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| 03:15.56 | linuxxr | http://pastebin.com/m5bd29007 |
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| 03:16.15 | linuxxr | oemerge gives a little |
| 03:20.56 | linuxxr | can ya feel the SHRness |
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| 03:57.22 | mwester | opkg upgrade is still not supported. |
| 03:57.52 | mwester | Need to wait until a release for that, and even then only from the release repo, not from unstable or oemerge. |
| 04:03.53 | doc|work | why's that? (if you don't mind me asking) |
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| 04:19.21 | mwester | too difficult to make sure that all the dependencies, "replaces", "replaced-by" fields are set corrrectly -- much time would be spent on testing upgrades instead of developing. |
| 04:20.52 | lindi- | debian has piuparts that can do that helps in testing such stuff |
| 04:21.08 | lindi- | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.11 | mwester | I'm sure that there are a vast number of tools that can _help_. |
| 04:21.26 | mwester | The problem is that all of them require a person to do at least _something_ |
| 04:21.50 | mwester | And up to now, there is nobody who has stepped up to say that they would be willing to be in charge of such a thing. |
| 04:22.47 | Blu3 | how are the developers updating things? |
| 04:23.41 | mwester | the devs are doing it primarily by hand (i.e. a specific package gets updated which they are working on, thus they know what dependencies it has, and what can be forced or ignored). |
| 04:23.53 | mwester | And lots of reflashes as well. |
| 04:24.58 | Blu3 | how are we supposed to update things in between releases? like ophonekitd for example, which is quite crashy |
| 04:26.40 | mwester | anyway that works for you... okg upgrade is not supported -- but that doesn't mean that upgrading a single package may not work, or even that opkg upgrade may not sometimes work. Just that the devs have not spent any time at all to ensure that it DOES work all the time. |
| 04:27.06 | Blu3 | i thought that was already an established given :) |
| 04:27.23 | mwester | Ok. then we're on the same page with all that. |
| 04:27.32 | Blu3 | ok |
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| 04:34.23 | doc|work | mwester: thanks for the answer |
| 04:34.58 | doc|work | does the alarm not work on shr-oemerge? |
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| 04:41.06 | Blu3 | last i recall, alarm broke several weeks back |
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| 05:04.54 | doc|work | Blu3: ok, thanks, good thing I wasn't relying on it :) |
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| 06:50.47 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03heikki.paajanen 07gsmd2 * rc16883a079ae 10/src/sim.c: |
| 06:50.47 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Fixed typo in error message. |
| 06:50.47 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Thanks to David Ford for the patch. |
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| 08:35.30 | rhkfin | Anyone here using a recent SHR and having problems with it not loading all contacts from SIM? |
| 08:38.41 | rhkfin | is told the channel's very quiet. Why's that? Everyone 110% happy with the phone? No-one developing anything? People bored with the current state of the distros? |
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| 08:39.00 | Blu3 | no, i haven't seen this |
| 08:39.10 | rhkfin | Blu3: about how many contacts you have? |
| 08:39.18 | Blu3 | ~40 |
| 08:39.43 | rhkfin | I have 200-250 on OM2009 and some of them fail to load -> trying to find out if it's FSO.. |
| 08:40.35 | Blu3 | set your framework log level to debug and restart it, let things settle down, then run tail -f on the logfile when you open up contacts |
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| 08:42.16 | rhkfin | Having people like Cap_J_L_Picard daMaestro max_posedon Sup3rkiddo transylvania Zorkman SpeedEvil should keep the channel busy, I'm sure none of them's bored but ready for new adventures :) |
| 08:42.25 | rhkfin | Blu3: not a bad idea - how do I do it..? |
| 08:42.58 | Blu3 | edit your /etc/frameworkd.conf file |
| 08:43.05 | Blu3 | change the loglevel to DEBUG |
| 08:43.20 | rhkfin | ok, great |
| 08:43.22 | Blu3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.31 | Blu3 | tail -f /var/log/frameworkd |
| 08:43.35 | vegyraupe | rhkfin: that is default on om2009 |
| 08:43.38 | Blu3 | wait a few minutes for things to settle |
| 08:43.44 | max_posedon | rhkfin, in first which shr you use |
| 08:43.50 | rhkfin | vegyraupe: ah, ok.. Blu3 yes, I'm using OM2009 |
| 08:44.17 | rhkfin | (just thinking if someone has the same with SHR -> then it'd be FSO problem. If not, then maybe Paroli ) |
| 08:44.37 | rhkfin | vegyraupe: and I guess we haven't seen anything in the log..? |
| 08:44.53 | vegyraupe | nope the framework simply doesn't deliver all the contacts |
| 08:44.55 | max_posedon | second, try find'out contact list via mdbus command |
| 08:45.07 | vegyraupe | at least that is what I thougth to have seen |
| 08:45.33 | rhkfin | max_posedon: how do I do it..? |
| 08:47.00 | Blu3 | mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrievePhonebook 'contacts' > backupfile |
| 08:47.24 | Blu3 | how do you know it isn't delivering them? |
| 08:47.43 | vegyraupe | Blu3: because the numbers don't add up |
| 08:47.47 | vegyraupe | we ahve both logs |
| 08:48.01 | vegyraupe | paroli logs the number of contacts received |
| 08:48.12 | vegyraupe | the framework log is less communicative |
| 08:49.26 | rhkfin | vegyraupe: actually I think it now loaded them all: I got 151 contacts |
| 08:49.43 | rhkfin | I'll see what paroli.log tells me how many it was able to load |
| 08:50.14 | rhkfin | vegyraupe: 76 from the SIM -> about half.. |
| 08:51.09 | max_posedon | rhkfin, so this is paroli bug, I suggest ask mirko, when he will be avaible |
| 08:53.34 | vegyraupe | max_posedon: how do you know that it is paroli? |
| 08:53.44 | max_posedon | vegyraupe, easy |
| 08:53.54 | max_posedon | paroli works in top of framework |
| 08:54.08 | rhkfin | max_posedon: let me tell you a funny thing, vegyraupe is mirko :) |
| 08:54.09 | max_posedon | if mdbus commands returns correct |
| 08:54.15 | max_posedon | wow) |
| 08:54.18 | rhkfin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.21 | rhkfin | :) |
| 08:54.36 | vegyraupe | max_posedon: that is a weak test |
| 08:54.45 | max_posedon | yes, but still... |
| 08:54.49 | vegyraupe | if you use mdbus you can suspend resume and occupy resources and it works |
| 08:54.57 | vegyraupe | if you do it in reallife oeventsd crashes |
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| 08:55.13 | vegyraupe | so yes, in the lab it works |
| 08:55.31 | vegyraupe | but maybe not on a running system in the heat of the moment |
| 08:55.44 | vegyraupe | rhkfin: tell you what I'll fill up one of my sims |
| 08:55.50 | vegyraupe | and see if I get all contacts |
| 08:55.52 | rhkfin | vegyraupe: great |
| 08:56.12 | vegyraupe | can you post the 2 logs again or point me there again ? |
| 08:56.12 | rhkfin | vegyraupe: I suppose you create a script to do it for you :) |
| 08:56.19 | vegyraupe | hehe |
| 08:56.25 | vegyraupe | I won't type 500 that is correct ;) |
| 08:56.30 | rhkfin | vegyraupe: yes I will |
| 08:56.32 | vegyraupe | I'll use my indian sim |
| 08:56.40 | vegyraupe | that should be the biggest I have |
| 08:56.45 | vegyraupe | ie smartest |
| 08:56.48 | rhkfin | ok :) |
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| 09:10.13 | methril | morning |
| 09:11.31 | Blu3 | mornin |
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| 10:56.55 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r7088e5559edd 10fso-monitord/Makefile.am: Add debug flag to valac |
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| 12:48.31 | badcloud | is there any other distro that's matched or at least come close to shr in terms of battery life? |
| 12:48.49 | PaulFertser | badcloud: om2009 should be the same |
| 12:49.07 | badcloud | thanks |
| 12:49.35 | badcloud | why is it that debian/h1/2008.12 are so far behind? |
| 12:50.20 | badcloud | and in terms of software (packages), om2009 and shr are basically alike, right? |
| 12:51.32 | lindi- | badcloud: how are they behind? |
| 12:52.25 | badcloud | well, from my usage, I could only get through half a day using om'08 without having to recharge |
| 12:52.44 | badcloud | h1 has given me 6 hours on suspend alone |
| 12:53.10 | badcloud | while shr seems like it could go for two days |
| 12:53.15 | PaulFertser | badcloud: Debian should be the same as SHR in terms of battery usage. |
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| 12:53.54 | badcloud | does that include h1, Paul? |
| 12:54.02 | lindi- | badcloud: what's the consumption? |
| 12:54.20 | badcloud | lindi- didn't quite understand the question |
| 12:54.46 | lindi- | badcloud: how many watts does it consume? |
| 12:55.19 | badcloud | I'll have to reboot to h1 to tell you that, but how do I find that out while it's under suspend? |
| 12:55.48 | lindi- | badcloud: you read it immediately after resume |
| 12:56.43 | badcloud | in dmesg? |
| 12:56.47 | PaulFertser | badcloud: if they use the same kernel and the same modem setting, it should be the same. |
| 12:57.03 | badcloud | same kernel, no |
| 12:57.57 | badcloud | I'll try the oemerge kernel in h1 |
| 12:58.42 | PaulFertser | badcloud: what kernel do they use by default? |
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| 13:01.10 | badcloud | how do I find out about modem settings? |
| 13:01.57 | PaulFertser | badcloud: by reading the logs |
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| 13:03.47 | badcloud | ok |
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| 13:08.33 | badcloud | how easy is switching kernels under say, debian or h1? |
| 13:09.04 | badcloud | would swapping the uImage(/.bin) do the trick? |
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| 13:10.04 | badcloud | I'm a bit wary of this 'config-2.6.24-20081103.git7172ec57' file in the same directory as the kernel |
| 13:12.47 | PaulFertser | badcloud: you'll need image and corresponding modules. |
| 13:14.58 | badcloud | that's way past my head |
| 13:18.14 | badcloud | Paul, I think h1 uses the 2.6.24-20081103 kernel |
| 13:18.35 | badcloud | haven't found anything relevant via google |
| 13:18.57 | badcloud | suspend seems to work fine |
| 13:19.11 | badcloud | no wakeups apart from incoming sms and calls |
| 13:19.30 | badcloud | so I'm quite confused |
| 13:19.38 | badcloud | not to mention sticking with shr for the time being |
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| 13:21.04 | Bert_2 | badcloud: are you using the latest version of shr-unstable, fully updated and upgraded ? |
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| 13:22.27 | badcloud | shr oemerge, latest I think |
| 13:22.32 | badcloud | I have h1 on usd |
| 13:22.51 | Bert_2 | badcloud: oemerge ? |
| 13:22.54 | Bert_2 | what's that ? |
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| 13:23.32 | badcloud | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-oemerge/ |
| 13:23.39 | badcloud | I'm really not the one to ask though |
| 13:24.08 | Bert_2 | so you have no idea what the differences between unstable, testing and oemerge is |
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| 13:24.27 | Bert_2 | wow, oemerge has newer images than unstable and testing |
| 13:24.47 | Bert_2 | does anyone know what the difference is between shr-oemerge, shr-unstable and shr-testing ??? |
| 13:25.03 | badcloud | oemerge from what I understood is more upstream than unstable |
| 13:25.19 | badcloud | testing if I were to sport a guess, is not being developed anymore |
| 13:25.20 | Bert_2 | unstable hasn't had updates since some time |
| 13:25.26 | Bert_2 | and audio is broken on it partely |
| 13:25.48 | badcloud | unstable and oemerge will merge soon (I think Doc mentioned that to me) |
| 13:26.03 | Bert_2 | so I'd better upgrade to oemerge |
| 13:26.08 | Bert_2 | say, how stable is it badcloud ? |
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| 13:26.36 | badcloud | so far no complaints |
| 13:26.50 | Bert_2 | awesome |
| 13:26.55 | Bert_2 | no audio issues ? |
| 13:26.59 | badcloud | no |
| 13:27.11 | badcloud | but once, auto-sus shut off after I disconnected usb |
| 13:27.14 | Bert_2 | suspends after x seconds ? |
| 13:27.17 | badcloud | works |
| 13:27.22 | Bert_2 | perfect |
| 13:27.36 | Bert_2 | is download shr-uemerge image files |
| 13:27.40 | Bert_2 | *downloading |
| 13:29.17 | Bert_2 | owyeah, does it take long before it has fully connected to the gsm network ? |
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| 13:30.13 | badcloud | haven't clocked it |
| 13:30.20 | badcloud | seems the same as unstable/testing |
| 13:30.24 | Bert_2 | okey |
| 13:30.30 | badcloud | but resume seems to be slighhhhtly faster |
| 13:30.31 | Bert_2 | as long as it doesn't get slower I'm fine with it |
| 13:30.43 | Bert_2 | resume time was already quite good |
| 13:31.15 | Bert_2 | have they already implemented a notification system for missed calls and text messages ? |
| 13:32.23 | badcloud | they integrated the package 'notifier' |
| 13:32.29 | Bert_2 | cool |
| 13:32.32 | Bert_2 | and does it work well ? |
| 13:32.50 | badcloud | so if you ever feel like falling back onto, testing or unstable, look for it in opkg.org |
| 13:32.54 | badcloud | I think it works great |
| 13:33.34 | Bert_2 | the latest image in unstable dates from the 23th of May and audio is partely broken in it |
| 13:33.40 | Bert_2 | so I'm not seeing me go back to it |
| 13:34.08 | badcloud | testing April 14th works fine |
| 13:34.21 | dns53 | notifier works ok for me |
| 13:34.31 | badcloud | just ok, dns53? |
| 13:35.25 | dns53 | it's a simple app, it does not need to do a lot |
| 13:35.29 | Bert_2 | badcloud: testing from anything before may works fine in unstable |
| 13:35.38 | Bert_2 | I have the images here somewhere |
| 13:35.53 | Bert_2 | but I like to keep track of the latest stuff and report bugs if needed |
| 13:36.15 | badcloud | that's good |
| 13:36.34 | badcloud | I adopted the same approach recently |
| 13:37.13 | Bert_2 | I have been doing it quite a long time |
| 13:37.34 | Bert_2 | the only thing that I still ahve to do is start to understand how to post bug reports on the trac stuff |
| 13:37.38 | badcloud | I've been phased by bugs |
| 13:37.48 | Bert_2 | I usually just tell people about my bugs here |
| 13:39.04 | Bert_2 | I even have automated scripts for doing things like adding swap and installing my favorite software |
| 13:39.32 | badcloud | me too. comes in handy after flashing a new image |
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| 13:39.49 | Bert_2 | badcloud: yeah, I'm using SD cards for now |
| 13:40.03 | Bert_2 | I have FSOm5 on the NAND |
| 13:40.11 | Bert_2 | so I can use my phone in case of emergency |
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| 13:41.07 | badcloud | well, I'm gonna get some fresh air |
| 13:41.20 | dns53 | how is fso compared to shr? |
| 13:41.39 | Bert_2 | dns53: last time I checked, FSO still needed zhone, and zhone is evil |
| 13:41.42 | Bert_2 | but it works |
| 13:42.43 | dns53 | the satelite display in zhone is cool but that's the only bit i liked |
| 13:43.50 | Bert_2 | dns53: the satelite stuff is also in the shr settings manager in a similar way |
| 13:44.06 | dns53 | similar but not the same |
| 13:44.39 | Bert_2 | I see |
| 13:44.47 | Bert_2 | oooo, new boot image |
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| 14:00.47 | badcloud | I prefered the "don't panic" one |
| 14:00.56 | badcloud | but it's nice too |
| 14:01.04 | Bert_2 | the don't panic one was nice |
| 14:01.14 | Bert_2 | but the new one makes it feel more ready to ship |
| 14:01.25 | Bert_2 | (although it's not near RTR) |
| 14:01.31 | badcloud | true, true |
| 14:01.31 | Bert_2 | *R2R |
| 14:01.45 | trigger_ | what's the new logo? |
| 14:01.54 | badcloud | a big white "SHR" |
| 14:01.58 | badcloud | shiney |
| 14:02.15 | Bert_2 | oooh, new version of mokomaze :D |
| 14:02.36 | Bert_2 | too bad they deleted the windows logos :p |
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| 14:10.31 | Bert_2 | okey, I already broke things apparently :s |
| 14:10.39 | badcloud | how? |
| 14:10.57 | Bert_2 | installing my usual software stuff |
| 14:11.08 | Bert_2 | but I'm not sure whether there isn't anything controversial in it |
| 14:11.12 | badcloud | did illume seg fault? |
| 14:11.17 | badcloud | just recover, that's nothing |
| 14:11.27 | Bert_2 | booting error |
| 14:11.30 | Bert_2 | broken libs |
| 14:11.31 | badcloud | oh |
| 14:11.34 | badcloud | ouch |
| 14:11.39 | Bert_2 | I'm gonna reflash |
| 14:11.53 | Bert_2 | and install new software manually this time |
| 14:13.14 | Bert_2 | perhaps my SD card has finally died :P |
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| 14:36.26 | DocScrutinizer | (big white SHR) want my "DON'T PANIC" back ;-) |
| 14:36.33 | Bert_2 | lol :P |
| 14:36.48 | Bert_2 | I'm already happy my audio when calling works again |
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| 14:37.44 | Zorkman | no lonbger don't panic? |
| 14:38.16 | DocScrutinizer | even speakerphone works kinda humm... bearable here |
| 14:39.15 | DocScrutinizer | Zorkman: opkg install splashtheme-dontpanic didn't exactly work for me (on uSD) |
| 14:40.03 | Bert_2 | DocScrutinizer: before my move from shr-unstable to shr-oemerge I had no sound when calling |
| 14:40.08 | Zorkman | my fr hasn't arrived back at my place, so they still have a day or two to fix it ;-) |
| 14:40.35 | DocScrutinizer | Zorkman: dos1 is considering a gui for splashscreens |
| 14:41.10 | DocScrutinizer | bernt: strange |
| 14:41.26 | DocScrutinizer | probably wrong ststefile |
| 14:41.41 | DocScrutinizer | or fso framework issue |
| 14:41.47 | Zorkman | isn't he also working on a gui for wifi and bt? :) |
| 14:42.26 | Zorkman | we need to ship some pills over to dos1 to keep him going :D |
| 14:42.40 | Bert_2 | GUI for WiFi and BT would be awesome |
| 14:42.45 | SpeedEvil | has some spare laxatives. |
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| 14:42.55 | Bert_2 | we could also send him more coffee |
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| 14:48.01 | bernt | DocScrutinizer: ? |
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| 14:49.06 | DocScrutinizer | huh |
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| 14:49.21 | DocScrutinizer | ? |
| 14:49.46 | bernt | what do you find strange? |
| 14:50.42 | DocScrutinizer | oh, sorry tab-mishap |
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| 14:51.06 | DocScrutinizer | was addressed to Bert_2 |
| 14:51.44 | Bert_2 | I'm getting confused |
| 14:52.04 | trigger_ | hmm, it seems oemerge is the new unstable? :P |
| 14:52.15 | Bert_2 | yeah, apparently |
| 14:52.44 | trigger_ | haven't really followed, but i choose unstable becouse i thought it was the latest/kind of most stable, is that no longer the case? |
| 14:52.51 | trigger_ | do i need to reflash for oemerge? |
| 14:52.59 | linuxxr | yes:) |
| 14:53.16 | Bert_2 | I had audio issues with unstable |
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| 14:53.21 | Bert_2 | oemerge works better for me |
| 14:53.28 | trigger_ | Bert_2: I have that too :) |
| 14:53.40 | linuxxr | i have it for 2 days |
| 14:53.49 | Bert_2 | me 2 |
| 14:53.57 | Bert_2 | people can't hear you when calling |
| 14:54.01 | Bert_2 | and you can't hear them either |
| 14:54.08 | linuxxr | bert2 no phone sound but all else works? |
| 14:54.10 | trigger_ | yep |
| 14:54.11 | Bert_2 | oemerge works for me |
| 14:54.17 | Bert_2 | linuxxr: yes |
| 14:54.23 | linuxxr | theres a workaround |
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| 14:59.14 | Bert_2 | say, where is dos1 from ? |
| 14:59.48 | max_posedon | Poland |
| 15:00.01 | Bert_2 | I didn't know we had devs in Poland |
| 15:00.06 | Bert_2 | I heard internet sucks there |
| 15:00.40 | d1b | Bert_2: where are you / to say that ^^ ? |
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| 15:01.28 | Bert_2 | d1b: Belgium, internet sucks here too |
| 15:01.58 | d1b | Bert_2: oh really? |
| 15:02.12 | d1b | i thought you in the eu had mad routing tho |
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| 15:18.46 | DocScrutinizer | internet weather is worldwide, tho there's local climate avrg |
| 15:20.27 | DocScrutinizer | and there's no place in this galaxy that doesn't see nasty weather now and then ;-) |
| 15:20.56 | trigger_ | underground? ;) |
| 15:23.25 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, this has to be darknet then. even there you see the storms and lightning |
| 15:23.55 | linuxxr | DarkStar |
| 15:24.35 | fredrin | Internet in Uruguay sucks |
| 15:24.56 | linuxxr | iwanna see an SHR 01 today |
| 15:25.19 | linuxxr | or SR |
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| 15:25.48 | Bert_2 | Say, is there a good auto rotation deamon thing for SHR ? |
| 15:26.20 | linuxxr | did u try "rotate" |
| 15:26.33 | linuxxr | at opkg.org |
| 15:26.43 | Bert_2 | yeah, but that's using an icon |
| 15:26.58 | Bert_2 | I see daemons popping up that use the accelerometers |
| 15:27.08 | linuxxr | delete the icon |
| 15:27.10 | Bert_2 | and I'm just curious whether any of them work on SHR |
| 15:27.24 | Bert_2 | linuxxr: does rotate also do accelerometers ? |
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| 15:27.52 | linuxxr | maybe after all the misc. packages get their heads together |
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| 15:29.09 | Bert_2 | yeah, the problem is I don't know which ones work and are still maintained and which ones suck and are dead |
| 15:29.33 | linuxxr | trial an error |
| 15:29.58 | Bert_2 | guess so |
| 15:30.06 | Bert_2 | I just found out one is in the repos |
| 15:30.18 | Bert_2 | omnewrotate |
| 15:30.29 | DocScrutinizer | check for date of last checkin to projects' svn might help as well |
| 15:30.44 | linuxxr | duke nukem guitat tuner dont work for me |
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| 15:31.22 | Bert_2 | awesome, omnewrotate works perfectly |
| 15:31.30 | Bert_2 | you start or stop it using the icon |
| 15:31.39 | Bert_2 | and it responds very quickly |
| 15:31.50 | Zorkman | Bert_2: any idea how much CPU/power it drains? |
| 15:31.50 | linuxxr | i thought it did but its annoying |
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| 15:34.47 | Bert_2 | Zorkman: gonna test the cpu usage in a minute |
| 15:35.04 | Bert_2 | linuxxr: what's annoying ? |
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| 15:35.37 | linuxxr | well try led clock with that |
| 15:36.20 | Bert_2 | ow you use your phone as a clock ? |
| 15:36.25 | linuxxr | in the past trouble for me buy im not a dev |
| 15:36.33 | Bert_2 | aaaaah |
| 15:36.41 | Bert_2 | I'm not a real dev either |
| 15:36.47 | linuxxr | charge+clock |
| 15:36.52 | Bert_2 | but I know linux stuff quite well |
| 15:37.37 | linuxxr | i need a couple tom-tom wall chargers |
| 15:37.57 | linuxxr | i guess there are none |
| 15:38.53 | linuxxr | if the time would stay set i would use it as a clock |
| 15:39.24 | Bert_2 | great, now it starts to rain here :( |
| 15:41.13 | linuxxr | "Nokia might reveal its new Linux software later this year at a Nokia event in Germany" wow ther off an running |
| 15:42.07 | Bert_2 | Nokia already has maemo, qt and their other linux stuff |
| 15:42.13 | linuxxr | sucked up everything off of QTE then split |
| 15:42.25 | Bert_2 | jep |
| 15:42.58 | linuxxr | not holding up their end of the aggrement |
| 15:43.13 | linuxxr | +e |
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| 16:17.39 | janvl | hello all |
| 16:20.37 | janvl | When I boot my openmoko in NOR and select boot om2009 starts fine. |
| 16:20.39 | janvl | However, when I boot in NAND, things go wrong. amongst the messages are complaints that no memory is left |
| 16:20.40 | janvl | I'm using qi. |
| 16:20.42 | janvl | As far as I know, I've no partitions on the micro SD. |
| 16:20.43 | janvl | I would like to be able to boot from NAND again. Any ideas of whats wrong? |
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| 16:33.24 | PaulFertser | janvl: can you take out your uSD to make sure you try to boot the kernel and rootfs from NAND both with NOR u-boot and with NAND Qi? |
| 16:35.37 | PaulFertser | janvl: i wonder why you have a uSD without partitions, what is it for? |
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| 17:27.12 | fredrin | ~seen dave |
| 17:27.17 | apt | dave <n=dave@pool-138-89-1-87.mad.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 46d 15h 46m 2s ago, saying: 'hahaa'. |
| 17:27.34 | fredrin | hmm |
| 17:27.55 | fredrin | strange that dave dissepeared |
| 17:28.56 | DocMobilizer | yes. sad story |
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| 17:36.10 | fredrin | DocMobilizer: what's the story? |
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| 17:39.00 | DocMobilizer | fredrin: no idea. curious as well |
| 17:39.49 | DocMobilizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.17 | fredrin | yeah, miss him |
| 17:42.09 | DocMobilizer | hope he's well |
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| 17:44.08 | fredrin | yeah |
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| 17:44.33 | DocMobilizer | k, got my VanNelle, got my latte macciato. gonna have a walk now |
| 17:44.46 | fredrin | vannelle? |
| 17:45.00 | fredrin | what language is that? |
| 17:45.02 | DocMobilizer | tobaco |
| 17:45.02 | fredrin | lol |
| 17:45.05 | fredrin | ah |
| 17:45.19 | fredrin | camel here and tabaco Uruguayo |
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| 17:55.50 | PBeck | ahoi |
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| 18:04.22 | fredrin | PBeck: yarrr |
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| 18:04.41 | PBeck | fredrin: harr harr :) |
| 18:05.07 | PBeck | captain is back on the ship ... sinking? |
| 18:05.37 | PBeck | i dont know ;) |
| 18:05.39 | fredrin | the ship has not been put on the sea yet, to many holes |
| 18:05.47 | PBeck | fredrin: omg ;) |
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| 18:06.59 | fredrin | PBeck: but according to the maketingpirates, everything should be jollygood |
| 18:07.53 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5080 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/ (gta02-core-expanded.lib gta02-core.lib lis302dl.lib): |
| 18:07.53 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Accelerometer: corrected naming of multi-use pins and made SDI and SDO |
| 18:07.53 | CIA-53 | openmoko: BiDi. Reported by Alvaro Lopes <alvieboy@alvie.com> |
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| 18:39.11 | rzr | hi |
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| 19:07.27 | rzr | released boxar : http://rzr.online.fr/q/esd |
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| 19:09.51 | Tanuva | is it possible to set POIs by lat/lon via navit's gui for geocaching? |
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| 19:18.24 | Weiss | rZr: awesomeness |
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| 19:24.21 | Weiss | i'm sure i must be able to make it play the announcement chime from stansted airport |
| 19:25.59 | Weiss | rZr / rzr_: did you write it, or just package it? |
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| 19:35.58 | Zorkman | rZr: post it on opkg.org please |
| 19:36.07 | Zorkman | rZr: that way it will reach more people |
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| 19:51.10 | Weiss | hmm, it has high CPU usage.. i wonder if it can be reduced |
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| 20:02.12 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * ra1f0af168e1c 10fso-monitord/src/dbus.vala: Add missing throw statement for FSO.DBus |
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| 20:39.00 | RzR | Zorkman: Weiss thx |
| 20:39.41 | RzR | if it works then let's put it in opkg.org |
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| 20:39.55 | RzR | Zorkman: Weiss : which distro are you using ? |
| 20:41.08 | Weiss | RzR: SHR-testing here |
| 20:41.54 | RzR | ok |
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| 21:00.01 | pavelm | Hello, everyone. |
| 21:00.26 | pavelm | I tried to get twinkle to work on neo1973 (gta01), and can't get microphone to work... :-( |
| 21:00.35 | pavelm | ...are there any tricks? |
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| 22:05.12 | RzR | Zorkman: all done : * http://www.opkg.org/package_228.html |
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