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| 01:38.33 | rooly | thinks FOF could be ported to the FR |
| 01:38.44 | rooly | IF it were recompiled to cython |
| 01:38.50 | rooly | and used only 2d images |
| 01:39.07 | fredrin | FOF? |
| 01:39.11 | rooly | Frets on Fire |
| 01:39.13 | rooly | sorry |
| 01:39.22 | rooly | my new favorite game |
| 01:39.27 | fredrin | ah, a game |
| 01:39.44 | rooly | you say that with such disdain |
| 01:40.01 | fredrin | no, hehe, just few characters |
| 01:40.12 | fredrin | i really did not know what it was |
| 01:40.21 | rooly | oh, well, ever played guitar hero? |
| 01:40.31 | fredrin | some, but i suck at it. I'm a Wii guy |
| 01:40.53 | rooly | frets on fire is basically that genre but for the PC |
| 01:40.59 | rooly | it runs on linux and windows |
| 01:41.04 | fredrin | k |
| 01:41.05 | fredrin | cool |
| 01:41.15 | rooly | and it uses a keyboard for input |
| 01:41.24 | rooly | f1-f5 are your frets |
| 01:41.28 | rooly | and enter is your strum key |
| 01:42.49 | fredrin | installing it now, have to test it on my comp :) |
| 01:43.00 | fredrin | got nothing else todo |
| 01:43.05 | rooly | you need either a wireless keyboard, or one with a long cable on it |
| 01:43.12 | rooly | don't try to play it with a laptop keyboard |
| 01:43.28 | fredrin | why? |
| 01:43.32 | fredrin | i only got a laptop |
| 01:43.40 | rooly | cause of the way you play the game |
| 01:43.57 | rooly | i suppose it would be feasible if your laptop had a hole in it |
| 01:44.06 | rooly | like between the screen and keyboard |
| 01:44.15 | rooly | but you'd get a neck cramp |
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| 01:52.52 | fredrin | cool game |
| 01:53.08 | fredrin | it work somewhat to use the laptop keyboard though |
| 01:53.08 | rooly | oh yes |
| 01:53.18 | rooly | much better if you can hold it like you should |
| 01:53.23 | rooly | alot of fun |
| 01:53.35 | fredrin | but i'm not used to play the guitar either, more used to type touch.... |
| 01:53.37 | fredrin | :) |
| 01:53.44 | rooly | heheh |
| 01:53.58 | rooly | i'm gonna put this on my ps3 when i get linux finally installed on it after i finally get it working agian... |
| 01:54.12 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.runningwithscissors.com/ aka Postal |
| 01:54.28 | rooly | i've heard of postal |
| 01:54.40 | DocScrutinizer | too |
| 01:55.05 | DocScrutinizer | heard cats are good gun mufflers ;-D |
| 01:55.21 | rooly | lmao |
| 01:56.28 | DocScrutinizer | I prefer tesla transformers for leissure time tho |
| 01:56.58 | DocScrutinizer | well, anyway |
| 01:57.33 | DocScrutinizer | let me reflash my uSD with SHR + dbus bug fix (yeeeehAAA) |
| 01:58.24 | rooly | guffaws |
| 01:58.32 | DocScrutinizer | I managed to destroy my rootfs by intentionally dropping my FR from 160cm to the ground. No idea why the kernel PANICs now :-S |
| 01:58.39 | rooly | lmao |
| 01:58.41 | rooly | nice |
| 01:58.59 | DocScrutinizer | ~wtf lmao |
| 01:59.08 | DocScrutinizer | aaah |
| 01:59.11 | rooly | yessir |
| 01:59.21 | rooly | roflmfao |
| 01:59.32 | rooly | try that one |
| 01:59.39 | DocScrutinizer | this one I got now ;-) |
| 01:59.49 | rooly | bbiab |
| 01:59.54 | rooly | afaik |
| 02:00.08 | rooly | imho |
| 02:00.11 | DocScrutinizer | errrr ?!?! |
| 02:00.17 | rooly | try 'em |
| 02:00.26 | DocScrutinizer | know them |
| 02:00.34 | rooly | ah, keke |
| 02:00.40 | rooly | anywho |
| 02:00.44 | DocScrutinizer | just thought you're talking bullshit |
| 02:00.55 | rooly | so a 5' fall will destroy my rootfs |
| 02:01.03 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 02:01.19 | DocScrutinizer | seems like it actually does sometimes |
| 02:01.49 | DocScrutinizer | kernel panic on first line after starting kernel - very starnge |
| 02:02.02 | rooly | hmm |
| 02:02.12 | rooly | maybe you have corrupted bits |
| 02:02.23 | rooly | a sector or two are trashed and simply can't be flashed |
| 02:02.37 | rooly | i mean, 5' is pretty high to drop something from |
| 02:02.50 | rooly | 3-4' is your normal carrying level |
| 02:03.09 | DocScrutinizer | well I don't care. got a borked inode that refuses to "rm -f", and I intended to reflash with dbus MAJOR BUG proposed fix anyway |
| 02:03.34 | rooly | wonders how that even works |
| 02:03.40 | DocScrutinizer | what?? |
| 02:03.48 | rooly | how can an inode refuse to erase |
| 02:04.01 | DocScrutinizer | that's actually a miracle |
| 02:04.19 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-06-07 00:38:47] <DocScrutinizer> fsck! /etc/localtime: error: stale NFS file handle :-((( |
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| 02:04.39 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-06-07 00:56:55] <DocScrutinizer2> rm -f /etc/localtime; rm: cannot stat "etc/localtime" : stale NFS file handle |
| 02:04.47 | rooly | !? |
| 02:04.55 | rooly | where the hell is the NFS coming in |
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| 02:05.04 | DocScrutinizer | no idea |
| 02:05.09 | rooly | i see |
| 02:05.11 | rooly | your right |
| 02:05.14 | DocScrutinizer | i got *no* NFS |
| 02:05.14 | rooly | something very odd |
| 02:05.27 | rooly | a miracle definitely |
| 02:05.33 | SpeedEvil | errno confusion? |
| 02:05.42 | DocScrutinizer | borked inode, fs driver is assuming it might be a NFS node |
| 02:06.00 | DocScrutinizer | resists boots, and rm -f |
| 02:06.13 | rooly | just rm -rf / |
| 02:06.23 | SpeedEvil | mke3fs |
| 02:06.30 | DocScrutinizer | so : either ext2fsck, or reflash |
| 02:06.36 | rooly | hmm |
| 02:06.48 | rooly | i think the FR kernel needs to get ext4 support compiled in! |
| 02:07.15 | DocScrutinizer | (I might want to save that inode block though, for my special friends ;-) |
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| 02:07.23 | rooly | lol |
| 02:07.55 | rooly | now, why do i think so? so that we can walk up to all the iPhone users and gloat that our phone can hold up to 4 exabytes of data, while there's is limited to just 8-16 gigs |
| 02:08.28 | rooly | then they can gloat that theirs makes phone calls |
| 02:08.57 | DocScrutinizer | well, seen this: ??? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19796, and this: |
| 02:08.59 | rooly | and with the latest distros, we can gloat that ours makes phone calls, has a useable bluetooth stack, and can play duke nukem |
| 02:09.01 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-06-07 00:07:29] <mrmoku> http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/dbus_1.2.14-r0_armv4t.ipk |
| 02:09.02 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-06-07 00:07:39] <mrmoku> http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/libdbus-1-3_1.2.14-r0_armv4t.ipk |
| 02:10.16 | rooly | eww |
| 02:10.19 | rooly | horrible |
| 02:10.23 | DocScrutinizer | if this pans out / holds the promise, this is a *really* great day for OM |
| 02:11.36 | DocScrutinizer | naw, not horrible. We *knew* about "horrible" for ~2months now. Today seems fe found the fix to close 90% of trac-tickets :-))) |
| 02:11.47 | rooly | !!!?? |
| 02:13.14 | DocScrutinizer | there's a nasty bug in dbus lins. This bug won't show on your gnome/KDE desktop as these aren't doing the tough stuff with dbus. FSO borked on it though. Today we seem to find the fix for all that oddity |
| 02:13.28 | DocScrutinizer | s/lins/libs/ |
| 02:13.54 | rooly | of course |
| 02:14.18 | rooly | main desktops don't need all that sub-process communication in real-time like a streamlined integrated distro does |
| 02:14.23 | DocScrutinizer | the two links above are fixed dbus libs |
| 02:14.32 | SpeedEvil | wonders what the last microSD compatible card will have a capacity of. |
| 02:14.37 | rooly | 32 |
| 02:14.46 | SpeedEvil | you know what I mean |
| 02:14.51 | DocScrutinizer | they seem to work and fix "some" (lol) issues we seen so far |
| 02:14.53 | rooly | oh |
| 02:15.05 | SpeedEvil | I mean native microSD sized cards |
| 02:15.20 | DocScrutinizer | heard it's 32G now |
| 02:15.31 | rooly | SDHC can support 32 gigs |
| 02:15.42 | rooly | SDXC can support up to 256 gigs |
| 02:15.46 | DocScrutinizer | my 16G is broken from fab :-S |
| 02:16.23 | DocScrutinizer | aaah, the last one in ~3years |
| 02:16.27 | DocScrutinizer | IC |
| 02:16.34 | DocScrutinizer | dunno |
| 02:16.51 | SpeedEvil | 256 is a slightly more sane limit. |
| 02:17.01 | DocScrutinizer | it won't get much smaller, so uSD is here to stay (formfactor) |
| 02:17.23 | SpeedEvil | rooly: I was more wondering when you'd be able to not buy microSD cards anymore - or they would not be compatible with FR |
| 02:17.33 | rooly | oic |
| 02:17.58 | DocScrutinizer | proly in 4 years we will use quantum efect storage hat needs no more physical electric contacts |
| 02:18.00 | rooly | when a 400mhz smartphone is nothing more than a calculator |
| 02:18.11 | SpeedEvil | rooly: maybe true. |
| 02:18.23 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: what may happen is contactless getting big |
| 02:18.27 | rooly | which will be the case within the next 10 years |
| 02:18.40 | DocScrutinizer | bbiam |
| 02:18.45 | SpeedEvil | (numbers-wise, not size) |
| 02:19.33 | rooly | so i bought an a7 |
| 02:19.35 | rooly | woo |
| 02:19.42 | rooly | since...i sorta lost my a6 |
| 02:20.42 | DocScrutinizer | aaah you were the lucky person to lose the best FR ever built ;-/ |
| 02:21.12 | DocScrutinizer | guesses in the long term connectivity will obsolete storage |
| 02:21.24 | rooly | it will |
| 02:21.33 | DocScrutinizer | LOCAL storage, that is |
| 02:21.35 | rooly | DocScrutinizer: how is that? |
| 02:21.40 | rooly | the a6 gave me loads of trouble |
| 02:21.44 | rooly | is the a7 worse? |
| 02:21.52 | SpeedEvil | Interesting |
| 02:21.59 | DocScrutinizer | no, but it's not any better ;-) |
| 02:22.16 | SpeedEvil | Some brief numbers indicate that 60GHz - power over wifi may not be insane |
| 02:22.22 | SpeedEvil | at least for 10mW or so |
| 02:22.30 | rooly | i betcha it buzzes less than my laptop |
| 02:22.40 | DocScrutinizer | actually rumour is A6 has better buzz suppresion (with fix) than A7 - looool |
| 02:22.56 | rooly | lol |
| 02:22.58 | SpeedEvil | And at that scale, you can do beamforming antennas on a platform the size of a microSD card |
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| 02:23.38 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: yup |
| 02:24.05 | DocScrutinizer | but you need a butload of micromotors to position it ;-DD |
| 02:24.07 | rooly | DocScrutinizer: so whats better, Android, OM2009, Qtopia, or Hackable:1 |
| 02:24.10 | SpeedEvil | (But it's going to be a long time before you can fit 20 antennas and drivers on a package that small at 100uW each) |
| 02:24.29 | DocScrutinizer | bah, I never touched any of them |
| 02:24.36 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: err - no - solid state |
| 02:24.42 | rooly | err, well wtf do you use |
| 02:24.48 | rooly | isn't om2009 based on fso? |
| 02:25.00 | DocScrutinizer | SHR-oemerge ATM |
| 02:25.37 | rooly | based on fso |
| 02:25.42 | rooly | amarite |
| 02:25.52 | DocScrutinizer | might give om2009 a shot eventually. *NONE* of the others ever will taint my DSL connection ;-) |
| 02:26.10 | rooly | lol |
| 02:26.19 | rooly | well i'm getting android pre-installed for mine |
| 02:26.42 | DocScrutinizer | android is a fake |
| 02:26.54 | rooly | i just wanted to see it working and if i like it |
| 02:26.55 | DocScrutinizer | it's not even linux |
| 02:27.06 | rooly | oh, i know its not |
| 02:27.18 | rooly | its goonux |
| 02:27.22 | DocScrutinizer | that's legitim. I don't like it nevertjeless |
| 02:27.49 | SpeedEvil | Iphone in some ways is more linuxy. |
| 02:27.50 | SpeedEvil | AIUI. |
| 02:28.05 | rooly | now, if i don't like andriod, i'm gonna throw some hackable:1 on there |
| 02:28.16 | rooly | if that doesn't pan out, i'm gonna jump on the parolli bandwagon |
| 02:28.17 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: yup |
| 02:28.42 | SpeedEvil | ponders people doing os-x'y things to iphone |
| 02:28.48 | DocScrutinizer | rooly: give SHR a try. worth it |
| 02:29.04 | SpeedEvil | (making it install on non-iphone hw) |
| 02:29.23 | rooly | SpeedEvil: only once they've succesfully put a full linux distro on there |
| 02:29.29 | rooly | debian or gentoo prolly |
| 02:29.44 | DocScrutinizer | huh |
| 02:29.47 | rooly | and then put open embedded |
| 02:29.48 | DocScrutinizer | you lost me |
| 02:30.15 | rooly | and then tried to get one openmoko distro or another working |
| 02:30.21 | rooly | to some degree or another |
| 02:30.36 | rooly | once that's been done, they are going to try to psystar it |
| 02:30.37 | DocScrutinizer | rooly: what U r talking bout? |
| 02:30.53 | rooly | people putting OSX on non-apple hardware |
| 02:31.01 | DocScrutinizer | aaah |
| 02:31.11 | DocScrutinizer | never heard of that |
| 02:31.13 | SpeedEvil | rooly: I mean - put iphone OS on non Iphone hw |
| 02:31.19 | rooly | GAH |
| 02:31.25 | rooly | dude, i know exactly what you mean |
| 02:31.31 | rooly | now go back, and read what i said |
| 02:31.48 | SpeedEvil | sorry - too tired. |
| 02:31.56 | DocScrutinizer | ~wtf GAH |
| 02:31.58 | DocScrutinizer | ;-D |
| 02:32.06 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 02:32.12 | rooly | right... |
| 02:32.18 | rooly | what time is it for you guys right now |
| 02:32.36 | DocScrutinizer | So Jun 7 04:32:26 2009 |
| 02:32.46 | rooly | oh, painful |
| 02:33.07 | rooly | only 930 here |
| 02:33.13 | DocScrutinizer | 2009-06-07 04:32, sorry :-) (less painful?) |
| 02:33.35 | rooly | (not in the slightest) |
| 02:33.44 | SpeedEvil | 3:34AM |
| 02:33.50 | rooly | christ man! |
| 02:33.59 | rooly | what, taiwan and china respectively? |
| 02:34.11 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: bah those british dust-eaters |
| 02:34.17 | rooly | no, wait |
| 02:34.19 | rooly | europe |
| 02:34.21 | SpeedEvil | checks to see if he's moved continent. |
| 02:34.31 | SpeedEvil | Nope - outside still looks like scotland. |
| 02:34.38 | rooly | doesn't think europe and asia should be counted as different continents |
| 02:34.48 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: oooh sorry :) |
| 02:35.05 | DocScrutinizer | I admit I'm totally wrong |
| 02:35.24 | DocScrutinizer | EMEA |
| 02:35.31 | rooly | ~wtf emea |
| 02:35.37 | rooly | exactly |
| 02:35.45 | rooly | cause thats not an acronym |
| 02:35.49 | rooly | or whatever |
| 02:36.00 | DocScrutinizer | apt: EMEA is Europe, MiddleEast, Africa |
| 02:36.01 | apt | okay, DocScrutinizer |
| 02:36.10 | rooly | ooo, neat |
| 02:36.38 | DocScrutinizer | wtf won't work tho I guess |
| 02:36.42 | rooly | ~wtf roflmaool |
| 02:36.46 | DocScrutinizer | ~wtf emea |
| 02:36.54 | DocScrutinizer | ~EMEA |
| 02:36.55 | apt | hmm... emea is Europe, MiddleEast, Africa |
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| 02:37.26 | rooly | apt: roflmfaool is rolling on floor, laughing my fucking ass off out loud |
| 02:37.26 | apt | rooly: please, watch your language. |
| 02:37.30 | rooly | aww |
| 02:37.52 | rooly | apt: roflmaool is rolling on floor, laughing my ass off out loud |
| 02:37.53 | apt | rooly: okay |
| 02:37.54 | DocScrutinizer | hhheeeeeehhheeeee |
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| 02:38.21 | DocScrutinizer | looool |
| 02:38.49 | rooly | man |
| 02:38.51 | DocScrutinizer | apt, you're a silly sucking asshole of a ircbot |
| 02:38.51 | apt | I know you are but what am I? |
| 02:38.52 | rooly | i hate myself right now |
| 02:39.07 | rooly | okay |
| 02:39.11 | rooly | that deserves a new one |
| 02:39.57 | rooly | ldlshc |
| 02:39.57 | rooly | no |
| 02:40.00 | rooly | ldlshiac |
| 02:40.19 | rooly | apt: ldlshiac is laying down laughing so hard i am coughing |
| 02:40.20 | apt | okay, rooly |
| 02:40.38 | DocScrutinizer | ~ldlshiac |
| 02:40.39 | apt | i guess ldlshiac is laying down laughing so hard i am coughing |
| 02:40.46 | doc|laptop | apt: ldlshiac is a terrible acronym that needs to die |
| 02:40.46 | apt | ...but ldlshiac is already something else... |
| 02:40.56 | doc|laptop | apt: do it! |
| 02:40.57 | apt | ACTION does it!. |
| 02:41.04 | doc|laptop | nods |
| 02:41.06 | rooly | lmao |
| 02:41.16 | DocScrutinizer | apt: ldlshiac is also a terrible acronym that needs to die |
| 02:41.16 | apt | okay, DocScrutinizer |
| 02:41.25 | DocScrutinizer | ~ldlshiac |
| 02:41.25 | apt | rumour has it, ldlshiac is laying down laughing so hard i am coughing, or a terrible acronym that needs to die |
| 02:41.25 | doc|laptop | ! |
| 02:41.36 | doc|laptop | :) |
| 02:41.39 | doc|laptop | works for me |
| 02:41.41 | rooly | awesome |
| 02:41.51 | rooly | i really am ldlshiac |
| 02:41.59 | DocScrutinizer | praise DocScrutinizer !!! |
| 02:42.06 | doc|laptop | so, anyone got a nice way to play with volume settings. One that isn't "edit a file"? |
| 02:42.12 | doc|laptop | hails DocScrutinizer |
| 02:42.27 | DocScrutinizer | doc|laptop: yup, here |
| 02:42.37 | doc|laptop | editing a file is really not ideal, mid-call |
| 02:42.39 | rooly | doc|laptop: well, if you don't mind losing all your changes after reboot, alsa-controls works fine |
| 02:42.58 | doc|laptop | rooly: somewhat annoying :/ |
| 02:43.04 | rooly | oh, verilly |
| 02:43.09 | rooly | someone should do something about that |
| 02:43.19 | DocScrutinizer | involves "alsactl restore" prior, and "alsactl store" after meddling with volumne settings |
| 02:43.31 | doc|laptop | is it really a big problem for someone with some programming skills (that I lack for this platform) to port a volume widget? |
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| 02:43.52 | rooly | doc|laptop: there actually is a volume widget for FSO-illume |
| 02:44.04 | rooly | it...just...crashes X... |
| 02:44.11 | doc|laptop | :o |
| 02:44.13 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 02:44.28 | doc|laptop | so, to answer my question, yes :) |
| 02:44.36 | rooly | no |
| 02:44.45 | rooly | the widget is just designed for a full desktop |
| 02:44.55 | doc|laptop | oh, wait, is that the enlightenment module? That used to crash X on my desktop too :D |
| 02:45.03 | rooly | probably |
| 02:45.30 | DocScrutinizer | if you ever could imagine the motivation it gave me to be fired by OM, and the general laziness of me, you'd know why this tool isn't finished yet |
| 02:46.05 | rooly | should write one |
| 02:46.11 | rooly | doesn't feel like learning also controls |
| 02:46.19 | rooly | HOWEVER |
| 02:46.27 | DocScrutinizer | rooly: feel free to ask me |
| 02:46.33 | rooly | i do think a little bit of file manipulation could be managed well |
| 02:46.36 | rooly | just modify state files |
| 02:46.46 | rooly | but...that would be bad in-call |
| 02:46.55 | doc|laptop | yeah, was just going to ask about that |
| 02:47.24 | doc|laptop | yesterday I had to sneak into a corner in a shopping centre just to be able to hear a person I was calling. |
| 02:47.28 | rooly | since...ya know...it would have to reload the entire alsa config, and reroute the audio, while there's a pending audio signal |
| 02:47.32 | doc|laptop | no the street? forget it. |
| 02:47.37 | doc|laptop | *on |
| 02:47.40 | DocScrutinizer | you seen http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/ALSA/ACI ?? |
| 02:47.47 | rooly | doc|laptop: i know the feeling |
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| 02:48.08 | rooly | doc|laptop: however, many phones without volume controls do that for me |
| 02:48.16 | doc|laptop | yep |
| 02:48.40 | rooly | DocScrutinizer: what is this supposed to be |
| 02:48.58 | DocScrutinizer | the better alternative to alsa statefiles |
| 02:49.30 | DocScrutinizer | though (i told ya I'm lazy) not got beyonf the first basic steps yet |
| 02:49.45 | rooly | ic |
| 02:50.05 | rooly | so...we're waiting for you to start on something that could revolutionize the phone's audio subsystem |
| 02:50.15 | rooly | and you're lazy |
| 02:50.18 | rooly | so... |
| 02:50.23 | rooly | ... |
| 02:50.25 | rooly | carry the 4 |
| 02:50.29 | DocScrutinizer | it's utterly nonsense to switch *each and every* wm8753 control, if you actually need only 5 |
| 02:50.30 | rooly | then the 3 |
| 02:50.37 | rooly | okay, we're utterly screwed |
| 02:50.52 | rooly | DocScrutinizer: obviously |
| 02:51.18 | doc|laptop | how much does the alsa-sucks point factor into all this? |
| 02:51.34 | rooly | speakerphone, headset, and mic, and headphones |
| 02:52.01 | doc|laptop | if I could get speak (so I can hear calls) and mic so people can hear me I'd be a happy man |
| 02:52.04 | rooly | however, headphones are particularly useless since the size of the antenna wreaks havoc on them |
| 02:52.16 | doc|laptop | oh, and also, the dates on newly received texts are still wrong, 1969. |
| 02:52.30 | rooly | have you tried date -s |
| 02:52.33 | DocScrutinizer | U see, there's gsm_earpiece.amix which should enable modem output to earpiece |
| 02:53.53 | DocScrutinizer | you are confusing me with that date stuff |
| 02:54.04 | doc|laptop | rooly: output is today's wrong, but still not 1969 |
| 02:54.07 | DocScrutinizer | actually you lost me |
| 02:54.11 | doc|laptop | er, s/today's/ |
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| 02:56.38 | DocScrutinizer | do a 'amixer -s </usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsm_earpiece.amix' instead of a 0.7seconds "alsactl restore", and your earpiece should playback farend voice |
| 02:56.45 | rooly | aint 1969 the 0x0 date value? |
| 02:56.56 | DocScrutinizer | I think so |
| 02:57.10 | DocScrutinizer | still I dunno what U r talking bout |
| 02:57.17 | rooly | his date is zeroed |
| 02:57.19 | rooly | somehow |
| 02:57.25 | DocScrutinizer | which date |
| 02:57.38 | rooly | the hardware clock |
| 02:57.42 | DocScrutinizer | his personal "best before" ?? ;-) |
| 02:57.59 | rooly | saw that pdf about the buzz fix |
| 02:58.04 | rooly | seriously? |
| 02:58.06 | doc|laptop | DocScrutinizer: on received SMS |
| 02:58.07 | rooly | thats it? |
| 02:58.23 | doc|laptop | also, am I wrong with date -s 20090909 ? |
| 02:58.39 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 02:58.43 | DocScrutinizer | aah, hw-clock. The RTC is backup'd by the backup bat. But this piece of shit is broken on 50% devicers |
| 02:58.45 | doc|laptop | argh |
| 02:58.47 | doc|laptop | that's time |
| 02:58.56 | doc|laptop | ! |
| 02:59.07 | doc|laptop | sighs |
| 02:59.25 | doc|laptop | ok, you know what, in future, I'm buying somewhat finished products |
| 02:59.31 | doc|laptop | screw this early adopter crap |
| 02:59.32 | rooly | date -s 2009060730400.00 |
| 02:59.39 | doc|laptop | rooly: thanks |
| 02:59.44 | rooly | roughly |
| 02:59.51 | rooly | i think thats right |
| 03:00.10 | doc|laptop | what's 30400? |
| 03:00.26 | rooly | woops |
| 03:00.32 | doc|laptop | hehe, 0340? |
| 03:00.37 | DocScrutinizer | hey, it has advantages: you never have a misconfigured PMU that will refuse to boot due to wrong USB_curlim or sth like that |
| 03:00.56 | rooly | 200906090400.00 |
| 03:01.04 | doc|laptop | rooly: thanks |
| 03:01.17 | doc|laptop | stabs |
| 03:01.30 | rooly | dodges |
| 03:01.47 | doc|laptop | date -s 200906062000.00 returns Thu Aug 9 06:06:00 GMT +7 2001! |
| 03:01.58 | doc|laptop | it's ok, it was the phone receiving the stabbing |
| 03:02.06 | DocScrutinizer | mooohaaahaaa |
| 03:02.14 | doc|laptop | explain that one! |
| 03:02.38 | rooly | wtf!? |
| 03:03.03 | doc|laptop | wrong format? |
| 03:03.39 | rooly | that should return Sat June 6th 20:00:00 |
| 03:03.49 | doc|laptop | :| |
| 03:03.54 | DocScrutinizer | fuck busybox!!!!! |
| 03:03.58 | rooly | 2009 |
| 03:04.22 | rooly | date -s YYYYMMDDHHmm:SS |
| 03:04.24 | rooly | woops |
| 03:04.30 | rooly | YYYYMMDDHHmm.SS |
| 03:04.38 | doc|laptop | that's what I'm setting! |
| 03:04.39 | doc|laptop | :( |
| 03:05.02 | rooly | i realize |
| 03:05.15 | doc|laptop | I know, I'm just semi-ranting |
| 03:05.34 | rooly | welll |
| 03:05.48 | rooly | maybe you have a bad timezone file |
| 03:05.59 | rooly | thats setting you back...like...8 years instead of 8 hours |
| 03:06.10 | doc|laptop | o.O |
| 03:06.34 | DocScrutinizer | well, guys. Will increase my response time, by moving over to living room, starting xchat on N810 (which sounded like reboot once again a few minutes ago), and wathing some SF on TV |
| 03:06.54 | doc|laptop | don't you mean you'll decrease your response time? :) |
| 03:07.05 | DocScrutinizer | fuck the TZ file, if you got borked inode - lol |
| 03:07.15 | doc|laptop | so, basically, I have a fucked phone? |
| 03:07.32 | DocScrutinizer | no, *I* got |
| 03:07.44 | doc|laptop | hmmm? |
| 03:08.15 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-06-07 04:04:18] <DocScrutinizer> [2009-06-07 00:38:47] <DocScrutinizer> fsck! /etc/localtime: error: stale NFS file handle :-((( |
| 03:08.46 | rooly | laughs |
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| 03:09.16 | doc|laptop | nfs?! |
| 03:09.20 | DocScrutinizer | heads off direction SF. no I mean "increase" |
| 03:09.41 | doc|laptop | yes, my bad :/ |
| 03:10.59 | DocScrutinizer | so seems theres only bullshit on TV |
| 03:11.07 | rooly | of course, doc |
| 03:11.11 | rooly | nothing worth watching |
| 03:11.20 | rooly | communication is the new broadcasting |
| 03:11.37 | rooly | it should be called the FBC over here in the US |
| 03:16.24 | slaxxer | maybe neovento is worth a try |
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| 03:19.13 | slaxxer | so which bugs were fixed with this new shr-unstable an kernel Doc? |
| 03:19.19 | slaxxer | Doc |
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| 04:20.27 | slaxxer | the latest shr-unstable has an SHR boot splash:) |
| 04:23.03 | DocScrutinizer | DONT PANIC rules |
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| 04:24.10 | slaxxer | yea i can set my time |
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| 04:24.33 | doc|work | bastard :( |
| 04:25.26 | slaxxer | get back to work |
| 04:26.06 | doc|home | in your face! |
| 04:26.08 | doc|home | etc |
| 04:29.37 | slaxxer | what ya got installed? |
| 04:30.58 | slaxxer | time stayed correct after reboot |
| 04:32.11 | slaxxer | phone works |
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| 04:34.12 | slaxxer | ttff 1 minuite |
| 04:38.05 | doc|home | slaxxer: when I set it it returns the date all wrong |
| 04:38.12 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer says it's a hardware fuck up |
| 04:48.22 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.53 | slaxxer | send it back then |
| 04:53.04 | doc|home | slaxxer: shr-oemerge |
| 04:53.13 | doc|home | slaxxer: would end up getting raped by taxes probably |
| 04:53.24 | doc|home | fuck it, I'm about 6 months from just giving up |
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| 04:56.14 | slaxxer | whiner |
| 04:56.29 | slaxxer | put it on ebay |
| 04:56.30 | doc|home | I hope you're trying to be funny |
| 04:56.45 | doc|home | nah, I'm thinking I won't inflict it on anyone |
| 04:57.00 | doc|home | I'll leave it on my desk as a reminder never to be an early adopter again |
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| 05:01.44 | slaxxer | try the latest shr-unstable an see |
| 05:01.55 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.57 | doc|home | I tried unstable last week, it had its own problems, and oemerge is apparently more recent again |
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| 07:40.53 | dehqan | hi 2 all |
| 07:41.08 | dehqan | before buying FR there is some questions |
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| 07:43.16 | dehqan | 1 -Do that headsets that are sold with FR have problem with it ,like buzzy ? |
| 07:47.26 | dehqan | 2-Can we use any bluetooth headset with FR ? |
| 07:47.58 | dehqan | 3- which brand of microSD card should be bought for it ? |
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| 07:59.26 | PaulFertser | dehqan: sometimes bt headsets work, depends on the particular brand |
| 07:59.44 | PaulFertser | dehqany usd should work |
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| 08:08.36 | PaulFertser | dehqan: sometimes bt headsets work, depends on the particular brand |
| 08:09.00 | PaulFertser | dehqan: any usd should work |
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| 09:33.35 | flohack | Hi! Has someone installed koolu android beta7 manually to NAND + SD? I'd need some help, please. |
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| 09:36.24 | flohack | Can someone please tell me which image has to got to which NAND / SD partition? |
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| 09:38.32 | ndnihil | ? |
| 09:38.42 | ndnihil | it depends on what image you flash to it |
| 09:39.41 | flohack | ndnihil: I'd like to put koolu beta7 on NAND + sd, but I can't use the auto installer |
| 09:40.08 | flohack | Therefore I need to know which file (from the .zip/.tgz) I need to flash to which NAND partition, or extract to which SD partition. |
| 09:40.49 | flohack | ndnihil: I can't use the auto installer because of a bug (badblocks related) in Qi, which renders it unusable on my freerunner. |
| 09:41.21 | ndnihil | you can probably follow the same instructions as running debian from sd |
| 09:41.26 | ndnihil | it's on the wiki |
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| 09:41.44 | ndnihil | might be slightly different for an android image |
| 09:41.49 | ndnihil | I've not tried that |
| 09:42.12 | flohack | ndnihil: The 'slight' difference is the problem, as there are 4 kernel images within the archive |
| 09:42.24 | ndnihil | well, you can only boot one kernel at a time |
| 09:42.33 | ndnihil | pick one and give it a try |
| 09:42.39 | ndnihil | if that doesn't work, try the next one |
| 09:42.42 | ndnihil | etc... |
| 09:42.59 | flohack | ...and what about the rest? where does userdata.img go? |
| 09:43.36 | flohack | andoid is not verbose at all...it just hangs while booting if something is wrong |
| 09:43.54 | ndnihil | couldn't tell you |
| 09:44.03 | ndnihil | I've never used android |
| 09:44.32 | flohack | However, thanks! Is someone here who actually used android beta7? |
| 09:46.15 | Zorkman | nope, only beta6 |
| 09:46.43 | ndnihil | android is for fanboys anyway |
| 09:46.51 | ndnihil | flash SHR to it and suffer with the rest of us :) |
| 09:49.28 | flohack | Zorkman: Did you use the automatic installer? |
| 09:53.41 | Zorkman | flohack: yes |
| 09:55.45 | flohack | Zorkman: ...thanks anyway |
| 09:58.25 | messerting | Hi, I'm trying to do an nfs mount on my moko, but get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfs'". I'm using SHR-testing. Any suggestions...? |
| 09:58.43 | ndnihil | modprobe nfs |
| 09:59.00 | messerting | NFS is not listed in "/proc/filesystems" |
| 09:59.18 | messerting | ndnihil: "modprobe nfsd" worked, but still no go at the mount commnad |
| 09:59.31 | messerting | modprobing nfs gives "FATAL: Module nfs not found." |
| 09:59.48 | messerting | I do have kernel-module-nfs-acl installed |
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| 10:00.54 | ndnihil | /lib/modules/2.6.28-rc4/kernel/fs/nfs/nfs.ko |
| 10:00.58 | ndnihil | my shr-testing has it |
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| 10:01.07 | ndnihil | I'm running an older version though |
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| 10:01.38 | messerting | ndnihil: I've got /lib/modules/2.6.29-rc2/kernel/fs/nfs_common/ |
| 10:02.01 | ndnihil | see if there's a .tar.gz of modules that goes with it |
| 10:02.04 | messerting | and thus the "nfs_acl", but I don't know what that is... |
| 10:02.54 | messerting | ndnihil: ah, maybe I've forgot to install that, thanks - will check! |
| 10:05.42 | ndnihil | hrm, for shr-testing there is a modules tar for 2.6.28, but not .29 |
| 10:05.46 | messerting | ndnihil: Hm, my kernel comes from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ but there's no module package for that kernel... Can I use the old one? |
| 10:05.54 | messerting | exactly :) |
| 10:06.07 | ndnihil | no, the modules need to be compiled for the same version kernel |
| 10:06.17 | messerting | So, how do downgrade the kernel... :/ |
| 10:06.39 | ndnihil | grab the 2.6.28 .bin |
| 10:06.41 | ndnihil | and flash it |
| 10:07.04 | messerting | ndnihil: ok, thanks |
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| 10:08.41 | ndnihil | there is a .29 modules tar in unstable |
| 10:08.48 | ndnihil | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ |
| 10:08.57 | messerting | hm, will test that first |
| 10:08.59 | ndnihil | might be the same version |
| 10:09.42 | messerting | Is it possible to simply opkg upgrade to shr-unstable? |
| 10:09.59 | ndnihil | simply? I doubt it |
| 10:10.44 | ndnihil | opkg is rather "dumb" |
| 10:11.21 | ndnihil | I think of it more as a shell script around wget and tar, rather than something like apt or rpm |
| 10:12.10 | messerting | ok, but which modules-xxx.tgz to choose... |
| 10:12.50 | ndnihil | whichever one matches your kernel |
| 10:14.57 | messerting | Interesting: "opkg list_installed|grep kernel" gives "kernel-2.6.29-rc2 - 2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2" |
| 10:17.36 | messerting | So it seems the 2.6.29 kernel is in fact a 2.6.28 kernel? |
| 10:17.37 | ndnihil | I wouldn't think so |
| 10:17.37 | ndnihil | I'd chalk that up to opkg being stupid |
| 10:17.37 | messerting | Hm, I'll give that 2.6.28 tar.gz a go and see what happens |
| 10:17.37 | messerting | yep |
| 10:17.37 | ndnihil | do you have the kernel image you flashed to it? |
| 10:17.37 | messerting | yes |
| 10:17.37 | ndnihil | what is the file name? |
| 10:17.37 | messerting | I used "shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2 uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin" |
| 10:17.37 | messerting | so - "-latest"... |
| 10:17.37 | ndnihil | ah |
| 10:17.38 | ndnihil | I usually grab the long named version |
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| 10:17.38 | ndnihil | -latest is just a symlink to that |
| 10:17.38 | messerting | yes - smarter - will do that next time :) |
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| 10:57.55 | henk | hi |
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| 11:04.36 | PBeck | ahoi |
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| 11:28.16 | Zorkman | aaaaaaaaargh PBeck |
| 11:29.46 | ndnihil | hrm, new shr-unstable looks nice |
| 11:29.50 | ndnihil | but no usb network |
| 11:31.04 | PBeck | :) |
| 11:31.19 | ndnihil | and settings just locked up |
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| 11:35.23 | ndnihil | usb0 -> eth2 |
| 11:35.25 | ndnihil | for some reason |
| 11:37.08 | ndnihil | yay, gprs settings are persistent |
| 11:37.27 | ndnihil | good job shr people |
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| 11:44.28 | Zorkman | ndnihil: it's normal, from now on it's ethx |
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| 11:46.05 | ndnihil | hrm, wifi with wpa still broken |
| 11:46.56 | ndnihil | zork: thanks, do you know why they made the change? |
| 11:47.29 | ndnihil | ooh, it's showing up as an acm device now too? |
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| 11:49.05 | Zorkman | ndnihil: don't know, but there seems to be a consensus that it's the sane thing to do |
| 11:49.16 | ndnihil | *shrug* either is fine by me |
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| 11:53.40 | ThomasGeo | hi, i just started with the gta02 and i am trying to alter the background image with 'gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/poky/interface/wallpaper /usr/share/pixmaps/wallpaper.png ' but all i get is: can't overwrite existing read-only value :... set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path. can you help me here? |
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| 11:54.46 | alewe__ | hi OpenMoko |
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| 11:55.38 | alewe__ | spricht man hier DE |
| 11:56.17 | ThomasGeo | @alewe__ wenn das so ist, dann wuerde ich es so halten. glaube ich aber nicht |
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| 11:58.10 | ThomasGeo | no one can tell me how to alter the background image in a way to overwrite the config path (read-only)? |
| 11:58.23 | alewe__ | gibt es Deutsche-IRC kanal für OpenMoko? |
| 11:58.56 | alewe__ | >ThomasGeo: Danke für Info |
| 11:59.17 | ThomasGeo | alewe__: ich habe eben erst mit openmoko angefangen und halt mal in der liste der ircs geschaut. habe nur einen franzoesischen gefunden. |
| 11:59.43 | ThomasGeo | alewe__: der rest duerfte englisch gehalten sein |
| 11:59.44 | alewe__ | das habe ich auch gesehen |
| 11:59.52 | alewe__ | schade |
| 12:00.43 | alewe__ | habe die /list auch durch gesucht |
| 12:00.46 | Weiss | does #neo1973-germany still exist? |
| 12:01.14 | ThomasGeo | weiss: let me check... |
| 12:01.30 | alewe__ | Danke Weiss |
| 12:01.56 | Weiss | kein Problem :D |
| 12:03.43 | ThomasGeo | Weiss: also bei mir taucht nur neo auf und sonst nix. |
| 12:07.40 | mihairu | hi guys, what rendering should i use? software, xreneder or softare16? |
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| 12:21.01 | mwester | ndnihil, the usb0/ethN change is a result of using the Openmoko official mac addresses assigned to the USB instead of letting the kernel pick pseudo-random mac addresses. The big advantage is that it now plays better with Network Managers on the host system -- the mac address is now persistent, and that eth2 interface is permanently assigned to that particular FR and no other usb-connected device. |
| 12:23.24 | ndnihil | makes sense |
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| 12:28.48 | ndnihil | hrm, not able to receive sms |
| 12:28.52 | alewe__ | Weiss: wie heisst der kanal #neo19??? |
| 12:29.15 | alewe__ | hab zu frü weg geklickt |
| 12:29.19 | ndnihil | oh wait, it receives, it just doesn't alert |
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| 12:40.39 | PBeck | alewe__: #neo1973-germany |
| 12:41.04 | alewe__ | danke PBeck |
| 12:41.14 | alewe__ | bist meine retung |
| 12:41.23 | PBeck | of course :D |
| 12:41.49 | PBeck | i am the glory saver! :) |
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| 13:23.41 | jonquark | In the SHR screenshot id 2803 here: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php Is the wifi manager mentioned a working GUI for wireless networks? |
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| 13:26.51 | Zorkman | jonquark: what do you exactly mean? |
| 13:27.16 | Zorkman | this is just part of shr-settings to turn wifi on/off, and configure gprs and turn it on/off |
| 13:27.39 | Zorkman | a gui for typing wifi passwords etc, is only available in the playground; not yet standard in shr |
| 13:27.48 | jonquark | zorkman: I mean the "wifi manager (off)" button |
| 13:28.36 | jonquark | which isn't in the version of shr I last used - it doesn't open a gui for wifi passwords etc? |
| 13:29.38 | Zorkman | jonquark: that's what i mean, it's just for powering the wifi chip up or down |
| 13:29.54 | jonquark | zorkman: ok thanks very much |
| 13:30.02 | Zorkman | a gui to enter passwords is not standard shipped, but it is available in the playground |
| 13:30.03 | Zorkman | jonquark: np |
| 13:30.15 | jonquark | I look forward to seeing it move into SHR ;) |
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| 14:24.59 | dehqan | hi 2 all , Is touchpen with laser moe usable ? or without laser is enoughe? |
| 14:26.13 | Zorkman | hehe, you don't need a laser for the phone :) |
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| 14:40.24 | dehqan | Tanx zorkman ,How about wired headset that is sold with phone ,has their mic been buzz fixed ? |
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| 17:16.58 | dehqan | hi 2 all ;there is some questions before buying FR |
| 17:17.24 | dehqan | 1- which bluetooth headset is better to use with FR ?which brand ? |
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| 17:47.55 | dehqan | 1- which bluetooth headset is better to use with FR ?which brand ? |
| 17:47.56 | SpeedEvil | dehqan: you're assuming that any work |
| 17:47.56 | SpeedEvil | dehqan: As I understand it, none of the common distributions will actually work with a headset. |
| 17:47.56 | SpeedEvil | I could of course be wrong. |
| 17:47.57 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: i don't think distros are an issue, some hw just does not work |
| 17:47.57 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: I mean - I haven't seen anything on the wiki claiming that headsets work |
| 17:47.57 | SpeedEvil | And I do understand that they differ |
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| 17:57.28 | dehqan | tanx so in wiki has beeen said > Note that the "Big C" buzz fix only fixes the internal microphone; a wired headset mic will still cause buzz [4]. A bluetooth headset may be one solution. |
| 17:58.01 | dehqan | hence bluetooth headset should be buy ok ? |
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| 17:58.18 | dehqan | now which brands maybe some one in mailist knows that |
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| 18:03.32 | SpeedEvil | 'a bluetooth headset may be one solution' does not mean that it actually is implemented. |
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| 18:08.19 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: though it is implemented in the frameworkd already. |
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| 18:10.01 | SpeedEvil | I assume that doesn't mean 'it just works' ? |
| 18:11.08 | SpeedEvil | ponders if laptop will keep connection on top of operating microwave. |
| 18:11.20 | SpeedEvil | is surprised. |
| 18:11.25 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: hm, it is supposed to just work |
| 18:11.40 | SpeedEvil | Anyone tried a bluetooth headset? |
| 18:11.42 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: after you pair it and add an entry to frameworkd config file. |
| 18:11.46 | PaulFertser | I did |
| 18:12.12 | SpeedEvil | Ah - I was meaning 'just works' as in GUI all the way - and it works as a user might expect it to. |
| 18:12.24 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: but this particular handset is somehow not compatible with FR's chip and doesn't produce any sound in SCO mode so i couldn't use it. But it turned on on calls etc. |
| 18:12.35 | SpeedEvil | k |
| 18:12.40 | PaulFertser | GUI? what's that? |
| 18:12.56 | doc|work | it's the thing that seems to be lacking! |
| 18:13.01 | SpeedEvil | grandmother user interface |
| 18:13.20 | PaulFertser | If nobody writes it it means nobody needs it, this is how i see. |
| 18:13.34 | doc|work | actually, that may just be me narrowing "lacking" too much when it relates to the freerunner |
| 18:14.03 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: assuming of course everybody who needs it is skilled in the art |
| 18:14.29 | SpeedEvil | Like the headset button thing. |
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| 19:35.42 | fredrin|Neo | wifi+neo+pidgin first time working |
| 19:36.46 | Digital_Pioneer | Hey, is there some kind of 'getting started' or something for writing C++ apps that use Elementary? |
| 19:37.01 | doc|work | you know what's nice? When a wiki for a mobile device looks shit on that mobile device |
| 19:37.26 | czaks | fredrin|Neo, which distro? |
| 19:37.33 | slaxxer | yea |
| 19:37.41 | slaxxer | shr-unstable? |
| 19:37.47 | slaxxer | lateast |
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| 19:37.52 | fredrin|Neo | shr unstable latest update |
| 19:38.00 | czaks | slaxxer, tried that today |
| 19:38.07 | slaxxer | works |
| 19:38.08 | czaks | shr-settings had problems with dbus |
| 19:38.26 | slaxxer | can set time in the gui |
| 19:38.28 | fredrin|Neo | i dont like pidgin though |
| 19:38.31 | czaks | anyway, the latest kernel didn't boot for me (one back was ok) |
| 19:38.53 | slaxxer | i have the latest on a v5 |
| 19:39.05 | fredrin|Neo | some way to get fullscreen? |
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| 19:39.25 | fredrin|Neo | slaxxer ditto |
| 19:40.04 | fredrin|Neo | wifi dont like suspend though |
| 19:42.37 | doc|work | I'm trying to pre-download a map from openstreetmap. Anyone know which format to use to play in the cache dir? |
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| 19:44.44 | fredrin|Neo | ni idea? |
| 19:46.57 | fredrin|Neo | what a good irc client? |
| 19:47.18 | Defiant | irssi |
| 19:47.47 | fredrin|Neo | for the neo? |
| 19:48.02 | Defiant | why not? |
| 19:49.06 | czaks | xchat? |
| 19:49.06 | fredrin|Neo | did not know it was in the feed |
| 19:49.44 | fredrin|Neo | ill try it |
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| 19:52.28 | fredrin|Neo | no irssi in the feed |
| 19:53.49 | doc|work | anyone? |
| 19:54.38 | czaks | doc|work, tangogps? |
| 19:55.18 | doc|work | czaks: yep |
| 19:55.25 | czaks | doc|work, .png |
| 19:55.26 | doc|work | sorry, should have said |
| 19:55.39 | czaks | but tangogps has an option to autodownload that |
| 19:55.40 | doc|work | czaks: ok, and if I select a block will it download higher res images within that block? |
| 19:55.55 | doc|work | czaks: only if you have gprs and I'm in canuckistan where data rates are silly expensive |
| 19:55.56 | czaks | i don't think so |
| 19:56.04 | doc|work | hmm, is there any way to get those? |
| 19:56.11 | doc|work | besides constant zooming? |
| 19:56.19 | czaks | uhm |
| 19:56.25 | czaks | i don't know |
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