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| 00:29.00 | mmaestri | latest shr unstable image (july 10) has some funny xorg behavior... |
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| 02:17.37 | SevenDays | i can't find the wiki page on enabling ssh via lan |
| 02:17.44 | SevenDays | someone has a link? :/ |
| 02:21.15 | SevenDays | ok, i found out, thanks |
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| 03:27.19 | jjwc | Hi guys-- quick question. I purchased an A6 at the cheaper price recently after following (and forgetting about) Openmoko for qutie a while now and am preparing for the rework. |
| 03:27.27 | jjwc | I've never touched lead-free solder though... |
| 03:28.08 | jjwc | So I'm wondering if all I need to do is just set my iron up hotter and the rework process will be the same as any standard electronics work... |
| 03:28.29 | jjwc | Also wondering if I can just use lead solder to add the necessary components. |
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| 08:00.14 | Undrwater | anyone using shr? |
| 08:03.18 | ndnihil | I am |
| 08:03.33 | Undrwater | bluetooth headset? |
| 08:03.36 | ndnihil | nope |
| 08:03.42 | ndnihil | talk to PaulFertser about that |
| 08:03.55 | Undrwater | i've followed the ML and wiki.. :P |
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| 08:52.11 | ndnihil | http://stlouis.craigslist.org/mob/1276655747.html |
| 08:52.15 | ndnihil | anyone want an iphone? :) |
| 08:52.38 | doc|home | at this stage, I'm tempted :( |
| 08:52.47 | doc|home | er |
| 08:52.52 | doc|home | is that guy holding a bong? |
| 08:52.55 | ndnihil | yup |
| 08:53.01 | ndnihil | and exhaling from said bong |
| 08:53.12 | doc|home | erm |
| 08:53.19 | ndnihil | "oops" |
| 08:53.33 | doc|home | hehe |
| 08:53.56 | tobii_ | 375$ with the bong? |
| 08:54.00 | tobii_ | ;D |
| 08:54.18 | ndnihil | ask him if he'll throw in a quarter bag |
| 08:54.36 | ndnihil | (1/4oz for those non-US) |
| 08:57.43 | tobii_ | why did he upload this picture |
| 08:57.45 | tobii_ | hmm |
| 08:57.53 | ndnihil | I'm guessing it was an accident |
| 08:58.08 | ndnihil | particularly since he included his phone number |
| 08:58.35 | tobii_ | or he wanted to be very cool |
| 09:11.00 | RamsesFSFE | hi all, I think, now I have found the ideal distribution for me, it's neovento. But: What can I do if the wireless device is missing? I had this problem with all distris, not only with this one |
| 09:11.46 | lindi- | RamsesFSFE: what command did you run to try to list it? |
| 09:12.29 | RamsesFSFE | lindi-, iwconfig and ifconfig |
| 09:13.25 | lindi- | RamsesFSFE: sudo sh -c "echo s3c2440-sdi > $sys_wlan_driver/bind" |
| 09:14.11 | lindi- | RamsesFSFE: where sys_wlan_driver=/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi |
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| 09:21.05 | RamsesFSFE | lindi I will try that, thanks |
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| 09:31.02 | atiflz | hi there |
| 09:31.15 | atiflz | are there any hackable1 users? |
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| 09:37.35 | leila | Hello. Is the rootfs partition 64mb on the gta02 ? |
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| 09:40.09 | usr | anyone using the dbus? |
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| 09:43.40 | leila | Great... android put an extra partition on the nand ... |
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| 09:49.18 | usr | is there an app for setup connect via wifi-wpa in fso? |
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| 09:52.20 | leila | Is there a way to repartition the nand ... |
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| 10:09.44 | RamsesFSFE | lindi-, the above gives "sh: line 0: echo: write error: No such device" |
| 10:14.15 | Wonka | why does SHR tell me "Your Battery is low!" when apm says 54%? |
| 10:15.12 | leinirAWAY | Butbutbut... That /is/ low! ;) |
| 10:21.50 | RamsesFSFE | hrmpf, all eths and wlan0 are missing :-( |
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| 10:30.27 | PBeck | hi |
| 10:31.06 | RamsesFSFE | I seriously need help, all networking devices except for usb0 and lo are missing. What can I do? I don't find any hints on Google |
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| 10:36.28 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: what is the problem? |
| 10:36.45 | PBeck | you only need usb0 for a network connection to the freerunner |
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| 10:39.23 | RamsesFSFE | PBeck, I want a connection to my WLAN with the freerunner? |
| 10:39.57 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: wlan chip is activated? |
| 10:40.07 | PBeck | it is not powered on start i think |
| 10:40.57 | RamsesFSFE | yes, it is |
| 10:42.39 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: which distro you are using? |
| 10:43.09 | RamsesFSFE | PBeck, neovento, a kind of Debian |
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| 10:44.27 | thrashold | You should first enable the WiFi adapter. The best way is to set the policy in fso-framework to enabled, the second best is to enable the resource with fso-framework, and the last way is to enable it manually. |
| 10:45.19 | AlexC | Is the neo freerunner suitable for stable use of calls/text messages out of the box? |
| 10:45.33 | RamsesFSFE | AlexC, depends on the distro, I think |
| 10:45.41 | mjr | Not out of the box. Semi-suitable perchance upon flashing shm or something. |
| 10:45.43 | thrashold | AlexC: "Out of the box", no |
| 10:46.03 | SpeedEvil | The box distribution is a random old image that isn't very great |
| 10:46.09 | AlexC | On Om 2008 |
| 10:46.12 | thrashold | AlexC: First out of the USB port, yes |
| 10:46.12 | thrashold | :D |
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| 10:47.17 | RamsesFSFE | AlexC, I had several problems with Om 2008 |
| 10:47.31 | AlexC | If i buy one will it be able to make calls and send text messages without too much fiddling on "Om 2008"? |
| 10:47.56 | AlexC | RamsesFSFE: what distro do you recommend? |
| 10:48.10 | dos1 | AlexC: SHR or maybe Om2009 |
| 10:48.27 | dos1 | but i prefer SHR |
| 10:48.42 | leila | http://pastebin.com/d76c851ca does anyone know how to get rid of the userdata (I want it merged back with system) |
| 10:49.02 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: has neovento no wifi tool? |
| 10:49.10 | PBeck | to enable and disable wifi? |
| 10:49.19 | AlexC | Does SHR still have most of the features of OM 2008? |
| 10:50.57 | SpeedEvil | Several developers are using FR as their only phone. |
| 10:51.02 | tobii_ | Wonka: tomorrow TopPoint? |
| 10:51.04 | SpeedEvil | And reporting no problems with it. |
| 10:51.20 | SpeedEvil | AlexC: can you operate a soldering iron? |
| 10:51.55 | AlexC | Yes, but i don't have one... why is that nessessary? |
| 10:52.14 | RamsesFSFE | PBeck, I have enabled wifi on it, the interface is still missing |
| 10:52.26 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: no gui to configure wifi? |
| 10:52.58 | RamsesFSFE | PBeck, some kind of, but I think it relies on the interface |
| 10:53.10 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: perhaps a reboot helps ;) |
| 10:54.21 | thrashold | RamsesFSFE: is the kernel module loaded? Tryed unloading it and reloading it? |
| 10:54.41 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: i read not about any problems in the fyp-thread about wifi |
| 10:55.43 | RamsesFSFE | PBeck, reboot doesn't help. Do you know the name of the kernel module? |
| 10:56.22 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: http://opensvn.csie.org/fyp/releases/5/ <= that is the actual release |
| 10:56.32 | PBeck | flashable image and kernel |
| 10:57.21 | SpeedEvil | AlexC: some of hte FRs being sold a the moment have a problem with GSM buzz. |
| 10:57.30 | RamsesFSFE | PBeck, yes, that's what I installed |
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| 10:57.43 | AlexC | sppedevil: i'm getting A7 |
| 10:58.06 | AlexC | speedevil* |
| 10:58.30 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: what says iwconfig |
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| 10:59.31 | PBeck | you can try to configure it manually |
| 10:59.38 | AlexC | What's Qtopia like? |
| 10:59.42 | PBeck | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi |
| 11:00.19 | RamsesFSFE | PBeck, iwconfig gives me lo and usb0 and of course says: no wireless interface |
| 11:01.07 | thrashold | AlexC: It's cool, all basic stuff works, it's fast. Unlike the rest, it's like a real phone. :D But you can't do much anything but phone there, and it lacked cyrillic fonts, so I gave it up. |
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| 11:04.52 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: one moment i will test it on my fr |
| 11:05.41 | RamsesFSFE | PBeck, I think my problem is one step before configuring the network interfaces. They simply don't exist |
| 11:06.04 | SpeedEvil | AlexC: for some users - a simple two component rework fixes it. Though the newer version doesn't |
| 11:06.04 | SpeedEvil | a |
| 11:06.04 | SpeedEvil | k |
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| 11:10.52 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: ok on start i have no wifi device - you chip is not activated correct |
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| 11:11.00 | PBeck | your* |
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| 11:12.59 | RamsesFSFE | PBeck, I have activated it on the GUI, what else can I do? |
| 11:13.32 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: i think its not correct - then when i activate it on shr it will show a network device |
| 11:14.00 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: i search for a manually solution |
| 11:15.01 | RamsesFSFE | IMHO, a kernel module is missing. I'm looking for it |
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| 11:16.24 | PBeck | RamsesFSFE: hum then sould all had a problem with wifi |
| 11:16.30 | PBeck | *should all have |
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| 11:17.19 | RamsesFSFE | PBeck, hm |
| 11:18.03 | quatrox | RamsesFSFE: look in /lib/modules/ for the module... find the name and modprobe it |
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| 11:18.33 | RamsesFSFE | quatrox, that's what I'm trying right now |
| 11:18.43 | RamsesFSFE | hm, the IPv4 module is missing |
| 11:19.25 | quatrox | hmm |
| 11:19.35 | quatrox | is that a module? |
| 11:19.55 | RamsesFSFE | yes |
| 11:19.56 | quatrox | RamsesFSFE: I assume it is compiled |
| 11:20.03 | RamsesFSFE | quatrox, hm ok |
| 11:20.09 | quatrox | *compiled in |
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| 11:21.40 | quatrox | RamsesFSFE: lsmod|grep ar6000 ||modprobe ar6000 |
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| 11:26.31 | RamsesFSFE | quatrox, ar6000 126008 0 |
| 11:27.23 | quatrox | RamsesFSFE: ifconfig -a does not show eth0? |
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| 11:45.35 | RamsesFSFE | nope |
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| 11:48.57 | RamsesFSFE | quatrox, maybe I should flash it again? |
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| 11:56.24 | quatrox | RamsesFSFE: try rmmod ar6000; depmod -a; modprobe ar6000; ifconfig -a |
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| 11:57.40 | RamsesFSFE | quatrox, no change |
| 11:58.18 | quatrox | RamsesFSFE: like I guessed... is there some strange messages in the syslog? |
| 11:58.29 | quatrox | *are there |
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| 11:59.11 | RamsesFSFE | quatrox, omg... there is no syslog... |
| 11:59.19 | quatrox | there is |
| 11:59.30 | quatrox | dmesg |
| 11:59.53 | leila | is uboot responsible for the partitionlayout ? |
| 12:00.00 | SpeedEvil | leila: no |
| 12:00.07 | leila | damn ... |
| 12:00.09 | quatrox | RamsesFSFE: you can activate /var/log/messages by editing a config file |
| 12:00.30 | SpeedEvil | leila: uboot is a bootloader. It needs to know about the partition layout often - but it does not set it up |
| 12:00.52 | leila | I see .. |
| 12:01.16 | leila | Then how did the android install create an extra nand partition anyway |
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| 12:01.24 | pabs3 | recent updates in SHR changed the clock from digital to analog, is there any way to switch back (the illume settings thing seems to be disabled too)? |
| 12:01.28 | quatrox | leila: from linux? |
| 12:01.54 | leila | quatrox, got a link with that ? |
| 12:02.02 | quatrox | leila: look at the install script |
| 12:02.41 | leila | can try |
| 12:02.51 | pabs3 | gah, power button no longer brings up the suspend/logout/poweroff menu either |
| 12:03.16 | leila | tho it is installed by flash now |
| 12:03.22 | RamsesFSFE | I don't see anything strange in dmesg |
| 12:03.45 | quatrox | leila: I didn't try out android yet, so I am just assuming it boots up linux with a custom init the first time |
| 12:04.17 | RamsesFSFE | I'm trying to reflash it now |
| 12:07.10 | leila | quatrox, seems that the install usd is just a big bunch of bins and imgs |
| 12:08.42 | quatrox | leila: can you figure out which bin it booted up the first time? |
| 12:09.19 | quatrox | hmm... I can download android and check but it will take some time |
| 12:09.22 | dos1 | pabs3: no recent updates, that's your fault ;P |
| 12:09.27 | dos1 | pabs3: change profile to illume-shr |
| 12:09.31 | leila | quatrox, educated guess. the uImage-GTA02.bin in /boot |
| 12:09.48 | quatrox | that is the kernel |
| 12:09.59 | dos1 | pabs3: if you can't, do "rm -rf ~/.e" |
| 12:10.06 | quatrox | leila: I guess it boots the kernel with a custom init |
| 12:10.12 | quatrox | but I will check |
| 12:10.56 | leila | thanks |
| 12:13.19 | pabs3 | dos1: thanks, it might be due to sharing /home with an FDOM install perhaps |
| 12:13.41 | dos1 | pabs3: oh. that's for sure due to that :P |
| 12:15.52 | pabs3 | funny thing was that it felt quit a bit faster than the Illume-SHR theme |
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| 12:21.23 | dos1 | hmm? |
| 12:21.40 | dos1 | illume-shr is tweaked to be little faster and hog less cpu ;x |
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| 12:23.44 | pabs3 | yay, I broke sliders due to turning up the DPI scaling too high |
| 12:23.53 | pabs3 | goes to lunch |
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| 12:26.10 | ildip | is there a official SHR irc room? |
| 12:26.35 | ildip | my phone keeps 'freezing' when going into suspend |
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| 12:28.53 | Zorkman | ildip: go to #openmoko-cdevel |
| 12:29.06 | ildip | ok |
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| 12:44.39 | txyz | Hi, can the openmoko run without a SIM card? |
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| 12:45.18 | SpeedEvil | es |
| 12:45.19 | SpeedEvil | y |
| 12:45.36 | txyz | some cellphones don't allow you to run without a sim card |
| 12:46.00 | SpeedEvil | Without a SIMcard, it's just a small linux box. |
| 12:46.17 | txyz | so the GPS would work also? |
| 12:46.22 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 12:46.27 | txyz | nice |
| 12:46.42 | SpeedEvil | The GPS however is not a GPS as on many phones - as it's just a simple GPS |
| 12:46.56 | SpeedEvil | there is no underlyng mapping software that's always installed. |
| 12:47.41 | txyz | i see. i thought i saw a screenshot of a mapping software on the frontpage though |
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| 12:49.05 | SpeedEvil | There is mapping software available - from a users point of view - it's generally greatly inferior to - say - tomtom. |
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| 12:49.30 | txyz | Do you mean the accuracy aspect? |
| 12:49.33 | quatrox | leila: I guess the kernel use ramdisk.img for the first boot, then system.img |
| 12:49.33 | SpeedEvil | As the software for routing is at best patchy |
| 12:50.00 | txyz | Ok |
| 12:50.09 | leila | quatrox, any clue how to acces the contents on the ramdisk.img ? |
| 12:50.11 | SpeedEvil | txyz: no - accuracy is fine - it's the maps. Either you have an app that shows a moving map - from openstreetmaps - or you have a vector appliction that uses openstreetmap data to route and display the map. |
| 12:50.36 | SpeedEvil | txyz: In many places in the world, the openstreetmap data isn't especially great - though it's improving all the time quite rapidly. |
| 12:50.47 | SpeedEvil | For example - OSM has the best maps of palestine. |
| 12:50.47 | quatrox | leila: I got no idea. I know how to generate them and that's it |
| 12:50.50 | SpeedEvil | (or will shortly) |
| 12:51.26 | txyz | SpeedEvil: Ah ok. What about the GPS/sattelite internet? That will require a SIM card correcct? |
| 12:51.42 | SpeedEvil | ? |
| 12:51.46 | thrashold | Navit can use maps from other (...proprietary...) sources, though I have never tried |
| 12:51.50 | SpeedEvil | satellite internet would require an external modem |
| 12:52.11 | SpeedEvil | thrashold: you're not thinking of cloudmade are you? |
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| 12:52.23 | thrashold | And TangoGPS can download maps from Google Maps (although I think only satellite photos, because I haven't tried. But for some places they are better than OSM) |
| 12:53.07 | txyz | SpeedEvil: i mean how standard cellphones can access the internet |
| 12:53.09 | SpeedEvil | I think it can do proper maps from google - but that is against the google T&C - and has got some people banned |
| 12:53.09 | thrashold | I don't even know what's cloudmap |
| 12:53.19 | SpeedEvil | txyz: you need a SIM yes - for that. |
| 12:53.24 | RamsesFSFE | hrm |
| 12:53.30 | RamsesFSFE | reflashing didn't help |
| 12:53.40 | thrashold | cloudmade |
| 12:54.03 | txyz | SpeedEvil: i see. Do you think OM's call quality is okay? |
| 12:54.28 | SpeedEvil | txyz: I've not used it for calling much. |
| 12:54.38 | txyz | ok |
| 12:54.42 | SpeedEvil | some devs use it as a primary phone. |
| 12:54.56 | dos1 | as I |
| 12:55.01 | dos1 | for me call quality is ok |
| 12:55.13 | dos1 | sometimes other party complains at buzz, but it's fixed in a7 |
| 12:55.22 | txyz | ok |
| 12:55.26 | quatrox | RamsesFSFE: try with a different img |
| 12:55.28 | dos1 | after tweaking statefile call quality for me is perfect |
| 12:56.02 | thrashold | What did you tweak and where can anyone view what tweaks you did? :) |
| 12:56.04 | RamsesFSFE | *sigh* |
| 12:56.04 | txyz | i think OM is great, but the screen is just too hard for the eye for doing "linux/computer work" |
| 12:56.28 | RamsesFSFE | to be honest: This device isn't ready for productive use |
| 12:57.09 | quatrox | RamsesFSFE: I use it as a laptop |
| 12:57.16 | quatrox | and it works great |
| 12:57.25 | RamsesFSFE | quatrox, which distribution? |
| 12:57.31 | quatrox | SHR |
| 12:57.32 | thrashold | It is ready for productive use, it just have some annoyances that make it not so pleasant at times |
| 12:57.51 | quatrox | my main problem is that gprs is not stable if I download |
| 12:58.01 | quatrox | but I didn't test it recently |
| 12:58.10 | quatrox | so I will test again |
| 12:59.29 | txyz | hm, font can be adjusted right? |
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| 13:00.30 | leila | quatrox, I am guessing (after some research) that ubi is used or somesuch ... |
| 13:00.44 | quatrox | RamsesFSFE: waiting for integrated BT support and a good volume control app |
| 13:02.11 | quatrox | leila: maybe you can find some info in the build process... koolu mentioned that the install process could be modified |
| 13:02.25 | leila | quatrox, that is a point yes |
| 13:02.50 | quatrox | but anyway |
| 13:03.05 | quatrox | you may write to the nand from linux |
| 13:05.35 | quatrox | leila: I know u-boot looks at one place on the eeprom for env params |
| 13:05.43 | quatrox | which defines the "partitions" |
| 13:06.06 | quatrox | so all you need to do is to modify those |
| 13:06.28 | quatrox | I guess you can use ftdi |
| 13:06.34 | leila | quatrox, cat /proc/partitions ;) |
| 13:07.06 | pabs3 | txyz: which distro? |
| 13:08.01 | quatrox | leila: then use fdisk :) |
| 13:08.16 | txyz | pabs3: just in general |
| 13:08.45 | pabs3 | depends on the distro, SHR's illume theme has font and DPI settings |
| 13:08.52 | leila | quatrox, I only have the partitions not the device ? |
| 13:09.07 | txyz | pabs3: i dont have an OM yet, just considering because i think the screen is hard for the eye |
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| 13:10.18 | pabs3 | the om screen is way higher resolution than most laptop screens |
| 13:10.34 | quatrox | leila: which was my point |
| 13:10.53 | quatrox | I think the partitions are just predefined offsets |
| 13:10.56 | txyz | pabs3: i mean, with a small screen to do computer work or pdf reading , etc |
| 13:11.44 | leila | quatrox, that is what I am guessing |
| 13:12.31 | pabs3 | txyz: depends how close you put it to your eyes :) |
| 13:12.44 | quatrox | leila: those offsets are documented in the wiki |
| 13:12.52 | thrashold | And how close you can focus :D |
| 13:12.54 | txyz | pabs3: hehe true |
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| 13:13.47 | leila | quatrox, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_partitions ? |
| 13:13.57 | quatrox | leila: yes:D |
| 13:13.58 | SpeedEvil | txyz: The screen is _very_ good. |
| 13:14.11 | SpeedEvil | txyz: And you can use an 80*25 terminal not minimised. |
| 13:14.36 | SpeedEvil | txyz: however - that will cause all of the normal problems of text of that size - though the text itself is very clear. |
| 13:14.39 | SpeedEvil | (not maximised) |
| 13:15.19 | quatrox | leila: if you read about the different partitions, you see that one holds the offsets, one is for the kernel, etc |
| 13:15.24 | pabs3 | hmm, now why isn't my om showing up in lsusb |
| 13:15.24 | thrashold | It has one problem, though. You can use it with external light source, or even you can't used it in the presence of an external highly luminous light source :D (Though this is true for most screens these days) |
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| 13:16.17 | txyz | SpeedEvil: you could adjust text size of terminal/shell right |
| 13:16.27 | quatrox | leila: now I am on very thin ice but I would guess that you only need to modify something on the first partition |
| 13:18.21 | SpeedEvil | txyz: yes. |
| 13:18.33 | txyz | ok |
| 13:19.17 | leila | quatrox, most likely yes. And according to the bricked page that could be the env partition |
| 13:19.56 | quatrox | leila: that makes a lot of sense, yes |
| 13:20.52 | SpeedEvil | txyz: but of course - going to 'normal' phone sizes that you can read hile being bounced around on a bus, at arms length, might get 15*20 chars. |
| 13:22.02 | txyz | SpeedEvil: haha yes :) |
| 13:22.04 | leila | quatrox, The exact partition sizes are stored in the bootloader environment variable "mtdblocks" ... thus reflashing the bootloader and then the rootfs should work then I think |
| 13:23.22 | pabs3 | wonders why the NAND doesn't just have a normal partition table |
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| 13:23.48 | leila | pabs3, I think because it is NAND which is not a block device |
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| 13:26.16 | quatrox | leila: if everything fails, let me know and I will do a dd |
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| 13:28.37 | leila | quatrox, I am persistent ;) |
| 13:32.32 | leila | quatrox, that solved it... a 2 seconds flash ;) |
| 13:34.15 | quatrox | leila: just flashing u-boot? |
| 13:34.22 | quatrox | nice |
| 13:35.13 | leila | yup |
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| 15:25.35 | cichlid | hi i am using shr-unstable and once headset plugged the sound level in the headphones is REALLY low |
| 15:25.47 | cichlid | barely listenable |
| 15:26.27 | cichlid | i tryed to tweak the alsaconfig with shr-settings-mixer |
| 15:26.33 | cichlid | with no success ... |
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| 15:37.41 | Zorkman | did you turn up your headset volume? In the past it worked fine for me.. |
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| 15:38.26 | Wonka | *grrrr* |
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| 17:42.25 | SpeedEvil | Random: Does anyone happen to know what the protocol for deferring packets from a wirless AP when you've got your radio off is called? |
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| 17:54.16 | thrashold | Does/should such a protocol exist at all? |
| 17:54.45 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 17:54.47 | thrashold | Sounds like something not usable with TCP |
| 17:54.53 | SpeedEvil | You'd be wrong. |
| 17:55.04 | SpeedEvil | My 'new' thinkpad supports it. |
| 17:55.11 | SpeedEvil | As does my router - to my surprise |
| 17:55.27 | thrashold | Cause my first thought was... TCP would retransmit anyway... |
| 17:55.49 | SpeedEvil | the wireless card dumps state to system DRAM, and powers off - after notifying the router it's going to sleep for a bit. |
| 17:55.54 | SpeedEvil | and the router then queues data |
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| 17:56.20 | thrashold | interesting |
| 17:57.02 | SpeedEvil | As to should it exist - it saves lots of power |
| 17:57.18 | SpeedEvil | the wireless card only powers up for a few tens of milliseconds per poll. |
| 17:57.49 | thrashold | Ah, I see, this is for _short_ periods of powering off? |
| 17:58.12 | SpeedEvil | yes. |
| 17:58.27 | SpeedEvil | I was wondering as to a maximum time. |
| 17:58.56 | SpeedEvil | As I could see 60s actually being useful. (course it'd break if any quantity of data went through at all) |
| 17:59.50 | thrashold | 802.11e-2005 APSD ? |
| 18:01.30 | SpeedEvil | possibly yes - for some reason my google-fu was failing. Thanks |
| 18:04.27 | quatrox | SpeedEvil: IIRC, this will only work if the sync works good |
| 18:04.42 | quatrox | I used it on my laptop, and got all sorts of strang behavour |
| 18:05.11 | quatrox | like iwlist wlan0 s only got parts of the AP's mac |
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| 18:05.40 | quatrox | so it appeared with new mac for each scan |
| 18:06.04 | quatrox | *strang --> strange |
| 18:06.40 | SpeedEvil | yeah - course stuff will be buggy - I was wondering about how to find docs. I guess I should now see if I can find the standard, and read |
| 18:07.02 | quatrox | I only enabled it in the kernel when I played with it |
| 18:07.32 | quatrox | and it didn't play well with my (flashed) linksys AP |
| 18:08.11 | SpeedEvil | The ideal way would be for it to work with any random internet connected device - as long as you can reassociate fast. |
| 18:08.32 | quatrox | well, that was my problem |
| 18:08.58 | quatrox | when my card detected wrong mac, it could not associate |
| 18:09.28 | quatrox | I think the problem was that the driver didn't know how much time the card needed to power up |
| 18:10.13 | quatrox | but it would be very nice if it works on the neo |
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| 18:20.43 | thrashold | Would it be perverted if I really tried to put The Curse of Monkey Island on my FR, and tried to run it under ScummVM? :D |
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| 18:22.46 | pabs3 | according to the Anti-Whining thread others have done it, so it probably wouldn't |
| 18:24.16 | azaghal | thrashold: Nah, it'd be just hard to play :) |
| 18:24.18 | thrashold | OK, then I have plan B for being certified as a pervert: Put qemu-i386, and try to install Vista in it. :D |
| 18:24.39 | azaghal | That's not perverted... That's plan dumb... Ahem ;) |
| 18:24.42 | azaghal | *plain |
| 18:24.49 | azaghal | Joking, of course, no offense meant. |
| 18:24.54 | thrashold | :D |
| 18:25.04 | SpeedEvil | I'm wondering if FF will get to be runnable |
| 18:25.39 | SpeedEvil | Some things have sped up _drastically_ - and there has recently been work on actually being able to debug memory use of JS |
| 18:26.38 | thrashold | Isn't Midori much faster and leaner than FF? Because Midori is terribly slow for me on Debian (not sure if it is more usable on SHR) |
| 18:27.33 | Meomer | Plan B for Dumb? ;-) |
| 18:27.42 | thrashold | Of course, it is usable, i managed to browse Google Maps several weeks ago (on GPRS...) |
| 18:28.03 | thrashold | The bottleneck was Midori rendering the page, not the GPRS, of course :D |
| 18:29.10 | azaghal | I have a feeling webkit-based browsers might be better suited to such a small device. |
| 18:29.47 | thrashold | I think that xlinks works best :D |
| 18:31.00 | thrashold | (not exactly, it is somewhat slow for me in some cases) |
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| 19:16.44 | amitabhishek | hi everyone |
| 19:17.34 | amitabhishek | yesterday was my first day with freerunner |
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| 19:27.04 | Meomer | now that was a nice visit :) |
| 19:30.18 | PaulFertser | He was really exhausted, i guess. |
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| 21:30.29 | thrashold | The Curse of Monkey Island almost works fine |
| 21:32.20 | thrashold | Some parts (like the music) work better than in the first two parts |
| 21:32.28 | thrashold | And it is certainly playable |
| 21:32.28 | thrashold | :D |
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| 21:44.26 | Meomer | should mokonnect work right out of the box? |
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| 23:23.57 | mmaestri | anyone tried fso milestone 5.5? |
| 23:34.38 | mmaestri | ...is there "anyone" here...? |
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