| 00:01.32 | rooly | considering it simply for the fact that it's got tangogps |
| 00:02.14 | kah | ok guys/girls im going to bed now, good night good fight! |
| 00:02.33 | kah | rooly_ i need cellhunter for qtmoko, the im trying it again :I |
| 00:03.19 | rooly | if i could find that qt gps app, then i'd be all set |
| 00:03.29 | rooly | cause i just got unlimited text/data |
| 00:03.41 | kah | :) |
| 00:03.49 | kah | cu, over and out! |
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| 00:59.02 | the_bard | something wicked this way comes |
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| 01:03.21 | rooly | holy crap |
| 01:03.32 | rooly | fso team wants to support g1/2's and palm pre's |
| 01:03.51 | the_bard | now *that's* outrageous! |
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| 01:07.49 | rooly | well, accordin to them, they've got it down pat pretty much |
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| 02:05.25 | pabs3 | in SHR is it possible to have different idle/suspend options, depending on if the battery is charging? |
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| 02:39.37 | ndnihil | qi wont boot shit |
| 02:39.43 | ndnihil | well, it boots flash just fine |
| 02:39.47 | ndnihil | but not uSD |
| 02:40.30 | doc|home | pabs3: yep |
| 02:40.43 | doc|home | it's in the settings |
| 02:41.45 | pabs3 | doc|home: how do I configure it? |
| 02:42.05 | doc|home | pabs3: mine is switched off right now, but it's in the settings if you look |
| 02:42.41 | pabs3 | I don't see separate options for battery/non-battery |
| 02:43.55 | ndnihil | and I don't see why people say it's faster for suspend/resume |
| 02:44.03 | ndnihil | takes about the same time as uboot |
| 02:44.18 | doc|home | pabs3: sorry, can't help you :/ |
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| 03:18.57 | ndnihil | anyone else have debian hang on 'usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb'? |
| 03:19.39 | ndnihil | during boot that is |
| 03:30.03 | the_bard | delayed action on "execute": [0.0 syscon] |
| 03:30.31 | the_bard | syscon has an button named "lock" |
| 03:31.28 | the_bard | "lock" doesn't lock, throws up an error instead: "Error - no PAM support was built in to enlightenment" |
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| 04:41.01 | Cristianpark | hi all |
| 04:41.14 | Cristianpark | what's up |
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| 04:50.03 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, There's a report FSO will soon be available for the G1 and Palm Pre phones. |
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| 04:52.51 | Cristianpark | I'm sure you've discussed this before (maybe many times) but I'm planning to by an FreeRunner. What do you think it's a good idea? |
| 04:52.51 | Cristianpark | I want the phone to learn and (hopefuly) help to the community |
| 04:55.28 | Cristianpark | how do you see community state? I've suscribed to the community mail-list and i've seeing various posts, but i want to know what do you think about the fact openmoko enterprise will not support the process anymore (by now)? will the project survives with community support¿? |
| 04:55.53 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, Well, I myself find the Freerunner to be a very fun device, and the software is now at a state where many people feel it works well enough for use as a daily "serious" cell phone. |
| 04:57.07 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, I would be very surprised myself if the company Openmoko ever designed another phone. And the hardware for the Freerunner has several important limitations as you probably know. |
| 04:58.01 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, The worst limitation, in my view, is that it is not a 3G phone. The gprs data link is about as fast as a 56 kbaud modem. |
| 04:58.34 | Cristianpark | KenYoung, and what about the wi-fi support? |
| 04:58.46 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, WiFi works. |
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| 04:59.15 | KenYoung | It is usable now, and the remaining glitches are being worked out. |
| 05:00.07 | KenYoung | But the Freerunner is not something anyone should buy unless they enjoy messing around with linux, and enjoy computers for their own sake. |
| 05:00.48 | Cristianpark | I'd like to learn messing around with everything in the FreeRunner |
| 05:01.33 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, Then it may be a good fit for you. There are many linux phones on the market now, but I know of no other GNU/linux phone. |
| 05:02.28 | Cristianpark | I've heard about some linux devices as you said, but there is no one in which you can feel a part of it |
| 05:02.52 | KenYoung | There do seem to be a significant number of people buying the phone, even though Openmoko Inc has stopped designing new phones. |
| 05:03.22 | Cristianpark | that's a really good thing |
| 05:03.40 | Cristianpark | that helps encourage me to buy one |
| 05:03.58 | KenYoung | Yes. The device is far from abandoned. |
| 05:04.24 | Cristianpark | that's what I want to know |
| 05:05.06 | pabs3 | KenYoung: palm pre is kinda GNU/linux, even runs OpenEmbedded from what I hear |
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| 05:06.42 | KenYoung | pabs3, Maybe so. I could certainly be wrong. I've got a g1, but have never touched a Pre. |
| 05:07.17 | KenYoung | I regret having bought the g1. It's no fun at all compared with the Freerunner. |
| 05:08.22 | Cristianpark | KenYoung: I think that the hardware cycle is done, there won't be more FreeRunners, no GTA03, etc. But I think that if the community around OpenMoko and FreeRunner device is strong enough, it will good things to come, at least at software perspective |
| 05:09.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | havent they just reased another hardware point update? |
| 05:09.43 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, I agree, and there's a significant chance the software stacks developed for the Freerunner will be ported to another, more modern phone. |
| 05:10.33 | KenYoung | Kamping_Kaiser, Openmoko is now selling Freerunners which have the buzz problem fixed. Is that what you mean? |
| 05:10.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | KenYoung: aye. |
| 05:11.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | just making sure i wasnt on a completely wrong planet ;) |
| 05:11.32 | KenYoung | Kamping_Kaiser, That's true and it's good. But Openmoko has officially anounced that they have stopped developing new phone models. |
| 05:12.16 | pabs3 | on the other hand, they handed over hardware development to the community |
| 05:12.43 | KenYoung | pabs3, I'll be *astonished* if the community is able to produce hardware. |
| 05:12.48 | pabs3 | it will be interesting to see what comes out of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core |
| 05:13.16 | pabs3 | I wouldn't be |
| 05:13.48 | KenYoung | pabs3, Every problem OM had getting manufacturers to sell them state-of-the-art chips, and release specifications, will be even harder for a community effort. |
| 05:14.20 | KenYoung | pabs3, I sure ho[e you're right. I'll definately by a successor phone if they come out with one. |
| 05:15.12 | KenYoung | Ooops I meant hope, not hole. |
| 05:16.38 | Cristianpark | very intersting plan the gta02-core |
| 05:19.30 | KenYoung | I find it strange that the gta02-core wiki page states "It won't even be a usable phone." I consider the gta02 to be a usable phone. Why would the gta02-core not be usable as a phone? |
| 05:19.57 | pabs3 | so you don't get your hopes up :) |
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| 05:32.08 | Cristianpark | it's easy to get the buzz fixed? I mean, if I bring this document (http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf) to a elictricist, he'll be able to do the work? |
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| 05:40.24 | KenYoung | Cristianparzz-fixed versions, at a significant;y lower cost than the A7 model from Openmoko, which has no buzz problem. I'll bet that would end up being cheaper, and for sure easier, than paying an electronics show to fix it for you.k, Some of the distributers will sell bu |
| 05:41.43 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, Sorry that message got garbled. It should say "Some of the distributers will sell you fixed versions, at a significantly ..." |
| 05:44.35 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, SDG will sell you a buzz-fixed A6 for $289, while an A7 costs 389 from them. |
| 05:45.35 | Cristianpark | KenYoung: Thanks for your answer, but here's the thing: I want to buy the FreeRunner in the A6 Blowout sale on openmoko.com, so i have to do the rework myself |
| 05:45.57 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, They will buzz-fix an existing Freerunner for merely the cost of shipping, but you must get it to them by July 15th, which might be tough at this point. |
| 05:52.32 | Cristianpark | KenYoung, it's very tough right now and as I live in Colombia an the nearest distributor is on Brasil, I think that I will have to pay an electricist to do the work :S |
| 05:53.24 | Cristianpark | the buzz is always there on A6 or maybe I have a chance that my FreeRunner doesn't have the issue? |
| 05:54.40 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, Well, you know your situation best, but the difference between the blow-out prices of the A6, and the cost of an buzz-fixed A6 from SDG is only $35. If might be hard to find a shop that will do it for $35been done correctly, because they've done it many times. dollars, and you can be sure the SDG fix will have |
| 05:56.06 | KenYoung | Cristianpark, Both of my Freerunners had the buzz. And the buzz-fix does kill it completely. From what I've heard, even if your A6 doesn't happen to buzz on you right now, it may in different environments. |
| 05:57.07 | KenYoung | And the buzz is really quite bad. |
| 06:00.26 | Cristianpark | KenYoung: thanks for your opinions. There are very helpful to me |
| 06:02.15 | Cristianpark | and make think what's best way to buy the FreeRunner. I hope I can have it soon on my hands to share my experiences with all the community. That's all by now. Good bye and thank all of you |
| 06:02.27 | Cristianpark | *and make me think... |
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| 11:15.18 | serdar | hi |
| 11:15.25 | serdar | did someone tested openwrt? |
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| 11:25.33 | larsc | serdar: yes, i did |
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| 11:27.12 | serdar | larsc, gsm, gprs, wifi and gps, does that work well there? |
| 11:28.19 | larsc | sure |
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| 11:51.57 | serdar | larsc, how does it look like? somehow like shr or different? |
| 11:58.51 | serdar | I am looking for screenshots, but can't find any |
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| 12:04.25 | larsc | serdar: it looks good :) according to mirko |
| 12:04.59 | mirko | serdar: will make screenshots soon |
| 12:06.09 | mirko | serdar: typical illume for now |
| 12:06.36 | serdar | hmm illume |
| 12:06.51 | serdar | any other options? |
| 12:07.19 | mirko | serdar: sure3 |
| 12:07.22 | mirko | -3 |
| 12:09.10 | serdar | okay, I will have a look about it after my moko returns from buzz-fix work |
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| 13:00.54 | pierreN | hello |
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| 13:11.07 | pierreN | a few weks ago i came here because the aux button of my openmoko is dead. after a fall, the small metal thing that make the contact when pressing the aux button was unsoldered... a nice scottish developper proposed me to sold it. is he here please ? :) |
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| 13:25.11 | Pander | hi all, does anyone know how to fix opkg upgrade that segfaults on python-multitasking ? |
| 13:25.43 | pierreN | free more ram |
| 13:25.49 | pierreN | eg stop x11 |
| 13:25.59 | pierreN | or create swap partition |
| 13:26.24 | pierreN | or just opkg install python-multitasking && opkg upgrade |
| 13:30.09 | lindi- | Weiss: larsc: do you know how to turn backlight on when something changes on screen?(with Xorg) |
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| 15:05.46 | catholicon | i just installed opimd utils on upgraded shr unstable...i can't figure out how to create new message in opimd-message |
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| 16:02.18 | Weiss | lindi-: hmm, you mean on any update of the screen? |
| 16:03.02 | DocScrutinizer | Weiss: seems that's even impossible on standard X11 system on desktop-PC |
| 16:03.41 | Weiss | yeah.. of course, the unblanking is easy enough. to detect *any* update, you'd have to track any write to the memory mapped framebuffer |
| 16:06.21 | Weiss | one could hook into EXA somewhere and un-blank at least on any accelerated operation, but Ick. |
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| 16:24.05 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: Weiss: DAMAGE extension seems to be able to do it |
| 16:24.57 | Weiss | for ALL updates? (honest question, i don't know that extension) |
| 16:25.21 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: heh :-) never heard, but name suggests it's the only viable way to do that |
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| 16:26.37 | quatrox | DocScrutinizer: I got an A6 here, and there is some green noise at the bottom of the screen. Do you know what could cause something like that? |
| 16:27.02 | lindi- | Weiss: you can specify a lot of things with DAMAGE extension it seems |
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| 16:34.54 | DocScrutinizer | quatrox: first suspect: FPC connector on main PCB |
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| 16:36.05 | DocScrutinizer | quatrox: you know how to dis/re-connect LCM-FPC? |
| 16:36.11 | rss | Hi, are #openmoko's IRC logs stored online? |
| 16:36.47 | quatrox | DocScrutinizer: I will figure out. Do you think it may be a tiny miss alignment? The noise is almost invisible... |
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| 16:38.53 | rss | which's the stable, recommended distro(for v5)? |
| 16:39.12 | DocScrutinizer | quatrox: sometimes there might be oxide/dust/other dirt on the FPC-connector's contacts. Usually removing and re"plugging" the FPC to connector fixes that |
| 16:40.01 | rss | I told here earlier too, now I run SHR, it is bogged by WSODs, stripes etc. |
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| 16:41.20 | DocScrutinizer | quatrox: you fisrt need to carefully remove the metal-sticky from the can, then lift the lock on connector. then retract the FPC, wipe it, reinsert *tightly*, and reverse lock and sticky |
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| 16:46.06 | DocScrutinizer | quatrox: remove sticky starting at can, no more than to free the connector (i.e. do NOT remove sticky from FPC). The lock is the small black thingy on the connector, you need to carefully lift it |
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| 16:52.10 | rss | what's the fix for the white screen of death that sometimes becomes striped screen of death then later turns monochromo |
| 16:52.16 | rss | ^monochrome |
| 16:53.30 | PaulFertser | rss: on resume? |
| 16:53.40 | rss | yes |
| 16:53.48 | TAsn | rss, I don't think people come up with fixes for problems with such complex names |
| 16:54.06 | TAsn | you gotta find an abbreviation |
| 16:54.16 | rss | TAsn: WSOD? |
| 16:54.28 | TAsn | that sometimes becomes striped screen of death then later turns monochromo ? |
| 16:54.29 | TAsn | :) |
| 16:54.29 | Weiss | isn't that one "NSOD" (noise screen of death) |
| 16:54.35 | PaulFertser | rss: then i think you'll have to wait for graphics subsystem reimplementation, probably something that is currently used by OpenWRT doesn't have this problem anymore. |
| 16:54.58 | TAsn | I suggest WANSOD which is White And Noisy Screen Of Death |
| 16:54.58 | TAsn | :) |
| 16:55.12 | ndnihil | PaulFertser: were you using uboot of qi? |
| 16:55.16 | ndnihil | s/of/or/ |
| 16:55.22 | Weiss | still things WSOD should be renamed "white screen of fluffy happiness". much more positive... |
| 16:55.23 | ndnihil | for your debian install |
| 16:55.26 | ndnihil | stabs apt |
| 16:55.34 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: i was always using Qi |
| 16:55.49 | ndnihil | did you ever have it freeze on boot just after loading btusb? |
| 16:56.25 | ndnihil | I guess that's more of a debian issue than qi |
| 16:56.33 | ndnihil | but I just loaded qi for the first time last night too |
| 16:56.51 | ndnihil | not getting this blazing fast suspend/resume everyone keeps talking about either |
| 16:57.44 | TAsn | Weiss, I agree. |
| 16:57.56 | DocScrutinizer | bah, with loglevel down to mere silence uBoot does suspend/resume in <2sec as well |
| 16:58.36 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: Qi can't hang just after loading btusb obviously because it doesn't load it |
| 16:58.44 | rss | I found this: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-February/009115.html |
| 16:58.51 | rss | What to do with that? |
| 17:00.13 | PaulFertser | rss: nothing, it's already in, 6d4f252dce85b42042cfe0cc266f6568a859b4ff |
| 17:00.18 | quatrox | DocScrutinizer: thanks. I tried but I still have same result, so I will try to switch the display with my other fr to see if the problem follows the display (with the flex) or the board |
| 17:00.56 | DocScrutinizer | quatrox: absolutely correct way to go |
| 17:01.46 | DocScrutinizer | it can be glamo as well as jbt7k then |
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| 17:02.14 | quatrox | DocScrutinizer: do the phone mind if I power it on without connecting the antennas? |
| 17:02.27 | DocScrutinizer | no problem |
| 17:02.46 | quatrox | great :D |
| 17:03.03 | DocScrutinizer | you should not try to associate to GSM then, though |
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| 17:03.55 | quatrox | I guess booting up without sim will not make it try to associate |
| 17:03.57 | DocScrutinizer | as this might (in theory) damage the transmitter |
| 17:04.06 | DocScrutinizer | axactly |
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| 17:05.05 | ndnihil | oh wait |
| 17:05.08 | ndnihil | it booted this time |
| 17:05.09 | ndnihil | wtf |
| 17:05.24 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: being stupid i tried to associate with GSM without antenna. Didn't damage anything though. |
| 17:05.38 | ndnihil | oh right, I started a reinstall before going to bed |
| 17:05.48 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: I said "in theory" |
| 17:06.07 | PaulFertser | :D |
| 17:06.33 | quatrox | usually, one should not transmit without ant because the signal will be reflected back into the chip with full power |
| 17:07.03 | DocScrutinizer | quatrox: to the point :) |
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| 17:08.03 | DocScrutinizer | which makes tx-powerstage consume all the energy and may cause breakdown or overheating |
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| 17:09.32 | DocScrutinizer | usually mobile transmitters have protective means against that |
| 17:14.27 | ndnihil | paul: did you do anything special to get networking over USB working? |
| 17:14.33 | quatrox | DocScrutinizer: I got some other things to do first but I will let you know what I figure out. Thank you for the hint |
| 17:14.38 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: what do you mean? |
| 17:14.50 | ndnihil | interface wont come up when booted into debian |
| 17:14.58 | ndnihil | it didn't take the hostname I specified for it either |
| 17:15.00 | DocScrutinizer | quatrox: welcome, and update appreciated |
| 17:15.09 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: hm, it does here... |
| 17:15.15 | ndnihil | using the ./install.sh from debians wiki |
| 17:15.29 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: do you have g_ether loaded? |
| 17:15.55 | ndnihil | I can't log into it at the moment |
| 17:16.03 | ndnihil | it's sitting at a tty login |
| 17:16.04 | ndnihil | no gui |
| 17:16.07 | ndnihil | and no network |
| 17:16.26 | catholicon | i installed opimd utils on upgraded shr unstable...but i can't figure out how to create new message in opimd-message...any help??? |
| 17:16.29 | ndnihil | but that's farther than it got last night |
| 17:16.44 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: ah, that's another problem. I wonder why nodm doesn't start... |
| 17:17.07 | ndnihil | it wouldn't even install zhone |
| 17:17.08 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r3fd21e9b756c 10/etc/freesmartphone/ogsmd/networks.tab: networks.tab: update information about CenterNet network (Poland) |
| 17:17.09 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: you'll have to reboot into something working and check if all needed packages are installed. |
| 17:17.25 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: if it can't install, you need to see why and how to fix it. |
| 17:17.33 | ndnihil | libevas-engines is too low a version causing lots of dependency issues |
| 17:17.53 | ndnihil | yeah, I've been working on it from the neovento in flash |
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| 17:38.57 | Darkas | hi |
| 17:39.12 | Darkas | is there any way to configure the programs that the illume launcher shows? |
| 17:39.36 | Darkas | I haven't found something in the settings yet and no config file too |
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| 17:45.50 | PaulFertser | Darkas: it's assumed it shows _some_ programs that have .desktop files with _some_ category. |
| 17:46.33 | Darkas | PaulFertser, so I have to make some .desktop files in that category? |
| 17:46.39 | Darkas | or remove them? |
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| 17:48.46 | PaulFertser | Darkas: yes, take a look at /usr/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications/ |
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| 17:49.37 | Darkas | PaulFertser, where should that .desktop files be located? I don't have any of them in my ~/Desktop folder |
| 17:50.04 | PaulFertser | Darkas: yes, take a look at /usr/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications/ |
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| 17:51.15 | lindi- | PaulFertser: surely a user should not remove anything in /usr? |
| 17:52.39 | PaulFertser | lindi-: what i can tell you is that i have no idea about Illume's launcher and how to properly configure it. Quite possibly proper configuration is even impossible because it was a quick hack from the beginning. |
| 17:52.51 | lindi- | PaulFertser: possibly |
| 17:54.45 | Darkas | ah, ok |
| 17:55.07 | Darkas | so we can be pretty sure that it will get replaced in the future ;) |
| 17:55.33 | PaulFertser | Darkas: there's some (probably) popular launcher already by c_c iirc. |
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| 18:17.22 | ndnihil | there's a package on opkg.org that manages the moving around of icons in /usr/share/applications |
| 18:17.29 | ndnihil | so you can group them |
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| 18:18.30 | ndnihil | or I have a script somewhere that launches programs based on their .desktop files and if you move them to a specified dir |
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| 18:19.09 | pierreN | does anybody know if SpeedEvil comes here a lot please ? |
| 18:19.18 | ndnihil | (launching 'games' icon brings up a dialog that lists all programs in ~/.nlauncher/Games/ dir) |
| 18:19.40 | Darkas | ndnihil, that's cool |
| 18:19.49 | Darkas | do you want to share it? ;) |
| 18:20.03 | ndnihil | sure, let me dig it up |
| 18:20.06 | rss | is Koolu's android, cupcake? |
| 18:20.17 | ndnihil | it's just a bash script using zenity for GUI |
| 18:20.28 | ndnihil | kinda slow, but faster than repopularing the applications dir |
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| 18:20.38 | ndnihil | like the one on opkg.org does |
| 18:20.39 | PaulFertser | pierreN: yes, he does |
| 18:20.54 | ndnihil | s/repopularing/repopulating/ |
| 18:20.59 | pierreN | PaulFertser: ok thank you |
| 18:21.19 | Darkas | sdnihil, does that display the apps in the lauchcher or does it open a new window? |
| 18:21.23 | Zorkman | ~seen SpeedEvil |
| 18:21.25 | apt | speedevil <n=user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 1d 8h 30m 4s ago, saying: 'no'. |
| 18:21.46 | ndnihil | opens them normally |
| 18:21.57 | ndnihil | it's not fancy by any means |
| 18:22.10 | Darkas | hm, ok |
| 18:22.37 | Darkas | my problem is not that I don't have enough space but I want to execute bash commands with the launcher ;) |
| 18:22.45 | ndnihil | that can be done |
| 18:22.46 | Darkas | or shell scripts |
| 18:22.54 | Darkas | how? |
| 18:23.06 | ndnihil | just create a dummy .desktop file |
| 18:23.13 | ndnihil | and have it call your script |
| 18:23.20 | ndnihil | make an icon for it |
| 18:23.23 | catholicon | try http://www.opkg.org/package_220.html ... its responds way faster than moving aroubd .desktop files |
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| 18:23.52 | catholicon | on distro with python 2.6 use the alternate link in package description |
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| 18:24.30 | Darkas | catholicon, that looks really cool |
| 18:24.35 | rooly | are there any twitter packages for qtmoko? |
| 18:24.35 | catholicon | sorry...ignore the comment about python |
| 18:24.42 | Darkas | :) |
| 18:24.49 | ndnihil | hrm, only finding the one I started doing in C, not the script version |
| 18:24.53 | ndnihil | it's around here somewhere |
| 18:25.00 | Darkas | so does it work with python 2.6? |
| 18:25.14 | catholicon | yup...running along fine with SHR-unstable... |
| 18:25.16 | pbaxter | rooly: watch on Ideas on qtmoko.org |
| 18:25.20 | Darkas | ok |
| 18:25.27 | catholicon | actually its in c...so python makes no difference :) |
| 18:25.38 | Darkas | in which ways is it configurable? |
| 18:25.40 | Darkas | ahh ;) |
| 18:25.58 | Darkas | is there a config module for e or config files? |
| 18:26.29 | catholicon | you can add/remove/edit your own categories and categories to apps... |
| 18:27.32 | catholicon | nah...its an application...you need to launch it once (or add it on x server startup)..then use this app as launcher...sort of a workaround...but works fine for me |
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| 18:27.50 | catholicon | the settings tab are the last 2 tabs in the app itself |
| 18:30.53 | ndnihil | darkas: found it, let me write a quick readme for it and I'll post it somewhere |
| 18:31.01 | Darkas | cool |
| 18:31.05 | Darkas | thank you |
| 18:31.10 | ndnihil | np |
| 18:32.09 | pbaxter | trying now om2009 bnuilded on 11 july |
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| 19:07.03 | ndnihil | Darkas: http://nihil.rchomepage.com/misc/moko/nlauncher-sh.tar.gz |
| 19:07.35 | Darkas | ndnihil, thank you |
| 19:08.00 | ndnihil | np, just don't expect it to be anything more than basic |
| 19:08.16 | ndnihil | you must have zenity installed |
| 19:08.21 | ndnihil | as it uses that for the GUI |
| 19:08.35 | ndnihil | I believe you can get that from opkg.org |
| 19:08.40 | Darkas | ok |
| 19:25.08 | ndnihil | oh, and you might have to specify new icons for the nl-*.desktop files |
| 19:25.21 | ndnihil | depending on what you have installed |
| 19:25.51 | Darkas | ok |
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| 19:41.41 | ndnihil | ARGH |
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| 19:41.48 | ndnihil | did a fresh clean install of debian on uSD |
| 19:42.03 | ndnihil | and now it's hanging after loading btusb again |
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| 19:48.36 | ndnihil | booted, and still no net or gui |
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| 19:57.03 | rooly | ndnihil: whatcha on |
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| 20:05.30 | ndnihil | debian install to uSD |
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| 20:20.50 | pbaxter | where do i have to untar the modules.tar.gz? |
| 20:23.43 | ndnihil | I'm not sure it's necessary |
| 20:23.49 | ndnihil | but you'd do it from / if I remember right |
| 20:24.05 | ndnihil | so it loads them into /lib/modules/<kernel>/ |
| 20:27.10 | pbaxter | ok....thx ndnihil |
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| 20:54.22 | josch | ndnihil: still problems? |
| 20:55.10 | ndnihil | yup, no net, no gui |
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| 20:58.10 | josch | ndnihil: if you only want debian i got a tarball you can extract to your sd card in 1h |
| 20:58.28 | josch | but it does not contain fso or a gui |
| 20:58.37 | ndnihil | just an installed package list would be nice |
| 20:58.42 | ndnihil | I'd appreciate it |
| 20:58.48 | josch | sure wait.. |
| 21:00.00 | josch | ndnihil: http://sprunge.us/TVDa |
| 21:00.17 | ndnihil | thanks |
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| 21:20.35 | josch | ndnihil: if you want it i ping you when it's uploaded |
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| 22:51.35 | rpx__ | Hi, i am trying opkg update, and it is looking for http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.gz ; which does not exist? What can I change? |
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| 23:21.04 | rpx__ | Anyone that could explain why I can wget http://www.google.com but not wget http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/Packages ??? |
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