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| 00:41.03 | azaghal | lindi-: Were you the one who recommended me some LiOn batter for Neo? :) |
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| 01:19.54 | vancel | I just upgraded my SHR-testing to the most recent release. The wiki says that the USB networking will work after the first reboot, but I'm on my 3rd with no luck. I also have no icons, so I can't get a shell either. Is there anything I can do other than reflash my freerunner? |
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| 01:30.14 | mwester | vancel: you need to reflash, you can't upgrade via opkg. |
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| 01:33.41 | vancel | dang |
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| 01:34.33 | vancel | I just rebooted to my microSD while I was waiting... oh well, and it's too late to back up now. |
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| 01:37.26 | azaghal | :) |
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| 03:18.44 | slaxxer | where did dave go |
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| 03:20.49 | mwester | The Mokos got him. |
| 03:22.54 | slaxxer | oooo nos |
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| 03:37.17 | andrew2325 | any idea of why i would get a debugfs creation failed error after installing the december version of the openmoko os? |
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| 03:41.04 | andrew2325 | any ideas? |
| 03:43.35 | andrew2325 | is anyone home? |
| 03:43.51 | dufflebunk | no idea |
| 03:44.17 | andrew2325 | what distro do you use on it duffle? |
| 03:44.49 | dufflebunk | The one with zhone. |
| 03:45.04 | dufflebunk | I'll be switching to the qtextended distro though. |
| 03:45.53 | andrew2325 | ah, i had debian on this thing, but i got a new microsd card and wanted to try out the newest build of the om distro |
| 03:46.07 | dufflebunk | I had the most luck with it. |
| 03:46.23 | andrew2325 | yea, me too |
| 03:46.36 | andrew2325 | i was hoping 2008.12 would be better. i just found out about it. |
| 03:46.42 | andrew2325 | obviously, it doesn't work |
| 03:46.43 | andrew2325 | lol |
| 03:47.02 | dufflebunk | You might want to make sure that you updated the kernel |
| 03:47.42 | dufflebunk | 2008.12 worked for me and was fairly stable... add in opkg.org and it was pretty good. |
| 03:48.17 | andrew2325 | ah well, i'm having no luck |
| 03:48.41 | andrew2325 | flashing it again to be sure |
| 03:48.48 | andrew2325 | i know it's a filesystem error |
| 03:48.52 | andrew2325 | i have no idea why though |
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| 03:50.44 | andrew2325 | it's a paper weight right now |
| 03:52.06 | dufflebunk | I've never really bothered to put the os on an sd card. |
| 03:53.12 | andrew2325 | it's bad business |
| 03:53.25 | andrew2325 | alas, it's the only way to install debian |
| 03:53.35 | andrew2325 | the opensmartphone.org stack is out now |
| 03:53.50 | andrew2325 | i might try it if this doesn't work |
| 03:54.15 | andrew2325 | oh, it appears to be dead |
| 03:54.33 | andrew2325 | it's been a while since i went researching stuff about the openmoko. i had it the way i liked it, now there's troubles |
| 03:55.53 | dufflebunk | I'd suggest you give qtextended a try if you've never tried it. It's even still being worked on. |
| 03:56.34 | andrew2325 | cool |
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| 04:36.29 | slaxxer | fso-unstable looks good |
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| 05:54.27 | freerunnerlive | ü |
| 05:54.35 | freerunnerlive | , |
| 05:54.53 | freerunnerlive | ,,,,,,,,,,, |
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| 07:17.27 | methril|work | good morning |
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| 07:45.56 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 08:26.21 | jan___ | has anyone tried 0m2009 testing? |
| 08:26.53 | tg | - |
| 08:27.09 | tg | is that usable/stable yet? |
| 08:27.20 | tg | i mean for daily use |
| 08:27.38 | jan___ | I just flashed it on my FreeRunner |
| 08:27.49 | tg | and how do you like it? |
| 08:27.55 | jan___ | I don't know whether it is stable for daily use |
| 08:28.11 | jan___ | It is very black and white.... |
| 08:28.26 | jan___ | I'm not sure whether it shoul look like I have it... |
| 08:28.27 | tg | hm, i'll try it when i'll have some time.. |
| 08:29.50 | jan___ | It would be nice if some screenshots were posted on the wiki |
| 08:29.51 | jan___ | I could check then whether the GUI is like it has to be |
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| 08:31.36 | PaulFertser | jan___: there're some screenshots at the official project site (Paroli). |
| 08:32.29 | PaulFertser | jan___: as well as the description of what the project goals are. |
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| 08:33.41 | jan___ | I going to have a look |
| 08:41.09 | jan___ | thanks paulfertser this clarified things |
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| 09:06.00 | PaulFertser | jan___: you're welcome |
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| 09:13.08 | soul9 | hi |
| 09:13.24 | soul9 | has anyone made it to compile the openmoko-qemu images? |
| 09:14.15 | soul9 | it looks like qemu compiles fine, but then the url of the images is broken, and if i change it to the current one, i get a wewird nandwrite error |
| 09:15.58 | PaulFertser | soul9: are you sure you really want it? |
| 09:16.21 | soul9 | PaulFertser, what do you mean? |
| 09:16.27 | PaulFertser | soul9: i mean, almost nobody uses qemu for development, except debian folks using qemu-builder (but that's a different story). |
| 09:16.52 | soul9 | yes, i am, i have a friend who wants to develop for the moko and doesn't yet have one to play with |
| 09:17.16 | PaulFertser | soul9: he doesn't need any emulator for that. |
| 09:17.34 | soul9 | why? |
| 09:17.51 | PaulFertser | soul9: start a nested X-server with 480x640 resolution and develop on the host natively. |
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| 09:21.05 | PaulFertser | soul9: If he wants frameworkd, that's another story, but nobody's written a gsm modem emulator anyway, and frameworkd can be perfectly run on host. |
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| 09:22.32 | soul9 | ok |
| 09:22.33 | soul9 | thanks |
| 09:22.38 | soul9 | you're probably right |
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| 10:19.42 | skamster_ | hello there |
| 10:20.04 | skamster_ | does someone know, how i could show and delete sms with the console? |
| 10:20.21 | skamster_ | because shr-messaging doesn't working |
| 10:24.29 | PaulFertser | skamster_: yep, use mdbus to access freesmartphone API directly. |
| 10:25.19 | skamster_ | ok, but do you know the exactly commands? :$ |
| 10:25.28 | skamster_ | i doesn't programm with it yet |
| 10:25.33 | skamster_ | *code |
| 10:26.26 | PaulFertser | skamster_: just use mdbus -s to see available buses, then mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd to see available interfaces, etc. There's a good api documentation at freesmartphone.org |
| 10:26.49 | skamster_ | ok, thanks :D |
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| 10:29.04 | skamster_ | lost small question.. when i got a method, how could i start this with mdbus? |
| 10:29.30 | skamster_ | ah, nothing |
| 10:29.31 | skamster_ | i see |
| 10:29.34 | skamster_ | :) |
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| 10:32.22 | PaulFertser | skamster_: btw, you might also want to try cli-framework, it provides an interactive python prompt to frameworkd's functions. |
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| 10:34.39 | skamster_ | no, it's ok.. mdbus works well.. i don't know, which messages i deleted, but i could delete it |
| 10:34.41 | skamster_ | :p |
| 10:34.51 | skamster_ | (i see just the id's |
| 10:34.53 | skamster_ | ) |
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| 10:46.58 | skamster_ | does someone know, where the tree-init in openmoko-messenges3 would be created? |
| 10:47.36 | skamster_ | (it is python, i hope and think?) |
| 10:54.48 | PaulFertser | skamster_: most shr apps are C ;) |
| 10:55.06 | PaulFertser | skamster_: see http://git.shr-project.org |
| 11:01.04 | skamster_ | damn |
| 11:01.07 | skamster_ | :( |
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| 11:02.06 | skamster_ | yeah, i saw the git, but there i didn't find the classes.. |
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| 11:03.04 | skamster_ | mh, then i make a checkout.. i just want try to make a fix for the messege-app (if i could is another question.. ;) ) |
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| 12:49.35 | pierreN | hi ! |
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| 12:54.24 | pierreN | i'm trying to connect my fr to my computer for the first time. i can ping it (ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0;ping 192.168.0.200), but can't ssh through it : ssh root@192.168.0.200 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused |
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| 12:59.21 | Zorkman | pierreN; you've got it wrong |
| 12:59.32 | Zorkman | your FR's ip is 192.168.0.202 |
| 12:59.38 | pierreN | ow |
| 12:59.42 | Zorkman | your pc's ip adres is 192.168.0.200 |
| 12:59.52 | pierreN | ahhh ok |
| 13:00.06 | pierreN | yeah it works better this way, thanks |
| 13:00.12 | Zorkman | np |
| 13:00.16 | Zorkman | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking is a pretty good page |
| 13:02.08 | pierreN | ok |
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| 13:23.36 | pierreN | so i'm trying to update my open moko to OM2008.12. please correct me if i'm wrong :Â download .bin and .jffs2 from here : http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.12/ , then boot on NOR, then through ssh : "dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D file.jffs2 && dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D file.bin". and that's fine ? |
| 13:24.06 | dns53 | and the kernel |
| 13:24.14 | pierreN | oh ok |
| 13:25.13 | dns53 | use neotool, it is a gui wrapper around dfu-util if you are concerned |
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| 13:30.07 | PaulFertser | dns53: why have another wrapper? For another source of confusion? |
| 13:31.11 | dns53 | well you batch the flashing, it just does the dfu-util like manual but it makes it easier |
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| 13:33.39 | mmontour | pierreN: no "ssh" involved - you run dfu-util on the host PC. And it's "-a kernel", not "-a u-boot". |
| 13:35.24 | pierreN | ok |
| 13:35.47 | pierreN | on the wiki page they say u-boot : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner |
| 13:36.08 | pierreN | ah ok |
| 13:36.20 | pierreN | the .bin in the dir is a kernel not a boot loader |
| 13:37.37 | dns53 | it's usually named uImage*.bin |
| 13:40.27 | pierreN | ok |
| 13:41.28 | pierreN | and i don't find where to get the last version of u-boot. i've got the U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12, is that ok ? |
| 13:43.34 | dns53 | i've moved to qi, i'd just use the release version of u-boot as they can sometimes have problems, if everything is working don't bother flashing it |
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| 14:05.59 | pierreN | ok dns53 |
| 14:07.48 | pierreN | now i have successfully updated to a new OM and a new kernel, thanks |
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| 14:25.22 | slaxxer | someone needs to update the latest news |
| 14:25.31 | slaxxer | on the main page |
| 14:25.41 | dns53 | what news? |
| 14:26.47 | jc1 | what's new? |
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| 14:31.02 | dns53 | do we know what plan b is? |
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| 14:32.55 | slaxxer | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/documentation/2009-April/001105.html |
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| 14:33.56 | jc1 | slaxxer: what's wrong with that? |
| 14:34.09 | slaxxer | im lazy |
| 14:35.27 | slaxxer | i guess its just an interview |
| 14:36.05 | jc1 | slaxxer: looks like an interview. |
| 14:36.08 | jc1 | slaxxer: you are right. |
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| 14:40.17 | jc1 | dns53: 9)More on Plan B and when it is expected? I thought it's an open hair straightener? |
| 14:44.00 | slaxxer | plan b is "cover our own assas |
| 14:44.05 | slaxxer | " |
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| 14:47.27 | jc1 | slaxxer: cover the ares, save the earth~ |
| 14:48.50 | slaxxer | wheres Dave--Cancun? |
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| 15:14.43 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r3fb3368f0561 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: allow overriding log_level, log_to, log_destination via environment |
| 15:14.49 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra502b35735e2 10/libfsotransport/ (19 files in 4 dirs): |
| 15:14.50 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: fsotransport: new library; needed to be separated from libfsoframework since needed for other |
| 15:14.50 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: projects such as libgsm0710mux, fso-abyss, fso-term, etc. as well, which might not need |
| 15:14.51 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: the rest of libfsotransport. |
| 15:14.53 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfbaa741d9637 10/libfsotransport/ (fsotransport-2.0.pc.in fsotransport/Makefile.am): fsotransport: link to -lutil for ptsname_r |
| 15:14.56 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r67041bb4aa5d 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/transport.vala: fsotransport: add setPriorities() |
| 15:14.59 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r48fe1f80f786 10/libfsoframework/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: remove transport functions; they're now in libfsotransport |
| 15:15.04 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra57f1513482a 10/fsogsmd/ (8 files in 7 dirs): fsogsmd: Libgsm0710muxTransport now lives in its library |
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| 16:14.04 | spydon | which is the most stable android image? |
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| 16:14.17 | frankS2 | Hi does the openmoko play OGG files with pythm? |
| 16:14.21 | frankS2 | (SHR) |
| 16:15.50 | alephnull | spydon: panicking's cupcake is the most functional. |
| 16:16.21 | Sharwin_F | frankS2, think yes. If not, try intone or mokoko ;) |
| 16:16.24 | spydon | alephnull, do you have a link? :) |
| 16:16.36 | Sharwin_F | ops, that was for frankS2 ^ |
| 16:16.52 | Sharwin_F | aaarg, it was good, what a mess xD |
| 16:20.55 | frankS2 | Sharwin_F: where can i get intone? and mokoko for SHR? |
| 16:21.18 | max_posedon | opkg install mokoko |
| 16:21.20 | Sharwin_F | frankS2, mokoko is in the repos |
| 16:21.28 | Sharwin_F | intone is in opkg.org |
| 16:21.39 | Sharwin_F | I personally use intone |
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| 16:40.37 | jonkristian | alephnull: you are aware the koolu beta 6 is out? |
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| 16:47.40 | frankS2 | hmmmmm i am following this how-to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking - but the openmoko still gets no internet thorugh USB0 :( |
| 16:47.42 | frankS2 | any tips? |
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| 16:50.34 | Weiss | frankS2: try eth1 |
| 16:50.40 | Weiss | too slow :( |
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| 16:51.13 | |Marco| | okay, I've seen this on 2 different MicroSD cards now and in both ext2 and 3 now. I keep getting "No space left on device" error's while there is a LOT more space available: |
| 16:51.23 | |Marco| | /dev/mmcblk0p3 1922444 571852 1252936 31% /home/root |
| 16:51.30 | |Marco| | root@erika ~ $ touch test |
| 16:51.30 | |Marco| | touch: test: No space left on device |
| 16:52.04 | |Marco| | this is on SHR Testing |
| 16:52.44 | thrashold | |Marco|: What does df -i say? |
| 16:53.07 | |Marco| | thrashold: -i invalid option ? |
| 16:53.29 | |Marco| | 18:51 < |Marco|> /dev/mmcblk0p3 1922444 571852 1252936 31% /home/root |
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| 16:54.00 | |Marco| | total size: 1922444 used: 571852 avalible: 1252936 |
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| 16:54.33 | thrashold | Hm, SHR is using that replacement tool I forgot the name of. |
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| 16:54.46 | |Marco| | thrashold: for what ? |
| 16:55.07 | thrashold | For everything, so df can't print the number of free inodes. |
| 16:55.22 | |Marco| | d'oh |
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| 16:55.31 | |Marco| | ah, sandbox ? |
| 16:55.41 | |Marco| | busybox!! |
| 16:55.48 | thrashold | busybox, right |
| 16:55.58 | thrashold | Anyway, that's an unlikely cause anyway |
| 16:56.27 | |Marco| | What I don't understand is why it hit's always arround 512MB |
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| 16:56.39 | thrashold | But I can't think of any other reason that a filesystem would pretend to be full |
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| 16:57.17 | thrashold | The other candidate is the space reserved for root |
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| 16:58.48 | |Marco| | thrashold: hold on |
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| 16:59.39 | |Marco| | thrashold: http://pastebin.com/m334a05e3 |
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| 17:03.38 | thrashold | There is space reserved for the superuser, by default it is 5%, is there any chance that your filesystem is formatted with a different value? (Couldn't find any way to read the value) |
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| 17:04.40 | shellevil | dumpe2fs /dev/filesystem|grep eserved |
| 17:05.06 | |Marco| | thrashold: well, I didn't use any other way of formating the card's partitions than mkfs.extX /dev/partnr |
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| 17:05.22 | |Marco| | shellevil: ? |
| 17:06.02 | shellevil | that'll tell you the number of reserved blocks in the filesystem |
| 17:06.19 | |Marco| | okay, hold on |
| 17:07.41 | shellevil | I really, really doubt that's te reason |
| 17:09.01 | |Marco| | haha, nice: |
| 17:09.01 | |Marco| | root@erika ~ $ dumpe2fs /dev/mmcblk0p3 |grep eserved |
| 17:09.01 | |Marco| | dumpe2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) |
| 17:09.01 | |Marco| | Segmentation fault |
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| 17:09.48 | shellevil | err |
| 17:09.53 | shellevil | this is an ext2 partition? |
| 17:09.58 | |Marco| | mhm |
| 17:10.03 | shellevil | if not, please pretend I diddn't say anything |
| 17:10.06 | |Marco| | /dev/mmcblk0p3 on /home/root type ext2 (rw,errors=continue) |
| 17:10.18 | shellevil | ah |
| 17:11.02 | |Marco| | I had ext3 on all of them earlyer, but got the same problem, so I switched to ext2 in hopes that it'd help... |
| 17:12.10 | thrashold | |Marco|: What does dmesg say? Any errors on your card reported? |
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| 17:13.19 | thrashold | Though, in case of errors, it should be giving you I/O error... |
| 17:13.51 | |Marco| | noop, no error |
| 17:14.06 | |Marco| | same problem I got on the previous card |
| 17:14.20 | |Marco| | this is a 4gb card the previous one was a 2gb |
| 17:14.43 | thrashold | Erm, can you create a file in a subdirectory? |
| 17:15.09 | |Marco| | err.. I just freed some space... |
| 17:15.12 | |Marco| | not much |
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| 17:16.30 | thrashold | can you append to files when there is "no space left"? |
| 17:17.01 | |Marco| | thrashold: hold on, doing a upgrade |
| 17:17.31 | |Marco| | root: / and /home/root are on seperate partitions |
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| 17:19.56 | |Marco| | oh god.. looks like the desktop icons are gone AGAIN |
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| 17:21.36 | frankS2 | "enlightenment was unable to run the app intone . the app failed to start" |
| 17:21.41 | frankS2 | any tips? |
| 17:21.54 | |Marco| | frankS2: I'd also like to know |
| 17:23.23 | Sharwin_F | frankS2, run it on terminal to see more info |
| 17:24.20 | frankS2 | ah |
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| 17:24.35 | |Marco| | wow, it's been a LONG time since I've seen an upgrade pulling that many packages in SHR Testing |
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| 17:24.43 | frankS2 | Sharwin_F: |Marco|: error loading shared lib: libecore_input.so.0: no such file or dir |
| 17:25.25 | |Marco| | frankS2: think I got the same error, but it's some time since I tested it. I'll give it a kick as soon as the upgrade is done |
| 17:27.09 | beer_ | is there a nice app for synk a freerunner (SHR or qt improved) with Kontact (kde Pim)? |
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| 17:28.49 | mwester | s/k/c/ |
| 17:29.40 | Sharwin_F | frankS2, it says on the comments that only works for shr-unstable's E version |
| 17:29.58 | frankS2 | Sharwin_F: how can i upgrade to unstable E? |
| 17:30.17 | Sharwin_F | frankS2, flashing unstable? :P |
| 17:30.27 | frankS2 | damn |
| 17:30.29 | frankS2 | needs flash |
| 17:30.31 | frankS2 | :< |
| 17:30.34 | Sharwin_F | but don't know if it's broken right now, I've asked some minutes ago, wiating for an answer |
| 17:31.09 | Sharwin_F | if it's ok, you can flash and then change feeds to testing in order to not break things when upgrading |
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| 17:36.01 | mwester | No, you can't flash unstable and change the feeds to testing -- crossing feeds is like crossing the streams in ghostbusters. |
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| 17:40.48 | frankS2 | oh |
| 17:40.50 | frankS2 | fuck me |
| 17:40.54 | frankS2 | updated packagages |
| 17:41.00 | frankS2 | and the icons dissepeared |
| 17:41.01 | frankS2 | haha |
| 17:41.03 | frankS2 | i hate this |
| 17:41.06 | |Marco| | frankS2: me to |
| 17:41.12 | |Marco| | just did the same thing :( |
| 17:41.26 | frankS2 | i guess i could do a flash now then |
| 17:41.27 | frankS2 | lol |
| 17:41.30 | Sharwin_F | xD |
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| 17:43.13 | frankS2 | Sharwin_F: where can ifind the unstable images? |
| 17:43.52 | Sharwin_F | frankS2, http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ |
| 17:44.22 | frankS2 | uhm |
| 17:44.25 | frankS2 | which ones shall i pick |
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| 17:56.06 | spydon | which u-boot should I use for panickings android images? |
| 17:56.12 | spydon | or should I use qi? |
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| 17:59.43 | AntonTakk | my understanding was that qi is the way to go for android, if you have a gtao2, anyways |
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| 18:05.41 | frankS2 | hmmmm |
| 18:05.44 | frankS2 | android work on openmoko? |
| 18:05.46 | frankS2 | :O:O |
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| 18:07.07 | frankS2 | gps work+S |
| 18:07.10 | frankS2 | ? |
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| 20:30.06 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-term * r378646a510b1 10/ (Makefile.am configure.ac src/terminal.vala): no need to use libfsoframework, libfsotransport is enough |
| 20:30.27 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * r78bd2beb2a19 10/gsm0710mux/manager.vala: bail out, if someone wants to use SOCKET |
| 20:30.31 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07phonesim * r5a3753837fe9 10/.gitignore: add gitignore |
| 20:31.07 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r259b8c86e476 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/calling.py: ogsmd: add note where to handle data calls in calling.py |
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| 21:37.12 | PierreN | hi |
| 21:37.30 | PierreN | i'm trying to connect to internet with my fr through my debian computer |
| 21:38.11 | PierreN | i have connected my fr to my computer, can ssh to it |
| 21:38.19 | PierreN | but can't ping google.com |
| 21:38.24 | PierreN | on my fr |
| 21:38.32 | PierreN | what do i need to set up please ? |
| 21:39.02 | max_posedon | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking |
| 21:39.25 | PierreN | i don't get it with the wifi |
| 21:39.30 | PierreN | the wiki* |
| 21:40.02 | PierreN | my iptables configuration is null (i allow everything) |
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| 21:42.13 | PierreN | then i echoed nameserver on /etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:42.40 | PierreN | but ping still doesn't work |
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| 21:43.37 | max_posedon | but this wiki says that iptables shouldn't be null |
| 21:43.56 | max_posedon | you shoul setup ip forwarding |
| 21:44.04 | max_posedon | *should* |
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| 21:51.09 | PierreN | just don't get it... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#The_more_advanced_way done all the commands here, but with no success |
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| 21:57.26 | frankS2 | hmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 21:57.32 | frankS2 | is it safe to update unstable SHR? |
| 21:57.37 | frankS2 | or is it broking |
| 21:59.08 | Sharwin_F- | frankS2, safe |
| 21:59.08 | max_posedon | no, you should flash testing |
| 21:59.20 | Sharwin_F- | just a little bug on dialer |
| 21:59.28 | Sharwin_F- | not showing numbers correctly or something |
| 21:59.36 | Sharwin_F- | but usable thought |
| 22:00.58 | frankS2 | max_posedon: i have just flashed it....... |
| 22:02.27 | wurp2|gone | testing is quite recent and quite good |
| 22:02.47 | frankS2 | Collected errors: |
| 22:02.49 | frankS2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.54 | frankS2 | anyone else get this one? |
| 22:03.03 | wurp2 | yep, I get that |
| 22:03.11 | Weiss | everyone gets that |
| 22:03.17 | wurp2 | So far it hasn't stopped me from installing anything I wanted |
| 22:03.17 | frankS2 | lol |
| 22:03.24 | frankS2 | why isnt it fixed yet? |
| 22:03.41 | wurp2 | insufficient bitching, probably |
| 22:04.12 | wurp2 | or 'cause you/me haven't fixed it |
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| 22:15.47 | qknight | i use shr |
| 22:15.56 | qknight | i want to automodprobe loop, how to do that? |
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| 22:17.22 | frankS2 | is there any good way to download maps for tangogps? instead of making them autodownload |
| 22:17.48 | qknight | yes |
| 22:17.56 | qknight | use the right click on the current view |
| 22:18.06 | qknight | it shows a download menu in the context menu |
| 22:18.20 | qknight | very easy to use right from the view you have |
| 22:18.54 | frankS2 | right click? |
| 22:18.57 | frankS2 | i dont have a mouse |
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| 22:20.03 | qknight | frankS2: sorry i meant single click (finger down fast) |
| 22:20.08 | qknight | and don't drag! |
| 22:20.14 | qknight | or use your right finger ;-) |
| 22:21.44 | frankS2 | download 6x zoom |
| 22:21.46 | frankS2 | =) |
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| 22:34.44 | frankS2 | the way OSM saves maps kindoff sucks |
| 22:34.47 | frankS2 | i mean .png files |
| 22:34.58 | frankS2 | why not use a *image* |
| 22:35.54 | Weiss | qknight: add a file inside /etc/modutils, then update-modules |
| 22:36.07 | Weiss | frankS2: hmm? |
| 22:36.21 | frankS2 | the maps in tangogps |
| 22:36.53 | Weiss | .png is an image? |
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| 22:38.58 | frankS2 | yes |
| 22:39.02 | frankS2 | i mean like an image |
| 22:39.04 | frankS2 | like .iso |
| 22:39.07 | frankS2 | that way |
| 22:39.42 | max_posedon | may be it is better to use navit |
| 22:40.12 | max_posedon | at least his maps isn't so big, if you want full your country/europe/world |
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| 22:47.44 | qknight | Weiss: i try that |
| 22:47.45 | qknight | thanks |
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| 22:48.44 | frankS2 | oh fuck |
| 22:48.56 | frankS2 | now the screen is just white |
| 22:48.59 | frankS2 | and nothing is happening |
| 22:49.01 | frankS2 | GREAT |
| 22:51.15 | Weiss | frankS2: inside the TangoGPS border? that just means it's failing to download a tile |
| 22:51.20 | frankS2 | no |
| 22:51.23 | frankS2 | the entire phone lol |
| 22:51.33 | Weiss | that sounds like a WSoD :( |
| 22:53.00 | frankS2 | now i SSHed in |
| 22:53.06 | frankS2 | rm -rf all the files in /root |
| 22:53.09 | frankS2 | and now its black |
| 22:53.11 | frankS2 | lol |
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| 23:14.16 | DocScrutinizer | mwester: mike westernize??? :D |
| 23:14.53 | DocScrutinizer | mwester: a kernel patch alias? |
| 23:16.29 | DocScrutinizer | frankS2: join #trolls |
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| 23:16.59 | frankS2 | DocScrutinizer: nobody there :( |
| 23:17.07 | PierreN | i can't figure out how to connect my freerunner to my computer... http://pastie.org/454022 dmesg shows that my fr is connected, but then lsusb shows nothing... any idea please ? |
| 23:18.39 | DocScrutinizer | [ 1407.860461] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 21 |
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| 23:21.20 | DocScrutinizer | PierreN: here->> |
| 23:21.21 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 22 01:20:23 halley kernel: usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:03.0-2, CDC Ethernet Devic |
| 23:21.23 | DocScrutinizer | e, be:78:e8:54:6e:d5 |
| 23:21.41 | DocScrutinizer | seems your system is loading wrong driver |
| 23:22.23 | max_posedon | hm..... PierreN you want connect to u-boot, or ssh? |
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| 23:24.31 | DocScrutinizer | usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices |
| 23:24.32 | DocScrutinizer | usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:03.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, be:78:e8:54:6e:d5 |
| 23:24.34 | DocScrutinizer | usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1457, idProduct=5122 |
| 23:25.16 | max_posedon | amd from dmesg it just look like neo powered off |
| 23:25.28 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: no difference, if not even device showing up |
| 23:25.50 | max_posedon | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.02 | max_posedon | ttyACM0 not counting? |
| 23:26.08 | DocScrutinizer | cdc_acm!!! |
| 23:26.17 | DocScrutinizer | not cdc_ether |
| 23:26.44 | max_posedon | doesn't cdc_ether enabled *only* after booting linux kernel + g_ether? |
| 23:27.01 | DocScrutinizer | yup, you're probably right |
| 23:28.14 | max_posedon | (for me it looks like) http://pastebin.ca/1399009 |
| 23:28.31 | max_posedon | I just think that PierreN's neo just poweroff-ed in 10sec |
| 23:28.59 | max_posedon | and my neo do the same (poweroff in ~8sec, if nobody touch u-boot) |
| 23:30.31 | DocScrutinizer | yup for uboot it looks like that |
| 23:30.43 | DocScrutinizer | see my first comment: |
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| 23:30.52 | DocScrutinizer | [ 1407.860461] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 21 |
| 23:32.39 | max_posedon | PierreN, and don't look at lsusb, you won't find neo there, even after booted linux where you conntected via ssh. |
| 23:34.55 | DocScrutinizer | duh? Bus 002 Device 044: ID 1457:5122 First International Computer, Inc. OpenMoko Neo1973 kernel cdc_ether USB network |
| 23:35.52 | DocScrutinizer | wonders how to and when finally kick out the FIC(C) here |
| 23:35.56 | max_posedon | hm.... I don't see anything in lsusb, and have usb0 wake up |
| 23:36.24 | DocScrutinizer | quite strange |
| 23:36.42 | DocScrutinizer | where should it have gone? |
| 23:36.54 | max_posedon | you asks me?!) |
| 23:36.59 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 23:37.13 | max_posedon | you know, since usb network works, I don't care) |
| 23:37.19 | DocScrutinizer | as it's your lsusb that's ignoring the FR |
| 23:37.32 | max_posedon | http://pastebin.ca/1399017 |
| 23:37.34 | PierreN | ok |
| 23:38.05 | PierreN | well i'm trying to come to a proper installation of OM2008.12 and u boot and kernel |
| 23:38.20 | PierreN | to see were does the problem come from |
| 23:38.36 | DocScrutinizer | PierreN: go for SHR instead, I'd recommend |
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| 23:38.58 | PierreN | yeah |
| 23:39.09 | PierreN | well i got this error while installing shr |
| 23:39.36 | max_posedon | which one? |
| 23:39.37 | DocScrutinizer | it's a uboot issue not related to rootfs |
| 23:39.49 | PierreN | shr is for the moment the best distro i tried... except this error |
| 23:39.57 | DocScrutinizer | you need to keep uboot alive |
| 23:40.18 | DocScrutinizer | by pressing AUX every now and then |
| 23:40.26 | PierreN | ow |
| 23:40.30 | DocScrutinizer | what error??? |
| 23:40.48 | DocScrutinizer | this error [ 1407.860461] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 21 |
| 23:40.57 | DocScrutinizer | isn't related to rootfs!"! |
| 23:40.59 | PierreN | you mean i can't connect to ssh when openmoko is up ? (have to stay at boot menu ?) |
| 23:41.07 | PierreN | ok |
| 23:42.01 | DocScrutinizer | what did you do to produce this error? did you connect to uboot or did you plug in the cable after booting to om2008.12? |
| 23:42.16 | PierreN | just : where to find a /recent/ and /good/ Kernel and u boot image then please ? |
| 23:42.27 | DocScrutinizer | SHR |
| 23:42.44 | DocScrutinizer | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ |
| 23:43.03 | PierreN | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin ? |
| 23:43.14 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 23:43.24 | PierreN | 403 forbidden access ? |
| 23:43.35 | DocScrutinizer | and [ ] shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 for rootfs |
| 23:43.44 | DocScrutinizer | nah, not possible |
| 23:44.11 | PierreN | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin >> 403 forbidden access |
| 23:44.23 | DocScrutinizer | tsss |
| 23:44.26 | DocScrutinizer | mompl |
| 23:44.46 | PierreN | ok :-) |
| 23:45.02 | max_posedon | no any kernel |
| 23:45.04 | max_posedon | ) |
| 23:45.21 | DocScrutinizer | no kernel once again :-[ |
| 23:45.31 | DocScrutinizer | AINULINDALE!!!!! |
| 23:45.46 | DocScrutinizer | WHERE'S THE KERNEL??? |
| 23:45.47 | max_posedon | wrong channel) |
| 23:46.02 | DocScrutinizer | pff |
| 23:46.38 | PierreN | ow seems i pointed out a recurrent problem |
| 23:46.47 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 23:47.19 | max_posedon | actually uImage can be taken from rootfs |
| 23:47.33 | max_posedon | it live there in /boot |
| 23:47.38 | DocScrutinizer | eew, clumsy |
| 23:47.59 | DocScrutinizer | wait a minute |
| 23:48.14 | PierreN | well yeah with a proper kernel and jffs it works |
| 23:48.33 | PierreN | but does shr need a modified kernel ? |
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| 23:58.02 | DocScrutinizer | PierreN: look people.openmoko.org/home/joerg/public_html/shr-testing |
| 23:58.28 | DocScrutinizer | wait another 60sec, it's still uploading |
| 23:58.53 | DocScrutinizer | ok, now |