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| 00:02.02 | b0ef | every time I plug in my freerunner, it seems to have a new mac address |
| 00:02.16 | shellevil | It's random |
| 00:02.35 | b0ef | pretty hard to make a udev rule, then..;) |
| 00:02.35 | CVirus | random mac address ?? |
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| 00:03.33 | b0ef | I also see this with a USB link cable |
| 00:03.53 | b0ef | I think maybe it's random on every such USB network thing |
| 00:03.59 | b0ef | though I don't understand why.. |
| 00:06.12 | b0ef | if you can't count on anything, how can you then make a rule? |
| 00:07.00 | CVirus | bluetooth pairing maybe ? |
| 00:07.05 | shellevil | I think it's possible to pass a MAC to the kernel module on the FR side. |
| 00:07.11 | shellevil | It's not done as far as I know. |
| 00:08.28 | CVirus | b0ef: write a python script that using pybluez that would scan for the presence of the FR's mac address and do what you want when it's around :-p |
| 00:08.40 | b0ef | right, but in the case of a USB ethernet device, this wouldn't work |
| 00:08.58 | b0ef | , because what if I insert 3 or 4 such cables |
| 00:09.18 | b0ef | if you can't identify a piece of hardware, you're fubar |
| 00:10.19 | CVirus | lulz |
| 00:10.52 | CVirus | b0ef: what does lsusb tell you when you plug in the FR ? |
| 00:11.11 | shellevil | stabs the USB standard specifiers. |
| 00:11.24 | shellevil | Serial numbers not being mandatory is _deeply_ annoying. |
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| 00:13.37 | b0ef | hmm, yeah, it does show an ID there, but is this id from the device? |
| 00:13.47 | b0ef | is it supposed to show up in udevinfo? |
| 00:14.05 | CVirus | I'm not sure to be honest .. I don't even own a FR |
| 00:14.35 | b0ef | right, thanks; I'll check it out |
| 00:15.19 | b0ef | btw, mine shows ID 1457:5122 |
| 00:15.21 | V45Purple | anyone else have an issue with connecting to WiFi? I've tried various distros (now on android) and I see my wireless networks, but it won't connect (WPA-PSK/AES). The AP(s) also seem to go in and out of visibility even though I'm 2 feet away from them. |
| 00:15.31 | b0ef | please, someone else, tell me you don't see the same..!;) |
| 00:16.23 | CVirus | b0ef: http://www.newlc.com/en/freerunner-mobile-which-support-android-cupcake |
| 00:16.27 | shellevil | 1457:5122 should be everyones GTA02 |
| 00:16.32 | CVirus | lsusb | grep "ID 1457:5122 First International Computer, Inc. OpenMoko Neo1973 kernel cdc_ether USB network" |
| 00:16.36 | CVirus | exactly |
| 00:18.10 | b0ef | right, so it's fixable with freerunner, but still leaves USB ethernet cables questionable |
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| 00:42.10 | b0ef | hmm, so these devices don't even really have mac addresses |
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| 03:02.48 | rooly | dave? |
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| 03:02.54 | rooly | apt: slap dave |
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| 03:04.21 | mwester | ~seen dave |
| 03:04.22 | apt | dave <n=dave@pool-138-89-1-87.mad.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 10d 1h 23m 7s ago, saying: 'hahaa'. |
| 03:04.34 | mwester | good bot. |
| 03:06.03 | rooly | aww |
| 03:06.05 | rooly | dave? |
| 03:06.07 | rooly | dave's not here |
| 03:06.10 | rooly | snickers |
| 03:06.15 | rooly | well |
| 03:06.21 | rooly | fine, i'll tell you mwester |
| 03:06.26 | rooly | http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/1192439607038137113ORJdhV |
| 03:06.36 | rooly | you know what the significance of that link is? |
| 03:07.02 | mwester | nope! |
| 03:07.11 | mwester | Do I dare open it? |
| 03:07.23 | rooly | yeah |
| 03:07.23 | ndnihil | the frame is duct taped together? |
| 03:07.34 | ndnihil | it's a tribute to the strength of duct tape |
| 03:07.39 | rooly | lol |
| 03:07.50 | rooly | mwester: its just a picture embedded in a flash app to keep from copying |
| 03:08.08 | mwester | :) |
| 03:08.17 | mwester | It's a lake. |
| 03:08.22 | rooly | with |
| 03:08.52 | rooly | sighs |
| 03:08.56 | rooly | fine |
| 03:08.58 | rooly | i'm buying a lake |
| 03:09.00 | rooly | yup |
| 03:09.04 | rooly | thats what i'm gonna do |
| 03:09.15 | mwester | Cool! Did they throw in the bike? |
| 03:09.20 | rooly | lmao |
| 03:09.22 | rooly | fsck you |
| 03:09.31 | mwester | Sorry, in a silly mood today. |
| 03:09.32 | rooly | fsck /dev/mwester |
| 03:09.57 | rooly | i always imagine that an fsck would tickle |
| 03:10.04 | mwester | What kind of bike is that? Can't read the logo, and I know nothing about bikes. |
| 03:10.10 | rooly | honda ct90 |
| 03:10.15 | rooly | 1967 specifically |
| 03:10.22 | rooly | the exact model and color i'm gonna buy |
| 03:10.56 | mwester | Ah - the cops will notice that color. |
| 03:11.05 | rooly | as far as being a transportation vehicle is concerned, its worthless |
| 03:11.25 | mwester | Looks kinda "scooter"-ish a bit. |
| 03:11.28 | rooly | its geared towards sunny afternoon riding by myself or with light 'baggage' if you know what i mean |
| 03:12.19 | rooly | mwester: its just one of those things... |
| 03:12.23 | mwester | :) yeah, don't pull up to the local biker bar with that... :D |
| 03:12.34 | rooly | the awesome cannot be comprehended by uisng the word awesome alone |
| 03:12.55 | mwester | I prefer the truck, to be honest. |
| 03:12.58 | ndnihil | will sell you a real motorcycle when you decide to upgrade |
| 03:13.03 | ndnihil | have two I need to get rid of |
| 03:13.25 | ndnihil | need to make room for more toys |
| 03:13.32 | rooly | 800$'s? |
| 03:13.43 | ndnihil | I'll let you have them both for $800 |
| 03:14.05 | rooly | oh? |
| 03:14.09 | rooly | crotch rockets? |
| 03:14.10 | ndnihil | one is a gs550e, the other a gs1100e |
| 03:14.12 | ndnihil | nope |
| 03:14.13 | rooly | i aint buyin that |
| 03:14.18 | rooly | a crotch rocket that is |
| 03:14.18 | ndnihil | not crotch rocket |
| 03:14.29 | rooly | tits or gtfo |
| 03:14.41 | rooly | (that means link me a picture) |
| 03:14.44 | ndnihil | heheh |
| 03:14.50 | ndnihil | hang on, I think I have one up |
| 03:15.17 | ndnihil | see pm |
| 03:15.19 | ndnihil | that's the 550 |
| 03:15.35 | ndnihil | don't have one up of the 1100, but it's the same year, just twice the displacement |
| 03:15.55 | ndnihil | both have been sitting un-ridden for a couple years and will need fresh fluids, tires, chain, carbs cleaned, etc.. |
| 03:16.14 | ndnihil | can't get a ural w/sidecar until I get rid of those |
| 03:17.23 | rooly | ... |
| 03:17.39 | rooly | i have a brother... |
| 03:17.46 | rooly | he sorta wants a bike |
| 03:18.12 | rooly | i mean, thats not nearly as awesome as my ct90 |
| 03:18.31 | rooly | but quite a bit more powerful |
| 03:19.08 | rooly | so your not shittin me when you say 800 |
| 03:20.40 | ndnihil | seriously, both for $800 |
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| 05:56.37 | beer_ | morning |
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| 07:09.14 | gorer | ok, and if the first opkg upgrade on a 2008.8 drops ssh and renders the device unconnectable from USB and no X to open? |
| 07:09.39 | ndnihil | opkg upgrade is broken |
| 07:09.44 | ndnihil | as you've recently discovered |
| 07:09.58 | ndnihil | flash a new image and avoid opkg upgrade :) |
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| 07:14.00 | gorer | ok, which one should I use for the most stable system nowadays? |
| 07:16.27 | ndnihil | shr testing is pretty decent |
| 07:16.39 | ndnihil | your momma |
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| 07:39.11 | DocScrutinizer | gorer: SHR or (allegedly) OM2009 |
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| 07:54.02 | blokkie | guys , when I got my neo , it came with a 8G sd-card. Where do I put that in the neo ? |
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| 08:00.53 | PaulFertser | blokkie: SD or uSD? |
| 08:01.38 | blokkie | not the micro sd , but the big one |
| 08:01.50 | blokkie | is that then SD or uSD ? |
| 08:02.20 | PaulFertser | blokkie: The big one you can put in your laptop or cardreader, no place for a big one inside the freerunner. |
| 08:03.27 | blokkie | PaulFertser: so the neo cannot take the card .. bummer :'( |
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| 08:04.40 | PaulFertser | blokkie: unless what you see is really a uSD<->SD adapter with uSD inserted. |
| 08:05.16 | blokkie | ah yes |
| 08:05.25 | blokkie | I can put the micro sd in the bigger one |
| 08:05.44 | blokkie | so I can update the neo via this slot ? |
| 08:06.45 | PaulFertser | blokkie: you have a uSD cardreader integrated in the freerunner. You can use it any way you like. |
| 08:07.03 | PaulFertser | blokkie: i use it for rootfs |
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| 09:02.00 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r2e58d83c395b 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/backend_manager.py: |
| 09:02.00 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: Revert "opimd: don't fail when default backend isn't specified. Use some, which supports specified domain." |
| 09:02.00 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: That isn't correct way to do this. |
| 09:02.00 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: This reverts commit a100a6b73023abb4ed385cf0e3615c1f303f6cc4. |
| 09:02.01 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r6d56c641ddd9 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sqlite_contacts.py: opimd: fix custom fields handling in SQLite-Contacts backend |
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| 10:10.40 | DocScrutinizer | [SHR] GPS TimeToFirstFix 85sec indoor. quite decent |
| 10:12.30 | md2k7 | DocScrutinizer: are we finally using the "A" of AGPS? |
| 10:12.54 | DocScrutinizer | sure, partially |
| 10:12.57 | md2k7 | (like, saving the last position for faster fix, and telling it to the chipset) |
| 10:13.01 | md2k7 | nice |
| 10:13.11 | DocScrutinizer | exactly this part |
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| 10:17.59 | bruce_c | I noticed that a few days ago: the GPS time comes up really quickly now, and it sees the satellites a lot faster too |
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| 10:26.11 | DocScrutinizer | bruce_c: there's a lot of fake in there - time is shown from beginning, eventually it switches from local system time to actual sat time unnoticed; number of "seen" sats is the theoretical number from "A", the "used" ones are the relevant data. lon/lat same. in the end the "fix: 2D" is the only interesting thing |
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| 12:25.36 | TeLLuS | Googlemail? |
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| 13:29.16 | roby | hi |
| 13:29.44 | roby | someone tried the new Zenity package on opkg.org? |
| 13:40.24 | roby | I made the package so if someone could test it i'm here to correct problems.. |
| 13:48.00 | roby | what kind of password is needed to enter the openmoko-devel channel? |
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| 13:49.08 | shellevil | that's a channel only available to those that've signed NDAs |
| 13:49.17 | shellevil | openmoko-cdevel is the community development channel |
| 13:50.04 | roby | ok thanks |
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| 16:38.16 | PaulFertser | jc: Hey :) can i ask you a question about OM ML policies? |
| 16:38.41 | jc | PaulFertser: yes. |
| 16:39.55 | PaulFertser | jc: It seems that some sane mailing lists (LKML e.g.) accept postings from unsubscribed users and it makes perfect sense if one considers ML usage scenarious. |
| 16:41.02 | jc | PaulFertser: what does that mean? not quite get this one. |
| 16:41.34 | PaulFertser | jc: that means that imho OM mailing lists should accept postings from unsubscribed users too. |
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| 16:42.44 | jc | PaulFertser: but, if someone is not subscribing a mail list, what good for posting one? |
| 16:43.02 | shellevil | read online web archives |
| 16:43.49 | PaulFertser | jc: He'll be Cc'd on replies anyway. And yes, he can access that ML via web archives/NNTP/another account/whatever. Moreover you might want to bring somebody (consider upstream maintainer) for occasional conversation on list. |
| 16:45.35 | jc | PaulFertser: yes, you are right. but this also sounds like open a door for spammer. |
| 16:46.07 | PaulFertser | jc: I'm yet to find a single spam mail with "Received-SPF: pass" in my spam folder. |
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| 16:46.49 | PaulFertser | jc: and LKML gives you a perfect example that if the list is properly configured, it won't have too much spam. |
| 16:46.54 | jc | PaulFertser: I could change the policy for one list to see how things going. |
| 16:48.00 | PaulFertser | jc: it'd be nice to try imho, provided you implement proper anti-spam measures beforehand... |
| 16:48.18 | jc | PaulFertser: I, myself, also like this unsuscribe posting thing. |
| 16:48.37 | PaulFertser | jc: that's nice to hear :) |
| 16:49.04 | jc | PaulFertser: give me a little bit of time of this. |
| 16:49.14 | PaulFertser | jc: i guess it should be enabled at least for those users who's using sensible mail server that pass strict SPF checking. |
| 16:49.36 | PaulFertser | jc: sure, I'm very glad you liked the idea. Thanks a lot for considering implementing it :) |
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| 16:50.30 | jc | PaulFertser: what list do you subscribe? |
| 16:50.51 | jc | PaulFertser: I could start from that one. |
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| 16:51.23 | PaulFertser | jc: I'm subscribed to at least OM kernel, devel, hardware, community. |
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| 16:52.11 | jc | PaulFertser: ok, I will start from devel first. not now, but once I finish the study of this. |
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| 16:53.28 | jc | PaulFertser: may I also have a question? :P |
| 16:53.52 | jc | PaulFertser: how do you find out I am in charge of that? |
| 16:54.17 | shellevil | He's got ninjas. |
| 16:54.24 | shellevil | :) |
| 16:55.18 | jc | shellevil: ninjas? |
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| 16:56.08 | jc | shellevil: those guys were black clothes from Japan? |
| 16:56.21 | jc | shellevil: *wear* |
| 16:56.23 | badcloud | I think the correct term is ninjas |
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| 16:59.16 | badcloud | but what were you guys talking about? |
| 17:01.02 | CVirus | who said Ninjas wear black ? |
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| 17:03.04 | PaulFertser | jc: Joerg told me :) |
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| 17:03.49 | jc | PaulFertser: ha.:) |
| 17:04.26 | badcloud | hmmm, CVirus... I'm not sure |
| 17:07.46 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-terminal * r5d14c542cfa3 10/ (.gitignore autogen.sh configure.ac): use standard autogen.sh; check for vala version |
| 17:08.30 | mwester | prefers elderly barbarians over ninjas. |
| 17:09.08 | shellevil | pratchett++ |
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| 17:12.52 | jorn | anyone with a working navit.xml file? |
| 17:12.59 | jorn | please mail it to me |
| 17:13.38 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * r0844f3eda298 10/ (.gitignore Makefile.am configure.ac src/obj.vala): remove warnings, check vala version |
| 17:16.56 | DocScrutinizer2 | hmm, bip is back, but now FR-GPRS borked... |
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| 17:17.35 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710 * r3bb80ba6cc9f 10/README: readme++ |
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| 17:20.02 | jc | DocScrutinizer: morning. |
| 17:20.11 | DocScrutinizer | hi jc |
| 17:23.21 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: yep, sorry for that. bip got itself into some loop and gdb on that host seems to be broken, so i just restarted it... |
| 17:24.08 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: thanks anyway for taking care :) |
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| 17:41.07 | PierreN | using shr testing i just received a text message, and clicked on "Close". But now when IÂ go to the Message application, I can't see the text message, and Contact application is crashing |
| 17:42.50 | PierreN | is it a known bug ? i can't see a corresponding ticket in trag |
| 17:42.53 | PierreN | traq |
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| 18:03.06 | PierreN | i need to reboot to solve the issue |
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| 18:21.32 | Digital_Pioneer | So, anyone around familiar enough with the bluetooth system to help me set up BT/GSM? |
| 18:22.00 | ndnihil | what does one have to do with the other? |
| 18:22.07 | ndnihil | tethering it? |
| 18:22.34 | Digital_Pioneer | Uhh, you make GSM calls with a bluetooth headset. |
| 18:23.13 | ndnihil | oh, just a headset |
| 18:23.13 | ndnihil | I tried that, and it failed |
| 18:23.13 | Digital_Pioneer | Hahahah, of course it did. |
| 18:23.13 | ndnihil | :) |
| 18:23.13 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: I think shoragan wrote the support, it'd be best if he could help you. I remember you failed last time you tried because frameworkd didn't receive headset presence signal from bluetoothd or smth like that... |
| 18:23.23 | Digital_Pioneer | It's not going to "just work". You have to fight to the death!!11!!eleven |
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| 18:23.45 | Digital_Pioneer | PaulFertser: Something like that, yeah. I think. |
| 18:24.01 | ndnihil | pretty sure my frameworkd was too old |
| 18:24.05 | ndnihil | shr testing |
| 18:24.50 | Digital_Pioneer | pokes shoragan. |
| 18:26.48 | gustavold | I've installed SHR. Is there a graphical application to configure wifi (choose network, supply password, etc.)? |
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| 18:28.17 | PaulFertser | gustavold: there's some work ongoing. I'd suggest you use vim for the time being, unless you're going to help development of that gui app. |
| 18:28.43 | gustavold | PaulFertser: ok, thanks |
| 18:29.55 | PaulFertser | gustavold: wifi works ok with most APs, just give wpa_supplicant a proper config. |
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| 18:30.42 | PaulFertser | alephnull: are you a fan of ZFC? |
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| 18:31.08 | gustavold | PaulFertser: just to know, who is these guys developing this gui app? Maybe I can give a help |
| 18:31.20 | Digital_Pioneer | Sound during calls is dead. Anything I can reload to make it start working again? |
| 18:31.59 | alephnull | PaulFertser: Zermelo-Frankel with Axiom of choice ? |
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| 18:32.39 | PaulFertser | gustavold: dos1 at #openmoko-cdevel did some work lately. Check git.shr-project.org See http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-settings.git;a=commit;h=f94ee9084ea289c29ac6b684b745c3d68cb07242 |
| 18:32.39 | Digital_Pioneer | Hmm, manually loading gsmhandset.state turns it on, so maybe I screwed up my rules.yaml... |
| 18:32.44 | PaulFertser | alephnull: yep :) |
| 18:32.57 | PaulFertser | alephnull: your nick always makes me think of set theory. |
| 18:33.58 | alephnull | PaulFertser: Ah. Me too :) |
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| 18:39.20 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * r08261d574acb 10/ (Makefile.am gsm0710mux-1.0.deps): add gsm0710mux-1.0.deps |
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| 18:50.23 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: i look at the code and i see self.monitor = gobject.timeout_add_seconds( 10, self._handleMonitorTimeout ) and in _handleMonitorTimeout it tries to establish bluetooth connection to the headset. Should work... |
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| 18:53.52 | PaulFertser | gustavold: so, have you tried experimental wifi manager from playground? |
| 18:54.17 | gustavold | PaulFertser: I'm downloading it |
| 18:54.44 | PaulFertser | gustavold: it depends on connman btw. |
| 18:56.04 | mwester-laptop | notes that using the connman test CLI seems to work with the latest andy-tracking kernels. |
| 18:58.57 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * rca6ff8b9e0e0 10/ (Makefile.am gsm0710mux-1.0.pc.in): fix header location and add necessary require entry in .pc |
| 18:59.28 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * r53edb9c9af54 10/ (Makefile.am configure.ac src/main.vala): catch up with vala 0.7.x |
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| 19:07.21 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * re24a6abb8069 10/ (.gitignore Makefile.am): do not let vala compile, just generate C files |
| 19:08.19 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * re7538c53ef3e 10/Makefile.am: do not let vala compile; just generate C files |
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| 19:24.15 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4535efb1caed 10/libfsotransport/ (5 files in 3 dirs): fsotransport: catch up with vala 0.7.x |
| 19:24.16 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2bee14d692eb 10/libfsoframework/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: catch up with vala 0.7.x |
| 19:24.17 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r8c19b6464481 10/libfsoframework/ (6 files in 3 dirs): fsoframework: catch up with vala 0.7.x; fix header path |
| 19:24.19 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r0917aead424f 10/fsodeviced/ (7 files in 6 dirs): fsodevice: catch up with vala 0.7.x |
| 19:24.22 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re1ba5ce4be30 10/fsogsmd/ (9 files in 7 dirs): fsogsm: catch up with vala 0.7.x |
| 19:25.01 | bove | I just thought of something - what about using modifier buttons (Aux and power button) for "hover" and right click? Can that be easely configured with illume? |
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| 19:37.36 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r111247b229c1 10/ (14 files in 8 dirs): catch up with Vala 0.7.x |
| 19:41.18 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-term * re0d92222e3e5 10/Makefile.am: catch up with vala 0.7.x |
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| 19:51.15 | CoreDump|home | could anyone recommend me a kernel / rootfs combination for my Neo1973 GTA01 where bluetooth and GPS are working? |
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| 20:08.54 | mwester-laptop | Oh good grief! ;-) Give the poor devs a little time; it's only been, um,... well... |
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| 20:09.02 | mwester-laptop | um.... |
| 20:09.51 | mwester-laptop | Yeah. Well. No, Openmoko has NOTHING for the gta01. Community can do a bit better - try the SHR distro. GPS should work (after you install gllin,the binary blob). |
| 20:10.02 | mwester-laptop | Bluetooth is questionable. |
| 20:11.06 | PaulFertser | mwester-laptop: i thought bluetooth on gta01 is connected the same way it's done on gta02, no? Bluetooth headsets are still wip even for FR, no real difference here. |
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| 20:11.44 | mwester-laptop | Right, hence "questionable" -- as in, CoreDump|home can make it work, but there's no gui or such. |
| 20:11.57 | PaulFertser | mwester-laptop: yes, some differences in wolfson driver exist but it's not a bluetooth problem and it can be fairly quickly fixed given some gta01 owner needs it. |
| 20:12.09 | mwester-laptop | Alsa state files? |
| 20:12.15 | mwester-laptop | (that's black magic to me) |
| 20:13.15 | PaulFertser | mwester-laptop: not only that. For some unknown reason gta01 wolfson driver is a bit different too, with some spurious "neo mode". My experience proves that it won't take much time for a person to get this part of the system to work, including creating a suitable state-file. |
| 20:13.46 | mwester-laptop | PaulFertser: should that be fixed in the kernel, or is that just because the gta01 uses such an old kernel? |
| 20:13.47 | PaulFertser | For a person who wants to read/understand code, of course. Not for an ordinary "end-users". |
| 20:15.40 | PaulFertser | mwester-laptop: driver in the old kernel should be ok too. I don't know the state of support in the new kernel, community lacks gta01 owners who want to do anything (except Tim, but he's not very active recently). |
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| 20:18.24 | gustavold | what means these "unsatisfied recommendation for" messages from opkg? |
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| 20:21.45 | mwester-laptop | it means that the package you are installing is usually used or often requires additional packages, which opkg cannot install for some reason. |
| 20:22.19 | Digital_Pioneer | Hello, world. |
| 20:22.35 | dent | mwester-laptop: opkg installs recommended pkgs automatically? I thought one has to set them up manually. |
| 20:22.45 | dent | I mean, ask opkg to install them explicitly |
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| 20:28.24 | CoreDump|home | mwester-laptop: heh, thanks. I'll check out SHR |
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| 20:32.17 | badcloud | I'm trying to make desktop files for silent and default phone profiles |
| 20:32.28 | badcloud | anyone know the exec command? |
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| 20:50.46 | Toaster`|away | badcloud: it's an mdbus command using org.freesmartphone.Preferences.SetProfile |
| 20:50.57 | badcloud | thanks |
| 20:51.05 | Toaster`|cooking | badcloud: what distro are you using? |
| 20:51.05 | badcloud | what you cookin', Toaster? |
| 20:51.07 | badcloud | shr |
| 20:51.37 | Toaster`|cooking | SHR-settings can handle all that if you don't mind 3 clicks instead of 1 |
| 20:51.50 | Toaster`|cooking | bread and soup |
| 20:52.14 | badcloud | well, I like leaving the settings running, but sometimes it goes dead |
| 20:52.24 | badcloud | 3 clicks isn't that bad |
| 20:52.39 | Toaster`|cooking | Really? Any particular module? |
| 20:53.17 | badcloud | power |
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| 20:53.33 | badcloud | which means I need to rerun the settings |
| 20:54.29 | Toaster`|cooking | Anything in top? ie, is it sucking up resources, or just forgeting to respond? |
| 20:55.11 | CoreDump|cf-18 | anybody got a working gllin for the SHR distro? The current one (1.1) appears to be broken |
| 20:55.34 | Toaster`|cooking | badcloud: And how long does it take before things go all wonky? |
| 20:55.50 | badcloud | hmmm, good quest |
| 20:55.58 | badcloud | might be after suspend |
| 20:56.02 | badcloud | but I'm not sure |
| 20:56.08 | badcloud | I'll test some more |
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| 20:58.04 | PaulFertser | CoreDump|cf-18: how exactly is it broken? |
| 20:58.39 | CoreDump|cf-18 | gllin: early exit(3) in halInit()/681 |
| 20:58.49 | CoreDump|cf-18 | doesn't start |
| 20:59.44 | CoreDump|cf-18 | tries the 1.0 version |
| 21:00.08 | PaulFertser | CoreDump|cf-18: looks like you don't have GPS chip powered. |
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| 21:02.49 | CoreDump|cf-18 | PaulFertser: hmm I was under the impression that the gllin script would take care of that |
| 21:03.27 | PaulFertser | CoreDump|cf-18: double check that then. And check that sysfs nodes it tries to access actually exist. |
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| 21:04.59 | CoreDump|cf-18 | PaulFertser: the 1.0 version works after I added the fic-gta01 arch to opkg |
| 21:05.30 | CoreDump|cf-18 | I guess 1.1 suffers from the sysfs issue mentioned by mickey|away |
| 21:06.14 | PaulFertser | CoreDump|cf-18: script can't suffer sysfs issue as it's easily tweakable. |
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| 22:59.52 | thrashold | Is alarm possible on GTA01 or GTA02 hardware? |
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| 23:01.04 | thrashold | As in, wake the phone from suspend to sound the alarm, somehow? The alarm in SHR doesn't do so. |
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| 23:04.17 | thrashold | In what mode is the GTA01 CPU during suspend? Slow mode? I'm looking at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_GTA01_Power_Management the table here |
| 23:04.42 | thrashold | Ah, poweroff, sorry for asking before reading. :) |
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| 23:33.16 | jpwdsm | I've been using #Om2009 for a week or so, but now whenever I get a new text it wakes up from suspend but doesn't get the text |
| 23:36.23 | rooly | jpwdsm: you'll need to sorta 'force' it |
| 23:36.39 | rooly | send yourself an sms, it should download any new ones |
| 23:37.25 | jpwdsm | rooly trying now |
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| 23:57.25 | jpwdsm | rooly I didn't receive the one I sent to myself |
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| 23:58.53 | droger | hello all. Just a quick question: the modem on the Freerunner is not Edge, right? What's the top data transfer speed I can theoretically achieve with it? |