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| 03:22.47 | Digital_Pioneer | Hello, Openmokians. |
| 03:23.08 | rooly | go away |
| 03:23.15 | rooly | i'm too busy gloating over my recent accomplishment |
| 03:23.33 | Digital_Pioneer | What's that? Did you increase the bandwidth to the video chip? |
| 03:23.58 | rooly | oh, pshaw, nah, i'm too busy doing cool stuff like re-wiring the headlights on my motorcycle |
| 03:24.05 | rooly | ....*headlight |
| 03:24.15 | Digital_Pioneer | Oh, pointless waste of time then. |
| 03:24.24 | Digital_Pioneer | :D |
| 03:24.54 | rooly | well, with my freerunner, i can fiddle for 2 hours to get gprs working, then use that cli program to order pizza-hut and wait another 30 minutes |
| 03:25.05 | rooly | or i can drive there on my bike and pick it up in 5 |
| 03:25.17 | Digital_Pioneer | ROFL |
| 03:25.44 | Digital_Pioneer | I wish I had a decent GPRS plan. |
| 03:25.57 | rooly | ...who said anything about having a plan |
| 03:25.59 | Digital_Pioneer | Then I too could waste 2 hours getting it working. :D |
| 03:26.04 | Digital_Pioneer | Hahah |
| 03:26.19 | rooly | it'd cost you 40 bucks for a 10$ pizza, not to mention the initial 300-400$ investment for the FR |
| 03:26.31 | rooly | HOWEVER |
| 03:26.46 | Digital_Pioneer | Yes... One would hope you use your FR for more than a mobile pizza ordering device. |
| 03:26.50 | rooly | you could show off to all your iphone buddies, "look what my phone can do" |
| 03:27.03 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheh |
| 03:27.11 | Digital_Pioneer | They're called iDrones, BTW. ;) |
| 03:27.17 | rooly | nice word |
| 03:27.36 | Digital_Pioneer | Or at least that's what I call them. Heheh |
| 03:27.50 | rooly | of course, one iphone buddy with enough gumption (and a mac) would write his own software, sell it for 3.99$ and make millions off of your idea |
| 03:28.13 | Digital_Pioneer | True. |
| 03:28.27 | rooly | but the initial investment is much much higher there |
| 03:29.05 | Digital_Pioneer | So long as he doesn't mind Apple dictating every little thing the program does, how it does it, how he licenses it, and claims a small fee for the trouble. |
| 03:29.10 | rooly | 200-600$ for the phone (plan to no contract prices), plus the 1200 base price for a mac, and up, and then 100 for the iphone sdk |
| 03:29.30 | rooly | vs 400 and some hackery |
| 03:30.01 | rooly | so hmm... |
| 03:30.13 | Digital_Pioneer | $400 max, I paid $250 for mine. (eBay) |
| 03:30.24 | rooly | right |
| 03:30.53 | rooly | not to mention variable pricing for the FR, and 120 a month for the iphone |
| 03:30.58 | Digital_Pioneer | Of course, the batteries in the pen were almost dead, so it wasn't perfect... |
| 03:31.12 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah, my FR has a GoPhone plan. |
| 03:31.14 | rooly | meh, i lost my pen within 2 months |
| 03:31.19 | Digital_Pioneer | Doesn't cost anything unless I use it that day. |
| 03:31.23 | Digital_Pioneer | Hahah |
| 03:31.24 | rooly | mine is 'on' a gophone plan right now |
| 03:31.29 | rooly | i just need to find it... |
| 03:32.08 | Digital_Pioneer | While the iBone costs about $3/day whether you use it or not. |
| 03:32.31 | Digital_Pioneer | And that's with the cheapest plan. |
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| 03:32.45 | rooly | right |
| 03:33.07 | rooly | vs as little as $.20 a day for the FR, and thats on at&t |
| 03:33.10 | Undrwater | anyone know where i can get ffmpeg? |
| 03:33.28 | rooly | possibly compile it yourself? |
| 03:33.41 | Digital_Pioneer | If you can get the toolchain working. <Evil laugh> |
| 03:33.48 | rooly | or you can compile it on the phone |
| 03:33.52 | rooly | has done that before |
| 03:34.01 | rooly | of course thats if you don't care about not being able to use it for a few days |
| 03:34.17 | Digital_Pioneer | ROFL |
| 03:34.29 | Digital_Pioneer | I can't even build hello world on mine. |
| 03:34.33 | rooly | oh? |
| 03:34.35 | rooly | why not |
| 03:34.43 | Digital_Pioneer | No iostream |
| 03:35.16 | rooly | ??? |
| 03:35.18 | Undrwater | hmm...i've got gentoo on a stick...would i be able to transfer the binaries? |
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| 03:35.39 | rooly | Undrwater: x86 or arm9 (armv4t) |
| 03:36.07 | rooly | or maybe it's powerpc |
| 03:36.22 | rooly | btw, is PPC risc or cisc |
| 03:36.48 | Undrwater | rooly: i'd emerge on the phone |
| 03:37.02 | rooly | bow-chica-bow-wow? |
| 03:37.26 | Undrwater | :D |
| 03:37.32 | Undrwater | truly sexy |
| 03:37.46 | Undrwater | all night (and day, and the next) long |
| 03:37.59 | rooly | hmm |
| 03:38.08 | rooly | i figure you'd probably take a few weeks to build |
| 03:39.00 | Undrwater | for ffmpeg? really? |
| 03:39.32 | mwester | Real Men cross compile. :p |
| 03:39.34 | rooly | oh, no, gentoo |
| 03:39.45 | rooly | mwester, real men use butterflies |
| 03:39.58 | Digital_Pioneer | mwester: Real men have outdated libtools? |
| 03:40.06 | rooly | went there |
| 03:40.35 | Undrwater | mwester: that's the easy way out! :P |
| 03:41.00 | mwester | But I admit that there's a certain amount of "wow" to the idea of compiling software on a cell phone... |
| 03:41.31 | rooly | yup |
| 03:41.35 | Digital_Pioneer | Well, I'm gonna hit the sack. Goodbye for now. When I wake up tomorrow, I want someone to have a ipk for a bluetooth GUI that will autoconfigure GSM->BT headset ready for me. |
| 03:41.40 | rooly | god, please tell me somebody got my joke |
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| 03:45.59 | Undrwater | admits he didn't get it |
| 03:49.05 | rooly | xkcd |
| 03:49.14 | rooly | real programmers use butterflies |
| 03:49.47 | Undrwater | is a social worker dammit! |
| 03:49.56 | rooly | and? |
| 03:53.17 | Undrwater | is not a real programmer |
| 03:53.30 | Undrwater | so won't get programmer jokes...? |
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| 05:13.39 | Wonka | hm... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs doesn't quite tell me where /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type has gone... anyone got an idea? |
| 05:14.25 | Wonka | /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/charger_type does not exist |
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| 05:39.20 | PaulFertser | Wonka: is information in /sys/class/power_supply/ enough for you? |
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| 06:43.13 | PaulFertser | lindi-: mokomaze author decided to build his own version of libode because the one in debian experimental is built with double precision (too slow for FR) and debug (some assertions are thrown, probably this should be fixed in mokomaze). |
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| 07:10.18 | Wonka | PaulFertser: i'm trying to fix up that battery.py script. that one read from /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type and derived the amperage the connected charger could deliver - 100mA, 500mA or 1A. I'd like to do that the "new" way. |
| 07:10.34 | Wonka | PaulFertser: didn't yet find the correct place |
| 07:14.24 | PaulFertser | Wonka: well, i'll try to find that out then. |
| 07:15.14 | Wonka | PaulFertser: thanks :) |
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| 07:29.24 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 07:35.44 | PaulFertser | Wonka: are you interested in full description (that i'm yet to find out) or in the git commits that affect that? |
| 07:36.18 | Wonka | PaulFertser: both won't hurt, but the latter might be enough |
| 07:37.16 | Wonka | PaulFertser: if I had had to find out myself, I would have tried to find out which commits had removed /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type and where the functionality went |
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| 07:38.39 | PaulFertser | Wonka: well, the idea is that charger type was available from the old sensors-based pcf50633 (last commit removing it 6fde2330ccdf7a6817b664702c4c5e4c7e61a054). Currently we use a new mbc-model driver which has separate parts for ADC etc. So give me some time to see how the information is available from it. |
| 07:39.55 | Wonka | PaulFertser: of course :) |
| 07:40.22 | Wonka | is at work atm and that work is not OM related... |
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| 07:43.16 | PaulFertser | Wonka: same for me :) |
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| 07:46.46 | khiraly1 | hmm |
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| 07:50.36 | PaulFertser | Wonka: it looks like that information is no longer accessible from userspace. But if you insert a wall-charger, the kernel will promptly set 1000 for usb current limit (and chg_limut). |
| 07:53.01 | khiraly1 | PaulFertser: are you using your phone from SD card? |
| 07:53.57 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: yes |
| 07:54.30 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: and i'm using Qi |
| 07:55.50 | PaulFertser | Wonka: so, what else do you need to get from the kernel? If you're interested in the raw ADC value, i guess you'll have to make a kernel patch for that. |
| 07:56.37 | khiraly1 | PaulFertser: and what distro? |
| 07:56.53 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: Debian |
| 07:57.05 | khiraly1 | aie |
| 07:57.13 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: but it can't affect booting in any way. |
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| 07:57.33 | khiraly1 | Im out of idea why my om2009 cant boot |
| 07:58.10 | khiraly1 | maybe I will try to install shr on sd, and erase shr from NAND |
| 07:59.01 | khiraly1 | hmm, just read you answered on mailing list |
| 07:59.12 | khiraly1 | ok. Im trying it right now |
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| 08:03.18 | PaulFertser | khiraly1: what kernel messages do you see with loglevel=8? |
| 08:03.28 | khiraly11 | one observation, as Im using uboot from NOR (because Qi in NAND try to boot the broken om2009 image from sd), the phone appears as usb0 before that it appeared as eth1 |
| 08:03.49 | khiraly11 | PaulFertser: sorry, just network manager crashed when I plugged in my neo |
| 08:03.50 | khiraly11 | ;-\ |
| 08:04.01 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: yeah, it used to be usb0 but now eth1 is persistent. |
| 08:04.17 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: hm, the idea of loglevel=8 is to see everything on FR's screen. |
| 08:04.22 | khiraly11 | PaulFertser: u-boot = usb0; Qi=eth1 ? |
| 08:04.29 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: to be able to diagnose unable to mount root problems etc. |
| 08:04.52 | khiraly11 | PaulFertser: yepp, that what I want. To see where it stuck |
| 08:04.55 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: not exactly. Modern Qi+modern image results in eth1. |
| 08:05.50 | khiraly11 | with loglevel=8 I see only the messages, what I wrote on the mailing list. |
| 08:06.05 | khiraly11 | but, it was with the newlines |
| 08:06.24 | khiraly11 | ok. Let me try one more time. I write everything into one line as suggested |
| 08:06.25 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: then it was wrong obviously and didn't had effect. |
| 08:06.41 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: one line and no extra spaces around = is critical. |
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| 08:08.07 | khiraly11 | PaulFertser: should I have some newlines at the end of append-GTA02? |
| 08:08.11 | khiraly11 | or does not matter? |
| 08:08.22 | khiraly11 | ok, time to try out |
| 08:08.47 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: i'd put a trailing space at the end of the first line (there was a bug that is fixed for some time, but i'm not sure you're running a recent version) |
| 08:09.02 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: otherwise, trailing newlines are not necessary. |
| 08:09.09 | khiraly11 | from Qi Im running the latest what I could find |
| 08:09.17 | khiraly11 | Ok I have one new line |
| 08:09.39 | khiraly11 | yepp I have more verbose output |
| 08:10.19 | khiraly11 | [214xxxx] Freeing init memory: 132K |
| 08:10.28 | khiraly11 | it stuck a little bit, but it continous now |
| 08:10.47 | khiraly11 | doh |
| 08:10.57 | khiraly11 | I got Angstrom logo and console login |
| 08:11.23 | khiraly11 | now everything is black. I assume e starts! |
| 08:11.24 | khiraly11 | finally |
| 08:12.13 | khiraly11 | Super;) |
| 08:13.48 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: so, what was the problem then? |
| 08:13.53 | Wonka | PaulFertser: it's not that I _need_ that value - it was shown before, so I wanted to port that functionality to the new interface. I'll modify battery.py so it shows chg_curlim... |
| 08:14.11 | khiraly11 | the append-GTA02 file contained loglevel = 8 with spaces |
| 08:14.15 | khiraly11 | and multiple line |
| 08:14.51 | khiraly11 | ok, now paroli is in fullscreen |
| 08:15.06 | PaulFertser | Wonka: if you need anything particular that can be understood by reading the sources, feel free to ask. |
| 08:15.06 | khiraly11 | I'll try to edit the config file. Saw somewhere I can disable it |
| 08:15.20 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: it is the very last setting in the file |
| 08:15.31 | mirko-paroli | you'll need to restart paroli though |
| 08:15.38 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: i wouldn't recommend running with high loglevel, it affects performance of boot and suspend/resume considerably. |
| 08:15.59 | Wonka | PaulFertser: will do :) |
| 08:16.06 | khiraly11 | PaulFertser: I will erase then. Now, that it boots |
| 08:16.19 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: why didn't it boot without append-GTA02? |
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| 08:17.40 | khiraly11 | no idea. I do not remember I even tried to boot without append-GTA02. I saw append-GTA02 on the wiki and created one I think |
| 08:17.54 | khiraly11 | but do not remember exactly |
| 08:18.25 | khiraly11 | and I booted with the separate uImage, which can be downloaded separately. (and not the one which comes with the .tar.gz) |
| 08:18.33 | khiraly11 | dont know which way is the correct |
| 08:19.22 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: the correct way is to compile the kernel from source like all the real men do ;) |
| 08:19.44 | khiraly11 | doh. Not correct. |
| 08:20.11 | khiraly11 | We all have the same hardware. So why every member should figure out the "one true kernel config" ? |
| 08:20.24 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: there's kernel defconfig for you. |
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| 08:21.01 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: compiling from source allows you to easily test patches/various versions, look up particular details in the source etc. |
| 08:21.01 | khiraly11 | in the PC worls you are right, I can costumize the kernel image. But here, as everyone has the same hardware, we should have only one .config |
| 08:21.47 | khiraly11 | its one reason, but Im not testing the kernel but a distribution (which should shipped with a correct kernel) |
| 08:22.36 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: now as you know how to properly use Qi, i suggest you repeat the test with the kernel included in the distro, if it doesn't work, try to analise the problem and report a bug to distro maintainer. |
| 08:24.51 | khiraly11 | hmm. I have [advanced-mode] activated=True in /etc/paroli/paroli.cfg. But it is fullscreen |
| 08:25.13 | khiraly11 | and the last setting is [error-message] |
| 08:25.16 | PaulFertser | khiraly11: now hold the AUX till you see the menu |
| 08:25.28 | PaulFertser | Or smth like that |
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| 08:26.14 | khiraly11 | not working |
| 08:26.27 | khiraly11 | with the power button goes to suspend |
| 08:26.38 | PaulFertser | Well, follow the white rabbit^W^W instructions recently posted on the ML. |
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| 08:27.11 | khiraly11 | works faster than shr |
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| 08:30.02 | khiraly11 | how to restart paroli btw? |
| 08:31.18 | PaulFertser | Hm, you haven't restarted it after doing a config change? |
| 08:31.37 | khiraly11 | maybe [standalone] interfere with [advanced-mode] |
| 08:32.02 | khiraly11 | PaulFertser: I didnt change the config, because the [advanced-mode] was already set (True) |
| 08:32.20 | khiraly11 | but how to restart it btw? |
| 08:32.28 | khiraly11 | from commandline (ssh) |
| 08:32.54 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: what exactly do you want to configure? |
| 08:33.11 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: i do not want paroli in fullscreen |
| 08:33.15 | mirko-paroli | k |
| 08:33.17 | khiraly11 | so windows mode |
| 08:33.20 | mirko-paroli | do you have settings enabled? |
| 08:33.28 | khiraly11 | how can I check it? |
| 08:33.28 | jc2 | mirko-paroli: how do I pick up a call? |
| 08:33.33 | mirko-paroli | it is the last entry in the config file |
| 08:33.47 | mirko-paroli | jc2: a window will open and you click on answer |
| 08:34.01 | jc2 | em.... |
| 08:34.04 | mirko-paroli | if the window does not appear you have a bug in the framework, do an opkg update and then upgrade |
| 08:34.06 | jc2 | didn't see that. |
| 08:34.41 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: http://pastebin.ca/1414036 |
| 08:34.50 | khiraly11 | ^^this is my /etc/paroli/paroli.cfg |
| 08:35.07 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: ah sry it is the second last |
| 08:35.15 | mirko-paroli | [settings] |
| 08:35.18 | mirko-paroli | set that to true |
| 08:35.19 | mirko-paroli | True |
| 08:35.49 | mirko-paroli | and the easiest way to restart p is to reboot |
| 08:36.02 | khiraly11 | ok, the second easiest? |
| 08:36.23 | mirko-paroli | change the profile manually and then use the .desktop file ;) |
| 08:37.03 | khiraly11 | what is profile? |
| 08:37.19 | khiraly11 | something in ~/.paroli dir? |
| 08:37.24 | mirko-paroli | are you on the cmd line on the phone ? |
| 08:37.32 | khiraly11 | yepp. via ssh |
| 08:37.35 | mirko-paroli | k |
| 08:37.36 | mirko-paroli | do |
| 08:37.38 | mirko-paroli | export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 08:37.40 | mirko-paroli | and then |
| 08:37.47 | mirko-paroli | mdbus org.enlightenment.wm.service /org/enlightenment/wm/RemoteObject org.enlightenment.wm.Profile.Set |
| 08:37.48 | mirko-paroli | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:37.52 | mirko-paroli | all in one line |
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| 08:38.18 | khiraly11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:38.19 | khiraly11 | Object org.enlightenment.wm.Profile.Set illume |
| 08:38.21 | khiraly11 | doh |
| 08:38.25 | khiraly11 | ok, all in one line |
| 08:38.33 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 08:38.34 | jc2 | mirko-paroli: do an opkg update could fix that? |
| 08:38.47 | mirko-paroli | jc2: opkg update and then opkg upgrade |
| 08:38.48 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: btw, what ringtone OM2009 uses by default? Because if it's mp3 it can slow down things, iirc. |
| 08:39.01 | mirko-paroli | PaulFertser: I am not sure, let me check |
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| 08:39.11 | khiraly11 | it tooks about 4-5 sec but I got back the command line |
| 08:39.15 | jc2 | mirko-paroli: that's what I mean. btw, will this be fixed? |
| 08:39.21 | khiraly11 | but what should happen on the phone? |
| 08:39.29 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: and ogsmd DEBUG shouldn't be enabled for the fast response times. |
| 08:39.46 | mirko-paroli | PaulFertser: most of these are issues for angus ;) |
| 08:39.57 | mirko-paroli | jc2: this is fixed, just not on your image ;) |
| 08:39.58 | khiraly11 | oh. It diesappears and reappears. (drawing from top to bottom) |
| 08:40.19 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: you should have the usual illume screen now |
| 08:40.29 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: yeah, i know. Just fyi ;) |
| 08:40.34 | mirko-paroli | hehe |
| 08:40.37 | khiraly11 | but I got the same screen as before |
| 08:41.06 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: what does |
| 08:41.09 | mirko-paroli | mdbus org.enlightenment.wm.service /org/enlightenment/wm/RemoteObject org.enlightenment.wm.Profile.Lis |
| 08:41.11 | mirko-paroli | t |
| 08:41.11 | jc2 | mirko-paroli: that's too bad, I found something already fixed. Now I have to find another one. |
| 08:41.12 | mirko-paroli | give you ? |
| 08:42.41 | khiraly11 | ['paroli', 'default', 'illume'] |
| 08:42.48 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: ok |
| 08:43.24 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: mdbus org.enlightenment.wm.service /org/enlightenment/wm/RemoteObject org.enlightenment.wm.Profile.Get |
| 08:43.43 | khiraly11 | 'paroli' |
| 08:43.52 | khiraly11 | root@om-gta02:~# mdbus org.enlightenment.wm.service /org/enlightenment/wm/Remote |
| 08:43.52 | khiraly11 | Object org.enlightenment.wm.Profile.Get |
| 08:43.52 | khiraly11 | 'paroli' |
| 08:43.52 | khiraly11 | root@om-gta02:~# |
| 08:44.23 | mirko-paroli | hm |
| 08:44.37 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: which image do you have? |
| 08:46.08 | khiraly11 | http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.tar.gz |
| 08:46.42 | khiraly11 | and with uImage from: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0+f19f259d3c1afde8eae53983fd19f61831927413-r2-om-gta02.bin |
| 08:46.56 | khiraly11 | copied over, and made a symlink as uImage-GTA02.bin |
| 08:47.01 | khiraly11 | (in /boot) |
| 08:47.29 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: more cmd line: cat /usr/bin/x-window-manager |
| 08:48.08 | khiraly11 | http://pastebin.com/m404f933e |
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| 08:49.15 | mirko-paroli | do you have the folder .e in ~ ? |
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| 08:49.47 | khiraly11 | yepp |
| 08:49.52 | mirko-paroli | very strange |
| 08:50.07 | khiraly11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.09 | khiraly11 | and many file |
| 08:50.10 | khiraly11 | s |
| 08:50.17 | mirko-paroli | that the profile doesn't change after you told it to usually means that enlightenment can not find what you just stored |
| 08:50.26 | mirko-paroli | and thus goes back to the standard thing |
| 08:50.30 | mirko-paroli | which in this case is paroli |
| 08:50.44 | mirko-paroli | k |
| 08:50.54 | khiraly11 | ok. I tar.gz up this dir, and put online |
| 08:51.06 | mirko-paroli | vi /etc/enlightenment/default_profile |
| 08:51.12 | mirko-paroli | and change paroli to illume |
| 08:51.22 | mirko-paroli | as you probably don't want paroli in fullscreen anyhow ;) |
| 08:51.31 | mirko-paroli | it is just my wild guess though ;) |
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| 08:51.50 | khiraly11 | E_PROFILE="-profile paroli" |
| 08:51.54 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 08:52.00 | khiraly11 | to E_PROFILE="-profile illume" |
| 08:52.02 | khiraly11 | ? |
| 08:52.04 | mirko-paroli | yepp |
| 08:52.12 | mirko-paroli | and then |
| 08:52.25 | mirko-paroli | mdbus org.enlightenment.wm.service /org/enlightenment/wm/RemoteObject org.enlightenment.wm.Profile.Set |
| 08:52.27 | mirko-paroli | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:53.24 | khiraly11 | doh |
| 08:53.42 | khiraly11 | after about 10 sec, the paroli screen disappears and come back as before |
| 08:53.45 | khiraly11 | no change |
| 08:53.52 | Blackhex | Hello everyone. Since I'm not educated in mobile technologies, I would like to ask what is a theoretical maximal transfer rate of Neo Freerunner's through GPRS, please? |
| 08:53.53 | khiraly11 | I tried to push the AUX button, but no luck |
| 08:53.54 | mirko-paroli | huh? |
| 08:54.03 | mirko-paroli | do you have the top-shelf ? |
| 08:54.11 | khiraly11 | no |
| 08:54.19 | mirko-paroli | ehm |
| 08:54.26 | mirko-paroli | whatever you did on the phone ... |
| 08:54.34 | mirko-paroli | doesn't get it |
| 08:54.45 | khiraly11 | [loudspeaker icon] default [space] [coverage icon] [battery icon] |
| 08:55.07 | khiraly11 | Ok. I restart the phone |
| 08:55.11 | khiraly11 | to see what happens |
| 08:55.11 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 08:55.13 | mirko-paroli | good plan |
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| 08:55.25 | khiraly11 | how to switch off by the way?;) |
| 08:55.31 | khiraly11 | long push on power button? |
| 08:55.31 | mirko-paroli | take out the energy source |
| 08:55.45 | mirko-paroli | means remove |
| 08:55.57 | khiraly11 | doh, I just put back the back cover |
| 08:56.35 | khiraly11 | ok, it is booting again |
| 08:57.33 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r64d217f36777 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: |
| 08:57.33 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: [#418] Add support for errors in XML specs |
| 08:57.33 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 08:58.05 | mirko-paroli | btw anyone knows what this means :Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 |
| 08:58.45 | khiraly11 | hmm |
| 08:58.51 | khiraly11 | no top shelf |
| 08:59.07 | mirko-paroli | my guess is, that there is sth odd with you installation |
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| 08:59.35 | khiraly11 | ok. now when I push the aux button for two sec |
| 08:59.42 | khiraly11 | I get phone and display |
| 08:59.42 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07specs * rc99fd5ff6030 10/ (Makefile opim/Makefile): |
| 08:59.42 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Fix Makefiles to include opimd specs |
| 08:59.43 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 08:59.48 | khiraly11 | I think display should I choose |
| 09:00.07 | mirko-paroli | yepp |
| 09:00.17 | khiraly11 | after I have profile paroli |
| 09:00.20 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 09:00.24 | mirko-paroli | if you hit that once |
| 09:00.35 | khiraly11 | ok illume now |
| 09:00.50 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07specs * r4214e36ddd05 10/otapi/org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.xml.in: |
| 09:00.50 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Publish GSM.Call errordomains and throws specifications |
| 09:00.50 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 09:01.22 | khiraly11 | o yeah |
| 09:01.32 | khiraly11 | I have virtual desktops too. What the heck |
| 09:01.35 | mirko-paroli | ah |
| 09:01.37 | mirko-paroli | ok |
| 09:01.41 | mirko-paroli | odd that it didn't work before |
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| 09:02.28 | khiraly11 | hmm. I need to write the phone number before the actual message? |
| 09:02.38 | khiraly11 | doh |
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| 09:03.23 | khiraly11 | cant push the next button |
| 09:03.33 | mirko-paroli | it is a bit tricky, I admit |
| 09:03.36 | mirko-paroli | but it works |
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| 09:05.25 | khiraly11 | hmm, no feedback on next button, and I resulted saving two empy message, and got a strange music out of the device |
| 09:05.35 | mirko-paroli | LOL |
| 09:05.46 | mirko-paroli | the strange music was probably an incoming sms |
| 09:06.10 | khiraly11 | yeah, the only content was NEW |
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| 09:06.20 | mirko-paroli | once you hit the send button the display is blocked |
| 09:06.26 | mirko-paroli | and it says "sending" |
| 09:06.31 | khiraly11 | hmm. shame on me. I sended (accidentally) on my own number |
| 09:06.40 | khiraly11 | no wasnt any send button |
| 09:07.13 | khiraly11 | I just typed the phone number (by the way why I should write the phonenumber before the message?), and tapped on the next |
| 09:07.28 | mirko-paroli | after that window you get to the actuall writing of the message |
| 09:07.29 | khiraly11 | nothing happened. Tapped again, and again. And with a stylus too |
| 09:07.45 | mirko-paroli | ah |
| 09:07.48 | khiraly11 | and got two incoming sms one with empty. And other with NEW content |
| 09:07.50 | khiraly11 | i think |
| 09:08.01 | mirko-paroli | so you might have pressed send right away |
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| 09:08.41 | khiraly11 | maybe, but not appeared the another window. I even could delete some number from the phone number |
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| 09:09.25 | khiraly11 | and have difficulty how to get a keyboard without the illume top shelf |
| 09:09.55 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 09:10.01 | mirko-paroli | in paroli it is opened once needed |
| 09:10.07 | mirko-paroli | in any other app I think there is issues |
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| 09:11.54 | khiraly11 | how can I cancel the text in the default keyboard layout. |
| 09:12.09 | mirko-paroli | delete text? |
| 09:12.16 | mirko-paroli | swipe to the left on the keyboard |
| 09:12.32 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * rcb02f826ff01 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: |
| 09:12.32 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Fix method names that are registered names |
| 09:12.34 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 09:13.04 | khiraly11 | not working. I get random characters pop up |
| 09:13.19 | khiraly11 | in a zoom window |
| 09:13.31 | mirko-paroli | I believe than your swipe is not long and fast enough |
| 09:13.49 | khiraly11 | ahh |
| 09:13.51 | khiraly11 | I get it |
| 09:14.47 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * r08467310f180 10/src/Makefile.am: |
| 09:14.47 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Add PIM specs to the build |
| 09:14.47 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 09:14.48 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * r44c32a8a0aae 10/src/ (5 files): |
| 09:14.48 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Regenerated from specs |
| 09:14.49 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 09:14.51 | khiraly11 | I definietly need a dict for this keyboard |
| 09:15.06 | khiraly11 | typing english is so much fun |
| 09:15.18 | khiraly11 | but not in my native language. Is pain in the ass |
| 09:17.12 | khiraly11 | hmm. I succesfully started paroli two times |
| 09:19.40 | khiraly11 | accents got question marks in the msg view window |
| 09:19.40 | khiraly11 | s/got/becomes |
| 09:19.49 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: yepp that is an encoding prob |
| 09:19.55 | mirko-paroli | i am more or less on it ;) |
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| 09:20.41 | khiraly11 | this Next button is so small, and no feedback, that is really hard to interact with |
| 09:21.03 | khiraly11 | I believe i pressed on the right spot, but I fear I will send an empty message, if I try again |
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| 09:22.01 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: if it helps I am editing it right now |
| 09:22.19 | khiraly11 | I can update it from the phone, no? |
| 09:22.25 | khiraly11 | like git, or something |
| 09:22.29 | mirko-paroli | yepp after the next build |
| 09:22.32 | mirko-paroli | you get the opkg |
| 09:22.35 | mirko-paroli | or oyu checkout the git |
| 09:22.37 | mirko-paroli | sure |
| 09:22.46 | mirko-paroli | but then it would be hard to launch from the desktop |
| 09:22.56 | mirko-paroli | or at least involve some niftiness |
| 09:23.02 | khiraly11 | hmm |
| 09:23.59 | khiraly11 | it is plain python |
| 09:24.13 | khiraly11 | I could just overwrite the files on my system |
| 09:25.16 | mirko-paroli | sure |
| 09:25.29 | mirko-paroli | I just find it nasty having to do that all the time |
| 09:25.31 | mirko-paroli | but yeah |
| 09:25.35 | mirko-paroli | in theory no prob at all |
| 09:26.22 | khiraly11 | hmm. I called myself and exactly 3 sec after I accepted the phonecall when the ringtones stopped |
| 09:27.06 | khiraly11 | ok, the vibration is instantly just the ringtone |
| 09:27.17 | khiraly11 | is paroli has a settings somewhere? |
| 09:27.31 | khiraly11 | or just I/O, People, Tele, Msgs what I have, |
| 09:27.32 | khiraly11 | ? |
| 09:28.02 | mirko-paroli | settings is on aux |
| 09:28.02 | khiraly11 | ahh, rtfm |
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| 09:29.23 | khiraly11 | yepp, I need 3 sec of pushing it |
| 09:29.34 | khiraly11 | but where it gets the ringtone? |
| 09:30.57 | mirko-paroli | the ringtone comes from the framework |
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| 09:31.08 | mirko-paroli | there are currently no settings |
| 09:31.10 | mirko-paroli | they are in the works |
| 09:32.02 | khiraly11 | how can I verify that it is not in mp3/ogg/etc format but plain .wav? |
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| 09:32.18 | khiraly11 | need an mc on this phone |
| 09:32.35 | mirko-paroli | it is either an ogg or a sid |
| 09:32.37 | mirko-paroli | no wav |
| 09:32.58 | khiraly11 | I want to convert it to wav, maybe it will be more responsible |
| 09:35.22 | khiraly11 | I need a mc, cant find via opkg |
| 09:35.35 | khiraly11 | Its so difficult to discover the filesystem. |
| 09:37.00 | khiraly11 | there is none |
| 09:37.28 | khiraly11 | ahh found it |
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| 09:41.46 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: how can I restart fso-frameworkd? |
| 09:42.00 | mirko-paroli | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:43.31 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07specs * r7b61d8811368 10/otapi/org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.xml.in: |
| 09:43.31 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Rename 'call_status' to 'call_details' and rename CallStatusEnum |
| 09:43.31 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 09:43.46 | khiraly11 | hmm. I have no luck today |
| 09:44.03 | khiraly11 | after restarting it the screen is black, and dont react to anything |
| 09:44.14 | khiraly11 | I removed the battery |
| 09:46.38 | khiraly11 | hmm I need to manually start paroli (clicking on the paroli icon) |
| 09:47.01 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * rf9551ac7c7cd 10/src/freesmartphone-gsm.vala: |
| 09:47.01 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Report call status renaming accordingly |
| 09:47.01 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 09:48.45 | khiraly11 | doh |
| 09:48.52 | khiraly11 | I succesfully started paroli two times |
| 09:49.16 | khiraly11 | when I called my phone I was in the wrong paroli. Could not answer the phone call |
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| 09:53.18 | Weiss | d'oh |
| 09:53.33 | Weiss | khiraly11: my phone did that this morning, as well. coincidence? |
| 09:53.41 | Weiss | (maybe related to the TV switching off thing) |
| 09:54.56 | khiraly11 | and after the active paroli throw a lot of dbus error message |
| 09:55.02 | khiraly11 | and I cant call the phone. |
| 09:55.11 | khiraly11 | Im restarting, and will a bit more patient |
| 09:55.20 | khiraly11 | (dont start paroli manually) |
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| 09:56.50 | khiraly11 | yeah. It starts automatically just so slow, I thought it didnt start |
| 09:57.01 | khiraly11 | like a minute or so |
| 10:00.47 | khiraly11 | this windowed paroli does not seem to work fine |
| 10:01.02 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: it works just as the the other |
| 10:01.08 | mirko-paroli | as both of them are actually windowed |
| 10:01.09 | khiraly11 | when I call the phone it ring and vibrate but the default screen is on |
| 10:01.31 | mirko-paroli | can you check what it says in /var/log/paroli.log |
| 10:01.36 | mirko-paroli | the last 10 - 20 lines |
| 10:01.37 | khiraly11 | of course |
| 10:01.59 | mirko-paroli | th |
| 10:02.01 | mirko-paroli | x |
| 10:03.47 | ndnihil | cant answer calls unless paroli is already running |
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| 10:08.50 | mirko-paroli | ndnihil: ? |
| 10:09.11 | ndnihil | I have to keep paroli running to answer calls |
| 10:09.25 | mirko-paroli | ndnihil: what else would accept phone-calls? |
| 10:09.50 | mirko-paroli | you mean you need to have the winow open ? |
| 10:09.55 | ndnihil | yes |
| 10:10.03 | ndnihil | it doesnt automatically start when a call comes in |
| 10:10.04 | mirko-paroli | the next testing image will have a dialog when you close the launcher window |
| 10:10.16 | mirko-paroli | asking if you want to keep paroli running in the backgroudn |
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| 10:10.33 | mirko-paroli | if paroli switches off, you deregister from you mobile provider |
| 10:10.59 | khiraly11 | http://pastebin.ca/1414090 |
| 10:11.02 | ndnihil | it rings without paroli running |
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| 10:12.00 | khiraly11 | I restart my phone |
| 10:12.08 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: do you need anything else? |
| 10:12.28 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: nope that'll give me enough to ponder on ;) |
| 10:12.30 | mirko-paroli | thx |
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| 10:15.12 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: something in the framework had timed out |
| 10:15.48 | mirko-paroli | thinks the testing image is more unstable than our unstable images ;) |
| 10:15.53 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: ayt? |
| 10:15.57 | ndnihil | do the power and aux buttons with in the next testing image? |
| 10:16.20 | ndnihil | er |
| 10:16.23 | ndnihil | s/with/work/ |
| 10:16.25 | ndnihil | shakes his head |
| 10:17.02 | mirko-paroli | ndnihil: the aux button does work, the display of the action might not be accurate in that image |
| 10:17.10 | mirko-paroli | the power button does result in suspend |
| 10:17.19 | mirko-paroli | the power down rule however is buggy |
| 10:17.21 | ndnihil | not on the image I'm using |
| 10:17.33 | ndnihil | it's the unstable you linked me to the other night |
| 10:17.46 | mirko-paroli | today's unstable? |
| 10:17.54 | mirko-paroli | ah |
| 10:17.55 | mirko-paroli | hmm |
| 10:18.12 | ndnihil | 0504 |
| 10:18.20 | ndnihil | was the date on the files |
| 10:18.42 | mirko-paroli | the profile in the top-left corner does not change when you press the aus button? |
| 10:18.44 | mirko-paroli | aux |
| 10:19.44 | ndnihil | throws exception handler for dbus |
| 10:19.52 | ndnihil | aux does |
| 10:20.37 | mirko-paroli | ? |
| 10:20.54 | ndnihil | in paroli.log |
| 10:21.16 | mirko-paroli | k then it is probably only the display that is not updated |
| 10:21.20 | ndnihil | when I press aux, it does some retreiving speaker status stuff, then 2009-05-06 06:20:01,964 dbus.connection ERROR Exception in handler for D-Bus signal: |
| 10:21.25 | mirko-paroli | oh |
| 10:21.27 | mirko-paroli | sry |
| 10:21.40 | mirko-paroli | what are the lines after that? |
| 10:23.00 | ndnihil | http://pastebin.com/d390a6074 |
| 10:24.39 | ndnihil | and the power button suspends, but only when paroli is running |
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| 10:26.33 | ndnihil | and I still haven't figured out how to use the alarm thing when you slide the clock to the right |
| 10:27.37 | ndnihil | can toggle it off and on, but not set the time |
| 10:30.06 | mirko-paroli | i just noticed it doesn't play any sound anyhow ... |
| 10:30.07 | mirko-paroli | darn |
| 10:30.21 | mirko-paroli | if you don't do it yourself :) |
| 10:31.02 | mirko-paroli | ndnihil: for now and please note I desperately want to change this |
| 10:31.09 | mirko-paroli | if you click on alarm on |
| 10:31.12 | mirko-paroli | and then hit the clock |
| 10:31.18 | mirko-paroli | the colon will start blinking |
| 10:31.23 | mirko-paroli | you can then set the alarm time |
| 10:31.28 | mirko-paroli | hit the clock again and the alarm is set |
| 10:31.46 | mirko-paroli | however there is something fishy there, so that it doesn't play a sound |
| 10:32.00 | mirko-paroli | I'll put time and alarm setting on the agenda for today |
| 10:32.05 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: did the log helped? |
| 10:32.24 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: I believe it is an issue that I solved last night |
| 10:32.29 | mirko-paroli | someone else was having the same prob |
| 10:32.35 | SpeedEvil | maybe if you turn alarm on/off, the clock blinks the alarm time for a few seconds to let you change it? |
| 10:32.48 | SpeedEvil | (random thoughts, caveats are again I've not used paroli) |
| 10:33.08 | mirko-paroli | SpeedEvil: I want to create the standard thing in settings |
| 10:33.10 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: is in the git already? |
| 10:33.15 | mirko-paroli | plain and simple time setting |
| 10:33.17 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: yepp |
| 10:33.46 | mirko-paroli | k a cig and then 90min break |
| 10:33.57 | SpeedEvil | mirko-paroli: makes sense |
| 10:34.14 | khiraly11 | hmm |
| 10:34.25 | mirko-paroli | the settings app was added later hence we had to have a way to make it work right away first |
| 10:34.34 | mirko-paroli | but someone that didn't work out too well ... |
| 10:34.41 | khiraly11 | make tele not wait for cpu resource |
| 10:34.46 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 10:34.59 | mirko-paroli | that is part of it |
| 10:35.04 | khiraly11 | ok, I git checkout, and see where should i overwrite in the system |
| 10:35.17 | mirko-paroli | uu that is tough |
| 10:35.34 | khiraly11 | all over the place? |
| 10:35.50 | mirko-paroli | well 2 places and you might need to recompile the edje files |
| 10:36.36 | khiraly11 | I can recompile the edje files on the phone, no? |
| 10:36.47 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * rb6c46e162acc 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: |
| 10:36.47 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Enable parameter structs description |
| 10:36.47 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 10:36.56 | mirko-paroli | yepp one sec |
| 10:37.52 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: can you git on the phone? |
| 10:38.13 | khiraly11 | do it have git? |
| 10:38.24 | khiraly11 | I have ssh access and network set up (via usb) |
| 10:38.38 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07specs * r54e826af51c9 10/otapi/org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.xml.in: |
| 10:38.38 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Explicit CallDetail struct |
| 10:38.38 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 10:38.55 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * r0605fce6be5e 10/src/freesmartphone-gsm.vala: |
| 10:38.55 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Explicit CallDetail struct |
| 10:38.55 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 10:40.02 | khiraly11 | I have internet on the phone, but opkg says for everything: * Cannot find package git |
| 10:40.12 | khiraly11 | but i can ping google.com for example |
| 10:40.18 | mirko-paroli | opkg update |
| 10:40.40 | khiraly11 | ok it is downloading Packages.gz |
| 10:40.49 | khiraly11 | * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4/Packages.gz, error 404 |
| 10:41.18 | khiraly11 | shouldn't be experimental? (and not testing) |
| 10:41.25 | mirko-paroli | unstable |
| 10:41.30 | mirko-paroli | but that doesn't matter |
| 10:41.35 | mirko-paroli | git shouldn't have changed |
| 10:41.45 | mirko-paroli | don't try to upgrade from testing to unstable |
| 10:41.57 | khiraly11 | ok i dont |
| 10:41.58 | mirko-paroli | that'll break it |
| 10:42.56 | khiraly11 | this directory does not exists: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4/ |
| 10:43.09 | khiraly11 | of course it fails to fetch Packages.gz |
| 10:43.35 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 10:43.40 | mirko-paroli | you can ignore that one |
| 10:43.41 | khiraly11 | it is not a typo? |
| 10:43.44 | mirko-paroli | nope |
| 10:43.45 | khiraly11 | armv4 vs. armv4t |
| 10:43.54 | mirko-paroli | armv4t is also there |
| 10:43.57 | khiraly11 | it is downloading (the git) |
| 10:44.00 | mirko-paroli | not sure why the other is still there |
| 10:44.02 | mirko-paroli | ok |
| 10:44.07 | mirko-paroli | I just comitted the launcher script |
| 10:44.22 | mirko-paroli | in the commit message it says what ya need to do :) |
| 10:44.24 | khiraly11 | to prevent launching paroli two timeS? |
| 10:44.28 | mirko-paroli | ehm no |
| 10:44.46 | mirko-paroli | I have troubles with dbus so that'll take a bit |
| 10:45.29 | mirko-paroli | http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=summary |
| 10:45.30 | mirko-paroli | k |
| 10:45.38 | mirko-paroli | will take a break here |
| 10:45.41 | mirko-paroli | hope it works out |
| 10:45.45 | mirko-paroli | will be back late |
| 10:45.46 | mirko-paroli | r |
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| 10:45.57 | khiraly11 | ok, I will report |
| 10:46.03 | mirko-paroli | k thx |
| 10:46.04 | mirko-paroli | :) |
| 10:46.12 | khiraly11 | and I need to figure out where to look for the .desktop files |
| 10:46.12 | mirko-paroli | bye |
| 10:46.16 | khiraly11 | google time |
| 10:46.21 | khiraly11 | bye |
| 10:46.23 | mirko-paroli | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.35 | mirko-paroli | cya |
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| 10:50.12 | khiraly11 | omg, git is 39MB |
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| 10:52.04 | skamster_ | hello there.. i had a little question.. i want to work with toolchain to compile a project (opendoom).. so i was looking in the wiki, but in the step with setup-env ist a problem.. there is no setup-env-file.. |
| 10:52.11 | skamster_ | had someone a idea? |
| 10:52.27 | skamster_ | is the name changed? |
| 10:52.36 | skamster_ | or must i download this file seperatly?= |
| 10:55.34 | PaulFertser | skamster_: are you sure you don't want to use OE? |
| 10:56.01 | PaulFertser | skamster_: minimal toolchain is ok for kernel or bootloader, where there's no or little dependencies. |
| 10:56.20 | skamster_ | mmh, don't know exactly what's oe.. i just read this: http://unsyncopated.com/BrainSolvent/Doom%20Port/Development%20Comments |
| 10:56.32 | PaulFertser | skamster_: and in case you want to use OE, there's a convenience makefile called SHRMakefile to setup everything for you. |
| 10:56.37 | PaulFertser | skamster_: OE == OpenEmbedded |
| 10:57.01 | skamster_ | ah, ok.. that's nice :D |
| 10:57.14 | skamster_ | is it easy to install on ubuntu? |
| 10:58.20 | PaulFertser | skamster_: it is usually easy, esp. for a programmer. From time to time OE is broken though... Just go to shr-project.org and look at "Building" section. |
| 11:01.35 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * r69dddc117da6 10/ (4 files): |
| 11:01.35 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Fixed pkgconfig name to fso-glib-1.0.pc |
| 11:01.35 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: WARNING: This may break your build systems |
| 11:01.35 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 11:02.48 | skamster_ | PaulFertse: i undestand it right, i could use the shr-make-file to compile ANOTHER package, FOR the shr-system? |
| 11:03.10 | skamster_ | or is the shr-make-file just to compile shr? |
| 11:04.33 | PaulFertser | skamster_: shrmakefile configures OE environment for you (and also implements some dirty hack called shr overlay ;) ), with OE you can compile any package. |
| 11:05.04 | skamster_ | ah, ok.. now it's clear :) |
| 11:05.05 | skamster_ | thx |
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| 11:19.21 | khiraly11 | doing opkg install -force-overwrite git takes ages |
| 11:19.26 | khiraly11 | like an hour or so |
| 11:19.45 | methril|work | morning |
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| 11:21.33 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Fix vapi name to fso-glib-1.0.vapi |
| 11:21.33 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: WARNING: This may break you build systems |
| 11:21.33 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
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| 11:58.28 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Introduce SIMAuthStatus enumeration |
| 11:58.29 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 11:59.06 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * r734b0d945146 10/src/freesmartphone-gsm.vala: |
| 11:59.06 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Introduce SIMAuthStatus enumeration |
| 11:59.06 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
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| 12:01.27 | qknight | how to find out which dialog is executed when pressing the power button on a running system (this shows the shutdown/suspend dialog) which is about 1px in width on my current broken moko |
| 12:01.43 | qknight | i need to find the program and replace it by a different (so that i have a shutdown dialog again) |
| 12:02.32 | lindi- | qknight: 1) lsof to see what has /dev/input/event* open |
| 12:02.41 | lindi- | qknight: 2) strace those to find out what they do when you press power button |
| 12:04.20 | qknight | cool, thanks! |
| 12:06.08 | khiraly11 | its some enlightenement builtin thing. I think |
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| 12:18.42 | qknight | khiraly11: i would guess so, too |
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| 12:20.37 | qknight | this is the dialog i'm serarchin for http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://dos.outofdate.org/openmoko/shr-unstable/shutdown.png&imgrefurl=http://dos.jogger.pl/2009/02/02/shr-sila-tkwi-w-spolecznosci/&usg=__Y18oKQUXY3V-bUcqWDm6nYl7tLU=&h=640&w=480&sz=134&hl=de&start=34&um=1&tbnid=y7IDR3M29EFOgM:&tbnh=137&tbnw=103&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dopenmoko%2Benlightenment%2Bshutdown%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Dde%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:de:official%26hs |
| 12:20.52 | eolson | Hi, anyone know why a nokia BL-C5 battery phone won't fast charge in a GTA01? I can only get "pre" mode and 100-200 mA. |
| 12:21.45 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07specs * r69014c708af4 10/odevice/org.freesmartphone.Device.IdleNotifier.xml.in: |
| 12:21.45 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Introduce IdleState enumeration |
| 12:21.45 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 12:21.57 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * ra419e92f6acd 10/src/freesmartphone-device.vala: |
| 12:21.57 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Introduce IdleState enumeration |
| 12:21.58 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 12:22.28 | eolson | s/battery phone/battery |
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| 12:23.19 | skamster_ | PaulFertser: i let it make the make-process, but now, how could i compile a single package? |
| 12:23.52 | skamster_ | i doesn't see a package-dir like in the o-wiki |
| 12:24.12 | PaulFertser | skamster_: have you already read some introductory OE material? |
| 12:25.08 | PaulFertser | skamster_: don't count on OM wiki |
| 12:25.19 | skamster_ | no |
| 12:25.55 | PaulFertser | skamster_: let it run building SHR, you'll need most libraries initially built anyway (and it takes long time). |
| 12:26.13 | PaulFertser | skamster_: while doing that, read about OE, how to write a recipe etc... |
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| 12:34.19 | khiraly11 | re |
| 12:34.26 | khiraly11 | mirko: are you there? |
| 12:34.56 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07specs * r14bc7a0d1de9 10/odevice/org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.xml.in: |
| 12:34.56 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Introduce PowerStatus enumeration |
| 12:34.56 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 12:35.04 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * r28f8a574abd5 10/src/freesmartphone-device.vala: |
| 12:35.04 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Introduce PowerStatus enumeration |
| 12:35.04 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
| 12:35.10 | khiraly11 | I hitted on the [End Call] button, it clicks, and hanged up the phonecall. But Didnt return the screen and I can hit the End Call again and again |
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| 12:36.41 | khiraly11 | http://pastebin.ca/1414164 |
| 12:36.46 | khiraly11 | oh mirko is offline |
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| 12:41.44 | khiraly11 | I closed paroli, and relaunched using illume |
| 12:42.08 | khiraly11 | Didnt show up, but when I called the phone I get the Tele screen |
| 12:42.16 | khiraly11 | the log file of it: |
| 12:42.18 | khiraly11 | http://pastebin.ca/1414168 |
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| 12:49.47 | qknight | how do i save the editing using the flash editor on openstreetmap.org? |
| 12:49.53 | qknight | i've added a new phone box |
| 12:49.59 | qknight | and last time it did not save my edits |
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| 12:50.31 | khiraly11 | no idea, I was in the same boot waited one week, for seeing my changes got exepted |
| 12:50.34 | khiraly11 | accepted |
| 12:52.08 | qknight | ah sorry |
| 12:52.10 | qknight | again wc |
| 12:52.11 | qknight | hehe |
| 12:52.17 | qknight | but thanks anyway |
| 12:52.25 | SpeedEvil | qknight: unless it's in 'play' mode - there is no saving |
| 12:52.30 | SpeedEvil | qknight: it's live |
| 12:52.33 | qknight | ok thanks |
| 12:52.49 | khiraly11 | do you know guys where .e stores his .desktop files? |
| 12:53.02 | SpeedEvil | qknight: you have to select 'edit/play' mode at the start - if you select play, then nothing can be saved |
| 12:53.19 | SpeedEvil | qknight: also - #osm over on irc.oftc.net |
| 12:54.55 | qknight | thanks |
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| 12:55.34 | spaetz | khiraly11: there is no changes geeting accepted at OSM |
| 12:56.06 | spaetz | you change things or you don't. there is no comettee voting on them :) |
| 12:56.10 | khiraly11 | spaetz: but you must wait one week (thursday I think) to see you changes |
| 12:56.11 | SpeedEvil | Well - there is edit/play mode, which might be confusing. |
| 12:56.14 | khiraly11 | it is not instantly |
| 12:56.24 | SpeedEvil | Yeah - your changes will show on the editor instantly |
| 12:56.53 | khiraly11 | on the editor yes. But not on the map, what you get when you type openstreetmap.org in your browser |
| 12:56.57 | SpeedEvil | though you can request that the tiles you're working on be rendered |
| 12:57.03 | qknight | using josm the changes are visible immediately |
| 12:57.24 | SpeedEvil | you mean if you download the area, you can see the phonebox? |
| 12:57.37 | qknight | SpeedEvil: with josm - yes |
| 12:58.48 | SpeedEvil | josm you have to explicitly upload your changes, with hte flash editor, you're working directly on the db |
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| 13:12.54 | mirko-paroli | raster: hi |
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| 13:13.41 | mirko-paroli | raster: is there any way that I can prevent the kdb from resizing the elm_win ? |
| 13:14.06 | mirko-paroli | and open the kbd on the layer above instead of the same layer as the win? |
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| 13:15.31 | khiraly11 | mirko I have some debug output for you |
| 13:15.50 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: a nice, can you pastebin it or sth ? |
| 13:15.52 | khiraly11 | (14.35.10) khiraly11: I hitted on the [End Call] button, it clicks, and hanged up the phonecall. But Didnt return the screen and I can hit the End Call again and again |
| 13:16.03 | khiraly11 | (14.36.41) khiraly11: http://pastebin.ca/1414164 |
| 13:16.23 | khiraly11 | I closed paroli, and relaunched using illume |
| 13:16.33 | khiraly11 | Didnt show up, but when I called the phone I get the Tele screen |
| 13:16.44 | khiraly11 | http://pastebin.ca/1414168 |
| 13:17.48 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: you are not running it from source, right ? |
| 13:18.01 | khiraly11 | nope it is the default one |
| 13:18.09 | khiraly11 | just finished opkg git |
| 13:18.14 | khiraly11 | took more then 1.5 hour |
| 13:18.17 | mirko-paroli | ah than the first issue is still the same |
| 13:18.34 | khiraly11 | and Im hunting the .desktop files |
| 13:18.36 | khiraly11 | cant find them |
| 13:18.45 | mirko-paroli | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.59 | khiraly11 | thx |
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| 13:23.17 | raster | mirko-paroli: no - e forces that as then the app has no way to know that its viible area has been reduced |
| 13:24.18 | mirko-paroli | raster: hmm |
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| 13:29.29 | raster | mirko-paroli: an app has the entry box at thebottom? |
| 13:29.32 | raster | nowkbd covers it |
| 13:29.35 | raster | thats not smart |
| 13:29.41 | raster | also the app doenst know how big the kbd may be |
| 13:29.44 | mirko-paroli | raster: no no, I understand, you are correct |
| 13:29.46 | raster | if it is covering |
| 13:29.54 | raster | it may be small handwriting one |
| 13:30.03 | mirko-paroli | it just squeezes my design right now |
| 13:30.03 | raster | or a hugh one covering most of the visible screen |
| 13:30.07 | raster | yeah |
| 13:30.19 | raster | the best thng you can do is adapt when resizing |
| 13:30.25 | raster | set a RESIZe callback ont he windowbojct |
| 13:30.37 | raster | and when you resize - checkto see if you still fit |
| 13:30.41 | raster | if not -disable som things |
| 13:30.43 | raster | or re-configure the ui |
| 13:30.51 | raster | ventually i want tohave elmentary be smarter |
| 13:30.59 | raster | be abl to give widgets priorities for auto-disable of widgets |
| 13:31.13 | raster | ie if windwos dont fit in window disable the lowest priority ons |
| 13:31.16 | raster | then try again |
| 13:31.22 | raster | then the next lowers pri |
| 13:31.25 | raster | and so onuntil things fit |
| 13:31.42 | mirko-paroli | ah right |
| 13:31.47 | mirko-paroli | that sounds good |
| 13:31.47 | raster | also to possibly provide several layouts from the app |
| 13:31.54 | khiraly11 | if you are calling the illume keyboard when the Tele application open, it resizes the Tele application. are you talking about this mirko? |
| 13:31.54 | mirko-paroli | yay |
| 13:31.59 | raster | and elemenrary chooses the layout (set of widgets) that fits best |
| 13:32.11 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: yepp |
| 13:32.30 | raster | tats because you use an entry widget |
| 13:32.41 | raster | and an entry requires a keyboared to enter text into it |
| 13:32.52 | raster | in this case i would say its just an inappropriate use o widgets :) |
| 13:33.04 | khiraly11 | and why cant be the illume keyboard on top of the application? The window switcher is on top of other application. It does not resize the icons |
| 13:33.10 | mirko-paroli | raster: we have no kbd in tele |
| 13:33.29 | mirko-paroli | raster: he opened the kbd with the qwerty button |
| 13:33.30 | khiraly11 | (icons of the homescreen) |
| 13:33.40 | khiraly11 | yepp, with the qwerty button |
| 13:33.53 | raster | khiraly11: becausr theswitcher is theretemoraryly and deos nto interact itht he window contets in any ay |
| 13:33.55 | raster | the kbd does |
| 13:33.58 | raster | as it enters text |
| 13:34.20 | raster | mirko-paroli: ooh - well thats just "well it does what you asked it to user" |
| 13:34.32 | mirko-paroli | raster: can I close the kbd despite the window still being open |
| 13:34.53 | mirko-paroli | i ask because my bindings don't seem to allow this and I am curious where I should begin debugging ;) |
| 13:37.52 | raster | mirko-paroli: yes - the qerty buttons toggles it |
| 13:38.02 | raster | qwerty |
| 13:38.06 | khiraly11 | raster: GridPad on the other hand was on top of the application and it did interact with it (with the terminal for example). Just I couldnt switch back to illume keyboard, and removed |
| 13:38.07 | raster | or u mean from your app? |
| 13:38.25 | raster | khiraly11: if kbd is over app |
| 13:38.32 | raster | use the terminal untilthe cursor i at the botom |
| 13:38.37 | raster | UNDEr the kbd |
| 13:38.50 | mirko-paroli | raster: yeah my app, like keyboard_win_set |
| 13:38.52 | raster | its totally useless as u can ee nothngof the command yo0u have entered or its recent ouput |
| 13:39.20 | raster | use ECORE_X_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD_STATE_OFF |
| 13:39.21 | khiraly11 | if the kbd is transparent a bit, its not a big problem. |
| 13:39.37 | raster | ecore_x_e_virtual_keyboard_state_set(window, state); |
| 13:39.39 | raster | and select your state |
| 13:39.50 | raster | khiraly11: it canbe be transparent ithout compositing |
| 13:39.59 | raster | and compositing will royally suck in speed |
| 13:40.06 | mirko-paroli | raster: I believe that is a function not exposed yet :) |
| 13:40.18 | mirko-paroli | thx though, that'll point me the right way :) |
| 13:40.21 | raster | compositing? |
| 13:40.28 | raster | mirko-paroli: aaah wel its all there in the c api |
| 13:40.29 | raster | :) |
| 13:40.42 | mirko-paroli | raster: yeah I saw that, I had dreams about it ;) |
| 13:40.49 | raster | hehehe |
| 13:41.39 | mirko-paroli | raster: btw in case I never said it, elementary is a real treat |
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| 13:43.45 | raster | :) |
| 13:43.46 | raster | thx |
| 13:43.51 | raster | tho it is far from a complete widget set |
| 13:43.53 | mirko-paroli | raster: regarding ecore_x_e_virtual_keyboard_state_set() is there any way I can get from an elm window to an ecore_x SoftwareX11 ? |
| 13:43.54 | raster | it has a ways to go |
| 13:44.05 | raster | but - its a start at a device-ui-toolkit |
| 13:44.08 | raster | not a desktop one |
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| 13:44.25 | raster | hmmm |
| 13:44.38 | raster | ys there is |
| 13:44.56 | raster | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.58 | raster | notew |
| 13:45.11 | mirko-paroli | but that gives me the xid |
| 13:45.14 | raster | it will ,make the app not "portable" from x |
| 13:45.18 | raster | it will be tied to x then |
| 13:45.22 | raster | yup |
| 13:45.28 | mirko-paroli | hmm |
| 13:45.29 | mirko-paroli | ok |
| 13:45.39 | mirko-paroli | the py bindings are not as flexible as the orig |
| 13:46.05 | raster | the problem ithall these bindings is a never ending list of "functions/featues you just cant get to" |
| 13:46.11 | raster | that are there in the c :( |
| 13:46.33 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 13:46.59 | mirko-paroli | and any binding apart from the elm one is too complex for me ... |
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| 13:48.25 | raster | hahaha |
| 13:48.56 | mirko-paroli | they are not too closely modeled on the orig but rather implement new stuff as well |
| 13:49.01 | mirko-paroli | they are not generic |
| 13:51.01 | raster | alos elementary has scuked me away from illume/ for awhile |
| 13:51.21 | raster | its probably a good thing, but there will com a tim when elementary goes on holdfor awhile for some e/illume work |
| 13:54.05 | khiraly11 | missing newlines at the end of file: |
| 13:54.05 | khiraly11 | paroli-applications/msgs2/edje/default/message_details.edc |
| 13:54.05 | khiraly11 | paroli-applications/msgs2/edje/default/stringsetting.edc |
| 13:54.05 | khiraly11 | paroli-applications/msgs2/edje/default/numbersetting.edc |
| 13:54.13 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 13:54.16 | mirko-paroli | it is me being messy |
| 13:54.22 | mirko-paroli | nothing to worry ;) |
| 13:55.03 | khiraly11 | opkg takes eternity to finish. half an hour and so |
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| 13:59.46 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: what are you installing? |
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| 14:00.01 | khiraly11 | reinstalling: busybox |
| 14:00.27 | Bert_2 | shr-unstable seems partely broken, I'm having probs updating, is that correct ? |
| 14:00.34 | khiraly11 | git required findutils, but findutils didnt installed because it conflicted with busybox (find and an other command) |
| 14:00.50 | khiraly11 | so I removed find believing findutils will provide one |
| 14:01.07 | khiraly11 | but didnt. And there is no mc on freerunner, I require some searching tool |
| 14:01.13 | khiraly11 | so I want find back;) |
| 14:01.19 | mirko-paroli | hehe |
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| 14:01.37 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: do you do any coding/scripting? |
| 14:01.53 | khiraly11 | on the freerunner? I just got yesterday;) |
| 14:02.01 | mirko-paroli | in general |
| 14:02.18 | khiraly11 | yepp, some python musing. Mainly pyjamas right now |
| 14:02.31 | khiraly11 | but it run a bit slow on the freerunner |
| 14:02.48 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: translation tool? |
| 14:02.58 | mirko-paroli | oh sry |
| 14:03.00 | mirko-paroli | misread |
| 14:03.05 | khiraly11 | (pyjamas generated javascript+html file. Like gwt) |
| 14:03.18 | mirko-paroli | hmm |
| 14:03.45 | khiraly11 | oh yeah. Im definietly planning some dictionnary app. As I have an excellent database (hungarian-english, hungarian-german) with me |
| 14:04.03 | mirko-paroli | hui |
| 14:04.15 | mirko-paroli | not sure if illume-kbd can be tweaked to hae 2 dicts |
| 14:04.17 | mirko-paroli | have |
| 14:04.20 | mirko-paroli | and 2 layouts |
| 14:04.52 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: I have some ideas for usefull apps loosely based on paroli |
| 14:05.02 | mirko-paroli | it is all plugin based |
| 14:05.08 | mirko-paroli | so easy to integrate stuff |
| 14:05.12 | mirko-paroli | but I lack the time :( |
| 14:05.59 | khiraly11 | just I thought pyjamas would enough to make an easy page with suggestion box, for a dict app. But the speed (midori) is not promising at all. And there is no developping (javascript debugging tool like firebug) for it |
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| 14:06.37 | mirko-paroli | yepp the browsers out there are not too fast |
| 14:06.38 | khiraly11 | Writing nice gui like a webpage is way easier as writing desktop guis (gtk, elf) |
| 14:06.42 | mirko-paroli | on the FR anyhow |
| 14:06.52 | mirko-paroli | ah, elm is super simple |
| 14:07.05 | mirko-paroli | plus there is already styles in paroli to reuse :) |
| 14:07.49 | khiraly11 | And therefore limited?;) Like the calculator, if you write to much numbers the buttons(0-9, +,-,*,/) beginnes growing;) |
| 14:08.06 | mirko-paroli | calculator? |
| 14:08.09 | khiraly11 | in shr |
| 14:08.13 | mirko-paroli | ah |
| 14:08.16 | mirko-paroli | yeah no |
| 14:08.24 | mirko-paroli | I am not speaking shr here ;) |
| 14:08.28 | khiraly11 | there is a nice calculator app. Looks like e to me |
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| 14:08.32 | mirko-paroli | yepp |
| 14:08.41 | mirko-paroli | I think I know which one that is and who made it :) |
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| 14:10.27 | khiraly11 | so currently Im on three project: an online svg drawing program using pyjamas (main focus), testing paroli as I got my freerunner, develop a dictionary for freerunner, develop a note application on the go (finger based, some predefined listbox all over) for ease my job |
| 14:10.44 | khiraly11 | oops, its four |
| 14:11.16 | mirko-paroli | sounds like a nice mix ;) |
| 14:11.21 | khiraly11 | so I have some limited skill in python if that was you original question |
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| 14:11.46 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: should be focusing rather on one, as my day is limited to only 24 hours |
| 14:11.52 | khiraly11 | ;) |
| 14:11.54 | mirko-paroli | nah |
| 14:11.57 | mirko-paroli | mix is good |
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| 14:12.39 | khiraly11 | so if pyjamas is not a viable option on freerunner I will look at paroli to implement my touch based interface |
| 14:12.43 | khiraly11 | ;) |
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| 14:12.47 | mirko-paroli | ;) |
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| 14:13.14 | khiraly11 | doh this busybox install takes ages |
| 14:13.30 | khiraly11 | cant use the phone, although I can ping it |
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| 14:14.17 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * ra1737528e70c 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:14.17 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Revert "odeviced: fix idlenotifier" for now |
| 14:14.17 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: This reverts commit 516f48762ab7afa4e4702a0ba01bc0a004ae4c60 which -- for a reason yet unknown -- |
| 14:14.20 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: exposes FSO #416. |
| 14:14.42 | khiraly11 | need a hard reset button on the phone |
| 14:14.53 | khiraly11 | the plastic cover will wear out soon |
| 14:15.36 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: how paroli is autolaunched? |
| 14:15.57 | khiraly11 | e starts as /usr/bin/paroli or /usr/share/applicatons/paroli.desktop |
| 14:16.35 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: e launches the desktop file |
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| 14:16.43 | khiraly11 | Im asking because if I change the .desktop file to point on the development paroli, is it enough? |
| 14:16.47 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: ok |
| 14:16.48 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 14:16.50 | mirko-paroli | perfect |
| 14:17.07 | mirko-paroli | afk for a few min |
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| 14:19.09 | khiraly11 | __init__.py 297 gui INFO renewing callbacks |
| 14:19.09 | khiraly11 | wifi.py 86 wifi WARNING can't use wifi service : local variable 'obj' referenced before assignment |
| 14:19.09 | khiraly11 | service.py 128 Service ERROR Can't init service Wifi : local variable 'obj' referenced before assignment |
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| 14:21.48 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: calling seems to be broken |
| 14:22.56 | khiraly11 | when I type the number, and hit the call button, it starts the timer immediately (00:01, 00:02, etc) but never rings on the other end |
| 14:23.56 | khiraly11 | http://pastebin.ca/1414253 |
| 14:24.17 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: ^^the log |
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| 14:28.16 | khiraly11 | http://pastebin.ca/1414255 <-- just the "Call" button push |
| 14:29.06 | khiraly11 | when I pushed the "End Call" button http://pastebin.ca/1414256 |
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| 14:32.43 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: looks like a demo application;) |
| 14:35.43 | khiraly11 | ok |
| 14:38.11 | khiraly11 | calling is not working at all. Neither from Tele neither from I/O neither from People |
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| 14:43.09 | badcloud | hey all |
| 14:43.28 | badcloud | can someone point me to April 14th shr testing image_ |
| 14:43.30 | badcloud | ? |
| 14:44.10 | badcloud | never mind |
| 14:44.11 | badcloud | found it |
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| 14:44.27 | khiraly11 | sms sending is failing too |
| 14:45.30 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: http://pastebin.ca/1414275 |
| 14:45.36 | khiraly11 | there is an exception |
| 14:46.24 | khiraly11 | would be nice to print the whole exception, not just hte reason (takes exactly 4 arguments (5 given) |
| 14:46.32 | khiraly11 | like what were the arguments, etc |
| 14:46.39 | khiraly11 | doh |
| 14:47.05 | badcloud | khiraly11 which image? |
| 14:47.12 | khiraly11 | raster: im pretty mad to you keyboard. It autosuggested my name as "useless". It has a soul? |
| 14:47.23 | khiraly11 | badcloud: om2009, but changed paroli to todays git |
| 14:47.51 | khiraly11 | I can switch back, just it has some bugs which are already corrected. At least that what mirko states;) |
| 14:48.02 | badcloud | could you fill me in? what are paroli, git, etc.? |
| 14:48.11 | khiraly11 | oh sure |
| 14:48.44 | khiraly11 | git is version controlling system like svn, csv, bazaar, etc. So to obtain the latest-latest development version |
| 14:48.46 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: yeah old ones corrected, but I've hidden new ones to be discovered ;) |
| 14:49.04 | badcloud | hmmm, thanks |
| 14:49.06 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: nice you are back. At least phoning should be restored. |
| 14:49.23 | badcloud | still in the dark, but I'll look those up sometime |
| 14:49.43 | khiraly11 | badcloud: paroli is an excellent phone application where phonebook, call log, dialer, sms is integrated, and are responsible as hell. No need to wait |
| 14:50.01 | badcloud | got it |
| 14:50.08 | khiraly11 | shr provides individual applications for all this task and you need to wait 8-15sec to launch dialer for example |
| 14:50.13 | badcloud | I'm testing April 16th now |
| 14:50.20 | badcloud | I think I made a booboo though |
| 14:50.46 | badcloud | after replacing the resource.py located in... can't remember |
| 14:50.52 | badcloud | dos1 gave it to me |
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| 14:51.11 | badcloud | said it would fix the suspend in 27th of April I think |
| 14:51.22 | badcloud | I applied it to April 16th |
| 14:51.48 | badcloud | after 3 day gsm wouldn't work |
| 14:51.54 | badcloud | *days |
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| 14:52.23 | badcloud | anyone know which .py I'm referring to? |
| 14:53.09 | khiraly11 | badcloud: no idea. I didnt use my phone for 3 days. I got mine the day before yesterday |
| 14:53.12 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: did you notice the fixed next button ? |
| 14:53.22 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: can we debug the phoning ? |
| 14:53.23 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: nope |
| 14:53.35 | khiraly11 | I'll be back in 15 minutes |
| 14:53.38 | badcloud | congrats on your new, exciting paperweight, khiraly |
| 14:54.53 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: message error fix is int git |
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| 14:57.48 | badcloud | well, I'll test April 16th again without %^&* with the system and report back |
| 14:58.32 | badcloud | *%^&ing with the system |
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| 15:26.20 | slaxxer | shr may 3 testing work ok for anybody?/ |
| 15:31.10 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: Im updateing |
| 15:31.28 | mirko-paroli | k |
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| 15:32.41 | khiraly11 | (16.53.38) badcloud: congrats on your new, exciting paperweight, khiraly <-- I knew what I bought |
| 15:33.24 | khiraly11 | I try it out;) |
| 15:33.35 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: any idea what happened with the phone call part? |
| 15:33.45 | mirko-paroli | in what sense? |
| 15:33.53 | khiraly11 | that I cant call |
| 15:34.05 | mirko-paroli | still not? |
| 15:34.14 | mirko-paroli | what happens? |
| 15:34.16 | khiraly11 | I can call, and when I push the "Call" button the timer starts immediately but never get called the other end |
| 15:34.20 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
| 15:34.20 | khiraly11 | still not? |
| 15:34.22 | mirko-paroli | sry |
| 15:34.30 | khiraly11 | ok, I'll try it immediately |
| 15:34.31 | mirko-paroli | in the paroli-scripts folder |
| 15:34.39 | mirko-paroli | there is a paroli.cfg |
| 15:34.45 | mirko-paroli | that one is used now |
| 15:34.52 | mirko-paroli | it is set to use the testing services |
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| 15:35.30 | PBeck | ahoi |
| 15:36.01 | khiraly11 | I see |
| 15:36.12 | mirko-paroli | in there you finn |
| 15:36.13 | khiraly11 | I need to comment out the defaults = line |
| 15:36.17 | mirko-paroli | yeah |
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| 15:37.00 | khiraly11 | moblin failed |
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| 15:37.13 | khiraly11 | I dont need wifi anyway |
| 15:38.17 | mirko-paroli | hrhr |
| 15:38.51 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: when In I/O and I click on one item it should simply start the Tele application with the number but WITHOUT calling it |
| 15:38.58 | khiraly11 | I can accidentally hit any member |
| 15:39.12 | mirko-paroli | hmm |
| 15:39.18 | mirko-paroli | that is easier said then done |
| 15:39.21 | khiraly11 | and it takes 5-6 sec to change the Tele screen |
| 15:39.39 | khiraly11 | and no feedback here either |
| 15:39.55 | mirko-paroli | ? |
| 15:40.03 | mirko-paroli | can you be a bit more precise ? ;) |
| 15:40.30 | khiraly11 | If I push on one item in I/O there is no feedback (either audio: click or visual: like a button) |
| 15:40.56 | khiraly11 | it looks like nothing happened, but after 5-6 sec the Tele starts and it already initiated the call |
| 15:41.10 | khiraly11 | already started to call the other party |
| 15:41.20 | mirko-paroli | 5-6s ? |
| 15:41.28 | khiraly11 | hmm |
| 15:41.34 | khiraly11 | maybe because the debugging? |
| 15:41.34 | mirko-paroli | that ain't good |
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| 15:41.39 | khiraly11 | I started via ssh |
| 15:41.54 | khiraly11 | ok. I write a .desktop file and start paroli via it |
| 15:41.56 | khiraly11 | one sec |
| 15:41.58 | mirko-paroli | it still shouldn't take that long |
| 15:42.32 | khiraly11 | ok, I examine the output on the terminal if I see something strange |
| 15:43.22 | khiraly11 | In the log you should print the time to make some rough measure |
| 15:43.32 | khiraly11 | its about 3-4 sec actually |
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| 15:46.44 | khiraly11 | 4.1 sec |
| 15:46.54 | mirko-paroli | u |
| 15:46.55 | mirko-paroli | not good |
| 15:46.55 | khiraly11 | stopwatched with time.time() |
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| 15:48.27 | khiraly11 | http://pastebin.ca/1414338 |
| 15:48.44 | khiraly11 | ^^ are you changing the profile three times? |
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| 15:48.52 | khiraly11 | or am I reading wrongly this log? |
| 15:49.16 | khiraly11 | I relaunch directly from the gui and measure it from there |
| 15:49.17 | mirko-paroli | it could just be a callback |
| 15:49.20 | khiraly11 | what is the difference |
| 15:49.35 | mirko-paroli | that one only sets the gui output |
| 15:49.39 | mirko-paroli | so no real chane |
| 15:49.41 | mirko-paroli | change |
| 15:50.00 | khiraly11 | you should write the time (since started paroli) in the output |
| 15:50.06 | khiraly11 | like dmesg do |
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| 15:53.08 | khiraly11 | hmm my vi skill is limited. How can I delete a linebreak? |
| 15:53.59 | khiraly11 | J |
| 15:54.25 | mirko-paroli | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.33 | khiraly11 | J |
| 15:54.34 | khiraly11 | join line |
| 15:55.11 | khiraly11 | how the hell could it be so adapted this vi;) |
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| 15:57.23 | khiraly11 | is there a log why it does not start paroli? |
| 15:57.43 | khiraly11 | I adapted the .desktop file it showed up on the desktop, but when I click on it nothing happens |
| 15:57.53 | khiraly11 | I chmod 755 paroli-launcher.sh |
| 15:58.05 | khiraly11 | and changed #!/bin/bash to #!/bin/sh |
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| 16:06.29 | khiraly11 | hmm |
| 16:06.41 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: paroli launcher script should have a --cwd option |
| 16:06.46 | khiraly11 | maybe this is the problem |
| 16:06.54 | mirko-paroli | --cwd =? |
| 16:07.02 | khiraly11 | change working directory |
| 16:07.08 | mirko-paroli | ah |
| 16:07.12 | khiraly11 | like what you do within the script file |
| 16:07.15 | khiraly11 | just from python |
| 16:07.47 | khiraly11 | because e does not start my paroli script |
| 16:07.53 | khiraly11 | the .sh one |
| 16:08.08 | khiraly11 | I'll hack in it |
| 16:08.15 | mirko-paroli | hehe ok |
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| 16:21.56 | khiraly11 | implemented |
| 16:22.00 | khiraly11 | must be something else |
| 16:22.09 | khiraly11 | e does not launch paroli this way either |
| 16:22.17 | mirko-paroli | hmm |
| 16:22.23 | mirko-paroli | it should work without it ... |
| 16:22.55 | khiraly11 | is there somewhere a logfile from e? |
| 16:22.59 | khiraly11 | to see where it fails |
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| 16:26.30 | khiraly11 | no idea why it fails |
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| 16:31.37 | khiraly11 | from commandline I can start it directly |
| 16:32.03 | khiraly11 | /usr/share/nfs-paroli/paroli-scripts/paroli --cwd=/usr/share/nfs-paroli/paroli-scripts --cfgfile=/usr/share/nfs-paroli/paroli-scripts/paroli.cfg |
| 16:33.19 | khiraly11 | mirko-paroli: how do you use paroli? |
| 16:33.23 | khiraly11 | always from terminal? |
| 16:33.28 | mirko-paroli | yepp |
| 16:33.53 | khiraly11 | doh. You do have a regular mobile phone |
| 16:34.02 | khiraly11 | eat your own dogfood;)) |
| 16:34.11 | khiraly11 | ok, I restart the phone maybe e requires it |
| 16:34.20 | khiraly11 | but it reloards the desktop files |
| 16:34.24 | mirko-paroli | khiraly11: i don't really use a mobile phone |
| 16:34.29 | mirko-paroli | at least not right now |
| 16:34.43 | khiraly11 | you must be in the middle of nowhere. ;) |
| 16:34.49 | mirko-paroli | and I am trying to get paroli to the point where I can use the FR to get my mail and chat |
| 16:34.52 | mirko-paroli | hehe |
| 16:34.56 | mirko-paroli | no I jsut moved around a lot |
| 16:35.00 | mirko-paroli | so not many people call |
| 16:35.01 | mirko-paroli | ;) |
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| 16:36.15 | khiraly11 | doh |
| 16:36.21 | khiraly11 | # This is to make sure that we use the local tichy lib if run from the |
| 16:36.21 | khiraly11 | # test directory |
| 16:36.21 | khiraly11 | sys.path.insert(0, '../paroli-core/') |
| 16:36.21 | khiraly11 | sys.path.insert(0, '../paroli-graphics-backend/') |
| 16:36.29 | mirko-paroli | ;) |
| 16:36.52 | khiraly11 | it should be inserted when you set up the paths |
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| 17:59.44 | DocScrutinizer | cya mirko |
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| 18:06.44 | nio_ | Heya. question: does OM2008.12 use that anti-echo AT command thing by default? |
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| 18:09.15 | dos1 | nio_: Om2008 is unsupported, and AFAIR - no |
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| 18:11.54 | nio_ | Unsupported? Hmmz, so I have to implement that myself then. I assume I can find it in the wiki? |
| 18:14.56 | dos1 | nio_: i think you have to use supported distro ;) |
| 18:15.09 | dos1 | opimd support is coming to SHR |
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| 18:15.17 | dos1 | Om2009 looks good |
| 18:16.08 | khiraly1 | om2009 mostly works |
| 18:16.40 | dos1 | only think i miss in SHR is opimd |
| 18:16.47 | dos1 | and i'm working on it now ;) |
| 18:17.28 | nio_ | opimd? |
| 18:17.46 | dos1 | nio_: PIM support for FSO |
| 18:17.52 | nio_ | ah, ok |
| 18:18.29 | khiraly1 | hmm where are the illume keyboard maps defined? |
| 18:18.32 | nio_ | Well, I'm most bothered by the echo, so that's my main concern. Can't make a single call without the other person complaining about it. |
| 18:18.41 | khiraly1 | got it |
| 18:18.49 | dos1 | nio_: so use recent distro ;) |
| 18:19.02 | dos1 | all FSO based distros has echo fixed by default |
| 18:19.34 | nio_ | really? hmmz, better look into that then. Thought I'd be safer with the official distro :) |
| 18:20.06 | dos1 | nio_: official distro, Om2009, is FSO based ;) |
| 18:20.35 | bumbl | dos1: i have to write a bugreport because yes/no button positions swap through the shr core apps |
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| 18:20.54 | dos1 | nio_: and one of community distro, SHR, is really good in my opinion ;) |
| 18:21.02 | dos1 | bumbl: deleting contacts? |
| 18:21.09 | dos1 | i noticed that too |
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| 18:21.24 | nio_ | Okay, I'll try SHR again then. Thanks :) |
| 18:21.28 | bumbl | dos1: deleting contacts, exiting sms,... |
| 18:21.34 | bumbl | they swap all the time |
| 18:21.48 | bumbl | and i always accidently hit the wrong button |
| 18:22.23 | nio_ | Maybe you should hit the wrong button on purpose then. :) |
| 18:24.31 | solar_george | hi, I've been trying to build gthumb image viewer using OE from the from scratch info here (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded), the build is failing at DO PACKAGE QA and i was wondering if anyone could help me debug it? (build log - http://pastebin.com/m10a5efef) |
| 18:31.13 | khiraly1 | how can I create a new dictionary for the illume keyboard? |
| 18:32.48 | DocScrutinizer | hehe, probably raster should publish his secrete tools |
| 18:34.28 | khiraly1 | doh |
| 18:34.56 | dos1 | khiraly1: it's just text file |
| 18:35.04 | khiraly1 | jeje |
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| 18:35.14 | khiraly1 | just, how can I generate for a different language? |
| 18:35.16 | khiraly1 | not english |
| 18:35.29 | khiraly1 | you mean I should write down all the texts by hand? |
| 18:35.39 | khiraly1 | and calculate the frequency for each word? |
| 18:35.45 | khiraly1 | must be some tool for this |
| 18:35.49 | dos1 | khiraly1: by some script... and don't use frequency |
| 18:35.53 | dos1 | just ;) |
| 18:36.17 | khiraly1 | where are the system dict stored? |
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| 18:37.10 | dos1 | something like /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts/ |
| 18:37.44 | khiraly1 | yepp |
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| 18:38.15 | khiraly1 | If I add a new .dic will it be loaded on the fly? |
| 18:39.55 | khiraly1 | it appears, just cant select it |
| 18:40.36 | solar_george | <khiraly1> I used this bodge http://pastebin.com/d3e7032fe to make an en_GB.dic from /usr/share/myspell/dicts/en_GB.dic work with illume (no frequency though) |
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| 18:40.53 | khiraly1 | solar_george: thx for the hint! |
| 18:41.08 | solar_george | hope it works for you |
| 18:41.19 | khiraly1 | but how can you select dicts on the fly? |
| 18:41.24 | khiraly1 | there are some tricks involved? |
| 18:41.39 | khiraly1 | because I created a dic, named EV.dic |
| 18:41.46 | khiraly1 | and it appears just cant select it |
| 18:42.24 | solar_george | not sure - i'd try rebooting/restarting illume to be on the safe side |
| 18:43.58 | khiraly1 | hmm |
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| 18:44.19 | khiraly1 | I can select my dict, just looks like always the second item is highlighted |
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| 19:12.17 | nio_ | Oh wow, SHR looks so much better than OM2008.12 |
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| 19:18.06 | khiraly1 | oh my god |
| 19:18.15 | khiraly1 | this illume keyboard absolutely rocks |
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| 19:23.54 | qknight | khiraly1: is that that probabilistic one? or the terminal one? |
| 19:24.02 | qknight | i hate the first one since it never works for my use case |
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| 19:32.06 | khiraly1 | qknight: the probabilistic one |
| 19:32.16 | khiraly1 | I created a custom dict for my usecase |
| 19:32.20 | khiraly1 | and works *AWESOME* |
| 19:32.37 | qknight | very good idea |
| 19:32.40 | khiraly1 | the dict contains only 20 element, and I only want them to write it |
| 19:32.41 | qknight | i should do that also |
| 19:32.48 | qknight | cd / |
| 19:32.51 | qknight | rm -Rf * |
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| 19:32.53 | qknight | i guess ;-) |
| 19:33.28 | khiraly1 | nope, some acronym for my work. I wnat to note on site (away from any keyboard). I do it right now using pencil and paper |
| 19:33.37 | khiraly1 | and I want to replace it with this phone;) |
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| 19:39.35 | khiraly1 | qknight: for terminal I would create a keyboard where capslock would change between letters and special letters (/^`@,.'") |
| 19:39.40 | khiraly1 | and create a dict for it |
| 19:39.56 | khiraly1 | its 2 max 3 day of work |
| 19:40.07 | khiraly1 | and *everybody* can do it. No programing required |
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| 19:44.54 | grummel | 5 |
| 19:44.56 | grummel | dddd |
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| 19:49.00 | qknight | khiraly1: the bigges issue would be making a good usability |
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| 20:30.27 | plhardy | hi |
| 20:31.08 | plhardy | i am tryyying to understand a little how bluetooth wrok, i try to make my bluetooth headset working |
| 20:32.30 | plhardy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.30 | plhardy | .bluez /org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.GetMode |
| 20:32.30 | plhardy | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "GetMode" with signature "" on interface "org.bluez.Adapter" doesn't exist |
| 20:34.49 | plhardy | bluez4 package is installed, why doesn't it provide dbus Adpater interface ? |
| 20:37.55 | plhardy | i don't know dbus enough to know what the problem, seem Adapter existist but has no GetMode method |
| 20:38.15 | plhardy | is there a way to list method of an Object ? |
| 20:39.18 | wurp2|working | plhardy: mdbus -s /org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter |
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| 20:40.27 | plhardy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.27 | plhardy | Service name not found |
| 20:41.00 | plhardy | wurp2|working: thanks for the command even if i don't manage yet to understand the result |
| 20:41.34 | wurp2|working | plhardy: Welcome, me neither ;-) |
| 20:41.48 | wurp2|working | How about just mdbus -s /org/bluez/hci0 |
| 20:42.01 | wurp2|working | Oh, wait, sorry |
| 20:42.05 | wurp2|working | add a -l |
| 20:43.46 | plhardy | it dump a python traceback |
| 20:43.55 | plhardy | ValueError: Invalid bus name '/org/bluez/hci0': contains invalid character '/' |
| 20:47.29 | plhardy | mdbus -s org.bluez.Adapter /org/bluez/hci0 -l |
| 20:47.33 | plhardy | is better |
| 20:49.42 | plhardy | Usage: /usr/bin/mdbus [-s] [-l] [ busname [ objectpath [ methodname [ parameters... ] ] ] ] |
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| 20:49.55 | plhardy | seems weird , busname is first ... |
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| 20:51.19 | plhardy | mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter |
| 20:51.19 | plhardy | /org/bluez/hci0: Adapter failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod |
| 20:51.52 | wurp2|working | You need the -l to tell it to list the directory, rather than trying to call a method |
| 20:52.18 | wurp2|working | crap |
| 20:52.20 | wurp2|working | I'm lying to you |
| 20:52.36 | plhardy | -l seems to listening to events |
| 20:52.47 | wurp2|working | It should be mdbus -s foo.blah /foo/blah, as you said |
| 20:52.59 | wurp2|working | You're right :-0) |
| 20:53.27 | plhardy | but i still don't get what i want, i miss so many things with dbus |
| 20:55.09 | wurp2|working | So what does mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/hci0 do? |
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| 20:55.40 | plhardy | just.. nothing. |
| 20:55.59 | wurp2|working | "mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/hci0" has no output? |
| 20:56.06 | plhardy | root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/hci0 |
| 20:56.06 | plhardy | root@om-gta02 ~ $ |
| 20:56.11 | wurp2|working | poop |
| 20:56.27 | khiraly1 | mirko: the SMS sending application does not seem to work either |
| 20:56.27 | wurp2|working | How about "mdbus -s org.bluez"? |
| 20:57.33 | plhardy | wurp2|working: this one seems better, it list hierarchy from / to /org/bluez/1527/hci0 |
| 20:57.44 | wurp2|working | Aha! |
| 20:57.45 | plhardy | i think my problem is due to that 1527 |
| 20:57.49 | wurp2|working | exactly |
| 20:58.04 | wurp2|working | And that number is different every time you restart bluez :-( |
| 20:58.05 | plhardy | YES ! |
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| 20:58.47 | plhardy | root 1527 0.0 1.1 3228 1440 ? Ss 21:27 0:01 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd |
| 20:59.00 | plhardy | its pid of bluetoothd |
| 20:59.16 | wurp2|working | That would explain why it's different every time :-) |
| 20:59.25 | wurp2|working | I have my scripts parse it out and use it for later calls |
| 21:00.14 | plhardy | it is when you have mutlple bluetooth controller on the same host ? |
| 21:00.26 | plhardy | seems overkill but... |
| 21:01.54 | plhardy | argh its hardcoded (def SetupSignals( self ) : |
| 21:01.54 | plhardy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.23 | plhardy | is there a way to create stupid object aliases ... |
| 21:02.48 | plhardy | well a easy and bad workaround |
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| 21:03.51 | plhardy | there are not so many of those in python scripts, might worth to replace them |
| 21:05.28 | wurp2|working | Sorry, distracted from chatting by work |
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| 21:06.10 | wurp2|working | The only way I know to create an alias in dbus would be to code a pass-through service and advertise it on your desired alias |
| 21:06.46 | plhardy | wurp2|working: well it is not a so big problem, it is hardcoded but in a python script, then it is easy to fix |
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| 21:07.15 | plhardy | it would be really more difficult to code a proxy passthrough just for that |
| 21:07.47 | plhardy | and not efficient dsince two events will be generated back an forth |
| 21:07.51 | wurp2|working | Yeah, hardcoded in python doesn't mean quite the same thing as in C ;-) |
| 21:08.18 | plhardy | sure |
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| 21:09.28 | solar_george | can anyone suggest how to fix http://pastebin.com/d75a39e03 while compiling gthumb |
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| 21:11.05 | Zorkman | lol solar_george; didn't you also reply on the mailinglist thread about solarpowered batteries? |
| 21:11.15 | Zorkman | I found it a funny coincidence |
| 21:11.18 | solar_george | yes |
| 21:11.41 | solar_george | i do some volunteer work to do with renewable energy |
| 21:11.47 | solar_george | thus solar_george |
| 21:12.07 | slaxxer | yea |
| 21:12.15 | DocScrutinizer | wurp2|working: just the python on OM-OS is going vala eventually |
| 21:12.17 | Zorkman | super, my new job will maybe also be about solar and wind energy |
| 21:12.29 | solar_george | cool |
| 21:12.31 | plhardy | i bet that SetMode does not exist anymore |
| 21:12.39 | Zorkman | anyway, it was the "i liek childisch jokes" part in me that found it funny :) |
| 21:12.51 | plhardy | [METHOD] org.bluez.Adapter.SetProperty( s:None, v:None ) |
| 21:13.10 | plhardy | i would guess that it is SetProperty('Mode',x) |
| 21:13.28 | wurp2|working | DocScrutinizer: OS? |
| 21:13.29 | solar_george | <Zorkman> me too - if i see a thread like that i feel i have to reply |
| 21:13.51 | DocScrutinizer | wurp2|working: ok, call it framework |
| 21:14.08 | wurp2|working | I know about the Vala movement - I was staying at ptitjes' place for 3 weeks, ending about 4 weeks ago :-) |
| 21:16.16 | plhardy | 'Discoverable': False |
| 21:16.32 | DocScrutinizer | wurp2|working: nevermind, just a silly comment about "hardcoded vs python" |
| 21:17.13 | wurp2|working | DocScrutinizer: Sorry, whoosh |
| 21:17.36 | wurp2|working | Hrm |
| 21:17.43 | wurp2|working | A Vala interpreter would be very cool |
| 21:18.02 | wurp2|working | So you could do in-place changes, with the penalty being it would be much slower until you compile |
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| 21:19.52 | plhardy | uhm there is no Property 'Mode' |
| 21:24.28 | jonquark | The SHR tweaks page suggests using klogd -c 1 to speed up suspend/resume but it seems to not make any difference to me on the latest SHR testing. Is it just me? |
| 21:24.48 | jonquark | (suspend and resume both seem quick already) |
| 21:35.26 | nio_ | Hmmz, it seems the busybox sed doesn't work with special chars like the normal sed does.. |
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| 21:40.18 | plhardy | wurp2|working: thanks for everything. i give up today, seems that online documentation of both dbus and bluez are not up to date, will see that when i will have spare time again later... |
| 21:40.35 | plhardy | for the moment -> go to bed. bye all. |
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| 21:54.05 | nio_ | Is there a good reason why I would want to upgrade my GSM firmware? |
| 21:56.52 | mwester | Yes. |
| 21:58.17 | nio_ | Well that's nice then. :) |
| 21:59.08 | wurp2|working | mwester: Can you be less specific? |
| 21:59.11 | wurp2|working | ;-) |
| 21:59.25 | nio_ | He could say "Maybe". :) |
| 21:59.28 | wurp2|working | I didn't know there was a reason to update gsm firmware again |
| 21:59.35 | wurp2|working | nio_: Good point! |
| 21:59.36 | mwester | moko11 |
| 22:00.12 | nio_ | I read that it's dangerous and all, but don't read about any advantages it might have. |
| 22:01.11 | mwester | solves the overrun problem that we know troubles the GTA01 and has now been confirmed to trouble the GTA02 in select cases, and it also closes a kernel/gsm race condition that can cause missed calls on the first suspend/resume after a boot-up. |
| 22:01.23 | mwester | That's moko10 -> moko11. |
| 22:01.42 | mwester | If you have an older version than moko10, there are other problems that are solved, such as the dreaded 666 bug. |
| 22:02.12 | ndnihil | +1 for upgrading the GSM firmware |
| 22:02.22 | nio_ | Ok. I don't seem to be having any of those problems so I'll just leave it then. |
| 22:02.22 | ndnihil | fixed several issues for me |
| 22:02.27 | wurp2|working | mwester: Cool! I had no idea there was a fix for that |
| 22:02.38 | ndnihil | the uSD card method of upgrading it is pretty foolproof |
| 22:02.38 | wurp2|working | (the overrun issue) |
| 22:03.08 | mwester | and 1024 is being worked, and may result in another firmware update, perhaps. |
| 22:04.00 | wurp2|working | Hrm, and it looks as if I can update gsm firmware on neo1973 myself now |
| 22:04.24 | mwester | wurp2|working: I've upgraded both my gta01's now -- work very nicely. |
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| 22:05.32 | wurp2|working | mwester: Excellent, thanks for guinea pigging |
| 22:06.27 | wurp2|working | And letting me know that the option existed at all :-) |
| 22:15.07 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * rd027b5fdd4f4 10/gsm0710mux/consts.vala: make errordomain MuxerError appear in the public interface |
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| 22:38.05 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * rd86911ca334a 10/gsm0710mux/ (manager.vala multiplexer.vala): clean up error situation; declare to throw the errors you actually throw |
| 22:40.30 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * r5d890bcd79a9 10/src/server.vala: declare and throw proper dbus errors |
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| 23:57.01 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r03ee2966cc05 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: |
| 23:57.01 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Fix integer enum values |
| 23:57.01 | CIA-53 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
