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| 00:07.41 | Weiss | PaulFertser: i'm interested in display blanking stuff.. that's what i'm faffing with (for KMS) at the moment |
| 00:10.19 | Weiss | PaulFertser: do you know what the "generalised LCM interface" Nicolas mentions in http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2656676 is? |
| 00:11.00 | Weiss | for now, i've bodged it by having a direct call to a function in jbt6k74 to send it to sleep/wake it up (the FB notifier chain isn't suitable, because /dev/fb0 becomes "second class" in KMS) |
| 00:15.03 | Weiss | (the drm-kms branch is now available on git.openmoko.org if you're curious. there's just one smallish problem to fix before it gets merged back into drm-tracking though) |
| 00:20.10 | SpeedEvil | Weiss: I vaguely recall there is something in acpi or not acpi - the new thing |
| 00:22.41 | Weiss | hmm, newer than ACPI? |
| 00:22.43 | SpeedEvil | Weiss: device-drivers ->graphics support ->backlight and lcd device support |
| 00:23.03 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.03 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.04 | Weiss | hmm, that's just the backlight, not the LCM controller? |
| 00:24.19 | Weiss | for us, of course, they're completely separate chips |
| 00:26.00 | SpeedEvil | hmm |
| 00:26.49 | SpeedEvil | unsure |
| 00:27.32 | SpeedEvil | I thought it was more extensive than just backlight - but I can't see anythin to support that - and it's 1:29, and I need some sleep |
| 00:28.07 | Weiss | same here |
| 00:28.27 | Weiss | just getting OE working on my new Fedora installation so i can debug something |
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| 00:56.50 | tae | hi i am trying to get openmoko2009 working from my sd card but for some reason when i try to boot i get a error about it not finding the uImage.bin |
| 00:56.54 | tae | but i followed the wiki |
| 00:57.42 | tae | i changed my mmcblk0p1 to ex2 from vfat |
| 00:59.09 | tae | its working fine on the nand but i wanted to run it on SD as well, so i would normally boot from SD and in emergencys boot into nand |
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| 01:34.21 | DocScrutinizer | tae: you might want to use the moko11 uSD gsm-flashing image as a template. At least it starts from all NOR and most NAND uBoot |
| 01:35.32 | DocScrutinizer | for Qi I'm told you'd need an additional symlink for uImage.bin (uimage.gta02.bin iirc) |
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| 07:26.32 | fredrin | Goooood morning freetards :P myself included :) |
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| 08:17.01 | sybren | PaulFertser: I some the occasional cigar, just because I like the taste and smell of it :) |
| 08:17.29 | fredrin | likes snus, sigaretts and jazz sigarettes :) |
| 08:18.12 | sybren | PaulFertser: and one of the first things I did after installing SHR unstable was to install vim :P |
| 08:18.31 | PaulFertser | sybren: occassional is ok if you do not get dependent on it. But it's sad to see all those people smoking 20 cigaretes a day. |
| 08:19.09 | fredrin | PaulFertser: you should thank them, they would die earlier and it will be more likely that you contry can afford pensions |
| 08:19.11 | sybren | PaulFertser: yeah, I agree there. |
| 08:19.20 | PaulFertser | sybren: the problem is that in russia cigarettes are very cheap, you can get 2 packs a EUR. |
| 08:19.51 | sybren | PaulFertser: yeah, and those things are deliberately made to be extra addictive |
| 08:19.53 | PaulFertser | fredrin: i don't think about my pension yet ;) |
| 08:21.09 | PaulFertser | sybren: and yes, vim on FR is the most useable text editor :D |
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| 08:21.37 | fredrin | Snus is good though :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xjm9NNuuVU |
| 08:21.47 | fredrin | only exist in norway and sweeden |
| 08:22.17 | fredrin | you get the nicotine, but don't bother other people and you can use it indoors and on planes/jobs |
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| 08:26.14 | PaulFertser | fredrin: we used to sniff special tobacco at school. |
| 08:26.22 | PaulFertser | fredrin: fun but doesn't make sense |
| 08:26.35 | fredrin | PaulFertser: are you from russia? |
| 08:26.43 | PaulFertser | fredrin: yes |
| 08:26.57 | fredrin | Nicotine do help with consentration though |
| 08:27.39 | fredrin | PaulFertser: but i know your points, have had these discussions many times :) |
| 08:27.41 | PaulFertser | fredrin: i'm not sure. Probably pure psycological effect. |
| 08:28.07 | PaulFertser | fredrin: btw, we sniffed the tobacco right during classes, the teachers didn't complain too much :) |
| 08:28.21 | fredrin | :) |
| 08:28.22 | PaulFertser | fredrin: haha, i'm boring talking the same stuff over and over. |
| 08:28.46 | PaulFertser | fredrin: the snus ad is fun. Too little about the tits though. |
| 08:29.25 | fredrin | hehe, then you need to go to sweeden IRL and feel them |
| 08:29.54 | fredrin | or norway, but i do think the the sweedish girls got better tits |
| 08:29.56 | fredrin | hehe |
| 08:32.04 | Q-Master | Nicotine is a drug anyway. 8) |
| 08:32.05 | sybren | Sweden is also a very good country for hitchhiking |
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| 08:33.06 | PaulFertser | sybren: oh, really? I had a hard time hitchhiking in Germany after F9N |
| 08:33.20 | sybren | F9N? |
| 08:34.46 | PaulFertser | sybren: FSOSHRUDEVCON |
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| 08:36.52 | sybren | PaulFertser: I've been hitchhiking from Amsterdam to Sweden, Croatia, Spain, Italy, Hungary, Slovenia, England and more Croatia, all relatively painless |
| 08:37.13 | sybren | and through France, Germany and Belgium, of course, to get to those countries |
| 08:40.19 | PaulFertser | sybren: wow, cool :D |
| 08:42.32 | sybren | PaulFertser: yeah, great fun! Well, sometimes it's tough, when you stand still for hours on end, but still it's definitely worth the trouble |
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| 08:43.39 | PaulFertser | sybren: my problem with that is i don't like being alone. |
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| 08:43.46 | PaulFertser | sybren: btw, where did you sleep most of the time? |
| 08:46.19 | sybren | PaulFertser: Except for my first time to Croatia (I was with a friend then) I traveled with my girl |
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| 08:46.45 | sybren | PaulFertser: and usually it takes only roughly 24 hours, so we just don't sleep ;-) |
| 08:47.04 | PaulFertser | sybren: but trucks have only one passenger seat |
| 08:47.25 | sybren | PaulFertser: yeah, and travel way too slow. We prefer fast cars :) |
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| 08:49.07 | PaulFertser | sybren: sure. But that severely limits possibilities to go further. BTW, in russia trucks don't have a speed limit :P |
| 08:49.43 | sybren | PaulFertser: that's good to know :) but regular cars also travel far. We usually take the highways, and travel from petrol station to petrol station. That works pretty well |
| 08:50.30 | PaulFertser | sybren: do you hold a sign or anything? |
| 08:51.08 | sybren | PaulFertser: sometimes, but more often we just walk up to people while they are filling their gas tank or walking to the counter, and simply ask them whether they want to take us in a certain direction |
| 08:51.30 | PaulFertser | sybren: isn't it considered impolite and too intrusive? |
| 08:51.42 | PaulFertser | sybren: (just wondering) |
| 08:54.13 | sybren | PaulFertser: yeah, if you do things wrong it is. Sometimes people are startled a bit, because they aren't used to talking to each other at a petrol station. It helps if you alert them to your presence while you're still a few meters away, and if you simply act polite and friendly |
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| 08:55.10 | PaulFertser | sybren: ok, thanks for the great tips :) |
| 08:55.30 | sybren | PaulFertser: having a nice girlfriend to send to those people helps as well (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sybrenstuvel/3556295742/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/sybrenstuvel/3418407483/) |
| 08:56.11 | sybren | PaulFertser: especially for the somewhat more hormone-driven little guys in Italy :P they are usually a bit put off when a 2 meter tall guy like me strolls up to them ;-) |
| 08:57.09 | PaulFertser | sybren: a nice girlfriend is something that i lack :-/ |
| 08:57.25 | sybren | PaulFertser: I just heard that Sweden is a good place to go for those ;-) |
| 08:59.05 | PaulFertser | sybren: What is the best place to look for them? At technical mueseums or local LUGs? |
| 08:59.08 | PaulFertser | ;) |
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| 09:09.26 | methril|work | morning |
| 09:16.36 | CVirus | Guys, do this illustration pictograms on cofundos website have a name ? http://cofundos.org/index.php |
| 09:16.39 | CVirus | these* |
| 09:16.53 | CVirus | the technique itself of illustrating an idea through pictograms and pictures |
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| 09:17.52 | CVirus | anyone ? |
| 09:27.37 | sybren | PaulFertser: lol :) |
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| 09:58.45 | capsule | Hello there, is NeoFreerunner project closed? |
| 10:00.08 | fsfs | capsule: no |
| 10:01.45 | capsule | fsfs: i read that project won't be supported officially |
| 10:02.40 | fsfs | it's a community project now |
| 10:05.07 | capsule | fsfs: will be any new versions of NeoFreerunner? |
| 10:06.25 | jc1 | new version? |
| 10:07.33 | capsule | yeap, for example: NeoFreerunner with video cam |
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| 10:08.06 | tig| | capsule: it is not looking likely at the moment, well not from Openmoko anyway but the software is still being developed for use on other phones |
| 10:09.43 | mjr | openmoko inc isn't doing phones at this time, they're trying to keep going by doing a smaller project. If that succeeds, I guess they'll do a new phone. If not, well, let's see if FIC wants to sink money in or something... |
| 10:10.02 | mjr | (I'm not anything official, just guessing here) |
| 10:12.20 | capsule | thx |
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| 10:21.32 | SpeedEvil | OM is doing phones - in that they are continuing to supply demand, and will make more GTA02 required |
| 10:21.41 | SpeedEvil | Theey are not developing new phones |
| 10:21.58 | SpeedEvil | However - GTA03 with camera is looking unlikely. |
| 10:22.09 | SpeedEvil | meh. |
| 10:22.16 | SpeedEvil | stabs capsule. |
| 10:25.23 | mjr | true, "doing" was rather unnecessarily vague |
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| 12:09.27 | stricjux | hello! |
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| 12:09.41 | tae_ | hello stricjux |
| 12:09.59 | stricjux | I'm looking for anybody with knowledge or experience on the bluetooth solution on openmoko (CSR BlueCore4). |
| 12:11.07 | stricjux | I'm working on development of a small SoC with CSR BlueCore4 and I'm lacking access to documentation |
| 12:11.10 | tae_ | i dont know anything useful about bluetooth |
| 12:11.50 | tae_ | hmm, i normally use gmessage in debian to generate dialogs, what would you suggest i should use with OM20009 ? |
| 12:11.51 | SpeedEvil | what do you mean 'the bluetooth solution' ? |
| 12:12.04 | tae_ | 2009 :P |
| 12:12.34 | stricjux | the chipset used for bluetooth communication - as far as I can see openmoko uses CSR BlueCore4 |
| 12:14.29 | SM2k | Manufacturer: Cambridge Silicon Radio (10) |
| 12:14.59 | SpeedEvil | stricjux: yes - what are you trying to do |
| 12:15.46 | stricjux | We are trying to support it on our CortexM3 board, but the accessible documentation is lacking in development related data (registers, control,....) |
| 12:16.17 | SpeedEvil | the one OM is using is just connected over USB |
| 12:16.22 | SpeedEvil | and handled by bluez |
| 12:16.25 | stricjux | aha |
| 12:16.42 | stricjux | ok, I'll try to talk with the bluez guys. |
| 12:16.55 | stricjux | they probably can help me a bit more |
| 12:16.56 | SpeedEvil | Also - CSR has docs |
| 12:17.01 | SpeedEvil | but they are far from free |
| 12:17.18 | stricjux | SpeedEvil, not all are publicly availible - the interesting aren't. |
| 12:17.33 | SpeedEvil | They do have a usenet server where you can ask questions |
| 12:17.44 | tobii_ | stricjux: http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki that should help for beginning |
| 12:17.45 | SpeedEvil | what are you trying to do? |
| 12:18.01 | SpeedEvil | m3 - this has no RAM to run linux? |
| 12:18.21 | stricjux | no |
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| 12:18.49 | SpeedEvil | You're going to need to do a fair bit of work then :/ |
| 12:18.55 | SpeedEvil | though tehre are pay-for stacks |
| 12:19.02 | stricjux | SpeedEvil, most of the work is already done |
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| 12:19.27 | stricjux | just the data on how to control the CSR is needed... the board is already built. |
| 12:19.31 | PBeck | hi |
| 12:19.39 | SpeedEvil | I mean on the software side. |
| 12:19.49 | SpeedEvil | software can take more time than hardware |
| 12:20.04 | stricjux | we are only lacking BT support. |
| 12:20.11 | stricjux | everything else works (TM) |
| 12:20.13 | stricjux | :) |
| 12:20.18 | SpeedEvil | What do you mean by 'BT support' |
| 12:20.33 | SpeedEvil | there are a quarter of a billion profiles. |
| 12:20.43 | stricjux | a way to control CSR BlueCore4 to setup an RFCOMM link |
| 12:21.08 | stricjux | RFCOMM support is inbuilt in CSR BlueCore4, or atleast so I'm told. |
| 12:21.24 | SpeedEvil | The CSR Bluecore4 isn't wht you want docs on |
| 12:21.35 | SpeedEvil | you want the docs on the software stack running on the bluecore4 |
| 12:21.45 | stricjux | ok |
| 12:22.08 | SpeedEvil | Which I haven't worked out where you get those - a post on the CSR forum may be of use. |
| 12:22.18 | stricjux | SpeedEvil, good idea |
| 12:27.21 | SpeedEvil | or indeed the bluez guys |
| 12:27.28 | SpeedEvil | sking where they got docs |
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| 13:04.47 | Silicium | hi there |
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| 13:10.24 | pieterc | hi |
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| 13:32.47 | thrashold | fso-abyss 0.3.3+git20080628-1 Does such a thing even exist, or the Debian packager wrote 8 instead of 9? :) |
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| 14:14.06 | thrashold | Can I hotplug the SIM card? |
| 14:14.36 | CVirus | I don't have a freerunner but isn't the SIM card covered with the battery ? |
| 14:14.51 | dns53 | it is covered |
| 14:15.00 | thrashold | CVirus: Yes, but you can remove the battery when using USB power |
| 14:15.04 | thrashold | or a charger |
| 14:15.06 | CVirus | aha |
| 14:15.07 | jc | power on by battery, and plug usb cable to charge |
| 14:15.19 | jc | never try that. |
| 14:16.08 | thrashold | My guess is that it would work if the GSM is powered down, but I'm not willing to try. |
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| 14:16.19 | thrashold | And I'm not sure what happens if it isn't |
| 14:17.12 | Weiss | i think one of the FSO people successfully made it work in an experiment (shutting the GSM unit down properly first), but i wouldn't recommend trying. i don't know if the required changes made through |
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| 14:18.58 | Weiss | also, do i remember reading somewhere that the GSM needs the battery to function? i.e. no GSM if power is by USB only? |
| 14:19.13 | Weiss | well, obviously i do, but vaguely. i wonder whether that's correct |
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| 14:19.55 | thrashold | In theory, the SIM slot should be completely powered down when the GSM is powered down, right? |
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| 14:21.23 | Weiss | you'll really have to ask someone who properly knows for the details |
| 14:21.39 | Weiss | perhaps there is deeper magic involved there |
| 14:22.44 | SpeedEvil | ponders looking at the schematic. |
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| 15:30.21 | rss | Hi, I am running SHR on Neo FreeRunner, while booting it says "power_supply_battery: driver failed to report `health' property |
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| 15:30.34 | rss | and battery info is not being shown |
| 15:31.43 | rss | the battery is GTA02 itself, I got this phone from a friend who has not used for almost an year, it'd got discharged |
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| 15:42.01 | DocScrutinizer | rss: the bat might have died due to excessive prolonged deep discharge. Try to load for 12h, then reboot |
| 15:42.23 | DocScrutinizer | or is device able to run from bat? |
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| 15:46.49 | DocScrutinizer | rss: even a partially charged bat might report no-health after Vbat-very-low emergency cutout. maybe charging to full will fix it. |
| 15:47.30 | DocScrutinizer | or even a full charge-discharge-charge cycle |
| 15:49.10 | DocScrutinizer | bq27k CC in bat probably has reset and now needs to ecaluate bat capacity before any meaningful bat status can be reported |
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| 15:58.41 | DocScrutinizer | rss: you might do me a favour and run this command _now_: " cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c24xx_pwm.0/hdq.0/hdq/dump >depleted-bat-dump.txt " |
| 15:59.08 | DocScrutinizer | then send me this file depleted-bat-dump.txt to joerg@openmoko.org |
| 15:59.57 | DocScrutinizer | rss: if you get some error, just run same command again. I've been told it fails sometimes |
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| 16:38.58 | rss | DocScrutinizer: cool, now the phone is down with WSOD(that white and black strip screen of death), I will restart it and send |
| 16:39.22 | chocotuar_ | quick question about buzzfix |
| 16:39.40 | rss | DocScrutinizer: or I shall charge it fully and let it discharge a bit and see? |
| 16:39.53 | rss | I will do that and see |
| 16:40.03 | rss | chocotuar_: ask |
| 16:40.06 | ndnihil | I got that stripe |
| 16:40.18 | chocotuar_ | does the phone explicitly say that it is hardware revision A5/6/7 or do I have to guess |
| 16:40.19 | ndnihil | but only on random versions of unstable dists |
| 16:40.38 | ndnihil | chocotuar_: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 16:41.19 | chocotuar_ | excellent |
| 16:41.20 | rss | mine does buzz and echo, is the C thing, the only fix? |
| 16:41.20 | chocotuar_ | thanks |
| 16:41.26 | ndnihil | the revision line |
| 16:41.32 | ndnihil | rss: what dist are you running? |
| 16:41.36 | rss | SHR |
| 16:41.41 | ndnihil | what version? |
| 16:41.57 | rss | the latest, I flashed just yesterday |
| 16:42.03 | ndnihil | testing? unstable? |
| 16:42.08 | rss | unstable |
| 16:42.20 | ndnihil | hrm |
| 16:42.37 | ndnihil | I'm using an shr unstable that is a bit older than that without any major issues |
| 16:42.57 | ndnihil | that stripe thing is pretty annoying though |
| 16:43.31 | ndnihil | let me see if I can find the shr version I'm using |
| 16:43.34 | ndnihil | it doesnt stripe |
| 16:43.50 | ndnihil | rather, the release date of shr unstable I'm using |
| 16:44.33 | ndnihil | 06/05/09 seems to be the date |
| 16:44.37 | chocotuar_ | hackable:1 cat /proc/cpuinfo says that revision is "0350" |
| 16:44.50 | ndnihil | shr-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20090605-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 16:44.57 | ndnihil | uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119814+23b564c9d22cc5e442361e632626d5f131c40752-r3.5-om-gta02.bin |
| 16:45.07 | ndnihil | if those are still in the repo, grab them and give it a shot |
| 16:45.34 | ndnihil | 0350 is V5 |
| 16:45.40 | chocotuar_ | I see |
| 16:46.30 | ndnihil | do you have a tiny little capacitor soldered across the uSD slot pins? |
| 16:46.52 | chocotuar_ | no - is that the fix for the GPS? |
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| 16:47.13 | ndnihil | keeps uSD from interfering with GPS I think |
| 16:47.34 | chocotuar_ | I replaced the uSD with a kingston 2GB and GPS works fine now |
| 16:47.46 | chocotuar_ | I bet if I went back to the transcend 512mb that came with the phone it wouldn't work |
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| 17:03.34 | aboyer | hello, the following is a newbie question: i have purchased an A7 freerunner and would like to make sure that I indeed received the A7 revision. I executed "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and it shows "Revision: 0360", indicating the A6 revision. am i missing something? |
| 17:04.01 | ndnihil | could be a V6 with the V7 mods done later? |
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| 17:05.05 | ndnihil | not sure what the hardware differences are |
| 17:05.07 | azaghal | aboyer: You could open it to check if it has the buzz-fix applied? |
| 17:05.14 | aboyer | maybe, but I purchased it from Koolu and specifically asked made sure that all products they ship are A7... |
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| 17:05.53 | aboyer | azaghal: true, but i would need some hex screwdrivers... |
| 17:06.13 | azaghal | I'd borrow you mine if you were nearby :) |
| 17:06.19 | azaghal | Got a neat little metabo set. |
| 17:06.25 | aboyer | hehe, thx |
| 17:06.28 | ndnihil | azaghal: you from chicago? |
| 17:06.37 | aboyer | ottawa, canada |
| 17:06.40 | ndnihil | ah |
| 17:06.55 | azaghal | Well, sometimes Chicago's called "Little Serbia", but that's the closest it is to me :) |
| 17:06.59 | ndnihil | chicago is the only other place I've been that uses borrow that way |
| 17:07.13 | ndnihil | "I'll borrow you this" instead of "I'll lend you this" etc... |
| 17:07.46 | azaghal | Is it gramatically incorrect to use "borrow" in such context? |
| 17:07.59 | ndnihil | not sure to be honest |
| 17:08.18 | azaghal | Heheh |
| 17:08.19 | ndnihil | I've lived all over the US and chicago is the only place where I heard that as a regular saying |
| 17:08.21 | aboyer | i would say that it is not correct, but then again, i am no language expert |
| 17:09.04 | ndnihil | kinda like some places call bubbly sugar things like "soda", "pop", "soft drink", and in some places, everything with bubbles in it is a "coke" |
| 17:09.15 | aboyer | and languages evolve all the time, so it is not very surprising imo |
| 17:10.36 | ndnihil | picking out the odd little language differences was always the fun part about moving |
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| 17:22.42 | Pyrasi | hi all |
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| 17:23.29 | Pyrasi | Has anyone tried running canola on om2009? It worked great on SHR, but it seems to segfault enlightement repeatedly in om2009 for some reason.... |
| 17:23.36 | Pyrasi | anyone know why? |
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| 17:58.11 | DocScrutinizer | rss: you may want to charge fully, then discharge until you feel it's really aching. I'd like to get the dump of bat-controller before you do this though |
| 17:58.42 | DocScrutinizer | anyway probably it's already too late for that |
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| 18:19.24 | MacLord | hi |
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| 19:36.58 | eomv | Perhaps someone can help me, I have a question concerning the buzz rework done by golden delicious: Can I send in my device prior to the website telling me that the payment has been received? |
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| 20:59.40 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: Do you know how high voltages can FR take over USB? 4x 1.2V NiMh batteries give out something like 5.5Volts - is that too much, is there a regulater/something that can take it? It's a pain to have the NiMH that recharge to over 1.2V.. Using a 5V regulator is an option as well as 5.1V diod but generally not good ideas as power's lost already before entering the phone.. |
| 21:03.13 | SpeedEvil | rhkfin: it's nota good idea to overvoltage |
| 21:03.40 | SpeedEvil | a boost regulator would be an option. |
| 21:03.46 | rhkfin | SpeedEvil: I know. The question is where's the limit.. |
| 21:03.50 | SpeedEvil | 5.1V diode is not |
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| 21:05.38 | rhkfin | And btw, when the screen is in horizontal (xrandr -o 3) mode, I still can hear the very high noise from the screen - it's loud enought to be heared when drivign a car, having FR half a meter away.. |
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| 21:08.17 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: hey how are you doing? |
| 21:09.05 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: currently working on new interface. Will be quite different than what I showed you on our wiki |
| 21:09.27 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: but I think you will like it (well I hope, with the time I spend on it ;-) ) |
| 21:09.53 | rhkfin | onen|openBmap_: not bad |
| 21:09.59 | rhkfin | nice :) |
| 21:10.10 | SpeedEvil | rhkfin: is horizontal upside dowm mode as loud? |
| 21:11.00 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: ok need some sleep. good night! |
| 21:11.37 | rhkfin | SpeedEvil: I think so, yes |
| 21:11.49 | rhkfin | onen|openBmap_: see you! (I'll be travelling in 3 weeks for 3weeks :) |
| 21:12.06 | rhkfin | SpeedEvil: if you mean xrandr -o 1 |
| 21:12.16 | rhkfin | SpeedEvil: but -o 0 or -o 2 are totally silent |
| 21:12.21 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 21:12.26 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: oh, you put some pressure on me then, I have to release new gui for your trip |
| 21:12.26 | SpeedEvil | I blame the glamo. |
| 21:12.37 | SpeedEvil | Because it's the cause of all other woes. :) |
| 21:13.00 | rhkfin | onen|openBmap_: indeed! |
| 21:13.39 | rhkfin | SpeedEvil: I guess it's possible.. Still annoying, and I havent heard anyone else reporting this.. Maybe I'll post to community ML and ask.. |
| 21:13.48 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: ;-) I hope to have finished it at the end of the week. Some days of testing (this time without weird bug I hope). Plus the time to see it hit the repo, we should be quite good ;-) |
| 21:14.29 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: if we run out of time, ping me, I will prepare an ipk by hand for you :-) |
| 21:14.40 | rhkfin | onen|openBmap_: nice! |
| 21:14.42 | rhkfin | :) |
| 21:14.59 | rhkfin | onen|openBmap_: First I need a stable distro :) (ok, thanks, I know people recommend SHR..) |
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| 21:18.24 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: what distro are you using? |
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| 21:28.04 | PaulFertser | thrashold: i hotswapped sims without problems |
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| 21:28.27 | thrashold | PaulFertser: Is it important that the GSM is turned off? |
| 21:28.57 | thrashold | (As in, should I tripple check that it is really off) |
| 21:31.16 | rhkfin | onen|openBmap_: OM2009 |
| 21:32.39 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: ah right, you talked about paroli |
| 21:33.06 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: by the way, did you try the last obm update (which should have fixed dependencies issues) ? |
| 21:33.55 | rhkfin | onen|openBmap_: no I haven't.. Haven't had time to upgrade/update (or actually time to fix, if something breaks..) for a while.. |
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| 21:34.24 | onen|openBmap_ | rhkfin: ok. we'll see then |
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| 21:44.28 | FiXion_ | any of you use some sort of "rotation" for openmoko? |
| 21:44.37 | josch | xrandr |
| 21:44.39 | FiXion_ | I tried omnewrotate - but it rotates too much for my taste. |
| 21:44.55 | FiXion_ | I'd rather just have a "switch" to switch from landscape to portrait (so to speak) |
| 21:45.19 | FiXion_ | om2009 uses the aux button (short press) for keyboard afaik |
| 21:45.20 | josch | xrandr -o [0-3] |
| 21:45.44 | FiXion_ | but isn't there another aux button option.. (keeping it in for a few seconds or something) |
| 21:45.52 | FiXion_ | which I could map a small script to ? |
| 21:45.59 | FiXion_ | (which would run xrandr -o ...) |
| 21:46.08 | FiXion_ | josch: thanks for the exact command btw. |
| 21:46.58 | josch | FiXion_: it's the same on your desktop - try it |
| 21:47.17 | FiXion_ | josch: I believe you :) |
| 21:47.26 | FiXion_ | I just wanted a quick way to switch on my openmoko |
| 21:47.33 | FiXion_ | and was thinking the aux button was it. |
| 21:47.40 | FiXion_ | so I can have apps in fullscreen (like a browser) |
| 21:48.07 | FiXion_ | and terminal |
| 21:48.27 | FiXion_ | but I don't know where I'd map the AUX key function |
| 21:48.49 | FiXion_ | is flashing om2009-unstable :) |
| 21:49.11 | FiXion_ | and eagerly awaiting my sdhc card.. |
| 21:49.35 | FiXion_ | so I can upgrade gsm (weird it was moko10 version on a gta02 A7) |
| 21:54.34 | PaulFertser | thrashold: i'm not sure you can damage the sim... i just turned off zhone |
| 21:55.25 | PaulFertser | sim is easi;y replaceable by oprator, so i have little concerns |
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| 22:17.36 | fredrin | hmmm, what's this thing abou open-wrt kernel? |
| 22:17.42 | fredrin | sounds like good gnus |
| 22:20.41 | FiXion_ | fredrin: link? |
| 22:21.34 | fredrin | FiXion_: on the mailing list |
| 22:21.53 | FiXion_ | fredrin: shr-devel? or shr-user? |
| 22:22.05 | fredrin | http://pastebin.com/m318cfc27 |
| 22:23.08 | FiXion_ | fredrin: nice :) |
| 22:23.14 | fredrin | yeah |
| 22:23.18 | FiXion_ | so openwrt is an option now it seems |
| 22:23.32 | FiXion_ | but how is openwrt in regards to the "phone-part" ? |
| 22:23.41 | fredrin | this sounds interesting |
| 22:23.42 | fredrin | We also did a lot of cleanup and stability fixes to openmoko specific device drivers, I certainly want to submit my changes but I'm not sure if they will get accepted as some are basically complete rewrites and also get rid of conceptually broken sysfs entries. But as those are considered public api and there could be some application somewhere using it, I'm afraid there people who will reject such changes (See the Xglamo in kernel |
| 22:23.42 | fredrin | fixes for broken userland madness) |
| 22:25.01 | fredrin | FiXion_: i'm not so much into the details of the openwrt kernel thing, but if they did fix openmoko spesific device drivers, that would be nice anyway |
| 22:25.12 | fredrin | and got it to work with the latest .30 kernel |
| 22:25.26 | fredrin | to me it sounds like a big step in the right direction |
| 22:25.38 | fredrin | maybe the can do some wifi magic aswell |
| 22:25.52 | FiXion_ | fredrin: wifi not working for you? |
| 22:26.10 | FiXion_ | I saw a patch for the ar6000 driver when it borks after suspend |
| 22:26.15 | fredrin | it works, but to much fail, with suspend, high ping |
| 22:28.29 | fredrin | om2009t5 is the biggest fail, shr works the best, but far from perfect |
| 22:30.02 | FiXion_ | what problems do you have with om2009t5 ? |
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| 22:30.23 | FiXion_ | I just went back to om2009t from shr-unstable |
| 22:30.44 | FiXion_ | as shr was too unstable (the contacts and messages parts being the worst) |
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| 22:35.01 | FiXion_ | om2009 unstable (from 7/7) is really unstable though :( |
| 22:35.34 | FiXion_ | been running it for 20 min. and I've already gotten 2 enlightenment crashes and a paroli crash |
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