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| 12:02.49 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r102bed54d863 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/controller/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: controller: secure better against errors while enabling/disabling/suspending/resuming |
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| 12:49.11 | Bert_2 | Hi, I can't hear anyone on the other line anymore when I pick up my phone in shr-unstable, is anyone else experiencing this problem as well or did I mess too much around with certain options ? |
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| 14:57.59 | thrashold | SHR's app loading screen is something small at the bottom saying loading. Freshly compiled E is a whole screen with something rotating at the center. Anyone has any idea where to switch this? |
| 14:58.55 | thrashold | It increases app load time by four times for me (3 seconds vs. 12 seconds) |
| 15:05.37 | jonkristian | I annoys me that people write in their native language on planet.... |
| 15:05.45 | jonkristian | s/I/It |
| 15:06.39 | jonkristian | I think it's a syndrome |
| 15:07.14 | dos1 | thrashold: e splashscreen should be disabled by default in SHR |
| 15:07.22 | dos1 | thrashold: and SHR's loading screen isn't app :) |
| 15:07.42 | dos1 | thrashold: it's just shell script to load image to framebuffer |
| 15:07.49 | thrashold | I was talking about app loading notification |
| 15:07.59 | thrashold | E app loading notification in SHR |
| 15:08.35 | dos1 | ah |
| 15:08.43 | dos1 | thrashold: it's in e-wm-theme-illume-shr |
| 15:08.57 | dos1 | thrashold: you could try to use edj file from that theme |
| 15:09.18 | dos1 | thrashold: (btw that was me who did that something small at the bottom ;)) |
| 15:09.26 | thrashold | OK, thank you, I just wanted to know where it comes from. |
| 15:09.46 | thrashold | Another question, so SHR has a splash screen now and it is no longer looking for one? |
| 15:10.48 | dos1 | thrashold: it's no longer looking for splash app, but splash artwork is still welcomed :) |
| 15:12.45 | badcloud | sigh, can only connect once with latest shr unstable |
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| 15:16.30 | badcloud | I thought this was fixed after testing |
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| 15:34.50 | badcloud | is anyone having a smooth experience with mofi and shr? |
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| 16:05.38 | DocScrutinizer | mofi is a pile of crap it seems ;-) |
| 16:06.26 | badcloud | I suspected as much... |
| 16:06.48 | badcloud | how do you get around wifi then, DocScrutinizer? |
| 16:07.10 | DocScrutinizer | not at all so far, for SHR |
| 16:07.18 | badcloud | I see |
| 16:07.38 | DocScrutinizer | not much effort been done here to get it though |
| 16:08.05 | DocScrutinizer | prolly you can put it to work, via cli |
| 16:08.08 | badcloud | hmmm |
| 16:08.14 | badcloud | cli? |
| 16:08.18 | DocScrutinizer | shell |
| 16:08.24 | DocScrutinizer | terminal |
| 16:08.36 | badcloud | ah |
| 16:08.43 | badcloud | right command line interface |
| 16:08.59 | badcloud | as I mentioned earlier, I can only connect once |
| 16:09.02 | badcloud | for some reason |
| 16:09.07 | badcloud | on latest unstable |
| 16:10.19 | DocScrutinizer | actually I got gprs flat plan, and don't use FR a lot when at home next to my AP |
| 16:10.44 | DocScrutinizer | so no real pressure to have wifi working here |
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| 16:25.22 | thrashold | So I shouldn't complain that wicd on my Debian sucks? Mofi didn't even start for me on SHR :D |
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| 16:29.40 | DocScrutinizer | id actually did on shr-t-090416. Not for yesterdays oemerge though (white screen only) |
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| 17:10.46 | badcloud | it runs in unstable, but just freezes when I try to connect to a wep encrypted ap |
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| 18:12.20 | linuxxr | oemerge has an SHR boot splash |
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| 19:19.27 | johngay | hello? |
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| 20:08.29 | johngay | evening |
| 20:09.46 | johngay | anyone here using hackable:1? |
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| 20:39.52 | thrashold | I just had a thought. Given the nature of SHR (and being a stable _hybrid_ release), wouldn't Frankenstein be a suitable logo for it? :D |
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| 21:12.57 | badcloud | johngay, yo |
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| 21:13.25 | badcloud | *hackable1 |
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| 21:15.34 | jonkristian | lindi-: icewm is truly a pleasure, is there any way to automaticly populate the menu? |
| 21:19.05 | jonkristian | ok both works now, though fbdev is waay faster than Xglamo |
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| 21:29.51 | linuxxr | i wonder just how many freerunners remain un sold? |
| 21:31.38 | doc|home | I'm beginning to wish mine had |
| 21:32.41 | linuxxr | if gta02-core comes up with an improved pcb replacement will u upgrade? |
| 21:32.56 | doc|home | why? there's still no usable OS |
| 21:33.38 | bruce_c | I did some configuration of GPRS settings and now I just get an error "dbus is borked". Is there a way to reset it? |
| 21:33.57 | linuxxr | well if they change the hardware that problem might get worse |
| 21:34.09 | doc|home | linuxxr: yey, two steps back, no steps forward |
| 21:34.30 | doc|home | I'm actually getting pissed off now. This was supposed to be a usable phone not long after release. |
| 21:34.34 | doc|home | it's been 9 months... |
| 21:34.52 | bruce_c | me too. Stuff still seems pretty broken on the software side |
| 21:34.52 | linuxxr | buy it might solve a few inherent problems that wernt fixable before |
| 21:35.07 | max_posedon | doc|home, isn't shr-unstable usable? |
| 21:35.12 | linuxxr | a year |
| 21:35.26 | doc|home | max_posedon: nope, I mean, it doesn't even map text message sender numbers to the contacts list |
| 21:35.34 | doc|home | that in itself makes the phone pointless to me |
| 21:35.36 | bruce_c | max_posedon: it's not. For example I just tried to install openbmap and it failed to find loads of python stuff |
| 21:35.46 | bruce_c | and it failed to save gprs settings |
| 21:35.54 | linuxxr | fail |
| 21:35.57 | max_posedon | doc|home, liar |
| 21:36.00 | doc|home | max_posedon: ... |
| 21:36.12 | doc|home | max_posedon: I have the thing on my desk, with no sim card for exactly that reason... |
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| 21:36.41 | doc|home | or at least, it's not mapping texts on my sim to numbers on my sim |
| 21:36.58 | max_posedon | still liar, at least it works for me |
| 21:37.00 | doc|home | maybe the built-in contacts/texts received while using it, is a different thing |
| 21:37.05 | doc|home | why the fuck would I lie? |
| 21:37.26 | max_posedon | you asking me?!) |
| 21:37.34 | linuxxr | soon things will be going in the same direction!! |
| 21:37.47 | max_posedon | I just want to say, that latest shr's haven't this issue |
| 21:38.06 | max_posedon | also I know that qtopia is quite usable |
| 21:38.11 | max_posedon | same for android |
| 21:38.43 | max_posedon | I don't understand panic here |
| 21:39.00 | linuxxr | has there been any more improvements in qtw improved? |
| 21:39.16 | max_posedon | I don't know |
| 21:40.05 | bruce_c | goes to try FSO M5.1 again |
| 21:40.06 | max_posedon | I'm interested in only FSO/SHR stuff. |
| 21:40.21 | linuxxr | oemerge? |
| 21:40.49 | max_posedon | bruce_c, what is the reason to use distro which created *just for testing* framework? |
| 21:41.10 | max_posedon | ok, as you wish. as for me I suggest all shr-oemerge |
| 21:42.27 | bruce_c | max_posedon: which framework? As I understand it FSO is the future, 'official' distro? |
| 21:42.47 | max_posedon | bruce_c, totally wrong |
| 21:42.55 | linuxxr | i installed many opkg stuff most of which worked |
| 21:42.56 | max_posedon | FSO is just low-level-framework |
| 21:43.15 | bruce_c | but my reason is that I want to use openbmap. It's listed as a freesmartphone client, so I'm seeing if it'll work any better under FSO |
| 21:43.23 | max_posedon | and fso-ms5.1 created just for testing low-level framework |
| 21:43.29 | bruce_c | oh |
| 21:43.54 | max_posedon | SHR and Paroli is examples, of high-level distros/frameworks |
| 21:44.03 | max_posedon | which uses FSO at low-level |
| 21:44.48 | bruce_c | guess I should chuck it in a cupboard and wait a year to wait for things to improve then :/ |
| 21:45.10 | doc|home | ok, so, I have my phone, running a flash of shr from two days ago, and it does not match numbers stored in my sim to numbers on text messages. Liar I am not. |
| 21:45.47 | max_posedon | doc|home, which image you flashed? |
| 21:45.50 | linuxxr | shr -unstable is very unstable at this point |
| 21:45.55 | max_posedon | testing/unstable/oemerge? |
| 21:45.57 | bruce_c | max_posedon: is there an FSO implementation on Android or Qtopia? I guess not... |
| 21:46.07 | doc|home | max_posedon: unstable I thought, how can I confirm? |
| 21:46.18 | bruce_c | oemerge? hmm that's new |
| 21:46.34 | max_posedon | bruce_c, no, they I are different projects |
| 21:46.46 | max_posedon | android isn't linux at all (as for me) |
| 21:46.47 | linuxxr | 04162009 iin testing is working well as i headr |
| 21:47.26 | max_posedon | doc|home, I don't know, I just use shr-unstable updated-up-to-date, and no problems. |
| 21:47.42 | doc|home | anyone know how to confirm which version of shr you're using? |
| 21:47.47 | linuxxr | i have oemerge installed foe 20 hours |
| 21:47.48 | bruce_c | anyone know why python-netclient isn't in the shr repo? |
| 21:47.52 | max_posedon | doc|home, hm... you might be need edit one config file |
| 21:47.56 | max_posedon | bruce_c, it is! |
| 21:48.02 | max_posedon | after opkg update |
| 21:48.19 | doc|home | max_posedon: which one, and how? |
| 21:48.33 | bruce_c | max_posedon: so you can run opkg update, just not 'upgrade' on shr testing/unstable? |
| 21:48.40 | linuxxr | /etc/version maybe |
| 21:48.53 | max_posedon | /etc/frameworkd-phonegui.conf |
| 21:49.03 | max_posedon | doc|home, setup in this file |
| 21:49.14 | doc|home | 200905022248 |
| 21:49.20 | linuxxr | yup |
| 21:49.23 | max_posedon | dial number prefixed correctly for your country |
| 21:50.54 | doc|home | there's no dial number in there, just "libframeworkd-phonegui-efl.so.0" |
| 21:50.58 | doc|home | as a string |
| 21:50.59 | linuxxr | oemerge has to reboot frequently |
| 21:51.27 | max_posedon | doc|home, so, you use testing |
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| 21:51.58 | doc|home | max_posedon: so it should work :/ |
| 21:52.01 | max_posedon | and I suggest latest shr-oemerge |
| 21:52.13 | max_posedon | doc|home, it works! but haven't some features |
| 21:52.25 | doc|home | like number recognition? |
| 21:52.29 | max_posedon | yep |
| 21:52.39 | doc|home | haha |
| 21:52.44 | doc|home | so they're removing features? |
| 21:52.53 | DocScrutinizer | nah |
| 21:53.04 | max_posedon | no, it never was there |
| 21:53.06 | doc|home | ... |
| 21:53.14 | doc|home | you just called me a liar and said it was there |
| 21:53.33 | max_posedon | liar that shr haven't number recogintion |
| 21:53.42 | doc|home | that's what I just said... |
| 21:53.43 | max_posedon | because shr have |
| 21:53.49 | doc|home | are you on crack? |
| 21:54.00 | max_posedon | once, more |
| 21:54.04 | max_posedon | install shr-oemerge |
| 21:54.11 | max_posedon | and we will continue speak |
| 21:54.27 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: ;-) |
| 21:54.31 | doc|home | so I say "x doesn't have y" and you say it does, but it turns out you're actually talking about something completely different... |
| 21:55.12 | max_posedon | ok, little info for you |
| 21:55.21 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: shr-oemerge isn't "sth completely different" than SHR |
| 21:55.34 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer: it is in the context we were talking about |
| 21:55.42 | max_posedon | SHR(as software project) have different distros/images |
| 21:55.55 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer: he even asked what version of shr I was running and never mentioned it when I said unstable |
| 21:55.58 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: ahaa |
| 21:56.03 | max_posedon | shr sources *have today this feature* |
| 21:56.13 | max_posedon | and you can find it in -unstable or -oemerge |
| 21:56.26 | doc|home | but not testing which you say I have? |
| 21:56.26 | bruce_c | is testing just a few weeks behind unstable? |
| 21:56.29 | bruce_c | like in debian?: |
| 21:56.50 | max_posedon | doc|home, yep |
| 21:56.55 | DocScrutinizer | bruce_c: atm yes |
| 21:57.00 | max_posedon | because testing very outdated |
| 21:57.09 | doc|home | ok, so, are there docs for shr-oemerge? what's the difference between that and testing? |
| 21:57.20 | doc|home | docs on how to install rather |
| 21:57.43 | DocScrutinizer | as usual: use dfu-util |
| 21:57.56 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer: yep, but where are the images? |
| 21:58.19 | bruce_c | doc|home: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-oemerge/ |
| 21:58.22 | doc|home | and do I need to update the firmware? |
| 21:58.25 | doc|home | thanks bruce_c |
| 21:58.53 | bruce_c | doc|home: yeah, use dfu-util to upgrade the rootfs and kernel |
| 21:59.06 | doc|home | thanks |
| 21:59.10 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: errr, "update the firmware"? |
| 21:59.42 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer: om2009 has a requirement to update some firmware. GSM possibly? It's been a while since I read it. |
| 22:00.11 | DocScrutinizer | that's recommended for all devices, irespective of distro you use |
| 22:00.13 | bruce_c | I guess some people might think of Linux as firmware |
| 22:00.21 | doc|home | ok, thanks |
| 22:00.27 | bruce_c | i.e. what gets flashed to the phone |
| 22:00.30 | DocScrutinizer | bruce_c: that's why I asked |
| 22:00.33 | doc|home | wasn't sure if other distros would break on that |
| 22:00.46 | DocScrutinizer | not nowadays any more |
| 22:01.08 | doc|home | so, what's the difference between shr-oemerge and testing? |
| 22:01.24 | DocScrutinizer | there were issues of old bugs in some rootfs showing up when updating GSM-FW |
| 22:01.54 | DocScrutinizer | testing seems to be much older than oemerge |
| 22:02.28 | linuxxr | so everyone should do the gsm firmware flash? |
| 22:02.55 | DocScrutinizer | I used oemerge from yesterday after using testing-090416 for a month. It's much better than testing |
| 22:02.59 | bruce_c | if it's old then yes, I guess so |
| 22:03.02 | linuxxr | or just certain versions of gta02? |
| 22:03.09 | DocScrutinizer | linuxxr: yup |
| 22:03.21 | DocScrutinizer | all |
| 22:03.26 | linuxxr | ok |
| 22:04.03 | DocScrutinizer | linuxxr: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing |
| 22:04.10 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: ^^ |
| 22:04.13 | linuxxr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.28 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer: yep, following that now. Thanks. |
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| 22:06.14 | doc|home | heh, how do you get the uSD card out again? :) |
| 22:06.39 | doc|home | nm, got it |
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| 22:15.59 | bruce_c | it's not safe to run an 'ipkg upgrade' on -unstable, right? |
| 22:16.45 | max_posedon | why? |
| 22:16.57 | max_posedon | btw, opkg, not ipkg |
| 22:17.34 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/sdcard-handle/ |
| 22:17.41 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: :-) |
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| 22:20.59 | badcloud | so, shr unstable *does* have sms # mapping? |
| 22:23.19 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer: hahaha |
| 22:23.33 | doc|home | doc|home: alternatively, screwdriver + wedging action :/ |
| 22:23.43 | DocScrutinizer | hahaha???? :-/ |
| 22:23.48 | doc|home | indeed |
| 22:23.58 | doc|home | yours is far more... methodical. |
| 22:24.09 | doc|home | I had no plastic slip thingy |
| 22:24.37 | DocScrutinizer | it's scotchtape |
| 22:26.36 | doc|home | hmm |
| 22:26.36 | DocScrutinizer | and simcard-holder manuf "stole" the idea from me, as did the shipping box manuf before ;-) |
| 22:26.36 | doc|home | mine says it's moko12 |
| 22:26.37 | DocScrutinizer | duh?? there's no moko12 |
| 22:26.37 | DocScrutinizer | gsm-fw |
| 22:26.37 | doc|home | exactly... |
| 22:26.41 | doc|home | oh, no, u-boot |
| 22:26.48 | doc|home | nevermind then |
| 22:26.56 | DocScrutinizer | sure you're not looking to uBoot? |
| 22:27.07 | DocScrutinizer | aaah |
| 22:27.52 | doc|home | when I select boot from microsd it says unable to read "uimage.bin" from mmc1:1 |
| 22:28.06 | doc|home | I'm trying to get the rest, but it only flashes up for an instant |
| 22:28.18 | doc|home | wrong image format for bootm command |
| 22:28.28 | doc|home | error: can't get kernel image |
| 22:28.36 | doc|home | this is for the gsm firmware update |
| 22:28.50 | doc|home | maybe I should double check the uSD card contents |
| 22:29.35 | DocScrutinizer | you didn't create the uSD correctly then. Noticed the remarks about physical device, NOT partition? |
| 22:29.48 | doc|home | hmmm |
| 22:31.04 | DocScrutinizer | also please notice the recommendation to use NOR uboot |
| 22:31.16 | doc|home | ok |
| 22:31.23 | doc|home | how do I find the physical device? |
| 22:31.46 | badcloud | which distro are you trying to boot from usd, doc|home? |
| 22:31.58 | doc|home | badcloud: the gsm firmware update |
| 22:32.01 | DocScrutinizer | usually you see in dmesg or /var/log/messages |
| 22:32.05 | badcloud | ah |
| 22:32.11 | bruce_c | max_posedon: because otherwise I need to re-flash each time to update. |
| 22:33.10 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer: seems not under ubuntu |
| 22:33.56 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: also if you insert a uSD with a fs on it, it usually is automounted and you can tell from 'mount' output |
| 22:36.44 | DocScrutinizer | If mount says sth like '/dev/mmcblk1 /media/card' then your physical device is /dev/mmcblk (without the tailing 1). same for /dev/mmcblk1p1 -> phy: /dev/mmcblk1 (w/o the tailing p1) |
| 22:37.17 | doc|home | ah, so, /dev/sddX should work? That's how I did it the first itme |
| 22:37.19 | doc|home | *time |
| 22:37.38 | DocScrutinizer | nope, phy is /dev/sdd then |
| 22:37.52 | doc|home | ah |
| 22:37.52 | doc|home | ok |
| 22:38.09 | doc|home | that must be it then |
| 22:38.44 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:39.03 | DocScrutinizer | sdd2 is 2. partition, aso |
| 22:44.16 | doc|home | should I see "boot from NOR-U-Boot" when I boot my freerunner using aux+power? |
| 22:44.38 | doc|home | argh |
| 22:44.47 | doc|home | using aux + power *is* nor-u-boot :/ |
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| 22:45.45 | DocScrutinizer | you see "(NOR)" in menu headline |
| 22:46.13 | DocScrutinizer | does it boot now? |
| 22:47.20 | doc|home | yep |
| 22:47.28 | doc|home | is flashing right now |
| 22:47.29 | doc|home | thanks |
| 22:47.36 | doc|home | was the X on the end of the dd line |
| 22:47.38 | DocScrutinizer | you might have to hit the screen to undimm eventually (a little flaw ) |
| 22:47.43 | doc|home | yeah |
| 22:47.45 | doc|home | noticed that |
| 22:48.16 | DocScrutinizer | if screen is blue, you're halfway there |
| 22:49.53 | DocScrutinizer | if it turns green, it's finished |
| 22:55.35 | doc|home | green now :) |
| 22:55.48 | johngay | Evening . . . |
| 22:57.04 | max_posedon | bruce_c, as for me, I'm just put /home/root to uSD |
| 22:57.25 | max_posedon | it can be buggy, but usefull |
| 22:58.21 | doc|home | grrrr |
| 22:58.30 | doc|home | why does it think I have more than one freerunner connected? |
| 22:58.38 | johngay | Anyone here playin' with H:1? |
| 22:58.42 | doc|home | during the flash/usb reset process |
| 22:59.36 | DocScrutinizer | usb0 and ethX? |
| 22:59.51 | doc|home | no idea |
| 22:59.57 | doc|home | happens intermittently |
| 23:03.05 | linuxxr | whats up with this kernel file? |
| 23:03.08 | linuxxr | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-oemerge/images/om-gta02/uImage-GTA02.bin.bin |
| 23:03.28 | linuxxr | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-oemerge/images/om-gta02/?C=M;O=D |
| 23:04.14 | max_posedon | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-oemerge/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119810+44bf2b8856db1f5079a1a531f70bbd25cf4ed488-r3.4-om-gta02.bin |
| 23:04.43 | max_posedon | + http://build.shr-project.org/shr-oemerge/images/om-gta02/shr-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20090529-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 23:04.56 | max_posedon | + dfu-util -a kernel + dfu-util -a rootfs |
| 23:05.06 | max_posedon | = success |
| 23:06.36 | DocScrutinizer | *.bin.bin sounds strange |
| 23:10.26 | max_posedon | shr-shr-image too, but... as is) |
| 23:10.48 | doc|home | I like the new SHR booting screen |
| 23:12.12 | max_posedon | yep, this boostplash can kill Qi project) |
| 23:13.03 | max_posedon | DocMobilizer, this is your doesn't it? or you just was first person to announce? |
| 23:14.03 | doc|home | oh, and which theme is bestillume or illume shr? I selected the latter before but it gave me no shutdown dialog |
| 23:14.07 | bruce_c | isn't Qi still faster? |
| 23:14.21 | max_posedon | illume-shr |
| 23:14.26 | doc|home | thanks |
| 23:14.27 | max_posedon | bruce_c, faster |
| 23:14.42 | max_posedon | bruce_c, but who want faster and don't see such image?) |
| 23:14.53 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: I suggested a "don't panic" bootsplash |
| 23:15.02 | DocScrutinizer | dos built it |
| 23:15.18 | bruce_c | it's nice to have, but I prefer my phone to boot faster - more functionality, less eye candy :) |
| 23:15.21 | max_posedon | I love this young polak) |
| 23:15.34 | DocScrutinizer | I created the bootsplash image and announced it |
| 23:16.17 | doc|home | takes a long time for the sim to be initialised |
| 23:16.59 | doc|home | aaaghhh |
| 23:17.01 | bruce_c | it does. That's why phones have start-up animations |
| 23:17.05 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 23:17.11 | doc|home | after all this it still doesn't match up the sim numbers to sim sms! |
| 23:17.13 | doc|home | sobs |
| 23:18.30 | max_posedon | doc|home, I remind you about config |
| 23:18.41 | doc|home | yeah, remembered that. Editing it now |
| 23:18.43 | doc|home | thanks |
| 23:18.44 | max_posedon | if you store numbers in "short" not internation format |
| 23:18.58 | max_posedon | it just doesn't know how to normalize |
| 23:20.09 | doc|home | how do you find the country code? |
| 23:20.11 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: where's the config? |
| 23:20.37 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer: /etc/frameworkd-phonegui.conf |
| 23:20.41 | bruce_c | doc|home: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_call_prefixes ? |
| 23:20.44 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: usually U are supposed to know |
| 23:21.08 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: thnx |
| 23:21.10 | doc|home | well, there's international prefix and then there's national prefix, country_code and home_prefix |
| 23:21.28 | bruce_c | I guess you should be able to use e.g. +44 etc. |
| 23:21.32 | doc|home | I'm gussing internation_prefix doesn't change, and nation_prefix is your own |
| 23:21.41 | doc|home | but country_code and home_prefix? |
| 23:22.59 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: where is your home? |
| 23:23.12 | doc|home | vancouver, canada |
| 23:23.27 | DocScrutinizer | ouch, no idea then ;-) |
| 23:23.31 | doc|home | maybe the local number? |
| 23:23.44 | doc|home | but country code vs national_prefix :/ |
| 23:23.55 | DocScrutinizer | international prefix usually is "00" |
| 23:24.04 | doc|home | yeah |
| 23:24.10 | DocScrutinizer | national prefix often is "0" |
| 23:24.23 | max_posedon | in Belarus 810, and national is 80 |
| 23:24.39 | DocScrutinizer | hehe, those soviets |
| 23:25.16 | max_posedon | I know, just to show that sometimes different |
| 23:25.39 | DocScrutinizer | yes, in tpe international is 002 |
| 23:26.06 | DocScrutinizer | still not as strange as 810 |
| 23:27.20 | max_posedon | we use(used a year ago, not it changes) numbers started from 0 as service calls |
| 23:27.35 | max_posedon | 01 - fire station, 02 - police, 03 - emergency, etc |
| 23:27.56 | DocScrutinizer | aah, so it's blocked for prefix |
| 23:28.26 | doc|home | booting so slow :/ |
| 23:28.45 | DocScrutinizer | first boot? is really slooooow |
| 23:28.47 | max_posedon | its just first "configure" boot |
| 23:28.53 | doc|home | hmm, ok |
| 23:29.22 | DocScrutinizer | btw, first time you log in to KDE it takes ages as well |
| 23:29.27 | DocScrutinizer | same issue |
| 23:29.32 | doc|home | hehe |
| 23:29.34 | doc|home | gnome the same |
| 23:29.43 | max_posedon | hm.. but here image can be prepared "configured" I think |
| 23:30.00 | DocScrutinizer | probably yes |
| 23:30.25 | DocScrutinizer | nevermind, we really got other issues ;-) |
| 23:31.06 | max_posedon | yep, nobody will fix it anyway, because it isn't interested task |
| 23:32.28 | max_posedon | DocScrutinizer, btw, in "openmoko-the-company is spread the world time" who cared about qemu? |
| 23:32.48 | max_posedon | pure that project become dead before pushed upstream |
| 23:33.20 | doc|home | yey, finally, contact vs number recognition |
| 23:33.24 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: seems dead |
| 23:33.27 | doc|home | except on sms messages from other countries |
| 23:33.34 | doc|home | :/ |
| 23:33.48 | max_posedon | so continue fix prefixes) |
| 23:33.55 | doc|home | max_posedon: hmm? |
| 23:34.38 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: hope you got those numbers fully qualified in your contacts |
| 23:34.44 | max_posedon | smth wrong with yur internation prefixes |
| 23:35.14 | doc|home | DocScrutinizer: no idea, would be down to the old phone really, will look into it |
| 23:35.25 | DocScrutinizer | doc|home: otherwise there's no way to match to foreign number of sms |
| 23:35.51 | max_posedon | DocScrutinizer, btw, I think you didn't received my smses? If not I want make one more test now, when I'm not in roaming. |
| 23:35.54 | doc|home | seems to be lacking a + and 00etc |
| 23:36.05 | doc|home | no big deal really |
| 23:36.14 | doc|home | unlike it not setting the time |
| 23:36.18 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: nope. and go ahead |
| 23:36.27 | doc|home | is that a known issue? time setting not working? |
| 23:36.59 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, kinda known, yes |
| 23:37.08 | max_posedon | I'm just starting any gps app to get correct time |
| 23:37.12 | doc|home | any workaround? |
| 23:37.20 | max_posedon | tangogps) |
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| 23:37.38 | max_posedon | really, I'm not jokeing |
| 23:37.46 | doc|home | right, sounds like time to go walk the dog then :) |
| 23:37.48 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: I think doc is talking about sms timestamp |
| 23:37.55 | doc|home | mofi is still flaky I see |
| 23:38.16 | max_posedon | shr shows "departure" sms time |
| 23:38.24 | max_posedon | in authors TZ |
| 23:38.25 | DocScrutinizer | mofi is %%#@# |
| 23:38.45 | doc|home | max_posedon: then some of them were sent in 1969 :) |
| 23:38.45 | max_posedon | but if you have correct time + correct TZ(getted from gsm for example) |
| 23:38.56 | max_posedon | wow! |
| 23:38.57 | doc|home | but no, I was talking about system time |
| 23:39.10 | doc|home | actually |
| 23:39.14 | DocScrutinizer | ok, gps a good workaround |
| 23:39.17 | doc|home | it seems all of them were sent in 1969 :/ |
| 23:39.41 | doc|home | except one |
| 23:40.16 | DocScrutinizer | works here |
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| 23:41.22 | DocScrutinizer | 2007, 2008, 2009 all there |
| 23:42.21 | max_posedon | mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessag |
| 23:42.22 | max_posedon | ebook 'all |
| 23:42.38 | max_posedon | doc|home, then see timestamp: field |
| 23:42.49 | DocScrutinizer | errr, what? |
| 23:43.10 | max_posedon | mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessagebook 'all' |
| 23:43.22 | max_posedon | this command retrive messages from sim |
| 23:43.32 | max_posedon | retrive them 'AS IS' |
| 23:43.33 | DocScrutinizer | where to? |
| 23:43.40 | max_posedon | to stdout) |
| 23:43.53 | DocScrutinizer | very helpful |
| 23:44.13 | max_posedon | yep, to see which date setted in timestamp: |
| 23:44.21 | max_posedon | to findout which it is bug |
| 23:44.33 | DocScrutinizer | as mentioned, here messages app works with timestamps correctly |
| 23:45.05 | DocScrutinizer | so if there's 1969 it has been stored when sms is received |
| 23:45.29 | DocScrutinizer | prolly on a phone with out correct time set |
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| 23:47.43 | DocScrutinizer | gonna get my breakfast finally. dunno if for yesterday or next morning :-P |
| 23:49.54 | doc|home | time looks correct |
| 23:50.14 | max_posedon | just eat dumplings, if you know what it is |
| 23:50.23 | max_posedon | doc|home, e.g. mdbus show correct time |
| 23:50.30 | max_posedon | but shr-messages doesn't? |
| 23:50.32 | doc|home | or rather, not unreasonable |
| 23:50.34 | doc|home | yeah |
| 23:50.46 | doc|home | maybe it's a different datetime format? |
| 23:50.51 | doc|home | it's not a timestamp as such |
| 23:51.03 | max_posedon | 1. which date and time your neo has |
| 23:51.05 | doc|home | Day Mon Day-number |
| 23:51.27 | max_posedon | 2. I think it is timestamp, just python pp displays it in this way, nothing more |
| 23:51.32 | doc|home | ah, ok |
| 23:51.45 | doc|home | the time on my neo is definitely wrong, but I need to go do the whole gps thing to get that set correctly |
| 23:51.57 | doc|home | ok, will do that, how do I get tango to pick up my coordinates? |
| 23:52.29 | max_posedon | just wait |
| 23:52.43 | doc|home | does it take a while the first time? |
| 23:52.44 | max_posedon | coordinates not important, just wait for a time fix |
| 23:53.03 | doc|home | well, gonna walk the dog, so will go for a bit |
| 23:53.14 | max_posedon | take a neo with you |
| 23:53.17 | doc|home | exactly |
| 23:53.37 | doc|home | so, gps is on automatically, and tango will "just work" without changing anything or starting anything? |
| 23:53.47 | max_posedon | yep |
| 23:53.55 | doc|home | ok, back in a while, thanks |
| 23:54.26 | doc|home | gah |
| 23:54.29 | doc|home | no screen locking? |
| 23:55.24 | max_posedon | hm... AUX doesn't work?! |
| 23:56.25 | doc|home | ah yes, but if I hit the power button and go to lock, that doesn't. No pam support or somesuch |
| 23:56.28 | doc|home | back later |
| 23:56.56 | max_posedon | yep. this is know issue, `that lock` is from e17 |
| 23:57.20 | max_posedon | (btw, looks like power menu returned!) |