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| 00:42.51 | rooly | neat |
| 00:43.01 | rooly | just got the email for FR upgrades |
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| 00:58.03 | rooly | where can i get the change list for the a7 revision |
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| 01:45.33 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5094 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/STATUS: |
| 01:45.33 | CIA-53 | openmoko: A bit of cleanup and small improvements of components/STATUS: |
| 01:45.33 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - added author field to make it easier to spot eligible reviewers |
| 01:45.33 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - renamed usb_mini_b to mini_usb_b |
| 01:45.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - added Rene's new components |
| 01:45.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - added remark that crystal naming could perhaps be generalized |
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| 02:16.44 | rooly | so... |
| 02:16.48 | rooly | bought another fr |
| 02:19.58 | rooly | jesus h christ, why is nobody talking |
| 02:27.28 | Blu3 | hmm |
| 02:27.32 | Blu3 | busy writing code :) |
| 02:27.39 | rooly | not good enough |
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| 02:48.41 | slaxxer | waiting in line to buy the pre? |
| 02:48.59 | mwester | They're at the funeral. |
| 02:49.27 | slaxxer | palm funeral ? |
| 02:49.30 | mwester | They asked me to do the eulogy for Openmoko, but I'm busy. |
| 02:49.54 | rooly | lol |
| 02:50.16 | rooly | yeah...i bought one before it threw up the flowers |
| 02:50.23 | rooly | still a great piece of hardware |
| 02:50.42 | rooly | nobody can dispute that |
| 02:50.51 | rooly | mwester: do you know what the a7 revision changelog is? |
| 02:51.00 | slaxxer | did u get an a6 ot a7 |
| 02:51.07 | rooly | just bought an a7 |
| 02:51.24 | rooly | if i can find my a6 within the next several days, i'm gonna send it in for the upgrade |
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| 02:52.17 | mwester | rooly, no, but I know who might know that. Check with DocScrutinizer when he wakes. |
| 02:52.22 | slaxxer | multimoko owner like dave? |
| 02:52.31 | rooly | slaxxer: sorta |
| 02:52.45 | DocScrutinizer | lol, you should know me by now |
| 02:52.49 | slaxxer | what happened to dave anyways? |
| 02:52.59 | rooly | DocScrutinizer: do you know the a7 changelog? |
| 02:53.11 | rooly | its got to be more than a simple capacitor to get rid of the buzz |
| 02:53.21 | slaxxer | ok ic |
| 02:53.33 | DocScrutinizer | I'm supposed to, but honnestly... :-/ |
| 02:53.53 | rooly | its not online |
| 02:54.06 | DocScrutinizer | rooly: was this a question? |
| 02:54.24 | rooly | yes. is there more to the revision than the buzz fix |
| 02:55.09 | DocScrutinizer | I think yes. we didn't build A7 for the buzzfix. So there has to be some other change as well |
| 02:55.22 | DocScrutinizer | but I can't remember exactly |
| 02:55.38 | DocScrutinizer | thinks it was the Vsys capacitor |
| 02:55.58 | DocScrutinizer | I may check internal changelog eventually |
| 02:56.35 | rooly | anyone know what the word is on the glamo driver? |
| 02:56.50 | rooly | i read something a while back...like a month ago or something |
| 02:57.10 | DocScrutinizer | but there is no massive diff between A6 and A7 |
| 02:58.16 | rooly | well of course there wouldn't be |
| 02:58.21 | rooly | its still the gta02 |
| 02:58.42 | rooly | is volume improved on the damned thing? |
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| 03:25.06 | DocScrutinizer | did you check the damned alsa.controls? |
| 03:25.35 | rooly | yeah |
| 03:25.37 | DocScrutinizer | and modem at@aul=255 ? |
| 03:25.40 | rooly | but they don't stick |
| 03:25.55 | DocScrutinizer | lol. of course not |
| 03:26.13 | DocScrutinizer | need to store to gsmhandset.state |
| 03:27.01 | rooly | oic |
| 03:27.15 | rooly | then there's the echo thru the body problem |
| 03:27.30 | rooly | which i thought about stuffing insulation inside the phone |
| 03:28.05 | DocScrutinizer | how did you verify it's thru the body? |
| 03:28.22 | rooly | i didn't. that was a topic of discussion tho |
| 03:28.30 | rooly | its something i'd like to work on when i get my phone |
| 03:28.34 | DocScrutinizer | recently nobody complained about echo anymore, btw |
| 03:28.40 | rooly | oh? |
| 03:28.43 | rooly | software fix? |
| 03:28.47 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 03:29.24 | DocScrutinizer | enable echo cancellation in modem (what is exactly what all fso based distris do now) |
| 03:29.50 | rooly | neato |
| 03:30.06 | rooly | what about hackable1 |
| 03:30.06 | DocScrutinizer | did you know _all_ cellphones have this echo problem? |
| 03:30.15 | rooly | i have sorta noticed it |
| 03:30.20 | rooly | especially in speakerphone mode |
| 03:30.21 | DocScrutinizer | what is hackable ;-) |
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| 03:30.49 | DocScrutinizer | I checked speakerphone some 4 days ago. was excellent |
| 03:30.57 | rooly | hackable:1 looks to me like a retooling of the old gtk distro |
| 03:31.47 | DocScrutinizer | too bad then it seems it's really based on _old_ distro schemes and details |
| 03:32.13 | rooly | i personally much prefer the old gtk distro |
| 03:32.25 | DocScrutinizer | shrugs |
| 03:33.00 | rooly | mostly due to the not-horribly-disgustingly-bland interface |
| 03:33.12 | rooly | and that it had a full integrated PIM suite that worked for the most part |
| 03:33.27 | rooly | but thats just me |
| 03:33.43 | rooly | it definitely needs work |
| 03:33.55 | rooly | but gtk shouldn't have just been abandoned |
| 03:34.08 | DocScrutinizer | hw-department here, not distro maintainer. sorry |
| 03:34.32 | rooly | oh, not saying anything |
| 03:34.38 | rooly | not to you at least |
| 03:34.44 | rooly | just throwing that out there |
| 03:34.49 | rooly | it was a bad decision |
| 03:35.31 | rooly | qt libraries could have been integrated into the phone's x rendering, as well as kde, xfce, and e |
| 03:35.43 | rooly | without changing the whole damned thing to be so very ugly |
| 03:35.51 | rooly | and unuseable |
| 03:37.42 | DocScrutinizer | well, me and a number of other people are using it as daily phone |
| 03:37.57 | rooly | om2008? |
| 03:38.03 | rooly | i speak of om2008 |
| 03:38.19 | rooly | 'twas trash |
| 03:38.26 | rooly | i hear good things about om2009 |
| 03:38.31 | rooly | and i do so enjoy parolli |
| 03:38.39 | DocScrutinizer | bah, 2008 is past and dead and rotten |
| 03:39.05 | rooly | good |
| 03:39.39 | rooly | so a move back to the whole Phone/PIM + MiniPC |
| 03:40.03 | rooly | as opposed to a MiniPC with a gsm modem |
| 03:40.03 | DocScrutinizer | 2008.12 was considered an error even by some of the leading OM-staff. |
| 03:41.16 | rooly | see, this i didn't know |
| 03:41.23 | rooly | and it makes me both happy and sad |
| 03:41.46 | rooly | 1: that even those in charge agree with me and 2: why the hell was it done if it was a mistake |
| 03:43.17 | DocScrutinizer | political reasons. a bunch of a couple of dozens devels isn't easy to manage in a foss company ;-) |
| 03:45.02 | rooly | ic |
| 03:45.07 | rooly | well, i'm gonna head to bed |
| 03:45.08 | rooly | nn |
| 03:48.43 | Blu3 | nitey nite |
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| 04:47.50 | doc|work | anyone know an easy way to bump the volume, speaker and mic? |
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| 09:36.37 | mrkiko | Hi all!! Here in Italy, a LUG is showing your phones... |
| 09:36.52 | mrkiko | There where some voices of the entire project being "cancelled"... |
| 09:37.10 | ndnihil | the next version was cancelled |
| 09:37.13 | ndnihil | gta03 |
| 09:37.29 | ndnihil | check the first link in the topic |
| 09:37.56 | mrkiko | ok ok ... |
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| 09:38.13 | mrkiko | Do someone know if some versions of openmoko will have a "screen reader" for blind people? |
| 09:39.16 | ndnihil | that's just software |
| 09:39.30 | ndnihil | that can be put on any open phone platform |
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| 09:40.17 | ndnihil | well, it can be put on closed platforms too, but it's less likely |
| 09:41.05 | mrkiko | ndnihil: symbian provides one... but I hate closed-source software and platforms... |
| 09:41.46 | ndnihil | as do I |
| 09:41.58 | ndnihil | are you blind? |
| 09:42.03 | mrkiko | yes |
| 09:42.19 | ndnihil | what screen reader are you using at the moment? |
| 09:42.41 | ndnihil | actually, come to think of it, the gta02 might not be the right phone for a blind person |
| 09:42.44 | ndnihil | it's a touch screen |
| 09:42.45 | mrkiko | And infact ... I was needing a speaking phone. So I use symbian with talks from some year now... but... My mind is ... development-friendly, not user-friendly :) |
| 09:42.48 | ndnihil | no tactile feedback |
| 09:43.19 | mrkiko | I know... |
| 09:43.19 | ndnihil | there are only two buttons, power and auxillary |
| 09:43.31 | mrkiko | I knew... |
| 09:43.37 | ndnihil | ok, just checking |
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| 09:43.57 | mrkiko | I red various things regarding moko some time ago... but... actually I left this ambit because of the touch screen |
| 09:44.21 | ndnihil | hrm, you could probably attach a bluttooth or usb input device |
| 09:44.30 | ndnihil | one of those handheld chorded keyboards perhaps |
| 09:45.11 | mrkiko | And, if someone of you know, the symbian way of working is simply scandalous. Infact, I cracked all my phones (I disabled the system certification control) - I don't believe this to be right, but I believe I should be able3 at least to install what I want on my phone. This is however not freedom... |
| 09:45.37 | ndnihil | yeah |
| 09:45.46 | ndnihil | if you pay for the hardware, you should be able to do whatever you want with it |
| 09:45.58 | mrkiko | right |
| 09:46.11 | mrkiko | Aniway - being blind, at least I should wait... |
| 09:46.34 | ndnihil | you sound development minded |
| 09:46.56 | ndnihil | I'm sure your input and configuration work would be appreciated by others |
| 09:47.32 | mrkiko | May be... the problem is aniway - the fact that the final result won't be very usable... |
| 09:47.51 | ndnihil | how so? |
| 09:48.03 | ndnihil | it's basically a tiny (and slow) laptop running linux |
| 09:48.09 | mrkiko | For example - I would have to interface with the sms subsystem to read sms messages and write them... |
| 09:48.14 | Zorkman | mrkiko: there was once even a project to make it more friendly for blind people i think, let me search for it |
| 09:48.32 | ndnihil | I used to work with a blind guy who had his linux workstation set up quite nicely for his needs |
| 09:48.36 | ndnihil | and this was 10+ years ago |
| 09:48.56 | mrkiko | ndnihil: infact I use Linux... and I'm very happy with it!!! |
| 09:48.58 | ndnihil | normal linux screenreading software should work for it |
| 09:49.08 | mrkiko | Yes... I imagined... |
| 09:49.18 | ndnihil | I haven't seen it ported yet, but that shouldn't be too difficult |
| 09:49.26 | mrkiko | but... the problem is - that in Linux, configuring a braille display is very easy. Not so easy is configuring a vocal system... |
| 09:49.39 | ndnihil | ah |
| 09:50.06 | ndnihil | what's the name of the screenreading software for linux? |
| 09:50.19 | mrkiko | And having to connect the phone to a braille display would render it unusable in most situations... ; the name is brltty; |
| 09:50.29 | mrkiko | http://dave.mielke.cc/brltty/ I think |
| 09:50.43 | mrkiko | But yes - recompiling it for ARM v4t shouldn't be very difficult... |
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| 09:50.59 | mrkiko | And brltty is well-written - compliant with Linux APIs (using libusb for usb displays for example) |
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| 09:52.02 | ndnihil | do you touch-type on standard keyboards or do you have a special one? |
| 09:52.26 | mrkiko | I use a standard keyboard - 101 keys. I'm using a laptop ... now... |
| 09:52.32 | ndnihil | nice |
| 09:52.46 | mrkiko | since I'm on a LUG - now various people here are talking about various linux tematics :) |
| 09:53.00 | ndnihil | I think someone here was using a frogpad, have you tried one of those? |
| 09:53.09 | ndnihil | it's a small one-handed keyboard |
| 09:53.10 | mrkiko | no |
| 09:53.23 | mrkiko | mm... I may try some day... |
| 09:53.24 | ndnihil | bluetooth connected |
| 09:53.33 | Weiss | they seem to be hard to get hold of these days :( |
| 09:53.56 | mrkiko | Oh - various devices for blind are riddiculously expensive... |
| 09:54.08 | ndnihil | These are about $150 USD |
| 09:54.15 | mrkiko | especially here in Italy where the government is ignoring, as usual, the situations in various aspects... |
| 09:54.31 | mrkiko | ah ok... I may afford it some day ... |
| 09:54.52 | ndnihil | I'm tempted to try a frogpad, but I'm not sure how well my brain would adapt to one handed typing after spending so much time with standard keyboards |
| 09:55.12 | mrkiko | aahah... |
| 09:55.16 | mrkiko | thinks the same |
| 09:55.46 | ndnihil | the USB version looks to be $140 USD |
| 09:55.59 | ndnihil | for a phone though bluetooth would be better I'd think |
| 09:57.07 | ndnihil | heck, bluetooth keyboard and bluetooth earpiece, and you could just leave the phone in your pocket |
| 09:57.19 | ndnihil | turn the display off to save battery |
| 09:57.41 | ndnihil | s/save/conserve/ |
| 09:57.46 | ndnihil | stabs apt |
| 09:57.54 | mrkiko | :) |
| 09:58.47 | mrkiko | mhm... |
| 09:58.56 | mrkiko | I think I will get the hardware... |
| 09:59.03 | mrkiko | then I will try to work on it some way... |
| 09:59.13 | ndnihil | it's a fun little platform |
| 09:59.19 | ndnihil | it has its quirks |
| 09:59.24 | ndnihil | but I like it |
| 09:59.38 | mrkiko | I hope it's possible to interface with the call system and sms one from shell |
| 09:59.57 | ndnihil | yeah, dbus |
| 10:00.36 | mrkiko | ok ok ... Understood |
| 10:00.50 | dos1 | mrkiko: we in SHR even want to be able to have complete UI using CLI ;) |
| 10:00.52 | mrkiko | I worked with dbus since bluez is based on it these days... |
| 10:00.55 | ndnihil | I hope you don't mind python though |
| 10:01.07 | mrkiko | ahaha :) |
| 10:01.07 | ndnihil | I personally can't stand python, but the phone uses it a lot |
| 10:01.11 | mrkiko | good good |
| 10:01.47 | ndnihil | I much perfer perl |
| 10:01.48 | mrkiko | mhm... I also... but I think I will be constricted in learning it some day... |
| 10:01.53 | ndnihil | s/perfer/prefer/ |
| 10:01.59 | ndnihil | stabs apt again |
| 10:02.16 | mrkiko | Aniway... |
| 10:02.54 | mrkiko | How is the phonebook handled circa? |
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| 10:03.03 | mrkiko | Berkeley DB? |
| 10:03.07 | ndnihil | on sim |
| 10:03.25 | ndnihil | I believe you can access that by dbus as well, though I've not tried yet |
| 10:03.34 | mrkiko | ah ... |
| 10:03.56 | mrkiko | Wasn't the SIm format too poor for today's standards? |
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| 10:04.06 | mrkiko | For example I remember th character restrictions... |
| 10:04.20 | ndnihil | not sure, I haven't had any problems |
| 10:05.08 | ndnihil | speaking of, while I have the sim in the brokeberry I should reload my contacts |
| 10:05.14 | raster | ndnihil: you dont put people's full names in there |
| 10:05.24 | raster | nor do u tr and attach multiple numbers to 1 contact |
| 10:05.36 | raster | or also email addresses, real life addresses etc. |
| 10:05.38 | raster | :) |
| 10:05.44 | ndnihil | I do use full names |
| 10:05.59 | ndnihil | company uses BES and it syncs contacts |
| 10:06.43 | raster | on the sim card? |
| 10:06.53 | mrkiko | thinks it's strange |
| 10:06.54 | ndnihil | yep |
| 10:07.09 | ndnihil | when I swapped the sim from the BB to the FR, the contacts showed up |
| 10:07.12 | mrkiko | May be you're using some special flavour of SIm - USIM or so... |
| 10:07.35 | mrkiko | May be the nokia sim handling is broken... |
| 10:07.39 | ndnihil | I since wiped it out messing around with a script |
| 10:07.44 | raster | sim cthats kind of odd |
| 10:08.02 | mrkiko | I induced my E65 rebooting when I tried to read my old sim contacts... |
| 10:08.06 | raster | sim cards normally have a limit of 15 or 16 chars per entry |
| 10:08.06 | ndnihil | it's a standard at&t/cingular 3g fireball |
| 10:08.15 | raster | and 1 entry, 1 number. |
| 10:08.20 | raster | not 1 entry, multiple fields |
| 10:08.31 | ndnihil | I did mostly cdma stuff prior to the FR |
| 10:08.52 | mrkiko | ... oh - the world is complicated some way :) |
| 10:08.54 | ndnihil | some gsm stuff on the girls phone, but nothing too deep (debranding, custom menus and such) |
| 10:09.17 | mrkiko | What do you mean for "girls phones" ? |
| 10:09.23 | ndnihil | my girlfriends phone |
| 10:09.36 | mrkiko | What phone model does your girlfriend have? |
| 10:09.44 | ndnihil | a razr currently |
| 10:09.50 | mrkiko | ah ... |
| 10:10.08 | ndnihil | she started out with some samsung piece of crap, then I got her hooked on motorolas |
| 10:10.17 | ndnihil | got her an l7 for some occasion or another |
| 10:10.27 | ndnihil | modded that and she liked it |
| 10:10.41 | mrkiko | To make the screen reader run on my phone I had to struggle. I had to debrand it changin product codes and so, and also removing an sp-lock because with sp-locks the fw sometimes refuses to run certain system drivers, such as those used by my screen reader... |
| 10:11.10 | ndnihil | closed sucks |
| 10:11.24 | mrkiko | I know... |
| 10:11.24 | ndnihil | that's actually what prompted me to get the freerunner |
| 10:11.33 | ndnihil | I was tired of dealing with p2k |
| 10:11.40 | ndnihil | and zero documentation |
| 10:11.47 | mrkiko | ehehe... |
| 10:11.48 | ndnihil | fucking qualcomm |
| 10:12.18 | mrkiko | I saw a friend of mine paying for talks and then not being able to install it since the phone was refusing the Nuance Communications certs... |
| 10:12.54 | ndnihil | you said you are from italy? |
| 10:13.04 | mrkiko | So I had to "operate" on it - and so on. At the end she was refund ... and I installed on her phone a "modded" copy of talks :) ... |
| 10:13.07 | mrkiko | Yes |
| 10:13.20 | mrkiko | I'm from Italy: TIM, Vodafone and TRE |
| 10:13.23 | mrkiko | (and WIND) |
| 10:13.34 | ndnihil | neat, I've got a gsm module from telit. the gsm-862 I think it is |
| 10:13.52 | ndnihil | my washer/dryer was made there too |
| 10:13.53 | mrkiko | ... |
| 10:14.01 | mrkiko | ahahah |
| 10:14.02 | ndnihil | a malber wd1000 |
| 10:14.28 | ndnihil | now if only I could have a car made there |
| 10:14.36 | ndnihil | had a ducati for a while |
| 10:14.47 | ndnihil | but I think it's time I moved up to a prancing horse or raging bull |
| 10:14.49 | ndnihil | :) |
| 10:15.36 | mrkiko | ahaha |
| 10:17.13 | mrkiko | Aniway - Qualcom is ... the worst... |
| 10:17.18 | ndnihil | indeed |
| 10:17.50 | ndnihil | I bought that telit gsm module because I wanted to combine it with an avr32 SoC and make a linux phone |
| 10:17.54 | ndnihil | then I found the freerunner |
| 10:17.54 | mrkiko | But .. even Nokia are bad people I think. Most of the time a nokia phone takes to boot is to calculate the CRC of the firmware to avoid people trying to modify the certificate system... |
| 10:18.51 | ndnihil | wasteful |
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| 10:23.39 | mrkiko | Oh - how m much Linux and openmoko entusiastics here... |
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| 10:26.59 | Zorkman | what do you mean mrkiko? |
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| 10:35.08 | mrkiko | Zorkman: actally I'm on a LUG... |
| 10:35.19 | mrkiko | *actually* |
| 10:35.51 | mjr | mrkiko, agreed, nokia are asses |
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| 10:39.11 | mrkiko | mjr: :) |
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| 10:40.14 | Zorkman | lug? linux user group? |
| 10:41.31 | mrkiko | YESSSS |
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| 10:42.53 | mjr | mrkiko, (and I'm a Finn, I'm supposed to think they're the greatest thing since sauna ;) |
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| 11:48.18 | dieg | hi all |
| 11:49.27 | dieg | must I ask questions about debian on freerunner here? |
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| 11:51.09 | dieg | I don't know how to enable wifi chip |
| 11:51.27 | dieg | I think I must use frameworkd but I don't know how |
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| 12:00.46 | Defiant- | dieg: with a dbus call. But your distribution might have a nice gui for that |
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| 12:05.56 | dieg | Defiant-, I've found the mdbus command |
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| 12:06.18 | dieg | but it seems that something it's not working |
| 12:06.25 | dieg | debian-gta02:~# mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd |
| 12:06.25 | dieg | Service name not found |
| 12:06.33 | Defiant- | framework running? |
| 12:07.25 | dieg | debian-gta02:~# ps aux | grep frame |
| 12:07.25 | dieg | root 1987 16.0 14.2 25592 17260 ? S 12:05 0:20 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/frameworkd |
| 12:07.46 | Defiant- | aah debian |
| 12:08.23 | Defiant- | try mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/WiFi org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.SetPower 1 |
| 12:08.32 | Defiant- | dieg: or just use o-p-p |
| 12:08.43 | dieg | o-p-p? |
| 12:08.50 | Defiant- | openmoko-panel-plugin |
| 12:09.00 | Defiant- | that thing with the thousand icons in your taskbar |
| 12:09.10 | dieg | I don't want to depend in the UI |
| 12:09.23 | Defiant- | ah ok |
| 12:09.39 | dieg | many thanks |
| 12:09.45 | dieg | many thanks Defiant- |
| 12:09.54 | dieg | now I get the service list :) |
| 12:10.46 | dieg | pefect! wifi enabled :) |
| 12:11.49 | Defiant- | np |
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| 14:03.40 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5095 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/b7840.lib: correct pin numbering of pin 5 |
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| 14:07.12 | F4t | can someone direct me to where i can get help related to moko's kernel panicking when connecting to a windows box? |
| 14:08.18 | lindi- | F4t: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2135 |
| 14:09.12 | F4t | lindi-, do you happen to have a compiled kernel with that patch? |
| 14:11.00 | lindi- | F4t: yep but it has other patches too |
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| 14:12.18 | F4t | lindi-, could you send it? or link me? what other patches? |
| 14:13.43 | lindi- | F4t: unnamed patches that are in development |
| 14:14.21 | F4t | lindi-, i dont mind, just tell me how i get the kernel panic message afterwards :) |
| 14:15.39 | lindi- | F4t: where can i send the 1.4G? ;) |
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| 14:16.31 | F4t | omg... |
| 14:16.39 | F4t | isnt it a compild .bin image of 2 mb? |
| 14:16.43 | F4t | compiled* |
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| 14:17.12 | F4t | just a binary arm4 kernel would suffice :) |
| 14:17.33 | mwester | wonders why F4t doesn't just fetch the uImage file from any of the current distros for the FR |
| 14:17.59 | F4t | because F4t needs http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2135 patch in the kernel |
| 14:18.03 | F4t | :) |
| 14:18.13 | F4t | and because the kernel panics :( |
| 14:18.36 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5096 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/ (STATUS gta02-core-expanded.lib gta02-core.lib): |
| 14:18.36 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Andre reviewed the si1040x. |
| 14:18.36 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Updated compilations for recent fixes. |
| 14:19.37 | lindi- | F4t: my working directory will soon appear at http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/tmp/ -- feel free to use what you want. (per GPL 3a i'm not distributing you only the binary...) |
| 14:21.03 | F4t | lindi-, per GPL 3a, cant you not ditribute everything if i dont want everything? :) |
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| 14:28.35 | F4t | lindi-, could you direct me please to where can i find the built kernel? arch/arm/...? |
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| 14:33.35 | |Marco| | F4t: precompiled? |
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| 14:35.33 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5097 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (15 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:35.33 | CIA-53 | openmoko: More 2442 issues found by Andre: |
| 14:35.33 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - VDDIARM_1 should be VDDIARM |
| 14:35.33 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - rename S3C2442 to SC32442. Samsung use S3C2442 to refer to the CPU |
| 14:35.33 | CIA-53 | openmoko: and SC32442 to refer to the multi-chip package. |
| 14:42.12 | lindi- | F4t: lindi/uImage* |
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| 14:43.21 | lindi- | F4t: you don't need to download that all but i need to accompany binaries always with source |
| 14:52.11 | F4t | lindi- "http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/" doesnt show directory listing :-/ |
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| 15:01.33 | F4t | lindi-, ? |
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| 15:10.40 | lindi- | F4t: lindi/openmoko/tmp/neolinux/lindi |
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| 15:14.16 | F4t | lindi-, thanks |
| 15:14.34 | F4t | how do i see kernel panic's msg, after it does panic? |
| 15:16.40 | lindi- | F4t: run ramconsole-dump |
| 15:17.01 | lindi- | F4t: and pass "panic=20" option to kernel so that it reboots automatically after panic |
| 15:17.16 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1fe97b8d37ae 10/misc-vapi/ (21 files in 2 dirs): misc-vapi: create new project that holds our experimental Vala bindings |
| 15:17.17 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r192232e1155d 10/libfsoframework/ (13 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: remove experimental vapi files, which have been moved to misc-vapi |
| 15:18.20 | F4t | how do i pass panic=20 to kernel? |
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| 15:25.10 | rooly | F4t, its a boot option |
| 15:27.03 | F4t | ok, how do i change qi's boot parameters? |
| 15:27.07 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5098 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/rt9702.lib: nFLG is an open-drain output |
| 15:27.58 | rooly | iunnno |
| 15:28.17 | rooly | i DO know that i'm getting a new FR with android pre-installed |
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| 15:32.44 | lindi- | F4t: append* file |
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| 15:39.00 | F4t | lindi-, nvm, that kernel won't even be recognised as rndis device when plugged in the windows host... |
| 15:41.36 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r70d07dbd99ba 10/libfsotransport/configure.ac: libfsotransport: no longer depend on fsoframework, rather check for the presence of the vapi files |
| 15:44.19 | lindi- | F4t: you did not load the g_ether module? |
| 15:44.45 | F4t | i should load it manually? |
| 15:46.18 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5099 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/rt9711_bd_5.lib: nFLG is Open Drain |
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| 15:46.51 | lindi- | F4t: ? |
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| 15:49.18 | F4t | lindi-, i give up for today... sorry for the trouble, i might get back to it some other day |
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| 17:16.50 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5100 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/ (STATUS gta02-core-expanded.lib gta02-core.lib): review of b7840, emh4, exc24cb102u, fa2012, ht210, r3113d, rt9013, rt9702a, rt9711_bd_5, varistor |
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| 17:29.01 | pandoras_ | wohoo |
| 17:29.02 | pandoras_ | morgen |
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| 17:29.33 | pandoras_ | some german peoples here? |
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| 17:30.50 | pandoras_ | is the freerunner the last OpenMoko? |
| 17:31.12 | pandoras_ | i read the development of GTA03 was canneled |
| 17:31.52 | mjr | They're working on a nonrelated device. If that works out, they may get back to making new phone hardware. |
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| 17:32.40 | pandoras_ | and is aviable soon? |
| 17:32.54 | mjr | no idea |
| 17:33.17 | pandoras_ | i want to buy a OM, but i think its may better to wait on the next Gen |
| 17:33.48 | mjr | oh, the next phone will definitely not come out soon, if ever |
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| 17:34.08 | pandoras_ | ok, :/ then is the freerunner my option |
| 17:34.09 | mjr | the device they're working on now is not a phone |
| 17:34.26 | pandoras_ | GTA02 i come :D |
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| 17:36.48 | pandoras_ | i found the Phone & Accessiors for 419 CHF.- i think that is a good Price |
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| 18:27.42 | thrashold | Strange... The Legend of Kyrandia 1,2 and Monkey Island 1,2 have choppy sound on FR/Debian. The Legend of Kyrandia 3 has perfect audio, with voice overs and everything. The graphics are slow, but I guess that's due to the glamo... |
| 18:29.11 | thrashold | It could be a problem with some timer, affecting MIDI playback. Though I tried Monkey Island 2 with Vorbis audio, and it was still choppy |
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| 19:07.58 | dos1 | some guys with graphic skills here? |
| 19:08.10 | dos1 | SHR need some cool splash screens :) |
| 19:08.33 | Zorkman1 | requirements? |
| 19:09.21 | Zorkman1 | you didnt like my windows one :) |
| 19:10.28 | dos1 | Zorkman1: hehe :D |
| 19:10.40 | dos1 | Zorkman1: well, can we use it without legal problems? |
| 19:10.52 | Zorkman | prolly not :) |
| 19:11.09 | Zorkman | no idea actually |
| 19:11.50 | thrashold | dos1: I'm interested in wasting some in creating art stuff, but are there any requirements on how they should look, as in... |
| 19:12.13 | dos1 | thrashold: 480x640 PNG |
| 19:12.17 | Zorkman | look: good? :) |
| 19:12.29 | dos1 | thrashold: if you want, also second PNG for shutdowning |
| 19:12.40 | dos1 | thrashold: and it should look good :D |
| 19:12.46 | thrashold | dos1: I mean, I sketched some quick in an hour last week http://milko.3mhz.net/temp/shr/ , but I'm out of ideas and I don't know what and how one should look. |
| 19:12.51 | Zorkman | http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00172/hybrid_DW_Sonstiges_172112g.jpg |
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| 19:19.53 | Zorkman | dos1: http://milko.3mhz.net/temp/shr/ is extremely slow... |
| 19:19.55 | thrashold | I mean, you can take some raw data from urandom or /var/log/* and turn it into 480x640 PNG, and under some definition of "good" it will look good |
| 19:20.07 | thrashold | :P |
| 19:20.31 | thrashold | Well, at least the kernel and /var/log sound interesting when you turn them into audio, I haven't tried images |
| 19:20.40 | dos1 | thrashold: nice idea! |
| 19:20.41 | dos1 | :D |
| 19:21.07 | dos1 | i have also idea for splash being screen from running illume D: |
| 19:21.25 | dos1 | "look! my SHR boots in 3 seconds!" |
| 19:21.26 | dos1 | :D |
| 19:21.28 | Q-Master | why is it so slow? |
| 19:21.31 | thrashold | That's a good one |
| 19:21.38 | Zorkman | too bad there is always that blinking cursor |
| 19:21.49 | dos1 | Zorkman: not always... i don't have it :x |
| 19:21.57 | Zorkman | dos1: how??? |
| 19:22.02 | dos1 | Zorkman: i boot from SD card with Qi |
| 19:22.08 | Zorkman | dos1: me too... |
| 19:22.13 | Zorkman | loglevel=0 quit |
| 19:22.19 | Zorkman | *quiet |
| 19:22.30 | Q-Master | hehe |
| 19:22.40 | Zorkman | loglevel=0 quiet splash give me a cursor... |
| 19:22.48 | Q-Master | need to change append-GTA02 file |
| 19:22.53 | Zorkman | maybe should try loglevel=1 ? |
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| 19:23.19 | dos1 | Zorkman: yep, try it |
| 19:23.32 | dos1 | i have "loglevel=1 quiet splash" |
| 19:23.35 | dos1 | as in default image |
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| 19:28.31 | Zorkman | dos1: i have the exact same as you, but i still have the blinking cursor... |
| 19:28.45 | Zorkman | upper left corner, about one cm below top |
| 19:28.50 | dos1 | Zorkman: which kernel? |
| 19:29.01 | Zorkman | shr-unstable, fully upgraded |
| 19:29.09 | dos1 | Zorkman: do you have some kernel messages before splash is displayed? |
| 19:29.13 | dos1 | Zorkman: i don't have any... |
| 19:29.21 | Zorkman | yeah, three or four, about g_ether i think |
| 19:29.39 | Zorkman | setting mac address i think, but not sure |
| 19:29.46 | dos1 | uh |
| 19:29.50 | dos1 | so that should be fixed |
| 19:30.00 | dos1 | mwester: why it that? |
| 19:30.12 | dos1 | mwester: i have my factory partition borked, maybe that's why i don't have that messages |
| 19:34.40 | mwester | cat /proc/cmdline -- see what loglevel is *really* set to. |
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| 19:35.24 | dos1 | loglevel=4 console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 init=/sbin/init ro mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x00040000(qi),0x00040000(depr-ub-env),0x00800000(kernel),0x000a0000(depr),0x00040000(identity-ext2),0x0f6a0000(rootfs) root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=1 loglevel=1 splash quiet |
| 19:35.28 | dos1 | Zorkman: can you also check? |
| 19:38.09 | dos1 | Zorkman: you noob :P |
| 19:38.17 | dos1 | (maybe now you will answer :D) |
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| 19:40.12 | Zorkman | dos1: sorry, was busy |
| 19:40.47 | Zorkman | dos1: loglevel=4 console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 init=/sbin/init ro mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x00040000(qi),0x00040000(depr-ub-env),0x00800000(kernel),0x000a0000(depr),0x00040000(identity-ext2),0x0f6a0000(rootfs) g_ether.dev_addr=00:1F:11:01:08:10 g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11:01:08:11 root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=1 loglevel=1 quiet splash |
| 19:41.27 | dos1 | mwester: so that's not a problem |
| 19:41.34 | dos1 | mwester: that's problem with g_ether |
| 19:45.42 | uzi18 | dos1: :) |
| 19:46.52 | mwester | dos1, there's no problem with g_ether. It uses the standard kernel logging mechansim. |
| 19:47.08 | dos1 | mwester: so why it shows that messages? |
| 19:47.22 | mwester | I'm not psychic. |
| 19:47.28 | dos1 | hehe |
| 19:47.33 | mwester | Try loglevel 0 |
| 19:47.41 | dos1 | mwester: the same |
| 19:48.09 | mwester | What bootloader? |
| 19:49.00 | dos1 | mwester: Qi |
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| 19:49.23 | mwester | And do the messages go away when you boot with uboot? |
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| 19:49.47 | mwester | thinks the problem is related to Qi, and the fact that the loglevel line is repeated twice on the cmdline, which is wrong. |
| 19:50.09 | dos1 | Zorkman: can you try with uboot? |
| 19:50.16 | mwester | Ainulindale had the same problem, and found the issue was related to Qi, IIRC. |
| 19:50.35 | mwester | I don't do Qi. I'm sure it's a marvelous bootloader, but I find uboot to be more useful. |
| 19:54.30 | Zorkman | dos1: i don't have uboot anymore, and flashing requires another machine atm |
| 19:54.38 | dos1 | Zorkman: you have, in NOR :P |
| 19:55.50 | Zorkman | dos1: for that i'll need to repartion SD card (it's now one big ext3) |
| 19:56.47 | Zorkman | anyway, i'll reflash qi when i'm able to |
| 19:57.10 | Zorkman | mwester is right though, why would qi give two times the loglevel? |
| 19:57.24 | dos1 | i think we should compile our Qi with loglevel=1 in sources |
| 19:57.35 | dos1 | and then only increment when needed in append-* file |
| 19:57.52 | dos1 | Zorkman: first is from sources, second is from append-* file |
| 19:58.27 | mwester | Or put NO loglevel in Qi, build the kernel with loglevel=0 for default -- then whatever loglevel you place in the append-* file will be the one used, and will be the only one on the command line. |
| 19:59.09 | fredrin | digg http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_cellphone_running_Paroli_phoneapp |
| 19:59.18 | dos1 | mwester: good one |
| 19:59.33 | dos1 | mwester: can you patch kernel for proper loglevel in SHR? :D |
| 20:00.20 | mwester | I can. But it would need coordination with eveything else, because it would be meaningless unless people flashed a patched Qi. |
| 20:00.58 | dos1 | mwester: we can start provide Qi on our download site |
| 20:01.33 | mwester | I dislike the idea immensly. |
| 20:01.37 | mwester | +s |
| 20:01.52 | fredrin | i like it... |
| 20:01.55 | mwester | Distros should not require custom bootloaders. |
| 20:01.57 | mwester | Ever. |
| 20:02.08 | dos1 | not custom |
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| 20:02.15 | dos1 | that patch should be mainstream |
| 20:02.26 | fredrin | it's just practical |
| 20:02.38 | dos1 | and just notice: "if you want nice splash screen, upgrade your Qi" :P |
| 20:02.44 | Zorkman | i don't see why qi should provide a loglevel... every distro can choose what it wants |
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| 20:02.47 | mwester | Qi needs to be updated centrally, and when that happens, we can customize the kernel. Until that happens, we should leave the loglevel situation alone, or recommend the use of uboot. |
| 20:03.15 | fredrin | mwester: who needs to be poked for that to happen? |
| 20:03.18 | mwester | Frankly, the outstanding issue with the WSOD only happens with Qi as well. |
| 20:03.18 | dos1 | where i should send Qi patches? |
| 20:03.28 | mwester | Qi patches go to the kernel ML. |
| 20:03.33 | dos1 | ok |
| 20:03.42 | dos1 | doesn't have WSODs at all |
| 20:03.54 | fredrin | but wasn't it Andy that worked with Qi and now he don't anymore? |
| 20:03.59 | mwester | I vote we just encourage users to _not_ use Qi, and provide some specific instructions on how to set up uboot to boot with proper command line options. |
| 20:04.13 | mwester | Yes, Andy was doing Qi and still is. |
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| 20:04.44 | fredrin | poke andy |
| 20:05.31 | mwester | If someone wants to check, perhaps they can figure out what the rules are for multiple command line options. Perhaps the last one _does_ take precedence, and there is something else wrong. Doesn't the append-* file require an extra character with Qi? |
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| 20:14.13 | dos1 | mwester: i've just made a patch |
| 20:14.18 | dos1 | mwester: sending it to kernel ml now |
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| 20:16.17 | kernel_panic | hi |
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| 20:20.28 | dos1 | mwester: sent |
| 20:21.49 | dos1 | mwester: so now bug someone to commit it :D |
| 20:29.20 | mihairu | hi i have problem with shr-unstable. when i want to start duke3d or opendoom, a scrren turns to yellow and without response |
| 20:29.47 | Zorkman | mihairu: known problem |
| 20:30.10 | Zorkman | http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/426 |
| 20:30.28 | Zorkman | mihairu: there was a workaround... |
| 20:30.50 | mihairu | Zorkman: oh ok thx |
| 20:34.07 | mihairu | Zorkman: and where i can find a workaround?:) |
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| 20:36.07 | Zorkman | mihairu: trying to remember... |
| 20:36.31 | Zorkman | mihairu: try to echo qvga-normal > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state before booting duke3d |
| 20:36.39 | Zorkman | to restore echo normal > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state |
| 20:36.47 | mihairu | ok |
| 20:36.47 | Zorkman | i think that used to do the trick |
| 20:36.50 | Zorkman | not sure though |
| 20:37.05 | dos1 | mihairu, Zorkman: i can confirm :) |
| 20:38.43 | Zorkman | we're not hearing from mihairu; so i guess he's been shot down by aliens and on top of a building and trying to move with the accelerometers :) |
| 20:40.12 | Zorkman | or he doesn't have a hardware keyboard connected to his Fr or something like x11vnc; and he's still typing the command in on the terminal, franticly swiping right-to-left a thousand times : |
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| 20:45.14 | mihairu | yeah i am on fr but i copy-paste to script, but it doesnt work well. i have a sreen of doom at bottom-right with mesy colors and i can see a half of game screen |
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| 20:47.08 | mihairu | and what rendering should i use? software, software16 or xrender |
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| 21:56.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5101 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/ (STATUS sc32442.lib): |
| 21:56.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Andre found a lot more table 1-1 victims: |
| 21:56.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - VD16/GPD8/SPIMOSI1 is actually MISO (!!!) |
| 21:56.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - UCLK/GPH8 is called UEXTCLK everywhere but in table 1-1 |
| 21:56.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - GPC[5:7] should be LCD_LPCOE, LCD_LPCREV, LCD_LPCREVB, not LCDVF[0:2] |
| 21:56.30 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Updated components/STATUS to indicate that neither of us is finished with |
| 21:56.34 | CIA-53 | openmoko: the sc32442 yet. |
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