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| 07:24.55 | flohack | Hi! I have a problem with Qi. I flashed the newest OM2009 onto NAND, including the provided Qi. It boots fine from NOR u-boot. Qi however switches on the red-light for about 1-2 seconds, vibrates and then sits there. No backlight, but the device is still on because another power button press does nothing. Any ideas? |
| 07:28.38 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 07:40.21 | flohack | is anyone using the newest om2009 with qi? |
| 07:40.41 | mirko-paroli | flohack: best guess is to ask mrmoku or nytowln |
| 07:41.40 | flohack | mirko-paroli: thanks, I'll wait for them |
| 07:41.52 | mirko-paroli | k |
| 07:42.27 | mirko-paroli | for mrmoku check openmoko-cdevel, I think the question in general will find more answers there |
| 07:42.37 | mirko-paroli | nytowl will come in the afternoon |
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| 07:46.10 | flohack | mirko-paroli: thanks mirko! |
| 07:46.57 | mirko-paroli | flohack: no prob |
| 07:47.08 | mirko-paroli | if you have questions about om2009/paroli join #paroli :) |
| 07:49.35 | flohack | mirko-paroli: I wish I could finally get around rewriting the ringing on/off part of FSO in C...then I could finally use OM as a phone :-) |
| 07:51.17 | mirko-paroli | flohack: why rewrite it ? |
| 07:51.38 | mirko-paroli | paroli handles that on om2009 so there shouldn't be any delay |
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| 07:51.59 | tomboy64 | hm |
| 07:52.08 | tomboy64 | 2009 is considered usable? |
| 07:52.21 | mirko-paroli | tomboy64: I am downloading today's unstables to test it |
| 07:52.41 | mirko-paroli | i think the one major prob is the suspending (resuspend after call) but that lies in the framework |
| 07:52.49 | mirko-paroli | maybe I can find a way to hack around it |
| 07:52.55 | mirko-paroli | apart from that it should be usable |
| 07:53.10 | flohack | mirko-paroli: At least on my phone it takes about up to 4 seconds from the other phone hearing the first ring before ringing starts on my OM |
| 07:53.34 | max_posedon | flohack, what about others phones? |
| 07:53.47 | max_posedon | this delay between 2 phones is regular thing |
| 07:53.59 | mirko-paroli | agrees with max_posedon |
| 07:54.44 | flohack | max_posedon: not really. I tried it with two sony ericssons and they have at most half a second delay. |
| 07:55.11 | mirko-paroli | flohack: parts of the problem is the time it takes to start playing the ringtone |
| 07:55.17 | flohack | and if you watch the FSO log, you can see that the new call indication shows up immediately, while ringing starts much later |
| 07:56.06 | max_posedon | yep, this is known problem, but not 4seconds, may be 2), anyway |
| 07:56.18 | flohack | I analysed that in FSO a few times and saw that about 2 seconds in sum are wasted between the message about a new call being generated by FSO and the other side (oeventd?) starting to act on it |
| 07:56.18 | max_posedon | rewriting in C won't help I think. |
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| 07:57.14 | flohack | I can't say anything about paroli, but compared to FSO I'm pretty sure it will help, as FSO shared one event loop with several subsystems which certainly introduces a lot of delay |
| 07:58.39 | max_posedon | hm... use concutopia!) |
| 07:58.46 | flohack | however, I reckon FSO is a great project, it just needs a bit more time to straighten out the implementation :-) |
| 07:58.59 | playya | fso is not a distro |
| 08:01.33 | flohack | playya: ? who stated that? |
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| 08:02.57 | playya | because you compared paroli and fso. just woke up :/ |
| 08:03.48 | playya | btw. can someone remove the the tichy recipe from oe? |
| 08:04.01 | mirko-paroli | playya: tichy is still being developed |
| 08:04.08 | mirko-paroli | I am sure charlie wouldn't be too happy |
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| 08:04.50 | max_posedon | playya, why you want remove anything?) better lose your time for creating smth) |
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| 08:12.04 | playya | mirko-paroli, then change the SRC_URI |
| 08:12.20 | mirko-paroli | playya: hehe it ain't my project ;) |
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| 08:15.36 | playya | sorry. had to restart E |
| 08:15.55 | mirko-paroli | playya: plus I don't have OE commit access :) |
| 08:16.17 | playya | but there are some in here |
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| 09:44.39 | Tanuva | I once created a folder on the illume desktop (right-click menu). everytime I click this folder, e17 crashes. any chance to remove that thing from config files? |
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| 10:42.02 | Tanuva | what does om2009 do what debian doesn't to get a gps fix THAT fast? |
| 10:42.56 | Weiss | does Debian have the AGPS upload bits? |
| 10:43.06 | Tanuva | don't know |
| 10:43.37 | Tanuva | does 2k9 download assist data without having gprs configured and without asking? or do you mean something else? |
| 10:44.20 | max_posedon | Tanuva, may be debian doesn't creatre pickle file for fso-gpsd? |
| 10:45.03 | max_posedon | gps on neo, always will do cold start(every boot) if you don't show him manually when he stopped previous time |
| 10:46.04 | Tanuva | hmmm |
| 10:47.38 | Tanuva | where would that pickle file be if it existed? |
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| 11:08.35 | DocScrutinizer | Tanuva: (what does om2009...) uses fso? ;-) |
| 11:10.08 | DocScrutinizer | Tanuva: ( where would that pickle file be ) whereever ogpsd creates and reads it |
| 11:10.20 | Psi | anyone know the specs for adding the 320x240 mode to xrandr? |
| 11:10.49 | playya | afair -s |
| 11:11.20 | Psi | -s 320x240 says 320x240 not found in available modes |
| 11:11.47 | Psi | there is a --newmode command but it needs all the clock/sync values |
| 11:11.50 | max_posedon | Psi, how you imaginate 320x240 on 480x640 ?! |
| 11:11.52 | mib_0cv2g5 | hi |
| 11:12.08 | max_posedon | I understand 240x320, but 320x240 ... |
| 11:12.16 | Psi | oh, well either will do |
| 11:12.50 | Psi | 240x320 isnt available either |
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| 11:25.06 | trigger_ | on the SHR project blog, there is an entry saying mokomaze should be in the repository, but I can't find it there. Do I have the wrong repository? |
| 11:25.56 | Ainulindale | Nah it's prolly because it didn't build. I'll regenerate it |
| 11:26.14 | trigger_ | sounds good |
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| 11:26.38 | trigger_ | havn't seen my accelerometers(hard to spell xD) in action yet |
| 11:27.21 | KenYoung | trigger_, Really? Why not just download it from opkg.org or the gForge site? |
| 11:28.18 | trigger_ | since there was one specially built for SHR apparently, just minor fixes, but still |
| 11:28.33 | Ainulindale | It might not even be installable. |
| 11:28.41 | Ainulindale | opkg dependencie are not the same at all than SHR dependencies |
| 11:28.47 | Ainulindale | Wait a minute trigger_ and it'll be there |
| 11:28.50 | Ainulindale | Are you using unstable? |
| 11:28.54 | trigger_ | yeah |
| 11:29.03 | Ainulindale | Ok perfect, then wait a minute and it'll be there :-) |
| 11:29.17 | KenYoung | That's service! |
| 11:29.23 | Ainulindale | We're there for that |
| 11:29.48 | Ainulindale | It's a bit long because we're rebuilding SHR from our OE branch now |
| 11:29.50 | Ainulindale | To test it |
| 11:30.03 | dns53 | mokomaze did not install yesterday when i tried |
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| 11:35.04 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4a0fa103bdc1 10/fsousaged/ (23 files in 7 dirs): fsousaged: add build skeleton |
| 11:35.05 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * recfba90820d0 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/controller/ (Makefile.am plugin.vala): fsousage: make it build |
| 11:35.06 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r10e8dc3b5a20 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/ (fsoframework-2.0.vapi interfaces.vala): fsoframework: interfaces: add usage service path |
| 11:36.52 | Ainulindale | trigger_: should be there |
| 11:36.52 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rb2b665c55028 10/docs/ogsmd/qualcomm_msm/urcs: docs: [QUALCOMM MSM] add +gkti urc |
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| 11:37.16 | F4t | YAY! i have my VM with with illume-shr fully looking like the moko! :D |
| 11:43.24 | trigger_ | Ainulindale: thanks a lot, works :D |
| 11:44.48 | Ainulindale | You're welcome |
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| 12:07.45 | khiraly1 | hmm |
| 12:07.57 | khiraly1 | how can I route the openmoko to the internet? |
| 12:08.10 | khiraly1 | it is only one command, and cant find in the history or wiki |
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| 12:09.24 | KenYoung | khiraly1, Are you trying to use WiFI, GPRS, or USB networking? |
| 12:09.31 | khiraly1 | usb networking |
| 12:10.00 | khiraly1 | sudo ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth1 |
| 12:10.06 | khiraly1 | ^^after I can ssh to the phone |
| 12:10.17 | khiraly1 | and there is a simple command to reout from the neo to the internet |
| 12:10.35 | max_posedon | khiraly1, usb networking guide also speaks about ip_forware and iptables |
| 12:10.52 | KenYoung | khiraly1, Have you tried pinging something on the internet from your phone? |
| 12:11.14 | KenYoung | khiraly1, What distribution are you using? |
| 12:11.19 | khiraly1 | hmm. I used to know the command, but not in bash history anymore |
| 12:11.29 | khiraly1 | it is one line |
| 12:11.31 | khiraly1 | ubuntu |
| 12:11.51 | KenYoung | khiraly1, Sorry, I meant what distribution on the OM phone? |
| 12:12.10 | khiraly1 | KenYoung: does not matter in fact. Really. |
| 12:12.19 | khiraly1 | om2009 or shr. All the two works |
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| 12:14.25 | KenYoung | khiraly1, You should not have to do anything with 2009 - what happens if you type "ping 208.67.222.222" on the phone? |
| 12:14.59 | khiraly1 | nothing. packet lost |
| 12:15.10 | khiraly1 | ok. I think you dont understand me. |
| 12:15.36 | KenYoung | khiraly1, I suspect the problem is on the Ubuntu end. |
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| 12:17.14 | KenYoung | khiraly1, Have you modified /etc/network/interfaces on the ubuntu machine? |
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| 12:21.25 | KenYoung | khiraly1, I use an Ubuntu laptop to put my Freerunner on the net via USB, and I found I needed to make the modifications to /etc/network/interfaces which are described on the page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking, but with the string "eth2" substituted for the string "usb0". |
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| 12:21.58 | KenYoung | khiraly1, I am running 2009v4, so my setup should be just like yours. |
| 12:22.45 | KenYoung | khiraly1, I can email you my file, if you'd like me to. |
| 12:27.10 | F4t | now i can finally develop shr apps in comfort: http://i41.tinypic.com/71phuf.jpg :D |
| 12:27.36 | Tanuva | DocScrutinizer: I have fso on debian, too :D |
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| 12:29.45 | max_posedon | F4t, this is just vmware with smth FSO-based on x86? |
| 12:30.35 | F4t | max_posedon, this is vmware, running slackware, with e17 and illume-shr profile with correct resolution and scaling... |
| 12:30.40 | F4t | running on x86 |
| 12:30.56 | F4t | with python bindings and all the other stuff |
| 12:31.23 | max_posedon | ok, not very interested for me |
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| 12:40.09 | DocScrutinizer | * DocScrutinizer is now known as DocMobilizer |
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| 12:46.39 | khiraly1 | F4t: it is *GREAT*! |
| 12:46.53 | khiraly1 | care to share the vmware image? |
| 12:47.05 | khiraly1 | I develop on the phone directly. IT is not that slow after all |
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| 12:51.56 | F4t | khiraly1, the image is huge (900 mb compressed), since it contains sources of e17... |
| 12:52.33 | khiraly1 | yeah need to share on some torrent sites |
| 12:52.41 | max_posedon | khiraly1, you using windows too? |
| 12:52.52 | max_posedon | because on linux systems you can just use Xnest |
| 12:52.55 | khiraly1 | max_posedon: no. Why I should be? |
| 12:53.07 | F4t | whats Xnest? |
| 12:53.22 | max_posedon | X in X server, |
| 12:53.26 | khiraly1 | max_posedon: having a ready-made vmware/virtualbox image is pretty nice |
| 12:53.39 | F4t | max_posedon, how does that help? |
| 12:53.46 | khiraly1 | needs almost zero time to set up |
| 12:54.12 | F4t | khiraly1, depends on how fast you download and uncompress the 900 mb :D |
| 12:54.24 | max_posedon | F4t, it will start 480x640 window as xserver, all other stuff you already can have on system. |
| 12:54.57 | F4t | all other stuff for x86 is not so trivial to get... |
| 12:55.22 | max_posedon | sorry, I don't see any reason for using your image on linux. |
| 12:55.28 | F4t | starting of xserver with 480x640 was the easy part.... just editing xorg.conf |
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| 12:55.41 | F4t | max_posedon, im no saying you should... |
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| 13:00.42 | khiraly1 | (14.55.23) max_posedon: sorry, I don't see any reason for using your image on linux. <-- it is easy to set up |
| 13:00.48 | khiraly1 | just download and run |
| 13:01.28 | max_posedon | 1, then configure ssh to it, 2. then configure networking, 3. may be vim/emacs |
| 13:01.42 | max_posedon | if at my system I can just run Xnest |
| 13:01.48 | max_posedon | sorry, still can't understand |
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| 13:06.53 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfd6b342d209a 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/transport.vala: fsotransport: catch up with the non-posix speed and v24 line constants |
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| 13:25.56 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r4d5e89cafdb3 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:25.56 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: org.freesmartphone.Usage: Add missing provider interface for resources: RegisterResource and UnregisterResource. |
| 13:25.56 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Also: Revert declaration of string marshalling through enums -- we can't use this in org.freesmartphone.Usage, |
| 13:25.56 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: since the names of the resource are not apriori known. There are some well-known names, but providers are |
| 13:26.00 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: free to chose any name they want. |
| 13:29.08 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * rb1238c9360c4 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix last remainder of fso:ResourceName |
| 13:37.39 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * r78a16a9feea2 10/src/freesmartphone.vala: refresh |
| 13:42.28 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * rdf35621453d4 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Usage: add missing parameter for RegisterResource |
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| 13:50.02 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * ra13f4e2e3c25 10/src/freesmartphone.vala: and refresh once again for ousage |
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| 13:59.18 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: a small vmware image would be fine nevertheless, for all the poor sufering Windoze users |
| 14:00.54 | DocScrutinizer | with preinstalled dfu-util, ip-masquerading + -forwarding, and a number of other goodies... :-) |
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| 14:26.27 | slaxxer\ | shr-unstable shows 0527 on the images yet the latest is o523 wassup with that,,, has there been an included update or something? |
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| 14:33.57 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03daveb * r5070 10/trunk/gta02-core/AUTHORS: |
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| 14:54.20 | dos1 | slaxxer\: hmm? |
| 14:54.28 | dos1 | which package? |
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| 15:25.54 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re59f15aef971 10/fsousaged/src/ (bin/Makefile.am plugins/controller/plugin.vala): fsousage: fix binary name |
| 15:25.56 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rb9f240d866cd 10/fsousaged/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:25.56 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: fsousage: Bummer! We can't use libfso-glib for the server implementation |
| 15:25.56 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: in cases where we do special tricks like dealing with the dbus sender name or (eventually) |
| 15:25.57 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: async processing. Need to think whether we can convey the additional information |
| 15:25.59 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: other than by modifying the method signature :( |
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| 15:38.29 | Ainulindale | Would anybody know whose this is? http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/d91bac1984ce1fb3faa70c2cc48115e2.png |
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| 15:55.03 | playya_ | Ainulindale, 1sec. maybe its related to someone on the ML |
| 15:55.49 | Ainulindale | Well I was looking for that too but didn't see it |
| 15:55.53 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * rc35f6336015c 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: opimd: SIM_Messages_FSO: fix crash when last part of split message isn't in inbox |
| 15:59.06 | playya_ | i thought it could be this http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2969146/Screenshot.png |
| 15:59.13 | playya_ | but its not affiliated |
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| 16:20.28 | mjr | anyone by the way noted in this context Canonical/Ubuntu porting the android vm to trad gnu/linux? |
| 16:20.46 | mjr | to be expected at some point somebody doing it, of course, but seems to be realizing |
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| 17:01.21 | slaxxer\ | any news on the release of shr?:) |
| 17:01.46 | Ainulindale | We're closing as many bugs as we can |
| 17:02.14 | slaxxer\ | great |
| 17:02.41 | slaxxer\ | a time frame? |
| 17:02.45 | slaxxer\ | no |
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| 17:03.31 | slaxxer\ | :) |
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| 17:07.11 | Ainulindale | slaxxer\: not for the time being sorry :-( |
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| 17:25.02 | Blu3 | is there a shr setting for double click speed? |
| 17:28.01 | DocMobilizer | i'd be interested in this as well |
| 17:28.28 | Blu3 | the default click speed needed right now is dang fast |
| 17:28.42 | Blu3 | difficult to do |
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| 17:31.14 | tschaka | is laszlo from mailing list in here? |
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| 17:41.23 | wurp|working | What's the best way to do bluetooth networking now? |
| 17:41.25 | wurp|working | My internet at home has been spotty and I'd like to use the neo as host via bt, with the neo connecting via gprs |
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| 18:36.59 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5071 10/trunk/gta02-core/kicad-patches/series: Dropped old-boost-build-fix.patch from series. Better to upgrade libboost. |
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| 19:55.51 | walkmoon | anyone can recommend on a distribution for the moko... |
| 19:56.48 | Blu3 | are you brand new to it? |
| 19:56.57 | Blu3 | SHR, unstable |
| 19:58.09 | walkmoon | well i am on shr |
| 19:58.22 | walkmoon | got alot of segmentation faluts... |
| 19:58.50 | max_posedon | walkmoon, are you sure that you use shr for your gta0x? |
| 19:59.03 | max_posedon | also, may be just try reflash |
| 19:59.05 | walkmoon | gta02 |
| 19:59.22 | walkmoon | the messages application gives me this error |
| 19:59.36 | walkmoon | phone log |
| 19:59.38 | walkmoon | too |
| 19:59.58 | max_posedon | reboot/reflash doesn't helps? |
| 20:00.09 | max_posedon | usually it happens when some problem with dbus |
| 20:00.12 | max_posedon | or gsm-dead |
| 20:00.12 | walkmoon | it is the third reflash |
| 20:00.20 | walkmoon | the gsm is dead |
| 20:00.31 | walkmoon | i didn't insert a sim card |
| 20:00.53 | walkmoon | lol |
| 20:00.58 | Blu3 | gsm sorta likes to have a sim card :) |
| 20:01.01 | walkmoon | why seg fault if no sim |
| 20:01.04 | walkmoon | lol |
| 20:01.09 | Blu3 | lack of error checking |
| 20:01.27 | walkmoon | oh ok |
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| 20:01.43 | walkmoon | what about the debian distro |
| 20:01.51 | walkmoon | looks good.. |
| 20:02.00 | walkmoon | is it worth the try? |
| 20:02.08 | Blu3 | haven't tried it |
| 20:02.09 | max_posedon | walkmoon, correct shr use fso which store all info at sim |
| 20:02.18 | max_posedon | so of course you have problems without sim) |
| 20:02.29 | walkmoon | ok |
| 20:02.35 | max_posedon | and why you even want start messages/phonelog |
| 20:02.41 | max_posedon | if you haven't sim inserted?) |
| 20:02.56 | walkmoon | i thought it is a program for email |
| 20:03.17 | max_posedon | no any email program in shr, as far as I know |
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| 20:03.36 | walkmoon | even om2008 had an email program.. |
| 20:04.27 | slaxxer\ | install it |
| 20:04.28 | Blu3 | use claws for your email |
| 20:04.31 | max_posedon | but shr doesn't |
| 20:04.46 | Blu3 | shr-* have claws |
| 20:04.51 | johnsu01 | I was going to look into packaging claws for shr since I was using that on debian.. has someone done it? |
| 20:05.18 | johnsu01 | is it there already and I'm just blind? |
| 20:05.33 | walkmoon | cool |
| 20:06.29 | walkmoon | what about the rotated |
| 20:06.37 | walkmoon | it is driving me crazy |
| 20:06.47 | ndnihil | yes claws is packaged |
| 20:07.14 | walkmoon | i took a look in the code, and set down with my physics teacher |
| 20:07.53 | johnsu01 | where is it packaged? opkg list _grep claws... |
| 20:07.55 | walkmoon | tring to improve the coordination on the device |
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| 20:08.03 | walkmoon | any suggestions? |
| 20:08.29 | Blu3 | root@nibbly-bits:~# opkg list|grep claws |
| 20:08.29 | Blu3 | claws-mail - 3.6.1-r1 - |
| 20:08.30 | Blu3 | claws-mail-dbg - 3.6.1-r1 - |
| 20:08.32 | johnsu01 | nothing in opkg list |grep mail either..? |
| 20:08.39 | johnsu01 | so I'm missing a feed? |
| 20:08.41 | Blu3 | i'm using -unstable |
| 20:08.53 | johnsu01 | okay, guess it's not in shr-testing |
| 20:08.54 | walkmoon | is there stable for shr anyway? |
| 20:10.27 | Blu3 | -unstable is the best these days |
| 20:10.45 | walkmoon | got a good repository? |
| 20:12.05 | Blu3 | /etc/opkg/unstable-all.conf:src/gz unstable-all http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/all |
| 20:12.05 | Blu3 | /etc/opkg/unstable-armv4t.conf:src/gz unstable-armv4t http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t |
| 20:12.05 | Blu3 | /etc/opkg/unstable-gta02.conf:src/gz unstable-gta02 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/om-gta02 |
| 20:13.02 | walkmoon | this is the standard repo? am i wrong? |
| 20:14.57 | slaxxer\ | yes,no |
| 20:16.06 | walkmoon | i think i had those already when i flash shr |
| 20:16.47 | Blu3 | opkg update? |
| 20:18.23 | walkmoon | what? |
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| 20:24.14 | walkmoon | thanks for the claws... |
| 20:24.20 | Blu3 | y/w |
| 20:24.42 | walkmoon | what is y/w? |
| 20:25.17 | max_posedon | "you are welcome" |
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| 20:25.56 | walkmoon | ok, cool |
| 20:27.23 | Blu3 | =] |
| 20:27.28 | Blu3 | is distracted |
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| 21:07.49 | badcloud | anyone know if someone has ported a program like usbmode for debian? |
| 21:07.49 | badcloud | for>to |
| 21:09.29 | SeligArkin | So, I made a decision about my neo freerunner |
| 21:09.39 | Blu3 | which is? |
| 21:09.50 | SeligArkin | It is just going to function as a simple computer for me, not going to try using it as a phone anymore |
| 21:10.03 | TAsn | SeligArkin, why? |
| 21:10.07 | TAsn | I use it as a daily phone |
| 21:10.09 | badcloud | SeligArkin, what's wrong with SHR testing? |
| 21:10.12 | badcloud | I do too |
| 21:10.15 | TAsn | quite annoying sometimes, though still, very cool :) |
| 21:10.23 | Blu3 | so do i |
| 21:10.47 | Blu3 | the phone calls/audio processes suck, but my main use is messaging |
| 21:10.48 | TAsn | The biggest issue I have is the call waiting |
| 21:10.51 | TAsn | -the |
| 21:11.01 | SeligArkin | I just dont have the time to get a dev environment setup, and debian, which 'just works' fo me, has horrivle phone support |
| 21:13.12 | SeligArkin | its a very nice device, I just can't deal with having to go through and delete every text message I get (I get min 4 a day now) else its memory fills |
| 21:13.44 | Blu3 | i understand opimd will offload that |
| 21:14.00 | Blu3 | so no more limitations due to the very tiny 30 slots on the sim card |
| 21:15.01 | TAsn | Blu3, 30? I have 20 :{ |
| 21:15.10 | TAsn | hehe, here it fills instantly. |
| 21:15.13 | Blu3 | :/ |
| 21:15.44 | SeligArkin | that and those 4 are all email-to-sms ones, sometimes long |
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| 21:16.00 | SeligArkin | on other phones it mashes them together, openmoko doesn't do that atm |
| 21:16.13 | Blu3 | mine will shortly |
| 21:16.40 | Blu3 | the problem i'm dealing with is figuring out what gets concatted when the csm_* bits aren't set |
| 21:17.09 | SeligArkin | I know under AT&T it has (1 of x) at the start of the first |
| 21:17.13 | SeligArkin | then (2 of x) |
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| 21:18.47 | Blu3 | not always true. if i send myself a long message, it's not guaranteed to come with csm bits |
| 21:18.55 | Blu3 | i use at&t/cingular |
| 21:19.08 | SeligArkin | They get prepended to the actual message body, for me it seems |
| 21:19.11 | Blu3 | i see 2/2 on the tail, but no 1/2 on the head |
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| 21:53.58 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r3c985d5fe125 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Usage: and declare the error we can throw in RequestResource |
| 21:53.59 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r0a08844fc418 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Usage: introduce enumeration for policy |
| 21:54.43 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rfa4eb4fed7dd 10/src/freesmartphone.vala: refresh |
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| 22:17.32 | KungFuJesus | hello, for flashing to om2009, what do I do with the modules tarball? Is it necessary to transfer that to the gta02 before I attempt to boot w/the new kernel? |
| 22:17.41 | gustavold | Is it possible to see the operator's menu? I'm using shr testing |
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| 22:26.17 | wurp2|gone | KungFuJesus: You can unzip it to the root of your neo |
| 22:26.29 | wurp2|gone | It just gives you some more modules you can modprobe |
| 22:27.01 | KungFuJesus | wurp2|gone: why wouldn't you just build them into the kernel? |
| 22:27.04 | wurp2|gone | I don't think you need any of them now, but it's not big enough to be a problem if you install it |
| 22:27.16 | wurp2|gone | Because you downloaded the stock kernel ;-) |
| 22:27.18 | KungFuJesus | and what did they feel didn't need drivers for first boot? |
| 22:27.36 | wurp2|gone | Look in the zipfile and you'll see |
| 22:27.48 | KungFuJesus | also, does updating the firmware have an adverse affects? |
| 22:27.53 | KungFuJesus | effects* |
| 22:28.11 | wurp2|gone | It shouldn't |
| 22:28.21 | wurp2|gone | gustavold: What do you mean by operator's menu? |
| 22:29.23 | wurp2|gone | sorry, must actually be |gone in about a minute |
| 22:29.24 | mjr | I think he means the sim thing stuff that has low-level support in recent gsm firmwares (IIRC) but not really implemented |
| 22:30.12 | KungFuJesus | wow, 89MB firmware image, lol |
| 22:30.15 | wurp2|gone | mickeyterm? |
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| 22:31.24 | linuxxr | shr-unstable sound is broken |
| 22:31.36 | linuxxr | after opkg upgrade |
| 22:31.50 | linuxxr | ringer still works |
| 22:33.13 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7449e62fefde 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/utilities.vala: fsoframework: utilities: add framework for string list size = 0 |
| 22:33.15 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4e610eefdad7 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/controller/plugin.vala: fsousaged: controller: request/release done for simple cases |
| 22:33.18 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r0651de9057e9 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/controller/plugin.vala: fsousaged: controller: basic functionality done |
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| 23:51.40 | KungFuJesus | wow...why is om2009 so butt-slow? |
| 23:52.14 | KungFuJesus | I mean I was annoyed by how buggy the 2008 interfaces were (i.e. crashing on the SMS interface if the notifier failed to pop up) but it's almost irritating typing on this |
| 23:53.21 | KenYoung | KungFuJesus, I think the fact that Python is used so extensively accounts for some of the sluggishness. |
| 23:54.01 | KenYoung | KungFuJesus, Rumor has it they plan to rewrite some of the critical code in C later on. |
| 23:54.09 | KungFuJesus | I hope so |
| 23:54.31 | KungFuJesus | I was pumped that 2009 was slated to come out in the coming months |
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| 23:55.05 | KungFuJesus | I must say the idea of keeping consistant contact info on the uSD was finally some forward thinking, though |
| 23:55.21 | KenYoung | KungFuJesus, There are some good points to 2009. It's natural to just notice the parts which are slower at first. |
| 23:56.26 | KungFuJesus | eeww, busybox tar, lol. Gotta gunzip first |
