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| 03:56.32 | Slaxxer | wow was that fast or what |
| 03:57.20 | Slaxxer | 2.43 seconds |
| 03:57.50 | Slaxxer | 2.18 seconds |
| 03:58.17 | Slaxxer | nice kernel |
| 03:58.59 | Slaxxer | guitar tuner still broken |
| 03:59.23 | Slaxxer | i could sell this if that 1 program worked |
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| 07:42.43 | Defiant | dyndns.org down? |
| 07:43.17 | Ko_deZ | http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ <-- empty. Why? Supposed to be like that? |
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| 07:59.53 | Ko_deZ | Noone knows? I would like to update my Om2009 installation, but that seems to be impossible. |
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| 08:00.34 | Ko_deZ | I am contemplating on testing the experimental version now, but prefer not to. |
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| 08:02.48 | PaulFertser | Ko_deZ: testing? |
| 08:02.58 | PaulFertser | Ko_deZ: OM2009 has no testing i guess |
| 08:03.41 | PaulFertser | Ko_deZ: at least nobody maintains repositories for non-current versions (and testing is non-current). |
| 08:04.42 | Ko_deZ | Okay. I followed the instructions from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009#Installing |
| 08:05.15 | Ko_deZ | And running opkg update after booting results in errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/Packages.gz, error 404 |
| 08:10.50 | PaulFertser | Ko_deZ: well, that's how it is. |
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| 14:16.43 | mihairu | hi all, what is console image on OM2009? |
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| 14:41.20 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r8c8f665dd480 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Usage: create enumeration for SystemAction |
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| 14:43.19 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * r2dd1e7dbcd34 10/.gitignore: refresh; add .gitignore |
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| 15:51.08 | bipak | does someone know if the wifi works stable now? or is it a hardware/firmewar problem, which probably will never be solved |
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| 15:54.41 | lindi- | bipak: it's kernel bug |
| 15:54.57 | lindi- | bipak: there is also firmware issue but it's not as severe at all |
| 15:55.56 | bipak | is someone working on it? |
| 15:55.57 | linuxxr | latest shr-unstable kernel has 2 second resume |
| 15:56.02 | lindi- | bipak: see the ticket |
| 15:56.18 | bipak | you know the number? |
| 15:56.42 | lindi- | bipak: not by heart but I can search. http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py?q=wifi |
| 15:57.00 | bipak | not bad ;) |
| 15:57.01 | bipak | thx |
| 15:57.50 | lindi- | bipak: but yes, that's almost #1 bug for me right now |
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| 16:04.20 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rd4755ce1396d 10/fsodeviced/src/lib/ (Makefile.am resource.vala): |
| 16:04.20 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: lib: add AbstractSimpleResource and BasePowerControlResource. |
| 16:04.20 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: The former encapsulating the connection to org.freesmartphone.usaged, |
| 16:04.20 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: the latter exports a BasePowerControl as a FSO Resource. |
| 16:04.20 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r923aaf6195be 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/openmoko_powercontrol/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: openmoko_powercontrol: register Bluetooth and WiFi as FSO Resources |
| 16:07.34 | mihairu | is possible to somehow turn off suspend while on usb power? (OM2009) |
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| 19:55.45 | mihairu | hi all...at openmoko wiki is gnuboy...have anybody working source? |
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| 19:56.25 | Zorkman | mihairu: i know the creator, i could ask him for the sources |
| 19:56.50 | Zorkman | mihairu: if you pm me your e-mail adres i could contact him |
| 19:57.32 | mihairu | Zorkman: Thank you very much :) |
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| 19:59.31 | Zorkman | np |
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| 20:44.18 | Zorkman | mihairu: you've got mail |
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| 20:48.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03rehar * r5130 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/ (INFO STATUS): |
| 20:48.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Review of: |
| 20:48.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - rt9013, rt9702a, rt9711_bd_5, si1040x |
| 20:48.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - sw_push_4, vibrator, R_PACK4, CRYSTAL |
| 20:48.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - mini_usb_b, ms2v-t1s, tas4025a |
| 20:48.35 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Added Chip Resistor Array (RTA02-4Dxx) data sheet to INFO |
| 20:51.53 | mihairu | Zorkman: yeah i've got it, very nice :) |
| 20:52.06 | mihairu | btw: is possible to remap aux button on om2009? |
| 20:52.13 | mihairu | i need it for scummvm |
| 20:54.49 | Zorkman | mihairu: don't know on om2009 |
| 20:55.04 | Zorkman | but i think it is since it uses fso |
| 20:55.41 | Zorkman | TAsn made an app to do that nicely |
| 20:55.57 | TAsn | Zorkman, :) |
| 20:56.03 | TAsn | siglaunchd should work on om209 |
| 20:56.05 | TAsn | 2009* |
| 20:56.17 | TAsn | but I don't think that's what he meant |
| 20:56.24 | Zorkman | (you see the money you give me to promote it is well spend TAsn ;-)) |
| 20:56.31 | TAsn | hehe, yeah. :) |
| 20:56.42 | Zorkman | TAsn: can't that be used for remapping AUX? |
| 20:56.58 | Zorkman | mihairu: there is also an option in the illume config to map hardware buttons |
| 20:56.58 | TAsn | I think he means he wants to make it act as the CTRL key |
| 20:57.00 | TAsn | or something |
| 20:57.07 | TAsn | Zorkman, that's more like |
| 20:57.08 | TAsn | it |
| 20:57.08 | Zorkman | (F5 or F6 i think :)) |
| 20:57.09 | TAsn | :) |
| 20:57.19 | TAsn | I don't really know om2009 |
| 20:57.52 | mihairu | mmm |
| 20:57.54 | Zorkman | mihairu: click on illume's wrench, then Input and then Key bindings |
| 20:58.19 | mihairu | Zorkman: i don't have a wrench on paroli-serenity settings :/ |
| 20:58.36 | mihairu | but thx for advice :) |
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| 20:59.14 | Zorkman | mmm doesn't om2009 have the illume top bar? |
| 20:59.24 | Zorkman | anyway, that would be a simple way |
| 20:59.52 | Zorkman | but i think siglaunchd could also be used (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Siglaunchd) |
| 21:00.00 | mihairu | Zorkman: yeah it has top bar but not wrench icon |
| 21:00.20 | Zorkman | really..... WHY DOESNT IT HAVE THAT WRENCH?? |
| 21:00.34 | Zorkman | isn't that something people have been nagging about ever since the first 2008.x? |
| 21:01.04 | mihairu | don't ask me :) |
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| 21:05.26 | mihairu | and is possible to run settings without wrench? |
| 21:08.07 | Zorkman | mihairu: maybe... but I don't know a way |
| 21:08.19 | Zorkman | mihairu: install shr :p |
| 21:08.42 | raster | no way |
| 21:08.47 | mihairu | Zorkman: i like paroli...i hate that shr have sms on sim |
| 21:08.51 | raster | if u go and remove/hide all of e's ui/controls |
| 21:08.55 | raster | then u are pretty much stuffed |
| 21:08.59 | Zorkman | or ask Mirko or someone active in 2009-devel to add that wrench |
| 21:09.10 | Zorkman | raster: why the hell don't they include that wrench? |
| 21:09.20 | raster | much like asking "can i get gimp's file open dialog" when gimps' window is minimised/hidden |
| 21:09.31 | raster | u are removing e's ui |
| 21:09.34 | Zorkman | it's just like "the old day" with no qwerty button "for our own good" grrrrr |
| 21:09.35 | raster | thus - removing its features |
| 21:09.56 | raster | ask sean |
| 21:10.01 | raster | he's the "designer" |
| 21:10.09 | raster | he specified what you will get and how it will work/look |
| 21:10.26 | raster | it is not my place to disagree or change that |
| 21:10.31 | raster | nor yours |
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| 21:12.07 | PaulFertser | What is Lai's role? |
| 21:16.09 | raster | not sure |
| 21:16.58 | PaulFertser | raster: so is it the time to ask you about batgat again? (sorry for persistence) |
| 21:17.41 | raster | batget or hal? |
| 21:18.22 | PaulFertser | raster: enlightment code that computes percentage from values provided by hal. |
| 21:18.32 | PaulFertser | raster: not internal battery gadget mechanisms. |
| 21:18.55 | PaulFertser | raster: So do you agree that batget hal code should be fixed to calculate the percentage only for those devices that have a maximum and current capacity expressed in some sane units (mAh) and that will ignore both apm emulated battery (it provides only percentage) and usb (that has no |
| 21:19.00 | PaulFertser | capacity attribute at all)? |
| 21:19.20 | PaulFertser | (i seem to be using "batget" word in some wrong confusing way, sorry for that) |
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| 21:20.28 | raster | no |
| 21:20.31 | raster | i disagree |
| 21:20.55 | raster | as it is a hal problem that it exposes the same battery device twice as 2 hal batteries |
| 21:21.30 | PaulFertser | raster: i agree that it's a hal problem. |
| 21:21.32 | PaulFertser | raster: but |
| 21:21.51 | raster | but e should be working around hal's bugs? |
| 21:21.52 | PaulFertser | Why on earth anyone will want to see averaged _percentages_? |
| 21:21.54 | PaulFertser | No |
| 21:22.23 | raster | because in general if u have multiple batteries they have roughly the same capacity |
| 21:22.26 | PaulFertser | E should do the right thing and sum all the capacity that could be available and provide user with percentage of available capacity. |
| 21:22.52 | raster | yes - and i should fix the code to do that if no devices provide percentage only |
| 21:23.07 | raster | IF one only provides percentage.. then drop back to a percentage average |
| 21:23.08 | PaulFertser | And if not? I think E should be generic enough to handle the case where you have one main battery and one backup battery that is only 1/10th of capacity e.g. |
| 21:23.42 | PaulFertser | I'd say: if only one device available and it provides percentage, fine, let it be it. |
| 21:24.04 | SpeedEvil | Forex, one old mostly broken battery of nominally equal capacity, and a newer battery that the user just bought |
| 21:24.11 | PaulFertser | If several devices exists and at least one of them provides capacity, go for capacity way, ignore the devices that don't provide it. |
| 21:24.30 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: we're talking about using several batteries in device at the same time. |
| 21:24.37 | SpeedEvil | I know |
| 21:24.50 | SpeedEvil | I've for example gotten a second hand thinkpad. |
| 21:25.07 | SpeedEvil | And I'm contemplating buying a new battery, which would leave me in the above situation |
| 21:25.34 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: can you attach both batteries at the same time so they'll be visible as separate devices by the hardware? |
| 21:25.38 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 21:25.53 | SpeedEvil | (if I went for some of the possible options) |
| 21:26.23 | SpeedEvil | Even in the 'new' case - the batteries can differ by a factor of two - the add-on-base battery, and the extended battery |
| 21:26.30 | SpeedEvil | Which can be plugged in at the same time |
| 21:26.49 | PaulFertser | raster: you see? |
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| 21:28.29 | raster | in the case of multiple real modern batteries |
| 21:28.35 | raster | u will get multiple real capacities |
| 21:28.53 | PaulFertser | True. |
| 21:29.08 | PaulFertser | And apm-emulated crap should be just ignored. Because it doesn't provide capacity. |
| 21:29.41 | raster | but it is a battery |
| 21:29.52 | PaulFertser | IIF no device provides capacity, averaging percentages can make some sense. |
| 21:29.52 | raster | in the case u have an apm device - u can do nothnig but fall back to a dumb mode |
| 21:30.04 | raster | yup |
| 21:30.19 | raster | then u can only guess "well maybe they are about the same" |
| 21:30.35 | raster | technically it is possible for a device to only provide percentages |
| 21:30.35 | PaulFertser | But if you see several devices, one of which provides capacity, and one of which doesn't, i think it'd be reasonable to just ignore the device that doesn't. |
| 21:30.37 | raster | even if its modern |
| 21:30.46 | raster | if the driver writer didnt expose the internal values |
| 21:30.56 | SpeedEvil | Also - the batteries may discharge together, or in sequence |
| 21:32.33 | raster | indeed |
| 21:32.44 | raster | and you dont know until you observe it for a while |
| 21:32.55 | raster | even then... bat 1 may discharge a little |
| 21:32.59 | raster | just due ot natural discharge |
| 21:33.02 | raster | even tho its not used |
| 21:33.02 | raster | etc. |
| 21:34.24 | mihairu | Zorkman....hmm i tried illume theme (with wrench) but i cant change aux key (it seems that paroli catches it) |
| 21:34.59 | raster | if another app grabs a key |
| 21:35.05 | raster | then no other x app can use it |
| 21:35.11 | raster | normaslly wm's grab keys for shortcuts |
| 21:35.16 | raster | eg alt+tab etc. |
| 21:35.21 | raster | so then apps cant get it |
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| 21:35.25 | raster | but it also works the other way around |
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| 21:36.13 | mihairu | or if i can remap power button for while (scummvm run) |
| 21:36.41 | mihairu | its 'execute' keybinding, isnt? |
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| 21:39.28 | raster | ? |
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