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| 04:50.41 | __Jan__ | <mwester> __Jan__, check the openembedded mailing list archives; the issue has been seen before but I don't recall the resolution. I think it has something to do with your build host. <-- good catch! and now it fails at the last package! from 1850...... cruel world. |
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| 04:53.34 | __Jan__ | test |
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| 05:06.03 | __Jan__ | hrhr i love google: |
| 05:06.04 | __Jan__ | May 13 18:56:03 <mrmoku> ERROR: Error in executing: /home/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/efl1/evas_svn.bb |
| 05:06.05 | __Jan__ | May 13 18:56:09 <dos1> mrmoku: ^^"""""""" |
| 05:06.05 | __Jan__ | May 13 18:59:08 <dos1> mrmoku: i hope it's easy to fix ;) |
| 05:06.11 | __Jan__ | now i have exactly that problem ;) |
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| 05:06.38 | __Jan__ | May 13 19:03:49 <mrmoku> dos1: yeah... bitbake -c clean helped :P |
| 05:06.40 | __Jan__ | *grml* |
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| 06:39.18 | ndnihil | http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8396/95043615.jpg |
| 06:39.21 | ndnihil | wonder what cpu |
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| 06:40.35 | ndnihil | looks like it runs android |
| 06:41.51 | ndnihil | upport for two SIM cards inside the same phone. |
| 06:42.04 | ndnihil | s/^u/Su/g |
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| 06:42.59 | ndnihil | Mediatek MT6225 processor (ARM 7EJ-S core) capable of running at 26, 52, or 104 MHz. |
| 06:43.03 | ndnihil | screen sucks |
| 06:43.06 | ndnihil | 240x320 |
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| 06:43.25 | UndrWater | similar to iphone no? |
| 06:43.34 | ndnihil | that's the goal I suppose |
| 06:43.39 | ndnihil | cheap knockoff made in china |
| 06:43.50 | UndrWater | i like knockoffs |
| 06:43.55 | UndrWater | sometmes better than original |
| 06:44.11 | ndnihil | sometimes, but I'm not getting that vibe from this one |
| 06:44.24 | ndnihil | I do like the dual sim support though |
| 06:44.36 | ndnihil | I'd love it if I could carry just one phone |
| 06:45.28 | UndrWater | it does need more technical info |
| 06:45.34 | ndnihil | http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Sciphone-i68.html |
| 06:45.35 | ndnihil | some listed there |
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| 06:47.04 | ndnihil | http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Sciphone-N12.html |
| 06:47.07 | ndnihil | the n12 version looks better |
| 06:47.13 | ndnihil | and has some buttons |
| 06:47.20 | ndnihil | and wifi |
| 06:47.24 | ndnihil | though the screen still sucks |
| 06:47.28 | ndnihil | 240x400 |
| 06:47.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | quad gsm is nice. |
| 06:47.41 | ndnihil | it's 3g though |
| 06:48.04 | ndnihil | doesn't look like it has dual sim though |
| 06:48.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | although telstra abuses 850 here, so wonder how it would handle that |
| 06:48.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | ah, 3gs less interesting |
| 06:48.26 | ndnihil | I wouldn't mind having 3g |
| 06:48.33 | ndnihil | faster interwebs! |
| 06:48.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | no reliable 3g around here |
| 06:48.50 | ndnihil | ah, plenty here |
| 06:49.04 | ndnihil | it'll fall back to GSM |
| 06:49.18 | ndnihil | well, most do |
| 06:49.23 | ndnihil | don't know about that one specifically |
| 06:50.13 | ndnihil | if it had a better display and dual sim |
| 06:50.17 | ndnihil | I'd get one just to play with |
| 06:52.51 | ndnihil | http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.511 |
| 06:52.51 | ndnihil | wow |
| 06:52.56 | ndnihil | tons of dual sim phones |
| 06:54.44 | ndnihil | aphone, ifone, nokla |
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| 06:54.47 | ndnihil | this is funny |
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| 06:57.23 | UndrWater | those are funny |
| 06:57.26 | UndrWater | ifone...cute |
| 06:57.37 | ndnihil | did you see the one shaped like a chinese mickey mouse head? |
| 06:57.46 | UndrWater | link? |
| 06:57.49 | ndnihil | http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25132 |
| 06:58.04 | ndnihil | like kids need dual sim... |
| 06:58.59 | UndrWater | it's china...they have to work |
| 06:59.15 | UndrWater | who else will make our nikes? |
| 06:59.23 | ndnihil | true |
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| 07:01.13 | tobii_ | lol the casedesign |
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| 07:03.32 | ndnihil | I'll have to ask my buddy in .no about strange charges on his card |
| 07:03.41 | ndnihil | he orders from dealextreme every so often |
| 07:03.53 | ndnihil | not too sure about them myself |
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| 07:06.25 | ndnihil | green laser modules for $16 |
| 07:10.17 | ndnihil | due to new regulations enforced by the US FDA and PayPal, orders of >5mW lasers units shipped to the United States are no longer accepted. |
| 07:10.20 | ndnihil | weak |
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| 09:33.51 | jc | PaulFertser: ping |
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| 09:57.05 | PaulFertser | jc: pong |
| 09:58.08 | jc | PaulFertser: how's the certificate issue? |
| 10:00.55 | PaulFertser | jc: i'm afraid it's still the same: "The certificate expired on 01.07.2009 19:00" |
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| 10:04.42 | jc | PaulFertser: gismo is aware of that already, he is working on that:) should be fixed at any time. |
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| 10:05.31 | PaulFertser | jc: so everything is cool and fine then, thanks for caring :) |
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| 10:08.20 | PaulFertser | dreams of making his FR really usable with fine-tuned emacs for everything (calls, smses, irc, jabber, email, nntp)... |
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| 10:09.35 | PaulFertser | jc: does gismo plan to somehow confirm that OM is OM etc to get a long-living certificate instead? |
| 10:10.36 | PaulFertser | As 6 months is a bit too short for an OM wiki. |
| 10:14.15 | jc | PaulFertser: currently that is self signed certificate. |
| 10:14.50 | jc | before i got canned, we plan to switch that to commercial one. |
| 10:15.19 | PaulFertser | jc: currently it's cacert.org certificate, it seems |
| 10:15.45 | jc | PaulFertser: that what I mean, non-commercial one. |
| 10:15.46 | PaulFertser | jc: i don't think you should go commercial, just prove your identity to cacert and you'll get a long-term certificate free. |
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| 10:16.09 | jc | PaulFertser: I will talk with gismo about this. |
| 10:16.56 | PaulFertser | jc: i think cacert.org is quite ok and i don't think OM should pay anything to those commercial issuers :S |
| 10:18.47 | DocScrutinizer | hi jc :-) |
| 10:19.57 | jc | DocScrutinizer: how are you doing? |
| 10:20.41 | DocScrutinizer | jc: short of decent jobs, which means the boring parts in live getting bold |
| 10:21.32 | jc | DocScrutinizer: me too. :( looking for a fun place to work. |
| 10:22.04 | DocScrutinizer | jc: I'm considering to move to Brazil ;-) |
| 10:22.57 | jc | PaulFertser: I will talk the "duration" issue with gismo. Since we are not full time with the system now, we have to do something else. |
| 10:23.27 | jc | DocScrutinizer: Brazil, sounds great. |
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| 10:23.38 | jc | DocScrutinizer: how does this come out? |
| 10:24.04 | DocScrutinizer | seems it's becoming a nice place for free phones lately |
| 10:24.53 | DocScrutinizer | thanks to maddog and a Professor there |
| 10:25.04 | PaulFertser | jc: sure, thanks |
| 10:25.23 | jc | DocScrutinizer: I am more interested in the rain forest.:) |
| 10:26.06 | DocScrutinizer | duh, what to do with trees? (if those aren't btrees) |
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| 10:44.10 | tig| | if a btree falls in a forest and no-one is around does it make an entry in the syslog? :) |
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| 10:49.25 | PaulFertser | tig|: :) |
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| 11:16.51 | PaulFertser | Funny thing, so many talks about non-working bluetooth and the only incompatible headset found so far is the one i borrowed from friend. |
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| 11:21.25 | damkor | I'm using debian on my fr right now and I'm wondering: how difficult would it be to use openmoko 2009 (well, most of it, or something that shares a lot with it) on top of debian |
| 11:22.06 | damkor | I mean, from the user point of view, om is just some menus and apps. How difficult would it be to port those menus and apps to debian? |
| 11:22.06 | dos1 | damkor: it's python, it should be damn easy |
| 11:22.16 | PaulFertser | dos1: provided elementary is new enough |
| 11:22.24 | PaulFertser | dos1: or one has to compile it from sources. |
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| 11:22.46 | dos1 | yep |
| 11:23.06 | damkor | PaulFertser: that's what happened to me, I'm trying to compile things from source and it goes dead slow |
| 11:23.32 | damkor | and I'm thinking: I really cannot be the only person who would want this. somebody must have tried before me. |
| 11:24.37 | PaulFertser | damkor: are you compiling on FR itself? |
| 11:24.44 | damkor | I started with something really simple (the image viewer/navigator), but no success so far :( |
| 11:24.52 | PaulFertser | damkor: i've tried today distcc and it went surprisingly well. |
| 11:25.03 | PaulFertser | damkor: apt-get install distcc on both fr and your host. |
| 11:25.20 | damkor | PaulFertser: that's very good news. Do I have to configure anything for cross-compiling |
| 11:25.21 | damkor | ? |
| 11:25.58 | PaulFertser | damkor: install a cross compiler with emdebian, damn easy. |
| 11:26.31 | damkor | PaulFertser: aha! will do. thanks for that pointer |
| 11:27.28 | PaulFertser | damkor: before compiling on FR do "export CC='distcc arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc'" |
| 11:28.27 | PaulFertser | damkor: also "export DISTCC_HOSTS=192.168.0.200" (debian's version is 2.8x so quick instructions from distcc site do not exactly work). |
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| 11:32.14 | PaulFertser | damkor: here's the link that explains how to do it in details (they use qemu but you can use your FR as well): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Development_Environment#Building_debian_packages_with_qemu_and_cross-compiling_distccs |
| 11:32.31 | damkor | I see |
| 11:33.23 | PaulFertser | damkor: please report the results of you experiments (how much time does it take what did you need to build etc.) |
| 11:33.46 | damkor | PaulFertser: I tried using qemu (arm based) but it took me just as long to compile the packages inside the virtual machine than in the FR |
| 11:33.54 | damkor | PaulFertser: I will |
| 11:34.51 | PaulFertser | damkor: emacs23 takes fucking long to compile :( distcc helps only first part, all the *.el's are byte-compiled on FR and it's slooow. |
| 11:35.43 | PaulFertser | damkor: i'll try to share the resulting packages if it will build... |
| 11:36.37 | damkor | PaulFertser: and so will I (the resulting .deb packages, should I port any tool to debian) |
| 11:37.25 | damkor | will be away for an hour, pretending social relations do matter |
| 11:37.54 | Wonka | i'd like (OM-related) debian packages that are a little more current all over... |
| 11:38.04 | Wonka | frameworkd, ophonekitd, ... |
| 11:39.12 | Wonka | ATM, i'm launching ophonekitd in debian via chroot to a shr fs tree |
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| 11:56.51 | shamelessn00b | hello, has anyone successfully ported android on openmoke freerunner |
| 11:57.06 | shamelessn00b | openmoko* |
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| 11:57.48 | dos1 | shamelessn00b: ages ago |
| 11:57.52 | dos1 | shamelessn00b: cupcake is working |
| 11:58.04 | dos1 | shamelessn00b: look at koolu website |
| 11:58.06 | SM2k | we had a couple units shipped with android from a vendor. the keyboard didn't work properly, so we simply flashed them mokos and put SHR on it |
| 11:58.18 | shamelessn00b | Im having problem running the wifi module |
| 11:59.44 | shamelessn00b | it was working absolutely fine with kernel version 1.0, I have problem with running it on ver 1.5 |
| 11:59.51 | shamelessn00b | any ideas? |
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| 12:03.01 | shameless2 | sorry I have electricity issues |
| 12:03.12 | shameless2 | so, any clue on what might be worng |
| 12:03.59 | shameless2 | why ain't the wifi working on ver 1.5 |
| 12:04.00 | DocScrutinizer | kernel ver 1.0 o.O looooong time ago I seen that |
| 12:04.35 | SpeedEvil | I don't think that even supported ethernet |
| 12:04.40 | SpeedEvil | diddn't that come with 1.2.13 |
| 12:04.52 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 12:06.09 | shameless2 | i've tested koolu beta 7 |
| 12:06.11 | DocScrutinizer | wifi surely was flaky at best even on 2.2 |
| 12:06.43 | shameless2 | thefirmeware is 1.0 but the wifi worked absoluted fine |
| 12:07.11 | shameless2 | can u please share android images with version 1.5 and wifi |
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| 12:10.12 | shameless2 | SpeedEvil, so how do I go about troubleshooting the issue? |
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| 12:13.00 | laotseu | i've installed applications with opkg and like to changes icons displayed on my illume desktop, what is the cleanest way ? |
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| 12:16.36 | FiXion_ | laotseu: afaik the only way is altering the contents of /usr/share/applications |
| 12:16.43 | FiXion_ | perhaps there's some user specific settings though |
| 12:19.33 | lindi- | FiXion_: aiee, users should not configure things in /usr :( |
| 12:19.55 | laotseu | lindi-: i agree with you :) |
| 12:20.14 | laotseu | but it seems to be a working solution ... is there another ? |
| 12:20.20 | shameless2 | .!. |
| 12:20.22 | laotseu | a per user config ? |
| 12:21.19 | lindi- | laotseu: icewm |
| 12:22.10 | laotseu | no way to do it using illume ? i like enlightenment :) |
| 12:22.19 | lindi- | laotseu: no idea |
| 12:22.23 | laotseu | hum ok |
| 12:22.31 | lindi- | laotseu: in icewm I have ~/.icewm/ |
| 12:23.00 | lindi- | laotseu: how can you ever use a window manager where you don't know how to add menu entries as non-root? :/ |
| 12:24.29 | laotseu | i only use illume/e on my openmoko as i like its "behaviour" (not sure of the word, i'm not engligh fluent), on my computers, i prefer to use ratpoison :) |
| 12:26.10 | laotseu | and to be honest i've my openmoko since 1 week, i haven't search deeply for other window manager at the moment |
| 12:27.04 | lindi- | laotseu: freerunner is a computer |
| 12:27.18 | lindi- | laotseu: please don't underestimate it :) |
| 12:27.37 | Elleo | you wouldn't want to you ratpoison on the freerunner though ;) |
| 12:27.46 | laotseu | don't worry, i know, but ratpoison on a computer/cell phone shoud be strange to use |
| 12:27.50 | Elleo | not unless you planned on carrying a usb/bluetooth keyboard everywhere with you |
| 12:27.57 | laotseu | Elleo: right |
| 12:28.06 | Elleo | also, laotseu++ for being a ratpoison users \o/ |
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| 12:58.11 | rhaeder | hi. I have paroli-testing5, do I need to edit my rules.yaml file as described here? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Rules_file |
| 12:58.34 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: just check if necessary stuff is there. |
| 12:58.38 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: it's quite obvious |
| 12:59.00 | rhaeder | the part Call -> Audio Scenario Handling is not in my file |
| 12:59.02 | rhaeder | :( |
| 12:59.52 | rhaeder | I have paroli-testing5 |
| 13:01.12 | rhaeder | and hid2hci is not launched |
| 13:01.21 | rhaeder | only bluetoothd |
| 13:02.23 | rhaeder | so can I just add that part to my rules.yaml file? |
| 13:02.47 | rhaeder | and which exactly do you mean? I have two in /etc/freesmartphone/ |
| 13:03.43 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: hid2hci is something that is not needed currently. |
| 13:03.52 | damkor | does anyone have any experience using haskell on the FR? |
| 13:04.33 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: ./oevents/rules.yaml |
| 13:04.34 | rhaeder | hcitool dev does not ouput any hciX devices |
| 13:04.38 | rhaeder | ok |
| 13:04.49 | rhaeder | I add that to the wiki page :) |
| 13:04.57 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: that's because you don't have BT resource requested. |
| 13:04.58 | rhaeder | or can you do it? |
| 13:05.09 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: i'll do |
| 13:05.20 | rhaeder | ok, then the wiki page is a bit more clear ;) |
| 13:05.43 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: it's supposed to be obvious ;) |
| 13:05.56 | rhaeder | but anyway the other file ./opreferences/schema/rules.yaml doesn't look for the right file ;) |
| 13:06.03 | rhaeder | ;) |
| 13:07.56 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: if you succeed please add a note to the wiki that paroli-testing5 is also supported. |
| 13:09.29 | rhaeder | ok, will do |
| 13:09.34 | rhaeder | but first I need a device ;) |
| 13:09.46 | rhaeder | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Rules_file <-- I added that to my rules.yaml file |
| 13:09.57 | rhaeder | cat add >> /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml |
| 13:10.09 | rhaeder | by "add" contains the whole block |
| 13:10.22 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: you're supposed to tweak the config, not to add to it. |
| 13:11.10 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: please double check the resulting file is sane before going further. |
| 13:11.20 | rhaeder | hmmm, I didn't find it |
| 13:11.39 | rhaeder | # Call -> Audio Scenario Handling <-- I don't have such section in my rules file |
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| 13:13.59 | rhaeder | that suspend bug drives you insane :( |
| 13:14.03 | dos1 | rhaeder: that's not section, just comment |
| 13:14.12 | rhaeder | my USB network connection got always booted out :( |
| 13:14.17 | rhaeder | I know |
| 13:14.22 | rhaeder | dos1: I know |
| 13:14.28 | dos1 | rhaeder: and comments can be different ;p |
| 13:14.49 | rhaeder | I even checked for IncomingMessage in the same file, no luck |
| 13:14.57 | rhaeder | I'm not that dump ;) |
| 13:16.35 | rhaeder | it is contained in old_rules.yaml :( |
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| 13:18.56 | rhaeder | ok, seems to be already there, but not in rules.yaml, instead it is in old_rules.yaml |
| 13:19.07 | rhaeder | I add a comment to the Talk page :) |
| 13:19.26 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: i guess paroli does something on its own that's the reason rules file is different. |
| 13:19.34 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: i hope you understand the intent of all those entries to be added to the rules file... |
| 13:19.44 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: so it shouldn't be hard to do it properly. |
| 13:22.46 | rhaeder | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Manually_using_Bluetooth#Which_rules.yaml_file.3F |
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| 13:23.54 | rhaeder | or does paroli handle it on its own? |
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| 13:25.16 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: it doesn't handle bluetooth headsets i think so you need to combine approaches. |
| 13:26.01 | rhaeder | how do I do so? |
| 13:26.22 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: by thinking, you've brain for a reason |
| 13:27.23 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: and i'm quite sure /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/old_rules.yaml has no effect at all and is left there for reference. |
| 13:28.33 | rhaeder | I'm not a guru in this :/ and so i - as a user/tester - better ask paroli for help |
| 13:30.33 | PaulFertser | Hm, i thought the syntax is quite obvious... |
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| 13:33.24 | rhaeder | yes, but I prefer apps :) |
| 13:33.28 | rhaeder | http://www.opkg.org/category_8.html |
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| 13:55.22 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r54ecfaaed2d0 10/libfsobasics/ (27 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:55.22 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: fsobasics: new library containing the omre versatile utility classes |
| 13:55.22 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: previously found in libfsoframework |
| 13:55.22 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2fa18e675b91 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics-2.0.pc.in: fsobasics: fix include dir |
| 13:55.25 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r29aea048c1c5 10/libfsoframework/ (13 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:55.28 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: fsoframework: strip logger, smartkeyfile, and utilities out of this library. |
| 13:55.30 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: Depend on libfsobasics instead. |
| 13:55.32 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r87d7b662b7ce 10/Makefile: add new libraries to top-level Makefile |
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| 14:06.22 | rhaeder | PaulFertser: Is the hci kernel module loaded? http://www.nopaste.org/p/a6U97a6Gf |
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| 14:14.15 | rhaeder | mdbus -s org.bluez <-- that gave me some paths |
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| 14:14.27 | rhaeder | /org/bluez/1890/any |
| 14:14.30 | rhaeder | and all below |
| 14:14.39 | rhaeder | including /org/bluez/test |
| 14:14.41 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rcdd5d12022b0 10/src/fso-glib-1.0.deps: add gio-2.0 to vala .deps file |
| 14:14.42 | CIA-44 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * re3caf7d42b10 10/src/ (5 files): regenerate |
| 14:15.31 | rhaeder | hmmm, need to go now. |
| 14:16.26 | lindi- | mickey|zzZZzz: are you planning to write a man page for mdbus btw? |
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| 16:05.28 | naeg | how can i execute a xrandr command over ssh? |
| 16:06.06 | dos1 | naeg: by typing it ;P |
| 16:06.33 | naeg | no ; ) i meaned -display :0 : D |
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| 16:07.05 | PaulFertser | naeg: export DISPLAY=:0; xrandr ... |
| 16:07.39 | naeg | this sounds easier,thanks PaulFertser |
| 16:08.25 | PaulFertser | naeg: fyi if you want to set an environment variable only for one command, you can do it like this: "DISPLAY=:0 xandr ..." Export is persistent for the rest of the session. |
| 16:09.02 | naeg | yeah, i know this but thanks, i just couldn't remember this DISPLAY thing |
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| 16:16.41 | naeg | can someone paste me his xorg.conf from his freerunner? (need it for own OS) |
| 16:17.41 | Weiss | something like http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/openmoko/xorg.conf should work |
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| 16:17.48 | Weiss | but without the dri2 bits |
| 16:18.36 | naeg | thanks |
| 16:19.54 | Weiss | i also calibrate the touchscreen with something like this: http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/openmoko/xserver-init-lines |
| 16:20.02 | Weiss | (except without the modprobe at the bottom) |
| 16:20.22 | naeg | for now i just want to have a input, so the 3 input devices are enough |
| 16:20.49 | Weiss | there may be a better way to make this work - that's just what i worked out |
| 16:21.41 | naeg | i hope that the event* nodes are the same... |
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| 16:25.06 | Weiss | easy enough to test if you have problems.. cat /dev/input/eventwhatever, press button / touch screen |
| 16:27.17 | naeg | Weiss, cat /dev/input/event1 just loads and loads.. |
| 16:27.31 | naeg | a now, it does something : ) |
| 16:27.36 | naeg | thanks |
| 16:27.51 | naeg | but the cursor doesn't move... |
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| 16:34.48 | naeg | Weiss, you seem to know how to configure x to get touchscreen etc working? |
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| 19:03.35 | tae | hmm my phone just suspended and i have a purple line across the screen but cant do anything |
| 19:03.48 | tae | the light is still on, so its not hibernated/suspended properly |
| 19:04.04 | tae | i can still ping it |
| 19:04.39 | SM2k | if you can ping it, can you log in via ssh? |
| 19:04.53 | tae | no it does not work |
| 19:04.56 | tae | stops at: debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply |
| 19:05.54 | tae | now i get : ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host |
| 19:06.02 | tae | but ping still works |
| 19:06.09 | tae | none of the buttons work, but the on power is blue |
| 19:06.23 | lindi- | tae: what does kernel print? |
| 19:06.26 | SM2k | I'm not able to help btw. I just write programs that happen to run on the phone, vs others in this channel who are experts on the phone |
| 19:06.46 | tae | lindi-: i dont see anything on the screen nor can i ssh to it so i cannot see what the kernel prints |
| 19:06.56 | tae | the screen has a purple line across it and is all black |
| 19:06.58 | tae | but still backlit |
| 19:07.07 | lindi- | tae: you need to use e.g. debug board or ramconsole patch |
| 19:07.11 | sung | is openmoko dead? |
| 19:07.17 | tae | i dont have a debugboard |
| 19:07.23 | tae | no i think it works fine if i reboot |
| 19:07.33 | dos1 | sung: is sung dead? |
| 19:07.35 | PaulFertser | sung: are you dumb? |
| 19:07.41 | PaulFertser | high-fives dos1 |
| 19:07.46 | dos1 | ;D |
| 19:07.49 | SM2k | tae: does this happen often? |
| 19:07.53 | sung | "Openmoko puts further phone models on ice, support for present models continues with limited forces " |
| 19:08.04 | tae | SM2k: ive seen it happend a few times before |
| 19:08.22 | tae | usually when it comes out of hibernation/suspension |
| 19:08.54 | SpeedEvil | sung: the existing hardware will continuet o be sold for the forseeable future |
| 19:09.01 | SpeedEvil | sung: there will be no new hardware. |
| 19:09.49 | dos1 | sung: but there is community-driven gta02-core project, with aim to open hardware development process |
| 19:09.55 | tae | i think its a good thing, cos then i wont have to read about how openmoko is not like a iphone |
| 19:10.44 | tae | nevermind i will sort this out on monday, my weekly 'openmokophone day' |
| 19:10.59 | tae | was just wondering if this was a known issue or not |
| 19:12.18 | Blu3 | sung, "continues" != "dead" |
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| 19:12.24 | Blu3 | the words mean different things |
| 19:12.43 | tae | rebooted the phone now it works fine again |
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| 19:13.02 | SM2k | Blu3: in fact I'd go so far as to say I can't think of any situation where they'd even be considered vaguely related synonyms. :-) |
| 19:13.16 | Blu3 | i think i agree =] |
| 19:13.20 | SpeedEvil | SM2k: zombies. |
| 19:13.30 | SM2k | hahaha nice 8-) |
| 19:13.51 | tae | lindi-: i remember you asking about a good keyboard many months ago |
| 19:13.55 | tae | and i remember you made your own |
| 19:14.11 | tae | i just want to let you know i found a VERY GOOD one: http://www.opkg.org/package_232.html its amazing |
| 19:15.20 | tae | i have been using it for 2 weeks and im really thankful i found it, it has made my phone alot 'better' i can play nethack in a full terminal now xD |
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| 19:16.14 | dos1 | literki ;) |
| 19:16.23 | tae | yeah its awesome |
| 19:16.24 | tae | :) |
| 19:16.57 | tae | is there a good way to autostart stuff on openmoko2009? |
| 19:18.38 | dos1 | literki developer is from poland, and word "literki" means "characters" or "letters", but in diminution |
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| 19:21.04 | SM2k | you mean on bootup? |
| 19:21.07 | SM2k | tae: |
| 19:21.23 | tae | dos1: polskie dziewczyny sÄ
przyjemne |
| 19:21.29 | tae | thats all the polish i know |
| 19:21.43 | dos1 | przyjemne? ;D |
| 19:21.44 | tae | SM2k: no, i mean like /usr/share/applications/whatever.desktop |
| 19:22.11 | tae | dos1: yeah the other word i know is a swear word |
| 19:22.22 | tae | przyjemne means nice right? |
| 19:22.46 | SM2k | http://www.poltran.com/pl.php4 says you said Polish girls are nice |
| 19:22.54 | tae | ;) |
| 19:23.30 | dos1 | well, "nice" could be translated as "przyjemne", but przyjemne means rather "pleasant" |
| 19:23.35 | tae | ah |
| 19:24.02 | SM2k | I would say the semantic meaning wasn't lost in translation then. :-) |
| 19:24.12 | tae | :) |
| 19:24.16 | dos1 | ;D |
| 19:24.37 | tae | SM2k: in debian i would just add whatever i want to autostart in ~/.xsessions |
| 19:24.55 | tae | this does not seem to work with openmoko, im trying to figure out how stuff gets autostarted |
| 19:25.07 | SM2k | tae: ah! now your question makes sense. |
| 19:25.13 | tae | :) |
| 19:26.16 | tae | ah .Xsession :P |
| 19:26.31 | SM2k | there you go then :-) |
| 19:28.00 | dos1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:28.38 | tae | if [ -f $HOME/.profile ]; then . $HOME/.profile |
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| 19:28.48 | tae | is in /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 19:29.08 | tae | .Xsession did not work |
| 19:29.44 | tae | yay that works :) |
| 19:30.05 | lindi- | tae: no i use xvkbd |
| 19:30.21 | tae | lindi-: try literki if you have not, i really recomend it |
| 19:30.24 | tae | yo ucan run it transparent |
| 19:30.30 | tae | so you can have your terminal fullscreen |
| 19:31.53 | lindi- | tae: where is the source? |
| 19:32.08 | tae | i dont know i was lazy and i just unpacked it :/ |
| 19:32.31 | lindi- | tae: do i really need to run it as root? |
| 19:32.47 | tae | hmm, that i dont know :/ i run it as root |
| 19:33.03 | lindi- | uh |
| 19:33.37 | lindi- | does not sound like quality software :( |
| 19:33.47 | tae | it is a hacked together thing |
| 19:33.56 | tae | but very good, im not selling it well |
| 19:34.02 | tae | ;) |
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| 19:35.05 | tae | hmm i cannot seem to find the source |
| 19:35.37 | tae | http://pvtrace.com/literki-0.0.1.tgz |
| 19:35.41 | tae | there you go lindi- |
| 19:36.50 | tae | you might be able to run it as a normal user |
| 19:38.30 | tae | there is a button on the up right which makes the keyboard transparent, and you can change colours on it |
| 19:38.52 | tae | and if you think the vibration is annoying or if you think it sucks you battery you can change it in the config file (i love vibration when backspaceing) |
| 19:42.24 | tae | im not saying its pretty nor well coded, im just saying its the best keyboard (as in useful) ive tried out. somebody should extend this one or make perhaps other ones based on the idea. |
| 19:42.40 | tae | until then i will be happy with this |
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| 19:43.28 | tae | the other keyboards cut off the terminal, make the screen smaller then it already is, this one does not |
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| 19:47.38 | SpeedEvil | sighs. |
| 19:47.47 | SpeedEvil | wants nice voice recognition. |
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| 19:49.51 | eltermann | hi, i'm really new here... can anybody say which language(s) is openmoko build in? and it's repository? thanks for all who answer... |
| 19:50.15 | eltermann | it's repository link, I mean |
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| 19:51.50 | tae | eltermann: http://wiki.openmoko.org/ |
| 19:51.52 | tae | start out there |
| 19:52.04 | eltermann | thanks |
| 19:52.15 | tae | :) your welcome |
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| 20:42.23 | thrashold | Does any of the kernels support ReiserFS, or I should build myself? |
| 20:43.02 | PaulFertser | thrashold: should be build as a module |
| 20:43.12 | thrashold | Not suitable for a rootfs :) |
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| 20:43.22 | PaulFertser | thrashold: but it's there |
| 20:43.40 | thrashold | I see |
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| 20:47.34 | thrashold | Let's hope I succeed in trying to fix my borked (again) rootfs :( If I ever manage to find out how to take out the SD card out of the FR :D |
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| 20:49.14 | Blu3 | use a toothpick, fingernail if you have one, the guitar pick that came with your FR, etc |
| 20:51.11 | thrashold | This looks good coming from e2fsck: *** ext3 journal has been deleted - filesystem is now ext2 only *** |
| 20:51.11 | thrashold | :D |
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| 20:57.22 | thrashold | My microSD to SD adapter is cool. You can't take the card out of it, once its inside. |
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| 21:00.44 | thrashold | Any idea how to demolish the SD adapter coming with FR, without causing any trouble with the card inside? Anyone tried to ? :D |
| 21:01.08 | SpeedEvil | thrashold: why? |
| 21:01.16 | SpeedEvil | thrashold: you remove the card |
| 21:01.26 | thrashold | I can't take the card out of it, so I'm thinking about breaking it to do so :) |
| 21:01.54 | SpeedEvil | Odd. |
| 21:01.58 | thrashold | OK I took it out.... It flew somewhere to the other side of the room...... |
| 21:01.59 | SpeedEvil | this is the original card? |
| 21:02.03 | SpeedEvil | lol. |
| 21:02.10 | thrashold | nope |
| 21:02.12 | SpeedEvil | microsd isn't so great that way. |
| 21:02.33 | SpeedEvil | They should be flourescant pink, not black. |
| 21:02.42 | mwester | agrees |
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| 21:03.22 | thrashold | I have problem even with bigger objects |
| 21:03.23 | SpeedEvil | wishes the e-ink people weren't annoying. |
| 21:06.15 | Blu3 | use a butterknife to pry the SD adapter lid open |
| 21:07.16 | thrashold | You can open the adpter without breaking it? |
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| 21:28.20 | Blu3 | thrashold, i can open it with any thin object. i usually put it under the tip of the SD card and gently pry, the sd card will pop up, sometimes with a fair bit of speed. so use your other finger on top of it to stop it's flight of freedom |
| 21:29.20 | thrashold | My alredy flew fast :) |
| 21:29.24 | PaulFertser | Once open, you can implement a small hardware mod by DocScrutinizer: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/sdcard-handle/ |
| 21:29.27 | thrashold | Mine already... |
| 21:30.15 | thrashold | Erm |
| 21:30.23 | thrashold | Not that it matters |
| 21:30.30 | thrashold | But I think I got misunderstanded |
| 21:30.56 | thrashold | I meant microSD to SD adapter by SanDisk that comes with the card with FR |
| 21:31.13 | thrashold | misunderstood even |
| 21:31.43 | thrashold | The mod looks cool, though. Thanks. |
| 21:31.45 | lindi- | tae: it does not seem to have any copyright information |
| 21:32.52 | DocScrutinizer | thrashold: huh? open adapter? just pull out the uSD |
| 21:33.11 | thrashold | DocScrutinizer: It didn't wnat to go out. |
| 21:33.12 | thrashold | :) |
| 21:33.29 | DocScrutinizer | pull harder ;-) |
| 21:33.48 | thrashold | I did and it flew four-five meters away :D |
| 21:33.57 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
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| 21:42.34 | laotseu | i've just upgrade my om2008 and after reboot, i've a lot of modprobe: FATAL could not load ..../modules.dep |
| 21:42.45 | laotseu | so i'm unable to connect to my FR :( |
| 21:43.09 | laotseu | is there a solution ? |
| 21:44.04 | quatrox | laotseu: I don't know about this problem but you could try depmod -a |
| 21:44.36 | Blu3 | is your graphic interface working? |
| 21:44.37 | quatrox | and then reboot |
| 21:44.42 | laotseu | Blu3: nope |
| 21:44.56 | Blu3 | is your root filesystem on SD or the fone? |
| 21:45.15 | laotseu | on the phone |
| 21:45.32 | Blu3 | hm. you need to put a kernel on that matches the modules you have installed |
| 21:45.56 | Blu3 | i honestly don't know what version that would be for om2008 |
| 21:46.05 | laotseu | i thought upgrade would have done it for me |
| 21:47.45 | Blu3 | not everything works perfectly :/ |
| 21:47.54 | laotseu | the :) |
| 21:47.56 | laotseu | :) |
| 21:49.04 | Blu3 | =] |
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| 21:58.39 | laotseu | ok, backup restored |
| 22:01.25 | Blu3 | good |
| 22:01.46 | thrashold | Damn, my /etc/ppp/peers got fubar, and it somehow got replaced with the contents of /etc/resolv.conf? I don't know if I should blame vim or ext3 :( |
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| 22:21.15 | tae | lindi-: as i said, i dont know much about the product other then that it works well for me specifically in terminal applications and since i know you enjoy coding (thus perhaps using a terminal) i suggested the package for you. dos1 said that the devel was from poland, and the package is on opkg.org, i think his name is there aswell. perhaps you could look for a email address and contact and ask him about his licence. perhaps check |
| 22:21.36 | tae | dos1 might know him is what i meant |
| 22:22.59 | dos1 | tae: you are talking about literki? |
| 22:23.44 | dos1 | i don't know author, but his email is easly available on maillist |
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