| 00:04.20 | re-peat | 2007 did |
| 00:04.34 | vsr | what wm it got now? |
| 00:04.44 | re-peat | depends on the image honestly |
| 00:04.56 | vsr | could you specify? |
| 00:05.00 | re-peat | shr uses e |
| 00:05.05 | vsr | e17, metacity? |
| 00:05.14 | vsr | e17? isnt that slow? |
| 00:05.29 | vsr | how much processor speed has open moko? |
| 00:05.30 | re-peat | illume |
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| 00:05.48 | vsr | repeat: do you have a screen shot? |
| 00:05.59 | vsr | re-peat: screen shot? |
| 00:06.30 | re-peat | http://scap.linuxtogo.org |
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| 00:08.19 | vsr | re-peat: great |
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| 00:10.18 | vsr | re-peat: does e got rotation? |
| 00:10.27 | vsr | i mean potrait and landscape? |
| 00:11.40 | raster | vsr: e17 slow? |
| 00:12.30 | vsr | thats what i felt |
| 00:13.28 | re-peat | dont talk ill about rasters precious |
| 00:13.36 | vsr | raster: i have some serious performance issues |
| 00:13.50 | re-peat | :D |
| 00:14.22 | rooly1 | looks left |
| 00:14.25 | rooly1 | looks right |
| 00:14.30 | rooly1 | changes his nick |
| 00:14.54 | rooly | ducks before things start flying |
| 00:14.58 | vsr | raster: i will try again and let you know, in about 4 hours ill build a new e17 image from latest svn and see |
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| 00:16.36 | raster | vsr: what performance problems? |
| 00:16.41 | vsr | raster: e on openmoko looks really nice, can we add a taskbar to illume |
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| 00:17.17 | raster | vsr: feel free to write one |
| 00:17.28 | raster | (there is no room for a taskbar on suhc a tiny screen) |
| 00:17.42 | raster | thats what the arrows left/right are for for flipping apps |
| 00:17.45 | raster | home icon to go home |
| 00:17.50 | vsr | raster: when i click, i feel that it takes long for an app to appear |
| 00:17.54 | raster | launchign the same app just activates its existing window |
| 00:18.14 | vsr | raster: i know it might now be e the culprit |
| 00:18.35 | vsr | sorry not e the culprit, may be something else that is causing the delay |
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| 00:18.55 | raster | the left button un the shelf is a "task switcher" |
| 00:19.07 | vsr | okay |
| 00:19.13 | raster | brings up a list of active windows |
| 00:19.17 | raster | but u have a tiny screen |
| 00:19.22 | raster | u cant stick a taskbar there |
| 00:19.30 | re-peat | lightbulb |
| 00:19.32 | raster | these things have to be hidden away in other places |
| 00:19.41 | re-peat | howbout instead of left right buttons |
| 00:19.50 | re-peat | you drag the bar left/right |
| 00:19.57 | vsr | raster: kind of potrait/landscape feature? |
| 00:20.19 | re-peat | and you could see the diff desktops/apps wipe bye |
| 00:20.30 | vsr | is what im looking for |
| 00:20.41 | re-peat | xrander -o left? |
| 00:20.55 | vsr | cause some apps like claws mail dont appear properly on my screen |
| 00:21.00 | rooly | raster, question. you wouldn't happen to know where the largest bottleneck in the fr is, would you |
| 00:21.00 | raster | vsr: e has a screen config dialog |
| 00:21.05 | raster | u can set rotation there if x allows it |
| 00:21.19 | rooly | between memory, disk, processing, and display |
| 00:21.40 | vsr | raster: you recommend illume |
| 00:22.10 | re-peat | rooly i'd think tha glamo io would be the main fall guy |
| 00:22.34 | re-peat | sdio bus |
| 00:23.37 | vsr | raster: i got to go now, i will be back, ill try to build a minimal e. i might need your help later |
| 00:23.45 | vsr | bye |
| 00:25.40 | rooly | gtfo |
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| 00:34.34 | Dave | unrooly |
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| 01:02.53 | hipitihop | anyone know if the Qwo keyboard can be positioned to the right of the screen instead of the left ? |
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| 01:21.57 | slaxxer | side flipping anybody |
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| 01:27.15 | Dave | pass |
| 01:27.15 | ndnihil | falls over and flops around |
| 01:28.30 | ndnihil | grab omnewrotate if you're asking about an app that will let you turn your phone and have the screen follow |
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| 01:28.43 | ndnihil | works pretty well |
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| 01:48.40 | slaxxer | whats wrong with a page flipping desktop seems a lot easier to deal with |
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| 02:05.16 | acidchild | Blackberry or OpenMoko, OpenMoko or Blackberry |
| 02:05.23 | acidchild | the question one asks ones self. |
| 02:06.47 | acidchild | is the phone fully working for end users now? |
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| 02:18.55 | mwester | acidchild: no |
| 02:29.38 | hipitihop | ndnihil: you mention omnewrotate where is that, opkg.org only seems to mention accel-rotate |
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| 02:53.20 | hipitihop | ndnihil: never mind, found it |
| 02:54.41 | losinggeneration | haha, looks like suspend/resume is on the right track to working good (so far so good for me at least) |
| 02:55.13 | losinggeneration | is pretty happy about that |
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| 03:47.39 | *** topic/#openmoko is Newsflash: Openmoko puts further phone models on ice, support for present models continues with limited forces | Users of Openmoko Hardware | Developers, please join#openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org/ | Before asking read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 04:34.47 | fredrin | gah, unstable internet |
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| 05:09.42 | fredrin | how long does it take to get my data into the he openBmap db? |
| 05:10.36 | re-peat | i still need to register an account |
| 05:10.51 | re-peat | thats a cool program eh? |
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| 05:11.16 | fredrin | i did |
| 05:11.20 | fredrin | and uploaded my logs |
| 05:11.28 | fredrin | and got an ok back for the upload |
| 05:11.32 | re-peat | wireless econnaissance |
| 05:11.34 | fredrin | but can't display the data |
| 05:11.37 | fredrin | on the web |
| 05:11.39 | re-peat | r |
| 05:11.42 | fredrin | or can't see them |
| 05:13.10 | re-peat | give it some time |
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| 05:15.32 | playya | fredrin, is the package on opkg a daemon to log data or only a viewer? |
| 05:15.47 | fredrin | playya: a program |
| 05:15.52 | fredrin | you must start it and let it run |
| 05:16.01 | fredrin | then it collects data |
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| 05:19.03 | fredrin | re-peat: how long do i have to wait for the data to show up? |
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| 05:55.07 | re-peat | fredrin: and i would know because? |
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| 05:56.33 | fredrin | :) |
| 05:57.26 | re-peat | i cant even get a frigen image to build |
| 05:59.03 | fredrin | me neither, but maybe i'll give it another try today |
| 05:59.18 | fredrin | either my laptop dies or the compiler |
| 05:59.45 | re-peat | its not like compiling openwrt or rockbox |
| 06:00.28 | fredrin | openmoko should have build machines that you could use |
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| 06:07.39 | jc | fredrin: bulid machine for building ? |
| 06:08.00 | fredrin | jc: hmm |
| 06:08.01 | re-peat | just ignore it |
| 06:08.07 | ndnihil | why would they have build machines for everyone to use? |
| 06:08.10 | ndnihil | waste of resources |
| 06:08.20 | fredrin | for the comunity |
| 06:08.26 | ndnihil | boot the leenooks, and install the toolchain |
| 06:08.39 | fredrin | not open access, but for some people that do work and don't have so much power |
| 06:08.45 | re-peat | i have a build machine you want a shell? |
| 06:08.46 | fredrin | then you could use the neo to developon |
| 06:09.12 | ndnihil | er |
| 06:09.13 | ndnihil | huh? |
| 06:09.14 | fredrin | re-peat: :) |
| 06:09.28 | ndnihil | if you have a FR, you already have one you can develop on |
| 06:09.44 | ndnihil | setting one up halfway across the world for you to develop on doesnt make much sense |
| 06:09.50 | fredrin | i'm doing it now, but i'm just playing with a webserver |
| 06:10.06 | re-peat | what like use the sd card for space |
| 06:10.13 | re-peat | biggest one i have is 2GB |
| 06:10.19 | ndnihil | I'm almost afraid to ask what a webserver has to do with it |
| 06:10.23 | fredrin | you can have 16 |
| 06:10.37 | ndnihil | wanders back to whatever he was doing |
| 06:11.26 | re-peat | opkg upgrade & echo pray |
| 06:11.34 | fredrin | ndnihil: :) |
| 06:12.18 | jc | fredrin: you might want to send mail to Angus, he is managing distributioin right now. |
| 06:13.41 | fredrin | jc: k, but i don't need a build machine right now, slow internet is even a bigger issue, but maybe in the future |
| 06:13.53 | fredrin | right now i'm just playing with a python webserver on the neo |
| 06:13.59 | fredrin | don't need to build anything |
| 06:14.48 | jc | fredrin: slow internet for openmoko server? |
| 06:14.56 | fredrin | for me |
| 06:15.26 | fredrin | eh, never mind |
| 06:15.38 | jc | fredrin: where are you living? I might check that. |
| 06:15.46 | fredrin | uruguay |
| 06:15.49 | fredrin | right now |
| 06:16.22 | jc | openmoko's website and others currently co-locate in germany. |
| 06:18.35 | fredrin | ok |
| 06:19.46 | jc | fredrin: do you think if the website in US could help? |
| 06:20.17 | fredrin | jc: but i don't need a webserver |
| 06:20.51 | fredrin | i'm playing with a webserver on the neo, i think it could be nice to have a webserver fitted for the neo |
| 06:21.02 | fredrin | like where you could access it over lan wifi |
| 06:21.06 | fredrin | and share stuff |
| 06:21.10 | fredrin | like at work or at friends |
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| 06:22.22 | jc | fredrin: a web server on neo, sounds great. |
| 06:23.41 | fredrin | this http://sourceforge.net/projects/snakelets |
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| 06:27.26 | re-peat | brainbleach |
| 06:27.31 | re-peat | i need some |
| 06:28.04 | fredrin | eh |
| 06:28.13 | fredrin | beer? |
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| 06:41.15 | re-peat | maximus confusionous |
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| 08:10.40 | sebbs | i dropped my moko on asphalt today |
| 08:11.20 | mirko-paroli | sebbs: did it survive ? |
| 08:11.22 | sebbs | still did not break, ive dropped it like 102389102 times (i have motorskill issues). just amazes me that it has not broken yet. but it made me think that openmoko should have a backup tool |
| 08:11.26 | sebbs | mirko-paroli: yes |
| 08:11.30 | mirko-paroli | nice |
| 08:11.37 | sebbs | yea :) |
| 08:11.49 | henk | it's pretty robust i must say too :) |
| 08:11.58 | sebbs | yeah i am impressed |
| 08:12.02 | sebbs | only thing is the back shell thing |
| 08:12.09 | henk | at least compared to a nokia phone which once dropped looks like shit |
| 08:12.26 | sebbs | the old nokia you can drop alot. (i know from experience |
| 08:12.28 | sebbs | ;) |
| 08:13.21 | sebbs | i have alot of stuff on my phone, i think im gonna try to make some sort of automated backup solution |
| 08:13.39 | sebbs | problem as i see it that when the phone goes into hibernate cron does not run |
| 08:13.43 | henk | it will still work, but it will look like shit... |
| 08:13.45 | sebbs | (atleast not from my testing) |
| 08:13.51 | sebbs | henk: ^^ hehe |
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| 08:29.38 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: odeviced: Fix time and format problems in the RTC interface |
| 08:29.38 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: This fixes FSO bug #374 and brings the RTC interface in line with the |
| 08:29.38 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: spec. Also fixes the time offset some people (probably everyone not in |
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| 08:29.41 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: See http://docs.python.org/library/time.html for the different |
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| 08:58.22 | Psi | what was the name/website of that gta01/02 case thing i saw in Sean's powerpoint |
| 08:59.21 | Psi | nevermind, found it |
| 08:59.43 | Psi | damn, leather, ow well |
| 08:59.55 | Psi | maybe i can make one myself based on the design |
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| 09:26.42 | Psi | i dont think it really matters atm |
| 09:27.16 | Psi | when it goes mass market maybe they will call it a pda |
| 09:28.59 | tig| | well it is marketed as a smartphone which is a phone/pda hybrid |
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| 11:20.35 | PaulFertser | has just bought an airplane ticket to Dusseldorf, ~300EUR. Will get to FSOSHRUDCON (if only they give me a visa :-/) |
| 11:21.03 | PaulFertser | wonders if it's a wise move to do book some hotel at Essen without intent to pay or stay there... |
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| 11:21.24 | shellevil | visa? within the EU? |
| 11:21.29 | shellevil | or maybe /me is confused |
| 11:21.33 | shellevil | PaulFertser: |
| 11:21.36 | shellevil | sighs |
| 11:22.33 | PaulFertser | shellevil: if only i was within the EU... |
| 11:22.42 | bumbl | shellevil: russia != eu |
| 11:22.58 | shellevil | oh |
| 11:23.19 | bumbl | hmm well PaulFertser: how hard is it to get a visa? |
| 11:23.22 | PaulFertser | shellevil: yeah, we're not clever enough to integrate in EU :-/ |
| 11:23.25 | shellevil | Sorry - for some reason I thought you were in belgium. |
| 11:23.32 | bumbl | it is for "educational purposes" |
| 11:23.44 | shellevil | has no clue why. |
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| 11:24.50 | PaulFertser | bumbl: in theory it's not hard; but i might get a refusal without any explanation whatsoever. Moreover, i'm supposed to somehow "prove" my "accomodation" in Germany despite the fact that for me even forest is enough of accomodation and it can't confirm booking obviously. |
| 11:25.18 | shellevil | GPS of tree. |
| 11:25.44 | mokel | hi, when i send an email to the mailinglist and cc it to my adress i do not get the mail from the mailinglist. so i do only receive 1 copy, the one of the cc. is that behaviour normal? |
| 11:25.59 | bumbl | PaulFertser: well it might help if you book and stay in a cheap youth hostel if you can afford |
| 11:26.27 | bumbl | (300⬠flight for a few days are expensive though) |
| 11:26.47 | PaulFertser | bumbl: i'm going to stay there for 9 days. |
| 11:27.16 | PaulFertser | mokel: that's mailing list probably dropping you because you sent it yourself. |
| 11:27.18 | bumbl | ah so not only fsoshrducon |
| 11:27.48 | mokel | PaulFertser: mmh, i didnt know that the mailinglist is an intelligent one :) |
| 11:28.04 | mokel | but that should be the answer |
| 11:28.04 | PaulFertser | bumbl: want to fool around there for some time, yes. And i think i can afford a hotel but i won't do it because i like sleeping on the ground, not in some "comfortable" room. |
| 11:28.59 | PaulFertser | mokel: and btw beware, community mailing list _always_ _forges_ Reply-To: header. |
| 11:29.33 | mokel | i know |
| 11:29.48 | CIA-54 | openmoko: 03laforge * r4966 10/trunk/src/host/dfu-util/ (Makefile.am configure.ac doc/Makefile.am): make sure the manpage is installed during 'make install' (Michael Scherer) |
| 11:29.59 | PaulFertser | bumbl: do you know who was in contact with LinuxHotel.de? |
| 11:30.26 | bumbl | stefan_schmidt i think but i am not sure |
| 11:30.32 | PaulFertser | (probably they can send me fake booking proof) |
| 11:30.53 | mokel | the mailing list replaces the header so that cc's and other receipients aren't shown, right? |
| 11:31.20 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * r4e06384680d8 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ogsmd/networkdb: each network must have an MNC |
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| 11:31.44 | shellevil | PaulFertser: you can stay with me! :) |
| 11:31.49 | shellevil | (though UK, not DE) |
| 11:32.00 | PaulFertser | mokel: i guess community mailing list does two things: first, it adds/replace Reply-To header to a forged one; second, it drops those already subscribed from Cc. |
| 11:32.13 | mokel | ok |
| 11:32.15 | mokel | thanks |
| 11:32.31 | hipitihop | gestures hello at the the residents |
| 11:32.50 | mokel | another question: anyone knows where i can get the capacitor for the buzzfix in germany? i searched reichelt and conrad but could not find the right |
| 11:32.56 | PaulFertser | shellevil: It'd be very nice but unfortunately of no help as FSOSHRUDCON will take place in Essen, Germany :) |
| 11:33.04 | mokel | yesterday i had found one but is was minimal too big for the case |
| 11:33.20 | hipitihop | does anyone know if navit works well on shr unstable ? |
| 11:33.32 | PaulFertser | mokel: write an snailmail to Joerg, he'll mail the necessary parts (cap and R) back. |
| 11:33.48 | mokel | ok, thats what i did :) |
| 11:34.24 | mokel | but at the moment he is out of parts |
| 11:34.42 | DocScrutinizer | huh? |
| 11:35.13 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: morning :) |
| 11:35.16 | DocScrutinizer | don't think so |
| 11:35.18 | DocScrutinizer | o |
| 11:35.21 | DocScrutinizer | mooo |
| 11:35.56 | DocScrutinizer | mokel: send me a self addressed envelope! |
| 11:36.37 | mokel | where can i get your adress? |
| 11:36.40 | PaulFertser | mokel: or join one of the buzzfixing parties |
| 11:36.50 | gfather | PaulFertser hay m8 |
| 11:37.00 | PaulFertser | gfather: hey :) |
| 11:37.01 | gfather | somone aske dfor you @ openmoko-cdevel |
| 11:37.11 | gfather | *asked for you |
| 11:37.29 | mokel | PaulFertser: i have found a person who would fix it for me so its easier to get the parts |
| 11:38.31 | PaulFertser | gfather: can't see any pings, but thanks anyway :) |
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| 11:42.22 | max_posedon | PaulFertser, 300EUR it is with return ticket? |
| 11:43.00 | PaulFertser | max_posedon: sure |
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| 11:44.58 | PaulFertser | max_posedon: how much would it cost for you? |
| 11:47.09 | max_posedon | I don't know, year ago I have fly to frankfurt/main for 430EUR(luftphansa) |
| 11:47.45 | max_posedon | but it's expensive for me, payments in belarus different than in Moscow |
| 11:47.45 | bumbl_ | http://xkcd.com/350/ <- rofl |
| 11:49.06 | bumbl_ | hmm i am still searching someone who does the bugfix as it would be cheaper to buy a new nokia than to send in the neo or come to a bugfixparty in person |
| 11:50.15 | shellevil | where are you bumbl? |
| 11:52.44 | bumbl_ | shellevil: austria |
| 11:54.07 | bumbl_ | (it would be cheaper than flying |
| 11:54.08 | bumbl_ | ) |
| 11:56.21 | max_posedon | PaulFertser, I just check, basic prise 180EUR, but it isn't real cost. ( http://belavia.by/belru/reserv.htm ) |
| 11:57.10 | DocScrutinizer | bumbl_: nothing is cheaper than buying a new nokia (with contract) ;P |
| 11:57.20 | henk | max_posedon: where in austria are you? perhaps you know someone experienced in soldering? perhaps you know someone in the physics department of a near university? |
| 11:57.37 | max_posedon | henk, sorry, I'm from Belarus |
| 11:57.50 | henk | d'uh sorry... |
| 11:57.55 | henk | bumbl_: that was for you :) |
| 11:58.37 | PaulFertser | max_posedon: base here is also 194EUR... |
| 11:58.38 | bumbl_ | henk: the second moko user in town is off for >1,5 months |
| 11:58.42 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: max_posedon: you're considering to join fsoshrcon? |
| 11:59.10 | bumbl_ | DocScrutinizer: even without contract it would be cheaper if all one needs is telephony, sms, calendar |
| 11:59.25 | henk | bumbl_: i wasn't asking about other moko users ;) |
| 11:59.29 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: i've already bought a ticket. Hoping to get visa, but i'm afraid i'll need to provide some "proof" that i'll have a place to live there (and i want to stay from 22 May till 30 May). |
| 11:59.35 | bumbl_ | henk: well he works at university |
| 11:59.49 | max_posedon | DocScrutinizer, as for me, I'm still only thinking, but really want), but visa.... |
| 11:59.50 | DocScrutinizer | greeeeaaaAAAATT |
| 11:59.54 | DocScrutinizer | :))) |
| 12:00.03 | henk | bumbl_: ah that's not too bad then... so just wait 1.5 months, perhaps the software is usable too then 'g' |
| 12:00.18 | bumbl_ | henk: ;) |
| 12:00.49 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: I'll send an official invitation to you, if that helps |
| 12:00.53 | bumbl_ | s/is off/has been off/ |
| 12:01.33 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: Official invitation will definitely help, but i'm afraid its too much of a hassle (for you). And i still hope it's possible for LinuxHotel.de to send me a "fake" booking confirmation for the whole period... Need to ask Stefan to negotiate about it. |
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| 12:01.58 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: sure I'll do that if you need some |
| 12:02.02 | max_posedon | DocScrutinizer, can you also do it for me also? |
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| 12:02.24 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: np |
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| 12:04.10 | hipitihop | I have just tried to install navit on shr opkg install http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-current_armv4.opk and it complains about unsatisfied speechd and flite can someone advise ? |
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| 12:05.56 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: the problem with getting visa is that the process is highly non-uniform among different countries and non-transparent. One never knows what is really enough and what is not. :-/ |
| 12:06.25 | DocScrutinizer | for visa from Germany? hmm |
| 12:06.29 | SpeedEvil | I thought that in soviet russia, visa got you. |
| 12:06.31 | SpeedEvil | Sorry. |
| 12:06.42 | DocScrutinizer | maybe I can talk to them directly? |
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| 12:08.02 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: you might give me the tel# of the embasady you're contacting for the visa |
| 12:08.15 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: that's visa rules of Schengen countries, nothing specific to russia. |
| 12:08.59 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: i'm afraid it doesn't work that way. I guess i'll do some more research on the topic and will tell you my findings then :) |
| 12:09.08 | hipitihop | can someone please point me to speechd and flite packages |
| 12:09.09 | max_posedon | PaulFertser, no-no |
| 12:09.12 | max_posedon | it works!) |
| 12:09.24 | hipitihop | I'm trying to install navit on shr |
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| 12:09.40 | max_posedon | I 2 times get visa with to the Germany, and both times I haven't "paper invitation" |
| 12:10.08 | max_posedon | both times Germany company called to embassy, and it *really* helped |
| 12:10.33 | max_posedon | (just my expierence) |
| 12:10.38 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: well I'm not exactly a company, but anyway ... ;-D |
| 12:10.52 | DocScrutinizer | you're probably right |
| 12:11.58 | max_posedon | so, DocScrutinizer what kind of invitation you going to send? "private" or it will be invitation to the conference? |
| 12:12.06 | DocScrutinizer | whatever you think will be appropriate. maybe both? |
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| 12:12.46 | DocScrutinizer | I'd guess a private one usually is less problem than an "official" one |
| 12:13.22 | hipitihop | did the world just end we're the only one left on irc ? why did almost the netire list quit ? |
| 12:13.31 | SpeedEvil | server split |
| 12:13.50 | hipitihop | wow in all the years I've never seen it before |
| 12:14.05 | DocScrutinizer | duh, really? |
| 12:14.10 | SpeedEvil | You must either be very unobservant, or extremely lucky. |
| 12:14.19 | hipitihop | thinks "once again, you learn something every day" |
| 12:14.44 | hipitihop | trust me I'm pretty observant... so it must be luck |
| 12:14.47 | DocScrutinizer | I got 304 users here, and "quiet earth" syndrome isn't that unusual |
| 12:14.50 | DocScrutinizer | ;) |
| 12:15.19 | hipitihop | contemplates buying a lottery ticket |
| 12:15.51 | DocScrutinizer | hipitihop: I have one for you ;-) |
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| 12:16.10 | hipitihop | then realises he has once again demonstrated his noobness to the community |
| 12:16.45 | hipitihop | DocScrutinizer: sure, how much ? ;-) |
| 12:17.29 | DocScrutinizer | hipitihop: with warranty *one* of us both is winning some money ;D |
| 12:18.14 | hipitihop | DocScrutinizer: :-) that's a sure bet |
| 12:18.22 | hipitihop | I'd still like my navit dependencies sorted though |
| 12:19.03 | DocScrutinizer | yup! ;P I'd even share all the money with you 50/50 no matter wgho's winning |
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| 12:19.31 | Zoup | any idea what is this ProjectB thing? |
| 12:19.52 | SpeedEvil | It's clearly a cream-cracker holder. |
| 12:20.03 | DocScrutinizer | yup, but mustn't talk about. And isn't a topic for this channel anyway |
| 12:20.12 | Zoup | hahaaha :) |
| 12:20.20 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: it's not running any OM related stuff? |
| 12:20.24 | Zoup | Boohahahaha :)) |
| 12:20.26 | hipitihop | SpeedEvil: you'll have to educate us aussies here as to what a cream cracker is exactly |
| 12:20.32 | SpeedEvil | Umm. |
| 12:20.49 | SpeedEvil | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cream_cracker |
| 12:21.22 | Zoup | it looks like kind of 'reader' thing |
| 12:21.25 | max_posedon | PaulFertser, plz notify me, if/when you find some info about linuxhotel.de |
| 12:21.37 | PaulFertser | max_posedon: ok :) |
| 12:21.55 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: huh? what about the URL? |
| 12:22.25 | DocScrutinizer | what kind of nfo? |
| 12:22.30 | DocScrutinizer | Info |
| 12:22.33 | max_posedon | I don't mean url, I mean, does they can send some confirmation about reservation |
| 12:22.39 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: whether they can send a "fake" booking "proof" or not. |
| 12:22.52 | max_posedon | I even agry for non-fake) |
| 12:22.56 | DocScrutinizer | should I contact them to ask? |
| 12:23.07 | max_posedon | Will be *really* nice. |
| 12:23.23 | DocScrutinizer | just a phonecall for me to find out I guess |
| 12:23.44 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: there's no fake in that |
| 12:24.32 | max_posedon | I think conf invitation+smth that proof booking hotel will be enough |
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| 12:24.44 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: please take into account that i'm not going to really stay at linuxhotel (except paying my part for conference, of course). I'm going to visit the conference and then fool around for a week (till 30) staying in some campings. For visa they require booking reservation for the whole period (for me it's 22-30 May). |
| 12:24.53 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: PaulFertser : please send me detail (your address etc pp) via PM |
| 12:25.23 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: ok, thanks a lot in advance! :) |
| 12:25.53 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: nope. No camping for you ;) you have to stay in my attik for the whole period :P |
| 12:26.18 | PaulFertser | *hates* attics |
| 12:26.21 | hipitihop | SpeedEvil: aah, you mean a Sao |
| 12:26.24 | PaulFertser | Scary |
| 12:27.15 | DocScrutinizer | please also both of you include international telnr of ambassady you'll contact for the visa |
| 12:27.29 | DocScrutinizer | maybe plus name of contact |
| 12:27.33 | SpeedEvil | shr: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ENGRAVED-RECTANGULAR-CURVE-SILVER-CUFF-LINKS_W0QQitemZ250402538637QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_JewelleryWatches_MensJewellery_Cufflinks?hash=item250402538637&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 might actually work |
| 12:27.35 | SpeedEvil | oops |
| 12:27.42 | DocScrutinizer | tztztz |
| 12:28.01 | max_posedon | DocScrutinizer, I'll do it (and describe all what I need) today at evening (CET+1) |
| 12:28.11 | DocScrutinizer | np |
| 12:28.32 | max_posedon | btw, DocScrutinizer do you understand that embassy usually prefer "paper" invitation? |
| 12:28.51 | DocScrutinizer | I'll give Linuxhotel an informational call right now then, to see what they can do |
| 12:28.52 | hipitihop | so, in totally poor channel form, I'll ask again, someone surely knows where I can get speechd package for shr |
| 12:28.52 | SpeedEvil | max_posedon: vellum I think. |
| 12:29.35 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: np, but it's much easier to get all this right the first time, if you talk to them prior to sending any fax etc |
| 12:30.00 | max_posedon | yes, thanks, I'll find as much info today as I can. |
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| 12:34.02 | Dave | :) |
| 12:34.10 | Dave | Hey rools |
| 12:35.19 | saracen | hipitihop: Use opkg? *guess* |
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| 12:38.48 | hipitihop | saracen: yes I'm using "opkg install ...." and hget unsatisfied recommendation : speechd & flite and then as gtk+-fastscaling as unsatisfied dependency |
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| 12:39.42 | spaetz | those navit packages depend on gtk+-fastscaling it seems |
| 12:39.47 | spaetz | they should just fix it |
| 12:40.51 | hipitihop | spaetz: what do you suggest ? |
| 12:41.46 | hipitihop | spaetz: zorry, not sure if this is something I can resolve, hence the question |
| 12:42.09 | spaetz | 1) have them fix their package, 2) override wrong dependencies with -force-depends or whatever |
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| 12:42.32 | spaetz | gtk+-fastscaling is just gtk+, really |
| 12:42.38 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: max_posedon: linuxhotel guy is absolutely ok with getting a text by PM and "cramming this on some official sheet of paper". Kind guy :-) |
| 12:43.14 | max_posedon | nice |
| 12:43.22 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: amazingly nice info. Thanks a lot! :))) |
| 12:44.30 | DocScrutinizer | I'd guess it's up to you creating a short english "invitation/reservation-confirmation" and send it either to linuxhotel directly, or to me to handle it |
| 12:45.11 | DocScrutinizer | probably best is to attach it to the info-PM you're going to send to me |
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| 12:46.32 | DocScrutinizer | You both talked to Ainu/Stephan wrt "seats" (>>we have 20...<<)? |
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| 12:48.00 | max_posedon | as for me - I don't(will do soon), is it a big problem if number will be little bit bigger? |
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| 12:48.10 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: max_posedon: ATM there are 18 ppl listed for participation on http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/FSOSHRUDCON'09 |
| 12:48.24 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: dunno |
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| 12:51.41 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: it was stated that some 24 will still be "ok". |
| 12:53.07 | mmp | hello; I'm using latest SHR unstable; is there any utility to lock the screen when pressing aux ? |
| 12:53.07 | DocScrutinizer | You're checking this with Ainu & stefan anyway |
| 12:53.18 | mmp | and also some way to enable display dimming |
| 12:53.26 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: sure, we do :) |
| 12:54.27 | DocScrutinizer | away (soon ;) |
| 12:55.29 | lord-carlos | spaetz: hey, i just joined the channel an saw that you were talking about gtk+-fastscaling, if i want to install Minimo (webbrowser) on SHR testing, it says gtk+-fastscaling is missing. Do you know how to resolve this problem? |
| 13:00.35 | spaetz | 14:42 < spaetz> 1) have them fix their package, 2) override wrong dependencies with -force-depends or whatever |
| 13:00.44 | spaetz | 14:42 < spaetz> gtk+-fastscaling is just gtk+, really |
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| 13:01.30 | spaetz | packages depending og gtk+-fastscaling are obsolete and broken, in my opinion |
| 13:02.10 | hipitihop | ok, simpler question... can someone tell me how to configure the desktop in shr. I only want a handful of apps |
| 13:02.41 | lord-carlos | yes, i installed it with -force-depends. ut now i can not zoom. But maybe there is something frong with the webbrowser. |
| 13:02.42 | lord-carlos | Thanks |
| 13:03.27 | |Marco| | mmp: screen-lock something.. I think |
| 13:04.14 | Weiss | spaetz: i would have to agree. i REALLY with gtk+-fastscaling would just die |
| 13:04.54 | |Marco| | It's in the shr-testing image.. but I haven't seen it in unstable |
| 13:07.02 | mmp | |Marco|: I don't even see it in unstable repos... |
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| 13:18.01 | |Marco| | mmp: someone was asking about the same thing a few day's ago to.. just can't remember what it was called |
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| 13:20.18 | mmp | |Marco|: I guess it doesn't matter, as opkg list |grep -i lock doesn't print anything useful :-/ |
| 13:21.39 | |Marco| | mmp: hrm.. donno if it'l work if you snatch it from the "testing" repo, but you can give it a trye |
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| 13:24.47 | mmp | |Marco|: btw, so far I found zedlock... |
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| 13:28.58 | |Marco| | mm |
| 13:29.32 | |Marco| | the only thing is that it might not cover the nav bar at the top, I don't know if that's right .. |
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| 13:32.05 | beer_ | http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/FSOSHRUDCON%2709 <- is there something semelar for Qt Extended Improved? |
| 13:32.39 | PaulFertser | beer_: lol |
| 13:33.01 | beer_ | I did not know that I was funny |
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| 13:33.39 | DocScrutinizer | waves |
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| 13:34.27 | DocScrutinizer | going for a beer |
| 13:34.39 | DocScrutinizer | ;) |
| 13:36.11 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: see you in the evening :) |
| 13:36.35 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 13:38.51 | PaulFertser | Hey, anyone can test whether usb hostmode works with the latest SHR-unstable kernel? |
| 13:39.03 | PaulFertser | And FYI, bluetooth should be working again there, yay! |
| 13:39.50 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: latest ? I have 6 Apr need more recent ? |
| 13:40.42 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: today (right now, even pkg-index is not regenerated yet) |
| 13:41.04 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: I can flash just kernel right ? |
| 13:41.06 | DocScrutinizer | @all, alphaone: Joerg aka DocScrutinizer buzzfix component outlet stores refilled :) |
| 13:41.14 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: yes |
| 13:41.28 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: also untar kernel modules! |
| 13:41.52 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: Iquestion 2: "Buetooth should be..." does that mean bluetooth headset pairing for calls ? |
| 13:42.41 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: just to confirm, http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr119783+901d73fe51f33032b34b2ae5612eb863ec90532a-r3.1-om-gta02.bin |
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| 13:43.02 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: headset pairing was working for quite some time (months?), see the last method on wiki. It was kernel that didn't load internal usb controller (to which bluetooth is attached) properly. |
| 13:44.06 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: I had missed that. I saw people pair, but never seen confirm that paired headset worked for phone calls |
| 13:44.25 | alphaone | DocScrutinizer: :-) |
| 13:44.28 | alphaone | Great |
| 13:44.52 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: it is supposed to work, just not too many people tried it properly. The instructions are on the wiki (the latest method, described by DigitalPioneer). |
| 13:45.31 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: yes, looks like that image is what you need. |
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| 13:47.25 | saracen | Who the hell came up with the idea for this predictive key layout in qte? |
| 13:48.16 | saracen | Theres absolutely no puncutation at all. I know the "cool" kids like to be as cryptic as possible, but how the hell am I suppose to ask a question when theres no question mark?! |
| 13:50.16 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: ok, new kernel flashed. At least it boots ;-) |
| 13:52.08 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: if you have a cable to test usb hostmode, it'd be nice to know the result of this one too. |
| 13:53.24 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: not sure what device I have to support host mode though |
| 13:54.07 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: usb mass storage device? |
| 13:55.05 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: yes, have external USB hardisk but no micro usb cable or adaptor |
| 13:56.39 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: I also have a cowon A2 which supports host mode, never tried to use it in that mode though and no idea where the cable at the moment. |
| 13:57.07 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: I'm not much help at the mo |
| 13:57.31 | PaulFertser | hipitihop: no problem. Testing bluetooth headset is still appreciated ;) |
| 13:59.22 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: heh, haven't been able to use it for months.. recharging now. I'll give it a go in the morning if I get a chance |
| 13:59.25 | ndnihil | <-- trying a moto h500 bt headset |
| 13:59.32 | ndnihil | as per the wiki instructions |
| 14:00.19 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * rd461e19430de 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): update network data |
| 14:00.25 | hipitihop | PaulFertser: mine is a Jawbone |
| 14:00.45 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: the latest one, called "another try" and requiring bluez4, recent FSO, rules.yaml modification etc. |
| 14:01.39 | PaulFertser | away trying to understand bouldering. CU |
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| 14:08.24 | bumbl | ~seen ecraven |
| 14:08.26 | apt | ecraven <n=nex@140.78.42.103> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 84d 18m 48s ago, saying: 'something's wrong with my face, i can *either* talk into the microphone, so other people hear me, *or* bring the neo to my ear, so i can hear what they say.. i never succeed in doing both..'. |
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| 14:08.35 | Gras | hi |
| 14:08.47 | Gras | does anyone know where the gprs configuration file is? |
| 14:09.13 | max_posedon | Gras, in shr? |
| 14:09.22 | Gras | i'm trying to ad a network but i can't type in the screen when i need to input |
| 14:09.50 | Gras | shr? |
| 14:09.53 | Gras | where is that |
| 14:10.02 | Gras | i'm now logged in with adb |
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| 14:10.42 | max_posedon | oh, for android releated quesions I suggest you #android-freerunner (or #freerunner-android) |
| 14:11.00 | Gras | ah tnx |
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| 14:27.55 | beer_ | is fdom-project dead? |
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| 15:10.33 | lord-carlos | how can i compile somethink for the openmoko? Because it does not know the commad make. |
| 15:10.50 | lord-carlos | should cross compile it with my debian computer? |
| 15:11.55 | henk | lord-carlos: cross-compiling should work, you can setup an emulated native environment with qemu |
| 15:12.21 | lord-carlos | :0 |
| 15:12.26 | henk | so either cross-compiling on i386 (or whatever) or emulate an arm on i386 |
| 15:12.26 | lord-carlos | is that the only way? |
| 15:12.34 | lord-carlos | ah ok |
| 15:12.45 | henk | there are only two ways for compiling. cross-compiling or native compiling. at least afaik |
| 15:13.17 | lord-carlos | henk: can you give me an exaple on cross compiling with gcc/make ? |
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| 15:13.35 | henk | no |
| 15:13.54 | henk | never done it |
| 15:14.30 | ndnihil | the toolchain part of the wiki worked fine for me |
| 15:14.36 | ndnihil | for crosscompiling |
| 15:14.49 | lord-carlos | what architecture is SHR using? arm? |
| 15:14.59 | ndnihil | just run the environment setup scripts |
| 15:15.00 | SpeedEvil | all use arm |
| 15:15.03 | ndnihil | as noted |
| 15:15.05 | henk | lord-carlos: the architecture is hardware. |
| 15:15.09 | SpeedEvil | otherwise no workee |
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| 15:15.14 | lord-carlos | ok tahnks |
| 15:15.18 | lord-carlos | *thanks |
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| 15:56.32 | lord-carlos | someone knows how to install libncurses or libcurses on SHR testing? |
| 15:58.51 | max_posedon | lord-carlos, it is installed already |
| 15:59.18 | max_posedon | opkg install ncurses |
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| 16:02.10 | lord-carlos | max_posedon: i am playing around with the chaintool, and if i do a "om-conf kismet-newcore/" i get an error: configure: error: Failed to find libcurses or libncurses. |
| 16:02.43 | max_posedon | oh, you need dev packages |
| 16:02.50 | max_posedon | opkg install ncurses-dev |
| 16:03.23 | lord-carlos | tanks |
| 16:06.05 | dent | hm, isn't it opkg-target when it's in the toolchain? |
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| 16:08.27 | lord-carlos | yes |
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| 16:39.25 | Digital_Pioneer | Hi. I'm having trouble with the LED in the power button not turning off (from blue or orange) when I unplug the phone. |
| 16:39.44 | ndnihil | if that's the worst of your problems with it, you're in good shape :) |
| 16:39.58 | Digital_Pioneer | A second or two of delay is one thing, but it just bugs me when it stays on until it suspends... |
| 16:40.07 | Digital_Pioneer | Then comes back on for a few more seconds afterwards. |
| 16:40.22 | Digital_Pioneer | ndnihil: Indeed. :D But I might as well be in better shape. Hahah |
| 16:42.04 | ndnihil | echo 0 > /sys/class/leds/gta02-power:whatevercolorison/brightness |
| 16:42.39 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah, now make it do that automatically. :P |
| 16:42.52 | Weiss | i find a delay of about 10 seconds for the LED going off when i unplug |
| 16:43.16 | Weiss | i thought it was just how long the framework takes between polling, or something like that |
| 16:43.18 | Digital_Pioneer | Mine just stays on until the phone suspends. |
| 16:43.39 | Digital_Pioneer | Polling? Unplugging should raise an event. |
| 16:43.57 | ndnihil | while true; do if ifconfig usb0; then echo 100 > /sys/ledpath; else echo 0 > /sys/ledpath; fi; sleep 2; done |
| 16:44.07 | ndnihil | ^automatic |
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| 16:44.28 | Digital_Pioneer | Hahah |
| 16:46.02 | Weiss | i also noticed that the charging indicator on the screen takes just as long, so it's not just an LED thing |
| 16:46.07 | Digital_Pioneer | I would THINK it would raise an event when you unplug the thing. After all, plugging it in pulls it out of suspension. Unplugging must send some kind of signal as well. |
| 16:46.20 | Weiss | hmm, true |
| 16:46.35 | Digital_Pioneer | Weiss: Now the battery dock applet on mine doesn't take very long. Just a second or two. |
| 16:46.35 | FirefighterBlu3 | methinks hal and dbus are talking |
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| 16:47.11 | Weiss | Digital_Pioneer: which distribution, out of interest? SHR-testing here |
| 16:47.18 | Digital_Pioneer | SHR-Unstable |
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| 16:50.52 | acidchild | mwester: do things like the phone book, SMS and phone calls work atleast? |
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| 18:17.12 | slaxxer | man u can buy a new stylus for what it cost for 1 set of batteries |
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| 18:23.56 | mmontour | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/09/opensuse_build_service_arm/ |
| 18:25.08 | mmontour | Maybe I should go ahead with my idea to create a SuSE-based distro for the Freerunner |
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| 18:26.16 | sandsmark | mmontour: do it :D |
| 18:26.44 | leinir | Yeah, go go go! :) |
| 18:27.22 | slaxxer | intresting |
| 18:27.40 | mmontour | Let's see how bored I feel this weekend... |
| 18:27.47 | sandsmark | :P |
| 18:27.52 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.05 | slaxxer | backdoor |
| 18:28.22 | SpeedEvil | I've tried compiling slackware on the phone. |
| 18:28.24 | SpeedEvil | (gta01) |
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| 18:28.30 | SpeedEvil | diddn't work though. |
| 18:29.23 | sandsmark | compile it ON the phone? :P |
| 18:29.25 | sandsmark | or for the phone? |
| 18:29.27 | SpeedEvil | on |
| 18:29.30 | SpeedEvil | and for |
| 18:30.19 | slaxxer | s did u check out the aemedSlack project? |
| 18:30.31 | slaxxer | armed* |
| 18:30.38 | slaxxer | wjhatever |
| 18:30.41 | SpeedEvil | no - I just tried downloading the sources, and hitting 'make' |
| 18:30.43 | SpeedEvil | diddn't work./ |
| 18:30.44 | sandsmark | too bad the µArch port is dead :< |
| 18:30.50 | slaxxer | me caatn sepll |
| 18:30.50 | sandsmark | SpeedEvil: hehe |
| 18:31.10 | SpeedEvil | I wasn't really expecting it to - but it was an easy thing to try, rather than involving actual thoguht. |
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| 18:32.47 | slaxxer | next thing suse an microcrap will be making an arm port |
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| 18:38.23 | kW | Hello... is there anything like memcheck for the openmoko neo freerunner? |
| 18:38.32 | kW | Hello... is there anything like memtest for the openmoko neo freerunner? |
| 18:40.01 | SpeedEvil | you can always try my old standby - compiling kernels multiply, and checking the resultant md5sums. |
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| 18:41.01 | kW | SpeedEvil: you talk about compiling kernels on the freerunner? |
| 18:41.05 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 18:41.13 | SpeedEvil | it's a good general memory test |
| 18:41.38 | SpeedEvil | more to the point - why? |
| 18:41.42 | kW | SpeedEvil: well, it will not reach certain parts of the memory, but it may be a good idea |
| 18:41.56 | SpeedEvil | course - memtest or similar is better |
| 18:42.15 | kW | SpeedEvil: I suffer a lot of crashes recently, like "*** glibc detected *** qpe: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x003f0ef0 ***" |
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| 18:43.05 | blokkie | hi |
| 18:43.11 | blokkie | I just got my openmoko |
| 18:43.32 | blokkie | but the interface is diffirent of that is on the wiki . So I can't start a terminal |
| 18:43.36 | blokkie | any help ? |
| 18:44.06 | rooly | blokkie, you'll probably have to install a terminal |
| 18:44.28 | kW | and then: "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-lookup.c: 232: _dl_lookup_symbol_x: Assertion `version == ((void *)0) || (flags & ~(DL_LOOKUP_ADD_DEPENDENCY)) == 0' failed!" |
| 18:44.35 | blokkie | how , coz I don't have access to enter anything |
| 18:44.43 | SpeedEvil | kW: sorry - no direct clue. |
| 18:44.54 | blokkie | rooly: should I mount it via the USB from my laptop ? |
| 18:46.21 | Weiss | blokkie: i'd recommend diving right in at the deep end and flashing your own choice of image |
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| 18:48.21 | blokkie | Weiss: ? |
| 18:49.08 | blokkie | rooly: I can't do like opkg install ****.ipk if I can't go into a terminal. Should I mount the sd card and then chroot ? |
| 18:49.21 | rooly | can you ssh into it? |
| 18:50.26 | blokkie | no , coz it's not connected to the wifi yet , coz I don't have a terminal to bring it u^p |
| 18:50.42 | blokkie | I could just mount it maybe |
| 18:50.57 | mmontour | blokkie: SSH over USB-networking (default address for the FR is 192.168.0.202) |
| 18:51.31 | mmontour | If your host PC has the cdc_ether and usbnet modules then you should see a "usb0" network interface when the phone is plugged in |
| 18:54.06 | fredrin_ | morning |
| 18:55.26 | sandsmark | good morning |
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| 18:56.21 | mmontour | blokkie: also, you probably don't want to keep using the software that was shipped with the phone. Go to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions and install a recent snapshot of whichever one(s) you want |
| 19:07.53 | blokkie | mmontour: which one is the best ? |
| 19:08.05 | blokkie | fdom ? |
| 19:08.26 | mwester | s/best/least worst/ |
| 19:08.27 | mmontour | SHR seems to be the most popular |
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| 20:17.41 | badcloud | hey fellas |
| 20:18.12 | badcloud | can someone help me out? I'm trying to ssh to my device via ubuntu |
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| 20:18.45 | badcloud | followed the instructions per excelance from the wiki |
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| 20:20.24 | fredrin | badcloud: made it work? |
| 20:21.13 | badcloud | no |
| 20:21.24 | badcloud | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host |
| 20:21.44 | badcloud | tried via the net manager and /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:22.09 | badcloud | trying the /freerunner-usb-add.sh script now |
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| 20:23.57 | fredrin | badcloud: what distro are you using on the phone? |
| 20:24.08 | fredrin | try 'ifup usb0' on the phone |
| 20:24.50 | badcloud | just flashed 2008.12 on it |
| 20:24.53 | badcloud | no terminal... |
| 20:26.14 | blokkie | Weiss: you are right |
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| 20:26.49 | fredrin_ | i know, it don't come with a terminal |
| 20:26.55 | blokkie | rooly: mmontour , I've managed to ssh into it and play around a bit , but I think I'll flash it and load another distro on it |
| 20:27.07 | fredrin_ | badcloud: try shr |
| 20:27.22 | rooly | kk, blokkie. |
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| 20:30.09 | fil | ok, so I just apt-get dist-upgraded my (debian) moko and now it's ignoring clicks (other than turning on the backlight) -- any ideas why? |
| 20:32.46 | rooly | maybe your screen is out of calibration? |
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| 20:36.52 | fil | well, could be -- I'll try turning the mouse pointer back on and see if I can make it move... |
| 20:37.14 | Wonka | input-utils might help |
| 20:37.29 | Wonka | namely input-events |
| 20:38.16 | Wonka | you could start that one per ssh via usb and watch what events are generated when you finger the ts... |
| 20:39.25 | fil | Wonka: ok -- trying that, thanks |
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| 20:51.51 | fil | Wonka: ok, so that generates a lot of events -- any idea what I should be looking for? |
| 20:55.38 | Wonka | no |
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| 21:17.44 | badcloud | the device seems to be charging via usb, so wouldn't that mean I could then ssh to it? |
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| 21:27.23 | eolson1 | badcloud, not sure, I didn't think so, maybe you need to run "ifup usb0" on it |
| 21:28.52 | blokkie | when I connect my moko via usb in linux it go's into standby and I lose the ssh connection , how can I fix this ? |
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| 21:35.42 | blokkie | when I connect my moko via usb in linux it go's into standby and I lose the ssh connection , how can I fix this ? |
| 21:35.53 | blokkie | I stoped apmd |
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| 21:47.28 | badcloud | does anyone know if kustomizer works over wifi as well? |
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| 22:06.30 | Zorkman | i just installed navit on the openmoko freerunner (latest one from the repository) but the navit.xml is empty |
| 22:06.38 | Zorkman | does anybody have this file? |
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| 22:11.24 | lindi- | Zorkman: which distro? |
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| 22:12.31 | Zorkman | lindi-: shr unstable |
| 22:12.50 | Zorkman | i added the navit repository |
| 22:12.59 | lindi- | Zorkman: dunno, debian comes with /etc/navit.xml |
| 22:13.12 | Zorkman | (http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn) |
| 22:13.31 | Zorkman | could you upload it? dunno if it'll work but worth a try maybe.. |
| 22:13.35 | Zorkman | (you have a recent navit?) |
| 22:14.37 | lindi- | Zorkman: mixing packages between distros is not really good idea |
| 22:14.59 | lindi- | Zorkman: but you can compare your package against http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/navit/ |
| 22:17.48 | Zorkman | thx |
| 22:19.48 | eolson1 | badcloud, oops, i didn't read the scrollback earlier. If you're still having ssh problems, I also do the manual net setup thing on ubuntu these days (since the auto thing stopped working when I upgraded ubuntu). After plugging in the usb I run this: |
| 22:19.48 | eolson1 | <PROTECTED> |
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