| 00:00.13 | PierreN | http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/shr-testing/ you meant ? |
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| 00:00.23 | PierreN | people.openmoko.org/home/joerg/public_html/shr-testing not found ^^ |
| 00:00.45 | DocScrutinizer | ahh, sorry. yes of course |
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| 00:01.11 | PierreN | ok so |
| 00:01.54 | PierreN | kernel http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/shr-testing/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin ; jffs2 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 ; u-boot : normal one (no qi) |
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| 00:02.30 | DocScrutinizer | huh? |
| 00:02.59 | DocScrutinizer | that's been a question? |
| 00:03.17 | PierreN | well just an affirmation |
| 00:03.32 | frankS2 | hmmmmmmmm im reading about the app "cellhunter" but i dont understand what it does.... |
| 00:03.37 | frankS2 | anyone here care to explain for me? |
| 00:04.13 | DocScrutinizer | well I dunno if http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 is the one I downloaded a few days ago. preferrably use the one from my people drawer. uploading ATM |
| 00:04.45 | DocScrutinizer | frankS2: locating gsm-basestations |
| 00:05.00 | DocScrutinizer | and uploading to a central database |
| 00:05.03 | frankS2 | ok |
| 00:05.55 | PierreN | DocScrutinizer: you're uploading a good one ? |
| 00:06.00 | DocScrutinizer | PierreN: ETA for shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 upload +1h |
| 00:06.08 | PierreN | ok thanks :-) |
| 00:06.23 | PierreN | will try the other one while waiting |
| 00:06.36 | DocScrutinizer | this is the kernel/rootfs combo that "works for me" here |
| 00:08.36 | DocScrutinizer | PierreN: version of Apr 17 |
| 00:08.40 | PierreN | ok |
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| 00:31.20 | mwester | FAQ: I upgraded/reflashed (or changed bootloaders) and now my network interface on usb0 is gone! |
| 00:31.45 | mwester | Answer: See if your network interface is now eth1 or eth2 or eth3... |
| 00:33.36 | PierreN | DocScrutinizer: i tried your kernel and the jffs2 from the other website and now can ssh through it thanks |
| 00:33.52 | PierreN | although still can't connect to internet on the fr :s |
| 00:35.36 | DocScrutinizer | if you can ssh in, you also can ping out, as soon as you set up your desktop box correctly |
| 00:36.54 | PierreN | yeah but i don't get how to set up my desktop correctly :s |
| 00:37.41 | PierreN | also in shr if i decided to not to show apps in "desktop" at first startup how to then add them to desktop please ? |
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| 01:01.41 | DocScrutinizer | good question |
| 01:02.27 | PierreN | /usr/share/applications as fas as i got it |
| 01:02.33 | PierreN | far as* |
| 01:02.37 | PierreN | ? |
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| 01:30.11 | Turtle_ | which carriers support the openmoko? |
| 01:31.03 | shellevil | none |
| 01:31.08 | Turtle_ | lol |
| 01:31.11 | shellevil | any GSM carrier will work |
| 01:31.15 | Turtle_ | is it possible? |
| 01:31.23 | Turtle_ | is Verizon Gsm? |
| 01:31.40 | shellevil | there is a carriers page on the wiki - search on t-mobile on the wiki maybe |
| 01:31.44 | shellevil | dunno |
| 01:31.50 | mwester | No |
| 01:31.54 | Turtle_ | do you use one? |
| 01:31.56 | Turtle_ | ok |
| 01:32.02 | shellevil | is in UK |
| 01:32.18 | Turtle_ | are there any Linux phones for Verizon? |
| 01:32.36 | mwester | None of which I'm aware. |
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| 01:37.11 | Turtle_ | the G1 might have a one-up on openmoko |
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| 01:44.52 | PierreN | just playing with shr and so... and wondering : is it possible to run a bash script when a gsm event occur (i mean launch ring.sh instead of ringing when i receive a call) please ? |
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| 01:46.54 | DocScrutinizer | it's a question for mickey|zzZZzz. I already asked for it some time ago |
| 01:47.22 | PierreN | ok |
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| 01:48.22 | DocScrutinizer | please open a ticket at trac.fso.org |
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| 01:49.59 | PierreN | fso ? it's not up to shr developer ? |
| 01:51.37 | PierreN | (i'm just trying to get an idea about who is doing what in the -not so obvious- world of open moko and others...) |
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| 02:14.33 | DocScrutinizer | nah, kicking off a ringtone *should* be managed by fso framework, not by any shr-app directly |
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| 03:23.13 | PierreN | i'm trying to make the wifi work with shr |
| 03:23.16 | PierreN | but |
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| 03:23.31 | PierreN | root@om-gta02 /usr/share/applications $ ifconfig eth0 |
| 03:23.31 | PierreN | ifconfig: eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found |
| 03:23.31 | PierreN | root@om-gta02 /usr/share/applications $ iwlist eth0 scan |
| 03:23.31 | PierreN | eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 03:23.37 | PierreN | hu ? |
| 03:26.35 | slaxxer | did u reboot om 1 time? |
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| 05:21.12 | andrew2325 | anyone got any ideas as to why i can't get my openmoko to wget something? |
| 05:21.16 | andrew2325 | new install |
| 05:21.24 | andrew2325 | obviously missed a step in networking |
| 05:21.24 | rooly | can it ping? |
| 05:21.31 | andrew2325 | probably not |
| 05:21.35 | rooly | try |
| 05:21.40 | rooly | if it can ping, it can wget |
| 05:21.41 | andrew2325 | give me a minute |
| 05:21.44 | rooly | no |
| 05:21.45 | rooly | do it now |
| 05:21.47 | rooly | damnit |
| 05:21.59 | andrew2325 | okay, so if it won't ping |
| 05:22.14 | andrew2325 | i did exactly what the wiki said |
| 05:22.25 | rooly | can you log into it |
| 05:22.27 | mwester | did it work before? and what distro? |
| 05:22.29 | andrew2325 | yea |
| 05:22.38 | rooly | windows or linux |
| 05:22.42 | andrew2325 | linux |
| 05:22.47 | rooly | phone distro |
| 05:22.56 | andrew2325 | 2008.12 |
| 05:23.06 | andrew2325 | soon to be debian if it will actually wget stuff |
| 05:23.21 | rooly | hrm... |
| 05:23.34 | andrew2325 | the problem is with the openmoko's networking. probably resolv.conf changed to a really strange cable company |
| 05:23.42 | rooly | i mean...you can pretty much get networking working with 3 commands in linux... |
| 05:24.01 | andrew2325 | echo nameserver yada yada yada |
| 05:24.16 | rooly | prefers to rely on the OpenDNS |
| 05:24.25 | rooly | 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 |
| 05:25.30 | DocScrutinizer | rooly: seem to remember seeing this in actual resolv.conf ? |
| 05:25.42 | rooly | is it in there by default? |
| 05:25.45 | rooly | thats new |
| 05:26.03 | andrew2325 | eh, my resolv.conf was naked |
| 05:26.12 | DocScrutinizer | hooks up FR... |
| 05:26.18 | rooly | echo "namesever 208.67.222.222" > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 05:26.21 | andrew2325 | so i put my resolv.conf from ubuntu |
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| 05:26.35 | andrew2325 | now i can't log into it |
| 05:26.35 | andrew2325 | great |
| 05:27.20 | DocScrutinizer | muhahaha |
| 05:27.32 | DocScrutinizer | cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 05:28.39 | DocScrutinizer | nameserver 127.0.0.1 \n nameserver 208.67.222.222 \n nameserver 208.67.222.220 \n nameserver 208.67.222.222 \n nameserver 208.67.222.220 \n nameserver 208.67.222.222 \n nameserver 208.67.222.220 \n |
| 05:29.31 | rooly | DocScrutinizer: 208.67.222.220 is not right |
| 05:29.58 | DocScrutinizer | oh yes. Typo here |
| 05:30.21 | DocScrutinizer | anyway the multiple entries look quite odd |
| 05:30.26 | rooly | definitely |
| 05:30.39 | rooly | i solved it by simply having it as a init.d script |
| 05:30.45 | DocScrutinizer | also 127.0.0.1 is questionable |
| 05:31.03 | DocScrutinizer | no idea what SHR does |
| 05:31.22 | rooly | just echoing opendns into resolv.conf at boot-time |
| 05:31.48 | DocScrutinizer | that'S about it. probably booted device 3 or 4 times now |
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| 05:32.06 | DocScrutinizer | echo foo >>resolv.conf XD |
| 05:32.27 | vininim | that's the default on shr by the way =P (or was 2 months ago) |
| 05:32.47 | DocScrutinizer | booting |
| 05:34.19 | vininim | I should too, and hope that it'll fix my usb connectivity. (not usb0 -> eth1 thing) |
| 05:34.24 | DocScrutinizer | takes.... |
| 05:34.42 | rooly | forever to boot? |
| 05:34.52 | rooly | finished DocScrutinizer sentence |
| 05:34.56 | DocScrutinizer | well at least some minutes |
| 05:35.09 | rooly | lol |
| 05:35.21 | DocScrutinizer | here we are |
| 05:36.01 | DocScrutinizer | yup, another pair of lines ;D |
| 05:36.14 | rooly | lol |
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| 05:39.01 | vininim | <3 network-manager *kill -9* |
| 05:43.26 | jc | rooly: forever booting....... |
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| 05:59.15 | andrew2325 | yay, i had a bad coax earlier |
| 05:59.29 | andrew2325 | now all i have to do is figure out wtf is going on |
| 05:59.30 | rooly | ? |
| 05:59.44 | andrew2325 | retard that hooked up the cable |
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| 06:16.47 | vininim | gah, something funky is happening with my usb networking |
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| 07:37.18 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * rb1cc8dd46693 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: |
| 07:37.18 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Use proper base class when calling responseFromChannel |
| 07:37.18 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: This fixes bug #390 and also fixes a potential problem in ListCalls. |
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| 07:49.09 | andrew2325 | i can't ssh this thing |
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| 07:52.12 | andrew2325 | i can't ping my openmoko |
| 07:52.30 | andrew2325 | i followed the instructions for usb networking |
| 07:52.33 | andrew2325 | to no avail |
| 07:52.44 | andrew2325 | i tried two different operating systems to no avail |
| 07:52.54 | andrew2325 | 2008.12 and fso |
| 07:53.08 | andrew2325 | it's really getting on the nerves |
| 07:53.26 | KenYoung | andrew2325, Is this your first time trying USB networking, or did you just flash new code and lose the ability to network to it? |
| 07:53.37 | andrew2325 | eh, kind of both |
| 07:53.51 | andrew2325 | i had it set up just fine. got a new microsd and now it's fucked |
| 07:54.13 | KenYoung | andrew2325, What distribution are you running? |
| 07:54.20 | andrew2325 | fso right now |
| 07:54.27 | andrew2325 | tried 2008.12 too |
| 07:54.44 | andrew2325 | followed the USB networking guide |
| 07:54.48 | andrew2325 | no luck |
| 07:55.28 | andrew2325 | the computer has ubuntu on it |
| 07:55.57 | KenYoung | andrew2325, I use Ubuntu too - but your problem doesn't ring a bell for me, I'm afraid. |
| 07:56.35 | andrew2325 | well, tell me how to bring up the usb networking interface |
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| 07:56.40 | andrew2325 | maybe that will help |
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| 07:57.09 | dent | morgen |
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| 07:58.11 | andrew2325 | the networking box says unmanaged |
| 07:58.18 | andrew2325 | by the freerunner |
| 07:58.32 | andrew2325 | no wauy to edit the auto usb0 |
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| 08:00.14 | KenYoung | andrew2325, I'm happy to check anything on my working Ubuntu/Freerunner combo that might be helpful to your debug process, but I'm afraid I'm not enough of an expert to suggest what you should try next. |
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| 08:05.36 | dent | a bit OT, but maybe someone knows... what is the correct way of scanning a SD card for bad blocks? Had it been a disk, I'd have used badblocks, but as the SD (probably) does wear-levelling, I'm not sure badblocks is helpful. Is there any other/better way? |
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| 08:27.49 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03Sebastian 07libeflvala * r228ec242bf44 10/vapi/evas.vapi: |
| 08:27.49 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: [evas.vapi] add Image.size_get() binding |
| 08:27.49 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> |
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| 10:18.06 | *** topic/#openmoko is Newsflash: Openmoko puts further phone models on ice, support for present models continues with limited forces | Users of Openmoko Hardware | Developers, please join#openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org/ | Before asking read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 10:19.56 | soul9 | does anyone know the name of the package containing make |
| 10:19.58 | soul9 | on shr? |
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| 10:30.21 | soul9 | heh so noone has ever used make on shr? |
| 10:30.57 | shellevil | most people seem to thiink building on the phone is silly |
| 10:31.32 | soul9 | well, i know quite a few people who have built their whole distro on the FR |
| 10:31.43 | soul9 | and they seem to have a great time :) |
| 10:32.01 | soul9 | anyways, i need to build because there is no package for the thing i need |
| 10:32.11 | soul9 | i wouldn't thing that's rare either |
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| 10:35.08 | alephnull | pazante: qi or u-boot ? |
| 10:36.22 | alephnull | pazante: Try this, boot from NOR and select Boot. Does that work ? |
| 10:36.27 | Q-Master | shellevil: having a non-x86 architecture forces to use on-phone building |
| 10:39.18 | soul9 | yeah, i agree |
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| 10:39.30 | soul9 | except the people who have all the fancy shr build stuff setup |
| 10:40.35 | shellevil | yeah |
| 10:41.00 | Q-Master | has a powerpc comp, so there's no build sdk for ppc |
| 10:41.02 | shellevil | just loading stuff on the phone, and hitting ./configure;make;make install is a lot easier in some ways |
| 10:41.23 | shellevil | and not ctually that slow undless you're builing whole distribuitons |
| 10:41.36 | pazante | alephnull: boot from nor works |
| 10:41.38 | soul9 | so in what package is gmake on shr? :) |
| 10:42.08 | alephnull | pazante: You should fix your qi (or u-boot) then. Use the recommended version. |
| 10:42.20 | alephnull | Recommended for 2008.12, I mean. |
| 10:42.41 | pazante | alephnull: ok thanks |
| 10:43.25 | alephnull | pazante: I'll wager you tried a Koolu automated install image ... |
| 10:44.22 | pazante | alephnull: yes i did |
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| 10:46.38 | Q-Master | koolu qi is somehow "fixed" |
| 10:46.50 | Q-Master | flash a normal qi |
| 10:47.41 | soul9 | hay guise?! |
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| 10:51.36 | soul9 | hai guise, noone here uses shr? or noone here actually uses shr? ;) |
| 10:51.41 | soul9 | where is make? |
| 10:53.13 | Q-Master | is not using shr coz there's no normal addressbook |
| 10:53.22 | soul9 | yes there is |
| 10:53.24 | Q-Master | I am not using the SIM contacts |
| 10:53.54 | soul9 | so what distro are you using? |
| 10:54.14 | Q-Master | I am now using android. |
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| 10:55.08 | soul9 | ah |
| 10:55.18 | soul9 | is really frostrated from not finding make on shr |
| 10:55.20 | soul9 | w T F |
| 10:55.59 | qknight | i have two kind of odd things with my graphics on the openmoko using shr |
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| 10:56.31 | qknight | i have some sort of distortion in the right part of the screen (vanished after suspend) or reboot |
| 10:56.46 | qknight | and the second would be flickering in vertical direction from time to time |
| 10:56.51 | qknight | i never notices both at the same time yet |
| 10:57.17 | qknight | and both problems seem to be not occuring often |
| 10:57.44 | soul9 | huh weird, never had that |
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| 10:57.54 | qknight | nobody else with that issues? |
| 10:58.29 | qknight | i thought it was a broken circuit but as a software suspend seems to fix it, it seems more like a driver issue |
| 10:58.34 | qknight | or power issue of some sort |
| 10:59.21 | Q-Master | is not yet using shr |
| 10:59.40 | soul9 | Q-Master, what version of android are you using? |
| 10:59.56 | Q-Master | panicking 14.6 |
| 11:00.00 | Q-Master | cupcake |
| 11:00.21 | soul9 | oh, panicking is still working on android? |
| 11:00.25 | soul9 | hum |
| 11:02.37 | Q-Master | anyway it is better than koolu one |
| 11:03.11 | Q-Master | I don't want to flash it to NAND so I need a tarball with all the data to put on ext3 |
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| 11:03.30 | Q-Master | but koolu makes one partition in yaffs2 |
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| 11:12.27 | alephnull | Q-Master: Can't hear worth a damn though. |
| 11:20.32 | qknight | if i use the shr midori browser my OM often crashes |
| 11:23.10 | qknight | does the openmoko have virtual memory? |
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| 11:25.23 | shellevil | yes |
| 11:25.35 | shellevil | If you mean swap, it's not enabled |
| 11:25.40 | shellevil | you can do that if you want |
| 11:26.06 | alephnull | At the risk of sending your flash to an early grave. |
| 11:26.47 | shellevil | yeah - well - swap to Sd. |
| 11:26.50 | shellevil | Who cares. |
| 11:29.16 | mjr | Indeed, sd is cheap and easily replaceable. And not _that_ quickly burned through in practice even, since you're not likely to do stuff that requires constant swapping - it'd be too much of a pain ;] |
| 11:30.15 | qknight | oh then i usually exceed my memory which leads to a crash |
| 11:30.16 | qknight | thanks |
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| 12:09.43 | badcloud | hey |
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| 12:34.34 | PierreN | hello |
| 12:34.49 | PierreN | i'm trying to change default keyboard in illume |
| 12:34.58 | PierreN | they say "Then switch keyboard from "None" to "Default" in Illume's preferences. " |
| 12:35.13 | PierreN | but where to find Illume's preferences ? |
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| 12:42.40 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03wessel 07framework * re2f734c4901b 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/gpsdevice.py: |
| 12:42.40 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: ogpsd: Fix race in ogpsd/ousaged when using Gypsy Start() method |
| 12:42.41 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: This addresses some of the issues listed in (FSO #251). |
| 12:48.12 | lord-carlos | PierreN: in the upper left corner, there is a nipper |
| 12:49.02 | lord-carlos | in the drop down menu |
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| 13:00.45 | PierreN | a nipper ? |
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| 13:03.34 | lord-carlos | PierreN: if you touch the uper part of the screen, the drop down menu comes down. Right? |
| 13:03.47 | PierreN | ah ok got it thanks |
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| 13:25.31 | frankS2 | any chance to get the headset working? |
| 13:25.50 | max_posedon | hm... just plug in? |
| 13:26.01 | frankS2 | but the mic? |
| 13:26.18 | max_posedon | hm.. don't know |
| 13:26.24 | max_posedon | should work |
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| 15:20.11 | slaxxer | so now if somebody would fix tangogps an guitar tuner we would have some impressive apps that would sell thie thing |
| 15:22.33 | slaxxer | opkg.org needs to manage these apps in a different manner |
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| 15:23.37 | slaxxer | if theres 3 different os's, they need to be seperated, because not all things work with all os's |
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| 15:55.33 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r540f58f64045 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py: ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO] send +CLVL=255 after the antenna has been powered on, otherwise it gets reset. closes FSO |
| 15:58.18 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * re9eb7d50a12e 10/docs/ogsmd/ti_calypso/modem: docs: document +CFUN resetting +CLVL |
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| 16:05.23 | Bert_2 | Hi, I'm on shr and the standard image comes with the mofi wifimanager, but it's not really working well for me, does anyone know a wifi manager that works better and that enables and disables the wifi when required ? |
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| 16:31.15 | ndnihil | anybody else get a random "stripe of death" when suspending? |
| 16:31.19 | ndnihil | shr testing |
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| 17:38.04 | PBeck | ahoi |
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| 17:52.14 | slaxxer | ndnihil 3 times before testing came out |
| 17:52.40 | slaxxer | on unstable |
| 17:52.56 | slaxxer | but now with testing im good |
| 17:53.05 | slaxxer | very weird |
| 17:53.26 | slaxxer | pandomness is ugly |
| 17:53.36 | slaxxer | randomness |
| 17:54.41 | ndnihil | I didn't have it at all until the other day |
| 17:54.49 | ndnihil | and hadn't done anything to it recently |
| 17:54.53 | ndnihil | just kinda popped up |
| 17:55.20 | slaxxer | opkg? |
| 17:55.36 | ndnihil | ? |
| 17:55.49 | slaxxer | i havent used nand erase or anything though |
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| 18:22.29 | rhaeder | does someone has a MokoMakefile with qemu support? I would like to re-add it and try to fix it. this was a very nice and simple way of pre-seeing your new smartphone before you hold it in your hands. :) |
| 18:23.08 | Serdar | there is something in the next days in Essen right? |
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| 18:23.54 | rhaeder | I dunno, if you ask me |
| 18:24.30 | rhaeder | and my ticket (Ticket 1000) doesn't go far enough. |
| 18:24.35 | Serdar | hm |
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| 18:38.39 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r3abe69d44e17 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/freescale_neptune/channel.py: ogsmd: [FREESCALE NEPTUNE] revert last change causing an endless loop in sending +EMGL=4 |
| 18:40.24 | rhaeder | MokoMakefile is still broken: http://rafb.net/p/XX51kp93.html |
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| 18:47.42 | |Marco| | who managed to muck up E again this time ? |
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| 18:59.57 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: thanks for the C&R you sent to lindi-, he had his GTA02 buzz fixed earlier and I got it fixed today, cool :) We still have 4R:s and 8 C:s if someone (in Finland) want's to try.. |
| 19:00.40 | Zorkman | anyone in here has gotten a2dp working on latest shr-testing? |
| 19:00.56 | Zorkman | i'm gettin an error |
| 19:01.03 | Zorkman | [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_bluetooth.c:1570:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5) |
| 19:01.03 | Zorkman | [AO_ALSA] Playback open error: Input/output error |
| 19:01.27 | WhiteTiger | any info on GTA02 on QEMU Emulator |
| 19:01.49 | lindi- | WhiteTiger: why do you want that? |
| 19:02.10 | WhiteTiger | coz i dont have any Freerunner |
| 19:03.21 | lindi- | WhiteTiger: but what are you trying to do? |
| 19:03.58 | WhiteTiger | i am trying to run GTA02 emulator on my Laptop |
| 19:04.06 | lindi- | WhiteTiger: but why? |
| 19:04.49 | WhiteTiger | coz i dont have the physical GTA02 machine ..and i want to have a look and feel of GTA02 |
| 19:05.18 | lindi- | WhiteTiger: you want to test a distro that only works on gta02? |
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| 19:05.40 | lindi- | WhiteTiger: since GTA02 does not have much look and feel, it's just 480x640 display |
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| 19:06.14 | WhiteTiger | i am able to run GTA01 on Qemu Emulator on my laptop |
| 19:06.26 | WhiteTiger | but failed with GTA02 |
| 19:07.12 | max_posedon | so just run gta01 |
| 19:07.18 | mwester | Nobody ever wrote the gta02-specific emulator code. |
| 19:07.30 | max_posedon | qemu is little bit broken for latest kernel |
| 19:07.52 | max_posedon | and looks like qemu-neo1973 project is dead |
| 19:07.58 | WhiteTiger | i am getting error while flashing the NANS |
| 19:08.01 | WhiteTiger | NAND |
| 19:08.49 | max_posedon | this is because may be gta02 and gta01 have different nand structure |
| 19:09.00 | max_posedon | but if gta01 work, you should use it |
| 19:09.56 | WhiteTiger | but i dont know how to ssh into tht GTA01 emulator..so i can only click on the current utilities |
| 19:10.34 | max_posedon | hm... check the docs on openmoko.org |
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| 19:33.50 | lord-carlos | hi, i get an error on upgrade: http://cxg.de/?id=gORPcJKWNSTqCuQ |
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| 19:36.52 | lord-carlos | looks like "opkg remove openmoko-messages3 -force-depends" is working |
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| 19:41.38 | shellevil | upgrade will usually not work |
| 19:41.43 | shellevil | you should generally reflash |
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| 20:10.27 | TAsn | lord-carlos, actually just removing the shr-task-* or what ever it's name is which depends on openmoko-messages3, removing the openmoko-*3 apps and the installing the shr-task* package again is the correct thing to do. |
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| 20:26.06 | vininim | is it possible to partition cards in freerunner while in usb mass storage mode? |
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| 20:34.33 | nqe | got trouble using network over BT (XP laptop). Pairing is ok |
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| 20:37.15 | nqe | hcitool scan on phone says 11:(*6) |
| 20:37.32 | nqe | on laptop it says it's 10:11:(*5) |
| 20:49.55 | nqe | I don't seem to get any arp reply back to my request over BT... |
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| 20:52.39 | badcloud | hey all |
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| 20:53.14 | nqe | pairing OK, Status connected |
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| 20:56.41 | nqe | Running wireshark on BT if. Now see arp requests from OM in wireshark. & arp replies back from laptop to OM |
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| 21:06.12 | nqe | badcloud:hey |
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| 21:09.56 | badcloud | what's up nqe? |
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| 21:18.54 | PierreN | just installed debian on my tiny MicroSD 512MB card, and i'm wondering how to use the 256MBÂ of NANDÂ flash offered by my fr ? ( |
| 21:20.41 | Wonka | hrmf. where do I find myself some "swt-gtk-3448"? |
| 21:21.58 | Wonka | i just want to run gvSIGmobile on debian on FR |
| 21:22.51 | Wonka | and i get an "UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3448 or swt-gtk in swt.library.path, ..." |
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| 22:11.28 | PierreN | anyone here who could help me how to use xfce4 please ? |
| 22:11.39 | PierreN | how to have a keyboard on the phone ? |
| 22:11.51 | PierreN | i tried to install matchbox |
| 22:12.03 | PierreN | add line to .xsession |
| 22:12.10 | PierreN | and then what should i do ? |
| 22:12.39 | PierreN | and also can i send call/text message with xfce ? |
| 22:12.56 | PierreN | i tried to install sephora also |
| 22:12.57 | PierreN | but |
| 22:13.25 | PierreN | i can't launch it since i don't have a keyboard :-( |
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| 22:20.33 | PierreN | any help with xfce please ? |
| 22:20.35 | KungFuJesus | man, I wish the flashing process for the neo wasn't so damn complicated |
| 22:21.03 | PierreN | KungFuJesus: where is the problem ? |
| 22:21.44 | KungFuJesus | you gotta do everything from setting up usb networking, to setting up ssh autologins, to routing/nating so you can install mkfs.jffs2 |
| 22:22.00 | KungFuJesus | I mean it's nothing I can't handle, but jeez |
| 22:22.33 | shellevil | err - no |
| 22:22.44 | shellevil | you run dfu-util -whatever imagename |
| 22:22.54 | KungFuJesus | plus, the subnet is the same as my wired network. Of course my wireless lan is 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 22:23.02 | KungFuJesus | shellevil: not to back up |
| 22:23.12 | shellevil | after pressing the right button when switching on the phone. |
| 22:23.30 | shellevil | what do you mean to back up |
| 22:23.32 | KungFuJesus | meh, the flashing isn't too awful once you're in the NOR/NAND menu |
| 22:23.38 | KungFuJesus | backing up the current firmware |
| 22:23.48 | shellevil | dfu-util can do that too |
| 22:24.03 | KungFuJesus | ahh, then why the hell does the wiki take me through all that trouble? |
| 22:24.10 | shellevil | Or I think it can |
| 22:24.32 | KungFuJesus | is it normal for wifi to not work at all with what comes from the factory? |
| 22:24.39 | KungFuJesus | I just assumed so since it's about a year old |
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| 22:40.55 | KungFuJesus | ok this is interesting. How come "Wifi" disappeared from my settings menu after I flashed to OM.2008.12? |
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| 22:45.14 | KungFuJesus | anybody? |
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| 22:47.49 | PierreN | no idea sorry |
| 22:48.32 | arg0 | don't use 2008.12, but this may help |
| 22:48.32 | arg0 | http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2368844 |
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| 22:52.06 | KungFuJesus | so wait I have to run kustomizer against it. Does that remove my suspend functionality? |
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| 23:22.56 | KungFuJesus | hmm, I wonder why "wifi" option went away. When I ssh to it I can connect to my WEP network without a problem |
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| 23:27.34 | slaxxer | did u try shr testing lately? |
| 23:27.48 | KungFuJesus | hey does anyone here have experience with kustomizer? |
| 23:27.58 | slaxxer | a little |
| 23:28.58 | KungFuJesus | is it normal for it to sit here: -> Adding opkg.org community repository & updating the databases -> Updating package databases |
| 23:29.19 | slaxxer | no |
| 23:29.23 | KungFuJesus | hmm |
| 23:29.31 | slaxxer | how long |
| 23:30.03 | slaxxer | wait 30 minuits |
| 23:31.55 | KungFuJesus | it was about 15 minutes |
| 23:32.06 | KungFuJesus | I manually just run opkg update and it gave me a lot of bad signatures |
| 23:34.57 | KungFuJesus | is that normal? |
| 23:36.12 | KungFuJesus | gah, I'll just walk through the bash script and look for stuff that I want to do |
| 23:36.37 | KungFuJesus | I don't really mind the keyboard and interface for the om2008. Is the one that kustomizer tries to install that much better? |
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| 23:46.51 | KungFuJesus | hmmm |
| 23:47.45 | PierreN | KungFuJesus: concerning the signatures, i have the same problem |
| 23:48.31 | PierreN | concerning speed of your connection, Kustomizer script was sloooow when tried to launch it through wifi. you should try to use usb |
| 23:49.58 | KungFuJesus | gah, then I have to build bind :-p |
| 23:51.15 | KungFuJesus | does kustomizer make a gui work for wifi? |
| 23:52.53 | KungFuJesus | the laptop it's connected to via USB is connected to the network wireless anyway |
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| 23:57.06 | PierreN | KungFuJesus: which distro are you using ? |
| 23:57.52 | KungFuJesus | 2008.12 |
| 23:58.05 | KungFuJesus | oh wow, a lot of config files it tries to fetch don't exist on their mirrors anymore |
| 23:58.46 | KungFuJesus | oh I'm using gentoo PPC for the laptop if that's what you meant |
| 23:59.29 | KungFuJesus | kurppa.fi doesn't seem to work, I get timeouts |