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| 02:28.58 | slaxxer | ooooo yeeeaaaaaaa |
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| 04:01.30 | slaxxer | july 4th is coming up |
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| 04:21.10 | ndnihil | anyone gotten navit working on latest shr unstable? |
| 04:21.21 | ndnihil | it's complaining about no gui no matter what I tell it to use |
| 04:22.15 | slaxxer | na |
| 04:25.00 | slaxxer | u using Qi with no problems? |
| 04:25.18 | slaxxer | im using uboot still |
| 04:29.08 | slaxxer | navit |
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| 05:41.13 | ndnihil | slaxxer: nope, uboot here |
| 05:41.20 | ndnihil | no reason for me to upgrade to qi |
| 05:41.29 | ndnihil | and I'm familiar with uboot from other embedded projects |
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| 05:45.41 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: faster boot and suspend/resume? |
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| 05:48.08 | ndnihil | how much faster? It'd have to be pretty quick for me to abandon uboot |
| 05:50.18 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: i don't know, never used u-boot ;) |
| 05:50.48 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: what about inability to bork u-boot env? Qi doesn't need any env at all. |
| 05:50.52 | ndnihil | I use it on avr32 boards |
| 05:51.22 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: btw, by flashing qi you won't loose any env you configured, you can reflash u-boot later if you want and it will work as before. |
| 05:51.26 | ndnihil | qi doesnt need an environment? |
| 05:51.33 | ndnihil | how does that work? |
| 05:51.37 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: qi has everything "reasonably" hardcoded. |
| 05:51.52 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: for kernel arguments it can read /boot/append-GTA02 |
| 05:52.03 | ndnihil | hrm |
| 05:52.15 | ndnihil | I'm skeptical, but I've heard nothing but good from qi |
| 05:52.24 | ndnihil | qi users rather |
| 05:54.25 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: some qi users complain and revert to u-boot, i must admit. But those either need something really special or they don't understand Qi "phylosophy". |
| 05:56.48 | lindi- | ndnihil: now I'm Qi user and I complain :) |
| 05:57.07 | ndnihil | shows how much I pay attention |
| 05:57.23 | ndnihil | what are its drawbacks? |
| 05:58.40 | lindi- | ndnihil: I need to have two partitions on SD to be able to boot two different kernels |
| 05:59.21 | lindi- | ndnihil: it hardcodes the nand partition layout |
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| 06:03.05 | PaulFertser | lindi-: for end-user both are reasonable compromises, imho. And developer can change what he needs. That's why i say that you complain because you need "something special". |
| 06:03.30 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: also Qi is maintained and u-boot seem to be not... |
| 06:04.15 | lindi- | surely upstream u-boot is maintained |
| 06:04.48 | ndnihil | hrm, support is generally a good thing |
| 06:04.55 | ndnihil | do you still get the boot menu from holding aux? |
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| 06:05.14 | lindi- | ndnihil: NOR u-boot? |
| 06:05.24 | ndnihil | aux then power = nor right? |
| 06:05.31 | ndnihil | nand is power then aux? |
| 06:05.46 | lindi- | yep |
| 06:05.58 | ndnihil | then yeah NOR |
| 06:06.04 | PaulFertser | lindi-: upstream is. But is there anybody who fixed recent finding about incorrect PCF charging current threshold? |
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| 06:06.31 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: no, nand is power. Aux will give you a menu only if u-boot is installed to NAND. |
| 06:08.13 | PaulFertser | lindi-: is it possible to modify your ramconsole patch so it will use the last megabyte only if some kernel parameter present? That way we can compile it in by default and ensure that only those who understand what they are doing will use it. |
| 06:08.36 | lindi- | PaulFertser: how about just using mtdoops? |
| 06:10.04 | ndnihil | stabs navit |
| 06:10.49 | ndnihil | I set the gui type, but it insists on "no instance has been created, exiting" |
| 06:11.41 | lindi- | PaulFertser: seems the same line with the same comment exists in u-boot also |
| 06:11.52 | lindi- | PaulFertser: /* cutoff current 1/32 * Ichg */ |
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| 06:14.23 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i had sometimes inability to interact with device but it didn't blink AUX led so... I like your ramconsole idea. |
| 06:14.52 | PaulFertser | lindi-: GTA02: set battery full charging current threshold to 2/32*Ichg (is what was suggested recently) |
| 06:16.11 | lindi- | PaulFertser: yep |
| 06:20.11 | lindi- | PaulFertser: i'm bit confused about what that patch does though. doesn't kernel control charging? |
| 06:23.04 | PaulFertser | lindi-: PCF does it semi-automatically and cuts of current when it wants to (and that depends on threshold set). |
| 06:27.54 | lindi- | PaulFertser: yep but can't kernel set those too? |
| 06:28.15 | PaulFertser | lindi-: wrt ramconsole: imho if you make it the way it won't hurt with the default boot environment, i would vote for inclusion by default. |
| 06:29.18 | PaulFertser | lindi-: this bootloader/kernel thing was discussed and i need to reread the discussion again to draw a conclusion. It is definetely possible to set it in kernel. The question is whether it should be done at all, and if yes, on what cases. |
| 06:29.21 | lindi- | PaulFertser: but mtdoops already exists and is included? |
| 06:30.46 | PaulFertser | lindi-: suitable only for panics afaict. Are you happy with it? |
| 06:31.17 | lindi- | PaulFertser: it's a compromise of course |
| 06:31.58 | lindi- | PaulFertser: for many users it probably would be enough |
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| 06:43.14 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i can't find CONFIG_MTD_OOPS in any Kconfig, what am i doing wrong? |
| 06:44.01 | lindi- | PaulFertser: "# CONFIG_MTD_OOPS is not set"? |
| 06:44.23 | PaulFertser | lindi-: yes, everywhere. How is it supposed to be set if desired? |
| 06:45.03 | lindi- | PaulFertser: set it to y? ;) |
| 06:45.29 | lindi- | the Kconfig option documents how to use it if I remember correctly |
| 06:45.44 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i can't find it in any Kconfig. |
| 06:46.15 | lindi- | PaulFertser: ./drivers/mtd/Kconfig:config MTD_OOPS |
| 06:46.38 | PaulFertser | lindi-: ah, i'm stupid |
| 06:47.05 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i was grepping for CONFIG_MTD_OOPS |
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| 07:01.16 | ecraven | hello ;) can anyone tell me about an external charger for the *battery*? |
| 07:01.54 | PaulFertser | ecraven: any nokia bl-5c-compatible should do (if it doesn't pay attention to the temperature sensor). |
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| 07:05.20 | deepsight | good morning! (UGT) |
| 07:05.38 | deepsight | i was wondering how can i get the time from the GSM network? |
| 07:05.58 | deepsight | in SHR with CLI |
| 07:06.28 | lindi- | deepsight: you don't usually |
| 07:06.38 | PaulFertser | deepsight: not every gsm network gives you time. And it doesn't do it on request ever afaik. |
| 07:06.54 | lindi- | deepsight: at least i've never ever seen a log where somebody has read the time from gsm network |
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| 07:08.20 | deepsight | ok so there is no way for the OM to sync to this time? |
| 07:08.32 | PaulFertser | deepsight: NTP or GPS works |
| 07:08.37 | lindi- | deepsight: OM? the distro |
| 07:08.40 | deepsight | SHR |
| 07:08.52 | PaulFertser | deepsight: why not sync to GPS instead? |
| 07:08.53 | lindi- | deepsight: ah so not OM then :) |
| 07:08.55 | deepsight | or om2009 |
| 07:09.00 | deepsight | hehe sorry |
| 07:09.09 | deepsight | i have both |
| 07:09.23 | lindi- | deepsight: i'm using RTC and compensating for the drift |
| 07:09.29 | PaulFertser | deepsight: if you provide us with an accurate info about how to get time from GSM network, it'd be nice to hear. |
| 07:09.49 | PaulFertser | deepsight: i can tell you that we can get some sort of useless timezone information from the network though. |
| 07:09.55 | deepsight | i have no idea, that was my question :) |
| 07:12.16 | deepsight | actually my question came from trying to figure out how a piece of symbian worked, so i came to you for answers ;) |
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| 07:14.58 | PaulFertser | lindi-: PCF_TIME: 07.06.09 11:27:11 RTC_TIME: 7.5.109 11:27:11 ? What does it mean? |
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| 07:17.03 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i guess it's just the months is differently encoded and everything is ok then. |
| 07:17.18 | lindi- | PaulFertser: you just read from pcf rtc |
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| 07:55.04 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 09:45.25 | wd | http://php.suxx.us/home/fr/macopix1.png just an idea |
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| 10:06.05 | messerting | Can anyone assist me in getting nfs to work on shr-testing? :) |
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| 11:20.38 | Pander | hi all |
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| 11:26.19 | Zorkman | hi Pander |
| 11:26.40 | SpeedEvil | hi |
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| 11:32.48 | Pander | anyone know how to create a unicode character in python like print ur'\ufb03' only I would like ot get the last 4 characters from a variable |
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| 11:41.01 | Pander | got it, thanks |
| 11:41.05 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 11:42.23 | Zorkman | np Pander :) |
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| 11:43.39 | Zorkman | for all those interested: try the latest navit (2308), it is now usable with OSM |
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| 12:36.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5105 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/STATUS: |
| 12:36.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: STATUS updates: |
| 12:36.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - Tobias reviewed si1040x, smsn16, sw_push_4, tas4025a |
| 12:36.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - corrected typo in Tobias' name |
| 12:36.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - added Alvaro as author of emh4, ht210, sw_push_4 |
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| 12:37.14 | Guest70427 | ? |
| 12:37.20 | Guest70427 | this works |
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| 12:37.36 | SpeedEvil | yes, it does. |
| 12:37.38 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 12:40.13 | dehqan | Hi 2 all ,what is differences between models A5 and A6 and A7 ? |
| 12:40.45 | SpeedEvil | See the wiki, there is a rrevision list - I think on the GTA02 page |
| 12:40.49 | SpeedEvil | but I don't know |
| 12:40.55 | SpeedEvil | A7 = buzzfixed |
| 12:41.01 | SpeedEvil | don't remember other versions |
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| 12:43.32 | dehqan | what has been fixed in A7 ? |
| 12:43.40 | dehqan | just internal mic ? |
| 12:43.54 | dehqan | that C-work .. |
| 12:43.56 | dehqan | ? |
| 12:43.59 | SpeedEvil | Go to the wiki search 'GTA02 revision' |
| 12:44.09 | dehqan | yes there is |
| 12:44.17 | dehqan | there has been said |
| 12:44.35 | dehqan | anything more that what has been said there |
| 12:44.36 | dehqan | ? |
| 12:45.13 | SpeedEvil | What specifically are you wondering about |
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| 12:47.24 | Ainulindale | Hmmm can't' remember how to download specific maps for tangogps. Would any of you know? |
| 12:47.39 | Ainulindale | (Considering I'm behind a proxy) |
| 12:47.54 | Zorkman | Ainulindale: just zoom to the area, cick on the map, select download map? |
| 12:47.57 | SpeedEvil | It should work with webproxies |
| 12:48.01 | Ainulindale | Zorkman: Can't. Proxy. |
| 12:48.09 | Ainulindale | It won't download it. |
| 12:49.36 | Zorkman | gprs :D |
| 12:49.45 | Ainulindale | I don't have that and I won't. |
| 12:51.03 | Zorkman | Ainulindale: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JTileDownloader |
| 12:51.09 | SpeedEvil | you can instaall tangogps on a PC, download the area, and then just copy |
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| 12:52.32 | Zorkman | Ainulindale: that JTiledownloader has http proxies support |
| 12:55.26 | dehqan | see in germany distributer has said that their FR is not buzz fixed , in fixed versions what has been done ?just internal mic has been fiixed ?by that c work ?or there is other fixs in A7 ? |
| 12:56.08 | SpeedEvil | Try readingthe mailing list archives |
| 12:57.56 | PaulFertser | dehqan: only internal mic is fixed. Only A8 has decent buzzfixing but it not produced. |
| 13:01.14 | messerting | Can anyone assist me in getting nfs to work on shr-testing? :) |
| 13:02.14 | messerting | I've got /lib/modules/2.6.29-rc2/kernel/fs/nfs_common/nfs_acl.ko but no nfs module |
| 13:03.05 | dehqan | tanx paul ,so paul what other problem has been fixed in A8 ? |
| 13:03.12 | messerting | I have untarred "modules-2.6.28-stable\+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02.tar" |
| 13:04.56 | messerting | The question is - what module do I need to have support for the nfs filesystem, and where can I download that module.. |
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| 13:09.23 | dehqan | tanx paul ,so paul what other problem has been fixed in A8 ? |
| 13:09.23 | dehqan | do you know ? |
| 13:10.36 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5106 10/trunk/gta02-core/docs/ (. kicad-wishlist): First draft of the (incomplete) KiCad feature wishlist. |
| 13:13.19 | PaulFertser | dehqan: i can tell you about that later but not anything important, just buzz and probably cosmetic changes. |
| 13:17.01 | dehqan | i mean wich part in A7 still has buzz ? |
| 13:17.35 | dehqan | paul i shoud decide to buy or not to buy ...so there is ned to your help now |
| 13:19.31 | Zorkman | a7 is already buzz fixed asaik |
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| 14:02.12 | DocScrutinizer | dehqan really seems a poor guy, alway vanishing from #chan very quickly |
| 14:03.05 | DocScrutinizer | probably internet cafes in iran are very uncomfortable and expensive place |
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| 14:10.00 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5107 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/INFO: Additional component info - from rehar@saweb.de |
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| 14:16.06 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5108 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:16.06 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Additional components from Rene Harder rehar@saweb.de |
| 14:16.06 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - gps chipset (atr0635) |
| 14:16.06 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - gps coax connector |
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| 15:21.25 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r100de0cc8a26 10/libfsotransport/configure.ac: |
| 15:21.25 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: fsotransport: configure.ac: use 'test -e' instead of AC_CHECK_FILE |
| 15:21.25 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: to play nice with cross compiling |
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| 15:44.59 | dehqan | hi 2 all , is qtopia free ? |
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| 15:47.40 | leinir | dehqan: Yup :) |
| 15:48.58 | dehqan | so what is this ? http://tinyurl.com/mgedut |
| 15:49.06 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r51e30bc14d62 10/README: README++ |
| 15:49.46 | neomilium | dehqan : "Installation of Qt ..." seems to be the service not software |
| 15:49.53 | dehqan | another question ,Is battery life in FR low if we compare with other common phones ? |
| 15:51.19 | leinir | That is a service, yes, they're not selling the software per se :) |
| 15:51.35 | leinir | It's roughly equivalent (even slightly higher) when compared to other similarly powered smartphones :) |
| 15:52.58 | dehqan | tanx leinir ,anda how can someone contact to http://openmobile.nl/ ? |
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| 15:53.25 | neomilium | dehqan : FR battery is a good battery (1200mAH, if I can remember) but FR's linux consume it really fast.. around 1 charge per day |
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| 15:56.57 | DocScrutinizer | wtf, neomilium left #chan |
| 15:57.35 | DocScrutinizer | dehqan: we recently got gsm standby time of 5days |
| 15:57.44 | DocScrutinizer | even 6days |
| 15:58.15 | der-lehmann | really? |
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| 16:05.55 | DocScrutinizer | dehqan: in normal usage expect a standby time of at least two days. and a full powered up active time of 6..7h |
| 16:06.16 | slaxxer | shr i guess? |
| 16:06.27 | DocScrutinizer | of course the later depends on usage pattern |
| 16:06.34 | DocScrutinizer | yup, shr |
| 16:06.50 | slaxxer | is it time to release yet? |
| 16:08.21 | Guest65430 | I have problem with find a recent image of qt extended improved, Can someone point me in the right direction? |
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| 16:13.07 | slaxxer | yea i think my battery life increased a lot |
| 16:15.01 | dehqan | tanx every body for attentions |
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| 17:48.32 | badcloud | general question |
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| 17:48.42 | badcloud | are there some v6 models that don't have the buzz bug? |
| 17:48.58 | badcloud | I haven't experienced it (at least I don't think I have) |
| 17:49.33 | PaulFertser | badcloud: yes, those that are reworked before shipping. |
| 17:50.08 | PaulFertser | badcloud: but i guess you were just lucky to not see it, probably you'll face it when you move/visit somewhere else. |
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| 17:50.22 | PaulFertser | badcloud: it's easy to tell if you have buzzfix or not, just look at the board. |
| 17:51.13 | badcloud | hmmm, don't wanna take it apart. I wouldn't know how to put it back together :P |
| 17:51.29 | PaulFertser | badcloud: it's all written on the wiki |
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| 17:59.34 | SpeedEvil | It's not really - there isn't on the gta0 2 revisions page a list of a6->a7 chanes |
| 18:00.27 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5111 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/STATUS: Update review status |
| 18:00.48 | SpeedEvil | changes |
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| 18:03.32 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: (wiki) i meant how to assembly it back. |
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| 18:05.48 | SpeedEvil | ah |
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| 18:22.14 | badcloud | Paul, could you give me the link? can't find it |
| 18:22.24 | badcloud | for opening the case |
| 18:23.34 | badcloud | found it |
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| 18:35.18 | PaulFertser | badcloud: you'd need torx screwdriver anyway. |
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| 18:53.03 | rhaeder | so. else from Duesseldorf/Germany or neighboring cities? Please add yourself here: http://www.doodle.com/q9cverygf8fv7y68 |
| 18:53.27 | rhaeder | and here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups:_Duesseldorf (at the end) |
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| 18:55.39 | Etu | Hi thar! |
| 18:55.51 | Etu | I got I freerunner fom a frient |
| 18:55.55 | Etu | friend* |
| 18:56.08 | Etu | And I try to Flash it |
| 18:56.26 | Etu | But I get this everytime: Starting download: [dfu_download error -71 |
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| 19:02.54 | PaulFertser | Etu: check your command thouroughly. Try another usb cable. Try to connect without usb hub. Stuff like that. |
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| 19:15.33 | rhaeder | Etu: maybe weak USB port? tried other devices on same jack? |
| 19:16.02 | beer_ | I do not know what that means but du you have dfu-util instaled? |
| 19:16.33 | beer_ | and maybe try use http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool ? |
| 19:16.49 | rhaeder | Etu: Another idea of mine is that you should try an other USB port |
| 19:16.54 | PaulFertser | beer_: doesn't neotool suck? |
| 19:17.07 | beer_ | define "suck"? |
| 19:17.16 | rhaeder | I used dfu-util with no problems at al :) |
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| 19:17.22 | PaulFertser | beer_: works worse than plain dfu-util |
| 19:17.37 | beer_ | then it does not suck |
| 19:17.40 | rhaeder | sry for my weak english if I have typos |
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| 19:18.11 | beer_ | but at the other hand I am not a console user/TUI but a GUI user |
| 19:19.14 | beer_ | I awoite the terminal when I can beocuse I can hardly remeber the commands I need and it takes to long time to look them up at google |
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| 19:20.25 | beer_ | and Neotool is the only gui I know to flash the Freerunner |
| 19:20.36 | beer_ | if there is a bether pleace tell me |
| 19:21.17 | rhaeder | beer_: try http://wiki.openmoko.org |
| 19:21.34 | rhaeder | If you like I can figure out the right page for you (should be USB networking or so) |
| 19:24.01 | beer_ | you mean: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking? |
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| 19:26.51 | beer_ | I have tried using that guide to setupt my freerunner to connect to the internet but I must have done something wrong. I can easly settup so I can connect via ssh to the phone and back. But when I use the rest of the commands, without any error reports, I cannot ping anything |
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| 19:28.21 | PaulFertser | beer_: obviously commands should be understood first, then used... |
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| 19:30.03 | beer_ | PaulFertser: what is one of the reason I prefer a nice GUI. Often a GUI makes more sence than a TUI (at least tome). and therefor easy to use |
| 19:30.53 | messerting | Can anyone assist me in getting nfs to work on shr-testing? I have untarred the modules, but I don't seem to have the "nfs" module - not even sure I need it. But "nfs" is not listed in /proc/filesystems |
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| 19:31.46 | messerting | and when I try to mount a nfs drive, I get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfs'" |
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| 19:32.05 | PaulFertser | beer_: i doubt that. Using "firestarter" (or whatever) can't substitute reading "man iptables", imho. |
| 19:32.14 | beer_ | you was thinking about http://planet.openmoko.org/ ? |
| 19:35.02 | slaxxer | yea i think my battery life increased a lot |
| 19:35.10 | slaxxer | iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 |
| 19:35.11 | slaxxer | sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 |
| 19:35.11 | slaxxer | ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth2 |
| 19:35.11 | slaxxer | ifconfig eth2 up |
| 19:35.28 | slaxxer | that dopes it for me |
| 19:35.37 | beer_ | those few times I have tried to read a man for a command I often end with getting more annoyed that I was before I tried man command |
| 19:36.08 | slaxxer | things work better when someone helps a little |
| 19:36.42 | slaxxer | not everyone is a linux god |
| 19:37.32 | beer_ | and I am not sitting behind a firewall but instead af nat (whith port 22 and 80 open, ofc with username and password for ssh) and I feel enough secure. At least with those kind if data I have |
| 19:38.13 | slaxxer | im sitting behind a firewall |
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| 19:38.28 | slaxxer | whatever good that is |
| 19:39.15 | PaulFertser | I've started to understand bash programming solely by looking at the man page. mplayer has a decent big manpage too. I can't see how manpage can annoy anyone. |
| 19:43.57 | beer_ | first is the problem that finding the command you cannot remeber the name of, the find the man pages of that command, then find the right options that does what you whant. To me it is harder than write sudo neotool. And then point and clikc and waite for my phone to be flashed |
| 19:44.37 | SpeedEvil | It was earlier back in the day. |
| 19:44.44 | SpeedEvil | When man * was plausible to read |
| 19:44.53 | SpeedEvil | now there are lots more commands. |
| 19:45.45 | wurp2|gone | beer_: for the first & second problem, man -k or apropos |
| 19:46.42 | Etu | PaulFertser, rhaeder: Lost my internet connection, Eh, ok, I will try. |
| 19:47.05 | rhaeder | rhaeder: Etu: maybe weak USB port? tried other devices on same jack? |
| 19:47.10 | rhaeder | Etu: Another idea of mine is that you should try an other USB port |
| 19:47.17 | rhaeder | that is what I typed :) |
| 19:48.17 | Etu | rhaeder: I ran it on another computer yesterday, and it worked to update rootfs, then it gave me error -71 on the same port |
| 19:48.32 | beer_ | then I first need to look op what -k does!! :) so I have to man man to do that ? ;) (I am not trying to convince people to switch from TUI but just telling why I say away from it) |
| 19:49.37 | rhaeder | Etu: sry no idea. it worked here like out of the box |
| 19:50.43 | Etu | rhaeder: I will try on another computer later :) |
| 19:50.55 | rhaeder | k |
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| 20:00.51 | wurp2|gone | beer_: "man man", man! |
| 20:05.46 | PaulFertser | % man: why did you get a divorce? |
| 20:05.49 | PaulFertser | man:: Too many arguments. |
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| 20:08.45 | beer_ | wurp2|gone: I have found a bether way: google man (or was it man google ;) |
| 20:09.54 | plhardy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.55 | plhardy | No manual entry for woman |
| 20:10.13 | plhardy | this one is very well known... |
| 20:10.24 | SpeedEvil | Linux trojan kit: Advance clock to milestones see what breaks, now, see what strings the programs emit as they break, now, put up a page and get it well indexed as a 'fix'. 'just download this'. |
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| 20:22.37 | beer_ | night nigth, sleep tight |
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| 20:24.13 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: download is too suspicious. it needs to be a perl one-liner |
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| 20:25.19 | wurp2|lazy | Besides which, a perl one liner is harder to see as an exploit than the octal dump of the download |
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| 21:40.02 | mihairu | mrtvo :) |
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| 21:43.39 | |Ron| | I love the -X option of ssh, I can now control about any graphical app from my laptop on my FR... |
| 21:44.09 | |Ron| | i can even play movies from any format... |
| 21:44.49 | |Ron| | only the framerate is low (4 fps) and the sound comes from my laptop :P |
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| 23:33.09 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5112 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/ (atr0635.lib gta02-core-expanded.lib gta02-core.lib): |
| 23:33.09 | CIA-53 | openmoko: fixes to the atr0635 from Rene Harder (rehar@saweb.de) |
| 23:33.09 | CIA-53 | openmoko: VCC2 change to E4, |
| 23:33.09 | CIA-53 | openmoko: NXTO -> nXTO. |
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