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| 00:50.38 | Digital_Pioneer | OK, bluetooth doesn't work yet. What exactly do I have to do to turn it on? I've got the headset paired, BT chip on, and I set bt-headset-address and bt-headset-enabled in opreferences/conf/phone/default.yaml |
| 00:50.41 | Digital_Pioneer | What else is there? |
| 00:51.01 | ndnihil | power the bt module on? |
| 00:51.23 | ndnihil | well, I guess you already did that if you paired |
| 00:51.42 | ndnihil | I tried earlier and couldnt get it to work either |
| 00:55.29 | Digital_Pioneer | Hmm. |
| 00:55.52 | Digital_Pioneer | There must be some step that actually tells FSO (I assume) to use BT... |
| 01:05.33 | Digital_Pioneer | ndnihil: Did you try a new statefile? |
| 01:05.48 | Digital_Pioneer | ndnihil: Did you get a new ALSA statefile for bluetooth? |
| 01:06.22 | ndnihil | I just did that was in that last section of the wiki |
| 01:06.34 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah. |
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| 01:06.43 | Digital_Pioneer | You would've downloaded my statefile then probably. |
| 01:07.21 | ndnihil | gsmbluetooth.state? |
| 01:07.48 | ndnihil | I grabbed that one |
| 01:11.52 | Digital_Pioneer | yeah. |
| 01:12.08 | Digital_Pioneer | Does SOMEONE know what it is in the statefile that reroutes the earpiece to bluetooth? |
| 01:12.14 | Digital_Pioneer | Because I think it doesn't work. |
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| 02:27.00 | slaxxer | yea |
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| 02:28.44 | slaxxer | fso-unstable-paroli 20090419 |
| 02:31.43 | BillK | Digital_Pioneer: "Does SOMEONE know what it is in the statefile that reroutes the earpiece to bluetooth?" |
| 02:31.51 | BillK | is more complicated than you might think |
| 02:32.15 | BillK | I am not using a special bluetooth alsa file for BT |
| 02:33.06 | BillK | but giving mplayer the argument ao = alsa:device=bluetooth |
| 02:33.12 | BillK | in .mplayer.conf |
| 02:33.24 | BillK | works for a2dp bt headset |
| 02:33.43 | BillK | s/.mplayer.conf/.mplayer/conf/ |
| 02:43.58 | Digital_Pioneer | BillK: I've already done that. I want to use bluetooth for GSM. |
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| 02:57.11 | slaxxer | cool now instead of just dieing during upgrade navit is KILLED |
| 02:57.20 | slaxxer | yea |
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| 03:43.40 | BillK | Digital_Pioneer: k, thats on my todo list - interested when you solve it ! |
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| 03:53.38 | Digital_Pioneer | BillK: OK, I'll do my best. Let me know if you come up with anything. |
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| 06:42.21 | methril|work | morning |
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| 07:06.52 | rhaeder | morning all :) |
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| 07:07.17 | KenYoung | Good morning. |
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| 07:18.51 | DocScrutinizer | *yawn* |
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| 08:00.07 | nullix | hi all |
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| 08:01.27 | nullix | Yesterday night i got my wifi working. It seems there is no way to have a WPA-TKIP with hidden ESSID working, when i broadcast the ssid it works, if i hide it it don't. |
| 08:01.57 | viq | nullix: and why exactly do you want to hide your ESSID ? |
| 08:02.09 | viq | It _decreases_ your security, not increases it. |
| 08:02.48 | nullix | hiding essid decrease security ? interesting to know. Why ? |
| 08:02.54 | DocScrutinizer | nullix: yup, like viq said. And it's a known issue afaik |
| 08:03.49 | nullix | i though it increase security that's why it wa&s set up like this, and it was working with my other device ( eepc ) |
| 08:04.40 | viq | nullix: every frame transmitted has essid in it so to learn it you just need to listen. And when it is not hidden the WPA key is salted with it, not so when you hide it. |
| 08:05.10 | viq | So there is no real reason to hide it, and there are reasons not to hide it. |
| 08:05.18 | DocScrutinizer | (decrease security) e.g. as your client usually has to probe all known ESSIDs when trying to associate. So your privacy is severely getting worse |
| 08:05.19 | nullix | good, thanks for that. really interesting |
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| 08:06.26 | nullix | where are all those known issues ? |
| 08:06.36 | DocScrutinizer | also you easily might become victim of rogue APs |
| 08:06.50 | nullix | it seems i hit them one by one, then before ringing you again i would prefer to know them before |
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| 08:09.20 | nullix | each time i hit a new problem i learn something interesting :-) |
| 08:09.20 | nullix | viq DocScrutinizer thank for those comments. helpfull. |
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| 08:15.02 | DocScrutinizer | nullix: np. Anyway hiding ESSID is strongly deprecated for quite a number of reasons. Alas this rarely helps if you have to deal with AP doing that which you have no admin access to |
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| 08:15.52 | nullix | DocScrutinizer: fortunately it is not the case, i control my wifi access point |
| 08:16.04 | DocScrutinizer | :) |
| 08:16.29 | nullix | ( and i hope i am the only one :-) ) |
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| 08:17.00 | nullix | i should not mention i am working for a security company. i should know that. |
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| 08:45.46 | Feisar_ | Hi, Im updating my freerunners gsm firmware, just checking that 10 is the most recent stable release |
| 08:45.47 | Feisar_ | ? |
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| 08:52.07 | Psi | is there an option anywhere in the SHR gui to force fast charge? |
| 08:52.16 | Psi | on gta01 |
| 08:53.23 | dns53 | fast charge? i thaught that was based on the hardware |
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| 08:54.38 | Psi | it has to query the usb port to find out if it can handle the high current |
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| 08:57.26 | Psi | i wanna make a 1A 5v wallpack with usb plug on the end |
| 08:57.41 | Psi | then just click to force fast charge on the phone when its pluged in |
| 08:58.07 | dns53 | i'm just happy that this week i finally have a phone that suspends and actually resumes |
| 08:58.12 | Psi | gta02 has a system to detect resistors on a dumb usb port to determin if it can handle the current but i dont think gta01 can do that |
| 08:59.07 | dns53 | probably |
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| 09:13.34 | Arigead | shr-unstable I'm trying to setup USB as Host mode to take something off a USB Key. I remember setting this up in Settings before but now I've lost it. Has this functionality been removed? |
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| 09:16.43 | PaulFertser | Feisar_: 11 is |
| 09:17.11 | Psi | does 11 add anything important over 10? |
| 09:17.52 | PaulFertser | Psi: yes, quite so. |
| 09:19.01 | PaulFertser | Psi: there's a changelog. But basically it's hardware flow control support (esp. important for GTA01 users) and GPIO setting for resume on incoming call/message to always work properly. |
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| 09:21.09 | Psi | cool |
| 09:21.18 | PaulFertser | Psi: (fast charge switch) I think it's not implemented in FSO yet, so no SHR gui (unless you ask dos1 to add ad-hoc support ;) ) :( |
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| 09:22.02 | Psi | thanks |
| 09:22.53 | PaulFertser | Psi: if you're comfortable with Python, it'd be a matter of 30-60 minutes for you to prepare a patch for FSO. |
| 09:23.02 | Psi | heh |
| 09:23.08 | Psi | i know no python |
| 09:23.37 | Psi | does anyone know exactly how much damage it does to the battery when gta01 full discharges it |
| 09:26.11 | PaulFertser | Psi: not exactly an answer, more like a general interest site: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ (lots of information about various battery types) |
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| 10:14.29 | Arigead | Sorry people me again I'm really struggling with setting usb host mode. The wiki documents using "echo host > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode" but that file doesn't exist on the latest shr-testing which I've just downloaded |
| 10:16.34 | Arigead | Found it /sys/devices/platform/s3c-ohci/usb_mode |
| 10:29.02 | tig| | Agrajag-: isn't there an option on the Connectivity Page of the Settings program? |
| 10:29.20 | tig| | Sorry that should have been to Arigead |
| 10:32.58 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07opimd * re945a1ff12ca 10libframeworkd-glib/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:32.58 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: opimd: add wrappers fro sources interface |
| 10:32.58 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> |
| 10:32.59 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07opimd * raae989c07be4 10libframeworkd-glib/src/ (frameworkd-glib-dbus.c frameworkd-glib-dbus.h): |
| 10:32.59 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: dbus: const correctnes for connect_to_interface |
| 10:33.03 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> |
| 10:33.05 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07opimd * r8176de3c87f0 10libframeworkd-glib/src/opimd/ (2 files): |
| 10:33.07 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: opimd/contacts: keep the DBusGProxy for queries |
| 10:33.09 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: This is needed, because opimd remembers the query cursor |
| 10:33.11 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: for each client connection... |
| 10:33.13 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> |
| 10:33.15 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07opimd * r9c43c1aa4116 10libframeworkd-glib/src/opimd/ (frameworkd-glib-opimd-dbus.c frameworkd-glib-opimd-dbus.h): |
| 10:33.18 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: opimd/sources: add missing dbus connect functions |
| 10:33.20 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> |
| 10:33.22 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07opimd * r32aca2c5a5c4 10libframeworkd-glib/src/opimd/dbus/ (contacts.h contacts.xml): |
| 10:33.27 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: opimd/contacts: implement GetMultipleResults |
| 10:33.29 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> |
| 10:33.31 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07opimd * r8abecf8adf5e 10libframeworkd-glib/src/opimd/frameworkd-glib-opimd-contacts.c: |
| 10:33.34 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: opimd/contacts: fix messages/contacts typo and add missing cast |
| 10:33.36 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> |
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| 11:03.02 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: i've read the source and it looks like frameworkd communicates with bluetoothd every 10 seconds and when it finally sees the headset, it writes some messages to log. Why it doesn't work for you requires more debugging (at least check if there're any bluetooth-related messages in the log). |
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| 11:29.14 | Feisar | how do I restart enlightenment from the terminal? |
| 11:29.58 | Derick | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.05 | Feisar | thanks |
| 11:31.43 | Feisar | Whenever I try to close the clock gadget in shr thought the giu E crashes, how can I do it from the terminal? |
| 11:32.08 | Derick | do what? |
| 11:32.22 | Feisar | close the clock gadget |
| 11:32.27 | Feisar | im new to E |
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| 11:39.11 | dns53 | not really possible, you could delete your .e directory and start again |
| 11:41.02 | Feisar | ok cheers |
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| 12:51.53 | Digital_Pioneer | Feisar: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart |
| 12:52.03 | Digital_Pioneer | Feisar: Or killall -HUP enlightenment |
| 12:52.05 | Digital_Pioneer | Your choice. |
| 12:52.37 | Digital_Pioneer | BRB, nVidia is screwing up as usual. |
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| 12:57.06 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: btw, i tried nodm restart several times from the FR itself, wasn't very pleased with the result (the script was killed after loosing terminal and X never came back until i got home). |
| 12:57.32 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: so probably nohup or screen should be used. |
| 12:57.41 | Digital_Pioneer | PaulFertser: Interesting. I can't restart frameworkd and you can't restart X. |
| 12:58.05 | Digital_Pioneer | http://xkcd.com/571/ :) |
| 12:58.13 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: i can restart X if i'm cautious enough, i guess. |
| 12:58.22 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheh |
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| 12:58.47 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: seen my messages wrt bluetooth? |
| 12:58.56 | Digital_Pioneer | Haven't checked yet. |
| 12:59.19 | Digital_Pioneer | Which log does it go to? dmesg or syslog? Some other one? |
| 12:59.23 | Digital_Pioneer | frameworkd.log? |
| 13:00.11 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: it depends on the configuration. IIRC on SHR frameworkd uses syslog. |
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| 13:00.35 | PaulFertser | Sorry, got to go. |
| 13:00.52 | Digital_Pioneer | OK |
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| 14:02.34 | soul9 | hi |
| 14:02.43 | soul9 | anyone had any luck compiling the qemu port? |
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| 15:07.03 | qknight | i use shr |
| 15:07.20 | qknight | can i somehow disable the gps module from going to suspend? |
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| 15:07.40 | max_posedon | settings |
| 15:07.54 | max_posedon | gps - Auto->Manual - Off->On |
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| 15:08.40 | qknight | max_posedon: ah cool |
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| 15:33.56 | beer_ | hi |
| 15:33.57 | beer_ | did something interested happening today |
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| 15:46.35 | awwaiid | is it my imagination, or does FSO not handle SMS messages with an image? |
| 15:48.30 | alphaone | awwaiid: image? |
| 15:48.46 | alphaone | that would be mms messages? |
| 15:48.59 | awwaiid | sure |
| 15:50.05 | awwaiid | though for some reason I thought that there was some non-mms photo mechanism in sms. but that makes no sense now that I say it aloud |
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| 15:51.27 | Digital_Pioneer | awwaiid: Since SMS can only take transmissions of ~160 bytes (unless I'm mistaken, which is quite possible) I doubt there is any actual transmission of JPEGs or whatever it be over that protocol. |
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| 15:51.55 | awwaiid | indeed |
| 15:52.43 | mjr | 140 bytes |
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| 15:52.56 | awwaiid | so now that I know to search for mms instead of sms, I am finding that openmoko doesn't do mms? |
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| 15:52.59 | SpeedEvil | IIRC the minimum size of a JPEG is under 140 bytes |
| 15:53.07 | mjr | (160 characters using a 7-bit charset |
| 15:53.11 | SpeedEvil | (but that's largely irrelevant) |
| 15:53.15 | Weiss | there's that thing where you include a code and the phone displays a little icon |
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| 15:54.09 | awwaiid | I ask because people send me images and I have yet to figure out how to view them :) |
| 15:54.17 | awwaiid | or how to even get their binary data from FSO |
| 15:55.02 | PierreN | hi |
| 15:55.32 | awwaiid | maybe I just need to write my own listener for the IncomingMessage signal. I'll try that. |
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| 15:59.21 | Blu3 | awwaiid, im trying to do that too |
| 15:59.43 | Blu3 | in shr, i'm needing to edit sms.py |
| 16:00.37 | Blu3 | instead of decoding the binary data, it just assigns it a line of static text; ~ "This message is binary" |
| 16:01.07 | awwaiid | yeah. I'd rather it pass it on :) |
| 16:02.04 | Blu3 | i need to figure out how to decode it |
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| 17:19.02 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r151bd77f10c4 10/libfsoframework/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: add NullLogger |
| 17:19.03 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfd2adc41d789 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/common.vala: |
| 17:19.03 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: fsoframework: set NullLogger as default logger. log_to = none (or omitting log_to completely) also uses the |
| 17:19.03 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: NullLogger from now on |
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| 17:19.06 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * reba8a4648e2e 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/transport.vala: fsoframework: transport: fix detection for IN and HUP conditions |
| 17:19.11 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-term * r93508cc61208 10/ (configure.ac src/main.vala src/reader.vala src/terminal.vala): |
| 17:19.12 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: improve shutdown handling |
| 17:19.14 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: this is version 0.1.0.0 |
| 17:19.18 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-monitord * r477f2a96c709 10/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): reintroduce check for vala version; yank ChangeLog |
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| 17:29.13 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r5301c124b3c8 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/transport.vala: fsoframework: check whether delegate is actually set before calling it |
| 17:31.29 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * raf1b80c7ded0 10/ (ChangeLog configure.ac gsm0710mux/transport.vala): |
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| 17:31.30 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: this is version 0.3.4 |
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| 17:47.19 | xXDuffmanXx_ | hi wir die bande, duff brauerei suchen noch aktive member bei intresse pls pm me... |
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| 18:11.06 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * r4789f2ada3e9 10/framework/subsystems/otimed/otimed.py: otimed: more work |
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| 19:28.47 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-term * r7e9b56e861f0 10/src/ (main.vala terminal.vala): remove two warnings |
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| 20:23.22 | rhaeder | hi. I cannot build fso testing image |
| 20:23.27 | rhaeder | here is the output: http://rafb.net/p/VpY6Oe89.html |
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| 20:29.45 | bernt | rhaeder: you could try to edit conf/local.conf and set GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = "en_US.UTF-8" |
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| 20:33.50 | rhaeder | bernt: when it works, I add it to the matching Talk page in wiki |
| 20:37.20 | bernt | rhaeder: 3 days ago, I tried to build images with fso-makefile, and I was only able to compile something in fso-milestone5. Some errors I removed, but not all so that I did not get the final image. |
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| 20:43.36 | rhaeder | still failing to build the same package :/ |
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| 20:50.20 | rhaeder | doh? temporary failures??? |
| 20:52.08 | rhaeder | now it fails on ta_IN |
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| 20:52.19 | rhaeder | before on kw_GB |
| 20:53.38 | rhaeder | it said ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "1" needs to be set, too |
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| 20:57.31 | rhaeder | need to go to bed, bye |
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