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| 02:20.19 | MadTBone | anyone know if there's an SHR-specific channel? |
| 02:20.56 | Toaster` | MadTBone: here and #openmoko-cdevel have SHR devs floating around |
| 02:21.59 | MadTBone | Toaster`: thanks |
| 02:22.11 | Toaster` | MadTBone: what's your question? |
| 02:22.41 | Toaster` | I'm one of the little people in SHR... |
| 02:28.16 | MadTBone | Toaster`: just general questions....see #openmoko-cdevel |
| 02:28.41 | MadTBone | Toaster`: though I guess here would be more apropriate. |
| 02:29.10 | MadTBone | so.... it's been a while since I've tinkered with my gta02... last SHR I tried was around December. What are the major issues that have improved since then? |
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| 02:30.08 | Toaster` | MadTBone: sorry, I lost your message amongst the others |
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| 09:28.48 | farhaven | hi there |
| 09:29.01 | farhaven | i'm having a bit of a problem getting gps to work on my gta02v6 |
| 09:29.27 | farhaven | fso-gpsd is started, but even after a complete night of sitting on my table under a window pointing to the sky, it has no fix |
| 09:29.41 | farhaven | gps is of course activated |
| 09:29.46 | farhaven | did i miss something? |
| 09:30.05 | SpeedEvil | not all windows are windows at GPS frequencies |
| 09:30.16 | PaulFertser | farhaven: you should be outside to be sure. |
| 09:30.33 | PaulFertser | farhaven: or at least really near (0cm) to the window. |
| 09:30.45 | SpeedEvil | Some double glazed windows - most even - have a coating to reflect IR - this also strongly reflects from the window GPS freqs |
| 09:30.56 | farhaven | SpeedEvil: ah, didn't know that |
| 09:30.58 | PaulFertser | farhaven: also some app should actually connect to gpsd. |
| 09:31.07 | farhaven | yeah, i had tangoGPS running all night |
| 09:31.08 | PaulFertser | farhaven: and not agps-sui or smth like that. |
| 09:31.48 | SpeedEvil | there was also a bug involving loading vastly wrong data into the GPS, and confusing it |
| 09:32.01 | SpeedEvil | I think that may be fixed though. |
| 09:32.07 | farhaven | heh,i hope so :) |
| 09:32.19 | farhaven | how long does the very first fix usually take? |
| 09:32.36 | SpeedEvil | 13 min - worst case |
| 09:32.44 | SpeedEvil | if you've got a clear view of the sky |
| 09:33.01 | farhaven | okay, another bad point in my setup :) |
| 09:33.51 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: was fixed, yes |
| 09:34.10 | farhaven | now i only need to get neovento onto an sd and i'm happy :D |
| 09:34.15 | farhaven | thanks a lot guys |
| 09:34.20 | farhaven | cya |
| 09:34.21 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: now both almanac and ephemeri upload works. |
| 09:34.30 | PaulFertser | farhaven: neovento? |
| 09:34.50 | farhaven | yeah, this debian based distro using lxde |
| 09:35.00 | PaulFertser | Those guys are strange, i wouldn't trust them. |
| 09:35.06 | farhaven | hehe |
| 09:35.10 | PaulFertser | No, really. |
| 09:35.11 | farhaven | can you suggest a better distro? |
| 09:35.19 | PaulFertser | I had bad experience talking to them on community ML. |
| 09:35.27 | PaulFertser | farhaven: i use Debian. |
| 09:35.43 | farhaven | heh, i tried that yesterday, but i couldn't get gsm to work |
| 09:35.56 | farhaven | so i went back to neovento |
| 09:36.14 | farhaven | i'm still on the search for a good distro though, so maybe i'll revisit debian |
| 09:36.20 | PaulFertser | farhaven: you weren't persistent enough. |
| 09:36.26 | farhaven | lol :D |
| 09:36.42 | farhaven | is there some additional thing one has to care for to get gsm to work with debian? |
| 09:36.59 | PaulFertser | farhaven: care to read logs |
| 09:37.27 | farhaven | hehe |
| 09:40.37 | farhaven | i'm actually running the debian install again right now |
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| 09:45.59 | farhaven | do you have any tips for using debian on the moko? |
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| 09:47.09 | PaulFertser | farhaven: no, i don't do it good. Some other folks would give you a better advice. |
| 09:47.21 | farhaven | okay, thanks anyway |
| 09:47.22 | PaulFertser | farhaven: especially in debian openmoko channel. |
| 09:47.27 | farhaven | hehe |
| 09:47.31 | farhaven | is it here on freenode? |
| 09:47.55 | PaulFertser | Yes, i don't remember the exact channel name |
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| 10:23.14 | jb_ | Hi, All I have a problem with my freshly installed debian on freerunner when I ssh to it it askes for a defalt passwd thats not "root" nor "password" nor blanc and I have not set one, does any one has sugestions for any more default passwds for a newly installed "debian on neo freerunner" ? |
| 10:24.01 | farhaven | try changeme |
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| 10:24.28 | jb_ | thanks farhaven it worked :-) |
| 10:24.41 | farhaven | :) |
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| 11:57.19 | koda | hi! |
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| 11:57.31 | koda | has the openmoko support for opengles? |
| 11:58.50 | PaulFertser | koda: no |
| 11:59.19 | koda | so, no 3D now |
| 11:59.31 | koda | :( |
| 12:00.38 | koda | thanks |
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| 12:07.43 | max_posedon | openmoko support regular opengl |
| 12:07.51 | max_posedon | (mesa) but only software now) |
| 12:08.37 | DieMumiee | for now |
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| 12:13.38 | PaulFertser | max_posedon: who doesn't support software opengl/mesa? |
| 12:14.08 | max_posedon | PaulFertser, I dont' know who doesn't |
| 12:14.32 | PaulFertser | max_posedon: it's obvious that whereever X works, mesa can work too, i think :) |
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| 12:32.25 | Elleo | there are better software renderers than mesa, if you actually want to try doing some 3d stuff on the freerunner |
| 12:33.06 | Elleo | e.g. fusion2x gives ~10-15fps at 320x240 |
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| 13:05.05 | max_posedon | Elleo, mesa *is* software rendering on neo |
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| 13:05.21 | max_posedon | what software opengl you mean? |
| 13:05.28 | Elleo | yes, but it's not *fast* software rendering |
| 13:05.51 | Elleo | there are plenty of better software renderers, especially when it comes to embedded platforms without FPUs mesa is pretty much useless |
| 13:06.03 | SpeedEvil | that's not the main problem I suspect |
| 13:06.38 | SpeedEvil | you do know the graphics card is basically a 1990 or so graphics chip on a bus about 16 bit ISA speed? |
| 13:06.55 | Elleo | for more usable renderers look at fusion2x or klimt (not developed anymore though) |
| 13:07.33 | Elleo | I know from experience that fusion2x gives reasonable results on the freerunner |
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| 13:07.42 | Elleo | nothing astounding, but okay |
| 13:08.21 | Elleo | slightly faster if you use the renderer directly without the opengl|es api compatibility |
| 13:08.32 | ruskie | is wondering if he should wait for the N900 or the A7... |
| 13:10.09 | Elleo | the fusion2x renderer was originally developed for the gp2x which like the freerunner lacks any real 3d acceleration |
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| 13:11.14 | SpeedEvil | IIRC the gp2x has a much faster graphics bus thouh |
| 13:11.27 | Elleo | it's still usable on the freerunner |
| 13:12.04 | Elleo | if you want to see it in action I can send you a demo binary when I get home this evening |
| 13:12.21 | SpeedEvil | I have no FR - so unless you're also going to send me one... (GTA01) |
| 13:12.27 | Elleo | ah |
| 13:12.45 | Weiss | 1990 is a bit harsh |
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| 13:16.10 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 13:16.14 | SpeedEvil | I meant 1990s |
| 13:16.16 | SpeedEvil | typo |
| 13:17.31 | PaulFertser | Elleo: does your demo render to FB? |
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| 13:20.11 | Elleo | PaulFertser: nope, it renders to an SDL surface |
| 13:20.26 | PaulFertser | Elleo: so why wouldn't it work on gta01? |
| 13:20.40 | Elleo | might well do |
| 13:20.41 | PaulFertser | (it'll be just 2 times slower than on FR) |
| 13:21.03 | Elleo | SpeedEvil is still welcome to play with it if he wants |
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| 13:22.18 | SpeedEvil | 2*slower rendering - 10* faster transferring to screen |
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| 13:28.43 | Weiss | Elleo: there's a 3D driver project (actually it's turned into a more general graphics rationalisation project, but 3D is still a part) |
| 13:30.07 | Elleo | yeah, I know, but last I checked there wasn't much in the way of actual 3D support yet |
| 13:30.35 | Elleo | and iirc even when there is it'll still be limited to 320x240 by the glamo's accelerated surface limitations |
| 13:30.54 | Weiss | no, it'll take a while :) |
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| 13:31.24 | Elleo | it'll still be nice to play with when it's finished though |
| 13:31.48 | Weiss | the maximum destination surface size for 3D is 512x512, which means we can do 512x480 which covers most of the usual application area with the illume bars |
| 13:32.03 | Elleo | ah right, that's not so bad |
| 13:32.17 | Weiss | i really think we need to make the chip work HARD for us |
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| 16:25.30 | Sargun | who is the debian guy(s) here? |
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| 16:31.16 | slaxxer | #openmoko-debian |
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| 17:03.54 | slaxxer | slackware64 coming up |
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| 17:48.06 | [Rui] | hopefully I fixed that script that imports vcfs into paroli contacts |
| 17:48.57 | [Rui] | or not... the contacts list seems to be rather empty |
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| 18:38.24 | johnsu01 | So, after working for a couple months, shr testing is now getting into a bad state for me after each call |
| 18:38.51 | johnsu01 | the call ends, I hit release, and it's disconnected, but dialer doesn't close |
| 18:38.58 | johnsu01 | and at that point, incoming calls don't get through |
| 18:41.26 | johnsu01 | I have to kill -9 and restart frameworkd, and then things will work again, until the next call |
| 18:41.48 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: it looks a bit like the problem i had |
| 18:42.05 | johnsu01 | the weird thing is that the only thing I changed was installing and uninstalling navit |
| 18:42.05 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: dos1 discovered that removing occupyresource(cpu) from rules workarounds the problem. |
| 18:42.32 | johnsu01 | otherwise nothing has been upgraded or changed and things were working just fine |
| 18:42.47 | johnsu01 | PaulFertser: hm, okay |
| 18:44.33 | johnsu01 | (this also still speaks to the other bug in the illume widget where it shouldn't be showing full signal strength when the dbus isn't actually responding) |
| 18:46.43 | johnsu01 | PaulFertser: removing OccupyResource(CPU) from a particular rule or from everywhere? |
| 18:48.49 | PaulFertser | johnsu01: from everywhere. |
| 18:50.25 | johnsu01 | tries it |
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| 18:50.39 | dos1 | johnsu01: well, there is one problematic rule |
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| 19:14.52 | bruceber | playing around with OM2009/Paroli... anyone know about installing apps via opkg... repository seems empty at http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/ |
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| 20:36.34 | azaghal | Wow... Hackable:1 works much better on my Neo now. I wonder if it has something to do with buying an 8GB Kingston MicroSD :) |
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| 20:45.00 | toxx_ | hi! I now try to boot shr with qi on gta01 (uboot didn't do it), but it only boots from int. flash. i have a single partition with a file boot/uImage-GTA01.bin. the ideas from the wiki to get more debug output also do not work. any ideas? |
| 20:46.16 | PaulFertser | toxx_: single partition? |
| 20:46.24 | PaulFertser | toxx_: what card do you use? What filesystem? |
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| 20:47.05 | PaulFertser | toxx_: as you have a debug board anyway, it'd be easy to tell what's happening by looking at serial console output. |
| 20:47.15 | PaulFertser | toxx_: be careful with the flex cable, it's fragile! |
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| 20:53.00 | |if3_ | derka derka |
| 20:53.57 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: ext3, 8gb sdhc. works flawlessly with the om2007.11 in int. flash |
| 20:55.04 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: and single partition. thanks for the hint with the cable! |
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| 20:55.41 | PaulFertser | toxx_: are you going to show me serial console output? |
| 20:57.36 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: well i have to connect my debug board first... |
| 20:57.59 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: i see, no chance in getting it to run without the debug board. that's a task for tomorrow. thanks anyway! |
| 20:58.12 | PaulFertser | toxx_: no, there's |
| 20:58.29 | toxx_ | there is? |
| 20:58.44 | PaulFertser | toxx_: you can try my version that has more delays and less frequency and worked with (probably) damaged sd-slot. |
| 20:59.22 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: qi or kernel? |
| 20:59.34 | PaulFertser | toxx_: you have qi problems, not kernel, right? |
| 20:59.38 | toxx_ | yep |
| 20:59.53 | toxx_ | well, works flawless for internal flash. |
| 20:59.56 | toxx_ | but that's it. |
| 21:00.21 | PaulFertser | toxx_: well, try my version |
| 21:00.36 | PaulFertser | toxx_: and in fact connecting a debug board doesn't take long. |
| 21:00.57 | toxx_ | your qi? well, there isn't any way to get it updated to your version without a debug board, is there? |
| 21:01.03 | toxx_ | (with qi already on it now) |
| 21:01.28 | PaulFertser | toxx_: there is, for sure |
| 21:01.34 | toxx_ | can i write to mtd from kernel in 2007.11? |
| 21:01.42 | PaulFertser | toxx_: https://paulfertser.is-a-geek.org/files/gta01/qi-s3c2410-master_c5ebdcd95c894130.udfu |
| 21:01.48 | PaulFertser | toxx_: wget it to your device. |
| 21:01.59 | PaulFertser | toxx_: then flasherase_all /dev/mtd0 |
| 21:02.27 | PaulFertser | toxx_: then nandwrite -p /dev/mtd0 qi-s3c2410-master_c5ebdcd95c894130.udfu |
| 21:02.30 | PaulFertser | IIRC |
| 21:02.30 | PaulFertser | ;) |
| 21:02.47 | PaulFertser | toxx_: i did it enough times during F9C |
| 21:02.55 | toxx_ | f9c? |
| 21:03.25 | PaulFertser | toxx_: fsoshrudevcon -- meeting of fso shr and other developers and users. |
| 21:03.49 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: ahh, i see! |
| 21:03.50 | PaulFertser | toxx_: because i don't have gta01 i used josch's to debug Qi SDHC support. |
| 21:04.18 | toxx_ | ehm... sorry for bothering, but where's the ipkg for the nand tools? |
| 21:05.25 | PaulFertser | toxx_: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/armv4t/mtd-utils_1.2.0+git-r3_armv4t.ipk should work |
| 21:05.52 | toxx_ | thanks alot for all your help! |
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| 21:06.23 | toxx_ | uhoh. wrong libc. |
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| 21:08.07 | PaulFertser | toxx_: what about http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/mtd-utils_1.1.0-r3_armv4t.opk |
| 21:09.39 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: what is .opk? ipkg install didn't work on it, I tried. |
| 21:09.48 | PaulFertser | toxx_: just ar x it. |
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| 21:10.43 | toxx_ | ahh, thanks. but in the meantime i got brutal. just updated libc6. |
| 21:10.47 | toxx_ | seems to work so far. |
| 21:10.49 | toxx_ | ... |
| 21:11.04 | PaulFertser | toxx_: too dangerous |
| 21:11.14 | PaulFertser | toxx_: you could have used http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ |
| 21:12.08 | PaulFertser | toxx_: like http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/mtd-utils_1.0.0+git-r7_armv4t.ipk |
| 21:12.57 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: you're probably very right, but I see myself already attaching the damn dbg board. so I figured that libc6 upgrade is comparable to testing another qi... |
| 21:13.16 | toxx_ | I'll see what happens. at least I seem to have mtd utils working |
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| 21:13.49 | toxx_ | flash erase and nandwrite worked. |
| 21:14.01 | toxx_ | I'll reboot. i still hope... :) |
| 21:14.37 | PaulFertser | toxx_: whenever you want to write anything to flash don't forget to erase it first (general advice). |
| 21:14.53 | toxx_ | ok, bootloader still there.. |
| 21:15.16 | toxx_ | ahh, booting something. but seems to be internal again. except when shr has the same splash screen. does it? |
| 21:15.22 | PaulFertser | No |
| 21:15.32 | toxx_ | damn |
| 21:15.59 | toxx_ | in the wiki it says that qi will not even turn on the backlight. mine does. why |
| 21:16.01 | toxx_ | ? |
| 21:16.09 | |if3_ | i love my phone |
| 21:16.15 | |if3_ | too bad it's going to cost another fucking bill lol |
| 21:16.18 | |if3_ | but so worth it |
| 21:16.18 | PaulFertser | toxx_: no, qi doesn't |
| 21:16.20 | |if3_ | i love open source |
| 21:16.21 | |if3_ | weeeee |
| 21:16.22 | PaulFertser | toxx_: it's your kernel |
| 21:16.27 | toxx_ | that five lines are already the kernel? |
| 21:16.29 | toxx_ | ok... |
| 21:17.03 | |if3_ | it's in my kernel too! |
| 21:17.05 | |if3_ | hur hur hur |
| 21:17.08 | |if3_ | running though my veins |
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| 21:17.33 | PaulFertser | |if3_: share me some weed |
| 21:17.45 | PaulFertser | Please |
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| 21:19.28 | PaulFertser | toxx_: show me the serial output and it'll be obvious what's wrong... Either Qi doesn't see you card or it can't read the kernel from there for whatever reason. |
| 21:20.00 | PaulFertser | toxx_: you don't need any tricky drivers or library to use serial console via debug board btw. Just connect it and it works. |
| 21:20.38 | PaulFertser | I remember there's some hardware trick. You need to power the debug board first iirc. |
| 21:20.41 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: i see. |
| 21:20.50 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: i can confirm that i have your bl |
| 21:21.21 | toxx_ | strings on mtd0 shows the c5ebdcd rev |
| 21:21.23 | PaulFertser | toxx_: ok |
| 21:21.57 | toxx_ | thank you alot for your help! |
| 21:22.09 | PaulFertser | toxx_: it has really lower SD frequency and more delays. I added more than enough to get it to work with other GTA01 with presumably damaged card holder or with a "picky" card. |
| 21:22.21 | toxx_ | I think I'll postpone the debug board part, I have a real life and everything :) maybe tomorrow... |
| 21:22.37 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: what is a 'damaged card holder'? bad contacts? |
| 21:22.49 | PaulFertser | Qi still doesn't use a magic method to use a lower frequency for the first exchanges and then to ramp it up to the card maximum... |
| 21:23.18 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: ahh, i know these methods, all the 8bit avr mmc codes have it :-) |
| 21:23.49 | PaulFertser | toxx_: this gta01 survived an unsuccesfull attempt of gps-capacitor-fix (not done by me ;) ) and after that the card holder didn't work at all and the guy had to use desoldering wick and stuff and alcohol etc. |
| 21:24.10 | PaulFertser | toxx_: as does current driver in OM kernel |
| 21:24.19 | toxx_ | ok. i wouldn't expect that you could fix bad contacts with long delays, but it makes some sense.. :-) |
| 21:24.48 | PaulFertser | toxx_: longer delay was needed for a card to work at all. And for it to work properly i needed to lower the frequency. |
| 21:25.03 | toxx_ | well about the sdhc i can only say that i managed to boot with uboot from it. and the om2007 kernel works with it. |
| 21:25.12 | PaulFertser | toxx_: there wasn't enough experimental data and i consider the values i used to be too conservative so i hadn't sent them to the ML yet. |
| 21:25.14 | toxx_ | funny. |
| 21:25.33 | toxx_ | neat would be some kind of automatic speed finding :-) |
| 21:26.29 | PaulFertser | toxx_: feel free to ping me when you have the output (or probably you'll see the problem yourself). |
| 21:27.09 | toxx_ | PaulFertser: I'll do that, thanks! |
| 21:27.46 | toxx_ | so... good night! |
| 21:27.52 | PaulFertser | toxx_: night |
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| 22:36.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5120 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (11 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:36.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Reviewed "coax" and "dfbm-cs320". Some changes to dfbm-cs320: |
| 22:36.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - changes pin names to those used in the data sheet |
| 22:36.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - corrected pin type of SPI and XTAL |
| 22:36.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Checked in some more addition to expanded view. Forgot that |
| 22:36.35 | CIA-53 | openmoko: before, oops. |
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| 22:41.56 | |if3_ | question, should I flash my GSM chip? |
| 22:42.10 | |if3_ | it's moko8, but Im using the 2008 free runner |
| 22:42.12 | lindi- | |if3_: if you want to receive calls yes |
| 22:42.23 | |if3_ | :| |
| 22:42.25 | |if3_ | lol |
| 22:42.31 | |if3_ | I assume it has to be done via hardware? |
| 22:42.55 | |if3_ | i could recieve calls on it fine, but I assume that it's very insensitive? lol |
| 22:42.58 | PaulFertser | |if3_: you should flash your GSM chip |
| 22:43.04 | lindi- | |if3_: hardware? |
| 22:43.17 | |if3_ | reads wiki |
| 22:43.21 | |if3_ | it'll answer everything here |
| 22:44.00 | |if3_ | lol i love DD |
| 22:45.27 | |if3_ | erm |
| 22:45.30 | |if3_ | uSD? |
| 22:47.01 | PaulFertser | i3n: micro SD |
| 22:47.01 | |if3_ | OH |
| 22:47.03 | |if3_ | they didn't use the actual symbol for it |
| 22:47.06 | |if3_ | i feel like an idiot. loilk |
| 22:47.09 | |if3_ | lol* |
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| 22:52.37 | |if3_ | flashes gsm |
| 22:52.47 | |if3_ | I hate xorg |
| 22:52.52 | |if3_ | ima kill it and brb |
| 22:53.19 | Blu3 | why? |
| 22:53.46 | |if3_ | it crashes on me about once a week, no idea why |
| 22:53.51 | |if3_ | and nor does the Xorg team |
| 22:53.56 | |if3_ | buddy has the same problem as well |
| 22:54.20 | |if3_ | I figured it was because of debian once apon a time, but it happens with this install too. and my buddy has a new box from like 07. lol |
| 23:03.10 | |if3_ | when flashing the image, I assume to the device, not to a partition? |
| 23:03.15 | Blu3 | hmm. i just rebooted my dual display Xorg desktop after being up for 4 months |
| 23:03.19 | |if3_ | device being the sdhc card |
| 23:03.29 | |if3_ | Blu3, lukc you lol |
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| 23:03.32 | |if3_ | lucky* |
| 23:03.34 | Blu3 | i updated the kernel and kde |
| 23:03.52 | |if3_ | I might be the first one to work on his OM freerunner while under the influence of medical opiates hah |
| 23:03.53 | Blu3 | not really, my workstation at the office was up for 9 months |
| 23:03.59 | Blu3 | heh |
| 23:04.19 | |if3_ | got my wisdoms taken out today |
| 23:04.26 | Blu3 | flashing gsm? yes, it'll be the hardware |
| 23:05.02 | |if3_ | Blu3, erm, no, like, from my computer to the sdhc |
| 23:05.14 | |if3_ | do I flash /dev/sdb or sdb1? |
| 23:05.27 | |if3_ | I assume just the ____ point, I forgot it's name |
| 23:07.07 | Blu3 | actually when you are using the sd card, it's use is that of a disk so you would use the same terminology as writing to a disk |
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| 23:32.37 | troy__ | Anybody else having data corruption issues with mini-sd card? |
| 23:32.46 | |if3 | not me |
| 23:32.59 | |if3 | troy__, do you have an up-to-date sdhc card reader/writer? |
| 23:33.53 | |if3 | I know with my sisters shitbox laptop, it used to do weird shit like that |
| 23:34.08 | |if3 | it got straight fucked over in the long run though |
| 23:34.10 | |if3 | lolol |
| 23:34.36 | troy__ | sdhc? |
| 23:41.02 | |if3 | SD-HIGH-CAPACITY |
| 23:41.07 | |if3 | most cards are sdhc now |
| 23:41.14 | |if3 | and all are that are over 4 gigs I believe |
| 23:47.51 | |if3 | fucking sexy |
| 23:47.55 | |if3 | i love this hardware hackery business |
| 23:47.59 | |if3 | should have gotten into it ages ago |
| 23:50.00 | Weiss | hehe |
| 23:50.10 | Weiss | particularly enjoys the kind of programming which requires a screwdriver |
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| 23:54.06 | Blu3 | troy, yes |
| 23:54.33 | Blu3 | the glamo and my 2G card don't get along well |
| 23:54.52 | Blu3 | my 4G cards don't work period, constant corruption |
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