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| 00:09.18 | lord-carlos | Hi |
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| 00:10.05 | lord-carlos | I got SHR testing, and after about 10 seconds the wifi connection dies |
| 00:10.22 | lord-carlos | Somebody knows why? Or how i can fix that? |
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| 05:10.58 | Quadduc | What happened to http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ ? I actually need it. |
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| 06:40.13 | Psi_ | where abouts is the gta01 circuit diagram on the wiki? |
| 06:41.09 | PaulFertser | Psi_: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/ |
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| 06:41.30 | Psi_ | thanks |
| 06:41.37 | PaulFertser | Psi_: btw, i think you've probably disabled GSM in not exactly correct way. |
| 06:42.01 | Psi_ | i was doing at@poff |
| 06:42.11 | Psi_ | and after that it stopped going OK to AT so it was off |
| 06:42.32 | PaulFertser | Psi_: for GTA01 to properly turn on GSM one needs to ensure that he can communicate with it, then do AT@POFF, ensure that he can't communicate no more and then (mandatory) echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on |
| 06:42.41 | PaulFertser | s/turn on/turn off/ |
| 06:42.54 | Psi_ | ah, ok |
| 06:43.23 | PaulFertser | Psi_: otherwise it'll leave output serial lines connected to the disabled modem feeding it. |
| 06:45.41 | Psi_ | LOL @ big NDA black area of pdf |
| 06:45.47 | PaulFertser | Psi_: and after you do echo 0 > ... it will switch the multiplexer to connect that SoC serial port to debug board connector, so it shouldn't consume any more power. |
| 06:46.43 | PaulFertser | Psi_: also of interest is the current consumption with all the system running but the display off. I suspect it can still consume parasitic current through control lines. At least that'd explain high consumption with display off. |
| 06:47.17 | Psi_ | the display consuming power when off? |
| 06:47.43 | DocScrutinizer | winks, yawns, turns around to have a little more sleep |
| 06:51.34 | PaulFertser | Psi_: that's a suspicion. Otherwise gta01 would last longer idling with display off. |
| 06:53.16 | Psi_ | hm.. is there a backup battery inside gta01 somewhere? |
| 06:53.36 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 06:53.36 | PaulFertser | Psi_: not sure, i can say there's one in gta02 to keep time but it's mostly defective. |
| 06:54.31 | Psi_ | just noticed a battery in the gta01 datasheet and wondered |
| 06:55.27 | DocScrutinizer | bupbat same 01 02 |
| 06:56.25 | PaulFertser | Same broken stuff? Nice :) |
| 06:57.45 | DocScrutinizer | see wiki photo pcb |
| 06:58.10 | doc|home | PaulFertser: when you say mostly defective, what do you mean? They need to be replaced? Big job? |
| 06:58.35 | DocScrutinizer | night, don't disturb me ;-) |
| 06:58.37 | PaulFertser | doc|home: i think nobody cares that they loose RTC time when they take the main battery out. |
| 06:58.49 | PaulFertser | Doc :) |
| 06:58.57 | doc|home | PaulFertser: mine doesn't even record the time an SMS arrives correctly :( |
| 06:59.57 | PaulFertser | doc|home: unrelated |
| 07:00.23 | doc|home | hmm |
| 07:00.25 | doc|home | night |
| 07:00.53 | PaulFertser | doc|home: moreover timestamp in SMS is set by smscenter or even by sender. |
| 07:01.44 | doc|home | PaulFertser: I think it's being marked correctly in the system, just not being displayed correctly. Someone had me run something to do with dbus to view the messages iirc and the dates were good |
| 07:01.55 | doc|home | anyway, zZzZz time for me, before I collapse |
| 07:02.22 | PaulFertser | doc|home: night |
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| 07:15.04 | Psi_ | hm.. all theses O ohm resistors do look to make things easier |
| 07:15.22 | PaulFertser | Psi_: and yes, it looks like sdio control lines are not properly disabled when SD should be powered off. |
| 07:16.03 | Psi_ | is that a software or hardware problem? |
| 07:16.24 | PaulFertser | Psi_: purely software |
| 07:16.46 | PaulFertser | Psi_: are you comfortable with compiling a patched kernel? |
| 07:17.39 | Psi_ | ive only ever compiled a kernel for my x86 linux box. no idea how to compile something for a different cpu type |
| 07:19.37 | PaulFertser | Psi_: i can compile a patched kernel for you to try but you'll need to download modules tarball and my upload speed is low (~50 kB/s) |
| 07:19.58 | Psi_ | i could probably handle that |
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| 07:27.41 | PaulFertser | Psi_: please download kernel and modules (!) from https://paulfertser.is-a-geek.org/files/gta01/ (26M overall) |
| 07:28.14 | PaulFertser | Psi_: the only change is to try to really cut power to SD card when it's off so it shouldn't consume anything in suspend. |
| 07:28.48 | PaulFertser | Psi_: (for other tests you won't need to download the whole modules archive because the version will be the same). |
| 07:29.16 | Psi_ | do i need the snd ko and qi udfu |
| 07:29.26 | PaulFertser | Psi_: no, only kernel and modules |
| 07:29.31 | Psi_ | downloads |
| 07:29.47 | PaulFertser | Psi_: obviously modules should be untared in / |
| 07:29.54 | Psi_ | ok |
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| 07:38.03 | Psi_ | whats with the IRDA stuff on the headset jack? |
| 07:38.12 | Psi_ | didnt think gta01 had any irda stuff at all |
| 07:38.34 | PaulFertser | Psi_: it's not irda, it's a serial debug uart of calypso. |
| 07:38.51 | Psi_ | ah |
| 07:39.02 | PaulFertser | Psi_: used on factory to calibrate the device. Before arm FLUID release it was also the only way to flash the gsm firmware. |
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| 07:39.33 | PaulFertser | Psi_: calypso constantly outputs some debugging information on its debug uart. |
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| 07:46.13 | Psi_ | any idea what it means when a resistor has NC for its value? |
| 07:48.28 | PaulFertser | Psi_: yes |
| 07:48.34 | PaulFertser | Psi_: it means the registor is not installed. |
| 07:48.37 | PaulFertser | Not Connected |
| 07:48.49 | Psi_ | so its just a pad with no resistor |
| 07:49.09 | PaulFertser | Yes |
| 07:49.11 | Psi_ | ok |
| 07:50.11 | PaulFertser | Two pads ;) |
| 07:50.17 | Psi_ | heh yeah |
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| 07:56.41 | Psi_ | hm.. all the 0 ohms are under a metal shield |
| 07:56.45 | Psi_ | that makes it more tricky |
| 07:57.01 | Psi_ | any idea if its soldered or pressed on? |
| 07:58.11 | PaulFertser | Psi_: metal shield can be easily dismounted. |
| 07:58.16 | PaulFertser | Psi_: but slowly and carefully |
| 07:58.25 | PaulFertser | Psi_: you can use some pin-pointed knife for that. |
| 07:58.31 | Psi_ | so its not soldered on? |
| 07:58.37 | PaulFertser | Psi_: don't push too hard or you will damage the holder. |
| 07:58.51 | PaulFertser | Psi_: holder is soldered, but the can itself is clipped on the holder. |
| 07:58.57 | Psi_ | ah |
| 07:59.12 | Psi_ | should be fine then |
| 07:59.14 | PaulFertser | Psi_: you need to go in circle, trying to lift it a little bit in every accessible place. |
| 07:59.56 | PaulFertser | Psi_: do several iterations, every time lifting a little. It can take 5-10 minutes, just be patient and careful to not damage components outside the can. Do not push hard, it will come off itself. |
| 08:00.24 | Psi_ | ok |
| 08:00.25 | Psi_ | thanks |
| 08:00.37 | PaulFertser | Psi_: and btw i guess you can try to avoid desoldering Rs for now as it seems there's enough software problems to fix first. |
| 08:00.50 | Psi_ | heh |
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| 08:02.40 | PaulFertser | Psi_: btw, R1701 (do pdf search) looks suspiciously low to me. I might be dead wrong but check it out (not that it makes much of a difference...) |
| 08:02.42 | Psi_ | lets hope the sdio lines prob is the biggest cause of power loss |
| 08:02.51 | Psi_ | looks |
| 08:02.56 | PaulFertser | Psi_: i also suspect the same issue with LCM |
| 08:04.00 | PaulFertser | Psi_: and that is probably the biggest obstacle as gta01 should live long enough with LCM off and it doesn't. |
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| 08:07.23 | PaulFertser | Psi_: for that stuff one needs to check AM6423P datasheet as i don't quite understand how it works. |
| 08:07.32 | PaulFertser | Psi_: ^^ talking about R1701 |
| 08:07.46 | Psi_ | yeah, im just trying to find it |
| 08:08.25 | PaulFertser | Psi_: have you already downloaded the kernel? |
| 08:08.50 | Psi_ | nope, getting kernel now |
| 08:14.25 | PaulFertser | Psi_: sorry, but testing LCM stuff will take longer because i can't find where the relevant gpio's are initialized. |
| 08:15.08 | PaulFertser | Other devices specify GPIO values but gta01 somehow lacks it and still works... |
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| 08:17.36 | Psi_ | ive got both the kernel and modules now |
| 08:21.10 | PaulFertser | Psi_: i think the best approach to testing LCM consumption would be to: 1. (i think you've already done that) disable frameworkd/whatever startup, so GSM modem is not turned on |
| 08:21.34 | PaulFertser | Psi_: 2. attach serial console (with GSM and serial console share the same UART, so GSM shouldn't be enabled) |
| 08:23.06 | PaulFertser | Psi_: 3. check the current. Blank the display (with xset s 1, e.g.). Check the current. Check LCD lines with 's3c24xx-gpio' utility and turn them to inputs (in case they're not, and it looks like that) one by one checking the current inbetween. |
| 08:23.53 | Psi_ | ya |
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| 08:26.10 | PaulFertser | Psi_: what's the ETA for you to test if my patched changed suspend consumption with SD inserted? |
| 08:26.14 | PaulFertser | needs to go... |
| 08:26.34 | Psi_ | not for a little while |
| 08:26.39 | Psi_ | have to go make dinner |
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| 08:26.51 | Psi_ | not sure if ill have time today or not |
| 08:27.01 | Psi_ | its 830pm here |
| 08:27.32 | Psi_ | i really need to make a proper test rig up, so i can connect gta01 to the power supply |
| 08:27.39 | PaulFertser | Psi_: ok, don't forget to ping me when you got any results. |
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| 08:27.46 | PaulFertser | Psi_: and thanks a lot for you work :) |
| 08:27.50 | Psi_ | yep, youll be the first to know |
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| 08:27.57 | Psi_ | no probs |
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| 08:29.05 | Psi_ | oh right, its a charging circuit |
| 08:29.11 | Psi_ | now it makes a bit more sence |
| 08:29.19 | Psi_ | *sense |
| 08:29.43 | Psi_ | i couldnt work out why power was going the wrong way, hehe |
| 08:29.50 | Psi_ | ok dinner time |
| 08:30.27 | Psi_ | and yeah, 1k does seem much lower than needed |
| 08:30.34 | Psi_ | will investigate later |
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| 14:59.20 | Etu | is testing the Om2009 jffs |
| 14:59.48 | Etu | I can't navigate |
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| 15:00.46 | Etu | With Paroli |
| 15:00.55 | Etu | I don' |
| 15:01.13 | Etu | I don't know if the screen is locked or smething |
| 15:01.28 | Etu | When it fades out I can touch and it comes back |
| 15:01.45 | Etu | But I cant use items |
| 15:02.36 | linuxxr | hold asux button 3-4 seconds |
| 15:02.38 | dos1 | Etu: you have to wait until items became white |
| 15:02.49 | linuxxr | aux* |
| 15:03.22 | Etu | dos1: I got the homescreen with the clock and stuff |
| 15:03.37 | dos1 | Etu: i know. are times white or light-grey? |
| 15:04.07 | Etu | the clock is white |
| 15:04.12 | Etu | the numbers? |
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| 15:05.04 | dos1 | Etu: click on something |
| 15:11.39 | Etu | I could't not before, But now I can |
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| 18:05.07 | Yanroy | hi all |
| 18:05.23 | Yanroy | I'm having a problem with paroli |
| 18:05.41 | Yanroy | when I first boot the phone, the main paroli screen is grey text on black (as opposed to the normal white) |
| 18:05.44 | Yanroy | and I can't use it |
| 18:05.46 | Yanroy | it's like it's disabled |
| 18:06.34 | Yanroy | after a while (some suspend/resume cycles, it seems) it mysteriously unlocks |
| 18:06.34 | Yanroy | is there something I can do other than random chance to make it unlock and be usable? |
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| 18:07.20 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: probably you just have to wait for the SIM to become ready? |
| 18:07.46 | Yanroy | oh, that takes a while? |
| 18:07.54 | PaulFertser | As on any other GSM phone. |
| 18:07.55 | Yanroy | I figured that was just a bug in OM2008.10 |
| 18:08.03 | Yanroy | k |
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| 18:09.24 | Yanroy | you don't know anything about the apparently-missing opkg repos for OM2009, do you? |
| 18:11.24 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: I don't i'm a debian user. |
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| 18:33.30 | Yanroy | is there a reason the leading-1 bug in phone numbers has never been fixed? that one seems really simple... |
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| 18:44.47 | Blu3 | what leading 1 bug? |
| 18:46.10 | Yanroy | sometimes phone numbers in caller ID or SMS have a leading 1, sometimes they don't |
| 18:46.17 | Yanroy | so either way, some of the time they don't match your phonebook |
| 18:46.26 | Yanroy | which means you get the raw number showing instead of the person's name |
| 18:47.30 | Blu3 | all US numbers should have a leading 1 in your contacts, caller ID from carriers is like everything else. sometimes carriers don't do what is right |
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| 18:48.23 | Blu3 | but yes, i would like it if oph did a bit of normalization on numbers to attempt to match to your contact |
| 18:48.46 | PaulFertser | Blu3: are you sure? |
| 18:49.06 | PaulFertser | Blu3: i thought that all GSM operators provide numbers in standard international format, that's with leading + |
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| 18:49.59 | Blu3 | i can remember callerid coming in without prefixed 1 |
| 18:49.59 | PaulFertser | Blu3: gsm caller id or landline CID? |
| 18:50.05 | Blu3 | i haven't seen it recently to my recollection |
| 18:50.08 | Blu3 | gsm |
| 18:50.28 | Blu3 | i haven;t had a landline in about 10 years |
| 18:50.33 | PaulFertser | Blu3: the leftmost char should always be +, i think. |
| 18:50.49 | Blu3 | pardon my typos, i have a bandaged finger that annoys |
| 18:51.12 | Blu3 | i'll keep am eye on all callerids that come in |
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| 18:55.00 | Yanroy | Blu3: actually, it's usually incorrect to have the leading 1 in your contacts in your phonebook. on many phones it will refuse to dial if you do |
| 18:55.08 | Yanroy | not having it _always_ works |
| 18:55.19 | Blu3 | i disagree |
| 18:55.53 | Yanroy | well, you're free to disagree on the correctness of it, but the ratio of it working to not working is fact :) |
| 18:56.02 | Blu3 | and a leading 1 has always dialed for me on every phone :) |
| 18:56.08 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: why are you talking about leading 1 at all? It should be leading +! |
| 18:56.19 | Yanroy | that would probably cause even more issues :P |
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| 18:56.38 | Yanroy | but seeing as I'm from the US, I don't do much travelling in other countries like people in europe do... |
| 18:56.40 | Blu3 | well, according to FSO folks, your contact #s -should- be fully formed |
| 18:56.44 | Yanroy | so I have little need for + numbers |
| 18:57.17 | Yanroy | Blu3: so you're telling me that if I add leading 1s, my problems will go away? |
| 18:57.26 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: that's standard! |
| 18:57.30 | Q-Master | Hi all |
| 18:57.35 | Yanroy | is it smart enough to match the non-leading-1 number from the carrier to the leading-1 number in my contacts? |
| 18:57.49 | Yanroy | PaulFertser: which is standard? |
| 18:57.58 | Blu3 | i've no idea about your carrier. but if you're using SHR, inbound SMS won't match up your contacts unless it does |
| 18:58.01 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: having number in international format with leading "+". |
| 18:58.35 | Yanroy | PaulFertser: I'd be happy to go through and add both a + and a 1 if you think it will help. does the phone cope with it well? |
| 18:58.48 | Yanroy | I really just want my SMS messages to show me who it's from so I don't have to memorize everyone's number :P |
| 18:59.05 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: i think yes. I'm not sure how SHR sms app does matching though. |
| 18:59.14 | Yanroy | PaulFertser: also, is the correct way to do that just add +1 to the front of the normal 10 digit number? |
| 18:59.40 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: if your country code is 1, then yes, i think so. |
| 19:03.40 | Yanroy | I think the US country code is 011 or something like that... |
| 19:03.46 | Yanroy | I believe we just use 1 internally |
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| 19:05.07 | Yanroy | eh, wikipedia seems to be indicating differently |
| 19:05.15 | Yanroy | maybe the 011 is the part that gets replaced by the +? |
| 19:05.22 | Yanroy | who knows... I'll try adding it to some contacts |
| 19:06.21 | Yanroy | gah... is there really no way to edit a phone number? you have to delete the whole thing to get to the beginning? |
| 19:06.24 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: yes, it looks like 011 should be omitted altogether |
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| 19:10.18 | Yanroy | my brief testing indicates that it is not smart enough to match the + numbers to non-+ numbers |
| 19:10.30 | Yanroy | so I'm just going to add 1's and see what that does for me |
| 19:11.45 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: do you really receive non plused numbers from the network? :-O |
| 19:12.30 | Yanroy | I've never received a plussed number from the network |
| 19:12.46 | Yanroy | and the presence of a leading 1 is probably about 50/50 |
| 19:13.08 | Yanroy | though it seems to be more like 95% present on SMS, but maybe less than 50% on caller ID |
| 19:15.06 | PaulFertser | Extremely weird. |
| 19:16.19 | Yanroy | I take it you're not from the US :) |
| 19:17.09 | PaulFertser | Lucky me. |
| 19:17.14 | Yanroy | heh... maybe |
| 19:17.23 | Yanroy | where are you from? |
| 19:17.28 | PaulFertser | Russia :) |
| 19:17.31 | Yanroy | ah |
| 19:18.28 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: and i wished i could visit the USA but your ridiculous "security" measures make me consider to refrain from it. |
| 19:18.45 | Yanroy | yeah, I know what you mean... it's completely out of control |
| 19:19.26 | PaulFertser | Probably Obama will change something in this regard... |
| 19:19.35 | Yanroy | I doubt it |
| 19:19.52 | Yanroy | he seems to be all about more government control of everything... |
| 19:20.03 | Yanroy | which only leads to less freedom |
| 19:20.10 | file | I was surprised at how... easy... it was to enter the US when I arrived here on Sunday |
| 19:20.14 | Yanroy | "the land of the free" we are no longer... |
| 19:20.29 | file | but I've gone through secondary clearance twice before so they probably have every record on me |
| 19:20.55 | Yanroy | haha |
| 19:20.56 | Yanroy | probably |
| 19:21.34 | Yanroy | it's bad enough trying to get back in after you leave if you're a citizen... I can only imagine how hellish it must be if you're visiting |
| 19:21.46 | PaulFertser | Unfortunately the usa citizens have allowed an idiot to be the head of the country for 8 years already. Probably it's even harder to change anything now (than was back then). |
| 19:21.49 | Yanroy | I haven't left the country since before they closed the border with canada |
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| 19:22.14 | Yanroy | eh, they're all idiots |
| 19:22.18 | Yanroy | we've traded one kind of stupid for another |
| 19:22.30 | file | mumbles as his flight was supposed to board in 3 minutes from now but probably won't |
| 19:22.34 | PaulFertser | Quite possibly. |
| 19:22.39 | Yanroy | I can only hope that in the next election, the people will realize that neither the democrats nor the republicans have the answers... |
| 19:23.09 | PaulFertser | Nah, _that_ is impossible. |
| 19:23.19 | Yanroy | I know |
| 19:23.35 | PaulFertser | We're all doomed |
| 19:23.38 | Yanroy | pretty much |
| 19:23.59 | file | they're trialing a system to keep track of people leaving the US now too... |
| 19:24.19 | Yanroy | I think that obama believes the only way he can ressurect the economy is to have a world war, since he's basically reenacted the New Deal from the great depression and it was WWII that got us out of that... |
| 19:24.30 | Yanroy | so I wouldn't be surprised if he does something stupid like attacking iran or north korea |
| 19:25.09 | PaulFertser | Oh hell |
| 19:25.42 | file | runs away |
| 19:25.54 | Yanroy | hehe |
| 19:26.07 | Yanroy | in case you couldn't tell, my views are somewhat of a minority here... |
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| 19:26.21 | Yanroy | so don't take me as a representative of the US population |
| 19:26.22 | PaulFertser | juri_! |
| 19:26.32 | juri_ | Paul! |
| 19:26.52 | juri_ | I'm back. ;) |
| 19:26.55 | PaulFertser | juri_: hey, can you tell us if GSM operators in USA follow the standard and provide numbers in international format, with leading + ? |
| 19:27.19 | juri_ | I've never seen a + on my screen. |
| 19:27.23 | PaulFertser | juri_: the new gta01 kernel is waiting for you, 2.6.29 git HEAD, mmm tasty |
| 19:27.31 | juri_ | ooo. |
| 19:27.38 | juri_ | thats what i'm herefor. ;) |
| 19:27.46 | PaulFertser | juri_: what HW revision do you have? |
| 19:28.36 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: (unrelated WWII question) is it true that the majority of the usa population believes that "the USA won the war"? |
| 19:28.52 | PaulFertser | juri_: if it's bv4, is it red pcb or green pcb? |
| 19:29.15 | juri_ | hmm. seems i remember it being green. ;) |
| 19:29.23 | Yanroy | PaulFertser: won which war? WWII? |
| 19:29.53 | PaulFertser | juri_: cool, then you're safe from a nasty bug that makes suspend/resume with gsm impossible. |
| 19:29.56 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: yes |
| 19:30.19 | Yanroy | PaulFertser: yes, I would say that's a widely held belief, consider I'd never questioned it until you asked... |
| 19:30.35 | Yanroy | PaulFertser: I'm guessing you believe differently? |
| 19:31.17 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: it's supposed that USSR did an overwhelming part of the "work". |
| 19:31.35 | Yanroy | PaulFertser: that's probably true... especially on the eastern front |
| 19:31.47 | Yanroy | my understanding is that unknown numbers of millions of russian soldiers died |
| 19:32.26 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: probably 3 times more than German soldiers, yes. |
| 19:32.51 | Yanroy | I would guess that both of our respective countries have overstated their role :) the truth is probably somewhere in the middle |
| 19:33.32 | Yanroy | but that said, only the most superficial teaching of WWII would say that the US "won". anything that goes into even moderate depth would talk very much about our allies, including USSR |
| 19:33.57 | Yanroy | but seeing as the average american is only slightly more intelligent than a potted plant, most probably believe we won it single-handedly |
| 19:34.08 | Defiant | lol |
| 19:34.30 | SpeedEvil | s//is/is encouraged to be/ |
| 19:34.31 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: ok, thanks for the clarification. I asked because we have a clishe about "stupid americans who think they won WWII" |
| 19:34.53 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: lol |
| 19:35.08 | PaulFertser | Or is it cliche? Damn french ;) |
| 19:35.19 | Yanroy | I believe it's cliche :) |
| 19:35.35 | Yanroy | with an acute accent on the e, which I can't type... |
| 19:35.38 | Yanroy | if you want to get fancy |
| 19:35.53 | PaulFertser | Just use LaTeX notation :) |
| 19:37.55 | Yanroy | this has been a very interesting conversation :) but I must go now... ttyl |
| 19:38.02 | PaulFertser | Yanroy: luck |
| 19:39.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03rehar * r5127 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/ (STATUS dtc123.lib gta02-core-expanded.lib gta02-core.lib): changed DTC123 pin numbering accordingly to what NXP and ON Semi. is using |
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| 20:22.02 | Darkas | hi |
| 20:22.15 | Darkas | I'm having a very strange problem with om2009 |
| 20:22.56 | Darkas | with gentoo, usb networking works fine but with om2009 usb0 doesn't appear on my notebook |
| 20:23.15 | Darkas | it's not my first boot |
| 20:25.08 | Darkas | anybody an idea? |
| 20:27.01 | max_posedon | usb0 now eth1 or ethN |
| 20:27.04 | max_posedon | see dmesg |
| 20:27.18 | max_posedon | its common with any distro |
| 20:29.01 | Darkas | max_posedon, I don't have that device too... |
| 20:29.09 | Darkas | I got only usb0 on my neo |
| 20:29.16 | max_posedon | usb0 in neo |
| 20:29.21 | max_posedon | but ethN on PC |
| 20:29.30 | Darkas | hm.... strange |
| 20:29.34 | max_posedon | see dmesg, or post it |
| 20:29.39 | max_posedon | nothing strange |
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| 20:30.33 | Darkas | ah, now I got it |
| 20:30.36 | Darkas | thank you |
| 20:31.39 | Yanroy | hey, has anyone got opkg working on OM2009? |
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| 20:34.27 | Yanroy | on my install, it just reports a 404 for the URL where the repo is supposed to be :( |
| 20:34.31 | Yanroy | so I can't install or update anything |
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| 20:45.24 | Yanroy | wow... GPRS actually works!! |
| 20:45.39 | Yanroy | what will it do to my battery life if I leave it on all the time? |
| 20:45.47 | Yanroy | or will it interfere in any other way? |
| 20:49.59 | Yanroy | hmm... now if I just had opkg working so I could install a browser... |
| 20:52.30 | max_posedon | Yanroy, neo will suspends if you have gprs connection on |
| 20:52.38 | max_posedon | but it will wake up on every packet |
| 20:53.06 | Yanroy | ? |
| 20:53.06 | max_posedon | so, if no traffic - neo suspended - long battery life |
| 20:53.14 | Yanroy | is there normal idle traffic? |
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| 20:53.21 | Yanroy | or is it only if I'm using it? |
| 20:53.30 | max_posedon | only if you using it |
| 20:53.35 | Yanroy | sweet |
| 20:53.41 | Yanroy | so there's no reason not to have it on |
| 20:54.02 | max_posedon | I hope your provider doesn't send you magic packets (my - don't) |
| 20:54.09 | Yanroy | who knows :P |
| 20:54.11 | Yanroy | it's AT&T |
| 20:54.27 | Yanroy | I don't suppose you can clue me in on how to fix opkg? |
| 20:54.44 | max_posedon | sorry, I'm shr user |
| 20:54.52 | max_posedon | but what problem you have? |
| 20:55.53 | Yanroy | I type "opkg update" in the terminal |
| 20:56.09 | Yanroy | and it says "downloading packages" or somesuch |
| 20:56.16 | Yanroy | then it says "failed downloading blah, error 404" |
| 20:56.41 | Yanroy | I've been to variations on the URL in my browser and it seems that there just isn't a repo there |
| 20:56.50 | Yanroy | there are repos for other distributions and such |
| 20:56.54 | Yanroy | but not for OM2009 |
| 20:57.03 | Yanroy | unless it's one of "unstable" or "testing" or somesuch |
| 20:57.14 | max_posedon | in first |
| 20:57.22 | max_posedon | flush latest testing image |
| 20:57.40 | max_posedon | I think you won't need second) |
| 20:58.14 | Yanroy | huh? |
| 20:58.45 | Yanroy | you want me to re-flash with something? |
| 20:59.10 | max_posedon | yes |
| 20:59.25 | max_posedon | I want ask you flash latest OM2009 |
| 20:59.57 | Yanroy | I believe I have the latest |
| 21:00.03 | Yanroy | it's dated may 21 |
| 21:00.26 | Yanroy | if there's a newer one, I don't know where to find it |
| 21:05.42 | Yanroy | the URL that opkg is trying to access is a valid folder, and it's right next to seemingly-valid repos, it's just empty |
| 21:05.50 | Yanroy | I'm thinking some nightly build script or something is busted |
| 21:06.36 | max_posedon | you can try http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/daily/NeoFreerunner/ |
| 21:07.19 | Yanroy | that'a a new image, right? |
| 21:07.30 | Yanroy | not a repo |
| 21:07.39 | max_posedon | yep |
| 21:07.58 | max_posedon | I'm not sure that its stable |
| 21:08.05 | Yanroy | I don't think it is |
| 21:08.16 | max_posedon | but I always prefer helps people with upstream stuff |
| 21:08.18 | Yanroy | someone in #paroli told me they can't hear ringing calls nor answer calls with that image |
| 21:08.31 | max_posedon | oh.. so didn't flash it) |
| 21:08.40 | Yanroy | I really just want a web browser :P |
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| 21:08.46 | max_posedon | but he might be jokes |
| 21:08.47 | Yanroy | would that be fairly standard across distributions? |
| 21:08.53 | max_posedon | *joked |
| 21:08.56 | Yanroy | like, could I grab a package from another distro? |
| 21:08.58 | max_posedon | midori |
| 21:09.00 | max_posedon | yes |
| 21:09.16 | Yanroy | is midori the name of the browser? |
| 21:09.36 | max_posedon | yes |
| 21:10.08 | Yanroy | which repo do you recommend I pull from? |
| 21:10.32 | max_posedon | I use shr-unstable |
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| 21:11.39 | Yanroy | k... maybe I'll give that a try |
| 21:12.02 | Yanroy | do you know if the bug where the phone stops being able to receive SMS some time after booting has been fixed? |
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| 21:22.34 | DocScrutinizer2 | ~log |
| 21:22.34 | apt | log is, like, http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowhead/ |
| 21:22.56 | DocScrutinizer2 | nslu2-log: ? |
| 21:23.17 | DocScrutinizer2 | nslu2-log: info |
| 21:24.00 | DocScrutinizer2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.55 | bluelightning | ~logs |
| 21:29.55 | apt | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
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| 23:03.54 | Yanroy | hi guys... the SMS bug seems to still exist... is there a workaround? |
| 23:04.07 | Yanroy | I'm referring to the one where the phone seems to stop receiving SMS after a while |
| 23:04.11 | Yanroy | the only solution I know of is a reboot |
| 23:04.38 | Yanroy | which on 2008.10 seemed to make me get my missed messages after it rebooted, but on 2009, it seems like the messages are lost... |
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