| 00:02.05 | luca | well, so |
| 00:02.10 | luca | question time |
| 00:03.06 | luca | is it safe to dfu rootfs, then kernel and then qi together? |
| 00:03.21 | PaulFertser | luca: yes |
| 00:03.48 | PaulFertser | luca: just make sure you use proper "alternate" setting (means choose right NAND partition) when flashing. |
| 00:04.10 | luca | ok, where do i configure those settings? |
| 00:04.22 | luca | ah, you mean the -a flag |
| 00:04.34 | luca | -a kernel, -a rootfs, -a u-boot? |
| 00:05.05 | PaulFertser | luca: yes :) |
| 00:05.32 | luca | ok. i'll be back after flashing |
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| 00:10.17 | luca | PaulFertser, meanwhile, if you install a sustem to the uSD |
| 00:10.20 | luca | system* |
| 00:10.48 | luca | you only have to edit something similar to menu-lst or lilo.conf right? |
| 00:11.33 | PaulFertser | luca: Qi boots from uSD by default. |
| 00:11.49 | PaulFertser | luca: you just need to have ext2/ext3 partition with /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin file |
| 00:12.03 | PaulFertser | luca: this partition should hold rootfs too. |
| 00:12.16 | luca | mmm |
| 00:12.42 | luca | so i should only buy a sd-card reader and do it via my pc |
| 00:13.22 | PaulFertser | luca: you can also flash some (any) distro to NAND and do everything from FR. |
| 00:14.21 | luca | or do everything via ssh, yes.. |
| 00:14.38 | luca | but then, i lack some concepts |
| 00:14.52 | luca | if qi boots from uSD by default |
| 00:15.03 | luca | then what will I boot after SHR is done? |
| 00:15.16 | luca | how do I edit qi's menu? |
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| 00:15.29 | max_posedon | qi haven't any menu by design |
| 00:15.55 | luca | it tries all the disks? |
| 00:16.01 | max_posedon | yes |
| 00:16.20 | PaulFertser | luca: and you can skip uSD if you press AUX button at right time. |
| 00:17.00 | luca | that means going into the nand boot |
| 00:17.16 | luca | mh mh |
| 00:17.26 | luca | so i can have 2 systems installed |
| 00:17.27 | Blu3 | hold aux, then push power button in |
| 00:17.28 | PaulFertser | luca: you shouldn't boot from NOR (to run any distro) ever, it's old and has bugs. Suitable only for dfu. |
| 00:17.41 | PaulFertser | Blu3: i recommend not to boot any distro with NOR u-boot. |
| 00:17.51 | luca | i said the nand boot, not the nor boot |
| 00:18.02 | PaulFertser | luca: you just always boot Qi, sometimes press AUX when you want to skip uSD. |
| 00:18.09 | luca | (at least it's what i read in the wiki) |
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| 00:18.20 | PaulFertser | luca: i warned you just in case :) |
| 00:18.26 | luca | mh ok |
| 00:18.33 | luca | my uSD is empty now |
| 00:19.48 | PaulFertser | luca: i suggest you make one big ext3 partition there for your rootfs. |
| 00:20.16 | luca | after I get SHR running :) |
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| 00:21.23 | PaulFertser | luca: should be fairly easy |
| 00:21.48 | PaulFertser | luca: btw, Qi can't read the kernel from jffs2, so you need to flash kernel to the kernel partition if you use Qi to boot from NAND. |
| 00:21.49 | luca | ok, flashed |
| 00:22.00 | luca | hmmm |
| 00:22.06 | PaulFertser | (explaining the reasons behind all the procedures you do) |
| 00:22.11 | luca | i flashed the kernel with -a kernel |
| 00:22.26 | PaulFertser | Right |
| 00:23.04 | luca | now the little precious went off. power |
| 00:24.18 | luca | mm |
| 00:24.32 | luca | FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors |
| 00:24.58 | luca | VFS: can't find ext4 filesystem on dev mmcb1k0 |
| 00:25.40 | PaulFertser | luca: looks like you're booting from uSD |
| 00:25.44 | PaulFertser | luca: remove it from the device |
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| 00:25.59 | luca | ok |
| 00:26.18 | luca | ah no it booted |
| 00:27.23 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r89361b249e84 10/framework/subsystems/oeventsd/parser.py: oeventsd: add And function to parser |
| 00:27.24 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r744d1716f51c 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@git.freesmartphone.org:framework |
| 00:27.37 | PaulFertser | luca: ah, that was output from some bootscripts, ok |
| 00:27.48 | luca | :') good old htop |
| 00:28.34 | luca | hm pin |
| 00:29.07 | luca | it says there was an error loading a module |
| 00:30.41 | PaulFertser | luca: i'd recommend you to reboot once, there're some OE oddities wrt first boot. |
| 00:31.01 | PaulFertser | Anyway, sleep time for me, 4:30am already :/ |
| 00:31.28 | luca | ok, thanks a lot, you've been very useful |
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| 07:55.51 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: btw, caadr is not pure elisp, please either (require 'cl) or change caadr to something more transparent. |
| 07:56.03 | PaulFertser | My first fso.el bugreport, yay! |
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| 08:53.53 | Rakshasa | Hi, one question. Is the /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml attribute syntax written down somewhere, or do I have to start reading the source? |
| 09:01.06 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: it is |
| 09:01.20 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: syntax of the file is yaml, well documented elsewhere. |
| 09:02.04 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: it's supposed to be intuitively understandable :) |
| 09:02.43 | Rakshasa | but for example the availability of attr status/resume is documented somewhere too? |
| 09:03.37 | Rakshasa | I wanted to know if there is a status like "post-resume" or something similar. |
| 09:04.40 | Rakshasa | On the other hand. Does one still have to reconnect the bt-headset after suspend/resume, or does it just work? |
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| 09:05.24 | Rakshasa | on om2009.something. the latest one. |
| 09:07.59 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: i'm afraid one has to reconnect. And yes, for the list of available statuses you'll have to look at the sources. |
| 09:08.38 | Rakshasa | Okay, thanks. |
| 09:10.07 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: does your handset work ok? Have you added it to the wiki list? |
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| 09:17.06 | Rakshasa | You mean the headset? |
| 09:17.23 | Rakshasa | Yes, it works okay and I added it on the list of working ones. |
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| 09:19.18 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: great :) |
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| 09:21.30 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: you can refer to ticket http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/447 |
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| 09:49.21 | Rakshasa | Great, thanks PaulFertser |
| 09:50.30 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: now since users started to actually test bt headset support i'm sure FSO developers will pay more attention to make it comfortable and reliable. |
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| 09:58.41 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: ping |
| 10:02.42 | Rakshasa | PaulFertser: That would be nice. The only reason IÃ'm not using fr as my main phone is that the sound quality as a handset is way sub-par |
| 10:03.04 | Rakshasa | And a bt headset seems to solve it. |
| 10:03.56 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: are you a programmer? I think you can easily implement ad-hoc (or even) proper bt reconnection support after resume, frameworkd code seems to be easy enough to understand. |
| 10:04.33 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: as to the sound quality with built-in earpiece and mic, in my experience it is quite ok, i can't understand why people complain so much about it. |
| 10:05.39 | Rakshasa | Everyone that calls me, or whom I call, tells me they hear a loud echo and excessive amounts of buzz. |
| 10:05.48 | Rakshasa | I hear them just okay. |
| 10:06.06 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: :-O i assume your phone is buzz-fixed? |
| 10:06.13 | Rakshasa | And none of the proposed fixes have worked. |
| 10:06.31 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: how come? Buzzfixing solves buzz for good on all devices it was implemented. |
| 10:06.37 | Rakshasa | No, I haven't gotten around to getting it buzz-fixed. |
| 10:06.57 | Rakshasa | Should take it to an electronics repair shop some day. |
| 10:06.58 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: then it's unusable no matter what. Buzzfixing is not hard at all. |
| 10:07.55 | Rakshasa | Donät wanna break the phone myself. would rather let someone else break it and charge them for a new one. ^^ |
| 10:08.02 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: and btw, not a very decent advice but if you remove screwes from your FR it will lessen the echo considerably (i use my FR without screwes since november). |
| 10:08.46 | Rakshasa | Okay. A bit of an duct-tape fix. =P |
| 10:09.16 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: also you might want to turn earpiece volume down a little, that affects echo enourmously. OTOH with recent frameworkd and default settings, %N0187 is used that should eliminate almost all echo. |
| 10:09.42 | Rakshasa | The reason I haven't taken the phone to be buzzfixed is that the echo is still present, so buzzfix would just solve half of the problem and the phone would still be unusable. |
| 10:10.10 | dos1 | echo is easy to eliminate |
| 10:10.27 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: not really. Echo is definetely solvable by tweaking the earpiece volume. I can assure you that you can have it loud enough for you to hear and at the same time you won't have echo. |
| 10:10.30 | dos1 | just tweak speaker and microphone volume |
| 10:10.35 | Rakshasa | Last time I tried, even the 20% setting in paroli didn't get rid of the echo when I called my gf. |
| 10:10.55 | dos1 | Rakshasa: paroli changes volume in bad way :P |
| 10:11.01 | dos1 | try with alsamixer |
| 10:11.02 | Rakshasa | darn. |
| 10:12.13 | Rakshasa | PaulFertser: And yes, I am an programmer. Just not much of a python programmer, but I might end up making some kind of an hack to make the bt-hs to reconnect automagically. |
| 10:14.01 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: i don't know python too but surprisingly can understand frameworkd code ok (with a help of common sense and grep) |
| 10:14.41 | PaulFertser | Rakshasa: and sometimes echo is just unavoidable due to carrier issues. It happens with regular cellphones too. |
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| 10:16.46 | PaulFertser | dos1|away: paroli does it the way it does, i think it's ok for now (since we don't have a really proper way currently). And it should affect echo for sure. There just can't be acoustic feedback if the earpiece is cranked down really low. |
| 10:18.38 | Rakshasa | PaulFertser: Yes, my gf's new shiny samsung echoes quite often too. |
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| 10:30.04 | PaulFertser | vanous123: have you tried grepping frameworkd sources to see the answers for your oeventsd and related questions? |
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| 10:30.39 | vanous123 | PaulFertser: i have been looking through the docs but no luck |
| 10:30.54 | vanous123 | PaulFertser: haven't grepped through |
| 10:31.04 | vanous123 | PaulFertser: good suggestion |
| 10:31.50 | PaulFertser | vanous123: even i understand framework sources and i can't write anything in python myself. |
| 10:32.20 | vanous123 | PaulFertser: good for you. for me, this is the true in any programming language :) |
| 10:33.46 | vanous123 | PaulFertser: but actually, the bt stuff is in one single commit, i will look at it |
| 10:34.38 | vanous123 | will go for lunch |
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| 10:35.18 | vanous123 | nick vanous|away |
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| 10:40.13 | quatrox | DocScrutinizer2: ping |
| 10:41.15 | Meomer | is there a fool proof guide i must have missed on how to mount jffs2 images |
| 10:42.12 | quatrox | Meomer: cat /proc/filesystems |
| 10:43.04 | Meomer | nodev jffs2 |
| 10:43.13 | quatrox | good |
| 10:43.52 | quatrox | then just mount with -o loop |
| 10:45.56 | quatrox | not sure if this works from the neo without a swap partition |
| 10:46.49 | Meomer | oh, i'm trying to mount on the build host |
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| 10:49.00 | quatrox | Meomer: I thought one could do like this: mount -t jffs2 -o loop,ro image.jffs2 /mnt/cdrom |
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| 10:53.30 | Wonka | hmf. no AltGr in illume's keyboard? |
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| 10:55.04 | quatrox | Wonka: no but you can select one of the other kbd layouts to get those chars, iirc |
| 10:56.15 | Wonka | hm. that sucks, to be plain. |
| 10:56.59 | quatrox | i wish ctrl+alt acted like altGr |
| 10:57.15 | Wonka | i don't. |
| 10:57.57 | Wonka | the "terminal" layout is quite nice, but i don't have umlauts there |
| 10:58.14 | Wonka | "German" from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume is exactly "Default" plus Umlauts... |
| 10:58.43 | Wonka | and I cannot simply convert my matchbox-keyboard layout because that one uses altgr. |
| 10:58.56 | raster | its perfectly fine |
| 10:59.06 | raster | the point of other layouts is to cater to other languages |
| 10:59.42 | raster | mimicing a us qwerty workaround (altgr) where you can easily in a text config file add the keys you are missing - is just silly |
| 11:00.11 | Wonka | there's not enough real estate for a Compose key or something... |
| 11:00.18 | raster | its a gta02 |
| 11:00.26 | raster | there is not enough realestate full-stop |
| 11:00.35 | raster | its a useless device for a on-screen keyboard |
| 11:00.51 | raster | it's amazing that its usable in the slightest |
| 11:00.58 | Wonka | could be worse - there are QVGA devices :) |
| 11:01.03 | raster | wouldnt matter |
| 11:01.14 | raster | you effectively have a 2.4" screen |
| 11:01.20 | raster | resolution is irrelevant there |
| 11:01.24 | Wonka | as I said, on debian, I use a self-built matchbox-keyboard layout with altgr, and that works just finde |
| 11:01.27 | Wonka | fine |
| 11:01.37 | raster | i doubt it works at all |
| 11:01.42 | raster | you have no stilus with the device |
| 11:01.52 | raster | it has no place to hold one - it is built to be used with fingers |
| 11:01.58 | Wonka | my fingertips seem to be small enough |
| 11:02.04 | raster | good luck using keyboards on 2.4" worth of touch space |
| 11:02.05 | dos1 | Wonka: ++ |
| 11:02.15 | dos1 | i'm using illume terminal with my fingernails just fine |
| 11:02.20 | Wonka | pinky with not too short nail... |
| 11:02.33 | Wonka | not too hard pencil |
| 11:02.41 | dos1 | most of shr-settings, shr-installer and opimd code was created using illume terminal without any stylus :P |
| 11:02.42 | Wonka | door key |
| 11:02.42 | raster | i have a g1 with its vkbd (which doesnt correct) and its 3.4" - and its impossible to type any searches on it |
| 11:03.02 | dos1 | g1 = capacitive screen |
| 11:03.06 | Wonka | there are many improvised styli |
| 11:03.09 | raster | its actually more accurate |
| 11:03.17 | dos1 | i don't like capacitive screens |
| 11:03.28 | raster | (capacitive) you get a much better surface region detect |
| 11:03.32 | dos1 | i can be more accurate with resistive than capacitive ;P |
| 11:03.34 | raster | and it jitters immensely less |
| 11:04.02 | raster | it also responds to very light touch - resitive requires a fingernail or stylus or hard pressing by fingers |
| 11:04.20 | Wonka | .oO( or having device in pocket ) |
| 11:04.28 | Wonka | .oO( BTDT ) |
| 11:04.32 | dos1 | Wonka: no |
| 11:04.42 | dos1 | Wonka: that's advantage of capacitive screens |
| 11:04.55 | dos1 | but personally i prefer resistive :P |
| 11:05.50 | dos1 | screen working like capacitive, but which can be used with fingernails would be perfect for me |
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| 11:08.27 | Wonka | anyway. should be possible to "lock" shift key by pressing longer, or something, and then change capslock key to compose... |
| 11:09.42 | quatrox | then you cannot compose upper case chars |
| 11:10.11 | dos1 | quatrox: shit? :P |
| 11:10.15 | dos1 | OMFG |
| 11:10.17 | dos1 | s/shit/shift/ |
| 11:10.19 | dos1 | :D |
| 11:10.31 | dos1 | nice typo ^^ |
| 11:10.32 | quatrox | better to change the ctrl |
| 11:10.38 | dos1 | nooo |
| 11:10.47 | dos1 | ctrl is way more usable than caps lock |
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| 11:11.06 | quatrox | if shift is locked, can you still use shift to get upper case? |
| 11:11.25 | dos1 | quatrox: why not? |
| 11:11.32 | dos1 | raaaasteeeeeer |
| 11:11.37 | dos1 | i had a question :( |
| 11:11.45 | quatrox | too late |
| 11:11.52 | Meomer | hmm, i went through the steps in Mntjffs.sh and if i do them myself one by one it seems to work |
| 11:12.40 | Wonka | quatrox: why not? shift is still there... |
| 11:12.46 | Wonka | ups |
| 11:13.03 | quatrox | Wonka: well... ok:) |
| 11:13.19 | quatrox | sounds like a good idea |
| 11:13.45 | Wonka | quatrox: i meant "make shift lockable to make capslock obsolete" |
| 11:13.58 | Wonka | quatrox: locked shift == capslock |
| 11:13.59 | quatrox | ohh |
| 11:14.13 | Wonka | quatrox: pressing shift while capslock is on is futile anyway... |
| 11:14.35 | quatrox | I thought you wanted a new layout when shift was locked |
| 11:14.49 | quatrox | and then switch back when it was unlocked |
| 11:15.18 | Wonka | nonono |
| 11:15.24 | quatrox | hmm |
| 11:15.40 | quatrox | that would give us more keys |
| 11:15.43 | quatrox | and more mess |
| 11:16.04 | Wonka | hm. i might make screenshots of my matchbox-kbd layout... with altgr... |
| 11:16.13 | quatrox | but replace caps lock with compose is a thing I also want |
| 11:16.46 | Wonka | I especially like how the arrow keys are not in one row there but "as you know it" from real keyboard |
| 11:16.49 | Wonka | s |
| 11:16.58 | quatrox | nice |
| 11:18.03 | Psi | i take it his talk about shift/capslock is to do with the reason they both dont currently work on shr unstable? |
| 11:18.10 | Psi | his=this |
| 11:18.40 | dos1 | Psi: wtf? they work correctly |
| 11:18.55 | Psi | maybe its only on the gta01 image |
| 11:18.55 | dos1 | Psi: that's discussion about accents |
| 11:18.57 | quatrox | the problem is that we lack the compose key |
| 11:19.35 | Wonka | works correctly here too (GTA02) |
| 11:19.43 | Psi | for me on 20090703 shr gta01 unstable. If i try and do a capital letter using the onscreen kbd i get lowercase |
| 11:20.01 | Wonka | 20090710 here |
| 11:20.08 | quatrox | Wonka: Imagine that pushing alt for a longer time, you get altgr |
| 11:20.24 | quatrox | and pushing ctrl for some time, you get compose |
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| 11:20.36 | Wonka | could work |
| 11:20.57 | Wonka | pushing shift for longer makes capslock |
| 11:21.21 | quatrox | ok |
| 11:21.33 | Meomer | you also need a pestering dialog to tell you that you've pressed shift for a long time ;-) |
| 11:21.40 | Wonka | Meomer: LOL |
| 11:21.51 | Wonka | Meomer: or hit shift for five times in a row |
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| 11:22.03 | quatrox | hmm |
| 11:22.03 | Wonka | Meomer: so you can now use your nose for input or something |
| 11:22.07 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r914acd34372c 10/patches/callback-typedefs-for-edje.patch: add patch against edje to make post Vala 0.7.4 work |
| 11:22.12 | quatrox | this reminds me of windows |
| 11:22.13 | Wonka | .oO( or find your cursor ) |
| 11:22.19 | Wonka | quatrox: so what :) |
| 11:22.30 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * rd8a558b58a45 10/vapi/eina.vapi: eina.vapi: fix callback names for Vala 0.7.4 |
| 11:22.50 | quatrox | when I write something, I sometimes hold down shift while I think about the what to write |
| 11:22.57 | quatrox | because I will write a big letter |
| 11:23.08 | Wonka | quatrox: you can train yourself to not do that |
| 11:23.10 | Meomer | so, seems like block2mtd wasn't very happy with the loopback mounted jffs2 image residing on an nfs import |
| 11:23.35 | Wonka | Meomer: that sounds evil. |
| 11:23.43 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r3c64cf9df6f9 10/vapi/edje.vapi: edje.vapi: add callback names (NOTE: needs patched edje for now) |
| 11:23.53 | Wonka | Meomer: you do not need to do such things just because they seem technically possible ;) |
| 11:24.14 | quatrox | lol |
| 11:24.48 | quatrox | it is also possible to make your buildhost a combined buildhost and fireplace |
| 11:24.56 | quatrox | but I would not recommend it |
| 11:25.19 | Meomer | though there are arguments speaking for the warm and fuzzy feeling |
| 11:27.05 | Wonka | there seem to be ways to make other keyboards for illume... see GridPad and stuff... |
| 11:27.42 | Wonka | i might try to build something out of matchbox-keyboard and raster's illume-keyboard someday... |
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| 11:30.29 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r3981b0e4b41a 10/vapi/evas.vapi: evas: add type for Evas Callback (NOTE: needs patched evas for now) |
| 11:30.30 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * rd42c423defd9 10/patches/ (2 files): add patch for evas |
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| 11:31.45 | FiXion_ | Wonka: you can write your own keyboard - it's just a text file defining the keys. |
| 11:32.18 | FiXion_ | packages like danish-illume, swedish-illume etc. contains keyboard examples for those countries |
| 11:33.37 | Wonka | FiXion_: doesn't help - i would need to add keys to the already stuffed "Terminal" layout. |
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| 11:48.17 | FiXion_ | Wonka: there's only so much screenspace :) |
| 11:48.53 | leinir | *cough* landscape *cough* ;) |
| 11:50.38 | Wonka | FiXion_: that's why I want AltGr or at least Compose |
| 11:52.33 | Wonka | mh... java on FR... for sip-communicator.org... |
| 11:52.37 | Wonka | *dream* |
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| 12:25.28 | Wonka | dos1: by the way, my trusty old Siemens S65 has the OK softbutton for PIN entry on the right side, directly above the "red phone", while the "backspace" softkey to erase a PIN digit is on the left, over the "green phone" button... |
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| 12:27.47 | Mortak | hi |
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| 13:42.36 | Darkas | hi |
| 13:42.50 | tobii_ | hi |
| 13:43.04 | Darkas | I'm having a few problems with programs I want to build from recent svn |
| 13:43.11 | Darkas | for example gestures |
| 13:44.09 | Darkas | there seems to be a missing file: /libaccelsNeo/src/Makefile.in |
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| 13:45.16 | Darkas | is there anything known? or are there maybe installation instructions I missed? |
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| 13:48.48 | Darkas | or should I rather use an older version (it seems like there isn't any development anymore) |
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| 14:17.06 | vanous | on shr-u, I am trying to switch to fso-abyss now, but what goes into frameworkd.conf instead of gsm0710muxd? ti_calypso_muxer = fso-abyss or libgsm0710mux or libgsm0710... none seem to really be the option... |
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| 14:20.40 | vanous | hmm, seems like fso-abyss... will try to reboot, rather then fso restart |
| 14:25.13 | vanous | reboot did it :) |
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| 14:43.06 | Darkas | hm, as it seems there's nobody who knows something about gestures, is there maybe a mail address of the author somewhere? I searched on many sites related to this but I haven'd found one... |
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| 15:56.31 | johnsu01 | PaulFertser: pong |
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| 16:05.15 | laotseu | :c |
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| 16:17.57 | SevenDays | hi, i've got trouble connecting to the wlan with my fr.so far i've tried udhcpc and static address. i see that the fr mac address pops up in my AP table of connected devices, but i can't ping the router even if the fr is getting its address via dhcp |
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| 16:19.53 | SevenDays | the routing table seems fine too. |
| 16:22.32 | SevenDays | in the /etc/networking/interfaces i have edited the eth0 stanza: iface eth0 inet dhcp wireless_mode managed wireless_essid any |
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| 16:32.50 | SevenDays | iptables are empty too. i still got an ip address via dhcp but can't ping the router itsellf. it is becoming really weird |
| 16:38.36 | laotseu | strange |
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| 16:39.01 | laotseu | what's the output of iwconfig eth0 ? |
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| 16:57.22 | SevenDays | laotseu, it says that it is connected to essid "default" (my essid), mode managed, repotrs the AP mac address and bit rate 6 Mb/s |
| 16:57.58 | SpeedEvil | SevenDays: wpa? |
| 16:58.17 | SpeedEvil | If so, you need to have an appropriately configured wpa_celebrant |
| 16:58.22 | SpeedEvil | or whatever it's called. |
| 16:58.23 | SevenDays | no, open with mac filtering (the moko map is in the table) |
| 16:58.25 | SpeedEvil | supplicant |
| 16:58.43 | SpeedEvil | static or dynamic IP? |
| 16:58.48 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 16:59.19 | SevenDays | dynamic, and it got the IP correctly: 10.0.0.102, when the router is 10.0.0.1, with udhcpc |
| 17:01.21 | SevenDays | (netmask 255.255.255.0, as usual) |
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| 17:04.29 | SevenDays | well, i edited some AP properties allowing all tx rates and all modes |
| 17:05.09 | SevenDays | did ifconfig eth0 down, ifconfig eth0 up, iwconfig eth0 essid default, udhcpc eth0 |
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| 17:05.53 | SevenDays | got the same ip as before, from 10.0.0.1, and still can't ping 10.0.0.1 |
| 17:07.07 | SevenDays | now i'm clueless. i tried static and dynamic, route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 10.0.0.1 |
| 17:07.17 | SevenDays | route add default gw 10.0.0.1 |
| 17:07.27 | SevenDays | iptables empty |
| 17:08.01 | SevenDays | i see no reason for the moko not pinging the router |
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| 17:11.21 | SpeedEvil | Do you get any error messages on hte router? |
| 17:11.34 | SpeedEvil | I assume you can't ping from the other side? |
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| 17:15.16 | SevenDays | SpeedEvil, no: from my computer i get Destination Host Unreachable errors |
| 17:16.53 | SevenDays | now i launched shr-settings via terminal |
| 17:17.02 | SevenDays | unloaded and loaded wifi |
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| 17:17.40 | SevenDays | i got an error |
| 17:18.34 | SevenDays | from pythonwifi.iwlibs import Wireless, getNICnames import error - not present |
| 17:21.21 | SevenDays | well, still no idea |
| 17:21.59 | SevenDays | it doesn't even ping itself, the little toy |
| 17:28.11 | SevenDays | it does. |
| 17:33.28 | SevenDays | ok, so far i have been able to obtain an ip address, but not able to ping the router. |
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| 17:37.10 | SevenDays | i have tried all I could try, red all the manpages of route and iptables and found no issues there so I need to know if SHR does some strange things attempting to configure the wlan |
| 17:38.01 | SevenDays | since it must work for others i don't think this could be broken.i', with 2.6.29-rc2 kernel |
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| 17:42.56 | SevenDays | now i'll try setting up a usb bridging |
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| 17:51.38 | Slaxxer | i guess u rebooted 1 time? |
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| 17:56.28 | SevenDays | i rebooted many times , Slaxxer :) |
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| 18:01.21 | pabs3 | anyone know where to download an FDOM rootfs? the ones on the tuxbrain site don't seem to be accessible |
| 18:02.15 | pabs3 | hmm, even the FDOMizer isn't accessible |
| 18:04.59 | dos1 | pabs3: FDOM is based on om2008, which is old and unsupported |
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| 18:05.41 | pabs3 | I realise that |
| 18:06.48 | pabs3 | the wiki pages referencing it probably need to be updated though |
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| 19:02.10 | Slaxxer | pabs bytestore had a nice jffs2 file that had a black background keyboard that was loaded |
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| 19:50.27 | Darkas | hi |
| 19:50.44 | Darkas | does anybody know how much developing there is on gestures? |
| 19:51.39 | Darkas | becasue there is no update in the git repositories since beginning of this year |
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| 19:57.31 | RamsesFSFE | which system would you recommend? I was very content with FDOM but had problems with my SIM with it. |
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| 21:36.12 | pabs3 | ok, FDOM rootfs tarball is on crack |
| 21:36.26 | pabs3 | WTFs and downs some more vino |
| 21:39.27 | pabs3 | JESUS HOLY CHRIST ON A STICK THIS IS FUCKED UP |
| 21:40.58 | pabs3 | apologises for the outburst |
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| 22:25.19 | Slaxxer | http://openmoko.spb.ru/download/file.php?id=13 |
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| 22:42.50 | mjr | anyone tried compcache btw on the neo? |
| 22:43.07 | mjr | ie. would it help or hinder in practice |
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| 22:59.23 | mmaestri | hi |
| 22:59.34 | mmaestri | where can i get the latest shr images? |
| 23:00.40 | dos1 | mmaestri: they are building |
| 23:00.49 | dos1 | new unstable and testing images should be tomorrow |
| 23:00.57 | dos1 | (fso ms5.5 also) |
| 23:01.12 | dos1 | mmaestri: http://build.shr-project.org/ |
| 23:04.36 | RamsesFSFE | which system would you recommend? |
| 23:10.48 | mmaestri | thanks dos1 |
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| 23:18.48 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07specs * r4b5c42fbb825 10/org.freesmartphone.PIM/ (6 files): Update opimd specs |
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| 23:34.52 | quatrox | DocScrutinizer2: ping |
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| 23:48.23 | luca__ | hi, i seriously think the new u-boot is not working, at least on my openmoko freerunner. i already tried twice and it gives me static on the screen, while qi works well for me. am i doing something wrong? It must be said that if i do a nor boot and then select "boot" option, it is working fine. |
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| 23:49.39 | luca__ | i took the u-boot version from http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ |
| 23:50.11 | luca__ | (same place where i got om2009) |
| 23:56.22 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * rfc6aad5fce8e 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sqlite_messages.py: opimd: SQLite-Messages: add indexes to database |