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| 00:15.53 | ndnihil | I can't believe that nobody has packaged perl+gtk or perl+elementary modules, what do you freaks see in python? |
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| 01:01.50 | mwester | ndnihil: if you can figure out how to write a bb recipe to build and package the e or gtk perl modules, I will commit them to the OE git repo (and they'll automagically show up in all the distro feeds with all the other Perl modules). |
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| 01:22.23 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfcce70a677e8 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_leds/plugin.vala: fsodevice: kernel26_leds: derive mode from cleaned mode |
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| 01:22.25 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r61a3438845f3 10/libfsoframework/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: linux26.vapi: add bindings for linux-specifics |
| 01:22.26 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r20ca0b1ba9ea 10/libfsoframework/ (fsoframework/interfaces.vala vapi/linux26.vapi): fsoframework: tweak bindings and add SystemError to interfaces |
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| 01:22.31 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r39aa59d2667a 10/fsodeviced/ (5 files in 4 dirs): fsodevice: rtc plugin works |
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| 04:16.52 | slaxxer | where is the dark keyboard theme for shr? |
| 04:17.30 | slaxxer | white letters an black background |
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| 07:44.59 | jz1 | Hi all, I am having a problem when making qemu following these instructions... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Automatic_emulation_in_Ubuntu |
| 07:45.28 | jz1 | in particular the file... openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/openmoko/download.sh |
| 07:47.19 | jz1 | When I "make qemu", output is... |
| 07:47.19 | jz1 | ( cd images && ../openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/openmoko/download.sh ) |
| 07:47.19 | jz1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.19 | jz1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.20 | jz1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.20 | jz1 | make: *** [download-images] Error 255 |
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| 07:48.00 | jz1 | is this the right place to seek help? |
| 07:48.30 | SpeedEvil | what are you trying to build |
| 07:48.32 | SpeedEvil | hangon |
| 07:48.53 | SpeedEvil | yes, in principle - but 9AM is a bit of a quiet time - the US has gone mostly to sleep |
| 07:49.03 | jz1 | ah ok |
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| 07:49.41 | jz1 | are you familiar with what I asked about above? |
| 07:50.27 | jz1 | maybe wholistics aside, the problem I think lies here... |
| 07:50.33 | jz1 | echo " "Retrieving available builds list... |
| 07:50.33 | jz1 | backup_download_dir="http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/" |
| 07:50.33 | jz1 | echo download_dir $download_dir |
| 07:50.33 | jz1 | echo backupdirectory $backup_download_dir |
| 07:50.33 | jz1 | files=`lynx -dump $download_dir | grep http | sed "s,[0-9 \t\.]*$download_dir\([a-zA-Z0-9_\.-]\)[ \t]*,\1,"` |
| 07:50.33 | jz1 | dev_files=`lynx -dump $dev_download_dir | grep http | sed "s,[0-9 \t\.]*$dev_download_dir\([a-zA-Z0-9_\.-]\)[ \t]*,\1,"` |
| 07:50.36 | jz1 | if [[ "${files}" == "" ]]; then |
| 07:50.38 | SpeedEvil | Sorry - not |
| 07:50.38 | jz1 | echo " "Trying alternative sources |
| 07:50.40 | jz1 | download_dir="$backup_download_dir" |
| 07:50.42 | jz1 | dev_download_dir="$backup_download_dir" |
| 07:50.44 | jz1 | files=`lynx -dump $download_dir | grep http | sed "s,[0-9 \t\.]*$download_dir\([a-zA-Z0-9_\.-]\)[ \t]*,\1,"` |
| 07:50.47 | jz1 | dev_files="$files" |
| 07:50.49 | jz1 | fi |
| 07:50.50 | SpeedEvil | 2008.8 is AIUI deprecated |
| 07:51.01 | jz1 | ah, that could be it |
| 07:51.06 | jz1 | whats a good link? |
| 07:51.33 | SpeedEvil | The wiki isn't as up-to-date as one might hope |
| 07:51.57 | jz1 | the script originally just used daily, and 2007, before I put the 2008.8 in |
| 07:52.42 | SpeedEvil | Sorry - I haven't tried to use qemu in a couple of years - got hardware, then I've not kept up with the recent changes - due to time issues |
| 07:52.55 | SpeedEvil | have you got qemu up, or do you need to build it? |
| 07:52.57 | jz1 | where do you get your images? |
| 07:53.14 | jz1 | well I think qemu is good now, its just when it tries to get a kernel |
| 07:53.22 | jz1 | i believe its just a broken link |
| 07:53.44 | jz1 | http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/ |
| 07:53.44 | jz1 | doesn't exist anymore, right? |
| 07:54.10 | jz1 | whats the equivalent to what this was? |
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| 07:55.00 | SpeedEvil | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions |
| 07:55.04 | SpeedEvil | is probably a good link |
| 07:55.12 | SpeedEvil | not that that has images |
| 07:55.18 | SpeedEvil | just links to |
| 07:55.50 | jz1 | http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/ ? |
| 07:56.25 | Heinervdm | Someone knows how to convert tangogps .log to .gpx ? |
| 07:57.07 | alphaone | gpsbabel will do it |
| 07:57.11 | jz1 | SpeedEvil: thanks for your help, I'll try a few different places |
| 07:57.17 | SpeedEvil | jz1: good luck |
| 07:57.25 | SpeedEvil | gpsbabel will do everything! |
| 07:57.26 | Heinervdm | alphaone: wich -i ? |
| 07:57.42 | alphaone | Heinervdm: It was more complicated than that :-) |
| 07:57.49 | Heinervdm | :( |
| 07:57.49 | mirko-paroli | jz1: what are you looking for? |
| 07:57.54 | mirko-paroli | om2008.12 ? |
| 07:57.59 | SpeedEvil | IIRC there is a way to tell tangogps to log in NMEA formatt, which I did |
| 07:58.15 | jz1 | mirko-paroli: sure, that might work |
| 07:58.23 | mirko-paroli | jz1: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.12/ |
| 07:58.26 | SpeedEvil | Heinervdm: IIRC you need to set it up as a whitespace seperated format, and tell it what the fields mean |
| 07:58.32 | jz1 | its where the qemu script searches for a kernel |
| 07:59.02 | Heinervdm | SpeedEvil: ok, will try |
| 07:59.29 | alphaone | google for http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TangoGPS#Using_tangoGPS_for_OpenStreetMap.org |
| 07:59.50 | alphaone | Well, there is a way to tell gpsbabel as well... |
| 08:00.00 | alphaone | That link uses a skript |
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| 08:00.35 | alphaone | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TangoGPS#Using_the_TangoGPS_logs |
| 08:00.39 | alphaone | Ah, there we go |
| 08:01.08 | Heinervdm | alphaone: thats great, it works :) |
| 08:01.13 | Heinervdm | thx |
| 08:01.15 | alphaone | np |
| 08:02.15 | jz1 | basically the line in the script is now effectively |
| 08:02.16 | jz1 | files=`lynx -dump "http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.12/" | grep http | sed "s,[0-9 \t\.]*$download_dir\([a-zA-Z0-9_\.-]\)[ \t]*,\1,"` |
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| 08:05.53 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:08.34 | jz1 | goodmorning hopscotch |
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| 08:43.13 | khiraly1 | re |
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| 09:26.34 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: enable Transport.GetDelegate, now that http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578412 is fixed |
| 09:26.35 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: bump version |
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| 09:56.51 | badcloud | zhone doesn't run though.... even after chmod 775 |
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| 10:35.08 | skamster | hello there.. i had just a little question about pygtk.. i want to make the label, which show's the text to use the full width.. but it doesn't work |
| 10:35.35 | skamster | when i use wrap, it use just the half width |
| 10:35.50 | skamster | when i didn't use wrap, it goes over the display |
| 10:35.55 | skamster | it's about this code: http://death-head.ch/openmoko/sms-reader/sms-read.py |
| 10:36.54 | skamster | the strange thing is, i use also buttons in the (v)box |
| 10:37.14 | skamster | these use the full width of the display, like i want |
| 10:37.20 | skamster | just the label didn't |
| 10:38.18 | skamster | could someone help? |
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| 10:40.34 | thefloe_ | hi, after last update on shr-testing, enlightenment seg faults at startup... anyone having this behavior too? |
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| 10:50.56 | messerting | Hi folks, I've just installed SHR-testing. Looks very nice! |
| 10:51.21 | messerting | I've also managed to get online through usb by following the instructions on the wiki |
| 10:51.41 | messerting | Now, I'd like to use wifi, but I just can't find where to start Mofi... |
| 10:52.01 | messerting | it is installed and listed by opkg, but where is the icon for it? |
| 10:56.18 | messerting | oh wait, "opkg list" lists not only installed packages... installing now... |
| 10:56.48 | ndnihil | opkg lists available package |
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| 10:56.54 | ndnihil | opkg list_installed lists installed packages |
| 10:57.23 | messerting | ndnihil: thanks, I'm a bit of newb to this opkg system :) |
| 10:57.34 | messerting | got it installed now - and found the icon |
| 10:57.38 | messerting | will test it |
| 10:59.37 | messerting | wow! seems to work |
| 11:00.47 | messerting | yes. cool. thanks |
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| 15:52.38 | khiraly1 | re |
| 15:52.42 | khiraly1 | mirko-paroli: are you here? |
| 15:53.23 | khiraly1 | mirko-paroli: today I tried to use the phone the whole day. (I missed 4 phone call in total, and one person couldnt reach me at all ;-|) |
| 15:53.54 | khiraly1 | The general impression, if you use paroli phone calling it will more and more likely to fail |
| 15:55.11 | khiraly1 | The easiest to trigger, if you launch the Tele application, you initiate a call, and talk with him. After you hangup. But you dont close the Tele application, in this state if you get calling from others, three or four is even enough to get fail paroli |
| 15:55.12 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: likely than what? |
| 15:55.31 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: ah, more and more, likelihood increases with uptime, i see. |
| 15:55.49 | khiraly1 | PaulFertser: If you just launch paroli, and dont use it, it will work fine |
| 15:56.02 | khiraly1 | PaulFertser: nope. Its not triggered over time, but over usage |
| 15:56.16 | khiraly1 | if you dont use paroli at the evening you are reachable |
| 15:56.38 | khiraly1 | but if you use paroli, its likelihood that within 2 hours nobody can you reachn |
| 15:56.44 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: Have you seen anything suspicious in frameworkd log? |
| 15:56.57 | khiraly1 | PaulFertser: I have only paroli logs saved |
| 15:57.08 | khiraly1 | I saved many different problem. |
| 15:57.14 | Blu3 | no, it took four minutes to delete a single message after selecting it and touching delete |
| 15:57.24 | Blu3 | did it twice now |
| 15:57.38 | khiraly1 | But dont know where is frameworkd log. So If you tell me, I will save it too |
| 15:57.52 | Blu3 | it's in /var/log/ |
| 15:58.19 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: distro-specific, most probably in your syslog. |
| 15:58.26 | khiraly1 | om2009 |
| 15:58.29 | khiraly1 | unstable |
| 15:58.35 | khiraly1 | with some tweaking from mirko |
| 15:59.11 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: i meant it's up to you to find out where the log goes, it's fairly easy. |
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| 15:59.15 | khiraly1 | the biggest usability issue, that as paroli gets unusable its more likelihood, that the power button cant initiate suspend anymore |
| 15:59.54 | khiraly1 | But the phone will suspend if you dont use it. Just it is impossible to wake up (as the power button does not work) |
| 15:59.54 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: what about calling suspend method of frameworkd directly? |
| 16:00.05 | khiraly1 | I hitted that problem at least 4 time today |
| 16:00.37 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: doesn't look anything like paroli-specific :( unable to resume looks like kernel problem (and yes, i see it ocassionally too)... |
| 16:00.41 | khiraly1 | PaulFertser: Is paroli who controls the power button, or frameworkd |
| 16:00.49 | khiraly1 | ? |
| 16:01.10 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: Unable to suspend can be due to various reasons, one of which is ogsmd unable to disable unsolicited messages from GSM. |
| 16:01.19 | khiraly1 | PaulFertser: Im pretty sure that it could resume *if* the power button would work as before |
| 16:01.33 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: (power button control) it depends on your rules.yaml in frameworkd. |
| 16:01.43 | khiraly1 | ok. Im checking it |
| 16:01.45 | khiraly1 | just a sec |
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| 16:02.13 | khiraly1 | the second biggest usability issue, that if I resume via the power button, it resumes fine, but the screen stays blanked |
| 16:02.22 | khiraly1 | so there is no feedback if I resumed correctly or not |
| 16:02.25 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: resume by power button is pure low-level stuff, only bootloader, kernel involved. After that you get at least USB (and usable system if X driver is ok). |
| 16:02.32 | khiraly1 | I need to tap on the screen to see paroli |
| 16:02.41 | khiraly1 | and often I tap on buttons what I dont want |
| 16:02.59 | khiraly1 | PaulFertser: and initiate the suspend? |
| 16:03.54 | khiraly1 | I think resume is fine. The problem that the power button just does not work anymore at a given time. It happens randomly. But if happened already, it will never "cure" |
| 16:03.56 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: it's initiated basically by "echo mem > /sys/power/state" but for it to be reasonable (i.e. you don't want to resume because calypso wants to tell you gsm connection status) first some unsols should be disabled. |
| 16:04.16 | khiraly1 | and the event of the power button? |
| 16:04.19 | khiraly1 | what handles it? |
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| 16:05.11 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: it can be handled by anything, including oeventsd from framework. |
| 16:05.16 | khiraly1 | PaulFertser: oh and it goes suspend when usb connected and I dont touch the phone. Rather irritating |
| 16:05.18 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: so, it's distro-specific. |
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| 16:05.54 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: but resume on power button is pure low-level stuff. |
| 16:06.12 | khiraly1 | I thought there is a connection between them |
| 16:06.43 | khiraly1 | so if initiating suspend does not work, resume will not work either (when the system suspended by self) |
| 16:06.49 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: no |
| 16:06.55 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: ne relation whatsoever. |
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| 16:07.28 | khiraly1 | rather strange, because it looks like |
| 16:07.46 | khiraly1 | oh, and after resume why the screen stays blank? (if blanked before suspend) |
| 16:08.11 | khiraly1 | so If I dont touch the phone. 1. the screen blanks (black) 2. the system suspends |
| 16:08.23 | khiraly1 | I resume the system via power button. But the screen stays black |
| 16:08.43 | khiraly1 | I need to tap on the screen to see something. So no visual feedback when the resume was fine |
| 16:09.05 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: probably power button event is eaten by the kernel driver (i don't remember if it's still the case). Or it's just not used as a source of unblanking event. |
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| 16:09.58 | khiraly1 | ohh. I have var/log/frameworkd.log |
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| 16:10.07 | khiraly1 | I will save it with paroli in the future |
| 16:12.10 | khiraly1 | ok. I have right now broken paroli. Cant call anyone |
| 16:12.28 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: the best way to see if the phone resumed or not is to plug in USB. On plugging USB it must try to resume anyway. And if you see usb device on your host and can ssh into, well, then it resumed. Otherwise -> kernel (likely) / bootloader (unlikely) problem. |
| 16:12.58 | khiraly1 | PaulFertser: but it goes to suspend when connected to the computer |
| 16:13.06 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: replug usb then |
| 16:13.07 | khiraly1 | if I dont touch the phone regularly |
| 16:13.11 | khiraly1 | hmm. Ok |
| 16:13.38 | lindi- | PaulFertser: is there some way to have the phone not resume when you plug usb? that'd be very useful |
| 16:13.57 | khiraly1 | lindi-: why it would be usefull? |
| 16:14.35 | PaulFertser | lindi-: it was intentional, to make battery charge always controllable, iirc. |
| 16:14.58 | lindi- | PaulFertser: ok :( |
| 16:15.17 | PaulFertser | lindi-: not sure if it can be workarounded. Can you share your specific use-case? |
| 16:15.24 | khiraly1 | hmm. Looks like paroli problem right now. There are plenty of errors in the log |
| 16:15.53 | khiraly1 | and in frameworkd.log there are no call events. So looks like paroli failed to send the event |
| 16:16.20 | lindi- | PaulFertser: well, i don't have any automatic resume so it's tedious for me to manually tell it to suspend again |
| 16:16.27 | lindi- | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.43 | khiraly1 | what is strange, that when I cant call, I have many calling screen in the illume taskbar. But only one paroli process id (ps -e |grep paroli) |
| 16:16.55 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i guess kernel should be able to notify userspace and you can catch that and force to suspend again. |
| 16:16.56 | lindi- | PaulFertser: won't power button and usb plug-in both cause 'EINT09_PMU'? |
| 16:17.22 | lindi- | PaulFertser: if I could differentiate between those I could automate this |
| 16:17.48 | khiraly1 | lindi-: but when connected what is the benefit to suspend the phone? You have external power source, no need to spare with it |
| 16:18.02 | lindi- | khiraly1: charges faster |
| 16:18.16 | lindi- | khiraly1: the external power source can be my external usb li-ion battery |
| 16:18.40 | lindi- | khiraly1: which I need to spare. and think of the environment!11 :) |
| 16:18.46 | PaulFertser | lindi-: you can, why not, there's a PMU resume reason available iirc. |
| 16:18.53 | lindi- | aha |
| 16:19.06 | lindi- | PaulFertser: but not in sysfs yet? |
| 16:19.54 | PaulFertser | lindi-: /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/resume_reason looks like what you need. |
| 16:19.58 | khiraly1 | Im writing a letter to mirko. This paroli problem have lot of info in the paroli.log, and have the same symptoms when happens |
| 16:20.16 | lindi- | PaulFertser: says '0002000000' hmm |
| 16:20.25 | khiraly1 | 0000000000 |
| 16:20.29 | khiraly1 | ^^in my case |
| 16:20.33 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i assume you need help decoding? ;) |
| 16:20.40 | lindi- | no i have the docs |
| 16:20.47 | lindi- | and I can do trial and error :) |
| 16:20.58 | khiraly1 | there are only three possibilities;) |
| 16:21.02 | khiraly1 | usb, button and nothing |
| 16:21.10 | lindi- | khiraly1: low battery |
| 16:23.51 | PaulFertser | lindi-: http://pastebin.com/m50d76558 |
| 16:24.11 | lindi- | seems I hit WSOD while experimenting with this |
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| 16:28.52 | PaulFertser | lindi-: confirmed, resume on usb gives 0400000000, as expected from reading sources. |
| 16:29.45 | lindi- | PaulFertser: do you have any idea if Qi should be possible to build on debian? (without using toolchain binary from openmoko) |
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| 16:30.04 | PaulFertser | lindi-: And you can look at include/linux/mfd/pcf50633/core.h to know values for other possible resume reasons. |
| 16:30.12 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I modified config.mk to use arm-linux-gnueabi- but now it is looking for /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.3.2/include/asm/byteorder.h which I don't have |
| 16:30.27 | PaulFertser | lindi-: It is possible. Let me see my config |
| 16:31.10 | lindi- | PaulFertser: $ apt-file search /byteorder.h | nc paste.dyndns.org 1234 |
| 16:31.10 | lindi- | http://rafb.net/p/2gdbuG38.html |
| 16:32.07 | PaulFertser | lindi-: it's from the kernel headers. You can use make headers_install linux makefile target to install it anywhere. |
| 16:32.45 | PaulFertser | lindi-: just specify the path with INSTALL_HDR_PATH |
| 16:32.55 | lindi- | PaulFertser: it needs to be for the exact kernel version I am using? |
| 16:33.08 | PaulFertser | lindi-: nope, any reasonable arm will do. |
| 16:33.20 | lindi- | ok but it needs to be arm |
| 16:33.39 | lindi- | maybe i just build Qi on arm to make it simpler :) |
| 16:33.44 | PaulFertser | lindi-: don't pretend you don't have configured arm kernel sources. |
| 16:34.04 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I do but a package can't depend on /home/lindi :) |
| 16:34.46 | PaulFertser | lindi-: how is this stuff usually solved for other programs that need kernel headers? |
| 16:35.06 | lindi- | PaulFertser: there's a package for kernel headers |
| 16:35.15 | lindi- | PaulFertser: and I Build-Depend on that |
| 16:36.02 | PaulFertser | lindi-: well, if it's for _target_ kernel headers why is there any problem? |
| 16:37.00 | lindi- | PaulFertser: no problem, i just first thought i'd cross-compile it |
| 16:37.18 | PaulFertser | lindi-: are you making a proper Qi package? |
| 16:37.32 | lindi- | PaulFertser: probably not proper but something that works :) |
| 16:37.48 | lindi- | PaulFertser: btw, couldn't /usr/include/asm/byteorder.h from linux-libc-dev be used? |
| 16:38.19 | PaulFertser | lindi-: not sure, no idea :-/ |
| 16:38.44 | lindi- | I wish programs built with ./configure && make :) |
| 16:40.28 | lindi- | PaulFertser: there's probably some trick needed to have the makefile print the commands it is running? |
| 16:42.06 | PaulFertser | lindi-: kernel makefile or any makefile? |
| 16:42.38 | lindi- | PaulFertser: Qi makefile |
| 16:42.49 | khiraly1 | ok |
| 16:43.06 | PaulFertser | lindi-: remove @ from the commands? |
| 16:43.21 | khiraly1 | Mail sended. 10 different reason fails paroli. I attached paroli.log for all of them. |
| 16:43.22 | khiraly1 | ;) |
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| 16:43.38 | lindi- | PaulFertser: ok but something like V=1 in linux? |
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| 16:44.55 | PaulFertser | lindi-: you can just echo all the commands without executing with "-n" switch |
| 16:45.21 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I'd just want the package builds logs to contain something meaningful |
| 16:45.34 | lindi- | PaulFertser: so that if somebody has a problem they can compare against that |
| 16:45.51 | lindi- | PaulFertser: now if the package patches Makefile it'll conflict with upstream changes very easily |
| 16:46.27 | PaulFertser | lindi-: If somebody really wants to build a bootloader, i wouldn't bother too much on making it end-user friendly. |
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| 16:46.43 | PaulFertser | lindi-: and imho it's already dev-friendly enough. |
| 16:47.23 | lindi- | PaulFertser: is it in some distro already? ;) |
| 16:47.34 | lindi- | PaulFertser: anyways, I hit http://rafb.net/p/G5tCwA48.html |
| 16:48.03 | PaulFertser | lindi-: what, Qi? No, not even in OE, i'm afraid. |
| 16:49.07 | PaulFertser | lindi-: not good... But you already know what to do, just start it with -v switch or even strace it... |
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| 16:50.47 | PaulFertser | I guess i know why you talk about it. You hit WSOD and decided to try to reproduce it with Qi as it anecdotically solves the issue. But you didn't find a proper package and got distracted by preparing a package :))) |
| 16:50.49 | lindi- | PaulFertser: -L/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.3/`ls /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.3` is the problem. the directory has more than one file |
| 16:51.10 | lindi- | PaulFertser: well, i'd hate to run software I can't modify easily :) |
| 16:51.56 | PaulFertser | lindi-: (`ls...) yeah, looks like a bug |
| 16:52.05 | lindi- | If I can't "apt-get source foo" on any debian system then the I need much more motivation to start making a small change |
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| 17:04.44 | lindi- | PaulFertser: seems it built. now i'll just sudo cat /dev/mtd1 > /home/lindi/mtd1.uboot.backup and then sudo nandwrite /dev/mtd1 image/qi-s3c2442-master_9ef7754b8243457c.udfu? |
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| 17:18.20 | PaulFertser | lindi-: no! |
| 17:18.28 | PaulFertser | lindi-: flasherase_all first |
| 17:19.02 | PaulFertser | lindi-: and i can't say for sure if simple cat will reliably backup the old version. |
| 17:20.47 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: I'd use dd anyway |
| 17:21.23 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: who's dd different? |
| 17:22.01 | DocScrutinizer | dunno, never bothered to find out ;-) |
| 17:22.35 | DocScrutinizer | think cat is mangling some ascii ctrl |
| 17:23.30 | PaulFertser | lindi-: there's also nanddump ;) |
| 17:24.19 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: gnu cat is binary clean |
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| 17:31.55 | lindi- | PaulFertser: hmm, which option causes the kernel not print messages on bootup? loglevel=4? |
| 17:32.08 | PaulFertser | lindi-: yes |
| 17:32.31 | PaulFertser | lindi-: but if you use /boot/append-GTA02 with loglevel=8 you'll still be able to see it. |
| 17:33.00 | lindi- | PaulFertser: does that affect even "echo foo" from init scripts? |
| 17:33.01 | PaulFertser | lindi-: no, that's the different issue |
| 17:33.04 | lindi- | I thought it was only for kernel messages |
| 17:33.15 | lindi- | PaulFertser: any idea what supresses those? |
| 17:34.17 | PaulFertser | lindi-: probably console=tty0 should be the last one to be used by default. |
| 17:35.13 | lindi- | PaulFertser: aha, their order matters? |
| 17:35.35 | lindi- | I was just running diff against old and new and was stupid enough to ignore order :) |
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| 17:36.28 | PaulFertser | lindi-: looks like it matters, not sure. |
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| 17:39.03 | lindi- | PaulFertser: so it seems |
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| 17:40.53 | selke | hi, anyone know how to set an other keyboard on shr? i want to use qwo as keyboard... |
| 17:40.53 | lindi- | ok, i can still caused WSOD and total lockup (not even debug board can halt the cpu anymore) with Qi if I try to use gdb to debug X :P |
| 17:41.13 | lindi- | (I was suspecting it had nothing to do with boot loader but had to check) |
| 17:42.23 | PaulFertser | lindi-: well, it seems it's due to the NWAIT thing :( |
| 17:42.33 | lindi- | PaulFertser: DocScrutinizer: you wouldn't know anybody whom I should specifically ask about this debug board issue? I sent mail to kernel list a few days ago already |
| 17:42.39 | lindi- | PaulFertser: NWAIT? |
| 17:43.20 | lindi- | that's some pin of jtag according to google |
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| 17:44.29 | PaulFertser | lindi-: no, that's a line connected connected to glamo by which glamo can really lock the processor. |
| 17:45.48 | lindi- | PaulFertser: argh |
| 17:45.48 | lindi- | no way :( |
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| 17:49.17 | lindi- | PaulFertser: if I set a breakpoint to GlamoRestoreHW function of xf86-video-glamo and issue "chvt 1" then gdb stops at the breakpoint and prints nice backtrace but after a few seconds everything stops |
| 17:49.56 | lindi- | PaulFertser: which sounds scary. if userland (xf86-video-glamo is userland) is too slow the whole CPU will lockup |
| 17:50.16 | PaulFertser | lindi-: glamo is scary |
| 17:51.54 | PaulFertser | lindi-: KMS will (semi-)solve that |
| 17:53.13 | lindi- | PaulFertser: it still won't make placing breakpoints with debug board very safe but that isn't safe always anyway |
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| 17:56.15 | lindi- | PaulFertser: ok, in that light KMS sounds very very important |
| 17:56.47 | PaulFertser | lindi-: try to convince Weiss then ;) |
| 17:56.58 | PaulFertser | And larsc :) |
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