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| 01:17.32 | novalis_dt | It actually also hangs when I try calling GetPower via dbus too. |
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| 09:08.44 | lindi- | was there a list of known to work bluetooth headsets somewhere? can't find from wiki |
| 09:09.35 | dns53 | why would not all of them work? |
| 09:10.03 | valos | lindi-: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A2DP#6._Devices_that_work |
| 09:10.49 | leila | dns53: because bluetooth only is about connecting, nothing about using |
| 09:11.34 | lindi- | dns53: they just don't :) BH-203 at least doesn't |
| 09:12.29 | lindi- | valos: none of those seem to mention that GSM calls would work |
| 09:12.48 | dns53 | i have not yet tried my one yet, i can connect also but i have not gotten to manually setting up the audio device |
| 09:15.56 | lindi- | PaulFertser: Digital_Pioneer: did I understand it correctly from IRC logs that you have managed to make a GSM call with bluetooth headset? which model was it? |
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| 09:17.04 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i'm afraid Digital_Pioneer failed to do it because of some bluetooth problems and i failed to do it because my headset (cheapest Iqua smth) seem to be not fully compatible (at least with the current code) with CSR chip we use in FR. |
| 09:17.36 | PaulFertser | lindi-: in my testing everything worked except i didn't hear any sound apart from amp noise. But that's expected behaviour with my headset. |
| 09:17.55 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i'd recommend to borrow some headset and follow the wiki instructions to test if it works. |
| 09:18.08 | lindi- | PaulFertser: ok, have you heard of anybody who would have made a call with a bluetooth headset? |
| 09:19.34 | PaulFertser | lindi-: yes, i believe shoragan did that :) I tell you, everything worked with my headset. It's just that it doesn't send SCO frames to amplifier for some reason. I'm sure it'd work with the other headset i tried (though i tried streaming arbitrary audio data to it, not actual call, but i'm sure it'd work with GSM too). |
| 09:19.53 | lindi- | shoragan: which model did you use? |
| 09:20.10 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I had the same problem, everything worked but I did not hear anything |
| 09:20.20 | PaulFertser | lindi-: the headset that worked for me was some "Jabra" with about 4-5 keys. |
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| 09:20.29 | lindi- | PaulFertser: and johnsu had the same problem too with different headset |
| 09:20.53 | lindi- | PaulFertser: ah so you had a headset that worked too? |
| 09:21.34 | PaulFertser | lindi-: my Iqua headset worked well in exactly the same configuration on my laptop. I had sound with it, but only on laptop. And it looks like the problem is somewhere deeper, probably in kernel. I also tried the latest bluetooth kernel portions on FR but it didn't help. |
| 09:21.49 | lindi- | PaulFertser: ok |
| 09:22.02 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i had success streaming SCO to the other headset (Jabra) and i'm sure GSM would work with it too but i hadn't tried. |
| 09:22.23 | lindi- | I think we should add to the wiki that currently there's no known headset that can be used with GSM calls |
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| 09:22.29 | PaulFertser | lindi-: btw, that Jabra was older than non-working Iqua (iirc, i think that jabra didn't support eSCO). |
| 09:22.38 | lindi- | (I mean one that is 100% known to work) |
| 09:22.52 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i think i can manage to borrow that same headset at work tomorrow or on friday again. |
| 09:24.31 | PaulFertser | lindi-: if you're interested, here're the logs comparing my Iqua headset working with laptop and not working with FR: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/PaulFerster/ I couldn't find any obvious differences. It might be a bug in CSR firmware even (!) but i'm not sure if we can reflash it somehow. :-/ |
| 09:25.05 | PaulFertser | lindi-: or probably i'm sure we can't reflash it because it ROM, i seem to remember that. |
| 09:25.34 | PaulFertser | If only we could find some workaround... |
| 09:25.38 | leila | if that is the case hope for a workaround in the dirver ... |
| 09:25.42 | leila | driver** |
| 09:25.48 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I was just asking today since I had extra time to go shopping around |
| 09:26.11 | lindi- | so if there had been some headset that would at least be possible to configure to work I would have bought it today :) |
| 09:26.28 | PaulFertser | leila: there's no much hope because there's no capable bluetooth dev interested :( |
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| 09:26.46 | PaulFertser | lindi-: can you arrange some money-back scheme? |
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| 09:27.34 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i think list of eeprom parameters might be of interest (in finding a workaround) but i can't seem to find it atm. |
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| 09:29.06 | PaulFertser | lindi-: http://case.cs.mnsu.edu/NSM%20Technology/141_HCI%20Implementation%20on%20BlueCore%20(AN107d).pdf |
| 09:29.22 | PaulFertser | lindi-: that's nuts, it's easier to found something on the internet than on my harddisk. |
| 09:30.30 | dos1 | google desktop? :DD |
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| 09:33.22 | lindi- | dos1: ehm= |
| 09:34.49 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I could go to the local store and ask if I can try the headsets out but it'd help a lot if I had some known-to-work headset to try |
| 09:35.27 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i don't question that. It's just i'm afraid i can't help more. |
| 09:38.33 | lindi- | PaulFertser: ok. I'm quite sure _somebody_ must have made at least one GSM call with bluetooth headset. Otherwise I don't understand how they could have tested the alsa states for that |
| 09:39.05 | lindi- | I added a note that none of the listed headsets have actually been verified to work with GSM calls |
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| 09:42.33 | PaulFertser | lindi-: shoragan did that |
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| 09:43.11 | lindi- | PaulFertser: ok he should then mention the model and write explicitely that he tested GSM calls |
| 09:43.33 | oele2 | what could be causing a SIM not to be recognized ? |
| 09:43.42 | oele2 | (on a neo freerunner) |
| 09:44.10 | shoragan | PaulFertser, lindi-, i used a Plantronix Model 320 |
| 09:44.25 | lindi- | shoragan: and you were able to make a GSM call? |
| 09:44.28 | shoragan | yes |
| 09:44.32 | lindi- | shoragan: very cool |
| 09:44.36 | lindi- | shoragan: I'll add this to wiki |
| 09:44.39 | shoragan | some time ago though |
| 09:44.51 | shoragan | i havn't tested it again since :/ |
| 09:45.04 | PaulFertser | oele2: are you not using the latest GSM firmware? |
| 09:45.35 | PaulFertser | lindi-: hm, one workaround i haven't try is to disable eSCO... |
| 09:45.55 | oele2 | PaulFertser: I've never upgraded, and the command on the wiki doesn't work |
| 09:46.03 | oele2 | root@om-gta02:~# mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetInfo |
| 09:46.07 | oele2 | Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged |
| 09:46.11 | oele2 | Service name not found |
| 09:46.34 | PaulFertser | oele2: if you don't use the latest GSM firmware, i don't want to talk with you :P |
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| 09:47.40 | dns53 | is the firmware part of the distro? |
| 09:48.03 | PaulFertser | dns53: no |
| 09:48.47 | dns53 | any major advantages with new firmware? can you brick your device upgrading it? |
| 09:49.33 | PaulFertser | dns53: major advantages -- yes; bricking impossible. Read the wiki page for more information please. |
| 09:49.44 | leila | dns53: major advantage.. working gsm for me |
| 09:49.54 | dns53 | ok i'll look into it, thanks |
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| 09:51.17 | lindi- | shoragan: ok i'll try to figure out if I can buy that in Finland |
| 09:51.18 | PaulFertser | lindi-: a wild guess: probably disable_esco module parameter of sco.ko might help. |
| 09:52.04 | PaulFertser | lindi-: do you confirm you have the same symptoms as i had? Like everything works but no actual sound can be heard? |
| 09:52.06 | oele2 | PaulFertser: which is the most recent firmware ? Moko11 ? |
| 09:52.11 | PaulFertser | oele2: yes |
| 09:52.12 | lindi- | PaulFertser: yeah |
| 09:52.38 | PaulFertser | lindi-: if you can do a quick test, imho it worth a try with disable_esco |
| 09:52.40 | oele2 | PaulFertser: and how can I check the version installed ? |
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| 09:53.23 | leila | oele2: its moko8 if you have never upgraded it |
| 09:53.25 | lindi- | PaulFertser: maybe I should try that with my laptop? |
| 09:53.26 | PaulFertser | oele2: if you never upgraded it, do it. You can check it by starting mickeyterm and using AT+CGMR command. Or by other means. |
| 09:53.43 | PaulFertser | lindi-: laptop is irrelevant because my headset works with my laptop. |
| 09:53.56 | lindi- | PaulFertser: my headset does not work with my laptop |
| 09:54.16 | PaulFertser | lindi-: in exactly the same way? what exactly did you try to make it work? |
| 09:54.21 | lindi- | PaulFertser: yep |
| 09:54.43 | lindi- | PaulFertser: i'll need to continue this later in the evening, i don't have my notes with me now |
| 09:54.54 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i guess you used hsplay etc? |
| 09:54.56 | lindi- | (nfs server for /home is down for maintenance) |
| 09:55.38 | PaulFertser | lindi-: if you have CSR chip in your laptop then probably you'd have tweaked that eeprom parameter. |
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| 09:55.53 | lindi- | PaulFertser: i used external usb bt dongle |
| 09:56.28 | PaulFertser | lindi-: it doesn't prove it's not CSR ;) |
| 09:57.00 | SpeedEvil | Is 01 and 02 bluetooth config the same? - sam chiepset, ...? |
| 09:57.13 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: yes, exactly the same |
| 09:57.23 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: there're some differences in alsa driver though. |
| 09:58.18 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: i can port gta02 driver to gta01 but alsa states won't be one-to-one compatible anyway because gta01 uses an additional i2c-controllable amp. That said, i think gta02 driver is much better currently and it should be done anyway. |
| 09:59.05 | SpeedEvil | on a slightly related matter - digikey et al sell CsR chips - but often with no explanaation on the firmware that's on them, or no manual. (ROM'd chips) Is there a central list? - haven't found on CSR's site |
| 10:00.01 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: i'm afraid no :( CSR has some application notes that are mostly applicable to those chips, i guess. |
| 10:00.42 | SpeedEvil | k |
| 10:01.28 | PaulFertser | Guys, is it common all around the world that the girls want to change their surnames after registering relationships with husband at some state authorities? |
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| 10:02.17 | leila | PaulFertser: its normal that the girl gets the surname of the male when marrieing |
| 10:02.28 | PaulFertser | leila: really? WTF? |
| 10:02.42 | PaulFertser | leila: i hoped only russians girls are stupid enough to do that |
| 10:02.55 | leila | its optional these days tho. And as to why, no clue, must have something todo with church stuff |
| 10:03.19 | PaulFertser | leila: who cares about church nowadays |
| 10:03.38 | Zorkman | PaulFertser: they are sometimes still refered to with the surname of their husbands, but their OFFICIAL name never changes anymore as far as i know |
| 10:03.58 | PaulFertser | Zorkman: it's even more weird then :-/ |
| 10:04.04 | SpeedEvil | Zorkman: It depends. |
| 10:04.12 | SpeedEvil | Zorkman: In the UK, it certainly does. |
| 10:04.43 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: do girls change their surnames in UK too? |
| 10:04.44 | SpeedEvil | Zorkman: The law recognises the husband in other ways - for example - he's responsible for any child she may have. |
| 10:04.47 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 10:04.47 | leila | Hmm could also be introduced with Napoleon. That is when surnames have been invented |
| 10:04.50 | Zorkman | in belgium girls keep their surname |
| 10:05.15 | Zorkman | leila: thats why all of you dutchmen have weird surnames :p; you guys thought it was a joke :D |
| 10:05.30 | leila | Zorkman: yup, well some of us anyway |
| 10:05.39 | ndnihil | heh, here in the states some of them keep both names and add a hyphen |
| 10:05.50 | leila | that said... these days parents give all sorts of surnames to their children ... |
| 10:05.53 | ndnihil | but typically they take the surname |
| 10:05.54 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: do men add a hyphen too? |
| 10:05.59 | SpeedEvil | I thought that was usually taken away - if present at marriage ndnihil |
| 10:06.02 | ndnihil | no, men dont change their names at all |
| 10:07.45 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: that's inequality then, isn't it? |
| 10:07.45 | mjr | 'round here in Finland married people can both keep their names, or one can take the other's name, or one can take the other's name in addition to his/her own |
| 10:07.45 | ndnihil | nope, legally they can keep their own, take the mans, or hyphenate them both |
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| 10:07.46 | ndnihil | I'm not a fan of the hyphen |
| 10:07.46 | mjr | for traditional reasons the most common case probably still is the female taking the husband's name |
| 10:07.46 | ndnihil | kinda stupid if you ask me |
| 10:07.47 | PaulFertser | Changing one's name is kinda stupid in general imho |
| 10:07.48 | leila | to settle this: Its a choice, people should make themselves |
| 10:07.48 | ndnihil | for marriage it makes sense so you can follow family lineage |
| 10:07.48 | PaulFertser | Girls are stupid and make wrong choices :-/ |
| 10:07.52 | leila | PaulFertser: ... not just girls, politicians to |
| 10:08.05 | mjr | there are valid reasons for changing names. Like, if you don't like yours, or want distance from stupid relatives ;P |
| 10:08.18 | PaulFertser | leila: some politicians are stupid but some are smart motherfuckers. |
| 10:08.28 | ndnihil | or if your parents are dumb hippies and give you a stupid name |
| 10:08.43 | mjr | and there's something to be said about being unambiguously a part of the same family unit on a name level also |
| 10:08.56 | mjr | that said, me and the wife kept our own names |
| 10:09.12 | PaulFertser | mjr++ |
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| 10:09.24 | PaulFertser | My parents did the same (kept their names). |
| 10:09.33 | leila | mjr: not always the case here so it seems... I know different families with the same surname |
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| 10:09.45 | ndnihil | the thing with keeping your own names, is what name to the children take? |
| 10:09.52 | mjr | leila, well, _less_ ambiguously :) |
| 10:10.01 | leila | mjr: accepted ;) |
| 10:10.01 | ndnihil | s/to the/do the/g |
| 10:10.07 | ndnihil | stabs apt |
| 10:10.12 | mjr | ndnihil, around here, we get to choose, but all the kids will have the same name then |
| 10:10.18 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: i was given my father's and my brother was given my mother's. |
| 10:11.35 | mjr | my late mother at first kept her own name in addition to my father's (hyphenated), but that was when keeping one's o wn wasn't allowed for women. When the law changed to be more flexible, she dropped my father's name ;P |
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| 10:21.49 | PaulFertser | My friend's wife decided to change her surname and now she has to wait for the new ID for a month and because of that she can't buy a train ticket to go on vacation (in russia ID is required to go on long-distance trains). And when she finally gets her ID all the tickets will be already sold. Uber-stupidity. |
| 10:24.36 | leila | PaulFertser: slow goverment |
| 10:24.59 | leila | getting an id here takes 3 working days here, and that is because of the fancy plastic |
| 10:25.05 | ndnihil | she cant use her old name until the new id shows up? |
| 10:25.39 | PaulFertser | leila: no, that's not the main problem. The problem is that they didn't need to register their relationship anyway. That's first. And the second is that she could have choosen to change her surname later, whenever she likes. |
| 10:26.24 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: they took away your old ID and so one doesn't have an ID at all while exchanging. You can ask them for a temporary id but it's a hassle and i'm not sure it works for buying tickets. |
| 10:26.34 | ndnihil | ah |
| 10:27.10 | leila | PaulFertser: agreed, also bad planning on her side |
| 10:27.46 | PaulFertser | leila: at least usually she gives me some food when i visit them |
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| 12:17.56 | oele2 | PaulFertser: it works after gsm firmware upgrade |
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| 12:19.07 | badcloud | hey all |
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| 12:35.39 | PaulFertser | oele2: congratulations |
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| 12:38.48 | Q-Master | PaulFertser: can you tell me how to create my own splash for shr? |
| 12:39.27 | PaulFertser | Q-Master: no idea, really :) I think you can find some generic instructions for Linux. |
| 12:39.46 | Q-Master | PaulFertser: trying to, but no success |
| 12:39.52 | Q-Master | yet |
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| 12:49.22 | PaulFertser | Q-Master: take a look here: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr.git;a=blob;f=shr-splash/shr-splash.sh;h=b2fe0de754b3c88aae3862093b574b190c7f4410;hb=HEAD |
| 12:49.30 | leila | does anyone know how the qt mediaplyer works ? |
| 12:50.59 | Q-Master | PaulFertser: I've found some docs |
| 12:51.15 | Q-Master | PaulFertser: http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=:framebuffer |
| 12:51.31 | PaulFertser | Q-Master: it looks like SHR just writes splash image in raw FB format to FB. |
| 12:51.38 | Q-Master | yep |
| 12:52.11 | Q-Master | PaulFertser: I've just needed a tool to convert a png ro raw in exact needed format |
| 12:52.44 | PaulFertser | Q-Master: i guess there's one mentioned at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Configuring_the_boot_splash_screens |
| 12:52.53 | Q-Master | off |
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| 13:04.18 | badcloud | anyone know if there is a distro that works smoothly with this? http://www.freedominput.com/freedom-accessories/slim-keypad |
| 13:04.53 | badcloud | I've tried h1 and shr. in both I cannot reconnect a second time |
| 13:05.24 | badcloud | even though I have found a workaround for h1, but it involves pairing the device every time I want to use it |
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| 13:15.10 | rhaeder | found an always-reproduceable bug |
| 13:15.18 | rhaeder | it is in the Xglamo |
| 13:16.29 | rhaeder | it only occurs when omnewrotate is installed and the X server is starting |
| 13:16.57 | rhaeder | just put your FreeRunner on a flat table and wait for it boots. |
| 13:17.33 | SM2k | and then sneak up on it and shout? :-) |
| 13:18.07 | rhaeder | it will startup with the wrong orientation |
| 13:19.14 | rhaeder | and when you rotate in your hands to the right orientation (NEO is reable on bottom of your device) the full screen isn't used but a small white box in lower left corner is visible |
| 13:19.26 | rhaeder | *readable |
| 13:20.28 | rhaeder | I have offical release (testing5) here in use |
| 13:20.36 | rhaeder | hardware is GTA02v6 |
| 13:22.13 | rhaeder | and I *think* the paroli application is not in fullscreen mode |
| 13:22.23 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: Xglamo is not maintained and deprecated |
| 13:22.31 | rhaeder | :( |
| 13:22.38 | rhaeder | but still in repos? |
| 13:22.53 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: yes |
| 13:23.07 | rhaeder | so no need to update? |
| 13:26.27 | PaulFertser | rhaeder: you might want to update to xorg-glamo driver instead. |
| 13:29.14 | rhaeder | which package? or what do I have to change? |
| 13:32.40 | rhaeder | oh, no. no patching and compiling :( |
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| 13:37.52 | rhaeder | opkg list | grep xorg <-- didn't turn up any package |
| 13:39.52 | max_posedon | because xorg-glamo isn't in feeds |
| 13:40.03 | max_posedon | and I'm not sure that it ready to use |
| 13:40.20 | max_posedon | e.g. it works nice, but how its stable now? |
| 13:40.30 | rhaeder | xserver-kdrive-glamo <-- is this the current and deprecated package? |
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| 13:41.29 | max_posedon | yes |
| 13:41.46 | rhaeder | ok |
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| 13:43.34 | leila | bye all |
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| 13:51.02 | fredrin | i need to turn up the sound in SHR-unstable so i can hear the other person i'm talking too, what channel do i need to adjust? |
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| 14:07.06 | rhaeder | fredrin: I think at least the Master and PCM |
| 14:07.28 | rhaeder | try alsamixer from ssh session |
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| 14:33.33 | rhaeder | my freerunner crashed again :( |
| 14:33.42 | rhaeder | just launched tangogps and ceelhunter |
| 14:33.46 | rhaeder | cellhunter |
| 14:36.12 | rhaeder | maybe I can save the portmap daemon? |
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| 14:54.56 | rhaeder | the portmapper was not required by any packages. I have removed him to save some mem |
| 14:55.55 | rhaeder | ok, I go home :) |
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| 15:24.13 | DocScrutinizer | fredrin: see wiki freerunner-audio |
| 15:25.03 | DocScrutinizer | fredrin: PCM isn't related at all to GSM |
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| 15:52.20 | DocScrutinizer | fredrin: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Alsamixer_channel_controls |
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| 16:00.09 | slaxxer | paroli time/ |
| 16:01.58 | slaxxer | Fortune finishes the great quotations, #12 |
| 16:01.59 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:11.54 | PBeck | ahoi |
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| 16:20.53 | slaxxer | how is the latest daily fso-paroli? |
| 16:22.22 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5203 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (9 files): New sheet - bt.sch |
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| 16:32.57 | slaxxer | paroli takes too long to boot |
| 16:34.09 | slaxxer | grey-black theme is nice |
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| 16:43.57 | skamster_ | hello there |
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| 16:44.08 | skamster_ | i've got a problem with wlan on the android |
| 16:44.12 | skamster_ | root@skamster-laptop:/home/skamster/Downloads# ./adb push wpa_supplicant.conf /etc/wifi |
| 16:44.12 | skamster_ | failed to copy 'wpa_supplicant.conf' to '/etc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf': Read-only file system |
| 16:44.12 | skamster_ | root@skamster-laptop:/home/skamster/Downloads# ./adb shell mount -o remount,rw /dev/root / |
| 16:44.12 | skamster_ | root@skamster-laptop:/home/skamster/Downloads# ./adb push wpa_supplicant.conf /etc/wifi |
| 16:44.12 | skamster_ | failed to copy 'wpa_supplicant.conf' to '/etc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf': Read-only file system |
| 16:44.14 | skamster_ | root@skamster-laptop:/home/skamster/Downloads# |
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| 16:44.41 | ndnihil | consider yourself lucky if that's the only problem you're having with wpa_supplicant |
| 16:44.49 | skamster_ | i tried like in the wiki... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_usage |
| 16:45.30 | skamster_ | it's not a problem with wpa-supplicant, i think.. i couldn't upload it, because it said, it's a read-only-fs |
| 16:45.46 | ndnihil | that was humor (kinda) |
| 16:45.48 | skamster_ | but i remount it as rw, so it's should work |
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| 16:46.08 | skamster_ | :) |
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| 16:49.10 | skamster_ | so is there a idea, how i could fix this? |
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| 16:49.32 | skamster_ | with ls i didn't found a device named root |
| 16:49.33 | ndnihil | can you write to the filesystem locally? |
| 16:50.21 | skamster_ | yes |
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| 16:51.35 | ndnihil | sounds like adb is broken |
| 16:51.35 | skamster_ | i think, i should remount another device than root..? |
| 16:51.37 | ndnihil | what is adb? |
| 16:51.51 | ndnihil | android specific tool I'm assuming? |
| 16:52.04 | skamster_ | 1.0.20 |
| 16:52.13 | skamster_ | ah |
| 16:52.14 | skamster_ | yes |
| 16:52.38 | ndnihil | does it have ssh? |
| 16:52.50 | skamster_ | i would make this in another way, but adb is the only way to "speak" with the moko |
| 16:52.57 | skamster_ | no, android hasn't |
| 16:53.10 | skamster_ | sry, away for a moment |
| 16:53.13 | skamster_ | :$ |
| 16:53.36 | ndnihil | no clue, maybe #openmoko-android (or whatever it's named) will have more of an idea |
| 16:53.49 | max_posedon | #freerunner-android |
| 16:54.00 | ndnihil | ^what he said |
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| 16:57.06 | skamster_ | oke, thx |
| 16:57.08 | skamster_ | :) |
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| 17:17.58 | Digital_Pioneer | lindi-: Nope, never got it working. :( |
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| 17:47.56 | slaxxer | will the latest shr an Qi play nicely? |
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| 17:53.19 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i've got another headset here, some old SE original model. I've just connected my PSU to a charging cable, will try to charge (if that fails i'll desolder the battery and connect PSU directly) and if it works i'll report the results. |
| 17:53.23 | PaulFertser | slaxxer: yes |
| 17:54.54 | PaulFertser | slaxxer: the latest shr and the latest Qi (not the version distributed by koolu) should work together well. |
| 17:55.10 | slaxxer | paul great |
| 17:55.53 | PaulFertser | slaxxer: also booting and suspend/resume time is reported to be less comparing to u-boot but i can't say exactly because i've never used u-boot on FR. |
| 17:56.31 | slaxxer | as long as it doesnt white screen or some crap |
| 17:57.37 | PaulFertser | slaxxer: Qi never touches LCM! |
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| 17:59.04 | slaxxer | it boots from nor ok |
| 17:59.57 | PaulFertser | slaxxer: who boots? |
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| 18:22.34 | sybren | hi folks! |
| 18:23.14 | sybren | I just bought a Neo Freerunner, flashed it to Om2008.12. The wiki tells me I should be able to find a wifi GUI somewhere, but I can't seem to find it... |
| 18:24.25 | Blu3 | reflash it with 2009 |
| 18:24.51 | max_posedon | but in 2009 you wont find wifi gui too I think |
| 18:25.13 | Blu3 | not immediately, but it can be added. and 2009 is just better :) |
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| 18:30.38 | slaxxer | better to use shr |
| 18:30.43 | eolson | sybren, congrats on your new phone :) the people here are pretty helpful ( I use and like SHR by the way, but the older GTA01 I have doesn't have wifi, so I'm not much help) |
| 18:31.35 | [Rui] | grumble... why do elm_entries wrap on every single word instead of at window limit? |
| 18:32.20 | [Rui] | ok, it's not every word, just a very small widget size :( |
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| 18:32.40 | slaxxer | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20090617-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 18:33.09 | slaxxer | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119819+5a6ed99264c704e517ac312283c58204ee38fee5-r3.5-om-gta02.bin |
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| 18:33.32 | [Rui] | but all I see to handle size are "hints" and they seem to require absolute values instead of relative ones... |
| 18:34.25 | slaxxer | sybren those work well |
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| 18:36.32 | Blu3 | rui, another buglet which further prompted me to make my own sms app |
| 18:38.00 | [Rui] | Blu3: what do you mean? |
| 18:38.29 | Blu3 | it's hard writing a message to someone when it's nearly one word per line and you're writing a paragraph |
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| 18:39.54 | [Rui] | Blu3: ? |
| 18:40.20 | Blu3 | <[Rui]> grumble... why do elm_entries wrap on every single word instead of at window limit? |
| 18:41.11 | sybren | Blu3: I'll try 2009 then ;-) |
| 18:41.14 | [Rui] | Blu3: doesn't paroli sms use libelm? |
| 18:41.27 | [Rui] | Blu3: I don't see that in there |
| 18:41.31 | Blu3 | i've no idea. i actually use shr-unstable |
| 18:41.39 | sybren | what's shr? |
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| 18:41.46 | Blu3 | another distribution |
| 18:41.52 | beer__ | shr is anothe dist |
| 18:42.01 | beer__ | you can also try qt moko http://qtmoko.org/ |
| 18:42.19 | beer__ | http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtmoko/snapbuild/20090616/ <- rootfs and kernel |
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| 18:43.23 | sybren | beer__: I see GPS is untested - I really want GPS as it's one of the major reasons to switch phones |
| 18:43.51 | sybren | and GTalk isn't a requirement for me, but a generic Jabber client would be nice to have... |
| 18:48.23 | beer__ | I can inform you that GPS work on qt moko but it get the first cords slowly |
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| 18:50.26 | sybren | beer__: thanks |
| 18:50.33 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i had to fully diassemble that shit to actually start charging it, as wires connecting battery compartment were cut off (moving parts are always nasty). I now doubt it's original SE because there's too much glue used to secure the parts. |
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| 18:57.57 | lindi- | PaulFertser: disassemble what? |
| 18:58.40 | PaulFertser | lindi-: some time ago i was given a BT headset branded SE. Talking to you today made me finally try to use it. |
| 18:58.50 | lindi- | ah |
| 18:58.58 | lindi- | PaulFertser: were you able to make a call? |
| 19:00.01 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i've just disassembled it, soldered the battery directly and started to charge. The 2 batteries were at 0V when i started so some time's needed to start testing BT. |
| 19:00.52 | PaulFertser | (if it works at all) |
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| 19:31.15 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rdd0de54a1acd 10/fsodeviced/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fsodevice: remove all traces of libascenario |
| 19:31.16 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r341b804d0b2b 10/libfsoframework/ (fsoframework/alsa.vala tests/testsoundsystem.vala): |
| 19:31.16 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: fsoframework: alsa: looks like on writing, control indices start with '0', |
| 19:31.16 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: while they start with '1' on reading *sigh* |
| 19:32.09 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r520e843cd1b1 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/alsa_audio/plugin.vala: fsodevice: alsa_audio: implement scenario handling with new code |
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| 19:53.20 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r3ef0831b210a 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/common.vala: fsoframework: common: remove assert in favour of real error message |
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| 21:34.14 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r04161a1904a7 10fso-monitord/src/monitor.vala: |
| 21:34.14 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: Moved some parts from Monitor to contruct |
| 21:34.14 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Frederik 'playya' Sdun <Frederik.Sdun@googlemail.com> |
| 21:34.14 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r3a006959f812 10fso-monitord/src/monitor.vala: Added debug outpu for NameOwnerChanged |
| 21:34.17 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r56c4db7cbcf0 10fso-monitord/src/monitor.vala: Remove first ping for run() |
| 21:34.20 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * rf34fad0727d4 10fso-monitord/src/monitor.vala: Add Object name for ping debugging |
| 21:34.23 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r054e82d7ae46 10fso-monitord/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:34.26 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: Start porting to libfso-glib |
| 21:34.28 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: Moved to namespace FreeSmartphone.Monitor to avoid conflicts |
| 21:34.30 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r8e98a576b738 10fso-monitord/src/device.vala: Ported PowerControl to fso-glib |
| 21:34.33 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r4271ef4813ed 10fso-monitord/src/logger.vala: Add enum_to_string to log enums for fso-glib |
| 21:34.36 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r61067a21bfb8 10fso-monitord/src/ (device.vala logger.vala): Port PowerSupply to fso-glib |
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