| 00:00.18 | slaxxer | settings work again |
| 00:04.08 | slaxxer | cant set the time |
| 00:05.15 | slaxxer | why has tangogps not been fixed yet? |
| 00:05.36 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:31.28 | ruoso | is there any initiative on implementing a frameworkd alternative that does not require python? |
| 01:33.13 | dns53 | i thaught someone was creating one already in c or c++ |
| 01:33.41 | ruoso | having to install python in a space-constrained device is sad... |
| 01:35.42 | ruoso | dns53, do you have any link? |
| 01:36.37 | dns53 | no, ask in openmoko-cdevel where the fso/shr pll hang out |
| 01:37.04 | ruoso | that being a mailing list, I assume |
| 01:37.07 | DocMobilizer | actually vala |
| 01:37.23 | DocMobilizer | irc chan |
| 01:37.43 | dns53 | #openmoko-cdevel |
| 01:39.04 | DocMobilizer | but you'll find few of the fso team to answer any chan atm |
| 01:39.18 | DocMobilizer | sleeping |
| 01:39.55 | dns53 | nokia's fso replacement may be written in c but i have not checked |
| 01:40.38 | ruoso | is it free software? |
| 01:42.45 | dns53 | i think so, they only announced it this week |
| 01:43.16 | SpeedEvil | wonder what's going to happen with intels entry into the netbook-linux thing |
| 01:44.15 | dns53 | no devices as far as i kn ow |
| 01:44.36 | SpeedEvil | don't need devices |
| 01:44.49 | ruoso | dns53, any link? |
| 01:44.56 | dns53 | well the project is managed by the linux foundation |
| 01:45.26 | dns53 | ruoso no idea, i just read the gnome release notes |
| 01:46.00 | ruoso | upgrading his SHR on gta01 |
| 01:46.06 | ruoso | hopes the phone still works after that |
| 01:51.53 | ruoso | getting worried, it doesn't stop downloading new stuff |
| 02:00.05 | mwester | upgrades are not supported for SHR on any device. |
| 02:00.13 | mwester | good luck |
| 02:15.06 | ruoso | mwester, it seems everything went fine ;) |
| 02:15.09 | ruoso | lucky me |
| 02:15.27 | mwester | cool. :) |
| 02:15.46 | ruoso | and I even was able to remove some extra packages |
| 02:15.55 | ruoso | so I have some space left in my usr |
| 02:15.57 | mwester | most everyone seems to get stuck on packages that need to be forcibly removed first, then replaced, etc. |
| 02:16.12 | mwester | shr-testing or shr-unstable? |
| 02:16.17 | ruoso | unstable |
| 02:16.47 | ruoso | but I think it counts that I'm a debian developer, so I'm pretty used to manually resolving broken dependencies |
| 02:17.59 | ruoso | mwester, but in the process of setting up my phone I hitted #479 |
| 02:18.10 | ruoso | because my /usr is in the uSD |
| 02:18.17 | ruoso | while the rootfs is the original storage |
| 02:18.37 | ruoso | one thing I don't understand is why I can't get the timezone set |
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| 04:50.22 | cjb | Hi! It's been a while since I used my freerunner. Is there a way to get uboot serial over a USB cable? |
| 04:50.31 | cjb | or do you need the debug board for that? |
| 04:51.01 | SpeedEvil | press the button, and load cdc_acm I think |
| 04:51.12 | SpeedEvil | then minicom /dev/ttyUSB0 or whatever |
| 04:51.17 | cjb | oh! ttyACM0 is a serial port? |
| 04:51.24 | cjb | I don't have a ttyUSB0 appearing on the host |
| 04:51.44 | SpeedEvil | err |
| 04:51.52 | SpeedEvil | maybe acm0 yes, I don't know |
| 04:52.05 | SpeedEvil | the module is acm |
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| 05:22.14 | cjb | Hey, can anyone help me work out the MMIO address of the USB serial port inside uboot? |
| 05:32.18 | cjb | I think it's 0x50008000, not sure |
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| 07:01.42 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 07:31.33 | KenYoung | I just flashed the latest testing release of OM2009, and after it boots, it shows the clock (wrong time and day) and "Call-Log, SMS, Dialer" etc, but the phone is completely frozen. Neither button does anything, USB networking doesn't work, and touching the labels on the touchscreen does nothing - has anyone seen this> Do you know what's wrong? |
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| 08:47.19 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5030 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add symbols for RT9702A and RT9013 |
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| 09:06.53 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r737cd13bcdaf 10/libfsoframework/vapi/ (Makefile.am libascenario.deps libascenario.vapi): fsoframework: add libascenario.{deps|vapi} |
| 09:06.54 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1388264a3baa 10/fsodeviced/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fsodevice: alsa_audio: add first bits of libascenario usage |
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| 09:27.48 | thrashold | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:28.31 | max_posedon_ | fso/shr doesn't store outcoming messages now |
| 09:28.46 | thrashold | The incoming ones that are or my SIM aren't shown |
| 09:28.56 | max_posedon_ | hm... can't be |
| 09:28.58 | PaulFertser | max_posedon_: no, FSO does. If you use it with Zhone that's for sure. |
| 09:29.07 | PaulFertser | thrashold: probably your sim is not ready yet? |
| 09:29.21 | thrashold | When I receive a message, framework makes a noise, but shr-messages list is still empty |
| 09:29.22 | PaulFertser | thrashold: can you look through the frameworkd log to see if sim is ready? |
| 09:29.38 | Ainulindale | thrashold: it's not updated "in time", though you should have a window showing the new message |
| 09:29.41 | max_posedon_ | thrashold, you should restart shr-messages |
| 09:30.24 | PaulFertser | Yes, probably; if it still doesn't work, restart ophonekitd. |
| 09:30.29 | thrashold | I hear a sound, I open shr-messages (it's closed), and there are no messages. It could be dbus misconfiguration, let me check something. |
| 09:31.11 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc3b278c61f2b 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/alsa_audio/plugin.vala: |
| 09:31.11 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: fsodevice: alsa_audio: more work on scenario API implementation |
| 09:31.11 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: NOTE: Reconsider implementing this on a seperate object path |
| 09:31.29 | max_posedon_ | thrashold, try mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessag |
| 09:31.29 | max_posedon_ | ebook 'all' |
| 09:33.28 | thrashold | `/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: RetrieveMessagebook failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply' |
| 09:33.41 | thrashold | I guess I have so much messages that it timeouts |
| 09:34.38 | Ainulindale | That's bad |
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| 09:40.34 | thrashold | That works: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessage 0 |
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| 09:41.46 | PBeck | ahoi |
| 09:41.53 | max_posedon_ | transylvania, and RetrieveMessagebook 'all' doesn't? |
| 09:42.01 | max_posedon_ | sorry, thrashold |
| 09:42.03 | thrashold | max_posedon_: Nope |
| 09:43.15 | PaulFertser | thrashold: have you already taken a look at the log? Any tracebacks or other oddities there? |
| 09:44.08 | thrashold | I will enable it and check now |
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| 09:48.39 | thrashold | Yes, there is, when I do RetrieveMessagebook 'all' I get this: http://pastebin.com/m539c7a84 |
| 09:50.10 | thrashold | There are some fixes in framework GIT, I'll see if something is related to this |
| 09:50.27 | max_posedon_ | oh python-2.5 |
| 09:50.45 | max_posedon_ | somebody broke python-2.5 compability |
| 09:51.38 | max_posedon_ | mickey|zzZZzz, ! |
| 09:52.38 | max_posedon_ | thrashold, 1min, why you escaped 'all' via \ ? |
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| 09:53.23 | thrashold | Because of: ERROR:dbus.connection:Unable to set arguments (<built-in function all>,) according to signature u's': <type 'exceptions.TypeError'>: Expected a stringor unicode object |
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| 09:54.45 | max_posedon_ | hm try u'all'... but this is strange anyway |
| 09:55.58 | PaulFertser | max_posedon_: this error is unrelated to python2.5 |
| 09:56.13 | thrashold | Probably I'm using an older mdbus version which tries to eval whatever I give as an argument |
| 09:56.15 | PaulFertser | thrashold: yep, i noticed it several days ago and alphaone fixed it instantly |
| 09:56.44 | PaulFertser | thrashold: nothing to do with mdbus, just copy-paste error in ogsmd |
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| 09:58.31 | thrashold | So, this is gone in latest GIT? Thanks, I'll install it now |
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| 10:05.53 | thrashold | Thanks, it's all fine now :) |
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| 10:16.51 | thrashold | Cool, Tango GPS claims that it sees 12 satellites indoors. :D Yesterday it claimed that I was walking with 2219 km/h. :D (It was showing right coordinates and everything, though :) ) |
| 10:17.10 | soltys | :D |
| 10:18.07 | mjr | thrashold, are you sure you aren't at a nasa warehouse? |
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| 10:19.58 | thrashold | I'm not sure anymore, there were some catacombs on the top of the building next to me with strange equipment inside them, and strange antennas and all :D |
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| 10:26.32 | thrashold | GPS sats are in low earth orbit, right? |
| 10:27.10 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 10:27.45 | DocScrutinizer | most of them |
| 10:28.05 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: morning :) |
| 10:28.21 | DocScrutinizer | morning - - *yawn* |
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| 11:07.59 | badcloud | morning |
| 11:10.40 | rhkfin | ning |
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| 11:11.35 | PBeck | ahoi badcloud rhkfin :) |
| 11:13.09 | rhkfin | PBeck :) |
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| 11:18.06 | badcloud | what's shakin? no bugs? no wishlist additions????? |
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| 11:24.20 | rhkfin | badcloud: OM2009 & paroli rock. And sure bugs & wishlist additions :) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active |
| 11:25.15 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5031 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (AUTHORS components/exc240cb102u.lib gta02-core.pro): Add symbol for EXC240CB102U |
| 11:28.35 | Psi | hey, does QVGA work on gta01 under shr ? |
| 11:31.29 | badcloud | rhkfin, f'real? |
| 11:31.37 | badcloud | might give them a try |
| 11:32.20 | rhkfin | badcloud: I'm using testing 3 (with upgraded paroli so it |
| 11:32.31 | rhkfin | 's more or less testing4) for some days with no problems.. |
| 11:33.21 | badcloud | nice |
| 11:33.34 | badcloud | I'm using shr testing and h1 and I'm quite happy |
| 11:34.23 | badcloud | aside from lack of sms # --> name resolve in shr and contact hide'n'go seek with h1 |
| 11:36.18 | badcloud | but how much software is readily available for om'09? |
| 11:37.17 | schannall | om2009 should be binary compatible to om2008/shr etc |
| 11:37.57 | schannall | so nearly everything available for om2008/shr/fso etc is available for om2009 |
| 11:38.30 | PaulFertser | Psi: with which kernel? |
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| 11:44.35 | badcloud | I see |
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| 11:46.08 | PaulFertser | Hey, the stream is online! |
| 11:46.58 | badcloud | Paul, which stream? |
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| 11:49.55 | PaulFertser | badcloud: http://corrina.bearstech.com:1234 |
| 11:50.00 | PaulFertser | badcloud: FSOSHRUDEVCON |
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| 12:00.10 | Psi | PaulFertser: 2.6.24 |
| 12:03.13 | beer__ | are some of you people going to the camp this year? |
| 12:04.51 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r66cf2e79b191 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: |
| 12:04.51 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Name unnamed parameters |
| 12:04.51 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Frederik 'playya' Sdun <Frederik.Sdun@googlemail.com> |
| 12:04.52 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r0d221b688bfb 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: |
| 12:04.52 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: name unnamed parameters for signals |
| 12:04.56 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Frederik 'playya' Sdun <Frederik.Sdun@googlemail.com> |
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| 13:30.56 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5032 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix component name for EXC24CV102U (was EXC240CV102U) |
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| 13:36.52 | pabs3 | anyone have a working URL for Google Satellite tiles for tangogps? |
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| 13:52.46 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5034 10/trunk/gta02-core/AUTHORS: Fix name of lib in AUTHORS |
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| 14:46.10 | ST1 | hello |
| 14:46.38 | ST1 | i have a little problem, my usdcard seems not recognizer by my GTA02 ... |
| 14:46.42 | ST1 | recognized |
| 14:47.07 | ST1 | shoud i see something like mmcblckp0 in my dev directory ? |
| 14:47.31 | SpeedEvil | Ok, first. |
| 14:47.37 | badcloud | anyone know which distros support right to left language in sms reading? |
| 14:47.47 | Ainulindale | SHR |
| 14:47.49 | SpeedEvil | Have you tried taking it out and putting it in again? |
| 14:47.50 | badcloud | *languages |
| 14:48.08 | badcloud | Hebrew/Arabic encoding, the works? |
| 14:48.16 | Ainulindale | yes |
| 14:48.24 | badcloud | nice |
| 14:48.25 | badcloud | thanks |
| 14:48.26 | ST1 | SpeedEvil : i just did it... anyway i'm also using the fso console image... don't know if it has an impact |
| 14:48.59 | SpeedEvil | umm |
| 14:49.39 | SpeedEvil | Sorry - I should have kept up better - but have had no cash to buy gta02 - so I've not been keeping up with that hardware as much as I should have. |
| 14:49.57 | SpeedEvil | The device I think should show in /proc/partitions, if it's loaded |
| 14:50.12 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5035 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (12 files in 2 dirs): Updated compilation libs and expanded view for new components. |
| 14:50.19 | SpeedEvil | you should also get mentiones in the kernel logs about the SD card being initialised |
| 14:50.27 | SpeedEvil | lots of stuff about cocking and such. |
| 14:50.30 | SpeedEvil | clocking |
| 14:51.09 | ST1 | i will search:) |
| 14:53.49 | ST1 | it's strange , it seems that it foudn it.. |
| 14:53.56 | ST1 | then later it removed it ! |
| 14:55.09 | ST1 | it's a sandisk microsd card, it should not be a problem, right ? |
| 14:55.24 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03werner * r5036 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/STATUS: Reviewed all the new components. |
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| 14:56.52 | SpeedEvil | ST1: there have been reports that some cards hve problems, these have bugs |
| 14:57.09 | ST1 | SpeedEvil: shit ... |
| 14:57.31 | ST1 | SpeedEvil: Do you know how can i check my firmware version instead ? |
| 14:57.37 | SpeedEvil | err |
| 14:57.40 | SpeedEvil | this is a big |
| 14:57.50 | SpeedEvil | what do you mean by firmwarv ersion |
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| 14:57.58 | SpeedEvil | GSM? |
| 14:58.03 | ST1 | i think so ... |
| 14:58.11 | ST1 | in fact, i'm programming on the top of fso |
| 14:58.23 | ST1 | and after required the GSM resource |
| 14:58.37 | ST1 | i asked to the sim card if it needs a authenticate code |
| 14:58.41 | ST1 | and that crashed |
| 14:58.49 | ST1 | so i asked to the guys on the FSO irc channel |
| 14:59.06 | ST1 | and they asked me, wich version of the firmware i had. .. |
| 14:59.08 | SpeedEvil | IIRC searching the wiki for GSM flash should turn up something |
| 15:00.15 | ST1 | geez... found it |
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| 15:56.23 | ST1 | hi evryone ... |
| 15:56.35 | ST1 | has anyone ever programmed over the FSO framework please ? |
| 15:56.49 | ST1 | i have an anoying error , and i can't find where it comes from ... :s |
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| 16:06.19 | ST1 | Some one competent with freesmartphone framework and GTA02 for python programming ? |
| 16:06.25 | ST1 | Here is my source code: http://pastebin.com/d1db90ea1 |
| 16:06.55 | ST1 | When requesting for a potential sim code, it crashed with a SIM FAILURE code :s |
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| 16:12.35 | Zorkman | ST1: maybe ask in #openmoko-cdevel |
| 16:12.45 | Zorkman | aha, you already did, my mistake :) |
| 16:13.17 | ST1 | no problem :) |
| 16:15.32 | ST1 | does anyone knows how to get ophonekitd source ? |
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| 16:46.57 | khiraly1 | hmm |
| 16:47.34 | dos1 | ST1: git.shr-project.org |
| 16:47.37 | dos1 | shr.git repo |
| 16:47.59 | dos1 | (not ophonekitd.repo, cause it's vala rewrite, not used now) |
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| 17:35.06 | Bogdan | Hello everbody |
| 17:35.28 | Bogdan | Can someone tell me how do I change the logo in the uboot menu? |
| 17:35.44 | dos1 | Bogdan: i think there is no logo in uboot menu |
| 17:35.49 | dos1 | at last by default |
| 17:35.51 | dos1 | only in NOR |
| 17:35.59 | dos1 | which you can't write without debubo |
| 17:36.18 | Bogdan | The uboot menu shows a logo |
| 17:36.33 | dos1 | Bogdan: no, it doesn't |
| 17:36.50 | Bogdan | hmm |
| 17:37.01 | dos1 | Bogdan: push POWER, then AUX |
| 17:37.10 | dos1 | you will see uboot menu from NAND |
| 17:37.15 | dos1 | when you push AUX, and then POWER |
| 17:37.24 | dos1 | you can see NOR uboot menu, which is read-only |
| 17:37.34 | dos1 | i think you could set up logo in NAND menu |
| 17:37.48 | dos1 | but by default there isn't no logo |
| 17:37.48 | Bogdan | This tells NOR on the screen |
| 17:37.52 | dos1 | s/isn't/is/ |
| 17:37.57 | dos1 | Bogdan: so it's read-only |
| 17:38.02 | dos1 | (unless you have debug board) |
| 17:38.09 | Bogdan | I see |
| 17:38.33 | Bogdan | so basically I can also boot a different bootloader that has no logo? |
| 17:38.48 | dos1 | Bogdan: well, you should |
| 17:38.55 | dos1 | NOR bootloader is only recovery one |
| 17:39.02 | Bogdan | dos1: cool |
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| 17:39.51 | Bogdan | So I can play with the NAND bootloader as much as I want and if I mess it out I can always boot with the NOR one right? |
| 17:40.33 | badcloud1 | as far as I know |
| 17:40.56 | Bogdan | This is great |
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| 17:42.53 | dos1 | well |
| 17:43.14 | dos1 | Bogdan: it's strange for me that you didn't know that BEFORE you bought FreeRunner ;) |
| 17:43.29 | Bogdan | :)) |
| 17:43.55 | dos1 | (about recovery bootloader in NOR, not about logo of course ;D) |
| 17:44.09 | Bogdan | I have some frinds that have the development board and I was expecting to use that in case shit happens |
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| 17:45.53 | Zilla | I dont currently have an freerunner, but consider buying one. Wich distro is currently the best for using the freerunner as a daily phone? |
| 17:46.18 | Bogdan | Zilla: I wound't get a FreeRunner now that I have it :) |
| 17:46.32 | dos1 | Zilla: for me SHR |
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| 17:46.54 | dos1 | and maybe Om2009, but i should test it firstly |
| 17:46.59 | dos1 | (at last it seems to be good) |
| 17:47.10 | spaetz | Zilla: most people only use 1 distro, so it's hard to compare |
| 17:47.23 | dos1 | about SHR - of course shr-unstable image :P |
| 17:47.32 | spaetz | but om2009 or shr would be my guesses too |
| 17:47.41 | Zilla | how great is android on the FR? |
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| 17:48.00 | Bogdan | Zilla: If you don't mind the thing that if you are lucky battery will last from morning to evening and if you don't mind missing a phonecall or two you can use it as a daily phone |
| 17:48.34 | lindi- | Zilla: i don't think the addresses the problems i'm seeing since they are in kernel, X and gsm chip |
| 17:48.38 | dos1 | Zilla: Android? i think it's still curiosity on FreeRunner |
| 17:48.44 | Bogdan | Zilla: I find Android somehow usable except that wireless doesn't actually work in the real life situations |
| 17:48.44 | Zilla | Ah i get it :) |
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| 17:52.06 | badcloud | dos1, which unstable image is working ok now? |
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| 17:52.23 | dos1 | badcloud: latest |
| 17:52.35 | badcloud | really? it's doing relatively ok now? |
| 17:53.12 | Zilla | where do you use the FR for? development of software? |
| 17:53.17 | Zilla | @everyone |
| 17:55.26 | dos1 | badcloud: i'm using it as daily phone |
| 17:55.31 | thrashold | GPS tracking, backup phone (though I think that I would use it as primary) |
| 17:55.35 | Bogdan | Zilla: I just wanted to test OpenSource mobile stuff |
| 17:55.46 | dos1 | Zilla: i'm using my FR with shr-unstable as my main phone, and i'm using it for development too |
| 17:56.45 | thrashold | Mobile IM too, though I'm avoiding IMing when I'm somewhere, so I haven't really tested it. :D |
| 17:57.08 | Bogdan | I the future I'll probably use it for something else besides phone because in my opinion it doesn't work as a phone |
| 17:57.53 | rons | Hello all, can I use the FR as a daily PDA? |
| 17:58.06 | Bogdan | NO |
| 17:58.12 | thrashold | If I ever manage to create my elementary python shell, I would use it as an advanced calculator, too. |
| 17:58.25 | rons | no? |
| 17:58.36 | Bogdan | rons: Not at all |
| 17:58.38 | Zilla | well its a linux device wich has an mobilephone inside :) |
| 17:58.46 | Zilla | i think thats what the FR is? |
| 17:58.53 | dos1 | rons: yes |
| 17:58.53 | thrashold | rons: You can, actually, but it is not very suitable |
| 17:59.07 | dos1 | i'm using it as my primary, daily phone |
| 17:59.23 | Zilla | whats a good PIM-suite than for the FR? (simple calandar app) |
| 17:59.38 | rons | i am a developer myself... I don't mind making backups & playing around to make it work... |
| 18:00.03 | dos1 | Zilla: i'm working on opimd |
| 18:00.16 | dos1 | Zilla: we should get some calendar working soon i think |
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| 18:00.50 | rons | is developing Qt apps on the FR as easy as it is on the PC? |
| 18:01.03 | Zilla | i see :) |
| 18:01.43 | dos1 | rons: don't know about Qt... but it shouldn't be that hard, if only you'll get familiar with OE |
| 18:02.23 | Zilla | has every FR the buzzing bug? (microphone hardware bug) |
| 18:02.36 | dos1 | Zilla: A7 revisions not |
| 18:03.08 | Zilla | a7 is being sold now? |
| 18:03.19 | Zilla | *are |
| 18:03.23 | dos1 | i think yes (isn't it?) |
| 18:04.22 | jonkristian | i thought only up to A5? |
| 18:04.37 | dos1 | jonkristian: WTF? |
| 18:04.46 | dos1 | A5 was first being sold revision |
| 18:04.54 | dos1 | (i have A5) |
| 18:04.54 | jonkristian | I have A6 |
| 18:05.26 | dos1 | A6 has only few fixes - AUX LED, SD/GPS interference and booting without battery |
| 18:05.32 | rons | dos1: what is OE? |
| 18:05.33 | dos1 | A7 fixes buzz |
| 18:05.37 | dos1 | rons: Open Embedded |
| 18:05.42 | dos1 | rons: build system |
| 18:06.28 | Zilla | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_revisions no a7 revision here? |
| 18:07.09 | lindi- | Zilla: wiki is out-of-date, with information distributed all around |
| 18:07.10 | rons | dos1: i've used the crosscompiler toolchain for openwrt... |
| 18:07.45 | Zilla | so where can i find current info lindi-? |
| 18:08.03 | lindi- | Zilla: no single place sorry |
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| 18:09.54 | Zilla | http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner a7 revision has allready the buzz fix applied from factory :) |
| 18:10.08 | rons | the openmoko/FR community seems to be very devided... |
| 18:12.55 | badcloud | I think it's difficult to assemble all info in one place, considering the number of distros available to the phone |
| 18:13.52 | Zilla | info on the hardware should be in one place? |
| 18:14.20 | badcloud | that it *should* be |
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| 18:14.55 | Zilla | it should be indeed :( |
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| 18:16.00 | rons | are there other places for custom hardware expansions/hacks? |
| 18:16.34 | badcloud | a snapon usb keyboard for fast texting/emailing would be stellar |
| 18:16.39 | rons | it would be cool to add your own stuff to the FR without messing around with the outer case |
| 18:17.50 | rons | like a simple temperature sensor or a IR transmitter to use it as a remote control... |
| 18:18.09 | Zilla | lirc on the FR |
| 18:18.13 | Zilla | would be nice:) |
| 18:18.27 | badcloud | I was a bit disappointed by lack of ir |
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| 18:18.43 | thrashold | You can always create a BT remote, though |
| 18:19.41 | badcloud | or wifi |
| 18:19.46 | badcloud | using a router |
| 18:19.53 | rons | yes ofcourse... but I don't might developing some hardware... maybe u know of some custom expansions... |
| 18:19.54 | badcloud | depending on the purpose |
| 18:20.01 | thrashold | I've never seen IR on anything in my life. Never touched a computer with IR. I have IR on my primary phone, but I never did nothing more than see the option in the menu |
| 18:20.30 | jonkristian | ir is old. |
| 18:20.59 | rons | ok ofcourse.. IR is a bit dull.. but give me something... |
| 18:21.31 | jonkristian | bt? |
| 18:21.39 | thrashold | BlueTooth |
| 18:21.57 | rons | yes, but it's already on the FR... |
| 18:22.03 | thrashold | Or as I prefer to say "Blue Tuff" :D |
| 18:22.05 | rons | there is no fun in that... |
| 18:22.58 | anno^da_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.01 | anno^da_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.12 | anno^da_ | oh :) |
| 18:23.19 | badcloud | any know of a mini keyboard that fits the fr? |
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| 18:23.27 | badcloud | some thing that would snap on to it of course |
| 18:24.30 | rons | who would like to have LIRC on there FR? |
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| 18:25.15 | lindi- | rons: ? |
| 18:25.56 | thrashold | Wasn't LIRC an IR remote *client* software? Or I got it wrong? |
| 18:25.57 | jonkristian | rons: there would be no point. |
| 18:26.08 | badcloud | thrashold, yes |
| 18:26.17 | badcloud | sounds nice, but a bit archaic |
| 18:26.25 | Zilla | linux infra red control? for controlling your tv and stereo :) |
| 18:26.33 | thrashold | Oh, it wasn't a client, it can both send and receive |
| 18:26.43 | Zilla | yes it can do both |
| 18:26.44 | Zilla | :) |
| 18:26.52 | rons | badcloud: http://www.pulster.de/d__btkeyboard__Openmoko_Freerunner_Bluetooth_Mini_Keyboard1049.htm |
| 18:27.06 | badcloud | oh, whoops, I neglected the emphasized *client* bit |
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| 18:27.17 | dos1 | Zilla: but you'll need IrDA for that :x |
| 18:27.30 | Zilla | btw whats the difference in between pulster.eu and goldendelicious? as of service ? |
| 18:27.33 | Zilla | *as in |
| 18:27.56 | Zilla | a simple ir led + serial port would work just fine |
| 18:28.01 | Zilla | for lirc |
| 18:28.10 | rons | I would not know... I don't own a FR *yet* :P |
| 18:28.19 | thrashold | You can get USB IrDA |
| 18:28.25 | Zilla | but where did you bought one? rons? |
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| 18:28.39 | rons | Zilla: I would not know... I don't own a FR *yet* :P |
| 18:28.48 | badcloud | rons, thanks, but I was thinking along the lines of... http://www.phonemag.com/verizon-lg-versa-with-detachable-oled-keyboard-case-hits-march-1st-026950.php |
| 18:28.56 | Zilla | has an lirc reciever for the serial port :) |
| 18:28.58 | Zilla | works great |
| 18:29.28 | badcloud | something not separate (necessarily) from the device |
| 18:29.41 | thrashold | There are BlueTooth IR adapters :D |
| 18:29.50 | Zilla | link? |
| 18:30.44 | thrashold | Google returned links for me. I don't know which are suitable. http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/ir2bt-infrared-to-bluetooth-converter-now-on-sale-ps3-owners-re/ This looks cool, but it is too big :) |
| 18:31.27 | thrashold | The point is, there are many ways you can attach IR hardware to FR. |
| 18:31.30 | rons | ok I understand.. there is no fun with IR... but what about something else? something that can easily be connected to the FR, like a humidity sensor? |
| 18:31.54 | Zilla | or an dvbt tuner :) |
| 18:32.03 | thrashold | You can use an USB serial port, for example. And I plan to do this to control my telescope from FR. |
| 18:32.22 | badcloud | tell me I'm not the only one hungry for a thumb usb keyboard |
| 18:32.24 | thrashold | But attacking an external IR device to FR is rather pointless. |
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| 18:33.48 | rons | Zilla: dvbt would be fun, be to big to be integrated in the FR... |
| 18:34.37 | rons | Zilla: we could mount it on the FR with some ducktape... but then it would not look that fancy... |
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| 18:36.02 | Zilla | if you built an dvbt tuner inside the device, the device gets bigger :( |
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| 18:38.02 | Zilla | does someone knows when pulster is going to sell the new a7 hardware revision? |
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| 18:56.09 | CIA-53 | openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5037 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (components/varistor.lib gta02-core.pro): Add varistor symbol. |
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| 19:28.36 | rons | Hi all, I like to buy a FR, video playback seems to be like a notorious topic... has anybody actually used the FR to watch videos while traveling? (I don't mind messing around with the FR) |
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| 19:30.33 | lindi- | rons: simple ones play even without any hw acceleration |
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| 19:37.31 | rons | lindi-: hw acceleration (the Glamo chip) seems to be the problem of the FR... |
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| 19:38.38 | SpeedEvil | pretty much |
| 19:38.46 | mjr | there was some patched prototype mplayer to handle mpeg4 accel but I don't know if that's been followed up on |
| 19:38.49 | lindi- | rons: there are so many other issues that i wouldn't concentrate on that |
| 19:38.56 | lindi- | mjr: it horribly bypasses kernel and X |
| 19:39.07 | mjr | that much i kind of presumed |
| 19:39.12 | mjr | anyway, yeah, more important stuff |
| 19:40.05 | flavioribeiro | hey people, can someone tell me an example of a embedded device inherited from openmoko schematics? |
| 19:40.11 | rons | ok i understand the FR is not perfect... but at least I can login with ssh on antother server without having to carry a laptop or netbook :P |
| 19:41.05 | rons | flavioribeiro: there was a GPS device somewhere which uses the orginal device... |
| 19:41.40 | rons | flavioribeiro: http://www.openmoko.com/opportunities-verticals-dash-openmoko.html |
| 19:43.42 | SpeedEvil | flavioribeiro: if you mean a 'community' one - schematics are the small part of the problem - it's unlikely to go from schematics to working hardware without several iterations and thousands of $ |
| 19:46.05 | flavioribeiro | all i need is a photo to put in my presentation about open hardware and the 'feature' of inherit from other open hardware platforms |
| 19:46.07 | rons | I think you can extend the device with some additional sensors etc. (with I2C etc.), but creating a complete new device with complete different dimensions is another thing... |
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| 19:47.38 | rons | there was another application of the FR... something with geographic stuff... |
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| 19:48.58 | SpeedEvil | flavioribeiro: ask over in ##electronics |
| 19:49.06 | SpeedEvil | I can't think of anything at the moment |
| 19:50.52 | rons | I saw some video on youtube in which the FR was used to control an autonomous robot, but ofcourse they didn't actually use the electrical schematics... |
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| 20:41.47 | kirun | I got a SMS with an & in it, Paroli won't display it, or anything after it ... known bug? ( Couldn't find one ) |
| 20:43.15 | lindi- | kirun: does http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/dump-sms show it? |
| 20:51.08 | kirun | (trying it now...) , it does show past the & in the preview |
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| 20:56.50 | kirun | ... dump-sms just pauses for a second or two then stops ( unless I run it from ssh, then it complains about no display instead ) |
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