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| 00:51.05 | trigger_ | My wifi seems to struggle, is there some better resource than the wiki? |
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| 03:58.47 | KenYoung | Does USB networking operate differently than it did under 2008.x, and 2007.x? I just flashed OM2009, but cannot ssh into the phone. I never had that problem before with earlier OM stacks. |
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| 04:15.02 | KenYoung | Does USB networking operate differently under OM2009 than it did under 2008.x, and 2007.x? I just flashed OM2009, but cannot ssh into the phone. I never had that problem before with earlier OM stacks. |
| 04:15.39 | mwester | KenYoung, yes -- Qi uses the official USB mac address for the neo, and most distros have recently switched to using the official mac addresses even if you do not use Qi. Most hosts will respond differntly to a random MAC vs an officail one -- see if your host now assigns a persistent ethN interface instead of the usb0 interface it used to. |
| 04:16.48 | KenYoung | mwester, THanks for the pointer! |
| 04:17.57 | slaxxer | eth2 here") |
| 04:26.29 | KenYoung | slaxxer, mwester Yup, eth2 for me too. Thanks again. |
| 04:28.06 | mwester | Cool. You might find that this change will make it work with Network Managers on your host a bit easier; the eth2 interface is for that Neo alone (any other USB networking device will get usb0, or another ethN). |
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| 07:44.24 | thrashold | I hope someone fucks Firefox authors in their ass |
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| 07:48.10 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 07:59.06 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5051 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/fa2012.lib: Fix pin numbering and naming of filter pins according to ACXC datasheet |
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| 08:09.24 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5052 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (components/vibrator.lib gta02-core.pro): Add vibrator (generic) with alias |
| 08:09.51 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5053 10/trunk/gta02-core/AUTHORS: Update AUTHORS to depict new components |
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| 08:30.14 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5056 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (components/smsn16-02-c.lib gta02-core.pro): Add SIM/SDCARD connector |
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| 09:02.35 | badcloud | mornin |
| 09:02.43 | beer_ | hi |
| 09:03.07 | beer_ | di you remember to do you morning hack? |
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| 09:23.03 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * ra409cf754873 10/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am): |
| 09:23.03 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Remove last references to libvala |
| 09:23.03 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
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| 09:25.00 | badcloud | beer_, ? |
| 09:25.03 | badcloud | I guess not |
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| 09:30.26 | beer_ | bad bad bac cluod. Can you go back and make you morning hack, just like every one else: Breakfest, brushing teeth, morning hack, work |
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| 09:37.53 | badcloud | be be be beer_, I can only cover the first two and the last one |
| 09:38.28 | badcloud | have you brushed and flossed yourself? |
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| 10:03.37 | beer_ | yes I have and my morning hack covered duel boot of my FR with Fyp and adnroid |
| 10:04.39 | dns53 | can android be booted off the card or only by flashing it? |
| 10:06.22 | beer_ | atm I have android on the sd card |
| 10:06.49 | dns53 | cool |
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| 10:07.12 | dns53 | so how do you get that? where are the images |
| 10:07.22 | dns53 | just kulu? |
| 10:07.40 | beer_ | I cannot remeber where I did find it. Was using google |
| 10:10.21 | beer_ | btw androdid@FR is not good enough. There are still problem with sound qvality (and it is not only the buzz anf ekko. It is even worse) |
| 10:11.15 | dns53 | can you enter a wifi key and bluetooth pins? the onscreen keyboard did not work when i used it so it was kind of useless |
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| 10:15.24 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r5ac915068723 10/libfsoframework/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: utilities: add EventFd class wrapping Linux26.eventfd |
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| 10:19.19 | beer_ | I can enter wifi-SSID but I have problems with bluethoot (it will not start/hangs when I am telling the phone to turn on bt, I have always problem with that tech no mather what phone/device I am using). |
| 10:26.14 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r820fba99c4d8 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/alsa_audio/plugin.vala: |
| 10:26.15 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: fsodevice: use eventfd mechanism for signalizing sound repetition. As per libcanberra |
| 10:26.15 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: docs, the finishing callback can be called from whatever stack frame or thread, so |
| 10:26.15 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: we have to use eventfd in order to prevent deadlocks. |
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| 11:34.00 | trigger_ | for SHR, can/should i use a repository for FSO? |
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| 11:38.21 | Ainulindale | what do you mean? |
| 11:40.34 | dns53 | i've had problems with third party repo's but it's worth a try |
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| 11:47.41 | Tanuva | can I somehow access the /var/log/lastlog on om2009? it's always empty atm... °° |
| 11:48.25 | lindi- | Tanuva: size is zero? |
| 11:49.03 | dns53 | it's disabled or rotated because it causes a lot of writes to the system |
| 11:49.14 | lindi- | dns53: how can you rotate lastlog? |
| 11:49.30 | Tanuva | size is 1, there's one line in it: "��pts/3::ffff:192.168.0.200" |
| 11:49.46 | lindi- | Tanuva: that line has more than one character, thus size can not be 1 |
| 11:50.18 | Tanuva | the problem behind it: when I plug the neo into a pc ;) while g_file_storage is loaded I get a kernel panic |
| 11:50.29 | Tanuva | lindi-: but according to ls -l, size is 1 |
| 11:50.31 | Ainulindale | Tanuva: use "last" |
| 11:50.33 | lindi- | Tanuva: what's the panic message? |
| 11:50.40 | Tanuva | lindi-: that's what I want to find out |
| 11:50.54 | Tanuva | I don't know another way than lastlog on kernel panics... |
| 11:51.08 | lindi- | Tanuva: lastlog does not contain kernel panics |
| 11:51.26 | lindi- | Tanuva: lastlog tells you when somebody has logged in to the system |
| 11:51.49 | lindi- | Tanuva: search for ramconsole in bugs.openmoko.org on how to capture panics |
| 11:52.06 | Tanuva | ah. thanks :) |
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| 11:54.31 | trigger_ | is there a finger-friendly keyboard? There is one on the wiki, but all the links are dead |
| 11:55.01 | lindi- | trigger_: depends on what that means |
| 11:55.40 | dns53 | raster's illume one works fine |
| 11:56.08 | trigger_ | dns53: the one that comes with SHR? |
| 11:56.14 | dns53 | yes |
| 11:56.30 | dns53 | the word prediction is fine |
| 11:56.33 | lindi- | dns53: but it isn't wm-independent :( |
| 11:57.04 | trigger_ | I actually use that now, but I would like a more finger friendly version |
| 11:57.24 | trigger_ | haven't really used the prediction-keyboard tho |
| 11:59.08 | Blu3 | the word prediction keyboard is slow and doesn't know half of the words i use |
| 11:59.42 | Blu3 | i use a lot of punctuation symbols and numbers as well |
| 12:00.02 | trigger_ | It doesn't seem to have backspace, or ctrl :/ |
| 12:01.56 | Blu3 | slide your finger from right to left over it, it'll backspace and delete the previous char |
| 12:02.04 | Blu3 | that one got me for a while |
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| 12:02.58 | trigger_ | actually just read that xD |
| 12:05.33 | Tanuva | lindi-: do I understand correctly that I have to build my own kernel with that patch and then somehow get the message from ram? |
| 12:05.46 | lindi- | Tanuva: yep |
| 12:06.48 | Tanuva | ouch... |
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| 13:11.17 | skamster | ehm, if someone here does know vala.. i had a problem with it. |
| 13:11.33 | skamster | i use monodevelop as ide and everything works |
| 13:12.30 | skamster | so i also bind in mokoui2, but there's a error-message which said "no mokoui.vapi in /home/username/documents/" |
| 13:12.47 | skamster | but i never "said" anything about /home/username/documents |
| 13:13.12 | skamster | i just bind in libmokoui like all the other classes (gtk as example..) |
| 13:13.19 | skamster | had someone a idea? |
| 13:13.51 | skamster | (it's in kubuntu 9.04, just for the gui-developing) |
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| 13:17.32 | dns53 | try i cdevel or wait for raster |
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| 14:12.14 | max_posedon | Can NeoFreerunner battary be recalibrated? Mine woks ~10min after zero status. |
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| 14:14.32 | dns53 | i've got that kind of bug, stick qtopia in and change distro and it reports it wrong |
| 14:16.15 | max_posedon | I think its battary(hardware issue), so.... want maybe recalibrate |
| 14:24.39 | alphaone | max_posedon: That's the coloumb counter inside the battery. It recalibrates itself so if you let it run completely empty multiple times it should slowly adjust |
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| 14:27.04 | max_posedon | ok, thanks |
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| 14:49.27 | DocScrutinizer | though that means DO NOT shutdown when CC reaches 0% ;-) |
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| 14:49.59 | DocScrutinizer | alphaone: FSO is wrong here :-) |
| 14:50.14 | alphaone | DocScrutinizer: Yes |
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| 14:50.50 | alphaone | DocScrutinizer: But we need a kobject notification then as soon as the PCF sends the lowbat interrupt |
| 14:50.55 | alphaone | then we can listen to that |
| 14:51.06 | DocScrutinizer | with recent patch you probably could stick a paper between bat contact 2 and contactspring ;-D |
| 14:51.09 | alphaone | or we just monitor the voltage for the time being |
| 14:51.27 | DocScrutinizer | alphaone: (kobj notify) correct |
| 14:52.03 | DocScrutinizer | alphaone: PMU should generate an IRQ for that purpose. Dunno how kernel handles that though |
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| 14:53.04 | DocScrutinizer | (paper) thus mimicing a gta01/nokia bat |
| 14:53.44 | alphaone | DocScrutinizer: yeah |
| 14:53.48 | DocScrutinizer | or you simply kill frameworkd, and let bat run down then ;-D |
| 14:54.17 | DocScrutinizer | (that's what I did) |
| 14:54.59 | alphaone | hehe |
| 14:55.05 | alphaone | just remove that rule |
| 14:55.13 | DocScrutinizer | I easily can recover from drained bat though - I don't recommend this for ppl with "doesn't boot" issue |
| 14:55.15 | alphaone | it's stupid anyway (imho) |
| 14:55.19 | alphaone | hmm |
| 14:55.27 | Ainulindale | My friends are asking me if I changed phones |
| 14:55.30 | alphaone | I never had issues with drained bat |
| 14:55.35 | Ainulindale | So I guess that's kudos for alphaone |
| 14:55.43 | alphaone | Ainulindale: Buzzes more now? ;-) |
| 14:55.47 | DocScrutinizer | Ainulindale: hehe |
| 14:55.56 | Ainulindale | Nah it's working nicely (with a custom alsa state) |
| 14:56.00 | alphaone | great |
| 14:56.09 | DocScrutinizer | *custom* o.O |
| 14:56.19 | Ainulindale | DocScrutinizer: what? |
| 14:56.22 | DocScrutinizer | what did you customize? |
| 14:56.34 | Ainulindale | well Mic2 & Speaker mostly |
| 14:56.45 | Ainulindale | To a setting I found comfortable |
| 14:56.55 | DocScrutinizer | could you report to me (maybe send statefile)? |
| 14:57.16 | Ainulindale | well ptitjes mailed his to shr-user and as he followed my advices... (hopefully) |
| 14:57.22 | Ainulindale | You might want to check that :-) |
| 14:57.34 | DocScrutinizer | I'm always interested in statefiles ppl find to work for them |
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| 14:58.45 | Sargun_screen | Whoa, what the hell |
| 14:59.42 | DocScrutinizer | alphaone: (never issue w bat) probably you only own A6 and beyond? ;-) |
| 15:00.00 | alphaone | DocScrutinizer: Even on non-MP A5 |
| 15:00.12 | DocScrutinizer | duh, amazing |
| 15:00.46 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, down to 364 tiles left for DL, on tagogps |
| 15:01.08 | DocScrutinizer | didamdidamdidam |
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| 15:01.32 | DocScrutinizer | GPRS stable this time at least, it seems |
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| 15:11.13 | Sargun_screen | DocScrutinizer: are you still hired? |
| 15:11.29 | DocScrutinizer | not for a long time |
| 15:11.33 | Ainulindale | He has been hired by the German Unemployment Company |
| 15:11.42 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
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| 15:11.45 | DocScrutinizer | correct |
| 15:11.48 | Sargun_screen | ah, ok. |
| 15:11.57 | Sargun_screen | He was fired in the first firings. |
| 15:12.11 | Sargun_screen | You have any insight into what happened? |
| 15:12.12 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 15:12.20 | DocScrutinizer | not exactly |
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| 15:12.57 | DocScrutinizer | seems the "lean line" continues at OM |
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| 15:18.54 | Sargun_screen | DocScrutinizer: wanna tell us what project B is? |
| 15:18.59 | Sargun_screen | er, plan b |
| 15:19.09 | alphaone | Hehe |
| 15:19.30 | badcloud | plan b is a portable pong console |
| 15:19.36 | DocScrutinizer | heh, I told you zillion times: IT'S A TOASTER |
| 15:19.59 | Sargun_screen | badcloud: that seems reasonabe. |
| 15:20.01 | Sargun_screen | reasonable. |
| 15:20.02 | Sargun_screen | :-P |
| 15:20.16 | badcloud | that makes more sense, since it's gonna be Sean's bread 'n' butter |
| 15:20.25 | badcloud | staga *dish* |
| 15:20.56 | badcloud | but I'm not sure what could be more universally needed than a cell phone |
| 15:21.12 | badcloud | so I'm not sure how well whatever-it-is will market |
| 15:21.57 | badcloud | I mean, I think I've met one person in my life who wasn't under 8 years of age who doesn't have or want one |
| 15:22.02 | badcloud | (mobile phone) |
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| 15:22.28 | Sargun_screen | well, an open cellular phone |
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| 15:23.01 | badcloud | but that's (from what I understood) not going to be plan b |
| 15:23.23 | badcloud | didn't he say they're putting cellular hardware "on the shelf"? |
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| 15:23.44 | Sargun_screen | yeah |
| 15:23.55 | Sargun_screen | He said they'll say it sometime in June |
| 15:24.07 | badcloud | I see |
| 15:24.26 | badcloud | I'm not sure how much better this will sell than say, the Beagleboard |
| 15:24.44 | DocScrutinizer | it's a *toaster* |
| 15:24.47 | DocScrutinizer | it's a *toaster* |
| 15:24.50 | DocScrutinizer | it's a *toaster* |
| 15:24.52 | SpeedEvil | It's a cookbook! |
| 15:25.13 | SpeedEvil | 'to serve the community' |
| 15:25.20 | Guest23485 | nope plan b is a new dot |
| 15:25.37 | badcloud | Guest23485, what? |
| 15:25.54 | DocScrutinizer | whats a newdot? |
| 15:26.09 | Guest23485 | nothing. was trying to be funny |
| 15:26.29 | badcloud | hmmm, don't give up |
| 15:27.44 | badcloud | I think if he can present something that shows just as much promise to the devs as it does to the average user, then he's got a hit |
| 15:28.14 | badcloud | otherwise it's just another techie gadget |
| 15:28.39 | badcloud | and there are PLENTY of those on sale already |
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| 15:28.55 | Sargun_screen | which was the probem with the free runner. |
| 15:29.17 | badcloud | that and buzz issues I think |
| 15:29.43 | badcloud | + gps/sd interference |
| 15:30.47 | badcloud | but Sean seems like an incredibly smart and imaginative guy, I'm sure he thought something great up |
| 15:31.55 | Sargun_screen | Sean also seems like he's used a lot of pot. |
| 15:32.06 | badcloud | but then again, I'd really like some toast right now |
| 15:32.23 | badcloud | Sargun, yeah, he's got the modern hippie thing going on too |
| 15:32.51 | DocScrutinizer | fsck!! tangogps stalled (err actually gprs) when dl the tiles of my current position. now I finished dl of map +4zoom (25MB, >1k tiles) and still got white terra-incognita around my current location :-((( Seems tangoGPS should somehow implement integrity check for tiles in cache |
| 15:33.21 | badcloud | but I think that also keeps him more focused on the real core of his intentions |
| 15:33.27 | badcloud | you know? |
| 15:33.36 | badcloud | not overthinking |
| 15:34.00 | badcloud | just feeling and carrying out, almost from instinct |
| 15:34.12 | Sargun_screen | badcloud: though, it's kind of cool. |
| 15:34.17 | badcloud | what is? |
| 15:34.26 | Sargun_screen | the modern-hippie. |
| 15:34.56 | badcloud | yeah, I'd love to be able to pull off that oriental jacket that he wore |
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| 15:35.14 | badcloud | when he talked about the fr and project b |
| 15:35.42 | Sargun_screen | oh, when they announced they laid a bunch of people off |
| 15:35.56 | badcloud | can't remember |
| 15:36.00 | badcloud | hold on, I'll find it |
| 15:36.26 | badcloud | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFuwhPXYxxI |
| 15:37.53 | Sargun_screen | Can't watch that right now |
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| 15:38.04 | Sargun_screen | tethered over EV-DO |
| 15:38.20 | Sargun_screen | cannot wait to purchase a palm pre |
| 15:39.49 | badcloud | ev-do? |
| 15:40.03 | Sargun_screen | the "other" wireless data standard |
| 15:40.18 | dcordes | in cdma land |
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| 15:40.24 | Sargun_screen | (not GSM/GPRS/EDGE/HPA) |
| 15:40.29 | Sargun_screen | yes, the better one. |
| 15:40.37 | badcloud | ah |
| 15:40.53 | badcloud | usb host? |
| 15:41.05 | Sargun_screen | huh? |
| 15:41.21 | badcloud | can it function as the host end in a usb connection, like the fr can |
| 15:41.23 | badcloud | ? |
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| 15:42.37 | dcordes | badcloud, mr moss-pultz wears an interesting coat in that video |
| 15:43.02 | badcloud | that's what I was referring to |
| 15:43.05 | Sargun_screen | nope, it cannot. |
| 15:43.06 | badcloud | looks oriental |
| 15:43.06 | Sargun_screen | sadly. |
| 15:43.46 | dcordes | badcloud, oh. didn't read all of the scrollback |
| 15:43.46 | badcloud | that's why I still choose the fr. the idea behind it probably won't be replicated in any big company device |
| 15:43.50 | badcloud | ah |
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| 15:44.34 | badcloud | since most companies are bent on controlling everything and getting paid for every little detail |
| 15:44.36 | Guest23485 | gonna try fso paroli 2008 from 21 may. Hopefully it will work this time |
| 15:44.55 | badcloud | milestone 5? |
| 15:45.09 | badcloud | anyone one know how much longer until 5.5? |
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| 15:48.00 | badcloud | Guest23485, what distro are you using currently? |
| 15:48.04 | slaxxer | u using uboot or Qi in this attempt |
| 15:48.09 | slaxxer | ? |
| 15:48.59 | Guest23485 | I was using fyp. |
| 15:49.31 | Guest23485 | I want to use uboot since I have heard that Qi is not matured |
| 15:49.50 | Guest23485 | last time I was trying 2009 it could not boot |
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| 15:55.13 | badcloud | fyp? |
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| 15:56.17 | Guest23485 | Debian on Freerunner |
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| 15:56.35 | badcloud | ah |
| 15:56.41 | Guest23485 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neovento <- can se that they got a new name |
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| 15:57.42 | badcloud | how has fyp been for you, Guest23485? |
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| 15:58.42 | badcloud | also, just for my common knowledge, if for some reason I can't boot using u-boot, is the debug board the only way to go in terms of fixing it? |
| 15:59.05 | Guest23485 | prior to 5 it worked nicely/speedy, but with version 5 I have trouble calling and they have change to a ugly theme |
| 15:59.14 | badcloud | I see |
| 15:59.19 | mwester | badcloud, just boot to NOR and you should be able to reflash your bootloader. |
| 15:59.58 | badcloud | I did |
| 16:00.21 | badcloud | but then u-boot seems to hang on some of the NOR text |
| 16:00.32 | badcloud | as if it doesn't even start |
| 16:00.37 | badcloud | qi works without a hitch |
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| 16:01.56 | badcloud | not quite sure where the problem starts |
| 16:02.30 | badcloud | I could try again now and describe if that's of any interest or point |
| 16:03.39 | badcloud | which version of u-boot works well with shr-testing? |
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| 16:04.57 | badcloud | anyone? |
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| 16:06.12 | dos1 | about Project B |
| 16:06.39 | CVirus | what about it ? |
| 16:06.50 | dos1 | i will be really disappointed, if it's not a toaster :( |
| 16:06.52 | dos1 | ;) |
| 16:10.57 | Weiss | a Red Dwarf style Talkie Toaster? |
| 16:13.05 | Guest23485 | does someone know how well it goes with working on qt extended imprvoed? Is it dead? |
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| 16:14.59 | badcloud | what's your main attraction to qt? |
| 16:15.58 | Guest23485 | to me it seems to be the most polished distro |
| 16:16.10 | badcloud | shr comes pretty damn cloes |
| 16:16.12 | badcloud | *close |
| 16:16.26 | badcloud | qt to me really defeats the purpose of the phone |
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| 16:16.58 | badcloud | have you tried shr testing, April 14? |
| 16:17.22 | Guest23485 | I have tried to use HSR testing from the 3th of may but to may programes crahses |
| 16:17.46 | Guest23485 | and I could not read SMS's |
| 16:18.20 | Guest23485 | badcloud: what is the problem of qt since "defeats the purpose of the phone"? |
| 16:18.30 | Guest23485 | qt is open/free |
| 16:18.51 | badcloud | really? I thought it was the opposite with qt |
| 16:18.55 | badcloud | nm then :P |
| 16:19.01 | badcloud | gotta get my sources straight |
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| 16:19.37 | beer__ | nope. since nokia stoped working on it, someone else did take over and calls it qt exptened improved |
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| 16:20.46 | beer__ | but there are some "problems" with it. They are not using standarts linux components (eks X11). At leat I was told that |
| 16:21.35 | badcloud | nice |
| 16:21.45 | badcloud | (that it's been dropped by nokia) |
| 16:22.02 | beer__ | but the git repo of qt has been not the most so busy latly. So that is why I was asking if someone know if it i a dead project like fdom |
| 16:22.09 | beer__ | why is that nice? |
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| 16:27.21 | badcloud | because it seemed pretty closed source when it belonged to nokia |
| 16:27.55 | beer__ | qt is open source |
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| 16:28.19 | beer__ | under both gpl and lgpl |
| 16:28.45 | badcloud | from the getgo? |
| 16:28.47 | badcloud | ok |
| 16:28.52 | beer__ | so I do not think it is nice |
| 16:29.21 | badcloud | well, then I place my faith in your opinion since you obviously know more about it than i do |
| 16:29.32 | badcloud | u-boot status: flashed http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitrd9daa95bffa9bcfecf49a53e5ebd5e2de6ed058d-r1.bin |
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| 16:29.53 | badcloud | on startup, I only see the word 'poweroff' at the topleft corner of the screen |
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| 16:30.41 | badcloud | and some odd recurring colored lines going horizontally across the second upper half of the screen |
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| 16:32.50 | badcloud | 'poweroff' probably being what NOR displayed last |
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| 16:38.54 | zogg_ | um |
| 16:39.10 | zogg_ | GPS doesnt work in OM2009? |
| 16:39.25 | zogg_ | trying latest release4 |
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| 16:39.54 | zogg_ | shouldnt cat /dev/ttySAC1 produce something? |
| 16:40.43 | SpeedEvil | what hardware |
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| 16:42.00 | zogg_ | How do i find that out? Whats written under the battery? |
| 16:42.56 | mwester | gta02 or gta01? |
| 16:43.04 | mwester | you should know that ;-) |
| 16:43.56 | zogg_ | Sorry, GTA02. Thought you want something more specific. :) |
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| 16:49.45 | zogg_ | /dev/ttySAC1 stays silent neither with gspd, nor with fso-gpsd |
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| 16:59.23 | PBeck | ahoi |
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| 17:01.21 | badcloud | hey there Becky |
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| 18:15.54 | digger3 | Hi, I would like to use illume on my media centre (1024x768), is this doable without having to modify themes and so on? |
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| 18:38.29 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5057 10/trunk/gta02-core/kicad-patches/series: arc exports have been accepted in KiCad mainline. |
| 18:40.08 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5058 10/trunk/gta02-core/kicad-patches/series: |
| 18:40.08 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Given that KiCad alread has partial overline support, the whole auto-overline |
| 18:40.08 | CIA-53 | openmoko: idea isn't so attractive anymore. Removed from series, will remove patches |
| 18:40.08 | CIA-53 | openmoko: when cleaning up. |
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| 18:42.16 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5059 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Updated FA2012 in compilation and added to expanded view. |
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| 18:54.34 | dos1 | digger3: yep, it should work |
| 18:54.54 | dos1 | digger3: i had Illume working good on my 1280x800 desktop |
| 18:54.59 | dos1 | (for testing) |
| 18:56.39 | F4t | can i generally rant about linux here? dont have anywhere else to vent.... |
| 18:57.29 | F4t | :) |
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| 19:37.00 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5060 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (23 files in 4 dirs): |
| 19:37.00 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Renamed the three small logic chips and id the usual updates: |
| 19:37.00 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 74aup1g00 -> 74x1g00 |
| 19:37.00 | CIA-53 | openmoko: sn74aup1g125 -> 74x1g125 |
| 19:37.00 | CIA-53 | openmoko: sn74lvc2g126 -> 74x2g126 |
| 19:39.20 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * ra4ba5e7d77f0 10fso-monitord/src/monitor.vala: splited iteration over dbus into methods |
| 19:39.21 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r104d3601889f 10fso-monitord/ (Makefile.am src/monitor.vala): |
| 19:39.21 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Switch to static dbus for org.free[smartphone|desktop}.DBus |
| 19:39.21 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Frederik 'playya' Sdun <Frederik.Sdun@googlemail.com> |
| 19:39.23 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07fso-monitord * r6fa238c3a058 10/ (Makefile.am src/fso.vala src/monitor.vala): Restart by BusName not by Daemon name |
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| 20:04.36 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Forgot the _5 suffix of 74x1g00_5. Renamed it and moved label a bit. |
| 20:04.36 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Also fixed the names of the library file variables in gta02-core.pro |
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| 20:27.08 | mihairu | hi all...i have a question...is a software fix of GPS in kernel of OM2008.12? |
| 20:28.10 | max_posedon | I think you shouldn't use OM2008 at all. |
| 20:28.57 | mihairu | max_posedon...and what i should use? |
| 20:29.26 | max_posedon | shr or om2009 (I prefer shr, but may be om2009 better for you) |
| 20:30.09 | mihairu | mmm maybe i'll give a try to shr...but om2009 is very buggy |
| 20:31.02 | max_posedon | I use shr+neo as every-day-phone since January, like it |
| 20:31.25 | max_posedon | of cource bugs presents, but they doesn't make it unusable |
| 20:31.47 | mihairu | i'll see |
| 20:32.05 | mihairu | so...and on shr is GPS SW fix? :) |
| 20:33.55 | max_posedon | gps rock stable for me |
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| 20:50.08 | neo_user42 | hackable is amazing! |
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| 20:52.59 | badcloud | yeah, it's not bad |
| 20:53.20 | badcloud | though my experience with it in terms of battery life has been poor |
| 20:55.04 | neo_user42 | and which distro provides better battery economy? |
| 20:55.14 | badcloud | shr |
| 20:55.25 | badcloud | (from my own experience, of course) |
| 20:55.45 | spaetz | I really wonder why shr would give better battery life |
| 20:55.58 | badcloud | me too |
| 20:56.17 | spaetz | I don't doubt your observerations, but I wonder what should make the difference |
| 20:56.40 | badcloud | I never thought you did doubt, spaetz |
| 20:56.44 | badcloud | thanks :) |
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| 21:01.53 | max_posedon | spaetz, may be because really working auto suspend/auto dimming? |
| 21:02.14 | max_posedon | 1. timeouts for this actions really important |
| 21:02.22 | max_posedon | 2. really important if they really work |
| 21:03.38 | max_posedon | 3. disabled gps/wifi/bluetooth after start |
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| 21:04.48 | BogdanR | What is better for daily use phone: testing or unstable? |
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| 21:05.17 | badcloud | testing |
| 21:05.18 | max_posedon | I think unstable |
| 21:05.19 | badcloud | April 14 |
| 21:05.25 | badcloud | hmmm |
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| 21:11.50 | digger3 | dos1: thanks |
| 21:12.51 | BogdanR | So does SHR have a repo? |
| 21:13.07 | BogdanR | I would like to add more applications to SHR |
| 21:14.17 | slaxxer | opkg.org |
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| 21:18.53 | BogdanR | Thanks you |
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| 21:21.42 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5062 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (21 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:21.42 | CIA-53 | openmoko: Renamed smsn16-02-c to smsn16, added smsn16, mini_usb_b, and vibrator to |
| 21:21.42 | CIA-53 | openmoko: the usual places. Small changes: |
| 21:21.42 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - smsn16: made MCLK Input, not Power In |
| 21:21.43 | CIA-53 | openmoko: - mini_usb_b: changes Power In to Power Out and D+/D- from Passive to |
| 21:21.45 | CIA-53 | openmoko: BiDi |
| 21:24.03 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5063 10/trunk/gta02-core/scripts/all-sheets-ps: Added new sheet SD-SIM (cards.sch) |
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| 22:00.02 | mihairu | guys what i must set on SHR for usb networking on freerunner? with OM2008.12 without problem :/ |
| 22:00.27 | max_posedon | mihairu, all is exactly same |
| 22:00.40 | max_posedon | except that your host use eth1, instead usb0 |
| 22:00.56 | mihairu | max_posedon...hmm it didnt work :/ |
| 22:01.20 | max_posedon | reattach new and show latest lines from dmesg plz |
| 22:03.10 | mihairu | http://pastebin.com/d77c843da |
| 22:03.59 | BogdanR | Can someone tell me where I can get libs like libsdl for SHR? |
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| 22:04.37 | max_posedon | mihairu, so, I see eth1 in logs(as expected) |
| 22:04.46 | max_posedon | what problems you have in this case? |
| 22:05.21 | mihairu | i set ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 22:05.33 | mihairu | but i cant ping neo |
| 22:08.01 | SpeedEvil | isn;t it 1.200? |
| 22:08.08 | max_posedon | show plz route -n , verify that all is ok on neo |
| 22:08.11 | SpeedEvil | Or do I need to wake up moore |
| 22:08.16 | max_posedon | SpeedEvil, nope |
| 22:09.45 | mihairu | max_posedon...oh i forgot route :) thx...my mistake :/ |
| 22:10.53 | BogdanR | Where can I get libsdl for SHR? |
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| 22:26.43 | slaxxer | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ |
| 22:26.55 | slaxxer | right there |
| 22:27.15 | slaxxer | shortcut that address |
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