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| 01:37.04 | slaxxer | rooly sell me on a pre |
| 01:37.23 | rooly | okay... |
| 01:37.24 | rooly | lets see |
| 01:37.34 | slaxxer | os? |
| 01:37.50 | rooly | linux-based |
| 01:37.53 | rooly | dubbed webOS |
| 01:37.53 | slaxxer | vertical slider |
| 01:38.12 | slaxxer | gps? |
| 01:38.39 | rooly | vertical sliding, horizontal sliding, capacitive touchscreen, full qwerty keyboard, triangulated gps (afaik) cdma for now, ... |
| 01:38.51 | rooly | no, sorry, no horizontal |
| 01:38.52 | rooly | anyway |
| 01:38.58 | slaxxer | wifi to i guess |
| 01:38.59 | rooly | 3.5Mp camera |
| 01:39.18 | slaxxer | locked? |
| 01:39.39 | rooly | wifi, accellerometer, 1150mw battery, roughly 3/4 of a day of HEAVY usage on it |
| 01:40.01 | rooly | locked to sprint for now, it is cdma after all, not the easiest thing to swap over to another carrier |
| 01:40.08 | slaxxer | wheres the apps come from or are they addable? |
| 01:40.28 | rooly | apps come from a download store, similar to the iphone, but actually thought out |
| 01:40.54 | rooly | for the time being, apps don't have much in the way of intensive gaming due to the OS |
| 01:41.24 | rooly | hows this one, slaxxer: facebook, aim, google, all directly integrated into the PIM |
| 01:42.00 | rooly | music downloading straight from the phone, direct syncing with itunes |
| 01:42.13 | rooly | beautiful beautiful visuals too |
| 01:42.26 | rooly | i was sold simply on the view of the dialer |
| 01:43.01 | rooly | notifications are similar to OM2007.x |
| 01:43.22 | rooly | here's a neat one |
| 01:43.54 | rooly | the capacitive touchscreen actually extends a bit beyond the view to the bottom of the phone's upper lib, and gives you room for gesture based controls |
| 01:44.01 | rooly | multitouch |
| 01:44.52 | rooly | the hardware and software are simply beautiful |
| 01:45.02 | rooly | and from everything i read, its intensely intuitive |
| 01:45.33 | rooly | PLUS, it has a PalmOS emulator you can install to run all your legacy apps as wel |
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| 01:46.49 | rooly | the browser is webkit-based, and loads a bit faster than on competing phones using equivalent networks |
| 01:47.31 | rooly | webOS makes near-perfect use of transparency in it's controls |
| 01:48.15 | rooly | think of IE to iPhone vs Prism to Pre |
| 01:48.26 | rooly | in web-rendering |
| 01:48.36 | rooly | you get the entire screen real-estate to do you work |
| 01:49.42 | rooly | there is built-in backup of your entire tele-profile, almost all your settings, apps, networks, contacts, etc to an integrated server |
| 01:50.29 | rooly | SMS and IM for multiple protocols are integrated seamlessly into it's chat interface |
| 01:52.30 | rooly | have i sold it to you yet? |
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| 01:55.51 | rooly | whats wrong, slaxxer |
| 01:56.32 | rooly | slaxxer: i'll put it this way: engadget is well known as being full of Apple fanboys. |
| 01:57.21 | rooly | even these guys are saying the Pre is in ways better than the iPhone or the G1 |
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| 02:20.31 | fredrin | wtf is Pre? |
| 02:20.52 | fredrin | url? |
| 02:21.53 | rooly | fredrin: you mean that for the past 2 years you have been oblivious to the efforts of the Palm team, the first smartphone makers, to create the latest and greatest device ever, and name it the Palm Pre |
| 02:22.11 | rooly | not to mention it uses a linux-based OS at it's core |
| 02:22.21 | fredrin | yes..... i got stuck in the mokomatrix |
| 02:23.09 | rooly | frankly, i don't care what anyone says, OM shoulda stuck with 2007.x's system |
| 02:23.30 | rooly | if they would have simply pulled out PulseAudio, there would have been no problem at all with the phone |
| 02:24.19 | rooly | i mean, granted minor tweaks were necessary, but not a whole freakin rewrite of the OS...3 times |
| 02:24.39 | rooly | 2007.x was the best OM interface to date |
| 02:24.46 | rooly | it was a smartphone |
| 02:24.52 | fredrin | maybe, i just wanted to have a good phone |
| 02:25.28 | rooly | 2008.x, FSO, Paroli, etc... |
| 02:25.34 | rooly | just don't cut it for phone usage |
| 02:25.43 | rooly | they ignore the most important aspect of the device |
| 02:25.55 | fredrin | like i've always been frustrated by the phone and sms things in all the phones i've head, nokia 3110, 6110, Simens S65, nokia 6600, |
| 02:26.15 | fredrin | but now how things are going i think things are going in the right way |
| 02:27.03 | fredrin | shr and paroli are starting to be come good phones now |
| 02:27.24 | arg0 | rooly, http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Screenshots |
| 02:28.09 | fredrin | i guess the best disto will have the best comunity |
| 02:28.45 | fredrin | gah, compiz crashed on me, no window manager, so much for 'from freedom came elegance' linux mint |
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| 02:29.11 | mwester | compiz... |
| 02:29.26 | fredrin | what's the name now, fusion? |
| 02:29.32 | mwester | a plaything, created to compete with vista |
| 02:29.47 | mwester | It's not serious, and has little real purpose. Disable it. |
| 02:29.48 | fredrin | it got some usefull things |
| 02:30.27 | mwester | such as? |
| 02:30.32 | mwester | wobbly windows? |
| 02:30.38 | fredrin | but the bling is just for impressing girls |
| 02:30.53 | mwester | it's all bling. And it doesn't impress girls, just geeks. |
| 02:30.59 | fredrin | window preview, true transparant, love trasparant terminal and browser under |
| 02:31.15 | mwester | You don't need compiz for that. |
| 02:31.36 | fredrin | mwester: dont underestimate drawing fire on the sreen and then make it rain with some music |
| 02:31.51 | mwester | But to the point, it's that sort of useless "bling" that started the demise of Openmoko. |
| 02:32.16 | fredrin | maybe |
| 02:32.34 | rooly | agrees |
| 02:32.56 | rooly | anywho, mwester. whadaya think about the pre |
| 02:33.06 | mwester | love it. |
| 02:33.13 | mwester | but too late. |
| 02:33.20 | mwester | Sprint? Come on! |
| 02:33.20 | fredrin | goes googleing |
| 02:33.37 | rooly | (mind you this wouldn't be a certain project lead would have not been such a prick about python and qt) |
| 02:33.57 | rooly | ...*wouldn't be an issue* |
| 02:34.48 | rooly | mwester: sprint really has the best deal around |
| 02:35.03 | rooly | 100$ flat rate for unlimited everything, except ...tethering... |
| 02:35.15 | mwester | Sprint is an arrogant company when it comes to sales and service, and their network sucks. |
| 02:35.27 | rooly | and when you have as much screen space and usefulness as something like the pre offers, you don't need tethering |
| 02:35.38 | mwester | No, but you need a signal. |
| 02:35.43 | rooly | lol, yeah |
| 02:36.29 | rooly | however, other providers are going to get their hands on a pre in the next several months |
| 02:36.29 | rooly | word is at&t and verizon are both set to get a copy |
| 02:36.51 | rooly | seems to me that their radio is interchangeble to a degree |
| 02:36.52 | mwester | Like I said, too late. T-Mobile is racing with the G1 and Android, and AT&T is married to the iPhone. Neither will let the pre be anything other than a second-class phone in their marketing. |
| 02:37.15 | rooly | (G2 now) |
| 02:37.51 | mwester | Verizon is probably one of the winners in the CDMA market, but that's pretty much North America only. That's not going to attract the developers I would want it to. |
| 02:37.57 | rooly | personally, i can see myself switching to spring simply for access to the pre |
| 02:38.05 | rooly | *sprint |
| 02:38.15 | rooly | but i'm gonna wait it out for a gsm version |
| 02:38.24 | mwester | I gave away a $350 phone just to dump Sprint. |
| 02:38.39 | rooly | ic |
| 02:38.51 | fredrin | are all these phones imposible to unblock? |
| 02:38.57 | rooly | unlock you mean? |
| 02:39.05 | rooly | no, not impossible, but definitely impractical |
| 02:39.16 | fredrin | yeah |
| 02:39.19 | mwester | With CDMA it's not a matter of unlocking. |
| 02:39.29 | fredrin | how does it work if you take them to south america, and use chips here |
| 02:39.53 | fredrin | CDMA is another thing yes |
| 02:39.57 | mwester | CDMA phones don't work anywhere except the US and Canada. |
| 02:39.58 | fredrin | US thing |
| 02:40.06 | fredrin | k |
| 02:40.31 | rooly | mwester: i'm sure sprint paid out the ass to get access to the pre for release |
| 02:40.42 | mwester | Yeah, they're dying. |
| 02:41.25 | rooly | honestly, the Pre sans the glamour is what i saw the FR as being when i got it |
| 02:41.29 | mwester | Last "big thing" they had was the purchase of Nextel: the walkie-talkie. I thought walkie-talkies became kid's toys decades ago! |
| 02:41.54 | fredrin | mwester: it's big in south america |
| 02:42.18 | mwester | heh! I just hoped the FR would have the core OS support that the Android G1 and the Pre have... I didn't even expect the flashy GUI. |
| 02:42.35 | fredrin | yeah |
| 02:43.09 | mwester | fredrin, here they advertise it as a construction workers phone - that sort of thing. They miss the entire business market, and that's where the money is. |
| 02:43.30 | rooly | is just sad that he won't be able to get a pre on launch |
| 02:43.42 | fredrin | wow, lol unempoyed construction workers |
| 02:43.52 | rooly | palm should have definitely gone gsm on that one |
| 02:43.58 | rooly | but they needed a major carrier |
| 02:44.07 | mwester | Probably fewer unemployed construction workers right now than unemployed business people... |
| 02:44.18 | rooly | can vouch...he has a job |
| 02:44.24 | fredrin | true, now |
| 02:44.36 | mwester | rooly, yep - without a carrier you're sunk -- and palm was too late to the game on that one. |
| 02:44.47 | mwester | doesn't have a job. |
| 02:45.12 | fredrin | but the housing boom is over, i guess illegal mexicans construction workers dont count it the statistics, |
| 02:45.14 | rooly | mwester: i think they can pull it off, personally. that chance isn't too hard of a reach if its done right |
| 02:45.25 | fredrin | it is unemployed right now.... |
| 02:45.55 | rooly | oil field is where the money is |
| 02:45.57 | rooly | plain and simple |
| 02:46.35 | mwester | rooly, depends on their expectations for the phone, I guess. If they are patient, I agree that they can do it. Palm is still well-regarded in businesses, so it will probably be considered (along with the blackberry) by many corporations. |
| 02:46.37 | rooly | and don't unionize, cause the companies that hire find you nothing more than a pansy-ass lazy bitch if your in a union |
| 02:47.11 | mwester | is waaaay too old to work in the oil fields. |
| 02:47.14 | rooly | mwester: it helps alot the inclusion of the palm emulator |
| 02:47.22 | mwester | yep |
| 02:47.26 | rooly | mwester: you'd be suprised at what kind of jobs are available |
| 02:47.52 | rooly | anywho |
| 02:47.58 | mwester | I am surprised. Actually, horrified. |
| 02:47.58 | rooly | so hackable 1 eh? |
| 02:48.01 | fredrin | good money in phone business too, or it will go down, i guess people wont buy so many new phones, but people will use money on calling minutes |
| 02:48.38 | rooly | your actually, right. there's alot of money working for telco's too |
| 02:48.59 | rooly | ...since...ya know...the government practically pays them to sit on their ass... |
| 02:49.23 | fredrin | yeah, the old state telecoms |
| 02:49.28 | fredrin | but the new ones are nice |
| 02:51.23 | fredrin | norway got like 20 virtual telecoms |
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| 04:00.14 | slaxxer | thank u rooly |
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| 07:43.49 | dehqan | Hi 2 all ,How can i find if some had sent sms in persian language on FR ?is it possible? |
| 07:45.07 | PaulFertser | dehqan: RTL is implemented in SHR distro, both to view and to type. There's arabic illume keyboard. |
| 07:45.26 | PaulFertser | dehqan: you might want to ask TAsn about the details. |
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| 08:03.36 | Hopscotc1 | good morning |
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| 08:10.22 | dehqan | good morning too ... |
| 08:10.37 | dehqan | tanx paul where is tasn ? |
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| 08:11.14 | dehqan | if there is arabic so not a big problem ... |
| 08:14.16 | raster | PaulFertser: you patched upstream? |
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| 08:14.48 | dehqan | is qemu just for GTA01 ? |
| 08:15.25 | dehqan | no found .. |
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| 08:21.24 | dehqan | in wiki has been said > If you want a fully functional smart phone, then download the Qtopia distribution |
| 08:21.36 | dehqan | is it right ? |
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| 08:42.47 | beer_ | yes it is right |
| 08:43.01 | beer_ | SHR is nearly there but only nearly |
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| 11:37.52 | badcloud_ | question: I ran 'mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrievePhonebo |
| 11:37.55 | badcloud_ | ok 'contacts' > /media/mmcblk0p2/addressbook1.vcf' |
| 11:38.02 | badcloud_ | (one string) |
| 11:38.06 | badcloud_ | under shr |
| 11:38.34 | badcloud_ | is there some way to convert that file to vcard format? |
| 11:38.49 | badcloud_ | or, naive question, is it already in vcf format |
| 11:39.23 | DocScrutinizer | moooorning |
| 11:39.45 | badcloud_ | what's up Doc? |
| 11:39.56 | badcloud_ | asked, nibbling a carrot |
| 11:40.20 | DocScrutinizer | a rabit, a rabit.... *PAFF* |
| 11:40.39 | badloud | dat's all, folkths |
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| 11:42.10 | DocScrutinizer | backscroll shows you didn't really succeed in your yesterdays poll about % of lost phonecalls ;-D |
| 11:42.43 | DocScrutinizer | (initiated by dehqan) |
| 11:42.47 | badloud | I don't think I participated |
| 11:43.19 | badloud | who won? |
| 11:43.57 | DocScrutinizer | wonders whether you might get shot immediately by revolutionary guards in Iran, when busted with a FR on you ;-) |
| 11:44.34 | badloud | ha |
| 11:44.43 | badloud | *confused* |
| 11:44.50 | DocScrutinizer | well probably sharia requests lobotomy for such a crime |
| 11:45.51 | badloud | hell, being an end user is punishment enough at times |
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| 11:46.11 | badloud | when they find out I scoured all the forums and chats in order to delete all sms's |
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| 11:46.14 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-06-04 21:44:16] <dehqan> tanx paul but you mean OM has many bugs ? |
| 11:46.14 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-06-04 21:44:37] <dehqan> so can not we use qtopia or other os instead of that ? |
| 11:46.14 | badloud | they'll make me their new leader |
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| 11:47.02 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 11:47.21 | badloud | Doc, you saavy on my question? |
| 11:47.26 | DocScrutinizer | reflash! might (or might not ;) help for deleting SMS |
| 11:47.47 | badloud | it won't, since they're stored on the sim |
| 11:48.12 | badloud | I remember someone giving me an mdbus command that I copied into a script |
| 11:48.15 | badloud | but I lost that |
| 11:48.16 | DocScrutinizer | Heard this might change eventually :-D |
| 11:48.49 | badloud | how 'bout it though, Doc. shr sim contacts to vcf? |
| 11:48.52 | DocScrutinizer | badloud: actualy deleting single SMS is easy |
| 11:49.05 | badloud | single, yes |
| 11:49.44 | DocScrutinizer | it's a matter of fact even a lot of nokia phones do not support SMS bulk delete |
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| 11:50.10 | DocScrutinizer | so be happy with your dbus script ;-> |
| 11:50.23 | badloud | I lost the bugger |
| 11:51.12 | DocScrutinizer | badloud: take spank for not putting it to wiki immediately |
| 11:51.18 | badloud | but forget sms's for a sec. in shr, sim contacts--->vcf=? |
| 11:51.40 | badloud | any idea? |
| 11:51.41 | DocScrutinizer | ask dos1 iirc |
| 11:51.50 | badloud | thanks man |
| 11:52.00 | DocScrutinizer | not vcf, ut csv at least |
| 11:52.45 | DocScrutinizer | also I heard about at least 3 concurrent efforts to write scripts to do exactly that |
| 11:53.07 | DocScrutinizer | badloud: U should ask in #*cdevel |
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| 11:54.25 | DocScrutinizer | makes a note to his todo list, to check whom to spank this time for not putting that on wiki ;-D |
| 11:55.18 | badloud | Doc, what's the channel name?? |
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| 11:55.39 | DocScrutinizer | #openmoko-cdevel |
| 11:55.41 | DocScrutinizer | please read topic first ;) |
| 11:55.57 | badloud | thanks |
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| 13:15.11 | wizkoder | What exactely did change in openmoko now? Just read the developers got fired? |
| 13:17.40 | wizkoder | guess nobody's here anymore ;-) |
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| 13:22.33 | DocScrutinizer | wizkoder: hmmm, what's your question? |
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| 13:29.59 | wizkoder | are there enough developers that the project will continue without commercial support?# |
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| 13:31.16 | rhkfin | anyone noticed that openBmap fails at OM2009. No messages, it just won't start. Illume saves a log with 'An exit code of 1 was returned from openBmapGTK' |
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| 14:44.27 | DocScrutinizer | wonders if wizkoder realized OM (the kernel + distro) is a FOSS project at last |
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| 14:46.02 | thrashold | Who/what is wizkoder? |
| 14:46.05 | SpeedEvil | wishes for GSM source too. |
| 14:46.21 | SpeedEvil | And gllin. |
| 14:46.48 | DocScrutinizer | thrashold: dunno, see backscroll |
| 14:47.07 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: won't happen |
| 14:47.16 | thrashold | Wasn't there an effort to reverse engineer gllin? |
| 14:47.28 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: I know |
| 14:47.33 | SpeedEvil | thrashold: yes |
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| 14:47.50 | SpeedEvil | thrashold: it stalled after it was revealed it wouldn't be in GTA02 |
| 14:48.46 | SpeedEvil | At that point, we could detect satellites, and their rough velocities - enough to get a +-1000Km or so position in half an hour. Maybe a bit better |
| 14:49.18 | SpeedEvil | Which - you have to be _really_ lost to find useful. |
| 14:49.20 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: not even OM has GSM complete sources. And DSP source is in calypso rom only... :-/ |
| 14:49.42 | SpeedEvil | I know |
| 14:49.55 | thrashold | At least you would know on which continent you are. |
| 14:50.04 | DocScrutinizer | for gllin I don't know actual state |
| 14:50.52 | SpeedEvil | It was my understanding that there was source - but a portion of the code at least was a binary |
| 14:51.34 | DocScrutinizer | usual linux proprietary driver model then |
| 14:52.30 | DocScrutinizer | so for gllin same applies as does for GSM |
| 14:52.49 | SpeedEvil | Yeah |
| 14:53.19 | SpeedEvil | It was a guess at teh time that the project stalled (due to above announce) that we were maybe 2-3 months off a basic position. |
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| 15:23.45 | slaxxer | why is there not a link on the pages of the wiki to translate back an forth since the planet has of late been dominated by our french brothers |
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| 15:24.59 | slaxxer | not everybody has Konqueror |
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| 15:28.59 | DocScrutinizer | and the ones that have and don't use FF are really angry whenever they find those nasty freakin f*ckng nabble references. PLEASE USE pipermail to quote ML! |
| 15:29.25 | Blu3 | ? |
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| 15:31.26 | DocScrutinizer | Blu3: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM_buzz |
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| 15:34.46 | Blu3 | ic |
| 15:35.03 | Blu3 | yes, i'm often annoyed by the lack of navigation on both OM and FSO wikis |
| 15:35.41 | Blu3 | from my perspective they appear to be simple websites with almost nothing on them because there are few if any links |
| 15:36.08 | Blu3 | as for the nabble links on here, i thought it was a blank page. i don't run javascript by default |
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| 15:36.25 | Blu3 | and when i enabled it just now, it's a broken load |
| 15:36.38 | Blu3 | it is trying to load nabble.comnull/.... |
| 15:36.43 | Blu3 | which obviously isn't going to resolve |
| 15:45.40 | DocScrutinizer | exactly. nabble is crap |
| 15:46.29 | DocScrutinizer | it's kinda offense to use it for referencing ML in wiki |
| 15:49.50 | SpeedEvil | The fundamental problem with the wiki is it needs someone to spend maybe 500 hours organising it. |
| 15:50.07 | SpeedEvil | and correcting it |
| 15:50.17 | Blu3 | that's an understatement :/ |
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| 15:59.05 | PBeck | hi |
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| 16:05.22 | DocScrutinizer | make that 1000h, and the poor fella doing this tedious job has to have a very good knowledge of all aspects of FR as well, to be able to tell obsolete stuff from correct one, or at least to know whom to ask and how to ask to get an answer at all |
| 16:05.35 | nullix | hello |
| 16:05.41 | nullix | alphaone: ping |
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| 16:53.21 | Think-Free | Hi ! I've installed Hackable1 on a sd card with one ext2 partition. I boot it with Qi ... I've done some modification and I want to make an image of this sd to redistribute it ... Any idea how can I do this ? |
| 16:56.09 | Blu3 | tar? |
| 16:57.18 | Think-Free | Blu3 : I've tried but it doesn't work, it seem that dev node or somethink like this is falling ... but it's difficult to debug the boot process |
| 16:57.51 | Blu3 | put your sdcard in your desktop and handle it |
| 16:57.59 | Blu3 | it'll be much faster as well |
| 16:59.07 | Think-Free | If I just make a tar of the entire content of the sd card on my desktop and put it on an other, I could work ? |
| 17:00.14 | Blu3 | if it's the same size |
| 17:00.27 | Blu3 | otherwise your partition table will be off |
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| 17:01.01 | Blu3 | make a tarball of each SD partition |
| 17:01.09 | Blu3 | assuming you have >1 |
| 17:01.14 | Think-Free | I have only one partition |
| 17:01.23 | Blu3 | otherwise a plain tarball will be fine |
| 17:01.44 | Think-Free | but I want to be able to install the content on any size sdcard |
| 17:02.10 | Blu3 | just tell your downloaders to make the appropriate partitions and untar your tbz2 file onto the root partition |
| 17:02.59 | Think-Free | ok, I'll try it, thanks |
| 17:03.11 | Blu3 | y/w |
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| 17:12.29 | Guest67950 | is there a nice way to sync my qtopia with my contacts in konact? |
| 17:13.15 | beer__ | or for that matter beteween shr and kontact? |
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| 17:15.28 | Blu3 | i've no idea |
| 17:15.50 | beer__ | at least we are 2 then |
| 17:16.16 | beer__ | sometimes I think I am one of the few that actual use my freerunner as phone |
| 17:16.26 | lindi- | beer__: heh :) |
| 17:16.45 | Blu3 | i use it daily as a phone |
| 17:16.48 | lindi- | Think-Free: are you shipping source code too? |
| 17:16.52 | Blu3 | mainly for text messaging tho |
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| 17:21.02 | Think-Free | lindi- : yes, I'm the author of GorshPlayer and Qalee ... |
| 17:23.29 | badcloud | I use it as my daily phone too |
| 17:24.51 | Think-Free | lindi- : http://think-free.homelinux.org/wordpress |
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| 17:47.12 | Think-Free | bye ;) |
| 17:47.26 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5089 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add Rene's WLAN connector header and socket |
| 17:49.59 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5090 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (AUTHORS components/td028ttec1.lib gta02-core.pro): Add Rene's LCD connector FH23-39S-03SHW for TD028TTEC1 module |
| 17:54.15 | DocScrutinizer | no "nice" way yet to sync to Kontact. opimd is missing vcard backend I'd say. Probably it's possible to setup a mdbus based script to convert the kontact(s) to opimd calls to create new contacts, and vice versa |
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| 17:55.54 | DocScrutinizer | having a look into how to build kitchensync plugins might be worth it |
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| 17:58.31 | gk | hello, is there anywhere doc about differences between A6 and A7? |
| 17:59.17 | Defiant | gk: check the community ML for that |
| 17:59.25 | Defiant | I saw a thread there for that |
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| 18:00.11 | gk | Dunedan: current month or older? |
| 18:00.21 | Defiant | last 2 days |
| 18:00.23 | Dunedan | ... |
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| 18:00.43 | Defiant | But iirc the answer was "buzzed fixed" |
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| 18:01.45 | gk | ok, thanks! |
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| 19:04.28 | fredrin | hai gais |
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| 19:04.48 | Zorkman | llo |
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| 19:17.08 | Blu3 | 'lo fredrin |
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| 19:39.07 | mwester | what's a "gais" |
| 19:39.08 | mwester | ? |
| 19:39.22 | Zorkman | guys |
| 19:39.45 | Zorkman | unless he meant gays, but i doubt it, everyone knows FR-users are babe-magnets |
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| 19:41.40 | MHazem | LOL |
| 19:42.52 | kirun | yeah, especially if you show them OpenMiaoCat ... teh ladies love that |
| 19:44.03 | Mononoke | miaow |
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| 19:44.40 | Zorkman | don't forget openvibe.... |
| 19:45.51 | kirun | of course, what would work even better is a wolf shirt with a FR-sized phone pocket |
| 19:53.26 | fredrin | mwester: myspace speak |
| 19:53.28 | Blu3 | zorkman, really? |
| 19:53.48 | mwester | babe-magnets? :-D |
| 19:53.54 | fredrin | Zorkman: lol |
| 19:54.07 | Blu3 | doesn't quite get into that .. babe thing |
| 19:54.49 | mwester | is too old for that... "babe-watching" looses its appeal when the girls are younger than one's own kids. :P |
| 19:54.50 | fredrin | Blu3: why? |
| 19:55.04 | Blu3 | because i like guys |
| 19:55.31 | Zorkman | Blu3, then you're in the right channel, prolly 100% male :D |
| 19:55.40 | Blu3 | ;) |
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| 19:55.57 | slaxxer | a galactic lady is what a man wants |
| 19:56.14 | Zorkman | lol, gonna google "galactic lady" |
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| 19:56.40 | Zorkman | http://www.iainclaridge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/virgin_galactic.jpg |
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| 21:13.56 | DocScrutinizer | zorkthink you're wrong on that 100% thing |
| 21:14.33 | DocScrutinizer | fsck, he's offline. Pah, chicken ;-) |
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| 21:19.43 | DocScrutinizer | zzzZzorkman: ^^ |
| 21:24.43 | Blu3 | heheh |
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| 23:36.19 | daniel_li | Which type of BT device does FR supported? |
| 23:38.00 | lindi- | daniel_li: ? |
| 23:38.17 | SpeedEvil | daniel_li: All of them! |
| 23:38.46 | SpeedEvil | Of course, the hard part is the software isn't up to what the hardware can do yet. |
| 23:39.57 | daniel_li | Humm... So I wanna a know working hardware type |
| 23:40.27 | SpeedEvil | I've used it with a external GPS before - nothing else. |
| 23:40.51 | daniel_li | I don't wanna buy a issue BT device, then wait for the community to develop the software. I hope |
| 23:41.46 | SpeedEvil | I haven't been tracking exactly what works - sorry - as I've been involved in other things for a bit. #openmoko-cdevel may have some other people awake |
| 23:41.51 | daniel_li | Is there anyone use BT device with FR, Can u share the type of device with us? So I can buy it |
| 23:42.34 | daniel_li | without much trouble for software issues. |
| 23:43.17 | SpeedEvil | do you mean a headset? |
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| 23:43.35 | daniel_li | <SpeedEvil> do you mean a headset? --> Yes\ |
| 23:43.53 | daniel_li | without wire, bluetooth :) |
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| 23:44.35 | SpeedEvil | There are about a dozen sorts of things that can be attached by bluetooth - not only headsets. hangon |
| 23:45.35 | daniel_li | <SpeedEvil>: Oh, You are right ;) I wanna buy bluetooth headset :) |
| 23:46.37 | SpeedEvil | I see nothing on the wiki indicating it works - and I don't recall any mention here of 'yes, it's easy'. |
| 23:46.47 | SpeedEvil | check in the #openmoko-cdevel |
| 23:47.06 | SpeedEvil | What the hardware supports - and what the software does is very different. |
| 23:49.09 | daniel_li | OK, I checkin openmoko-cdevel and propose the question, hope there is an answer |
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