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| 00:29.21 | badcloud | can't sleep |
| 00:30.29 | badcloud | not that this channel has the same problem |
| 00:31.26 | badcloud | ^_^ |
| 00:31.47 | badcloud | what time is it, apt? |
| 00:32.22 | badcloud | apt, make badcloud coffee |
| 00:33.02 | badcloud | GODDAMMIT, apt, what the hell am I paying for?! |
| 00:34.08 | badcloud | bah humbug |
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| 02:38.32 | taz0 | has anybody packaged apt for openmoko? |
| 02:39.03 | taz0 | i would like to have openmoko installed and install stuff via apt |
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| 03:07.09 | ndnihil | taz0: yes, the fine folks over at debian |
| 03:07.33 | ndnihil | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner |
| 03:18.07 | taz0 | no i mean with openmoko |
| 03:18.11 | taz0 | the distro |
| 03:18.20 | taz0 | so i can run ipk files + deb files |
| 03:18.34 | taz0 | ndnihil: if that makes sense |
| 03:26.38 | ndnihil | hrm, dont think so |
| 03:26.43 | ndnihil | not that I've seen anyway |
| 03:27.07 | ndnihil | doesn't look like alien handles ipkg |
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| 03:32.16 | ndnihil | you could always write a utility to convert ipkg to dpkg |
| 03:32.23 | ndnihil | shouldn't be too difficult |
| 03:35.14 | mwester | I think the utility would consist of "mv <package>.ipk <package>.deb" |
| 03:35.49 | ndnihil | doh |
| 03:35.56 | ndnihil | I haven't looked at the ipkg format yet |
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| 03:39.13 | Chocky | laffs |
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| 03:44.38 | Chocky | um |
| 03:44.42 | Chocky | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Judy0000 |
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| 03:45.32 | ndnihil | shakes his head |
| 03:45.40 | Chocky | deletes |
| 03:46.56 | Chocky | loads of those |
| 03:48.03 | ndnihil | hates spam |
| 03:48.19 | Chocky | I used to get loads of spam on my wiki until I put in a captcha |
| 03:48.27 | Chocky | and then deleted all the bogus accounts |
| 03:50.19 | ndnihil | captcha is annoying, but not nearly as annoying as spam |
| 03:50.34 | Chocky | it was mostly for creating new accounts, which was the real problem |
| 03:51.47 | Chocky | oh noes! conficker! |
| 03:51.52 | Chocky | oh wait, I have Linux |
| 03:52.12 | Chocky | and my Windows machine at work does auto-updates |
| 03:52.32 | FirefighterBlu3 | what can i do about taming enlightenment? it is always sucking at least ~38% cpu regardless of being used or idle |
| 03:52.38 | Chocky | heh |
| 03:53.07 | ndnihil | hovering between 18% and 20% when idle on mine |
| 03:53.23 | Chocky | use fvwm |
| 03:57.29 | taz0 | mwester: are you serious? |
| 03:57.54 | mwester | of course. try it. |
| 03:58.06 | Chocky | or better, opkg install package.deb |
| 03:58.08 | taz0 | ok i shall |
| 03:58.15 | taz0 | orly |
| 03:58.20 | Chocky | yusrly |
| 03:58.25 | taz0 | if this works im going to feel really stupid |
| 03:58.46 | Chocky | well, I doubt it. Dependencies will cause you headaches. |
| 03:59.48 | taz0 | it would be enough to install apt |
| 03:59.54 | taz0 | which is good enough for me |
| 03:59.57 | Chocky | hah. |
| 04:00.03 | Chocky | apt has a surprising number of dependencies. |
| 04:00.13 | taz0 | oh |
| 04:00.14 | Chocky | not impossible, but maybe tricky. |
| 04:00.18 | ndnihil | so does cpan, as I noticed last night :) |
| 04:00.23 | taz0 | tricky i can do :) |
| 04:00.35 | Chocky | And in any case, apt and opkg won't know about each other's files |
| 04:03.36 | taz0 | i find it odd that openmoko did not choose apt |
| 04:03.48 | taz0 | but i guess they had their reasons |
| 04:04.05 | Chocky | openmoko didn't choose apt, they choose openembedded, which had ipkg |
| 04:04.36 | Chocky | Now you get to ask why OE choose ipkg. |
| 04:04.58 | taz0 | so why did they? because it is more lightweight? |
| 04:05.15 | taz0 | i guess its basically a stripped down version of dpkg |
| 04:05.25 | Chocky | Yes, a lot. Especially on very small devices of the day (say, 6 years ago). pb_ could give you the complete run down why. |
| 04:05.29 | taz0 | for embedded hardware |
| 04:05.33 | Chocky | and it does stuff like install from URLs |
| 04:05.47 | Chocky | It's not a stripped down dpkg, it's a different program completely. |
| 04:05.51 | taz0 | oh |
| 04:06.20 | Chocky | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipkg |
| 04:06.25 | Chocky | not very helpful, though |
| 04:06.51 | Chocky | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Ipkg |
| 04:07.02 | taz0 | thanks :) |
| 04:08.48 | taz0 | there are a lot of packages in the debian repo that are so good |
| 04:09.02 | taz0 | its a shame i think, im gonna try to install apt, see what that does |
| 04:09.04 | Chocky | so run Debian on your FR :p |
| 04:09.14 | taz0 | i did but its slow |
| 04:09.19 | taz0 | the ui is not very responsive |
| 04:09.27 | taz0 | i killed down all apps |
| 04:09.40 | taz0 | went looking everywhere i dont know if its the kernel or what |
| 04:09.47 | taz0 | something slows down everything |
| 04:09.58 | taz0 | sometimes its like a I/O problem |
| 04:10.11 | taz0 | it just freezes up for a while, might be swapping |
| 04:10.20 | Chocky | not unless you configured swap :p |
| 04:10.22 | taz0 | when someone calls i cannot awnser in time |
| 04:10.25 | taz0 | i did |
| 04:10.32 | taz0 | i had it on a seperate partition |
| 04:10.45 | taz0 | only thing i did not try was to completly have it on the flash and run the os on the SD |
| 04:10.52 | taz0 | that might have done good i think |
| 04:11.10 | taz0 | and another thing is that openmoko has a lot of software tested that works for the phone |
| 04:11.20 | Chocky | and a lot that doesn't :p |
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| 04:11.50 | taz0 | debian apps most of them dont work very well since they need 2 buttons and the width of the phone is too small etc |
| 04:11.54 | ndnihil | like anything involving gps |
| 04:11.56 | ndnihil | :) |
| 04:12.03 | Chocky | or WiFi |
| 04:12.03 | taz0 | yea exactly |
| 04:12.07 | taz0 | yes |
| 04:12.10 | taz0 | wifi is horrible |
| 04:12.12 | ndnihil | my wifi kinda wants to work |
| 04:12.15 | taz0 | if i get it working my usb stops working |
| 04:12.22 | taz0 | so i have a bunch of aliases now |
| 04:12.24 | taz0 | :) |
| 04:12.34 | taz0 | i saw the wifi thing a guy had made |
| 04:12.35 | ndnihil | taz: it drops the usb part when it reconfigures the network |
| 04:12.54 | taz0 | and i basically am thinking about making a few UIs for fun, and i should contribute it to openmoko really, why not |
| 04:13.03 | taz0 | ive not used openmoko as OS, only had debian |
| 04:13.11 | taz0 | i feel a little like a traitor |
| 04:13.33 | Chocky | Cheating on Debian! oh noes! |
| 04:13.46 | Chocky | Dammit, where's drama Dave |
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| 04:17.21 | taz0 | hmm |
| 04:17.21 | taz0 | The requested URL /repository/Multiverse was not found on this server. |
| 04:17.29 | taz0 | has it changed? |
| 04:17.58 | taz0 | goes to search through mailinglist |
| 04:20.12 | taz0 | the url on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Repository points to a broken link |
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| 04:20.55 | FirefighterBlu3 | fix the wiki =] |
| 04:21.54 | taz0 | but i dont know what the correct url is :) |
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| 05:23.06 | ndnihil | what kernel module is used for the gps chipset? |
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| 05:24.04 | mmontour | none - gps is attached to a serial port |
| 05:24.18 | ndnihil | I thought it was i2c? |
| 05:24.27 | mmontour | /dev/ttySAC1 |
| 05:26.26 | ndnihil | hrm |
| 05:26.57 | ndnihil | have you tried the standard gpsd vs. the fso-gpsd? |
| 05:27.39 | mmontour | I haven't done anything with GPS for months |
| 05:28.06 | mmontour | My FR also hasn't been outside in that time - just sitting on my desk, mainly keeping papers from falling off |
| 05:28.35 | slaxxin | the best app yet |
| 05:28.37 | ndnihil | why not? |
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| 05:29.30 | mmontour | partly a lack of free time, mainly the sad state of the distros and the OE build framework |
| 05:30.30 | mmontour | I'm getting closer to being able to build an image locally and have some basic functionality. I made a call last night and it worked except that I had no audio |
| 05:30.58 | ndnihil | that puts a damper on calls |
| 05:31.00 | mmontour | (unstable fso-zhone-image with a linux-openmoko-devel kernel) |
| 05:31.08 | ndnihil | ah |
| 05:31.12 | ndnihil | im using shr testing |
| 05:32.16 | ndnihil | calls work fine, sms works, gprs works, wifi kinda works maybe, and havent tried bluetooth |
| 05:32.32 | ndnihil | gps is being a bitch though |
| 05:33.40 | slaxxin | did u opkg upgrade today? |
| 05:33.50 | spaetz | mmontour: note that gs won't work if your time/timezone isn't set correctly |
| 05:34.03 | taz0 | why is multiverse not online? |
| 05:34.10 | mmontour | Don't get me started on timezones... |
| 05:34.14 | spaetz | gps |
| 05:34.32 | spaetz | I've seen your comments on setting the time to the other side of the continent :) |
| 05:34.52 | taz0 | is anybody able to install community packages? |
| 05:35.04 | taz0 | from the multiverse repo? |
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| 05:35.23 | ndnihil | I get nothing from /dev/ttySAC1 |
| 05:35.33 | ndnihil | gps is powered on |
| 05:37.19 | taz0 | could somebody please give me the contents of their /etc/opkg/community.conf (or whatever file that is being used to fetch packages off the community repo. i would appriciate it alot |
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| 05:40.08 | ndnihil | doesnt have one |
| 05:40.13 | slaxxin | http://openmoko-fr.org/wiki/index.php/IPhoneOS_on_Freerunner |
| 05:40.22 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.39 | ndnihil | posted at midnight I'm guessing? |
| 05:41.33 | ndnihil | wonders what the kernel and rootfs images really are |
| 05:43.34 | ndnihil | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-November/003832.html |
| 05:43.38 | ndnihil | ^just happened to me too |
| 05:44.31 | mmontour | ndnihil: if you want to access /dev/ttySAC1 directly you need to make sure nothing else (e.g. frameworkd) is using the port |
| 05:45.41 | mmontour | Try "stty -F /dev/ttySAC1 9600 -crtscts" then power-cycle the GPS through its /sys/.../power_on node. You should then be able to 'cat' the port and see NMEA data |
| 05:46.21 | mmontour | (not sure if the -crtscts is needed or correct, but I did it on mine and it worked) |
| 05:48.23 | ndnihil | nothing |
| 05:48.43 | ndnihil | lsof |
| 05:48.44 | ndnihil | ewr |
| 05:48.45 | ndnihil | er |
| 05:50.52 | taz0 | i cant install stuff with opkg :( the repos are messed up (per default) |
| 05:51.08 | ndnihil | taz: what dist? |
| 05:51.12 | taz0 | openmoko |
| 05:51.23 | ndnihil | the OM200x are outdated |
| 05:51.32 | taz0 | oh |
| 05:51.40 | taz0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.46 | ndnihil | I'm liking shr for now |
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| 05:51.55 | ndnihil | though very tempted to stick proper debian on it |
| 05:52.04 | taz0 | what do you mean with outdated |
| 05:52.17 | ndnihil | outdated as in those repositories dont exist anymore |
| 05:52.32 | taz0 | so what happend to the ppl using them |
| 05:52.36 | taz0 | they moved to shr? |
| 05:52.41 | ndnihil | that would be my guess |
| 05:52.53 | ndnihil | the OM200x series seem to be pretty stagnant |
| 05:52.59 | ndnihil | but then I've only had the thing since friday |
| 05:53.06 | ndnihil | I'm far from an expert |
| 05:53.18 | taz0 | why would they not update their repo |
| 05:53.28 | taz0 | have they left openmoko |
| 05:53.38 | taz0 | or is it just old and they are working on new stuff |
| 05:53.40 | ndnihil | probably working on a new dist that hasnt been released yet |
| 05:53.53 | taz0 | you mean 2009.X |
| 05:54.02 | ndnihil | no telling |
| 05:54.04 | taz0 | its still openmoko (that is the distname) |
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| 05:54.25 | taz0 | so there is no offical distro now? |
| 05:54.36 | taz0 | (which works) |
| 05:54.43 | taz0 | ? |
| 05:55.02 | ndnihil | try qt if you want something that works out of the box and looks pretty |
| 05:55.11 | ndnihil | but all phone features arent supported |
| 05:55.21 | ndnihil | but it'll be a functional phone |
| 05:55.38 | taz0 | i dont want to use qt |
| 05:55.43 | ndnihil | FDOM if you have masochistic tendencies |
| 05:55.53 | taz0 | FDOM is to bloated |
| 05:55.55 | taz0 | and slow |
| 05:56.19 | ndnihil | yeah, it was brutal when I tried it |
| 05:56.26 | ndnihil | flash it over to SHR testing and poke around |
| 05:56.52 | taz0 | what repos does shr use? |
| 05:56.55 | PaulFertser | taz0: one more suggestion: there're testing "official" images at downloads.openmoko.org. You might like Paroli. |
| 05:57.06 | ndnihil | paroli? |
| 05:57.07 | PaulFertser | taz0: or you can install Paroli on SHR too. |
| 05:57.09 | taz0 | PaulFertser: whats that |
| 05:57.10 | ndnihil | that one isnt on the wiki |
| 05:57.47 | PaulFertser | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli |
| 05:57.58 | ndnihil | or perhaps it is and I'm blind :) |
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| 06:02.17 | taz0 | PaulFertser: so i add that repo to my /etc/opkg/blabla.conf file then update? |
| 06:02.40 | ndnihil | paul: does parilo actually offer something new/different than say, shr? |
| 06:02.56 | PaulFertser | taz0: hm, a bit too risky. I'd install it by hand fully. To avoid messing anything. |
| 06:03.08 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: different end-user interface to FSO. |
| 06:03.09 | taz0 | what do you mean with by hand |
| 06:03.34 | taz0 | is it less of a resourcehog then zhone? |
| 06:03.38 | PaulFertser | taz0: opkg install http://only_one_package_i_really_need |
| 06:03.44 | taz0 | ? |
| 06:03.52 | taz0 | oh |
| 06:03.57 | taz0 | heh ok |
| 06:04.12 | PaulFertser | taz0: Zhone is a resource hog? Where? BTW, SHR's dialer is not Zhone. |
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| 06:05.08 | taz0 | when somebody calls the cpu spikes all the time |
| 06:05.25 | taz0 | if somebody is calling+ i am listning to musik it just freezes everythin |
| 06:05.39 | taz0 | this is why i wanted to try vanilla openmoko |
| 06:06.02 | taz0 | which is really respoinsive and fast |
| 06:06.24 | taz0 | all i wanted was the basic packages and run it, but the repo is gone |
| 06:07.07 | PaulFertser | taz0: what distro are you using? What ringtone? |
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| 06:18.28 | ndnihil | heh, I've killed/stopped pretty much everything you can and still be able to ssh in over usb |
| 06:18.35 | ndnihil | still nothing on ttySAC1 |
| 06:18.46 | taz0 | PaulFertser: i was using debian, whatever was standard |
| 06:19.02 | ndnihil | taz: I think he meant on the phone |
| 06:19.04 | PaulFertser | taz0: ah, well. Did it sound like an "awful" 8-bit game sound? |
| 06:19.10 | taz0 | debian was slow for me, i closed down every app still was slow, openmoko is really fast comaird |
| 06:19.15 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: have you powered on GPS? |
| 06:19.21 | ndnihil | yep its powered on |
| 06:19.23 | taz0 | PaulFertser: i think it was arkanoid |
| 06:19.41 | taz0 | no no gps since it takes too much battery |
| 06:19.47 | ndnihil | root@phone ~ $ cat /sys/bus/platform/drivers/neo1973-pm-gps/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron |
| 06:19.50 | ndnihil | 1 |
| 06:20.10 | PaulFertser | taz0: ah, well. Should be fast enough. Anyway, Debian, SHR and Paroli use the same middleware: FSO. I guess the slowness comes from it. |
| 06:20.20 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: try to powercycle, there were some funny issues. |
| 06:20.26 | taz0 | PaulFertser: i think it was the debian kernel |
| 06:20.36 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: and do not enable flow control |
| 06:20.40 | taz0 | im not sure though if they all use the same one or how its setup |
| 06:20.41 | PaulFertser | taz0: nope |
| 06:20.49 | ndnihil | hrm, after echo 1 > .../neo1973-pm-gps.0/power/wakeup |
| 06:20.52 | ndnihil | I get something |
| 06:21.01 | ndnihil | maybe the damn thing was asleep all this time |
| 06:21.06 | taz0 | comapired to openmoko 2008.12 debian very horrible |
| 06:21.13 | taz0 | this is why i rather not go back |
| 06:21.21 | taz0 | but debian has all the good pacakges |
| 06:21.23 | ndnihil | hrm, not reproducable though |
| 06:22.20 | taz0 | i dont know the gui is alot fast then it has ever been (ive reinstalled debian and tried hackable1 and fyp) |
| 06:23.09 | ndnihil | paul: it has been lacking GPS info through many reboots |
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| 06:24.09 | ndnihil | is the gps receiver built into the gsm modem? I've got a telit module with gps built in |
| 06:25.41 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: no, gps is separate module. |
| 06:26.55 | ndnihil | hrm, echo 1> wakeup doesnt seem to help after a reboot |
| 06:27.31 | ndnihil | it was working for a very short time with an SHR flash |
| 06:27.53 | ndnihil | decided to use SHR and flashed it again to start clean |
| 06:27.57 | ndnihil | and hasnt worked since |
| 06:28.37 | ndnihil | reading raw from gpsd just returns blank fields |
| 06:30.14 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: hm, i'm not sure wakeup is ever used. Just try echo 0 > pwron; echo 1 >pwron ; there was a bug concerning weirdness in gps power control. |
| 06:30.31 | ndnihil | frameworkd.log:2009.04.01 02:25:30 ogpsd WARNING (could not write to '/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/power_on': [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/power_on') |
| 06:30.56 | ndnihil | power_on != pwron |
| 06:32.15 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: it's ok, framework writes to both nodes just in case |
| 06:32.16 | ndnihil | and /sys doesn't like symbolic links :) |
| 06:32.19 | ndnihil | ah |
| 06:32.49 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: for the sake of compatibility with ancient kernels ;) |
| 06:32.55 | ndnihil | gotcha |
| 06:33.13 | ndnihil | hrm, are there newer kernels that work with shr testing? |
| 06:33.27 | ndnihil | or am I just asking to trade one bug for another |
| 06:33.38 | spaetz | ndnihil: kernel from shr-unstable should work just fine |
| 06:33.50 | spaetz | no tested though |
| 06:33.53 | spaetz | not |
| 06:33.54 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: i'm using git HEAD |
| 06:34.13 | ndnihil | I love gitting head, but really |
| 06:34.16 | ndnihil | ;) |
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| 06:34.34 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: really |
| 06:34.49 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: i don't know about any regressions with it. |
| 06:35.11 | taz0 | im installing SHR |
| 06:35.29 | PaulFertser | Sounds like a threat |
| 06:35.32 | taz0 | next thing is to learn how to package opkg stuff |
| 06:35.40 | taz0 | hehe |
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| 06:36.03 | ndnihil | using git head with shr testing? |
| 06:36.14 | taz0 | no |
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| 06:54.46 | ndnihil | erm, it looks like the kernel for unstable is a month older than for stable? |
| 06:55.34 | ndnihil | s/ stable\?/ testing\?/g |
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| 07:02.55 | spaetz | there is no stable |
| 07:02.59 | spaetz | ignore it |
| 07:03.07 | ndnihil | 01:55 < ndnihil> s/ stable\?/ testing\?/g |
| 07:03.24 | spaetz | ahh |
| 07:04.02 | ndnihil | image for unstable is still a month older than for testing though, at least according to the dates in the repository |
| 07:06.15 | spaetz | ndnihil: the git revs are the same for both |
| 07:06.24 | spaetz | so it's the same kernel actually |
| 07:06.35 | spaetz | SHR is just using whatever FSO/OE uses |
| 07:07.14 | taz0 | SHR is slow compared to OM |
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| 07:09.32 | taz0 | interface is laggy :/ |
| 07:10.54 | ndnihil | go to the wrench in the top bar, then advanced, then engine, and set it to software 16 |
| 07:11.56 | taz0 | advanced? |
| 07:12.12 | ndnihil | scroill it to the right |
| 07:12.36 | ndnihil | s/oil/ol/ |
| 07:12.52 | ndnihil | stabs apt |
| 07:12.55 | taz0 | display look screen input |
| 07:13.16 | ndnihil | theres more |
| 07:13.37 | taz0 | nope |
| 07:13.39 | ndnihil | drag the bar to the right |
| 07:13.44 | ndnihil | I thought the same thing |
| 07:13.46 | taz0 | not for me |
| 07:13.50 | taz0 | it ends there |
| 07:13.52 | ndnihil | the arrows didnt work and I didnt think there was any more |
| 07:13.53 | taz0 | i see the arrow |
| 07:13.55 | ndnihil | ok, drag it to the left |
| 07:14.02 | ndnihil | so you can see the right |
| 07:14.03 | taz0 | oh |
| 07:14.04 | taz0 | haha |
| 07:14.05 | taz0 | ok |
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| 07:15.19 | taz0 | lagging is so bad in my messages thing that i cannot even scroll |
| 07:15.42 | ndnihil | that gets better when you switch the engine |
| 07:15.44 | taz0 | ill keep playing with the settings though |
| 07:16.03 | ndnihil | it did the same to me until someone here recommended that setting |
| 07:16.13 | ndnihil | its usable now |
| 07:16.22 | ndnihil | even that numpty physics game |
| 07:16.29 | ndnihil | the very addicting game |
| 07:18.30 | taz0 | messags are still slow everyrthing else seems alot better |
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| 07:23.11 | taz0 | menus are slow |
| 07:23.22 | taz0 | the finger scrolling |
| 07:25.40 | ndnihil | hrm, gpsctl finds the device |
| 07:25.58 | ndnihil | but gpsd did that |
| 07:26.09 | ndnihil | it's just not returning useful information |
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| 07:31.00 | taz0 | how do i change what memory it boots up first? |
| 07:31.02 | spaetz | it's slow because of an e bug that hogs memory |
| 07:31.05 | taz0 | where do i define it? |
| 07:31.18 | spaetz | check htop if e uses around 30% CPU, you suffer from it |
| 07:31.28 | taz0 | ok ill check |
| 07:31.38 | spaetz | sometimes "killall -SIGHUP enlightenment" fixes it until you reboot |
| 07:31.44 | ndnihil | spaetz: does 20% count? |
| 07:31.49 | spaetz | yep |
| 07:32.11 | taz0 | how much should E take? |
| 07:32.19 | spaetz | sometimes moving a .desktop file from /usr/share/applications to some other dir and back helps (until reboot) |
| 07:32.31 | spaetz | e takes around 0.3% when it's not doing anything, ususally |
| 07:32.38 | ndnihil | hrm, now mine isnt doing it |
| 07:32.53 | ndnihil | at 0.3 oddly enough |
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| 07:33.21 | taz0 | frameworkd peaks at 100% |
| 07:34.05 | spaetz | ndnihil: software engine x11-16 will be faster but also buggy, afaik |
| 07:34.44 | taz0 | when i scroll enlightnement goes up to 30=60% |
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| 07:43.48 | ndnihil | hrm, is there any way to change the timeout for gsm register? |
| 07:43.57 | ndnihil | a convenient/quick way that is |
| 07:45.04 | ndnihil | I get the "no gim card" message 3-5 seconds before the bars+carrier show up |
| 07:45.08 | ndnihil | s/gim/sim/ |
| 07:45.36 | ndnihil | shakes his head |
| 07:45.39 | ndnihil | stupid bot |
| 07:48.33 | taz0 | shr is too slow for me, i get annoyed from it, i will keep on looking ndnihil |
| 07:48.38 | taz0 | thanks for the help though |
| 07:48.47 | ndnihil | qt was quick |
| 07:49.22 | taz0 | but qt is not opkg nor is it apt |
| 07:49.30 | ndnihil | nope |
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| 08:02.11 | ndnihil | ruh ron raggy |
| 08:02.13 | ndnihil | er |
| 08:02.15 | ndnihil | ruh roh |
| 08:02.32 | ndnihil | debian install script chokes |
| 08:02.35 | ndnihil | choked |
| 08:02.40 | ndnihil | looks at his fingers... |
| 08:05.11 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:05.20 | ndnihil | howdy |
| 08:08.19 | ndnihil | Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) |
| 08:08.23 | ndnihil | got EOF thrice - exiting.. |
| 08:08.23 | ndnihil | ./install.sh: line 1412: syntax error: 62032-(62032*128M/2032) |
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| 08:09.15 | methril|work | good mornign |
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| 08:22.34 | ndnihil | doh, it just didnt like the way I specified the swap size |
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| 09:04.16 | naruto | someone told me there was a patch for cpufreq on gta02 |
| 09:04.18 | naruto | is it true? |
| 09:04.34 | naruto | what are the working/tested modes? |
| 09:04.41 | naruto | where i can find the patch? |
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| 09:09.15 | lindi- | naruto: who was someone? |
| 09:10.28 | lindi- | naruto: . [Rask Ingemann La] [RFC 0/3] CPU frequency scaling for GTA02? |
| 09:12.22 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07libeflvala * r613ddd733338 10/vapi/eina.vapi: Fix eina.vapi |
| 09:13.18 | naruto | someone i cant get something from even in my native language |
| 09:13.22 | naruto | (italian) |
| 09:13.32 | lindi- | naruto: rask just posted it to mailing list |
| 09:13.40 | lindi- | naruto: it has the info you need |
| 09:13.46 | naruto | y00 |
| 09:13.48 | naruto | mailing list |
| 09:13.51 | naruto | forgot |
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| 09:37.51 | naruto | lindi-: can you link me to it |
| 09:38.06 | naruto | just cant find it on mail archive, and still not on the list |
| 09:40.21 | naruto | found! |
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| 09:53.24 | PaulFertser | wonders how to tell some users that to start using the openmoko toolchain they should abusing drugs first :-/ |
| 09:53.38 | PaulFertser | s/should/should stop/ |
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| 10:48.06 | anttna_ | Hi all. I've just got a frog pad and i'm looking forward to getting it fired up http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Frogpad alas i'm too busy but maybe tonight |
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| 11:14.35 | Rupert | [shr] is there a limit on the number of contacts that the "Contacts" app can handle? My list goes as far as my R's and that's it. I tried to add an 'S' contact and it worked but when I go back to the list I scroll to the bottom of the list and still 'R' |
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| 11:19.51 | spaetz | Rupert: not taht I'd know off. SIM cards are limited of course |
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| 11:20.09 | saracen | This is becoming really annoying =( |
| 11:20.12 | spaetz | SHR uses whatever FSO gives it. |
| 11:20.17 | saracen | grep: /usr/lib/libeina.la: No such file or directory |
| 11:20.42 | saracen | How do I make the toolchain look in the right place all of the time? It does for some libraries, but others always /usr/lib =( |
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| 12:29.44 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07libeflvala * rd2582781b04f 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Add a simple state machine for view switching + example |
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| 14:34.45 | slaxxin | first stable milestone? |
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| 15:53.53 | Kronk | ello all :) |
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| 16:06.22 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r11a7b38e3515 10/fsogsmd/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsogsm: make it compile again |
| 16:06.23 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rce3d1393f4ae 10/libfsoframework/tests/ (.gitignore Makefile.am testtransport.vala): fsoframework: add testtransport to gitignore |
| 16:06.24 | CIA-54 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r65574bea1aba 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (atcommands.vala commandqueue.vala modem.vala): fsogsmd: first sketch at commandqueue and modem classes |
| 16:07.46 | Chocks | look, pink elephant |
| 16:08.34 | Dave | Chox! |
| 16:09.46 | Chocks | Look, SHR release 1. |
| 16:10.43 | Chocks | Davril Loof |
| 16:11.27 | Dave | ¬_¬ |
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| 16:13.37 | Dave | shit, someone's on the rover |
| 16:13.54 | Chocks | my kingdom for context. |
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| 16:14.09 | Dave | cga :o |
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| 16:14.45 | Chocks | goes back to read about Linux QoS for the 3rd time :| |
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| 16:15.26 | Dave | -_- |
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| 16:41.58 | PBeck | ahoi |
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| 17:30.28 | Chocks | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/betamaxhd.html |
| 17:30.31 | Chocks | check out the video |
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| 18:44.55 | Rakshasa | What must I do to get enlightenment power settings working again? I pressed power repeatedly twice or thrice, the phone hung in the middle of suspend and now I can't change the screen blank or suspend time in config... |
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| 18:45.32 | Rakshasa | I already booted a couple of times and tried removing ~/.e |
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| 19:15.30 | SeligArkin | stabs frameworkd |
| 19:17.44 | zash | dude, how's it going with stuff here? |
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| 19:24.28 | Dave | zash! |
| 19:24.35 | zash | Dave! |
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| 19:26.04 | zash | Dave: whats up |
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| 19:29.24 | Dave | :o |
| 19:29.27 | Dave | pimpin' |
| 19:29.31 | Dave | workin' |
| 19:29.37 | Dave | ignoring openmoko? :D |
| 19:29.59 | DocScrutinizer | dave!!!?! |
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| 19:30.07 | zash | idling ftw |
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| 19:32.37 | Dave | I mean, ... |
| 19:32.40 | Dave | to the batcave! |
| 19:32.41 | Dave | hides |
| 19:33.11 | azaghal | Any suggestions on how I can turn off the wifi on Neo from console? |
| 19:34.18 | lindi- | azaghal: echo s3c2440-sdi | sudo tee $sys_wlan_driver/unbind 2> /dev/null > /dev/null |
| 19:35.12 | azaghal | lindi-: $sys_wlan_driver would be...? |
| 19:35.48 | lindi- | azaghal: depends on your kernel of course. here /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi |
| 19:35.54 | azaghal | Hm... I see. |
| 19:36.04 | azaghal | But why sudo tee? |
| 19:36.26 | lindi- | azaghal: i don't have single quotes in my virtual keyboard |
| 19:36.34 | lindi- | thus no sudo sh -c 'echo 0 > ..' |
| 19:36.42 | azaghal | Heheh, ok. |
| 19:37.09 | azaghal | So I just echo 0 into unbind? |
| 19:37.17 | lindi- | no 0 |
| 19:37.22 | lindi- | echo s3c2440-sdi |
| 19:37.29 | zash | azaghal: if you do sudo echo 0 > afile, only the echoing is done as root, not the writing to the file |
| 19:37.31 | azaghal | Ok, my bad, sorry, thanks ;) |
| 19:38.18 | azaghal | zash: Ok, got it (I think I _might_ want to read tee man page, it seems to do something that I missed in some scripts...) |
| 19:39.02 | SeligArkin | heh |
| 19:39.25 | Dave | Selig Selig Selig |
| 19:39.29 | azaghal | Like outputting to file and stdout at the same time -.- |
| 19:39.34 | SeligArkin | dave dave dave |
| 19:39.54 | Dave | :D |
| 19:42.52 | SeligArkin | does openmoko-messages store tge messages in the sim card or in a file? |
| 19:43.02 | SeligArkin | is a packrat when it comes to her text messages |
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| 19:43.52 | Dave | for me it was SIM |
| 19:44.06 | DocScrutinizer | SeligArkin: afaik it's sim only for now |
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| 19:44.27 | SeligArkin | hmm |
| 19:44.40 | SeligArkin | thats bad |
| 19:44.58 | SeligArkin | considering the count on my old phone when I bricked it was 1000 something text messages stored. >.> |
| 19:45.26 | DocScrutinizer | SeligArkin: yup that's bad. had an argue about that recently ;) |
| 19:46.07 | DocScrutinizer | the bids for sms on sim were 8..12 iirc |
| 19:46.39 | DocScrutinizer | then sms reception stalls :( |
| 19:47.57 | DocScrutinizer | last time I seen this nonsense approach was a nokia 7110(iirc) from '98 |
| 19:48.18 | SeligArkin | also, its repotrting the time for all of them as 1.01.1970 00:00 >< |
| 19:48.29 | DocScrutinizer | even back then it's been considered a bug |
| 19:48.49 | DocScrutinizer | yup, another annoyance |
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| 19:49.30 | SeligArkin | if it is unsab;e to fidn out, it should mark it as the date the phone noticed the message |
| 19:49.46 | DocScrutinizer | reasoning of our HSR friends was "hey that's a good way to archive sms" :D |
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| 19:50.44 | azaghal | lindi-: Just to bug you a bit more - s3c2440-sdi is GTA02? |
| 19:50.47 | DocScrutinizer | SeligArkin: I guess there's simply no field to store date of sms on sim |
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| 20:07.53 | newbie | salve |
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| 20:08.19 | newbie | qualcuno può aiutarmi per favore? |
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| 20:08.58 | Dave | :o |
| 20:09.13 | Dave | I-T-A-L-I-A! \o/ |
| 20:09.21 | newbie | sì italia |
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| 20:36.36 | SeligArkin | ... well that was i9nteresting |
| 20:36.44 | SeligArkin | what was my quit message? |
| 20:37.05 | ndnihil | 15:33 -!- SeligArkin [n=selig@wenduri.darkdna.net] has quit [Read error: 104 |
| 20:37.05 | ndnihil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:42.08 | DukeOfURL | ihello. is there a market for the neo? |
| 20:42.08 | ndnihil | yes there is |
| 20:42.08 | ndnihil | I bought one |
| 20:42.08 | DukeOfURL | what did it cost you? |
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| 20:42.26 | SeligArkin | stabs the neo |
| 20:43.10 | SeligArkin | the sim card is in you stupid thing!@ |
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| 20:44.09 | SeligArkin | I have had to restart this thing more than a windows 95 computer! |
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| 20:55.51 | DukeOfURL | Anyone at Bank station ATM? |
| 20:56.04 | DukeOfURL | tube |
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| 21:00.18 | anttna_ | cool i now have working frogpad :) |
| 21:05.30 | anttna_ | celebrates with some homemade chickpea pancake |
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| 21:11.40 | johnsu01 | anttna_: heh, I also have a frogpad and enjoy making chickpea pancakes :) |
| 21:12.05 | anttna_ | I am to attend this http://mobilemondaybelfast.org/, not sure what to expect but I''ve gotta get a working browser by then |
| 21:12.23 | anttna_ | johnsu01: well what do you know |
| 21:12.38 | anttna_ | *said in a fake 'merican accent |
| 21:13.41 | anttna_ | connecting was a easy, which was a nice suprise |
| 21:16.56 | anttna_ | now I have to learn to type with it, i can't touch type with a qwerty kb very well so it might become my main kb, we'll see |
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| 21:28.52 | badcloud | is there a nes/gb/etc. emulator for debian on the freerunner (w/touchscreen support)? |
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| 22:02.44 | anttna_ | I haven't been able to view the map since i flashed shr about three weeks ago. Now I've connected (for the 1st time since flashing) to the internet via usb it shows up automatically on starting tangogps! |
| 22:02.46 | anttna_ | So I guess the map comes as default with tangogps (or maybe it connects to osm ?) I couldn't configure tangogps to look at my sd card repository, and still can't it crashes when I click the ok tab. |
| 22:02.47 | anttna_ | I haven't had time to look for known causes so don't take this as a request for help, just an observation. The map still shows when not connected to the internet now. |
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| 22:16.21 | shellevil | tango downloads map tiles as it needs them, and caches them in a user-configured directory |
| 22:16.36 | shellevil | and can be asked to download more depth in the current view area |
| 22:17.50 | ndnihil | hrm, anyone had an issue where calls don't want to hang up? (SHR testing) |
| 22:18.54 | ndnihil | and subsequent calls dont come through |
| 22:21.17 | Weiss | ndnihil: possibly you need to upgrade your GSM firmware? |
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| 22:21.44 | ndnihil | possible |
| 22:21.50 | Weiss | there are flow control fixes in Moko11 which possibly sound like they could fix that |
| 22:23.21 | ndnihil | do you know how to check the current firmware revision off the top of your head? |
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| 22:25.17 | Weiss | in SHR? Settings->Phone->Modem information or something |
| 22:25.27 | Weiss | i just broke my xorg input drivers, so i can't check just now :) |
| 22:25.35 | anttna_ | shellevil: hi, i can view right down to z17 but my cofig says the default directory, i think it is pointing to my sd card even though it doesn't say so. thanks |
| 22:25.36 | ndnihil | doh! |
| 22:31.33 | ndnihil | hrm, recommendations on the gsm firmware upgrade method? |
| 22:31.39 | billk_ | anttna_: its probably not! - look inside the Maps directory in /home/root for thr maps |
| 22:31.46 | ndnihil | this uSD-card versions looks nice and simple |
| 22:31.58 | ndnihil | s/versions/version/ |
| 22:32.01 | ndnihil | stabs apt |
| 22:32.21 | billk_ | anttna_: rm -rf /home/root/Maps, ln -s SDcardMapDir /home/root/Maps |
| 22:32.27 | shellevil | Ant: you should be able to explicitly tell it /media/card/maps |
| 22:32.35 | billk_ | anttna_: and tangogps stays happy |
| 22:33.08 | anttna_ | billk: I previously downloaded to my sd card, no way the default is to z17 surely? |
| 22:33.15 | billk_ | shellevil: some versions of tangogps cant deal with the change - jusr crash |
| 22:33.38 | anttna_ | shellevil: i only know how to via the gui, but it crashes when i click ok |
| 22:34.13 | Weiss | ndnihil: the uSD card is the officially recommended one, i think (?) |
| 22:34.32 | ndnihil | eh, they call it "beta" on the wiki |
| 22:34.38 | Weiss | i used the manual method for the Moko10 upgrade a few months ago, and that was ok for me - but SD looks easier |
| 22:34.38 | ndnihil | but the whole phone is beta if you ask me :) |
| 22:35.04 | shellevil | ndnihil: beta is perhaps optimistic |
| 22:35.09 | ndnihil | downloading the SD image now |
| 22:35.55 | ndnihil | it'll come around, I hope |
| 22:37.45 | Weiss | i have reliable phone/SMS and decent battery at the moment, and i can screw around with all kinds of low-level stuff. that's more than "beta quality happiness" :) |
| 22:38.11 | ndnihil | the only thing I've really had a bitch of a time with is the stupid gps |
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| 22:38.35 | ndnihil | it worked great on one flash |
| 22:38.39 | ndnihil | but hasn't since |
| 22:38.53 | Weiss | hmm yeah, there are problems with that in SHR-testing at the moment (i have that too) |
| 22:38.53 | ndnihil | funny part is, it worked on the same shr testing image I'm running now |
| 22:39.09 | Weiss | i think some people were hot on the trail of that a few days ago, though |
| 22:39.49 | ndnihil | I've been dicking around with it, but made no tangible progress |
| 22:40.55 | Weiss | iirc, it was something to do with the GPS hardware crashing when it was fed the AGPS data |
| 22:41.20 | Weiss | hmm, touchscreen un-broken, but axes swapped |
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| 22:51.20 | ndnihil | hah |
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| 22:51.52 | ndnihil | I just noticed the afterthought resistor/cap/other passive component soldered across two pins of the uSD card carrier |
| 22:52.17 | Weiss | hehe, yep |
| 22:53.23 | anttna_ | ndnihil: that's an upgrade wow with other phones we'd probably pay extra :D |
| 22:54.55 | ndnihil | well, it's upgrading the GSM firmware |
| 22:54.56 | ndnihil | I think |
| 22:59.24 | ndnihil | got a green 'done' |
| 23:03.37 | ndnihil | chants "no whammies" over and over |
| 23:04.57 | ndnihil | wow |
| 23:05.17 | ndnihil | for the first time, it registered on the network before the "no sim card/cant register" message |
| 23:05.38 | ndnihil | it was coming up repeatedly at ~5s after that message |
| 23:06.33 | ndnihil | looks good |
| 23:07.59 | ndnihil | call hung up properlyand new incoming calls work |
| 23:08.00 | ndnihil | sweet |
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| 23:11.06 | anttna_ | updates my todo list | flash gsm |
| 23:11.26 | anttna_ | night |
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| 23:11.55 | Weiss | ndnihil: great stuff |
| 23:14.03 | ndnihil | <-- loves it when a plan comes together |
| 23:14.56 | Weiss | :D |
| 23:15.39 | ndnihil | I should finish making the stand for it |
| 23:19.19 | ndnihil | hrm, I suppose I should report this bug, haven't seen anything about it in the past several days of reading through crap |
| 23:19.45 | ndnihil | Weiss: do you run SHR? |
| 23:21.21 | Weiss | yep |
| 23:21.52 | ndnihil | do you get a file: /0<lots of whitespace> ? |
| 23:22.04 | ndnihil | where someone got their vars switched around |
| 23:22.20 | ndnihil | echo /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on > /0 |
| 23:22.21 | Weiss | ah, yes |
| 23:22.24 | ndnihil | where it should have been |
| 23:22.27 | ndnihil | echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on |
| 23:23.00 | ndnihil | do you know if there's already a ticket for it? |
| 23:23.19 | ndnihil | haven't seen one |
| 23:23.24 | ndnihil | but I miss things |
| 23:24.33 | Weiss | i haven't looked, to be honest |
| 23:25.57 | ndnihil | registering on the shr trac now |
| 23:27.56 | ndnihil | you've got to be fucking kidding me |
| 23:28.01 | ndnihil | days after I ordered mine |
| 23:28.05 | ndnihil | and paid full price |
| 23:28.12 | ndnihil | they drop it to $299 |
| 23:34.51 | ndnihil | doesnt look like I'll be submitting the ticket, it wants me to verify my email address before doing so, and I've already verified it thrice thus far |
| 23:35.14 | ndnihil | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.19 | ndnihil | Notice: Your email is already verified |
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| 23:41.30 | DocScrutinizer | ndnihil: SHR? |
| 23:41.35 | ndnihil | yep |
| 23:41.46 | ndnihil | testing version |
| 23:41.49 | DocScrutinizer | hehe, same with me last week |
| 23:42.19 | DocScrutinizer | nah, email verification |
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| 23:43.02 | DocScrutinizer | was a veritable drama ;) |
| 23:43.48 | ndnihil | what was the fix? |
| 23:44.32 | DocScrutinizer | lol, they fixed it by hand, setting my permissions |
| 23:44.47 | ndnihil | doh, who do I contact? |
| 23:45.27 | DocScrutinizer | the recommendation however was NOT to supply any email addr ;D |
| 23:46.12 | DocScrutinizer | ptitjies, ainulindale? dunno |
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