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| 02:56.48 | inputio | i'm trying to flash a freerunner phone with FSO Milestone 5.5 Preview Image. have the following: sudo dfu-util -a 0 -R -D fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 |
| 02:56.50 | inputio | is that right? |
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| 03:51.19 | linuxxr | no |
| 03:51.47 | linuxxr | dfu-util -R -D fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 |
| 03:52.04 | linuxxr | ./dfu-util -R -D fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 |
| 03:52.10 | linuxxr | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:52.55 | linuxxr | nope |
| 03:53.06 | linuxxr | thats not it either |
| 03:53.25 | ndnihil | you need to specify the part of flash to write to |
| 03:53.32 | linuxxr | dfu-util -R -D fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 |
| 03:53.44 | linuxxr | dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D |
| 03:53.49 | linuxxr | yea |
| 03:54.03 | linuxxr | oo |
| 03:54.43 | linuxxr | dfu-util -a kernel -R -D |
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| 04:16.51 | inputio | i got it |
| 04:17.00 | inputio | now i'm trying to figure out how to get the wifi towork |
| 04:17.56 | inputio | i have a terminal open and iwconfig reports no no wireless extensions on any of the three things listed, lo, usb0, and pan0 |
| 04:18.15 | inputio | i don't have a sim card installed though either |
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| 04:38.21 | PaulFertser | inputio: wifi interface is eth0 |
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| 04:39.36 | inputio | PaulFertser- so it seems to be missing or something? |
| 04:40.14 | PaulFertser | inputio: wifi needs to be turned on. On raw FSO it's done via a dbus call to FSO (can be done with cli utility ``mdbus'' or with cli-framework), on SHR there's a knob in SHR Settings. |
| 04:41.38 | PaulFertser | inputio: if you go via mdbus route, just "mdbus -s", then "mdbus -s odeviced.freesmartphone.org" etc. Use ``1'' to mean a boolean true to enable power of wifi. |
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| 04:42.44 | PaulFertser | inputio: there's a decent api doc at freesmartphone.org. And if you're an end-user, you should have installed SHR or latest OM2009, both based on FSO. |
| 04:43.30 | inputio | yea- maybe that is what i should do |
| 04:43.31 | PaulFertser | (though i'm not sure OM2009 has a gui to toggle wifi power) |
| 04:43.59 | mirko-paroli | PaulFertser: we do actually |
| 04:44.08 | inputio | someone suggested the FSO milestone 5.5. |
| 04:44.12 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: Nice :) |
| 04:44.13 | mirko-paroli | not quite complete yet, but that is the main goal for today |
| 04:44.31 | mirko-paroli | btw do you know what to use for the whole bt shabang? |
| 04:45.12 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: sounds like a nice thing to do at weekend :) (bt shabang) what's that? Something bluetooth-related? |
| 04:45.42 | mirko-paroli | well build call forwarding and delivery-report yesterday, so wifi comes naturally ;) |
| 04:46.13 | mirko-paroli | PaulFertser: yeah, which program/lib/dbus-thingy to use to scan, pair etc |
| 04:46.42 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: yes, i know some :) |
| 04:47.04 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: to pair there exist a simple python program ``simple-agent''. |
| 04:47.05 | mirko-paroli | oh, btw PaulFertser did you read that there is a switch in paroli now, which allows to toggle between fullscreen and non-fullscreen ? |
| 04:47.23 | mirko-paroli | PaulFertser: wrt bt: to use on the FR? |
| 04:48.07 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: yeah, yeah, read about it. Congratulations :) (and sorry for not showing appreciating in time ;) ) |
| 04:48.52 | mirko-paroli | PaulFertser: thx, no worries, just wanted you to know, that I do in fact listen and do try to make things usable and usefull :) |
| 04:49.00 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: yeah, simple-agent can be used from cli only but you can easily integrate bluez4 support if you use that agent as a reference. |
| 04:49.15 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: there're a (semi-)working instructions on using a BT headset here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Once_Again.2C_Bluetooth_Headset_on_Freerunner |
| 04:49.35 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: i've no doubt in that for months :) |
| 04:49.51 | mirko-paroli | PaulFertser: ah nice, thx for the pagee |
| 04:49.52 | mirko-paroli | hehe |
| 04:50.05 | mirko-paroli | well, it seems I had a hard time convincing some people ;) |
| 04:50.19 | mirko-paroli | how are you anyways, shouldn |
| 04:50.25 | mirko-paroli | 't it be the middle of the night there |
| 04:50.29 | mirko-paroli | like 4:49 or sth? |
| 04:50.37 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: no, GMT+3, 8:50. |
| 04:50.51 | mirko-paroli | oh, that's not moscow |
| 04:51.00 | mirko-paroli | or is it? |
| 04:51.05 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: It is :) |
| 04:51.10 | mirko-paroli | oh |
| 04:51.11 | mirko-paroli | hmm |
| 04:51.13 | mirko-paroli | ok |
| 04:51.21 | mirko-paroli | hehe |
| 04:51.32 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: yeah, actually it's UTC+4 now, DST already. |
| 04:52.20 | mirko-paroli | oh |
| 04:52.25 | mirko-paroli | i see i have to update my map ;) |
| 04:52.38 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: beware, it seems that there's no decent api docs for bluez4, so i can't give you an immediate reference how to e.g. perform a scan; some examples in bluez4 distribution don't work at all. |
| 04:52.53 | mirko-paroli | oh |
| 04:53.04 | mirko-paroli | well then I'll have to try and try and try I guess |
| 04:53.13 | mirko-paroli | at least it won't cost as much as SMSing all the time ;) |
| 04:53.31 | mirko-paroli | spend some 10 euros last night getting deliver report working ;) |
| 04:54.55 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: but simple-agent works flawlessly :) And for some (yet unknown to me reason) the instructions i mentioned don't fully work, somehow framework doesn't see a headset (it is supposed to check every 10 seconds if it appeared and bluetoothd (bluez4 daemon) should notify it). I've read through the code several times but couldn't understand why it fails to actually use the headset. Never tried to debug it because i lack a headset and end-user |
| 04:55.01 | PaulFertser | ... who do (hey, Digital_Pioneer) lack the skills. |
| 04:55.38 | mirko-paroli | hehe |
| 04:56.07 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: oh, 10EUR seems like an overkill. Nice it finally works anyway :) Do you have a free number to call (like operator balance information)? |
| 04:56.27 | mirko-paroli | well i don't have a local sim card |
| 04:56.32 | mirko-paroli | so it was all roaming :( |
| 04:56.56 | mirko-paroli | it's the price I had to pay for being stupid and working badly |
| 04:57.16 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: unfortunately i gtg now else i would help you to deduce bluez4 from the source ;) Anyway, some examples in the source work, you need to give them a try. |
| 04:57.25 | PaulFertser | would try to help |
| 04:57.31 | mirko-paroli | k, thx a lot for the pointer :) |
| 04:57.41 | mirko-paroli | and have fun whatever you are up to :) |
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| 04:59.54 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: yeah, meeting with old friends from applied maths and IT department outdoors :) |
| 05:00.13 | Digital_Pioneer | PaulFertser: What's up? |
| 05:00.28 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: read the scrollback :) |
| 05:01.42 | mirko-paroli | PaulFertser: old friends and outdoors sounds good, nice thing to do on a sunday :) |
| 05:02.28 | PaulFertser | mirko-paroli: unfortunately, they're going to do some bbq, but they have prepared enough vegetables to make me happy too :) |
| 05:02.36 | mirko-paroli | hehe |
| 05:02.47 | Digital_Pioneer | PaulFertser: Aww, I was hoping you had found someone who knew how to make bluetooth work. |
| 05:03.14 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: are you too shy to ask shoragan himself? ;) |
| 05:03.32 | Digital_Pioneer | shoragan: WAKE UP AND SOLVE ALL MY PROBLEMS!!!! |
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| 05:03.36 | Digital_Pioneer | :) |
| 05:04.32 | Digital_Pioneer | PaulFertser: He seems otherwise disposed at the moment. :( |
| 05:07.45 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: early sunday morning in DE, no wonder. |
| 05:07.59 | PaulFertser | Well, now really gone :) |
| 05:09.15 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheh |
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| 07:07.59 | alphaone | mirko-paroli: Shoragan is familiar with bluez4 |
| 07:08.24 | mirko-paroli | alphaone: ok, will ask him later, or whenever I see him, for now it is all wifi :) |
| 07:08.39 | alphaone | :-) |
| 07:08.41 | alphaone | okay |
| 07:08.51 | mirko-paroli | alphaone: and it works btw ;) |
| 07:08.58 | alphaone | yay :-) |
| 07:09.53 | mirko-paroli | we are slowly getting somewhere here |
| 07:10.01 | alphaone | cool stuff |
| 07:10.06 | alphaone | What are you working on? |
| 07:10.07 | mirko-paroli | btw is the mutli-sms thingy working out? anything I can do to help? |
| 07:10.11 | mirko-paroli | paroli wifi manager |
| 07:10.11 | alphaone | BT support for paroli? |
| 07:10.17 | mirko-paroli | yes that would be the next thing |
| 07:10.51 | mirko-paroli | don't always want to rely on gprs to get my mails onto my neo ;) |
| 07:10.54 | alphaone | nice |
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| 07:13.50 | mirko-paroli | alphaone: i am trying to get away from the image of some fullscreen app blocking everything ;) |
| 07:14.21 | alphaone | mirko-paroli: I just need to implement the FragmentUserData function... |
| 07:15.41 | alphaone | mirko-paroli: But if you avoid putting close to the maximum amount of characters in an SMS you should be fine now |
| 07:16.13 | mirko-paroli | what is the max? |
| 07:16.16 | mirko-paroli | 1020 ? |
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| 07:38.11 | raster | homies |
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| 07:39.06 | sylar911 | raster: ahahah |
| 07:39.55 | raster | :-P~ |
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| 08:51.55 | Linkas | hi, i'm searching someone who have fyp on his neo. i need all files from /lib/modules/ |
| 08:52.34 | lindi- | Linkas: why not download those from the repo? |
| 08:53.31 | Linkas | i can't find it. i need tarball with modules from fyp kernel |
| 08:54.09 | lindi- | Linkas: where did you search? |
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| 08:56.40 | Linkas | lindi-:nowhere-i don't know where it can ba |
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| 08:57.26 | lindi- | Linkas: it's in the pkg-fso repo |
| 08:57.26 | Linkas | be* |
| 08:58.35 | Linkas | lindi-:i'll try find it there |
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| 09:41.59 | frankS2 | Hi |
| 09:42.03 | frankS2 | is OM not developed any more? |
| 09:42.24 | ndnihil | it's still being developed |
| 09:42.34 | ndnihil | they've just put a hold on the next version of the phone |
| 09:42.40 | frankS2 | hm ok |
| 09:42.44 | frankS2 | i see om 12 is still atest |
| 09:42.46 | frankS2 | latest |
| 09:42.48 | frankS2 | and its old |
| 09:43.12 | ndnihil | it's still being worked on |
| 09:43.17 | lindi- | frankS2: ah so you are talking about the distro |
| 09:43.23 | lindi- | frankS2: thought you were talking about hw |
| 09:43.29 | frankS2 | yes i am |
| 09:43.39 | lindi- | confusing names |
| 09:43.47 | ndnihil | SHR seems to be the popular dist for regular use |
| 09:43.57 | frankS2 | yes |
| 09:43.59 | frankS2 | but i dont like it |
| 09:44.01 | frankS2 | its buggy |
| 09:44.12 | ndnihil | its all buggy |
| 09:44.29 | mirko-paroli | frankS2: yes Om2009 is being developed and yes it also has its flaws |
| 09:44.47 | frankS2 | sighs |
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| 09:44.55 | frankS2 | hard to get this phone wokring as a phone |
| 09:44.57 | frankS2 | lol |
| 09:45.04 | ndnihil | I use mine regularly |
| 09:45.12 | ndnihil | more than I did the brokeberry I swiped the sim out of |
| 09:45.31 | mirko-paroli | frankS2: I also think that using the FR is doable, quite easily, I heard good things about SHR and OM2009 is also usable |
| 09:45.35 | lindi- | i'm trying to figure out why people sometimes complain they can't understand what I say over phone |
| 09:45.46 | mirko-paroli | ofc it is not a nokia/motorola/... |
| 09:45.47 | lindi- | ndnihil: do you ever hear such comments? |
| 09:46.08 | frankS2 | mirko-paroli: om 2009 is not out yet |
| 09:46.19 | mirko-paroli | frankS2: nope, 2nd testing image came out friday |
| 09:46.55 | ndnihil | lindi-: nope, I had a slight buzz, but 04/22 shr testing seems to have gotten rid of that in software somehow |
| 09:47.01 | ndnihil | I haven't done the hardware fix yet |
| 09:47.33 | lindi- | ndnihil: well, I have the buzz fix and I can't figure out anything wrong when I do test calls. yet sometimes people complain |
| 09:47.39 | frankS2 | mirko-paroli: uhm where can i get the image? |
| 09:47.47 | ndnihil | could just be a busy repeater |
| 09:48.18 | ndnihil | sometimes calls get crap quality because the repeater ups compression as it gets more loaded |
| 09:48.34 | ndnihil | they try to keep a certain percentage of available bandwidth free |
| 09:48.43 | lindi- | ndnihil: repeater ups compression? |
| 09:48.50 | ndnihil | increases it |
| 09:48.56 | ndnihil | which lowers voice quality |
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| 09:49.06 | lindi- | ndnihil: really? I thought gsm supported only two compression modes |
| 09:49.14 | ndnihil | between phone and repeater yes |
| 09:49.18 | lindi- | ndnihil: and the half-rate was not really used |
| 09:49.22 | ndnihil | but between repeater and CO no |
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| 09:50.24 | ajuonline | how do I compile tangogps from source for the FR? |
| 09:50.33 | lindi- | apt-get --build source tangogps |
| 09:50.49 | lindi- | sorry but that's how I do it |
| 09:50.55 | ajuonline | i am running the shr build |
| 09:50.56 | mirko-paroli | frankS2: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/daily/om-gta02/20090501/ |
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| 09:51.05 | ajuonline | lindi-: you on debian? |
| 09:51.15 | mirko-paroli | frankS2: for paroli take the fso-paroli image |
| 09:51.25 | frankS2 | mirko-paroli: whats the most usable u think? |
| 09:51.25 | mirko-paroli | if you prefer zhone take the other one ;) |
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| 09:51.29 | lindi- | ajuonline: yep |
| 09:51.44 | ajuonline | i made some changes to the source want to compile and try it out on the phone |
| 09:51.54 | lindi- | ajuonline: what sort of changes? |
| 09:52.02 | mirko-paroli | frankS2: well the only diff is the main phone app |
| 09:52.12 | frankS2 | ok |
| 09:52.16 | ajuonline | lindi-: just tinkering, trying to learn by experimenting |
| 09:52.18 | ndnihil | ajuonline: run the environment setup scripts and type make |
| 09:52.20 | mirko-paroli | I personally don't like the look and feel of zhone, guess it comes with the job ;) |
| 09:52.27 | frankS2 | i see only rootfs there mirko-paroli, is there any uImage? |
| 09:52.38 | lindi- | ajuonline: sounds dangerous :) |
| 09:52.38 | ajuonline | ndnihil: where do I find those scripts? |
| 09:52.42 | mirko-paroli | frankS2: very bottom |
| 09:52.43 | ajuonline | lindi-: i know :P |
| 09:52.50 | ndnihil | comes with the toolchain/utils |
| 09:53.00 | ndnihil | there's links and instructions on the wiki |
| 09:53.07 | ajuonline | ok |
| 09:53.10 | ajuonline | lookin |
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| 10:13.18 | PBeck | ahoi |
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| 10:33.31 | BluesLee | does liedekef join this channel? |
| 10:34.03 | BluesLee | anyone using liedekefs qtextended versions? |
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| 10:44.55 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: (confusing names) that's name confusion of ppl not caring ;-) |
| 10:45.28 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: imho the distro and company should have different names still |
| 10:45.56 | DocScrutinizer | OM is the Inc., OM200x is the sw, the devices are Neo, either neo 1973 or neo FR |
| 10:47.59 | DocScrutinizer | moin btw :-) |
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| 11:02.27 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: gsm has halfrate, fullrate, enhanced fullrate, and afaik adaptive rate now |
| 11:03.31 | DocScrutinizer | HR = 4800, FR = 9600, EFR = 14400 (also iirc) |
| 11:03.50 | shellevil | stabs the lack of easy CSD. |
| 11:04.31 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, GSM *has* |
| 11:04.35 | shellevil | yes |
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| 11:04.50 | shellevil | not easy as it takes ages to sync, and is costly and unavailable often |
| 11:05.04 | shellevil | Last I looked, I can't enable it on my SIM |
| 11:05.10 | DocScrutinizer | that's another topic |
| 11:05.19 | shellevil | yeah |
| 11:05.29 | shellevil | But it would be nice for 'SMS' type apps. |
| 11:05.50 | shellevil | For example, connect, send 9600 bits of un-error-corrected data in 1s, disconnect |
| 11:06.11 | DocScrutinizer | usually outbound csd is possible. for inbound you usually need dataplan and dedicated number |
| 11:06.47 | DocScrutinizer | 9600 even has EC |
| 11:06.58 | shellevil | IIRC it takes ages to sync though |
| 11:07.08 | DocScrutinizer | raw bw is 14400 |
| 11:07.18 | DrRabbit | hey, will the GTA03 have this feature? http://www.boingboing.net/2009/05/03/microwaving-a-cellph.html |
| 11:07.38 | DocScrutinizer | pff |
| 11:07.41 | shellevil | GTA03 is not being developed |
| 11:07.45 | shellevil | ATM |
| 11:07.48 | DrRabbit | oh |
| 11:08.01 | DrRabbit | well somebody should put that on the wishlist |
| 11:08.39 | DocScrutinizer | dunno what U r talking about, DrRabbit |
| 11:09.47 | shellevil | see the video |
| 11:10.52 | DocScrutinizer | pff, not going to happen |
| 11:10.58 | DrRabbit | :< |
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| 11:12.36 | DocScrutinizer | DrRabbit: it's unpolite to urge people to watch videos (on unsuited devices like cellphone or tablet even) to even get to know what U r talking bout at all :-( |
| 11:13.04 | DrRabbit | Oh |
| 11:13.22 | DrRabbit | Sorry :< |
| 11:13.38 | DocScrutinizer | and from name of url I think it's a pun anyway |
| 11:14.48 | DrRabbit | Hmm, I should probably upgrade my Neo |
| 11:15.34 | DocScrutinizer | so I shurely won't go to start midori and dl some mb of html-data just to know |
| 11:15.57 | DocScrutinizer | via GPRS! |
| 11:16.03 | DrRabbit | ouchie :< |
| 11:16.33 | DrRabbit | and it takes my mom like 30 minutes to download something 50 MB over her 3G connection |
| 11:16.54 | DrRabbit | stick wif wifi, wired if possible kthx |
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| 11:41.39 | CVirus | nielsle: what for ? |
| 11:42.22 | nielsle | Hmm.. aparently my irc client doesn't support command line arguments :) |
| 11:42.29 | CVirus | lol |
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| 12:37.18 | DrRabbit | okay now I have an actual problem/question |
| 12:37.55 | DrRabbit | hmmm.. |
| 12:38.46 | DrRabbit | when I run opkg update, I get a bunch of 404s |
| 12:38.53 | DrRabbit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.56 | DrRabbit | times four. |
| 12:39.13 | max_posedon | Om2008.8 *very* outdated |
| 12:39.27 | max_posedon | and not supported, you should flash smth new |
| 12:39.30 | DrRabbit | I though I had 2008.12 |
| 12:39.39 | DrRabbit | thought I did... :/ |
| 12:39.41 | DrRabbit | how can I be sure? |
| 12:40.42 | max_posedon | 2008.12 *very* outdated too |
| 12:40.53 | max_posedon | nobody care about it too |
| 12:40.53 | DrRabbit | oh okay. |
| 12:41.10 | DrRabbit | I wish I had more time to keep up with all this :< |
| 12:41.24 | max_posedon | you should select from latest images from shr/Om2009/qtextneded |
| 12:41.43 | max_posedon | or may be android. |
| 12:41.55 | DrRabbit | I hate google :< |
| 12:42.34 | DrRabbit | did they ever work out 3D acceleration? |
| 12:42.41 | DrRabbit | openmoko, tha tis |
| 12:42.43 | DrRabbit | that, is |
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| 12:48.26 | DrRabbit | max_posedon: where do I find Om2009? |
| 12:49.13 | DrRabbit | ah, http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ |
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| 12:49.34 | max_posedon | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/April_30,_2009 |
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| 12:55.07 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * rfae8af942bb7 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): edje.vapi: add skeleton |
| 12:55.07 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * re3af8f23b468 10/vapi/eina.vapi: eina.vapi: (whitespace only) sync layout with other vapi's |
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| 13:13.20 | DrRabbit | Why the hell does om-manager need ImageMagick? |
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| 13:40.03 | nio_ | Does OM2008.12 use those anti-echo AT commands? |
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| 14:10.04 | exeoeoe | http://3x3cut10n3r.mybrute.com/ <-- have fun & good luck |
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| 14:11.25 | shellevil | Lucky russia diddn't invade, as the place is clearly russian soil, as it's got russians in it. |
| 14:11.27 | shellevil | :) |
| 14:11.35 | shellevil | oops |
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| 14:16.37 | Alesis-Novik | Hmm, any idea why I can't get wget to work on SHR? |
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| 14:27.21 | Zorkman | Alesis-Novik it works here.. |
| 14:28.54 | Alesis-Novik | Hmm, I tried getting the debian install.sh, and it gave the Bad address line |
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| 14:38.53 | lindi- | Alesis-Novik: bad address line? |
| 14:39.29 | Alesis-Novik | It gives me bad address : pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org |
| 14:39.54 | lindi- | Alesis-Novik: dns broken? |
| 14:40.19 | Alesis-Novik | When I try to access it on Midori it looks fine |
| 14:41.32 | lindi- | Alesis-Novik: can you ping pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org? |
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| 14:50.33 | Alesis-Novik | lindi-, no, and now that I noticed it, midori stops working after about a minute of the connection start (I'm connecting to a wi-fi network) |
| 14:51.15 | lindi- | Alesis-Novik: ok, you need to figure out that. the unofficial debian installer can't fix your network yet |
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| 14:51.31 | lindi- | Alesis-Novik: the official debian installer would know how to use DHCP to configure your network |
| 14:52.37 | Alesis-Novik | I'm not even getting the installer |
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| 14:53.38 | lindi- | Alesis-Novik: ah, then the installer surely can't help you with that :) |
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| 14:54.49 | Alesis-Novik | yeah, I'm wondering if anyone else had this problem on SHR |
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| 14:58.09 | mwester-laptop | You're never going to get that downloaded or installed over the wifi -- set up the usb networking and try again. |
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| 15:46.18 | Toaster` | Question: My ssh keys are no longer accepted by my FR, I know they work, but I keep getting asked for my password when connecting. Anyone have any ideas as to what I can do? |
| 15:47.00 | thrashold | Toaster`: Accidentally trying different user? That was my problem last ten times I had that problem. :) |
| 15:47.36 | thrashold | Could be wrong permissions of the key files on either side, too |
| 15:48.33 | Toaster` | thrashold: maybe, but I have both my root and user public keys there. If I flash to a new image and copy over the same keys (they're on my uSD card), it works fine. I'm using a connection script on my end, so I know the commands are the same in both cases |
| 15:49.17 | thrashold | Toaster`: No, I meant ssh 192.168.0.202 instead of ssh root@192.168.0.202. That's what I usually do accidentally :) |
| 15:50.28 | thrashold | Also, openssh has options to disable key login. I don't know about dropbear |
| 15:51.16 | Toaster` | hrm, let me check the permissions... |
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| 15:52.08 | thrashold | Also, for the keys, my authorized_keys is 644 (I think it should not be writable by anyone but the user to work), id_[rd]sa is 600 (it shouldn't be readable by anyone else), and id_[rd]sa.pub shouldn't matter, but its 644 here |
| 15:52.43 | Toaster` | odd... my /home dir is uid:gid 1000:1000 whilst everything else is root:root |
| 15:53.42 | thrashold | Yep, the owner should also match. |
| 15:54.21 | Toaster` | bing |
| 15:54.22 | Toaster` | o |
| 15:54.36 | Toaster` | thrashold: Thanks for the idea ti check permissions |
| 15:55.15 | thrashold | You're welcome. :) |
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| 16:22.41 | PBeck | re |
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| 16:36.45 | selke | hey, if i run opkg update the paket-manager trys to download http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//all/Packages.gz but at the moment the folder shr-testing is named shr-testing-bad so that the download fails - how to fix this? |
| 16:37.45 | Toaster` | selke: wait until a new full build of shr-testing is ready? |
| 16:39.57 | selke | hrm okay, the problem is i have my openmoko just 3 days or so and i want to install some apps... but so i must wait... isn't it possible to correct the path on my openmoko? |
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| 16:46.46 | selke | Toaster`, what do you think, how long does it take to the new full build of shr-testing? |
| 16:48.18 | Toaster` | selke: not sure, I run unstable here |
| 16:48.47 | selke | Toaster`, how unstable is unstable?^^ |
| 16:49.01 | Toaster` | selke: depends on the day/update :) |
| 16:49.07 | mwester-laptop | better than testing right now (testing is broken!) |
| 16:49.18 | mwester-laptop | but it still has some troubles... |
| 16:49.21 | selke | okay so i flash my openmoko with unstable :D |
| 16:49.31 | Toaster` | I use my FR as my daily phone, though I have very few calls texts in/out. |
| 16:50.04 | selke | okay |
| 16:50.27 | Toaster` | selke: word of advice, keep a copy of your last good working images for you rootfs and kernel. just in case :) |
| 16:51.02 | selke | well but testing-bad is my only working image at the moment^^ |
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| 16:51.38 | Toaster` | Well, when you are falling off a cliff you may as well try to fly :) |
| 16:54.00 | mwester-laptop | hehe! Good analogy... |
| 16:54.37 | Toaster` | :) I forget where I stole it from... probably B5 |
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| 17:03.56 | DrRabbit | thinking of using FDOM, thoughts? |
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| 17:07.40 | DrRabbit | Anyone? |
| 17:09.17 | ajuonline | can anyone tell me whats wrong here? http://pastebin.ca/1411321 |
| 17:09.24 | ajuonline | while trying to compile tangogps from source? |
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| 17:21.47 | DrRabbit | flashing... |
| 17:22.23 | DrRabbit | So thrilling |
| 17:22.25 | DrRabbit | I don't know why. |
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| 17:46.11 | selke | now, after flashing shr-unstable sudo ifconfig -a doesn't show any usb0-device... i don't know how to connect now to my openmoko... |
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| 17:48.11 | selke | any suggestions? |
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| 17:52.34 | mwester-laptop | selke: read the wiki on the usb0/eth1 host issues? |
| 17:52.57 | selke | ok^^ |
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| 18:19.32 | linuxxr | selke did u figure it out? |
| 18:19.54 | linuxxr | had the same problem |
| 18:20.23 | linuxxr | ifconfig -a shoe an eth 2 or something? |
| 18:20.36 | linuxxr | w |
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| 18:21.04 | mwester-laptop | :) It's a feature. |
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| 18:21.30 | selke | linuxxr, no nothing |
| 18:22.18 | selke | linuxxr, if i unplug the device ifonfig -a is the same as if it is connected |
| 18:22.28 | linuxxr | same here |
| 18:23.47 | linuxxr | i tried to use an previous kernel but i cant seem to back up to an older kernel |
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| 18:25.13 | linuxxr | it keeps on showing up as 2.6.29 rc3 even if i flash a 2.6.28 kernel |
| 18:25.24 | linuxxr | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.08 | linuxxr | they said shr-unstable would be broken ,,an it is |
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| 18:30.44 | mwester-laptop | There is no 2.6.28 kernel; the package name lies. |
| 18:31.15 | mwester-laptop | If you flash the latest unstable kernel and image, you'll have a working usb network. |
| 18:31.46 | mwester-laptop | Have you flashed both image and the matching kernel? |
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| 18:47.23 | selke | there was some error while flashing kernel, i think this might be the problem... |
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| 19:07.26 | DrRabbit | okay, tiem to try SHR |
| 19:09.10 | lindi- | larsc: is your email blacklisted? I keep getting '<lars@metafoo.de>: host mx-in-1.synserver.de[217.119.50.218] said: 554 ip address 194.29.192.26 is blacklisted (ix.dnsbl.manitu.net), see http://postmaster.synserver.de/554_IP_ADDRESS (in reply to end of DATA command)' |
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| 19:13.48 | larsc | lindi-: i got at least one of your mails. but the error message looks as if your mailserver is blacklisted |
| 19:15.45 | lindi- | larsc: so it seems, argh |
| 19:15.54 | lindi- | larsc: i resent one mail from my work address |
| 19:16.00 | larsc | ah, ok |
| 19:16.10 | lindi- | larsc: the one that has the headers and all |
| 19:16.21 | lindi- | going to call my ISP next :) |
| 19:16.21 | mwester-laptop | lindi-: have you been spamming again? |
| 19:17.19 | lindi- | larsc: as usual it is very difficult to get out of these blacklists |
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| 19:18.51 | larsc | lindi-: yep |
| 19:18.51 | lindi- | larsc: what's metafoo.de? |
| 19:19.13 | lindi- | larsc: whois says its your own domain? |
| 19:19.18 | larsc | yes |
| 19:19.42 | lindi- | larsc: and the MX is this mx-in-1.synserver.de which thinks my ISP is blacklisted |
| 19:20.36 | larsc | yep |
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| 19:22.14 | lindi- | larsc: http://www.spamcannibal.org/cannibal.cgi lists one spam email that apparently was sent from netsonic which is my ISP |
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| 19:28.30 | SpeedEvil | It's going to horribly malfunction on any large ISP that doesn't have the users send their own mail |
| 19:28.45 | SpeedEvil | one spam by a virused user, and ... |
| 19:30.08 | lindi- | larsc: i'm not sure whom to contact here. either your MX is using an unreliable blacklist or my ISP is really not handling its spam problemwell |
| 19:31.37 | larsc | lindi-: i guess you should contact your isp and tell them that they are blacklisted at ix.dnsbl.manitu.net. |
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| 19:39.42 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 19:39.56 | SpeedEvil | It's - strictly speaking - the ISPs fault. |
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| 19:40.28 | SpeedEvil | But the only way to ensure you get no spam coming from a smarthost serving thousands of users is to read every one. |
| 19:42.57 | linuxxr | 3000 emails from i person is a real good indicator |
| 19:43.42 | lindi- | larsc: yep sent them email |
| 19:44.04 | lindi- | larsc: got some alternative address I could use? ;) |
| 19:44.18 | SpeedEvil | yes - but that blacklist will fire from the first email from the user |
| 19:44.46 | SpeedEvil | (if it happens to hit the blacklists hole) |
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| 19:47.08 | SpeedEvil | Or to have absolute control over software installed on machines, which is similarly impractical in environments other than corporates. |
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| 19:51.39 | selke | are there any games which you control with the motion sensors? |
| 19:52.01 | johnsu01 | selke: mokomaze |
| 19:52.05 | johnsu01 | quite fun :) |
| 19:52.07 | selke | or is it possible to use this sensors as shortcuts?^^ |
| 19:52.10 | selke | johnsu01, thanks |
| 19:52.18 | johnsu01 | selke: there is also acceleroids |
| 19:52.21 | dos1 | selke: mokomaze, openmoocow, mokofight |
| 19:52.32 | johnsu01 | which is like asteroids, I found that one harder to control but I think it'd be possible to get used to it |
| 19:52.59 | selke | thx |
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| 19:59.38 | selke | opkg doesn't find mokomaze |
| 20:00.33 | spaetz | therre is no mokomazze pkg for shr yet |
| 20:00.42 | selke | okay |
| 20:00.49 | selke | must leave now |
| 20:00.54 | selke | thanks for your help guys |
| 20:01.04 | selke | openmoko rocks :D cu |
| 20:01.12 | spaetz | i'll get it ffixed this week |
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| 20:23.31 | frankS2 | In OM 2009, how do i get access to the 3rd party tools i install? |
| 20:23.39 | frankS2 | they do not appear on the program list |
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| 20:43.14 | Weiss | frankS2: in that case, either launch from a terminal or manually create an icon (add a file in /usr/share/applications) |
| 20:43.23 | Weiss | or nudge the author to add a proper launcher.. |
| 20:44.35 | frankS2 | Weiss: i got no launcher for terminal :P |
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| 20:45.43 | Weiss | frankS2: d'oh.. do you have a terminal installed? |
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| 21:28.57 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-05-02 19:58:18] <PaulFertser> DocMobilizer: opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/armv4t/libsdl-ttf_2.0.3-r1_armv4t.ipk |
| 21:29.08 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-05-02 20:06:34] <PaulFertser> DocMobilizer: opkg install http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/785/libode_0.11-ant1_armv4t.ipk |
| 21:29.20 | DocScrutinizer | [2009-05-02 19:54:26] <DocMobilizer> opkg install http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/782/mokomaze_0.5.0-1_armv4t.ipk |
| 21:29.42 | DocScrutinizer | spaetz: ^ |
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| 21:29.58 | DocScrutinizer | Selke:^ |
| 21:30.13 | DocScrutinizer | thanks to PaulFertser :D |
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