| 00:00.00 | KungFuJesus | or the full urls don't seem to resolve, anyway |
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| 00:17.09 | KungFuJesus | yep, enlightenment segfaulted |
| 00:17.10 | KungFuJesus | awesome |
| 00:18.02 | KungFuJesus | I'm done with kustomizer, what a piece of garbage |
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| 00:26.42 | KungFuJesus | gah, I'm about to install SHR, anything I should know. The instructions are kinda crappy in the wiki |
| 00:27.21 | KungFuJesus | do I need to grab the "modules" tarball? Or will everything already be in the kernel image? |
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| 00:27.43 | mmontour | you don't need the modules tarball |
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| 00:32.58 | KungFuJesus | I'll have to mess with this later. *sigh* I wish these "super cool fixing scripts" that kustomizer provided actually worked |
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| 00:38.21 | KungFuJesus | mmontour: in your opinion, how is SHR testing? |
| 00:39.08 | mmontour | Dunno, I haven't looked at it recently. |
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| 01:25.08 | slaxxer | shr testing has far fewer bugs |
| 01:25.17 | rooly1 | too bad |
| 01:25.30 | slaxxer | i like fso-unstable |
| 01:25.57 | slaxxer | Qte-improved works foe u rooly? |
| 01:26.02 | rooly1 | nope |
| 01:26.11 | slaxxer | what is it now |
| 01:26.25 | rooly1 | haven't touched my FR in 2 weeks |
| 01:26.32 | rooly1 | been rather otherwise occupied |
| 01:26.39 | slaxxer | killer |
| 01:26.51 | rooly1 | no, i am not homocidal |
| 01:27.08 | slaxxer | im gardening |
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| 01:34.43 | KungFuJesus | 9~why is it none of the packages I seem to find abundantly on the wiki ever actually install or even exist when I want them to? |
| 01:36.36 | KungFuJesus | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:54.03 | slaxxer | i found more of them to install on fso than anything else |
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| 04:23.13 | slaxxer | raster what u do with dave? |
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| 06:50.28 | methril|work | good morning |
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| 10:47.25 | DrRabbit | I don't talk here often enough |
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| 10:49.35 | PierreN | hi |
| 10:50.30 | PierreN | just installed Qi on my fr, but i can't boot... downloaded qi here http://people.openmoko.org/andy/qi-s3c2442-master-hist_3b8513d8b3d9615e.udfu and uploaded with dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-s3c2442-master-hist_3b8513d8b3d9615e.udfu |
| 10:51.57 | PierreN | i pressed power button one time, then it vibrated, and then i pushed AUX button (did'nt do it on purpose). now i can't boot (pressing power buttion don't boot) |
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| 10:52.09 | PierreN | i tried to remove battery, that didn't help |
| 10:52.54 | PierreN | and i can't get the DFUÂ mode (pressing AUX+Power does nothing) to reinstall u-boot... any idea please ? |
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| 11:08.10 | PaulFertser | PierreN: reread the Qi wiki page? |
| 11:08.23 | PaulFertser | PierreN: because you obviously don't understand how it is supposed to work. |
| 11:09.08 | PaulFertser | PierreN: and don't forget: Qi _is_ cool, one just needs to use it properly. |
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| 14:52.03 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r9c746079d020 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py: ogsmd: secure sending the first line of multiline messages against errors. This should improve #332 |
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| 14:56.05 | Digital_Pioneer | PaulFertser: Bricking your phone by pressing AUX after turning it on is a known issue? :P (Just re-reading the logs, and that's what it looks like happened) |
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| 15:48.03 | PierreN | with enlightenment installed, i switched from illume to asu theme. how to go back to illume theme please ? |
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| 15:48.30 | PierreN | in config dialog box, i can't get the theme setting dialog box... |
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| 18:49.19 | allagator | PierreN: ping |
| 18:50.09 | PierreN | what ? |
| 18:50.42 | PierreN | ping www.theme.org ? |
| 18:51.26 | allagator | still having qi issues? |
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| 18:53.20 | PierreN | allagator: well no i could solve it (had to remove battery, press AUX, then put battery, press POWER, unpush AUX to start it) |
| 18:53.53 | allagator | thats good |
| 18:54.34 | PierreN | and do you have an idea for my theme problem please ? :-) |
| 18:55.35 | allagator | ASU > SHR ? |
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| 18:56.45 | PierreN | what ? well i had normal illume theme but switched to ASU theme, but can't go back to original theme because ASU theme is buggy with E |
| 18:57.21 | allagator | oh i see |
| 18:58.29 | allagator | been looking around ~/.e/* |
| 18:58.52 | allagator | worse case senario just rm .e/* -r |
| 18:59.03 | allagator | and restart x |
| 18:59.06 | PierreN | will it "respawn"Â ? |
| 18:59.19 | allagator | defaults like when you first flashed/booted |
| 18:59.38 | allagator | make a bakup in case |
| 18:59.51 | allagator | mv .e/ .e_bkup |
| 19:02.48 | PierreN | yep it worked |
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| 19:02.56 | PierreN | drastic solution ^^ |
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| 19:07.16 | allagator | i wonder if you can save a current setup as a theme |
| 19:07.26 | allagator | so it would be easier to swap |
| 19:08.04 | allagator | i bet i know who really knows whats going on <cough> raster </cough> |
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| 19:32.00 | PierreN | well you do a cp .e .e.sav |
| 19:32.04 | PierreN | to save a theme |
| 19:32.13 | PierreN | thene mv .e.sav .e |
| 19:32.18 | PierreN | to restore it ^^ |
| 19:32.26 | PierreN | then* |
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| 19:54.20 | Tanuva | damn. he nearly fooled me |
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| 20:05.45 | PierreN | during some calls, i can't hear anything / the other person doesn't hear anything |
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| 20:06.29 | PierreN | just to be sure, in alsamixer, what are the names of the Mic and the Speaker _during a call_ please ? |
| 20:06.57 | shellevil | That's not a very good haiku. |
| 20:07.18 | shellevil | More seriously - why - buzzing? |
| 20:07.31 | PierreN | what ? |
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| 20:08.40 | PierreN | hum sorry i'm a non nativ speaker (does it seem so obvious ? ;) |
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| 20:09.25 | PierreN | well my poem meant, that what are the names of the alsa controller of the Mic and the speaker during a call ? |
| 20:12.21 | Fale | are there some QtEI guys? |
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| 20:13.15 | shellevil | PierreN: sorry - the mixer is _horribly_ complex - I don't know. |
| 20:13.35 | shellevil | PierreN: they simply cannot hear anything - or they hear buzzing? |
| 20:14.25 | PierreN | they hear _anything_ |
| 20:14.28 | PierreN | not a buzz |
| 20:14.38 | PierreN | _nothing_ |
| 20:14.39 | PierreN | * |
| 20:14.40 | Fale | I have putted |
| 20:15.14 | Fale | echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf and echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf. but DNS seems not to work :( how can I solve? |
| 20:17.07 | PaulFertser | PierreN: wiki page Neo1973_Sound_System has a nice diagram with all alsa control names printed over it. |
| 20:17.38 | shellevil | PierreN: what distribution are you running? |
| 20:17.47 | PaulFertser | (or probably Subsystem, i don't remember exactly) |
| 20:18.14 | PierreN | shellevil: OM2008.12 |
| 20:18.25 | PierreN | PaulFertser: it's the same for the fr , |
| 20:18.26 | PierreN | ? |
| 20:18.40 | PaulFertser | PierreN: The page is actually describing mostly fr. |
| 20:19.29 | PaulFertser | PierreN: btw, in case you somehow don't know it yet, OM2008.12 has no future (nobody is really going to support this development line). |
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| 20:21.25 | PierreN | PaulFertser: yeah i know |
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| 20:30.45 | gigo | what is the distro that comes in neofreerunner by default? |
| 20:31.23 | PaulFertser | gigo: it was/is OM2007 |
| 20:31.51 | gigo | do most of you use the default OS that comes with it or you guys install your own favorite os on it? |
| 20:32.12 | PaulFertser | gigo: nobody uses om2007 |
| 20:32.19 | PaulFertser | gigo: or almost nobody ;) |
| 20:32.22 | gigo | then, what do you use? |
| 20:33.15 | gigo | PaulFertser, ^ |
| 20:33.18 | PaulFertser | gigo: SHR testing, OM2009 unstable (with Paroli as default UI), Debian, Gentoo, some use Qt Extended Improved even. |
| 20:33.38 | PaulFertser | gigo: some are still using a Qtopia bastard called OM2008.x aka ASU. |
| 20:33.42 | gigo | doesn't it take Debian a long time to boot on OpenMoko ? |
| 20:33.53 | gigo | ASU is april software update? |
| 20:34.17 | PaulFertser | gigo: i don't boot my phone too often, haven't measured the time but it's less than 5 minutes. |
| 20:34.33 | Q-Master | uses android for now |
| 20:34.37 | DocScrutinizer | april, august, autumn... whatever |
| 20:34.37 | PaulFertser | gigo: yes, ASU is what OM got after porting Qtopia to X. |
| 20:34.38 | gigo | oh 5 minutes is too much. I was expecting it to be 1 minute or so. |
| 20:34.56 | PaulFertser | gigo: 1 minute is less than 5 minutes too ;) |
| 20:35.02 | gigo | ok |
| 20:35.33 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: have you seen "Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter. And spring"? |
| 20:36.15 | DocScrutinizer | nope |
| 20:36.46 | PaulFertser | gigo: also some use Hackable:1 (that's OM2007 fixed a little, based on Debian) and Pyneo. |
| 20:37.05 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: again, thanks for the C and R you sent lindi, now we both have the buzz fixed (or at least the components in the phone :). |
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| 20:37.30 | DocScrutinizer | huh, no real fix??? |
| 20:37.33 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: weird film about buddhist monk. |
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| 20:39.13 | PierreN | is it possible to format the SDÂ card with the fr, when i run on OM2008.12 on NANDÂ ? |
| 20:39.30 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: the buzz is away :) |
| 20:39.39 | PaulFertser | PierreN: sure, why not. |
| 20:39.49 | PaulFertser | PierreN: well, it depends on what you call "format". |
| 20:39.50 | DocScrutinizer | pfffffh, you know how to scare me |
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| 20:41.34 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: :) |
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| 20:42.39 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: are there any special changes to alsa statefiles required? |
| 20:43.11 | DocScrutinizer | switch up control48 by 1 |
| 20:43.34 | DocScrutinizer | not striktly needed, but recommended |
| 20:43.56 | rhkfin | what for? |
| 20:44.10 | PierreN | PaulFertser: well partitions are divided in /dev/mtdblockX... but : how to merge them ? |
| 20:44.24 | PaulFertser | PierreN: mtdblock* is NAND |
| 20:44.32 | PierreN | ow |
| 20:44.34 | DocScrutinizer | compensate the mic sensitivity loss of 6dB caused by buzzfix |
| 20:44.49 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: ok, nice. |
| 20:44.53 | PierreN | should'nt erase that one |
| 20:45.28 | PaulFertser | PierreN: mmcblk0 |
| 20:45.28 | PierreN | PaulFertser: but why "/dev/mmcblk0p1 7.4M 13.0k 7.0M 0% /media/card |
| 20:45.42 | PierreN | ah ok |
| 20:46.04 | PaulFertser | PierreN: just fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 and do what you want. |
| 20:46.30 | PaulFertser | PierreN: while partitioning take into account your use-cases and limitations (if any) of the bootloader you use. |
| 20:47.23 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin: also check your control63, it should be "mic 2" |
| 20:48.51 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: I suppose these are alsa state files for a7? Could maybe be released somewhere for others, too |
| 20:49.06 | PierreN | PaulFertser: ok thanks |
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| 20:50.58 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin: these are for all Neo. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new |
| 20:51.54 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: ok, great, thanks |
| 20:51.58 | DocScrutinizer | except for the small diference in controll48, statefiles shouldn't differ between revisions of hw |
| 20:53.09 | DocScrutinizer | please DON'T bother about the matt-hsu attachment same place. It is messing/mixing up echo and alsa-state once again. You should ignore this file |
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| 20:53.48 | rhkfin | ok :) |
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| 20:59.40 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin: many gsmhandset.state ship with control63="right PGA". This might or may not work, basically it's wrong. But you might need to adjust all controls for mic when switching 63 from rPGA to mic2 |
| 21:00.35 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Alsamixer_channel_controls |
| 21:00.50 | DocScrutinizer | State: GSM <-> Built-in Handset (file gsmhandset.state) |
| 21:01.01 | rhkfin | thinks it's complicated :) |
| 21:01.05 | DocScrutinizer | Mic volume: |
| 21:01.26 | rhkfin | But I'll save your tips and will come back to these later :) |
| 21:01.48 | DocScrutinizer | huh, see wiki, addr mentioned above. What's difficult there? |
| 21:02.15 | rhkfin | Too many controls to understand what's happening. But following your instructions is ok & no problem :) |
| 21:03.27 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Alsamixer_channel_controls just mentioning 6 controls, 4 for mic, 2 for earpiece... |
| 21:03.44 | DocScrutinizer | so what's complicated or "too many controls" there? |
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| 21:04.27 | rhkfin | Hmm.. ok, it's not too bad :) |
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| 21:06.43 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin: admittedly there's a few DAPMs not metioned there because they are switches mandatory for gsmhandset operation and have always been correct. So you don't need to bother when tuning an existing gsmhandset.state |
| 21:07.41 | rhkfin | ok, great, thanks .) |
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| 22:40.06 | Blu3 | i really should install one of the cell site database packages |
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| 22:42.34 | CIA-45 | freesmartphone.org: elm.vapi: add global scale_set and scale_get |
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