| 00:02.05 | DocScrutinizer | screen lock is worth nothing, as it doesn't help to stop suspend timeout reset |
| 00:02.30 | DocScrutinizer | i.e. screen isn't really locked |
| 00:03.08 | DocScrutinizer | you can keep the device awake by constantly hitting ts |
| 00:03.50 | max_posedon | yep, very bad... but workaround is set susptend-timeout-after-lock to 1 |
| 00:04.30 | max_posedon | but it is still problem when neo in pocket and have running irc for example |
| 00:04.56 | max_posedon | btw, is it possible switch-off screen? |
| 00:05.06 | max_posedon | (and touch screen) |
| 00:05.13 | max_posedon | e.g. don't give them power at all |
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| 00:26.24 | DocScrutinizer | shit, one of the timer controls doesn't like to be set to 0. no more autosuspend now, no matter what I set the timers to :-/ |
| 00:27.32 | DocScrutinizer | aaah, switch off and on autosuspend and autodimm fixed it |
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| 00:46.00 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: yes, is possible |
| 00:47.05 | DocScrutinizer | but seems kernel guys don't like the nasty hacks we need to do this in a way not to break everything |
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| 01:44.38 | doc|home | ok, so, things seem to be working reasonably |
| 01:44.40 | doc|home | well |
| 01:45.05 | doc|home | is it necessary to reboot every day? I can't remember which distro had that. anything else I need to know? |
| 01:48.55 | DocScrutinizer | reboot? no |
| 01:49.58 | _charly_ | maybe because of the event/0 bug in kernel 2.6.24 that uses about 20% cpu after 18 hours |
| 01:53.12 | doc|home | does wifi drop after suspend? |
| 01:57.17 | doc|home | any decent midori alternative? |
| 02:24.04 | doc|home | and anyone know how to increase in-call volume? |
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| 02:32.14 | linuxxr | wassup doc? |
| 02:32.24 | linuxxr | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.07 | linuxxr | oemerge? |
| 02:33.27 | doc|home | linuxxr: yep |
| 02:34.17 | linuxxr | intone works") |
| 02:35.18 | linuxxr | dictator,gtick,linball,omgps, an many others work well to |
| 02:35.28 | doc|home | hmm? |
| 02:35.54 | doc|home | oh, for volume control? |
| 02:36.04 | linuxxr | did u do the gsm firmware upgrade? |
| 02:36.12 | doc|home | yeah |
| 02:36.59 | linuxxr | isnt alsa the nolume control still? |
| 02:37.11 | linuxxr | or some state file |
| 02:37.16 | doc|home | no idea |
| 02:37.25 | linuxxr | volume |
| 02:37.26 | doc|home | I bumped the intone volume to 99, no change |
| 02:39.30 | linuxxr | need aumix |
| 02:39.45 | linuxxr | naaaa |
| 02:40.16 | linuxxr | gsmhandset.state if i remember correctly |
| 02:40.37 | doc|home | ok, thanks, will look into that |
| 02:40.42 | doc|home | goes for coffee firs |
| 02:40.44 | doc|home | *first |
| 02:40.56 | linuxxr | what no beer |
| 02:43.37 | doc|home | no drinkie |
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| 08:14.10 | doc|home | bwahahaha |
| 08:14.40 | doc|home | just rebooted my freerunner, straight away went into settings->connectivity and under wifi it reads "dbus is borked" :D |
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| 08:16.21 | max_posedon | sometimes happens if you did it before gsm registered |
| 08:17.24 | doc|home | yeah, I guess so |
| 08:17.26 | doc|home | also |
| 08:17.31 | doc|home | mofi = ass |
| 08:17.39 | doc|home | is there a decent alternative? |
| 08:19.44 | max_posedon | I use vala-terminal) |
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| 08:21.51 | doc|home | that's not really equivalent |
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| 08:28.09 | max_posedon | yep, but works |
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| 09:57.06 | badcloud | still there, max? |
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| 10:07.04 | xzcvczx | anyone have a freerunner battery that would care to measure it in metric? |
| 10:07.34 | SpeedEvil | metric? |
| 10:07.34 | max_posedon | badcloud, I'm? - yes |
| 10:07.35 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 10:07.41 | SpeedEvil | usually does that |
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| 10:07.46 | SpeedEvil | how accurately do you need it? |
| 10:07.53 | SpeedEvil | has a GTA01 bat - which is same size |
| 10:09.39 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: oh they are the same size |
| 10:09.43 | xzcvczx | nvm then |
| 10:09.50 | SpeedEvil | I make it 33.5*52.8*6.5 |
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| 10:10.25 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: thats quite surprising as doesnt the freerunner battery have the culomb counter embedded inside it as well? |
| 10:11.52 | SpeedEvil | the coulomb counter is a _teeny_ chip |
| 10:13.01 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: its not that teeny but thanks |
| 10:13.45 | SpeedEvil | The one I have is QFN6 or so - which is teeny |
| 10:13.49 | xzcvczx | hmmm now just need to order a couple of freerunner batteries |
| 10:13.57 | SpeedEvil | why? |
| 10:14.01 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: what manufacturer |
| 10:14.54 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: building a different device and am getting annoyed trying to route the ti culomb counter so just reckon it will be easier to use the freerunners battery as its about the same price |
| 10:15.04 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 10:15.09 | SpeedEvil | It was a TI part |
| 10:15.15 | SpeedEvil | maybe I got teh packet wrong |
| 10:15.25 | SpeedEvil | looked at maxim? |
| 10:15.29 | SpeedEvil | Or just using voltage? |
| 10:16.24 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: want to use HDQ instead of using I2C as i dont have any spare i2c ports |
| 10:16.45 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: voltage is too inaccurate for lion/po |
| 10:16.47 | SpeedEvil | passes xzcvczx the bit-bang fairy. |
| 10:16.59 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: yeah, but no thanks :P |
| 10:17.00 | SpeedEvil | xzcvczx: not so much if you're low-rate IME. |
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| 10:17.54 | SpeedEvil | hasn't looked at HDQ |
| 10:18.05 | SpeedEvil | what's this for? |
| 10:18.21 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: its a 1-wire communication standard, made by TI |
| 10:19.52 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: could just use voltage just need to work out best way to do it |
| 10:20.19 | SpeedEvil | what current are you drawing? |
| 10:21.27 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: absolute max, ~200mA |
| 10:21.59 | SpeedEvil | xzcvczx: AIUI, simple voltage - with teh appropriate curve - gets you 10% or so accuracy at C/5 |
| 10:22.02 | xzcvczx | normally <50mA |
| 10:22.07 | SpeedEvil | even without doingmuch else |
| 10:22.51 | SpeedEvil | Somewhere I had a patch for GTA01 battery charge estimation from battery volts, but it got lost in a crash I think. |
| 10:22.52 | SpeedEvil | (disk) |
| 10:23.59 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: hmmm, time to go back to the schematic then |
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| 10:25.04 | SpeedEvil | You need to look at temperature extremes if you're doing that though |
| 10:25.13 | SpeedEvil | At -20 the performance changes a fair bit |
| 10:25.32 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: it doesnt need to be that accurate at different temperatures |
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| 10:27.56 | SpeedEvil | one thing you do need to watch is battery impedence increasing with age |
| 10:28.22 | SpeedEvil | so - for example - you might calibrate it by turning on and off a 100mA load a couple of times on boot, or battery charged |
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| 10:29.53 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: well its rather hard deciding which way to go, i can pay $11.95 for a 1100mA battery with only lipo protection and no culoumb counter or $19.95 for a 1200mA battery with culoumb counter |
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| 10:30.04 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: and a lot let bullcrap |
| 10:30.19 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 10:30.25 | SpeedEvil | depends how many you're making |
| 10:30.36 | SpeedEvil | And how certain you'll be able to get them in 5 years |
| 10:31.11 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: i am sure if i buy enough of them i can talk nicely about getting them slightly cheaper |
| 10:31.22 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 10:31.31 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: or just take their datasheet to their supplier :P |
| 10:31.32 | SpeedEvil | doesn't address the 5 years thing tho |
| 10:31.46 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: the second part does |
| 10:31.57 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 10:32.06 | SpeedEvil | but so does the 'just use a nokia battery' |
| 10:32.20 | xzcvczx | nokia batteries don't contain the culoumb counter |
| 10:33.14 | SpeedEvil | The discharge of a li-ion battery is anything but flat |
| 10:33.33 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: huh? |
| 10:33.52 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: i relise that |
| 10:33.54 | SpeedEvil | And the remaining voltage is a better proxy in some ways for how much charge you can get out at a given load, than the actual charge still in the battery |
| 10:34.04 | SpeedEvil | just rambling |
| 10:34.10 | SpeedEvil | plz ignore. |
| 10:34.27 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: so nothing really changes then |
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| 10:35.21 | xzcvczx | :P |
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| 10:38.28 | xzcvczx | is it just me or do the openmoko servers seem to be a bit unstable at the moment? |
| 10:39.29 | Defiant | openmoko itself seems to be a bit unstable at the moment... |
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| 10:43.53 | DocScrutinizer | yes. mail seems to fail as well - packetloss |
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| 10:50.55 | PBeck | hi |
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| 10:53.01 | |PhilB| | hi all - where is the best place to talk about issues with current testing images of om2009? |
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| 10:55.53 | max_posedon | |PhilB|, #openmoko-cdevel or #paroli |
| 10:56.27 | |PhilB| | max_posedon: ah ok - thanks for the info |
| 10:57.59 | badcloud | just wanted to ask you which method you use to connect to ap's under vala |
| 10:59.14 | max_posedon | badcloud, wifi power-on by shr-settings |
| 10:59.19 | max_posedon | than iwconfig |
| 10:59.38 | badcloud | right |
| 10:59.41 | max_posedon | also wpa_supplicant may be usefull for some methonds |
| 10:59.49 | badcloud | I've been doing that and using ifup/down |
| 10:59.59 | badcloud | but it doesn't work more than once |
| 11:00.51 | badcloud | can you hop and disconnect from ap's using only iwconfig? |
| 11:01.56 | max_posedon | I didn't try do this |
| 11:02.08 | max_posedon | but you always can poweroff/poweron wifi |
| 11:02.15 | max_posedon | and start from beginning |
| 11:03.13 | xzcvczx | cant you just do iwconfig <iface> essid "" |
| 11:04.58 | max_posedon | I didn't tried, and can't test now |
| 11:05.30 | badcloud | in any case you need to run ifup eth0 after, right? |
| 11:06.04 | badcloud | I get errors when running ifup for the second time |
| 11:06.24 | max_posedon | if you don't show me logs, I cant say anything |
| 11:06.36 | max_posedon | anyway, poweroff/poweron wifi should helps |
| 11:06.37 | badcloud | one sec then |
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| 11:09.48 | badcloud | http://pastebin.com/m40257d47 |
| 11:10.36 | badcloud | and now shr settings won't let me shut wifi off |
| 11:10.48 | dos1 | badcloud: reboot |
| 11:10.56 | dos1 | badcloud: that's some weird and ugly dbus bug |
| 11:11.10 | dos1 | and known |
| 11:11.16 | xzcvczx | ouch, for a $19.95 package from openmoko its going to cost me $69 in shipping :S |
| 11:11.33 | badcloud | dos1, nuts |
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| 11:13.00 | sap | hello, i started to try and install android on my freerunner yesterday and managed to change/upgrade something that prevented usb networking working |
| 11:13.34 | max_posedon | #freerunner-android or #android-freerunner is where you want to ask about it |
| 11:14.01 | sap | i think i've got back to using all the stable versions of OM uboot, kernel and rootfs (om2008.12) |
| 11:14.27 | sap | max_posedon: I'd like to get back to a working openmoko though (at the moment) |
| 11:14.46 | max_posedon | om2008.12 is outdated |
| 11:14.56 | badcloud | how many distros are being worked on for fr atm? |
| 11:14.58 | max_posedon | you want om2009* or shr-oemerge |
| 11:15.24 | sap | max_posedon: I thought om2009 was unstable |
| 11:15.34 | sap | max_posedon: ok, I'll try om2009 |
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| 11:15.38 | badcloud | and why not shr-unstable, max? |
| 11:15.55 | max_posedon | because shr-oemerge now more upstream) |
| 11:16.06 | badcloud | I see |
| 11:16.11 | badcloud | might do that now too |
| 11:16.51 | sap | max_posedon: is this the correct location to get the files from? http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/ |
| 11:17.08 | max_posedon | sap, yes |
| 11:17.26 | sap | max_posedon: thanks, I'll give it a go |
| 11:17.52 | dos1 | oemerged is going to be merged to unstable really soon |
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| 11:19.08 | sap | max_posedon: which uboot file do I use? |
| 11:19.28 | max_posedon | any |
| 11:19.37 | max_posedon | I always suggest most recent |
| 11:20.08 | sap | max_posedon: what's the diff between console and paroli for the rootfs? |
| 11:20.47 | max_posedon | console is for people who don't want gui in phone |
| 11:20.54 | max_posedon | and ready make calls via ssh |
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| 11:29.39 | SpeedEvil | ponders a text 'adventure' with a accel-gesture interface. |
| 11:31.50 | dos1 | sap: i suggest Qi instead of u-boot |
| 11:33.19 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: don't you have the 01 though? |
| 11:35.20 | sap | dos1: hmm, I thought it said on the wiki (android install instructions) that uboot was recommended |
| 11:36.03 | PaulFertser | sap: u-boot sucks, qi rocks, everybody knows that |
| 11:36.25 | sap | dos1: i think it was after making the changes to run a kernel greater than 2MB that I start to get problems with USB networking |
| 11:36.41 | sap | PaulFertser: I didnt |
| 11:36.41 | SpeedEvil | yes. |
| 11:36.48 | SpeedEvil | xzcvczx: I've got i2c accels tho |
| 11:36.59 | SpeedEvil | (not soldered in) |
| 11:38.07 | PaulFertser | sap: it was meant to be ironic |
| 11:38.24 | SpeedEvil | And yes. |
| 11:38.25 | PaulFertser | sap: though i can say that i'd rather hack on Qi code if it doesn't work properly than install u-boot. |
| 11:38.29 | SpeedEvil | Though it would be cool. |
| 11:38.41 | SpeedEvil | ah - misread |
| 11:38.43 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: ah ok |
| 11:39.32 | dos1 | hmm... i would really like to have simple light sensor in my gta02... |
| 11:39.56 | dos1 | isn't it time for hardware hacking? :D |
| 11:40.00 | SpeedEvil | xzcvczx: no - misread PaulFertsers comment - I do have accels, and could in principle solder themin |
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| 11:40.38 | SpeedEvil | however - thte garden/house is eating all of my hacking time/energy |
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| 11:47.54 | sap | so i was thinking about selling my freerunner |
| 11:48.15 | sap | what's the going rate for one of these? |
| 11:48.45 | sap | it's hardly been used, fully boxed etc ... even has the plastic coating on the screen still. |
| 11:49.14 | max_posedon | why you want sell it?! |
| 11:49.36 | sap | I got it out yesterday to wipe it clean before putting it on ebay, but decided to try android on it for a bit of fun |
| 11:50.33 | sap | max_posedon: i don't use it - it's been in its box for the last few months |
| 11:50.37 | SpeedEvil | IMO - it's a fun hacking toy - but hasn't been generally usable as a phone |
| 11:50.39 | max_posedon | try shr-oemerge/Android cup-cake/qt-extended-improvment |
| 11:50.44 | SpeedEvil | and if no time for hacking... |
| 11:50.54 | dos1 | hmm |
| 11:50.59 | SpeedEvil | (usable as a phone may be changing) |
| 11:51.06 | dos1 | then, why did you buy FR? |
| 11:51.07 | max_posedon | problem is, that no any similar phone in 3year perspective |
| 11:51.57 | max_posedon | lost it today - lost forever |
| 11:52.21 | SpeedEvil | dos1: a lot of they hype at the time was it'd be working as a phone RSN |
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| 11:52.55 | dos1 | RSN? |
| 11:53.11 | SpeedEvil | Real Soon Now |
| 11:53.22 | SpeedEvil | the hype |
| 11:53.39 | max_posedon | I use neo as main every day phone since semptember |
| 11:53.42 | dos1 | SpeedEvil: well, i'm wondering, why i had known everything about FR before i bought it... :x |
| 11:53.55 | dos1 | SpeedEvil: am i different? strange? odd? |
| 11:53.56 | dos1 | :D |
| 11:53.59 | max_posedon | Qtopia before January |
| 11:54.08 | max_posedon | SHR since February |
| 11:54.18 | dos1 | i'm using SHR-unstable as my daily phone |
| 11:54.38 | dos1 | ~ since february |
| 11:54.39 | max_posedon | ok, it has bugs, but no any bugs, what can stop from using it |
| 11:54.45 | dos1 | before that i was using 2007.2 as my daily phone |
| 11:54.51 | dos1 | max_posedon: ++ |
| 11:56.00 | sap | max_posedon: battery life was the problem for me |
| 11:56.49 | PBeck | dos1: you has known all? |
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| 11:57.00 | dos1 | sap: yep, with 2007.2 i had to charge every 0.5 day with my normal usage |
| 11:57.21 | max_posedon | sap, this is because suspend doesn't work correctly in om2008.12 |
| 11:57.24 | dos1 | sap: now, with SHR i have to charge every ~2 days with my normal usage |
| 11:57.30 | SpeedEvil | max_posedon: sure. Now - however - pick a random image from that time-period - what are the chances of getting a working phone (sends/recieves calls, suspends, does SMS in and out) |
| 11:57.43 | dos1 | sap: by *my* normal usage is different than normal usage of normal people ;) |
| 11:57.45 | SpeedEvil | I'm not saying that at any point it wasn't possible to use it as a phone. |
| 11:57.54 | max_posedon | with shr-oemerge you will have 48h in "standby" without any problems |
| 11:58.04 | max_posedon | SpeedEvil, near 50% I think |
| 11:58.24 | SpeedEvil | I'm saying that at most points, with most releases, there were major issues that required at least moderate hacking to get it working as a phone. |
| 11:58.32 | max_posedon | BUT, people who want use it as every-day-phone, want only one image |
| 11:58.41 | max_posedon | doesn't metter it is 1% or 100% |
| 11:58.53 | dos1 | PBeck: i didn't know about buzz problem |
| 11:58.57 | dos1 | PBeck: and echo |
| 11:59.03 | PBeck | dos1: ans glamo problem? |
| 11:59.04 | PBeck | *and |
| 11:59.09 | max_posedon | and as I know, at DocScrutinizer's folder you always can get tested and working image |
| 11:59.10 | SpeedEvil | yes - if you find a working image, and stick with it - that's a different issue. I've got - for example - a really old scaredycat image on my GTA01. |
| 11:59.18 | dos1 | PBeck: no, about glamo i knew |
| 11:59.29 | PBeck | dos1: when you was not the first .. |
| 11:59.56 | dos1 | PBeck: no, i have gta02v5 from first batch |
| 12:00.05 | dos1 | glamo topic was discussed on maillist really early |
| 12:00.11 | dos1 | even before mass production |
| 12:01.13 | dos1 | PBeck: but about state of software i knew that much to not be disappointed. there even was emulator of gta01 in qemu, which i used to look at software |
| 12:01.22 | dos1 | PBeck: even before i decided to buy gta02 |
| 12:01.41 | dos1 | PBeck: i think if you wanted to know everything, you could know everything about state of software |
| 12:01.51 | dos1 | but people are lazy |
| 12:02.01 | PBeck | dos1: hum i think the glamo problem was discussed after the first production |
| 12:02.17 | PBeck | dos1: gps problem was at the same time - ok no its a softwarefix |
| 12:02.36 | dos1 | some fanboy says "it's fuc*ing good", some noob (or newbie :P) buys, and then everyone is disappointed |
| 12:03.08 | dos1 | PBeck: no... i'm sure it was before |
| 12:03.10 | PBeck | dos1: openmoko wrote that we have functional phones for the consumer 6 month after the production ;) |
| 12:03.48 | dos1 | PBeck: i don't trust in everything i read ;) |
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| 12:04.01 | dos1 | maybe that's why i knew everything before i bought it |
| 12:04.12 | dos1 | well, everything - of course everything about state of software |
| 12:04.15 | dos1 | :D |
| 12:04.38 | max_posedon | PBeck, sorry, wasn't Qtopia was ready-to-use? |
| 12:04.38 | PBeck | dos1: ... |
| 12:04.45 | PBeck | max_posedon: lol |
| 12:05.11 | PBeck | max_posedon: we have no distri which you can compare with other ;) |
| 12:05.23 | PBeck | +phones |
| 12:05.37 | max_posedon | you can laugh as much as you want |
| 12:05.43 | dos1 | PBeck: well, i agree with max_posedon. when they wrote that FR is ready to use, they said it about Qtopia |
| 12:05.57 | dos1 | PBeck: and Qtopia was really ready to use as phone |
| 12:06.06 | max_posedon | but I knew how make FR usable in any state |
| 12:06.11 | PBeck | max_posedon: qtopia => suspend problems, no sms, only after a restart, |
| 12:06.23 | max_posedon | PBeck, I haven't such problems |
| 12:06.34 | dos1 | I haven't such problems too |
| 12:06.35 | max_posedon | sms works, after novermber even russian |
| 12:06.39 | sap | just flashed uboot, kernel and rootfs from unstable - rebooted and X starts but I get a "paroli stopped running unexpectedly" error message. |
| 12:07.16 | dos1 | sap: unstable ;) |
| 12:07.24 | max_posedon | sap, try previous image) |
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| 12:07.53 | dos1 | unstable versions which are really stable have only SHR and Firefox i think :D |
| 12:08.41 | PBeck | max_posedon: dos1 ... ;) ok. i can say to all compromise great. |
| 12:08.44 | leinir | Anybody here know how to add a feed to planet openmoko? |
| 12:10.03 | leinir | http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/maemomer-on-freerunner-half-ported/#comment-22 <-- i am asking because of this :) |
| 12:10.45 | DocScrutinizer | for SHR go for current Oemerge image! better than testing-090416 |
| 12:11.12 | sap | max_posedon: take the rootfs from the 29th? |
| 12:11.28 | max_posedon | sap, I don't know om2009 state |
| 12:11.34 | max_posedon | 'cause I'm using shr-oemerge |
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| 12:12.24 | PBeck | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko:Community_Portal#Blogs_Aggregator leinir |
| 12:12.29 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: :-) |
| 12:13.31 | sap | max_posedon: could you please give me a link to the files you are running? |
| 12:14.15 | sap | or a link to a set of files that are known to work :) |
| 12:14.22 | max_posedon | sure |
| 12:14.23 | max_posedon | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-oemerge/images/om-gta02/ |
| 12:14.27 | sap | max_posedon: thanks |
| 12:14.31 | max_posedon | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-oemerge/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119810+44bf2b8856db1f5079a1a531f70bbd25cf4ed488-r3.4-om-gta02.bin |
| 12:14.32 | DocScrutinizer | DAMN - my radiocontroled clock again exactly 55min late :-((( |
| 12:14.58 | max_posedon | uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119810+44bf2b8856db1f5079a1a531f70bbd25cf4ed488-r3.4-om-gta02.bin |
| 12:15.12 | max_posedon | shr-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20090529-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 12:15.17 | DocScrutinizer | and still claims reception of DCF77 went ok with good signal strength |
| 12:15.25 | max_posedon | sap, and after boot you will need edit one config file |
| 12:15.41 | max_posedon | if you want correct number/contact list recognition |
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| 12:16.30 | sap | max_posedon: i just want to get usb networking back really |
| 12:17.01 | max_posedon | with that image, your FR will be at eth1 on your host |
| 12:17.12 | dos1 | sap: it works :P |
| 12:17.12 | max_posedon | (e.g. not usb0, but eth1) |
| 12:17.23 | dos1 | and i don't remember when it didn't |
| 12:17.31 | sap | max_posedon: ok, I'll give that a go later |
| 12:17.55 | sap | dos1, max_posedon: I've got to go now - thanks for your help |
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| 12:24.52 | DocScrutinizer | in Germany we call that a "treppenwitz" - a really nasty joke, that FR starts to become a phone you could actually sell, the moment OM basically retires from all further development |
| 12:25.52 | max_posedon | btw, do you know A7 status, how many they produce them? |
| 12:26.20 | max_posedon | as for me, looks like openmoko want become "android-phone" and nothing more |
| 12:27.52 | dos1 | max_posedon: i think we reached state, where we don't need anymore official openmoko distros... |
| 12:28.05 | dos1 | max_posedon: there are really great community distros |
| 12:28.13 | dos1 | even om2009 is now more community distro :P |
| 12:28.32 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: OM seems to stop want to become anything. For A7: no idea, but probably enough for selling them until EOL due to no more customers interested |
| 12:29.11 | max_posedon | its interesting what koolu will do |
| 12:29.32 | DocScrutinizer | btw I heard A6-buzzfix-reworked actually is _better_ than A7 :-P |
| 12:29.55 | dos1 | we only need talented kernel guy in community |
| 12:30.00 | DocScrutinizer | tho that's rumour for now |
| 12:30.02 | max_posedon | and "before dead" openmoko-leads continue traveling through androids conferences |
| 12:30.24 | max_posedon | DocScrutinizer, hm.. I don't know, but I still can't hear good music in headphones |
| 12:30.26 | max_posedon | ) |
| 12:30.42 | lindi- | dos1: yep and X guy |
| 12:30.54 | DocScrutinizer | this is a "won't fix" |
| 12:30.54 | dos1 | is A7 bass fixed? |
| 12:31.02 | DocScrutinizer | nope |
| 12:31.29 | dos1 | lindi-: didn't we have guys working on glamo driver in community? :P |
| 12:31.30 | max_posedon | yes, I know, and its bad |
| 12:31.41 | lindi- | dos1: yep, and we need them :) |
| 12:31.42 | max_posedon | actually I'm looking for workarounds |
| 12:31.52 | max_posedon | may be some headphones with battery |
| 12:32.20 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer: why that is won't fix? |
| 12:32.25 | max_posedon | or some (don't know how to say) device amplifier |
| 12:33.47 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: try to find a 60-ohm (or higher) headset. place another pair of 60ohm resistors in series |
| 12:34.07 | dos1 | Ainulindale: when we want to switch to Xorg? |
| 12:34.26 | max_posedon | hm.. I think my Synhaizer HD555 even more then 60-ohm |
| 12:34.29 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: then adjust wm8753 equalizer to get a somewhat decent audio |
| 12:34.45 | max_posedon | but I didn't understand this : "place another pair of 60ohm resistors in series" |
| 12:34.58 | max_posedon | I'm very bad even in basic electro stuff |
| 12:36.42 | DocScrutinizer | dos1: tpe EE always refused to fixx it. were afraid it'd break gsm-dl via hs-jack, due to no idea about correct procedure - which includes switching amp outputs to high-Z |
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| 12:37.59 | DocScrutinizer | so now we got no decent footprint on even A7 pcb to place some big C instead of notorious nasty 1uF (4.7uF max) |
| 12:39.08 | DocScrutinizer | dos1: so: won't fix |
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| 12:42.06 | DocScrutinizer | same for beads to fix buzz for good. I said "stop A7 layout for another week, we're close to a fix". I even said in may 2008 we should have beads every audioline out/in of can. Nobody listened, so now we have a botch "fix" for internal mic only |
| 12:43.41 | SpeedEvil1 | :/ |
| 12:44.01 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil1: yup, exactly |
| 12:46.01 | leinir | Oh yes, reason i was reminded of the request was: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/screenshot-of-maemomer-on-freerunner/ :) |
| 12:46.03 | DocScrutinizer | now they fired all the ppl with a clue, and keep those who created that mess :-/ |
| 12:46.27 | SpeedEvil1 | So what is remaining at OM? |
| 12:46.44 | DocScrutinizer | basically nothing, I'd say |
| 12:46.56 | SpeedEvil1 | reports conflict. |
| 12:47.22 | DocScrutinizer | huh? |
| 12:48.13 | SpeedEvil1 | not a response to your comment |
| 12:48.32 | SpeedEvil1 | just amplification on my earlier line |
| 12:48.54 | DocScrutinizer | aah |
| 12:49.52 | xzcvczx | DocScrutinizer: are you an om employee? |
| 12:50.07 | DocScrutinizer | not anymore |
| 12:50.11 | DocScrutinizer | nevetheless |
| 12:50.22 | DocScrutinizer | ~docscrutinizer |
| 12:50.23 | apt | i heard docscrutinizer is jOERG, a HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko |
| 12:51.06 | dos1 | dos is a boss here |
| 12:51.06 | dos1 | ~dos |
| 12:51.07 | apt | methinks dos is (Disk Operating System) This OS is what got it all started for PCs. Denial of Service... |
| 12:51.09 | dos1 | :/ |
| 12:51.12 | dos1 | ;D |
| 12:51.14 | xzcvczx | DocScrutinizer: ah, ok. i am just wondering whether you know if the battery you can buy as a spare is a 02 battery or 01 battery? |
| 12:51.34 | DocScrutinizer | 02 |
| 12:51.43 | xzcvczx | DocScrutinizer: thanks |
| 12:51.48 | DocScrutinizer | np |
| 12:51.51 | dos1 | dos1 is a boss here |
| 12:51.54 | dos1 | ~dos1 |
| 12:52.06 | dos1 | :( |
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| 12:52.32 | DocScrutinizer | ~dos1 is a nasty bragger |
| 12:52.32 | apt | DocScrutinizer: okay |
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| 12:52.56 | DocScrutinizer | ;-> |
| 12:53.03 | dos1 | argh :P |
| 12:53.14 | DocScrutinizer | ~dos1 |
| 12:53.15 | apt | hmm... dos1 is a nasty bragger |
| 12:53.25 | xzcvczx | nice |
| 12:53.33 | DocScrutinizer | hrhrhrrr |
| 12:53.43 | DocScrutinizer | ~forget dos1 |
| 12:53.43 | apt | i forgot dos1, DocScrutinizer |
| 12:54.30 | DocScrutinizer | don't mess with apt ;-D |
| 12:54.45 | dos1 | ~apt |
| 12:54.46 | apt | from memory, apt is apt, or kinky. A Pretty_Cool Tool. APT package handling utility -- command-line interface |
| 12:54.49 | dos1 | :P |
| 12:55.21 | xzcvczx | ~xzcvczx is awesome \n/mode #openmoko +o xzcvczx |
| 12:55.22 | apt | okay, xzcvczx |
| 12:55.36 | xzcvczx | ~xzcvczx |
| 12:55.36 | apt | rumour has it, xzcvczx is awesome n/mode #openmoko +o xzcvczx |
| 12:55.42 | xzcvczx | :( |
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| 12:55.47 | viq | :P |
| 12:55.48 | DocScrutinizer | don't mess with apt ;-D |
| 12:55.49 | xzcvczx | ~forget xzcvczx |
| 12:55.49 | apt | xzcvczx: i forgot xzcvczx |
| 12:55.53 | thrashold | You should've escaped that |
| 12:56.09 | xzcvczx | thrashold: i did but it removes the escapes automatically |
| 12:56.16 | xzcvczx | as you can see when i tried to teach it |
| 12:56.51 | DocScrutinizer | you're gambling. be warned |
| 12:58.58 | thrashold | also, the slash after \n shouldn't be there :P |
| 12:59.27 | xzcvczx | thrashold: it doesnt matter, i cant get him to start a new line |
| 12:59.39 | DocScrutinizer | sure it should, if he wants to hijack the channel |
| 13:00.08 | DocScrutinizer | not appreciated. so again, you've been warned |
| 13:00.35 | xzcvczx | :S my bad |
| 13:00.54 | thrashold | DocScrutinizer: If the bot sends that to the server with the slash, nothing will happen, if he sends it without, well, it would work. |
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| 13:01.38 | xzcvczx | wishes om would release a technical drawing of the 02 battery |
| 13:02.04 | DocScrutinizer | xzcvczx: mompl, you get it |
| 13:02.18 | xzcvczx | mompl? |
| 13:02.41 | DocScrutinizer | err, what kinda "technical drawing" would you need? |
| 13:03.17 | DocScrutinizer | ~mompl is a stupid short form for "moment please" |
| 13:03.17 | apt | okay, DocScrutinizer |
| 13:03.34 | xzcvczx | DocScrutinizer: accurate location of contacts and confirmation of physical size |
| 13:03.56 | xzcvczx | and also contact spacing/size |
| 13:04.01 | DocScrutinizer | aaah, this kind of drawing. No idea if we got any |
| 13:04.04 | thrashold | [battery[ <= contacts go here |
| 13:04.14 | xzcvczx | thank you thrashold |
| 13:04.50 | xzcvczx | DocScrutinizer: ah ok, |
| 13:05.37 | DocScrutinizer | refer to nokia BL-5C. think you might find specs for this component more easily |
| 13:06.31 | thrashold | "02" meant "gta02"? |
| 13:07.01 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
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| 13:08.28 | xzcvczx | DocScrutinizer: good point, |
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| 13:27.49 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: do you have a pair of calipers? |
| 13:28.15 | SpeedEvil | yes - that was with a tape measure though |
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| 13:28.53 | dos1 | argghhhh |
| 13:29.10 | dos1 | Polish Telecom blocked repo.or.cz... |
| 13:29.15 | dos1 | and i can't build shr now... |
| 13:30.22 | dos1 | hmmm |
| 13:30.24 | dos1 | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/repo.or.cz |
| 13:30.35 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7152afd3ab69 10/libfsoframework/vapi/linux26.vapi: linux26.vapi: add signalfd(2) |
| 13:30.36 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r8a66f1b7a2cf 10/libfsoframework/vapi/linux26.vapi: linux26.vapi: bind inotify and friends |
| 13:30.48 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: if you are bored and have nothing better to do, do you mind measuring distance from centre of left contact to left side of battery and size of each contact? |
| 13:30.53 | DocScrutinizer | huh? what's repo.or.cz? |
| 13:31.27 | SpeedEvil | xzcvczx: in a couple mintues |
| 13:31.46 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: thanks, also centre of contact to centre of adjacent contact would be useful |
| 13:31.51 | DocScrutinizer | xzcvczx: why do you need that? lost your own bat? |
| 13:32.31 | xzcvczx | DocScrutinizer: don't have a clue where my 01 is and i will be ordering a couple of 02 ones in a couple of weeks |
| 13:33.04 | DocScrutinizer | k, let's see how I can possibly help |
| 13:33.14 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer: |
| 13:33.16 | dos1 | repo.or.cz[0: 62.24.64.27]: errno=Connection timed out |
| 13:33.17 | dos1 | fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection timed out) |
| 13:33.19 | dos1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.31 | xzcvczx | DocScrutinizer: i am planning on using them in another project thanks to the integrated gas gauge |
| 13:34.51 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r93080711c59c 10/libfsoframework/vapi/linux26.vapi: linux26.vapi: add unshare(2) |
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| 13:38.00 | DocScrutinizer | xzcvczx: http://www.octekconn.com/uploads/file/file_path_62.pdf |
| 13:38.12 | DocScrutinizer | xzcvczx: HTH |
| 13:38.50 | xzcvczx | DocScrutinizer: perfect, thank you |
| 13:39.12 | DocScrutinizer | is writng invoice about 10minutes high level EE work for xzcvczx |
| 13:39.15 | DocScrutinizer | ;-D |
| 13:39.22 | trigger_ | how do i pass arguments to the kernel? the ones in /boot/append-GTA02 does not show up after the phone is booted by doing "cat /proc/cmdline" |
| 13:40.47 | lindi- | trigger_: you did not specify what boot loader you use |
| 13:41.00 | trigger_ | sorry, QI |
| 13:41.17 | DocScrutinizer | dos1: aah, dbus :-/ |
| 13:44.10 | xzcvczx | paypals DocScrutinizer 10000 republic credits |
| 13:44.44 | DocScrutinizer | feels like Dagobert Duck |
| 13:46.50 | SpeedEvil | xzcvczx: still need dims? |
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| 13:48.36 | SpeedEvil | aha |
| 13:48.46 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: just end of bat to centre of first contace please |
| 13:48.54 | xzcvczx | -e +t |
| 13:51.12 | SpeedEvil | width - 33.8, length, 62.7, height 6.9, contacts 2.4 width, 3.3 or so high |
| 13:51.35 | SpeedEvil | about 2.1mm from the top of the case |
| 13:51.45 | SpeedEvil | on the right as you look at it |
| 13:52.05 | SpeedEvil | contact 1 beginning 3.2mm from the edge |
| 13:52.14 | xzcvczx | i am assuming length should be 52.7? |
| 13:52.34 | SpeedEvil | about 0.6mm between contacts |
| 13:52.44 | SpeedEvil | oops |
| 13:52.45 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 13:53.42 | SpeedEvil | total length of contact area is about 8.2mm |
| 13:54.03 | SpeedEvil | contacts are recessed about 0.7mm |
| 13:54.23 | SpeedEvil | case edges along the long side are hemicylindrical |
| 13:54.38 | SpeedEvil | sides |
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| 14:02.17 | PaulFertser | trigger_: all arguments should be separated by spaces and be on the only one line, i.e. first line in file. |
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| 14:05.22 | PaulFertser | lindi-: probably you have an idea why Xorg with glamo driver from debian repos doesn't work for me? It segfaults in read_ts(), the first argument to it seems to be a NULL pointer (judging by my approximate understanding of arm dissassembly). |
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| 14:08.05 | lindi- | PaulFertser: does it work with xserver-xorg-video-fbdev? |
| 14:08.22 | lindi- | PaulFertser: are you running hal? |
| 14:08.39 | PaulFertser | lindi-: second question: yes; first -- i'm yet to try |
| 14:08.51 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: so something like http://uSpirit.cc/~simon/battery.png |
| 14:09.54 | SpeedEvil | all the three contacts are the same size |
| 14:09.59 | SpeedEvil | is that meant to be to scale? |
| 14:10.04 | thrashold | lindi-: Is running hal suggested or discouraged? |
| 14:10.14 | usr | where can i find xterm? i searched in all repositories and found nothing |
| 14:10.16 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: lol no, its mspaint and yeah i know they all need to be the same size |
| 14:10.27 | lindi- | thrashold: depends on who you ask. i don't want it since it wakes up every time I type a letter |
| 14:10.29 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 14:10.34 | SpeedEvil | ok - that's about it then |
| 14:10.48 | xzcvczx | it is best program i have for technical drawings :P thanks |
| 14:11.09 | usr | #openmoko-cdevel |
| 14:11.13 | usr | -j #openmoko-cdevel |
| 14:11.55 | xzcvczx | usr: lol failing there? |
| 14:14.11 | dos1 | better fail would be: |
| 14:14.37 | dos1 | /join |
| 14:14.41 | dos1 | err |
| 14:14.46 | dos1 | join #gay-sex |
| 14:14.47 | dos1 | ;) |
| 14:15.49 | dos1 | tpsa is evil :/ |
| 14:15.53 | dos1 | (polish telecom) |
| 14:16.13 | thrashold | dos1: Hey, there is nobody in that channel! |
| 14:16.52 | xzcvczx | dos1: try nz telecom then |
| 14:17.01 | dos1 | thrashold: did you want to meet new people? sorry :D |
| 14:17.30 | dos1 | xzcvczx: they are blocking IPs, which are sending spam in their meaning |
| 14:17.56 | dos1 | so most of IRC servers are blocked, gimp.org, repo.or.cz, ... |
| 14:19.08 | xzcvczx | dos1: lol our internet just costs lots and slows down to <20kB/s overnight |
| 14:19.19 | dos1 | lesbian.mine.ru is also blocked :P |
| 14:19.58 | dos1 | errr |
| 14:20.01 | dos1 | lesbian.mine.nu |
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| 14:20.37 | dos1 | :P |
| 14:21.07 | dos1 | with polish telecom you can't be sure, if site is down, or it's blocked "for your own safety, and safety of others" :P |
| 14:21.43 | thrashold | Well, I would say that the last one is probably down. :D |
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| 14:22.23 | dos1 | thrashold: and what about repo.or.cz? |
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| 14:22.40 | thrashold | I access it (on port 80, at least) |
| 14:22.54 | dos1 | dbus-c++ from that repo is needed to build SHR... :/ |
| 14:23.15 | dos1 | thrashold: well, i can't even ping it |
| 14:23.57 | thrashold | I still haven't managed to build SHR even once so far |
| 14:24.33 | PaulFertser | lindi-: with xorg fbdev driver running "xrandr" once is enough to segfault the server (in DamageUnregister()), with glamo xorg driver i start xserver, do xrandr thing once, see the screen with X in the center, press on TS once and it crashes in read_ts |
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| 14:58.32 | leinir | http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/100_3187.JPG <-- Does this work for anybody? |
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| 15:00.45 | doc|work | leinir: says loading but it doesn't seem to be |
| 15:00.59 | leinir | right... |
| 15:01.22 | leinir | kinda annoying, it's a screenshot of Mer running on a freerunner ;) |
| 15:01.45 | leinir | i wanna see! ;) |
| 15:02.00 | leinir | http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/screenshot-of-maemomer-on-freerunner/ <-- That :) |
| 15:02.11 | thrashold | MER? The software for the rovers? |
| 15:02.12 | thrashold | :D |
| 15:02.26 | leinir | thrashold: The community version of maemo :) |
| 15:03.22 | thrashold | The screenshots doesn't show here, either :) |
| 15:04.08 | leinir | http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/maemomer-on-freerunner-half-ported/ <-- The shot on there works fine, why could he not just use the same host? ;) |
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| 15:06.51 | lindi- | PaulFertser: i remember seeing this bug |
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| 15:54.45 | Serdar | hi |
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| 16:02.26 | doc|work | what do you do with navit and the bin file? |
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| 16:02.52 | Defiant | doc|work: you read the wiki |
| 16:03.04 | doc|work | I did, couldn't see it |
| 16:03.10 | doc|work | it says download the maps but doesn't say where |
| 16:03.26 | doc|work | or rather, to which directory |
| 16:03.44 | doc|work | ah, nevermind |
| 16:03.47 | doc|work | it's at the top... |
| 16:03.56 | doc|work | *before* the how to download bit |
| 16:03.58 | doc|work | smrt |
| 16:04.26 | Defiant | doc|work: But does your navit start? |
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| 16:05.31 | doc|work | Defiant: yep |
| 16:05.57 | Defiant | hmm |
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| 16:44.37 | KaZeR | doc|work, maybe #navit is a better place to ask for support :) |
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| 17:24.43 | linuxxr | an the list of os's that run on the freerunner keep growing |
| 17:25.17 | leinir | Indeed - i'm really looking forward to Mer :) |
| 17:25.58 | leinir | i've sort of given up using my freerunner as a phone, in stead i will be using it as a web tablet type thing... i suspect i'll be getting more out of it that way :) |
| 17:26.14 | leinir | Don't need to worry so much about keeping it working as a phone, can afford to break things and such :) |
| 17:27.01 | linuxxr | why does your phone not work? |
| 17:27.28 | linuxxr | no provider? |
| 17:28.24 | leinir | It's more a case of how i can't afford to play around with it so much, because i need the thing working as a phone... Now i've got another device to do that particular thing, i can play around with the freerunner more :) |
| 17:28.27 | linuxxr | u bought an iphone didnt u |
| 17:28.39 | leinir | Bah, no i didn't :) |
| 17:28.45 | linuxxr | lololol |
| 17:29.03 | linuxxr | no matter |
| 17:29.08 | leinir | i've got a sony ericsson M600i, which ended up being a spare phone when one of the other amarok guys bought an LG Arena :) |
| 17:29.36 | linuxxr | linux has just about started to take the phone market |
| 17:29.52 | SpeedEvil | there is a hell of a lot of linux phones out tehre |
| 17:30.02 | linuxxr | yea |
| 17:30.04 | SpeedEvil | there are not a hell of a lot of open linux phones out there |
| 17:30.11 | linuxxr | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.26 | leinir | i am likely going to be getting a nokia n900 when it gets released :) |
| 17:30.31 | SpeedEvil | But - once you get to the point that your average phone is now faster than your average laptop of a decade ago |
| 17:30.49 | SpeedEvil | and the laptop of a decade ago ran linux _just_fine_ ... |
| 17:31.29 | linuxxr | still does if u use slackware |
| 17:31.32 | leinir | *nods* :) |
| 17:31.53 | linuxxr | -current |
| 17:32.08 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 17:33.05 | SpeedEvil | wants a window-manager - not a window-pimper. |
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| 17:34.55 | badcloud | well put |
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| 19:37.10 | badcloud | anyone else get a wierd bug that won't allow switching auto-sus on? |
| 19:37.17 | badcloud | (shr oemerge) |
| 19:37.24 | dos1 | badcloud: do you have usb plugged in? :P |
| 19:37.30 | dos1 | if yes, then it's not weird |
| 19:37.31 | dos1 | :P |
| 19:37.32 | badcloud | haha, no |
| 19:38.44 | badcloud | I think essentially what happened is that shr didn't change power settings on usb disconnect |
| 19:38.58 | badcloud | not sure why, because I couldn't reproduce |
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| 20:05.20 | badcloud | can't believe I never asked this before, but |
| 20:05.40 | badcloud | how do I find out which rev gta02 I have? |
| 20:07.21 | PaulFertser | badcloud: cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep Revision |
| 20:09.46 | badcloud | thanks, Paul |
| 20:10.05 | badcloud | ummmm, 24420360? |
| 20:10.13 | badcloud | didn't know there were that many ;) |
| 20:10.56 | PaulFertser | badcloud: 2442 is SoC and 0306 means you have GTA02v6 |
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| 20:11.50 | badcloud | ah |
| 20:11.54 | badcloud | good to know :) |
| 20:13.26 | badcloud | any site on hardware changes for each version? |
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| 20:13.40 | badcloud | nm, found it |
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