SpeedEvil | Darkas: GTA02 is a hardware platform for qemu - you need a GTA02 distribution |
| 16:40.19 | Darkas | SpeedEvil, I'm running gentoo on my gta02 |
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| 16:42.09 | Wonka | hmm... anyone tried distcc-ing for FR? having x86 machines cross-compile arm4t stuff? |
| 16:42.22 | Darkas | Wonka, yep |
| 16:42.27 | Darkas | works pretty fine |
| 16:42.30 | Wonka | nice |
| 16:43.25 | Darkas | you just need to configure it for cross compiling on the fr |
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| 16:43.58 | Darkas | Wonka, what do you want to build on it? |
| 16:44.16 | Wonka | nothing, at the moment |
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| 16:44.24 | Wonka | just wanted to know if it works |
| 16:44.33 | Darkas | ah, ok |
| 16:44.47 | Darkas | because I'm having problems with a few applications ;) |
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| 16:49.28 | SpeedEvil | mjr: interesting project. /me adds mergemem comment. |
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| 16:51.09 | mjr | apparently compcache-0.6-pre2 fixes some arm crashes, convenient ;P |
| 16:51.16 | mjr | released today |
| 16:52.33 | SpeedEvil | I used mergemem lots on my 486/75 lappie |
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| 16:53.28 | SpeedEvil | http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/8/15/77 and a later attempt |
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| 16:55.06 | SpeedEvil | IIRC 400K on an 8M machine (under X) |
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| 17:01.54 | rooly | finally caved |
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| 17:04.03 | rooly | installed shr-unstable |
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| 17:30.04 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: Add convenience function for C users |
| 17:30.04 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
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| 18:32.58 | rooly | anybody tested vagalume over gprs? |
| 18:36.15 | SpeedEvil | http://lwn.net/Articles/329123/ |
| 18:36.29 | SpeedEvil | Oooh - mergemem - reborn. |
| 18:37.47 | rooly | tells people to not try last.fm over gprs |
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| 18:41.21 | Meomer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:44.03 | rooly | i suppose scrobbling |
| 18:44.14 | rooly | since thats what i checked off in the vagalume page |
| 18:44.39 | johnsu01 | scrobbling over gprs works fine |
| 18:44.42 | johnsu01 | streaming not so much |
| 18:44.53 | johnsu01 | though I did successfully do it tethered to an EDGE connection |
| 18:45.24 | johnsu01 | (I didn't use vagalume for scrobbling though, just mpdscribble and zomg) |
| 18:45.41 | rooly | is using shr-unstable + launcher... |
| 18:45.45 | rooly | and i'm loving my phone |
| 18:45.58 | rooly | is also using the nEo theme |
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| 18:59.24 | cichlid | i can't find kernel-module-ext2fs .opk package on shr-unstable ... |
| 19:00.22 | cichlid | the thing is I have a ext2 microSD slot with debian and e2fsck is ran every time I switch from shr to debian |
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| 19:00.53 | cichlid | lsmod|grep ext2 ---> no module |
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| 19:26.03 | Meomer | cichlid: hmm, is there an e2tools package? |
| 19:26.20 | Meomer | cichlid: i assume you're looking for tune2fs? |
| 19:26.45 | cichlid | Meomer, they gave me a hand on -cdvel :-) |
| 19:26.50 | Meomer | oh |
| 19:28.47 | cichlid | issue is every time time i boot back debian on uSD i get fsck launching and dying |
| 19:29.20 | cichlid | i was suspecting SHR not unmounting the slot correctly |
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| 20:43.03 | cichlid | shr-unstable sounds like to be shipped with mismatching bluez-library (bluez 4.39) and bluetoothd 3.33 |
| 20:43.40 | cichlid | so playing music through bluetooth headset is guaranteed to fail with that defaukt config |
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| 20:46.53 | cichlid | i'd like to make that smoother |
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| 20:57.35 | PaulFertser | cichlid: i've just asked mrmoku, he should know how to fix it. |
| 20:58.34 | cichlid | thx PaulFertser |
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| 20:59.28 | ChaosEagle | Evening :) |
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