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| 02:53.47 | Psi_ | anyone running shr-testing on gta02 and can tell me what happens when the battery goes flat while the phone is suspended |
| 02:54.46 | Psi_ | is it supposed to warn you? On gta01 it seems to discharge the battery to zero volts :( |
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| 03:06.44 | raster | nothing has changed |
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| 03:54.14 | mwester | Psi_: The gta01 requires some non-trivial special code to handle that situation; the gta02 should do better. If it does not wake and shutdown, that would be a bug -- please open a ticket on the SHR trac on that. |
| 04:05.12 | ndnihil | wow |
| 04:05.16 | ndnihil | new shr testing is pretty nice |
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| 04:27.28 | slaxxer | theres a new one? |
| 04:30.17 | slaxxer | i have todays unstable shr |
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| 04:37.15 | slaxxer | suspencion failure |
| 04:37.47 | slaxxer | nope it suspended |
| 04:39.19 | slaxxer | looks like a full minuite + to suspend |
| 04:39.43 | slaxxer | 5 seconds to come out |
| 04:43.33 | mwester | Yep |
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| 05:43.48 | ndnihil | slaxxer: this is from the 22nd |
| 05:43.52 | ndnihil | new to me at any rate |
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| 06:20.52 | Psi_ | mwester: re: wake on battery low comment before)m using gta01 |
| 06:21.02 | Psi_ | m=i'm |
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| 07:03.02 | Yashy | My neo freerunner doesn't last more than 5 hours on a full battery, I tried it today with no GPSr and no phone calls at all. |
| 07:04.08 | lindi- | Yashy: better keep it in suspend? |
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| 07:13.29 | Yashy | lindi-: I believe it is in suspend most of the time, and I upgraded it (opkg update & opkg upgrade) yesterday before my test |
| 07:13.35 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 07:26.23 | lindi- | Yashy: believe? |
| 07:26.32 | lindi- | Yashy: how much does it consume in suspend? |
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| 07:44.24 | DocScrutinizer | raster: a 90sec fix for illume-bar please. Move "querty" for kbd invocation from right to center |
| 07:45.56 | DocScrutinizer | oops |
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| 07:57.14 | raster | DocScrutinizer: it's not a 90sec fix |
| 07:57.27 | raster | its part of the shelf design (as are tyhe next/prev arrows) |
| 07:57.54 | raster | thus moving it to the middle will halve the width of the gadget area that the qwerty button is in |
| 07:58.00 | raster | so it has big implications |
| 07:58.04 | DocScrutinizer | oh, so position isn't easy to change? |
| 07:58.58 | raster | no |
| 07:59.06 | raster | not without affecting a bunch of other things |
| 07:59.09 | raster | i can move |
| 07:59.25 | raster | but the middle means the whole "area" for gaadgets at the top gets halved |
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| 07:59.26 | DocScrutinizer | hmm there's just the wrench on left side |
| 07:59.35 | raster | yes but you can put anyting u like that |
| 07:59.47 | raster | my defaults also include a pager as i enabled virtual desktops |
| 07:59.52 | raster | (have 4 of them) |
| 08:00.07 | DocScrutinizer | ahh I see |
| 08:00.19 | raster | so not hard to move |
| 08:00.30 | raster | but i screw other things in the process |
| 08:00.45 | DocScrutinizer | insert a spacer? |
| 08:00.47 | raster | but the theme can pretty much determine where it is and what it looks like |
| 08:00.53 | DocScrutinizer | right to querty |
| 08:00.56 | raster | well its not the spacer |
| 08:01.05 | raster | its that you reduce the gagdte area so much |
| 08:02.57 | DocScrutinizer | well probably assigning kbd to AUX is a good workaround |
| 08:04.01 | DocScrutinizer | raster: another fix: close dropdown menu when hitting wrench, same as it's done for "querty" |
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| 08:08.04 | methril|work | good morning |
| 08:08.39 | DocScrutinizer | raster: (querty) would it be difficult to add this next to left-arrow instead of dropdown (or somewhere else in non-dropdown bar, among the other gadgets there)? |
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| 08:12.02 | raster | DocScrutinizer: thats not easy. wrench is a generic module |
| 08:12.06 | raster | it knows nothing of the top shelf |
| 08:12.13 | raster | and the shelf knows nothing of the actions of gadgets inside of it |
| 08:12.26 | raster | thus there is no path to propagate some "Close" |
| 08:12.42 | raster | and yes - it'd be possible to move it |
| 08:13.02 | raster | but i moved it because i kind of made the assumption that widget sets should more often than not request the kbd properly |
| 08:13.09 | raster | thus oinly sometimes will u need the manual control |
| 08:13.54 | DocScrutinizer | alas that's not true (yet?) |
| 08:13.56 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * rc83092c97818 10/framework/subsystems/otimed/otimed.py: otimed: handle the case where no network code is present correctly |
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| 08:17.57 | spaetz | DocScrutinizer: nope. so far the keyboard isn't really requested automatically by a lot of stuff |
| 08:18.08 | spaetz | I'd wish e.g. vala-terminal would pop up the keyboard |
| 08:18.18 | raster | DocScrutinizer: gtk should have it - install the matchbox kbd plugin |
| 08:18.28 | raster | elementary requests it too when an entry is focused |
| 08:18.37 | raster | and qt has patches already int he qtopia x11 port... |
| 08:18.42 | raster | so that covers most things |
| 08:18.52 | raster | as i said - it is covered in most cases. |
| 08:19.16 | raster | some its not - and thus its still there/. if shr or om isnt shipping the mb input plugin, not using the qt patches |
| 08:19.17 | DocScrutinizer | get a ison-property to define whether (and which) kbd to rise on app start? |
| 08:19.36 | raster | or somehow isnt shipping elementary in a working state... thats a matter not for a manual kbd button there |
| 08:19.58 | raster | it already uses properties |
| 08:20.05 | raster | the mb proto doesnt tho |
| 08:20.08 | raster | so its less reliable |
| 08:21.44 | DocScrutinizer | raster: wich TZ? unusual time for Sydney ;) |
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| 08:22.30 | DocScrutinizer | nah, nevermind |
| 08:22.42 | DocScrutinizer | unusual time for *me* |
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| 09:03.56 | rhaeder | DHL is unable to deliver packages to a person who is absend (out to work e.g.) :( pulster wrote my address correctly, DHL didn't leave a notification card for me... |
| 09:04.14 | rhaeder | hmmm, I hope they can deliver it to the "Packstation"... |
| 09:04.36 | tobii_ | only if you are registered |
| 09:04.37 | tobii_ | ;D |
| 09:04.49 | tobii_ | i know this problem... |
| 09:07.07 | rhaeder | I have registered with Packstation :) |
| 09:07.18 | tobii_ | aah ok |
| 09:07.20 | rhaeder | and pulster does now have my customer number |
| 09:07.32 | rhaeder | it is for free, currently: www.packstation.de |
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| 10:21.11 | frankS2 | when SHR goes in "resting mode" screen turns black and i have to use to button on the side to activate it again, am i not able to retrieve calls? |
| 10:23.21 | DocScrutinizer | frankS2: that would be quite senseless, no? ;-) |
| 10:26.18 | DocScrutinizer | frankS2: actually SHR resumes flawlessly on inbound call/sms here |
| 10:28.46 | frankS2 | ok |
| 10:28.48 | frankS2 | cool |
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| 10:49.57 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * rf4a56e556bf4 10/src/obj.vala: added ListInterfacesByObject |
| 10:49.58 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r60771ad6004d 10/src/obj.vala: introducing objectPathListToArray |
| 10:49.59 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r773e7727ef54 10/src/obj.vala: Now ListObjectPaths returns DBus.ObjectPath[] |
| 10:50.00 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r633bafd4a78e 10/src/obj.vala: ListObjectsByInterface returns DBus.ObjectPath |
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| 11:31.09 | DocScrutinizer | frankS2: that's with SHR-testing as of 2009-04-16 |
| 11:31.52 | DocScrutinizer | I heard more recent SHR has some regressions wrt to resume |
| 11:32.38 | frankS2 | no |
| 11:32.40 | frankS2 | i tested it now |
| 11:32.41 | frankS2 | it works |
| 11:32.43 | frankS2 | unstable |
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| 11:48.48 | Wonka | http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2009/04/26#20090426-openmoko_com - i don't get it? |
| 11:53.15 | Weiss | Wonka: OM using Gmail? |
| 11:54.16 | roh | .com |
| 11:54.33 | roh | not .org *sigh* ... means the lists and so on are not affected. |
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| 12:00.45 | jc | correct, not .org |
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| 12:11.48 | Wonka | afaik, quite many .coms use google mail... |
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| 12:12.24 | Wonka | so i just wondered if there's more to it than "all openmoko.com mail is handled by google mail". |
| 12:13.56 | jc | Wonka: for me, no. It just simply switch mail from OM's server to google mail. |
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| 12:14.39 | Wonka | if this was effectively "google bought om inc.", now that would have been news :) |
| 12:15.04 | Psi_ | whats the most usable browser to install on my shr-testing phone atm |
| 12:15.28 | jc | Wonka: this seems not the case. |
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| 12:17.37 | rwhitby | If I wanted to cut costs at om.com, I'd switch to Google Apps too. |
| 12:18.42 | jc | rwhitby: well, the truth is....most of the hardware venders of om are located in Taiwan. |
| 12:19.14 | jc | rwhitby: and some of them have problem of setting their mail servers. |
| 12:19.46 | jc | rwhitby: so, the spam filiter block their mail quite often. |
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| 12:22.16 | jc | rwhitby: this will be the official reason. |
| 12:22.42 | jc | rwhitby: not because cut costs |
| 12:22.54 | rwhitby | fair enough |
| 12:22.56 | jc | Wonka: not google bought om. |
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| 12:26.30 | Wonka | .oO( and even if - OM's products are still more open than Android ) |
| 12:27.12 | jc | Wonka: I have no comment on this. |
| 12:27.19 | roh | Wonka ;) |
| 12:27.26 | jc | look at the NDA...... |
| 12:28.08 | roh | jc you signed an nda? *ducks* |
| 12:28.23 | roh | ;) |
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| 12:28.32 | Wonka | .oO( sei nicht so roh zu ihm! *duck* ) |
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| 12:29.42 | Wonka | *sigh* would be nice if the pkg-fso debian repo could get some packages updated... |
| 12:29.52 | Psi_ | where abouts is the new message sound on shr? i cant seem to find it |
| 12:30.05 | Wonka | cellhunter works in SHR, but something regularly breaks on debian |
| 12:30.19 | Wonka | and I tend to blame the frameworkd |
| 12:30.48 | DocScrutinizer | pffff google |
| 12:31.09 | DocScrutinizer | mumbles swearwords about google crap |
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| 12:34.45 | Psi_ | someone must know where it is, its not .wav .ogg or .mp3, ive searched for them |
| 12:35.26 | Psi_ | not .flac either |
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| 12:38.21 | Psi_ | hm.. its a sid file |
| 12:38.26 | Psi_ | never heard of that before |
| 12:41.24 | DocScrutinizer | Psi_: some amiga format |
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| 12:45.55 | DocScrutinizer | thinks it's quite amazing FR has a function to playback *.sid just for this one file, while desktops seem to need third party installs to even know now to handle it |
| 12:46.33 | DocScrutinizer | missing to see the rationale behind that |
| 12:47.01 | SpeedEvil | Someone thought it'd be cool. |
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| 12:47.31 | DocScrutinizer | what? arcanoids or *.sid? |
| 12:47.42 | SpeedEvil | sid |
| 12:47.56 | DocScrutinizer | for arcanoids it's simple to convert it to wav or whatever |
| 12:48.52 | DocScrutinizer | shrugs |
| 12:49.18 | lindi- | arcanoids is non-free :( |
| 12:50.41 | Zorkman | DocScrutinizer: i suspect mickey ;-) http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/category/professional/iphone/ |
| 12:50.52 | DocScrutinizer | sure mickey |
| 12:51.24 | Zorkman | hoe does enough good stuff to be able to do something crazy once in a while ;-) |
| 12:51.27 | Zorkman | *he |
| 12:51.39 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
| 12:51.57 | Zorkman | I only know that arkaniod makes people think even the speaker is broken in my Fr :) |
| 12:53.54 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 12:54.29 | DocScrutinizer | attracts immediate attention of all people around, yeah |
| 12:55.02 | DocScrutinizer | lots of ahh's and OOoh's and even more eeewww's ;-) |
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| 12:59.28 | DocScrutinizer | anyway I love it |
| 13:00.52 | DocScrutinizer | (you probably already guessed that from my knowledge abot how hard it is to playback on desktop PC ;) |
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| 13:03.08 | DocScrutinizer | still I wonder what "non-free" might implicate here |
| 13:05.06 | DocScrutinizer | mickey is mentioning a "NTSC" button - no idea what that might mean except "never twice same color" - but sounds like mickey is aware of some issues here |
| 13:05.19 | DocScrutinizer | s/is/has/ |
| 13:05.28 | DocScrutinizer | bah |
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| 13:53.35 | mickeyl | C64 playback speed was coupled to the TV system |
| 13:53.54 | mickeyl | In america and some parts of australia, .sids played faster |
| 13:54.11 | mickeyl | when i released the first sid player for iphone, these guys complained since we played all in PAL |
| 13:54.26 | mickeyl | now you can chose based on where you grew up :) |
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| 13:56.53 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * rd361ea5729d5 10/data/dbus-hlid.conf: make it accessable on paranoid dbus configurations |
| 13:56.54 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * r543e50b28fcd 10/ChangeLog: yank ChangeLog |
| 13:56.54 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * ra91af4424897 10/ (Makefile.am configure.ac): release as 1.0.0 |
| 13:56.55 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * r65207a9f64ce 10/configure.ac: post-release version bump |
| 13:57.14 | SM2k | busy bot.... |
| 13:57.57 | Zorkman_ | mickeyl: will anything important change now you're no longer on the OE core team? |
| 13:59.30 | mickeyl | i will not commit to OE for a while, but work on a tree in git.freesmartphone.org |
| 13:59.51 | mickeyl | i will probably try to get some allys for a discussion whether a true fork makes sense or not |
| 14:00.27 | Zorkman_ | ok, I wish you the best of luck |
| 14:00.31 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 14:00.52 | Zorkman_ | have you considered making a coup? :) |
| 14:01.44 | mickeyl | well, in comparison to some well known tyran in OE it's not exactly my style mobbing someone else out of the project |
| 14:01.58 | mickeyl | so i would have a hard time pursuing this way |
| 14:03.13 | mickeyl | there's a whole bunch of scared away contributors though, perhaps i can revitalize some of those along the way |
| 14:04.43 | mickeyl | i wonder how other foss communities handle such cases |
| 14:04.48 | mickeyl | need to research a bit |
| 14:05.14 | Zorkman_ | hope it all turns out for the best |
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| 15:09.22 | mickeyl | ~seen balrog-kun |
| 15:09.25 | apt | balrog-kun <n=balrog@211-goc-32.acn.waw.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 10d 2h 42m 15s ago, saying: 'under freebsd'. |
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| 15:30.37 | Kronk | says hi |
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| 15:55.06 | Kronk | hey guys trying to get to www.opkg.org but unable to ? |
| 15:55.19 | Kronk | Just wondering if this is a "local" problem or not ? Can anyone get to it ok ? |
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| 16:15.58 | Zorkman_ | Kronk: i can acces it |
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| 16:20.59 | skamster | hello there |
| 16:21.05 | skamster | i had a problem with dbus |
| 16:21.11 | skamster | root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages GetFolderNames |
| 16:21.11 | skamster | /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages: GetFolderNames failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied |
| 16:21.11 | skamster | root@om-gta02 ~ $ |
| 16:21.21 | skamster | why is access denied? |
| 16:21.51 | mickey|bbl | welcome to the wonderful world of paranoid dbus. did you update to Jaunty? |
| 16:22.03 | skamster | yes |
| 16:22.05 | mickey|bbl | hehe |
| 16:22.07 | mickey|bbl | i knew |
| 16:22.18 | skamster | oh, are you mickey, the fso-developer? |
| 16:22.19 | skamster | :D |
| 16:22.26 | mickey|bbl | at your service |
| 16:22.36 | skamster | gut, dann kann ich ja deutsch schreiben ;) |
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| 16:22.48 | skamster | ich wäre der vom openmoko-stand an der openexpo |
| 16:22.49 | skamster | :) |
| 16:22.55 | Kronk | ta Zorkman I'll have a look must be this end ? |
| 16:23.01 | mickey|bbl | please not, i'm sure these folks here have the same problesm |
| 16:23.07 | skamster | ah, ok |
| 16:23.15 | mickey|bbl | edit /etc/dbus-1/system.d/frameworkd.conf |
| 16:23.21 | mickey|bbl | for every service you need to add some lines |
| 16:23.32 | skamster | mmh, that's strange |
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| 16:23.45 | skamster | yesterday i deleted some messanges with mdbus |
| 16:23.49 | skamster | with jaunty |
| 16:24.02 | skamster | and i had the access |
| 16:24.09 | skamster | today, i hadn't |
| 16:24.10 | mickey|bbl | ok, opimd is somewhat special |
| 16:24.11 | skamster | :s |
| 16:24.25 | mickey|bbl | it's the only service where multiple object paths are served by one class |
| 16:24.34 | skamster | it's also on retrivemessage and something like |
| 16:24.49 | mickey|bbl | does ogsmd access work? |
| 16:25.00 | skamster | yes |
| 16:25.08 | skamster | just in console it doesn't |
| 16:25.23 | mickey|bbl | hmm, fun, then i need to do some more tests |
| 16:25.28 | mickey|bbl | it's something with the config |
| 16:25.31 | mickey|bbl | and allowing paths |
| 16:25.45 | skamster | ok.. |
| 16:25.53 | mickey|bbl | try widening the allowed paths |
| 16:25.55 | mickey|bbl | such as |
| 16:26.07 | skamster | edit frameworkd.conf work's? |
| 16:26.07 | mickey|bbl | <allow send_path="/"/> |
| 16:26.10 | mickey|bbl | yes |
| 16:26.18 | skamster | good, thx.. :) |
| 16:26.26 | mickey|bbl | i'm not sure whether this is enough, but give it a try |
| 16:26.32 | mickey|bbl | i can do more tests later tonite here |
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| 16:30.58 | Kronk | Out of interest has anyone in here played around with some of the latest SHR images ? |
| 16:31.33 | Zorkman | i'm on latest shr-testing |
| 16:31.56 | Kronk | cool |
| 16:32.22 | Kronk | I've just loaded the 27Apr Unstable image and I'm having difficulty setting my timezone correctly ? |
| 16:32.48 | Kronk | trying to symlink but it keeps dumping back to UTC think it might be a permissions issue ? |
| 16:32.54 | Zorkman | Kronk: have you read http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks#Time ? |
| 16:33.17 | Zorkman | don't forget to edit /etc/timezone |
| 16:33.22 | Kronk | ta :) |
| 16:33.24 | Kronk | will do |
| 16:33.24 | Zorkman | it worked for me |
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| 17:07.15 | DocScrutinizer | hmm,for me the TZ madness fixed itself after a few days/gps fixes/calls whatever |
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| 17:09.36 | DocScrutinizer | for the first one or two gps fixes it was off by 1h DST "correcting" systime to the wrong value. now it works tho I didn't do anything for it |
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| 17:10.24 | DocScrutinizer | probably the month-off-by-one issue |
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| 18:44.26 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r94097b1f553b 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: |
| 18:44.26 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: [#417 - Part 1] Generate enumerations |
| 18:44.26 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
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| 19:07.58 | Quinn_Storm | hey guys, I forget, I know I've recovered from this before, but how do you recover from a "really dead battery" on a 1973> |
| 19:08.06 | Quinn_Storm | (gta01bv4) |
| 19:08.43 | dos1 | Quinn_Storm: use some Nokia battery, plug usb cable to neo, boot, suspend, quickly replace battery (with plugged usb), resume |
| 19:09.54 | Quinn_Storm | don't have another battery |
| 19:11.12 | Quinn_Storm | also, just curious, is anyone out there looking for a gta01bv4? I'd be happy to trade up to a gta02 if possible (can't afford to just buy one myself) |
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| 19:12.27 | SpeedEvil | Quinn_Storm: don't suuppose you've got a lab PSU? |
| 19:12.41 | Quinn_Storm | unfortunately no, I'm just an average all-purpose geek |
| 19:12.50 | Quinn_Storm | I know I've recovered from this before |
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| 19:12.55 | Quinn_Storm | its recovered from being down for months uncharged |
| 19:13.18 | daMaestro | Quinn_Storm, i have a broken screen gta02 i might be willing to send you |
| 19:13.48 | daMaestro | you could likely use the screen from your 01 for it? |
| 19:13.51 | Quinn_Storm | I coldn't do the swap unfortunately unless the gta01 is an identical subassembly but I doubt it |
| 19:14.00 | Quinn_Storm | can't solder to save her life |
| 19:14.46 | mmontour | Quinn_Storm: on gta01: unplug usb, remove battery, wait 10 seconds, replace battery, plug in USB, wait an hour or so without pressing any buttons (I think this still works) |
| 19:14.57 | Quinn_Storm | ok, gonna do that |
| 19:16.22 | daMaestro | i had to buy extra batteries to recover my "really, really dead" 1973 |
| 19:16.35 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r97e4640317a7 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: |
| 19:16.35 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Index Vala names per DBus names prior to generation |
| 19:16.35 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr> |
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| 19:17.58 | Quinn_Storm | wonders, doesn't know enough about the display setup, isn't sure it'd be possible to swap a gta01 display into a gta02 |
| 19:18.22 | Quinn_Storm | would have to disassemble the 01 and hasn't ever done that |
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| 19:20.10 | SpeedEvil | Quinn_Storm: yes, IIRC. |
| 19:21.09 | Quinn_Storm | ah interesting |
| 19:21.19 | Quinn_Storm | well, I'd be intrigued to give it a try |
| 19:21.25 | Quinn_Storm | it looks like its double-sided tape on the gta01 |
| 19:21.34 | Quinn_Storm | I can't find a good teardown of the gta02 though |
| 19:21.44 | Quinn_Storm | oh, is it US or worldwide? (the broken gta02) |
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| 19:23.38 | Wonka | aaargh. |
| 19:24.12 | daMaestro | US |
| 19:24.20 | SpeedEvil | Quinn_Storm: maybe ... january, I had a discussion I think with PaulFertser on how to upgrade screen on here. |
| 19:24.20 | Wonka | how did one convince SHR not to suspend? |
| 19:24.26 | Quinn_Storm | cool, perfect |
| 19:24.43 | Quinn_Storm | SpeedEvil: oh? interesting, if this is a no-solder project I can probably do it |
| 19:24.44 | Wonka | setting suspend timeout to -1 in settings app is not enough... |
| 19:24.58 | Quinn_Storm | is imagining just some ribbon-edge connectors and 2s tape |
| 19:25.11 | SpeedEvil | Quinn_Storm: IIRC yes, it was pretty much that. |
| 19:25.59 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: you mean how to dismount LCM? Everything i know about it is poorly paraphrased DocScrutinizer's words. |
| 19:26.37 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: I probably meant him, yes. |
| 19:26.54 | Quinn_Storm | basically I want to swap an LCM from a gta01 into a gta02 (assuming I can get that gta02) |
| 19:26.55 | SpeedEvil | sorry - somethimes I blank on names |
| 19:27.12 | SpeedEvil | As I understand it, it's possible, but I'd want to check back on logs |
| 19:28.04 | Quinn_Storm | isn't sure where to look |
| 19:28.57 | PaulFertser | Quinn_Storm: I think it's possible. Just ask DocScrutinizer for more detailed instructions. The important part is to heat the whole device to 50-60 so the glue won't be so hard and you'll be able to dismount LCM. |
| 19:29.48 | Quinn_Storm | interesting, so..hair-dryer or something, held at careful distance? |
| 19:30.57 | SpeedEvil | oven maybe |
| 19:31.13 | Quinn_Storm | ok cool, I can probably do that, if I can get ahold of that gta02, daMaestro |
| 19:31.17 | SpeedEvil | Do however check that the thermostat functions. |
| 19:31.18 | Quinn_Storm | and yeah the wiki mentions blow-dryer |
| 19:31.23 | SpeedEvil | lost a laptop that way. |
| 19:31.31 | Quinn_Storm | lol ovens don't work down to 50-60 usually, do they? |
| 19:31.33 | SpeedEvil | Well - the case. |
| 19:31.33 | daMaestro | Quinn_Storm, i'll work on finding my hardware |
| 19:31.36 | SpeedEvil | Quinn_Storm: yes |
| 19:31.41 | SpeedEvil | Quinn_Storm: rising bread |
| 19:31.41 | daMaestro | Quinn_Storm, it's been stuck into the abyss |
| 19:31.47 | Quinn_Storm | ok cool |
| 19:32.02 | Quinn_Storm | waits for her gta01 to trickle-charge |
| 19:32.18 | ndnihil | what's so great about the gta01 display that would motivate a swap? |
| 19:32.26 | daMaestro | Quinn_Storm, you doing development or just an end-user? |
| 19:32.27 | SpeedEvil | ndnihil: not broken |
| 19:32.34 | ndnihil | that'll do it |
| 19:32.51 | SpeedEvil | ndnihil: broken screen gta02 -> gta01 screen - > working gta02 |
| 19:33.00 | ndnihil | thought I was missing out on a nifty hardware upgrade or something :) |
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| 19:33.33 | Quinn_Storm | daMaestro: I'd like to do some development, haven't been into it much with my non-us gta01 that really doesn't help me much here in the us |
| 19:34.20 | ndnihil | dibs on the broken carcass? |
| 19:34.23 | ndnihil | :) |
| 19:34.43 | fredrin | do a finger friendly python editor exist? lol |
| 19:35.06 | Quinn_Storm | finger-friendly editors are in general a bit tough |
| 19:35.31 | ndnihil | finger friendly editors come with separate keyboards |
| 19:35.40 | Quinn_Storm | lol |
| 19:37.08 | Quinn_Storm | is excited, will have to go out and get a tmo prepaid sim for it again when she gets the gta02 up and running |
| 19:37.14 | Quinn_Storm | assuming the LCM is all that's broken |
| 19:37.16 | Quinn_Storm | and its swappable |
| 19:38.02 | tore | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:05.04 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * r1fc7cc860af3 10/src/opimd/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:05.04 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: opimd: implement opimd_contact_delete |
| 20:05.04 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> |
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| 20:17.00 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r354ad103c589 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_contacts.py: opimd: add Delete() method in Contacts domain |
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| 20:20.40 | fredrin | where's DAVE? |
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| 20:24.54 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r9ff9e0140bee 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sqlite_contacts.py: opimd: add support for deleting contacts in SQLite backend. Worked by Heinervdm too. |
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| 20:41.29 | toggles_w | anyone know how to clear out the sim card from the command line? sms app keeps crashing and saying it's full |
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| 20:44.48 | wurp2|working | toggles_w: Are you asking how to enter AT commands from teh command line, or which command to enter? |
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| 20:47.11 | PaulFertser | toggles_w: you can use mdbus -s to find out the commands to interact with SIM. It's in the ogsmd bus. |
| 20:55.16 | Quinn_Storm | hates her internet connection |
| 20:57.32 | SpeedEvil | too. |
| 20:57.52 | SpeedEvil | 95% of the time it syncs at 2550kbps. |
| 20:58.12 | SpeedEvil | So of course, it throttles the speed at 250K, as it occasionally syncs at that too. |
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| 21:16.34 | Digital_Pioneer | Anyone around to help me get bluetooth calls working in SHR-unstable? |
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| 21:38.42 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03smartphone-userland 07cornucopia * r7521e9c1df8a 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/Makefile.am: |
| 21:38.42 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: libfsotransport: move fsotransport.h |
| 21:38.42 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: commit b26bc573a325ddca66fcd1788047322b6611cab6 |
| 21:38.42 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Author: Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de> |
| 21:38.43 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Date: Tue Apr 28 20:07:33 2009 +0200 |
| 21:38.46 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Placement of fsotransport.h according to the similiar change in |
| 21:38.48 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: libgsm0710mux, so libgsm0710mux can find it when compiling |
| 21:42.09 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03dos 07framework * r0a3b7cd7663d 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sqlite_contacts.py: opimd: SQLite_Contacts: set _backend_entry_id in add_entry too. Fixes problem with deleting new contacts. |
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| 22:00.08 | Digital_Pioneer | Can SOMEONE tell me what it is about the statefile that says to use bluetooth instead of the builtin speakers?? |
| 22:02.05 | DocScrutinizer | Quinn_Storm: PaulFertser is right about the quotings of my instructions |
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| 22:04.16 | DocScrutinizer | Quinn_Storm: open connector, disconnect FlatPlasticConnector, warm up device by storing it at a warm place (<80°C!), **slowly** lift the LCM from PCB to make double sided sticky to come off |
| 22:04.54 | DocScrutinizer | Quinn_Storm: slowly might mean: takes 10..15minutes of applying constant but gentle force |
| 22:07.39 | DocScrutinizer | Quinn_Storm: aah, forgot: 1.: remove steel-fabric sticky from can and connector (~10mm) |
| 22:08.27 | DocScrutinizer | caaarefully! ;-) |
| 22:08.39 | DocScrutinizer | not to break FPC |
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| 22:12.07 | DocScrutinizer | btw my oven here starts at 50° and has a fairly detailed dial until 100°. I'd always prefer it to hairdryer |
| 22:13.57 | DocScrutinizer | Digital_Pioneer: please can you rephrase your question?! |
| 22:14.28 | Digital_Pioneer | DocScrutinizer: How do I make the stupid thing send audio to the bluetooth device instead of the builtin speakers? |
| 22:14.39 | DocScrutinizer | I'm not "SOMEONE" but maybe I can answer as soon as I understand the Q |
| 22:14.39 | Digital_Pioneer | (And record audio from it, too, for that matter) |
| 22:15.14 | DocScrutinizer | send from *where*? |
| 22:15.27 | Digital_Pioneer | GSM calls |
| 22:16.48 | DocScrutinizer | the oint with GSM_BT.state is you are using the wolfson mixer ADC and DAC to cnvert the analog audio from / to modem to/from digital domain, then send it via PCM interface to BT-module |
| 22:16.58 | DocScrutinizer | Point even |
| 22:17.52 | Digital_Pioneer | OK, so why doesn't it work? :P |
| 22:18.19 | DocScrutinizer | you make it send/receive audio from BT-PCM to GSM-analog by `alsacontrol restore -f bt-gsm.state |
| 22:18.32 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: which bt headset? |
| 22:18.36 | lindi- | Digital_Pioneer: ^ |
| 22:18.54 | Digital_Pioneer | lindi-: Plantronics Voyager 855 |
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| 22:19.11 | lindi- | Digital_Pioneer: does it work with your PC? |
| 22:19.19 | Digital_Pioneer | Yes. |
| 22:19.36 | lindi- | Digital_Pioneer: good, then you have a chance. my headset does not work with my PC either :) |
| 22:19.52 | Digital_Pioneer | Hmm. |
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| 22:59.33 | DocScrutinizer | Digital_Pioneer: you also noticed you have to execute a small helper program in addition to aslactl. to set sampling rate and format of mixer ADC |
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