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| 19:55.29 | *** topic/#openmoko is Reports of massive redundancies at openmoko (autotranslated) http://tinyurl.com/cqpal3 Users of Openmoko Hardware | Developers, please join#openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org/ | Before asking read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 19:56.41 | SeligArkin | Hmm |
| 19:56.49 | tessier_ | Will software development for the gta02 (freerunner) continue? /. made it sound like the whole openmoko project was dead. |
| 19:57.13 | fredrin | tessier_: looks lit it |
| 19:57.13 | tessier_ | I'm sure it will continue in one form or another since it's Free software. But will it slow? And do we ever expect to have a user friendly phone out of it? |
| 19:57.15 | fredrin | like |
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| 20:00.02 | azaghal | slaxxin: intone? |
| 20:00.24 | azaghal | tessier_: Has it been fast so far? ;) |
| 20:01.34 | tessier_ | azaghal: Has what been fast so far? The pace of development? Depends on how you look at it. A lot has been done. But I still don't have an iPhone replacement. :) |
| 20:01.49 | tessier_ | It's been months since I've used my phone. I need to flash it up to current and see how it does. |
| 20:02.21 | azaghal | tessier_: Heck, who wants to turn Neo Freerunner into a closed proprietary phone anyway? :) It'll never be an iPhone replacement :D |
| 20:03.10 | tessier_ | azaghal: You don't have to be closed/proprietary to replace it. |
| 20:03.13 | tessier_ | Just be functional. |
| 20:03.21 | azaghal | I was being ironic. |
| 20:03.23 | azaghal | Joking ;) |
| 20:03.25 | tessier_ | ok :) |
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| 20:04.41 | slaxxin | 03252009 shrunstable is good with the rc-3 kernel |
| 20:04.49 | slaxxin | - |
| 20:05.56 | slaxxin | it was suspended for 20 minuits an still unsuspended back into the same spot in the song:) |
| 20:06.42 | slaxxin | very nice app |
| 20:06.56 | tessier_ | Yeah, how's the power saving stuff working these days? Before it would never sleep and my battery was done in hours. |
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| 20:07.44 | slaxxin | 29 hours although u must reboot each morning unless u shut it off overnite |
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| 20:09.29 | slaxxin | check the distros page |
| 20:09.30 | eolson | slaxxin, why do you have to reboot? |
| 20:09.48 | slaxxin | gsm quits i think |
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| 20:10.05 | slaxxin | just read that |
| 20:10.25 | eolson | hmm, i don't have that problem, but I have a gta01, I wonder if other people have to reboot |
| 20:10.28 | slaxxin | i dont know |
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| 20:10.59 | slaxxin | im using unstable to |
| 20:10.59 | max_posedon | slaxxin, have you a link maybe? |
| 20:11.09 | slaxxin | whaty/ |
| 20:11.18 | slaxxin | shr unstAabl? |
| 20:11.29 | max_posedon | about reboot, yes |
| 20:11.45 | slaxxin | i cant remember where it was |
| 20:12.01 | slaxxin | let me think stand back |
| 20:12.09 | slaxxin | :) |
| 20:12.51 | slaxxin | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stable_Hybrid_Release |
| 20:12.58 | slaxxin | at the bottom |
| 20:13.07 | slaxxin | maybe outdated |
| 20:13.32 | max_posedon | thanks |
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| 20:26.08 | toggles_w | damn.. according to dot slash google + tmobile are going to trounce da moko's plan b.. |
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| 20:31.20 | slaxxin | http://tech.yahoo.com/news/afp/20090406/tc_afp/usittelecominternettmobilegoogle |
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| 21:28.21 | gfather | http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/06/openmoko-freerunner-canceled-staff-slashed/ |
| 21:28.26 | gfather | whats this news about ? |
| 21:28.48 | gfather | no more openmoko |
| 21:29.06 | gfather | :( |
| 21:29.25 | fredrin | gfather: relax |
| 21:29.58 | fredrin | the comunity lives on |
| 21:30.03 | fredrin | the phones are out there |
| 21:30.25 | fredrin | and worst case is that we need to hack android phones |
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| 21:31.43 | gfather | but all the work on the disto's |
| 21:31.51 | gfather | *distros |
| 21:33.22 | gfather | i was happy today that at last i will be able to get rtl support and localize it |
| 21:33.29 | fredrin | the comments on the article were not so bad though |
| 21:33.41 | gfather | now im sad |
| 21:33.42 | max_posedon | gfather, this news is only about gta03 |
| 21:34.03 | fredrin | gfather: todo bien |
| 21:34.05 | max_posedon | openmoko as company not dead, and they continue work on gta02 |
| 21:34.33 | max_posedon | they will release gta02v07 soon (with all hardware bug/buzz fixes) |
| 21:34.50 | max_posedon | and have some internel "project B" |
| 21:35.56 | fredrin | they could still fire all their staff and just keep the comunity going and produce gta02v07, just keep bying it, it gets more value relative every day :D |
| 21:37.50 | fredrin | and now you can use it as a phone even :D |
| 21:39.01 | gfather | :) well i need to sleep |
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| 21:39.35 | gfather | but i hope the comunity still , and i hope they release a new devise somehow in project b |
| 21:40.47 | gfather | ce ya later guys |
| 21:41.21 | fredrin | later |
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| 21:44.38 | DocScrutinizer | hey, OM did a really bad job (once again) to communicate this. Basically with GTA02A8 we reached end of hw-enum (3 pins ;) and anyway there's no further bugfix anywhere on the horizon that would create need for a GTA02A9 (except low-bass maybe). So think of GTA02 as finalized (hw-side). It's only reasonable to reduce R&D effort for this product, and start to *sell* |
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| 21:46.04 | fredrin | true |
| 21:46.48 | max_posedon | sorry, why *bad job*? |
| 21:47.39 | DocScrutinizer | somehow it came down like "OM is stopping to produce FR" and actually many papers are writing this FUD |
| 21:48.13 | max_posedon | finalized gta02 isn't so bad), btw, DocScrutinizer how many gta02 selled already? |
| 21:48.34 | shellevil | DocScrutinizer: raster said the software side got - largely - sacked - is this incorrect? |
| 21:48.34 | DocScrutinizer | papers say 10k. Think this is about right |
| 21:48.45 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 21:48.57 | shellevil | ah. |
| 21:49.40 | max_posedon | hm... I thought, it was only about july's part |
| 21:49.47 | DocScrutinizer | so GTA02 & openmoko(the kernel/distri) is getting closer to become a veritable community project ;-) |
| 21:49.49 | shellevil | DocScrutinizer: well - OM is at fault too - note the lack of news on the website. |
| 21:50.03 | alphaone | DocScrutinizer: I'm currently thinking about and working on test and then writing up a blog post and mails to clear up the myths surrounding GTA02 |
| 21:50.13 | fredrin | dont underestimaete communities with a commuity device lol |
| 21:50.13 | DocScrutinizer | OM is abysmal wrt |
| 21:50.27 | mwester | s/ wrt// |
| 21:50.32 | alphaone | Even Sean stated at the OpenExpo that the FR misses calls |
| 21:51.01 | alphaone | I am using it for 6 months now and it has been stable in that regard for over three |
| 21:51.55 | DocScrutinizer | Sean doesn't know his own product. that's no problem as long as he doesn't speak or take decisions :-) |
| 21:52.18 | alphaone | So there really is work to be done wrt FR myths |
| 21:52.34 | DocScrutinizer | yup, a big deal of work |
| 21:52.37 | anttna | Hi, I was just at a talk by a guy from mozilla he was talking about fennec. It will eventually be ff for the mobile |
| 21:52.53 | shellevil | I herd FR lieks mudkips. |
| 21:53.05 | ndnihil | ugh, I tried FF on the FR last night, brutally slow |
| 21:53.06 | alphaone | anttna: Large and slow? SCNR |
| 21:53.18 | DocScrutinizer | fenec != FF |
| 21:53.46 | shellevil | and again. I note that I have run FF - 1.5/2 on a comparable platform in recent times - PII/300/64M RAM |
| 21:53.53 | shellevil | and it was quite acceptable. |
| 21:54.31 | DocScrutinizer | pII-300 is about twice as fast as 2442 I'd say |
| 21:55.05 | anttna | alphaone: he wasn't too keen to talk about memory footprint, right enough he admitted it depended on the platform . So I guess it could be a problem |
| 21:55.08 | azaghal | Anyone knows about Maemo Mer? |
| 21:55.13 | DocScrutinizer | and probably you had a decent swap partition to support your 64MB |
| 21:55.20 | max_posedon | as for me, I hope opera will be released some day |
| 21:55.39 | azaghal | Midori's not so bad. |
| 21:55.51 | max_posedon | midoris is bad if speak about rendering |
| 21:56.09 | max_posedon | for me main problem isn't speed, but horizontal scrolls |
| 21:56.16 | DocScrutinizer | shellevil: maybe even 133MHz RAM |
| 21:56.38 | anttna | They are primarily developing on nokia tablet |
| 21:57.00 | DocScrutinizer | shellevil: there were PII300 boards/chipsets that could do 133 |
| 21:57.07 | shellevil | DocScrutinizer: well - I actually was running AES swap - 5M/s, and 100MHz SDRAM |
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| 21:58.17 | azaghal | anttna: Still, some cooperation might be possible? |
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| 21:58.34 | azaghal | They've managed to build quite a nice stable distro with Maemo. |
| 21:58.46 | SomeT | who? |
| 21:59.05 | azaghal | (not for Freerunner) |
| 21:59.17 | anttna | azaghal: They have used fr but didn't like the fact that they needed hw fixes |
| 21:59.19 | shellevil | DocScrutinizer: yes - and it's got oodles more cache, ... I'm not saying it's the same speed - I'm saying it's of a comparable order of magnitude. |
| 21:59.32 | DocScrutinizer | azaghal: stop talking bout maemo >:-( boots every day for no reason here |
| 21:59.55 | azaghal | boots? |
| 22:00.03 | shellevil | DocScrutinizer: meaning I was attempting to put FF1.5 on GTA01 - until life got in the way and my time available plummeted |
| 22:00.13 | DocScrutinizer | yup.. klingklangklong booot |
| 22:00.22 | shellevil | compiled but diddn't start beyond the profile screen |
| 22:00.32 | DocScrutinizer | reboot |
| 22:00.33 | max_posedon | DocScrutinizer, one more question to insider, how many gta02v07 OM planning to sell? |
| 22:00.41 | shellevil | All of them! |
| 22:00.55 | hipitihop | bids good morning from aus |
| 22:01.26 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: lol, as much as possible I'd guess :P |
| 22:01.43 | max_posedon | but I think they have some plan) |
| 22:02.03 | shellevil | Given that 'project B' isn't a phone - reportedly - then GTA02 is it |
| 22:02.08 | max_posedon | I don't think that gta02v07 created for selling say 500devices |
| 22:02.12 | shellevil | If you want a OM phone |
| 22:02.23 | shellevil | max_posedon: 07 is a trivil mod of GTA02 |
| 22:02.39 | max_posedon | because as I know, many non-main-shops still have gta02 in stocks |
| 22:02.45 | shellevil | max_posedon: it wasn't 'created' it was just 'ooops' - better fix revisions. |
| 22:02.46 | DocScrutinizer | max_posedon: I know for sure there are more than that already built at fab |
| 22:02.54 | azaghal | hipitihop: Gah, enough with the mornings, I have a lot of work tomorrow, let me sleep at least :P |
| 22:03.56 | shellevil | wishes some of the silly dreams at the start would emerge as reality. |
| 22:04.01 | max_posedon | shellevil, I understand it, I just preparing slides for one linux conf about neo, and want brake many myths) |
| 22:04.01 | shellevil | Parts store forex. |
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| 22:07.41 | shellevil | There are myths on both sides - FR isn't stable phone, and it isn't useless. |
| 22:07.57 | shellevil | or ratehr - stable user-ready phone |
| 22:08.00 | shellevil | as some imply |
| 22:08.15 | shellevil | (for average, not deeply knowledgable users) |
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| 22:08.51 | max_posedon | isn't stable, but it is ready to use for people, if they don't need phone for everday-work. |
| 22:09.08 | max_posedon | but only for geeks, yes. |
| 22:09.43 | max_posedon | I haven't missed any calls, (just can't sometimes answer, but no problem to recall) |
| 22:10.20 | max_posedon | sometimes have problem with shr and sms's, but always can read them manually from dbus. |
| 22:10.26 | shellevil | And GTA01 is about the same state of hardware readyness as GTA02v07 as I understand it. |
| 22:10.45 | max_posedon | so, I'm optimistic in this point of view. |
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| 22:12.43 | shellevil | If the SW side was as polished as the hardware - ... |
| 22:12.52 | mwester | decides that a bit of reality in this channel might go over about as well as a bucket of ice water, and decides to leave the rose-colored glasses and optimism be |
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| 22:15.01 | fredrin | ah, kernel hackers |
| 22:15.02 | xcasexwrka | mwester: i called it a week after i got my neo. i dont think it'd go over worse than it did then |
| 22:16.39 | mwester | It'll get worse; it won't be long before people will start blaming the "community who didn't come up with software" for the failure. |
| 22:16.42 | max_posedon | mwester, ))) I'm using gta02 from september, and you know, I have to say for all developers who do smth for gta02 "Thanks, greate work!". Because it really, *really* better. and even usable as phone. |
| 22:17.17 | max_posedon | right now, I think that pda's part is problem. |
| 22:17.32 | max_posedon | just no software that are ready. |
| 22:21.00 | anttna | max_posedon: pda? please can you explain this |
| 22:21.53 | hipitihop | I now have Qi flashed. Anyone know if Android can be booted from uSD or must it be flashed |
| 22:22.32 | max_posedon | anttna, web browser, IM clients, audio/video players |
| 22:22.33 | hipitihop | scrambles back to wiki in case he missed something |
| 22:22.52 | max_posedon | now what we have is smth like prof-of-concept |
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| 22:28.32 | badcloud | hey all |
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| 22:37.35 | badcloud | anyone here getting segfaults with vagalume? |
| 22:37.44 | ndnihil | me |
| 22:38.00 | shellevil | mwester: In many ways they are. But is the community to blame for that failure - I'd say not. |
| 22:38.02 | ndnihil | and when I try to uninstall it, tast-shr-gtk sepends on it for some reason |
| 22:38.06 | badcloud | found a workaround/solution? |
| 22:38.49 | ndnihil | yes, but it involves not using vagalume |
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| 22:39.34 | badcloud | also, I can't seem to run mokometeo even after copying question.png to ~/.mokometeo/img/ |
| 22:40.48 | badcloud | ndnihil, so what's the workaround? |
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| 22:46.08 | ndnihil | badcloud: I call it "don't use vagalume" |
| 22:46.29 | badcloud | good one |
| 22:47.00 | badcloud | not helpful, but slightly amusing anyway |
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| 23:23.54 | hipitihop | can anyone tell me if a 512mg uSD is sufficient to try Adnroid ? |
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| 23:36.49 | CVirus | is there a list of stuff that made it to vanilla kernel ? |
| 23:37.55 | fredrin | none |
| 23:38.07 | fredrin | think they're working on it |
| 23:38.15 | fredrin | getting things upstream |
| 23:38.21 | mwester | hipitihop: plentyy |
| 23:38.30 | CVirus | I thought there are things that went upstream already ? |
| 23:38.48 | fredrin | check the kernel mailinglist |
| 23:39.46 | mwester | CVirus: nothing that will stand on its own at this time. |
| 23:40.02 | hipitihop | mwester: thanks... flashing 'panicking' shortly, hope it works with Qi |
| 23:41.26 | CVirus | mwester: not a single line of code went upstream ? |
| 23:42.25 | mwester | I didn't say that. |
| 23:43.08 | mwester | Some of the bits and pieces went up, IIRC. But not enough that you can take the virgin kernel git repo, enable "GTA02" in the defconfig, and get anything that will boot. |
| 23:43.42 | CVirus | yeah I get it |
| 23:44.02 | mmontour | CVirus: some alsa/wm8753 stuff went upstream |
| 23:44.18 | CVirus | mmontour: cool .. thanks for the info |
| 23:44.30 | CVirus | is the WSOD gone ? |
| 23:44.39 | CVirus | I haven't been following up lately |
| 23:44.45 | fredrin | depends of the kernel |
| 23:45.11 | fredrin | and the bootloader, but with Qi and latest shr-unstable kernel I'm happy |
| 23:45.19 | CVirus | is there a kernel/distro combination that would render my phone usable for more than 24 hours ? |
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| 23:47.00 | hipitihop | CVirus: qt-extended |
| 23:47.10 | CVirus | nice |
| 23:48.01 | hipitihop | CVirus: there is now qt-extended-improved but I have not yet tried... currently flashing android to see if it is comparable |
| 23:48.09 | mwester | :) SHR is pretty good too, at this point. |
| 23:48.53 | saracen | Whats the battery life like when using qt extended? |
| 23:49.02 | hipitihop | mwester: any recent screenshots about of shr ? |
| 23:50.07 | fredrin | CVirus: go with shr |
| 23:50.18 | CVirus | fredrin: cool |
| 23:50.24 | fredrin | or shr-unstable that i guess soon will be testing |
| 23:50.35 | fredrin | it's nice living on the edge |
| 23:50.37 | fredrin | :) |
| 23:50.39 | hipitihop | saracen: obviously depends on your level of usage, but in suspend it feels like near 48 hours is possible, but have not measured |
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| 23:51.42 | saracen | hipitihop: ty :) |
| 23:56.35 | fredrin | gta03 mailinglist is up :) |