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| 00:40.40 | SeligArkin | How charged does the freerunner come? |
| 00:41.04 | SeligArkin | am I going to have to charge it beore use, and if so, howlong charge will it be? |
| 00:41.18 | SeligArkin | likes playing with her things asap. >.> |
| 00:51.08 | ColdFyre | .. |
| 00:51.14 | ColdFyre | it's like ..75% |
| 00:52.14 | timur | well, once again probably no one cares, but the PyBluez stuff actually does work fine in 2008.09. score :) |
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| 01:03.37 | vininim | rhkfin: deadline for registraion is? |
| 01:03.56 | vininim | (om competition, was reading buffer) |
| 01:04.30 | shellevil | competition? |
| 01:05.25 | shellevil | where in the world is PaulF? |
| 01:06.37 | vininim | sleeping it seems |
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| 01:16.12 | shellevil | I mean - geographically |
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| 01:17.15 | max_posedon | shellevil, he is from Moscow |
| 01:17.17 | mwester | PaulF is not of this world, I think. He is an interdimensional being, who pops in and out as the fabric of reality ripples in the space-time continuum.... |
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| 01:27.09 | ColdFyre | tick tock |
| 01:34.04 | SeligArkin | well this is bad |
| 01:34.18 | SeligArkin | I bricked my old 8525 |
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| 01:35.52 | SeligArkin | so... I has no backup now.>.>; |
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| 02:08.38 | ColdFyre | hah |
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| 02:42.11 | slaxxin | just giong to have to use the neo now:) |
| 02:44.10 | Dave | sucks :p |
| 02:51.31 | slaxxin | tried android beta3? |
| 02:51.46 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:55.18 | Dave | hah |
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| 03:09.30 | vininim_ | now that was odd |
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| 04:23.24 | KungFuJesus | When is the next iteration of openMoko out? |
| 04:23.54 | shellevil | there are new software versions almost daily |
| 04:24.13 | KungFuJesus | I mean hardware platform, the SoC flaw makes it a poor video player |
| 04:24.54 | slaxxin | at least christmas |
| 04:25.15 | slaxxin | maybe 2010 |
| 04:25.46 | slaxxin | it would be very cool if im wrong though |
| 04:26.56 | shellevil | it's not really a SoC flaw - if the SoC handled the video - as it can - it'd probably work better. |
| 04:26.58 | shellevil | but... |
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| 04:38.27 | slaxxin | lpotter so what ya up to now? |
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| 04:40.10 | lpotter | working on Qt stuff mostly |
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| 04:57.44 | Dave | : |
| 04:57.48 | Dave | :\ |
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| 05:04.34 | slaxxin | so will we have a working QT for the moko? |
| 05:04.44 | slaxxin | for free? |
| 05:05.21 | lpotter | QT is quicktime |
| 05:05.42 | slaxxin | oo |
| 05:06.05 | lpotter | Qt already works on the OM :) |
| 05:07.26 | ColdFyre | QT= cutie |
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| 06:52.05 | jyro | hi, i am running SHR on my FR, and the enlightenment daemon is taking constant 30% CPU, is there any way i can use a different window manager? |
| 06:54.24 | PaulFert` | jyro: i wonder if a magic workaround works for you "move a desktop file from /usr/share/applications to /tmp, wait a few seconds, move it back". |
| 06:55.37 | jyro | PaulFert: can u explain a bit, what that will achieve? |
| 06:55.58 | PaulFert` | jyro: some people say that it will stop E cpu hogging. |
| 06:56.30 | PaulFert` | jyro: i'm not sure if they're packaged for SHR but many people are using LXDE or matchbox with Debian. |
| 06:57.16 | jyro | yeah i flashed debian on the microSD, but can't get it to boot for some reason |
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| 06:58.20 | jyro | PaulFert: wow, you were right |
| 06:58.39 | jyro | i moved pidgin.desktop and it has helped |
| 06:58.46 | jyro | now enlightenment is at 2.5% |
| 06:58.57 | jyro | PaulFert: thanks a lot |
| 07:00.00 | PaulFert` | jyro: You're welcome. That's the workaround billk posted on the community mailing list btw :) |
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| 07:28.18 | rhkfin | vininim: registration deadline is in two days but it's kind of soft date, just to let us know how many are participating, see http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/announcing-the-first-programming-competition-for-openmoko-phones/ |
| 07:28.37 | rhkfin | shellevil: yes, competition: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/announcing-the-first-programming-competition-for-openmoko-phones/ |
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| 07:43.29 | firedragen | Hi... Can I ask a question that about Android on FreeRunner? |
| 07:43.55 | tomboy64 | firedragen, you might wanna find more response in #freerunner-android for that |
| 07:44.09 | firedragen | got it, thx :) |
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| 08:34.23 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 09:46.19 | laen | Offcourse, another barely portable ipk/opk crap contest! |
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| 09:46.39 | laen | shoots the OM community in the head, at least 5 times. |
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| 09:59.37 | tig| | laen: a tad harsh, what for this time? |
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| 10:15.50 | laen | =) |
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| 10:24.25 | rhkfin | laen: tell me what's wrong with the competition |
| 10:28.05 | laen | Well, not the competition itself, but with the community. I don't see why we need ipk/opk crap while we could just code regular linux apps which will work on any platform.. no, we're now making stuff that will _only_ work when using opkg and E and and and.. |
| 10:28.34 | laen | Oh well, said this before, no use whatsoever. Have fun with it. |
| 10:29.01 | rhkfin | heh, thanks :) |
| 10:29.21 | laen | All just a lost case anyway. |
| 10:29.35 | rhkfin | smells some pessimism around here.. |
| 10:29.43 | laen | Yush! :) |
| 10:30.13 | laen | Cause you're all too optimistic coding around without thinking about what we're actually doing. |
| 10:31.13 | rhkfin | need to have a feeling to be able to do something.. |
| 10:31.32 | laen | Well i can understand that yeah. |
| 10:32.09 | rhkfin | It's too bad that the base where people want to build isn't maybe.. that finished yet |
| 10:32.58 | laen | But then at least create code which is not locked into E and other Openmoko-required stuff, give the code, and give opkg as _additional_ thing. |
| 10:34.06 | rhkfin | Understand that and I hope others get it too.. |
| 10:39.12 | laen | Same thing is the widespread projects people put time into.. they copy a distribution and put on another WM and suddenly, they're claiming they made another distribution! False! Like Ubuntu, Kubuntu Xubuntu WhateverBuntu, Crunchbang.. it's all still the same distribution: Ubuntu. |
| 10:40.08 | laen | Oh well. |
| 10:42.20 | rhkfin | laen: I agree that it's the same distro and I'd think many Buntu people agree. |
| 10:43.46 | laen | Oh one last thing i wanna rant about :P |
| 10:45.48 | laen | What is up with the french? Do they still think they are the ubermensch? The whole world can mostly read and sometimes write in english.. But noooo french people ignore everyone and not only at the openmoko blog and projects, they do it everywhere.. Someone gotta remind em they forgot to start the 3rd world war. |
| 10:46.13 | laen | I mean, they just write everything in french and do not even take time to translate. |
| 10:46.16 | laen | K, done ranting :) |
| 10:47.33 | rhkfin | heh, agreed again :) But I guess we just have to try to live with it.. |
| 10:48.19 | laen | Yup. Unfortunately :) |
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| 10:51.38 | tig| | hmm with SHR my freerunner is flirting as being usable as my main phone, all I need now really is the buzz fix |
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| 10:56.13 | henk | tig|: same here... |
| 10:57.15 | laen | tig|: wasn't that really hardware related? |
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| 10:59.40 | mwester | yep, hardware -- no software will ever be able to fix it. |
| 11:00.08 | henk | needs to find soldering equipment, so my gf can fix it... |
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| 11:01.47 | laen | Oo |
| 11:02.08 | laen | Interesting. My girlfriend was shouting at me pissed off last week and made me switch to a normal daily phone again ^_^ :) |
| 11:02.30 | henk | any ideas where i can borrow soldering equipment suited for fixing that issue in zuerich? |
| 11:02.41 | laen | You can fix it? |
| 11:02.44 | henk | laen: lol, my gf is kind of a geek luckily :) |
| 11:03.22 | laen | No i mean, is it really fixable with soldering etc? |
| 11:03.47 | henk | laen: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/ |
| 11:04.13 | laen | I'm surprised TI didn't respond to the problem btw. |
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| 11:04.43 | mwester | It's not a TI problem. |
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| 11:05.27 | mwester | It's an audio circuit problem; lack of shielding/RFI suppression in some key signal lines. |
| 11:05.49 | DocScrutinizer | mwester: lack of some beads ;) |
| 11:06.27 | mwester | Yep. a few pennies worth. reminds me of that poem about for want of a nail the kingdom was lost, or something like that. |
| 11:06.42 | laen | So that bead that doesn't fit.. isn't it possible to connect a wire between it somewhere and stuff the bead where it would fit? |
| 11:07.13 | laen | Ask your gf :) |
| 11:07.34 | mwester | is completely certain, given the effort DocScrutinizer put into solving that one, that the fix he posted is the simplest possible solution. |
| 11:07.37 | henk | she doesn't know anything about electronics, just about soldering... |
| 11:08.08 | tig| | DocScrutinizer: I know you are no longer in charge of the fix now it has been finalised but do you know if there has been a push to green light it for the resellers or if it will be worth me trying to find someone to do the fix for me instead? |
| 11:08.28 | tig| | instead of waiting for an OM/Reseller fix |
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| 11:09.50 | DocScrutinizer | tig|: even me doesn't know for sure what's going on with resellers and "green light". Probably it's all about money. |
| 11:10.23 | DocScrutinizer | tig|: I know nevertheless OM is testing A6 buzz fix rework in a larger scale right ATM |
| 11:10.42 | laen | mwester: which one is that? |
| 11:10.54 | DocScrutinizer | dunno if this will result in a recommendation / field change order or sth eventually |
| 11:11.17 | laen | Ah wait, nvm mwester :) |
| 11:12.09 | tig| | DocScrutinizer: thanks, I will sit tight then for moment unless I find someone handy with SMT skills :) |
| 11:12.32 | DocScrutinizer | tig|: fair enough ;) |
| 11:12.47 | tig| | (mine extend as far as don't hold the hot end of the soldering iron) :) |
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| 11:13.34 | mwester | is going to send his to PaulFert` next he travels to .ru ;-) |
| 11:16.37 | tig| | thinking about it there must be someone here that can do it, I work on a science park full of tech companies... will have to ask around |
| 11:16.48 | SpeedEvil | In soviet russia, phone fixes PaulFert`. |
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| 12:22.48 | serdar1 | do I need a vfat and a ext3 on my sd card or can I use every fs? |
| 12:23.11 | mwester | for what? |
| 12:23.41 | serdar1 | I think my card is broken, I can flash however I want but I cannot boot again |
| 12:24.20 | mwester | why should failures to boot after flashing indicate a broken sd card? |
| 12:24.30 | mwester | Usually that would indicate a broken image. |
| 12:24.37 | mwester | or a broken bootloader config. |
| 12:25.09 | serdar1 | I tried 3 kinds of android images, now I am trying a fyp image at work with windows. |
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| 12:25.57 | serdar1 | how can I change the bootloader config without flashing u-boot? or do I need flash u-boot, because I tried that and have no success |
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| 12:27.17 | henk | serdar1: you need to flash a customized uboot env. but you shouldn't use uboot anyway, qi is recommended and that doesn't need a config. |
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| 12:27.43 | serdar1 | but the flashing option called u-boot or did that changed? |
| 12:27.56 | serdar1 | I was useing qi right now |
| 12:28.34 | henk | serdar1: hu? you don't need uboot, if that's your question. |
| 12:28.38 | mwester | Ah, yes, well then you could have all sorts of troubles. |
| 12:29.06 | serdar1 | I use flashmoko u-boot qi-image what's wrong with that? |
| 12:29.41 | henk | flashmoko? u-boot qi-image? sounds _all_ wrong to me 'g' |
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| 12:30.23 | serdar1 | hm? |
| 12:30.45 | henk | serdar1: what is 'flashmoko'? whats a 'u-boot qi-image'? |
| 12:31.29 | serdar1 | cat /usr/bin/flashmoko |
| 12:31.31 | serdar1 | args |
| 12:32.24 | serdar1 | dfu-util -a $1 -R -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -D $2 |
| 12:32.27 | serdar1 | that's it |
| 12:32.52 | henk | ah ok, yes that should be flashed correctly then... |
| 12:33.03 | henk | serdar1: and you flashed fyp's kernel and rootfs image? |
| 12:33.54 | serdar1 | no I am now flashing fyp's kernel and rootfs |
| 12:33.55 | serdar1 | the rootfs is still going 2h ago and is not finished, I hate windows. |
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| 13:05.25 | SeligArkin | \o/ 03/13/2009 7:23 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY |
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| 13:06.14 | tig|1 | SeligArkin: ah your pain is about to begin :) |
| 13:07.09 | SeligArkin | heh |
| 13:07.18 | SeligArkin | woot? :P |
| 13:08.21 | rhkfin | := |
| 13:08.21 | tig|1 | is it an A7 version? |
| 13:08.47 | SeligArkin | rhkfin is zoidberg!? |
| 13:09.41 | rhkfin | SeligArkin: brlbrlblrblrlblrrlblrbllrlb! |
| 13:09.42 | DocScrutinizer | Cesar is a prime-number? |
| 13:10.16 | SeligArkin | tig|1: not sure |
| 13:10.32 | DocScrutinizer | it's not |
| 13:10.54 | DocScrutinizer | A7 not shipping yet AFAIK |
| 13:11.15 | SpeedEvil | doc|home: any idea of stocks of A6, and time to? |
| 13:11.45 | DocScrutinizer | there'sa quite a number of A6 on stock, which will get buzzfix right now |
| 13:12.59 | DocScrutinizer | maybe first A6 with buzzfix are shipping, maybe first A7 are shipping ATVM, I dunno for sure |
| 13:13.48 | rhkfin | That's information that would interest the community, for sure - but then again 'random' delivery is fair for everyone.. |
| 13:14.23 | DocScrutinizer | I'm not supposed to announce anything, as I'm no OM employee any more |
| 13:14.44 | SpeedEvil | diddn't know. |
| 13:14.55 | DocScrutinizer | and I don't know anything for sure, so all this just AFAIK |
| 13:14.55 | SpeedEvil | Or /me forgot more likely. |
| 13:16.47 | rhkfin | wonders who's still left at OM.. raster gone, DocScrutinizer gone, ... Andy still there, I guess, and Angus as Distro manager |
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| 13:19.27 | DocScrutinizer | well I consider myself to be a member of "inner circle" still (whatever THAT means) ;-) It's just my contributions aren't payed anymore :D |
| 13:19.53 | rwhitby | DocScrutinizer: and you can't get fired for speaking out now ;-) |
| 13:20.04 | DocScrutinizer | lol, right :D |
| 13:20.14 | SpeedEvil | would imagine certain nondisclosure agreements. |
| 13:20.17 | DocScrutinizer | a BIG advantage |
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| 13:20.26 | serdar1 | I hate this day :/ |
| 13:20.29 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: sure there are |
| 13:20.38 | DocScrutinizer | and I'll adhere to them |
| 13:20.41 | rwhitby | SpeedEvil: sure, but none that cover calling someone an idiot ;-) |
| 13:20.55 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 13:20.56 | serdar1 | the whole day I cannot flash and I am working at Helpdesk they are rolling me over |
| 13:21.09 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: you have a new job somewhere or 'between contracts |
| 13:21.11 | rhkfin | :) |
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| 13:22.16 | rwhitby | So I have this GTA02 connected by USB to a Fon2 device, and am trying to ssh into it via usbnet. |
| 13:22.21 | rwhitby | pings work, but ssh doesn't. |
| 13:22.29 | rhkfin | serdar1: still trying with Windows? Windows isn't OM-compatible :)(nothing wrong with FR, of course!) |
| 13:22.33 | rwhitby | I can ssh into it from another linux host no problem. |
| 13:22.40 | DocScrutinizer | took a little "offtime", now starting to look for new challenges |
| 13:22.42 | rwhitby | I run tcpdump at both ends of the connection. |
| 13:22.51 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: nice |
| 13:23.56 | SeligArkin | I think there are usbnet drivers for windows somewhere,my old router had a usb port for using it like that, and I would not think them to provide the port if windows doesn't support it |
| 13:24.42 | rwhitby | the neo responds fine to the ssh connection, but the Fon2 seems to be ignoring the packet that comes back. |
| 13:25.10 | rwhitby | Hmm - I guess this might be a Fon2 MIPS usbnet kernel problem rather than anything to do with the FreeRunner. |
| 13:29.50 | DocScrutinizer | out for brunch |
| 13:31.38 | rhkfin | Everyone here have heard about the programming competition? http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/juryupdated-rules-for-the-om-programming-competition/ |
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| 13:32.50 | rhkfin | oops, meant http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/announcing-the-first-programming-competition-for-openmoko-phones/ |
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| 13:40.51 | DocScrutinizer | WTF support for headphones???? |
| 13:41.10 | DocScrutinizer | shouldn't this be "support for native ALSA" ? |
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| 13:42.26 | DocScrutinizer | *NO* app is supposed to meddle with speaker/headphones switching directly |
| 13:43.08 | DocScrutinizer | as it will lead to all funny kinds of incompatibilities. |
| 13:44.09 | rhkfin | DocScrutinizer: good point.. |
| 13:44.17 | rhkfin | want to add it to the comments? |
| 13:44.20 | DocScrutinizer | mickey laurel, hihihi. |
| 13:44.33 | DocScrutinizer | His name is Lauer |
| 13:44.42 | DocScrutinizer | AFAIK |
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| 13:45.20 | rhkfin | hmm.. interesting .) |
| 13:45.32 | DocScrutinizer | nah, me not even here anymore ;-) I'm enjoying my virtual brunch right this moment :-/ |
| 13:45.35 | rhkfin | indeed, you're right :) |
| 13:45.45 | SeligArkin | virtual brunch? |
| 13:45.52 | SeligArkin | stares blanklyy |
| 13:46.04 | DocScrutinizer | well it looks like my laptop ATM |
| 13:46.04 | SeligArkin | what is that, a picture of bacon on the screen when talking to people? |
| 13:46.24 | DocScrutinizer | always needs some hours to leave home :-( |
| 13:47.01 | DocScrutinizer | away no for real |
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| 13:47.47 | SeligArkin | bye |
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| 14:28.26 | kW | Hello, does anybody experience usage differences between GTA02v5 and GTA02v6 (e.g. battery usage, GPS fix time, noise when talking over the phone, ...)? |
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| 14:57.29 | Tuju | for fedora users, there is dfu-util http://bugzilla.redhat.com/463140 available in f10 and rawhide. |
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| 15:35.28 | psdr | hey all |
| 15:35.40 | psdr | Anyone know why i get |
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| 15:35.47 | psdr | "/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: Emergency failed: org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.NotAnEmergencyNumber" |
| 15:35.50 | psdr | even though i am trying an emergency number ? |
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| 15:39.10 | psdr | anyone? :\ |
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| 16:27.06 | kW | has anyone tried android on freerunner? |
| 16:27.39 | tomboy64 | kW, may i redirect you to #freerunner-android? |
| 16:28.16 | kW | thank you :-) |
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| 16:46.23 | unlotto | hey guys. I'm looking for "Michael Trimarchi's images with latest fixes" at http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/ but it seems to be down. Do any of you have the cupcake updated image? |
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| 16:48.45 | psdr | בוט -_- |
| 16:56.34 | unlotto | I found this mirror http://www.fragcom.de/android/ |
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| 17:01.11 | roh | hm.. do the android guys have some bandwith problem? |
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| 17:05.12 | joejoe | unlotto: try http://www.koolu.com/~marcelo/ (it should be lastest non public beta from koolu - they trying to integrate all changes...) |
| 17:05.55 | unlotto | Thanks joejoe I see it has cupcake aswell |
| 17:06.31 | joejoe | it should be published soon as official koolu beta |
| 17:08.11 | joejoe | further discussion should be in #freerunner-android .. |
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| 17:23.04 | SomeT | hi |
| 17:23.15 | SomeT | i am thinking of getting one of these phonrs |
| 17:23.24 | SomeT | but am trying to find out something before i buy |
| 17:23.45 | SomeT | i want to know if there as many applications out there as there are for other versions of linux |
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| 17:24.31 | unlotto | honestly if you want to use it as a phone I think you should wait +6 months. |
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| 17:26.23 | max_posedon | SomeT, most of all linux apps can be compiled and used on neo |
| 17:26.34 | max_posedon | better question is their usability |
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| 17:32.30 | SomeT | cool |
| 17:32.49 | SomeT | just wondering as am currently going to begin training as an ethical hacker |
| 17:32.59 | SomeT | and am dead interested in computer security |
| 17:33.08 | SomeT | especially within mobile devices such as these |
| 17:34.27 | henk | SomeT: i run debian on the phone and there are more or less the same software packages available as for the x86 debian on my laptop. |
| 17:34.45 | SomeT | cool |
| 17:34.53 | SomeT | i done that with an eeepc i had |
| 17:35.01 | SomeT | im not the most advanced user on linux to be honest |
| 17:35.11 | SomeT | as i dont have much free time to learn it fully |
| 17:35.18 | SomeT | which is why i love mobile devices with it on, haha |
| 17:37.07 | max_posedon | I can't say that neo is user ready |
| 17:37.20 | max_posedon | it is still more for developers and geeks |
| 17:39.39 | SomeT | ah cool |
| 17:39.44 | SomeT | thanks for the info anyway |
| 17:39.55 | SomeT | some aspects of it does seem a bit complex for me to be honest |
| 17:40.03 | SomeT | anyway gotta go |
| 17:40.05 | SomeT | thanks again |
| 17:40.06 | SomeT | cya |
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| 17:49.31 | tomboy64 | oh |
| 17:49.40 | tomboy64 | someone actually using ctrlproxy |
| 17:49.47 | tomboy64 | dwmw2_gone, |
| 17:49.52 | tomboy64 | you still read this? |
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| 17:58.19 | Zorkman | anybody using the swo keyboard? |
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| 17:58.55 | johnsu01 | Zorkman: what's that? |
| 17:59.25 | Zorkman | i mean "qwo" |
| 17:59.28 | Zorkman | i'll give you link |
| 17:59.35 | henk | Zorkman: i am |
| 17:59.36 | Zorkman | http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ |
| 17:59.40 | Zorkman | http://www.opkg.org/package_84.html |
| 17:59.41 | johnsu01 | oh, qwo I know |
| 17:59.55 | henk | bbs |
| 18:00.01 | DocScrutinizer | qwo wadis? |
| 18:00.05 | Zorkman | lol :) |
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| 18:00.34 | Zorkman | when i try to type the "shift", it works, but i also always get a "5" |
| 18:01.10 | Zorkman | i go: center -> upper left --> bottom left --> center |
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| 18:07.22 | Zorkman | going center center -> upper left --> bottom left --> upper right does work |
| 18:07.34 | henk | Zorkman: be careful about the 'touches'. i had the same just now and tried again, making sure i'm not accidentally hitting the middle twice. |
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| 18:08.14 | Zorkman | i'm not hitting it accidently, i even tested it 20+ times with a stylus |
| 18:08.21 | Zorkman | that doesn't leave the surface of my fr |
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| 18:43.25 | Aelia | hi |
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| 18:57.38 | kW | Hello, does anybody know how to remove the PIN from a SIM? |
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| 19:00.35 | PaulFert` | kW: AT+CLCK="SC",0 |
| 19:00.43 | PaulFert` | kW: i guess that should work |
| 19:00.54 | kW | thank you |
| 19:01.50 | spydon | how do I know which version of the freerunner I have? |
| 19:02.02 | PaulFert` | spydon: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 19:02.14 | spydon | thx |
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| 19:09.41 | spydon | where am I supposed to write this "setenv" command so I can have a kernel bigger then 2mb with uboot? |
| 19:10.12 | PaulFert` | spydon: uboot console (via usb acm) |
| 19:10.31 | spydon | How do I get it up? :P |
| 19:10.45 | henk | spydon: just use qi instead ;) |
| 19:11.08 | spydon | henk, I do now, but to test android I need u-boot :P |
| 19:11.23 | henk | spydon: really? why? |
| 19:11.41 | spydon | qi is really buggy with the latest android image |
| 19:11.50 | PaulFert` | spydon: qi buggy? prove or leave |
| 19:12.02 | spydon | or android buggy with qi :P |
| 19:12.11 | PaulFert` | spydon: that's ok, i agree :) |
| 19:12.16 | henk | spydon: ah i remember i had that discussion with someone else... it's not... exactly. probably not qi's but uboot/android's fault. |
| 19:12.44 | spydon | okay, but how do I get to type anything in the uboot console? |
| 19:12.59 | PaulFert` | henk: probably it was me. And Androids problems were misdiagnosed (like "contacts doesn't work" or smth like that). |
| 19:13.04 | SpeedEvil | minicom (or whatever) /dev/ttyACM0 on the host side spydon |
| 19:13.17 | SpeedEvil | spydon: you need the cdc_acm module too on the host |
| 19:13.18 | PaulFert` | spydon: i think in case you have problems, wiki has instructions. |
| 19:13.24 | SpeedEvil | spydon: that too |
| 19:13.53 | henk | PaulFert`: hm, i think i'd remember if it was you... but it was about contacts, right :) |
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| 19:15.25 | spydon | thx :) |
| 19:15.38 | henk | SpeedEvil: if you haven't fixed your bold ':' till christmas i'll really read the docs and tell you how to disable it! |
| 19:15.51 | PaulFert` | It's possible that Android used an old kernel which doesn't initialize some GPIO lines as outputs and therefore is unable to communitacate with the modem. Since then it was discussed on kernel ml, and Andy reverted Qi behaviour to the stupid one which works even with broken kernel. |
| 19:16.51 | PaulFert` | max_posedon: How's the weather in Minsk? :) |
| 19:17.12 | max_posedon | Fine! Spring nere) |
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| 19:17.41 | PaulFert` | Same for us. Almost clear sky, warm air. |
| 19:18.20 | max_posedon | he-he, I even heard birds today), Have your birds in Moscow?) |
| 19:18.53 | SeligArkin | Woot, I has my phone now |
| 19:19.01 | mmontour | yay |
| 19:19.15 | PaulFert` | We even have elks in Moscow :) |
| 19:19.35 | PaulFert` | SeligArkin: are you going to do the buzz fix RIGHT NOW? ;) |
| 19:19.59 | max_posedon | PaulFert`, you miss smth, I think you mean bears) |
| 19:20.12 | SeligArkin | PaulFert`: it |
| 19:20.21 | SeligArkin | PaulFert`: it's not even connecting to the gsm network it seems... |
| 19:20.31 | PaulFert` | (a bit too early for birds though, haven't heard them yet. Probably because i was at the polytechincs museum, no live birds inside ;) ) |
| 19:20.44 | PaulFert` | SeligArkin: Upgrade the GSM firmware |
| 19:21.53 | PaulFert` | max_posedon: http://www.dorprobka.ru/news.php?id=3889 |
| 19:22.05 | SeligArkin | likes the pen/stylus that came with the phone |
| 19:22.28 | henk | SeligArkin: imho it should have been 2cm shorter to better fit into the pouch... |
| 19:23.17 | PaulFert` | Imho that it should have been a small soldering iron to aid the buzz fix :) |
| 19:23.24 | SeligArkin | hehe |
| 19:23.29 | max_posedon | PaulFert`, in minsk I really heard them [birds] |
| 19:23.29 | max_posedon | so, wait 2-3 days |
| 19:23.56 | PaulFert` | max_posedon: ok :) |
| 19:24.30 | SeligArkin | hmm, what IP does the neo have over usbnet? >.>; |
| 19:24.40 | henk | 192.168.0.202 |
| 19:24.41 | mmontour | 192.168.0.202 |
| 19:24.47 | SeligArkin | thanks.:P |
| 19:24.50 | PaulFert` | max_posedon: Have you ever seen this theatre? http://www.svabodny.kantakt.net/history.htm |
| 19:25.30 | max_posedon | I don't( |
| 19:25.55 | SeligArkin | pokes it |
| 19:26.33 | SeligArkin | pokes it repeatadly |
| 19:29.12 | SeligArkin | pokes ubuntu to let her connect |
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| 19:29.57 | SeligArkin | most importantly,I need a new keyboard program for this, I *hate* number typing |
| 19:32.01 | PaulFert` | SeligArkin: uSD image for flashing GSM does it fully automatically, no usbnet required. |
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| 19:32.53 | SeligArkin | PaulFert`: uSD image? |
| 19:32.55 | SeligArkin | stares blankly |
| 19:33.28 | PaulFert` | SeligArkin: how are you going to flash your GSM modem? |
| 19:33.45 | SeligArkin | I was focusing on getting the OS up to date first |
| 19:34.11 | DocScrutinizer | who's been the GTA01 user asking about Nokia-BL-5C bat compatibility? |
| 19:34.40 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r172afdb8cd53 10/libfsoframework/ (6 files in 2 dirs): add SmartKeyFile.sectionsWithPrefix() |
| 19:34.41 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rb6f41269f28b 10/libfsoframework/ (10 files in 2 dirs): start with subsystem class |
| 19:34.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r8a984451cf42 10/libfsoframework/ (9 files in 3 dirs): add subsystem tests |
| 19:34.43 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra2907561ab9e 10/libfsoframework/ (10 files in 2 dirs): subsystem passes tests |
| 19:34.45 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r60315efee6e4 10/libfsoframework/ (6 files in 2 dirs): factory can return an empty string to indicate an initialization error |
| 19:34.48 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2ba3a0122904 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/ (fsoframework-2.0.gir fsoframework-2.0.vapi plugin.vala): revert exception change |
| 19:34.51 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r56a7c4d4f1d9 10/libfsoframework/ (4 files in 2 dirs): s/theMasterLogger/createLogger/g |
| 19:34.54 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfa5049859cc5 10/fsodeviced/ (configure.ac src/bin/main.vala): fsodevice: check for vala; create subsystem, register, load, run mainloop |
| 19:34.59 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r287d49d623e2 10/fsodeviced/ (6 files in 5 dirs): fsodevice: add build infrastructure for first plugin |
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| 19:35.02 | SeligArkin | Attack of the updates! |
| 19:35.02 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7f4bcb8463db 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): fsoframework: start with some logging |
| 19:35.05 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r70d966197874 10/libfsoframework/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: smartkeyfile: add hasSection method |
| 19:35.10 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * raf721d7041a9 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/subsystem.vala: fsoframework: subsystem: an empty list is null |
| 19:35.13 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r5ef592a8df6e 10/libfsoframework/ (configure.ac fsoframework/subsystem.vala tests/Makefile.am): |
| 19:35.16 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: fsoframework: get rid of MODULE_ARCH in module install path |
| 19:35.22 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: This is making more problems than it solves... we don't need |
| 19:35.24 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: to have multiple modules living in one path anyways... |
| 19:35.26 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r40475a9c9b68 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fsodevice: catch up with removing MODULE_ARCH |
| 19:35.29 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r20de790ea2f1 10/libfsoframework/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:35.34 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: fsoframework: plugin: the factory function can throw an error now |
| 19:35.36 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: NOTE: This exposes an error in Vala or glib. |
| 19:35.38 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r01b545bcb6d1 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_leds/ (Makefile.am plugin.vala): fsodevice: kernel26_leds: scan sysfs path and create instances |
| 19:35.41 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r0d5d40ffcd42 10/libfsoframework/ (13 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: plugin: add subsystem parameter to factory method |
| 19:35.48 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r588c1814b1db 10/fsodeviced/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fsodevice: kernel26_leds: led objects are getting registered |
| 19:35.51 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * raa3e5270dc70 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/ (4 files): fsoframework: start interfaces file, containing service interface metadata |
| 19:35.54 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc46c5941b252 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_leds/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: add workaround to get the valadbus interface working |
| 19:35.59 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re524af1ba316 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_leds/plugin.vala: fsoframework: kernel26: SetBrightness ok. |
| 19:36.02 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rd8ff49a439b5 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/ (Makefile.am fsoframework-2.0.vapi utilities.vala): fsoframework: add utilties; pending tests! |
| 19:36.05 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r610e17d484b8 10/libfsoframework/tests/ (nocontent.txt testutilities.vala textfile.txt): fsoframework: add tests for utilities |
| 19:36.10 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rb3914ae2af8f 10/libfsoframework/ (14 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:36.13 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: fsoframework: fixed factory delegate which was wrongly declared. |
| 19:36.15 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: Unfortunately Vala can not warn you, if you cast a function symbol |
| 19:36.17 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: to a delegate that has a different signature (static vs non-static), |
| 19:36.21 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: so we have to be extra careful here. It works now :) |
| 19:36.23 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rde5e3917604f 10/libfsoframework/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:36.26 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: fsoframework: logger: support setting a representation delegate for |
| 19:36.28 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: the logger. The representation delegate has to return a string and |
| 19:36.30 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: will be called for every logged message. This can slow down logging, |
| 19:36.34 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: so use with care. |
| 19:36.36 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r527f8ef69ea3 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): sync |
| 19:36.38 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r95309f7f47fa 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py: ogsmd: fix timeout reporting |
| 19:36.41 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rec6fe4fb7aef 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: ogsmd: strip " from response for +CPIN? (which some modems include in their reponse) |
| 19:36.46 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * re6c36e917cc7 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 19:36.49 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: [FREESCALE NEPTUNE] fix bunch of problems |
| 19:36.51 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: * catch up with unsolicited response parsing |
| 19:36.53 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: * catch up with timeout changes |
| 19:36.57 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: * change channel mapping to accomodate for +CMT on /dev/mux2 |
| 19:37.00 | Wonka | momomomomoMOOOONSTERCOMMITFLOOOOOD! |
| 19:37.01 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: * fix incoming SMS parsing (needs a slightly different PDU format) |
| 19:37.03 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: * fix roaming indication |
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| 19:41.25 | Dave | Wonka :p |
| 19:41.38 | Dave | seligarkin, how goes? |
| 19:41.47 | SeligArkin | pretty good |
| 19:41.53 | Dave | :) |
| 19:41.57 | SeligArkin | I found why it wasn't connecting to the GSM |
| 19:42.03 | SeligArkin | I forgot to tell it to connect. >.>; |
| 19:42.08 | Dave | hah |
| 19:42.10 | PaulFert` | DocScrutinizer: 07-03-2009 15:28:06 < RedDog!n=reddog@mastersword.de: but i can't read the temp from gta02 battery using g |
| 19:42.10 | Wonka | lol |
| 19:42.13 | PaulFert` | ta01? |
| 19:42.16 | SeligArkin | fail. :( |
| 19:42.44 | PaulFert` | SeligArkin: are you still toying with 2007.x? |
| 19:43.02 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFert`: thanks :) |
| 19:43.21 | Dave | :D |
| 19:43.21 | SeligArkin | PaulFert`: yeah |
| 19:43.47 | PaulFert` | DocScrutinizer: (that was on -cdevel) always welcome. BTW, what soft did you use to make htmls for N810 photos? |
| 19:43.51 | PaulFert` | SeligArkin: what for? |
| 19:44.19 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, GTA01 has ~10kR and BL-5C 80kR invariant on temp. |
| 19:44.50 | SeligArkin | PaulFert`: because I am still in the process of updating it? |
| 19:44.51 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFert`: digicam |
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| 19:45.44 | PaulFert` | SeligArkin: updating 2007.x? Are you sure you understand what you're doing? Probably you should have spent time waiting for freerunner in some more smart way (like reading the wiki and mailing lists) :p |
| 19:46.02 | SeligArkin | :P |
| 19:46.06 | DocScrutinizer | (gta01 bat) so bl5c would appear to gta01 like a *very* cold gta01 bat |
| 19:47.09 | zwarg | Total n00b q: I can't find ot the wiki or ML the way to figure out which version of OM i'm running. Is there a simple 1 liner to do that? |
| 19:47.52 | PaulFert` | zwarg: just install the version you want to run and be sure ;) |
| 19:47.59 | zwarg | ha |
| 19:49.28 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFert`: digiKam to be correct |
| 19:49.34 | joejoe | have someone installed lastest tangogps? |
| 19:49.50 | PaulFert` | DocScrutinizer: aha, that makes more sense :) |
| 19:49.52 | joejoe | i want to ask, if you have also problems with editing of repository place |
| 19:50.09 | joejoe | just click config - edit repo - save (crash) |
| 19:51.30 | Dave | eten eten eten |
| 19:51.37 | toggles_w | Dave: !! |
| 19:51.43 | Dave | /o\ |
| 19:51.55 | toggles_w | \m/ |
| 19:52.11 | toggles_w | Dave: you soming to shrcon? |
| 19:52.22 | toggles_w | s/s/c |
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| 19:55.49 | Dave | wtf? :P |
| 19:56.00 | Dave | where, taiwan? china? |
| 19:56.04 | Dave | :p |
| 19:56.05 | toggles_w | Dave: shrcon!! |
| 19:56.07 | toggles_w | http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2009-March/001185.html |
| 19:56.23 | Dave | hmm |
| 19:56.41 | toggles_w | dunno, i think europe somewhere |
| 19:57.09 | toggles_w | Braunschweig... sounds like some good sausage and beer? |
| 19:57.26 | toggles_w | maybe served on a sword... |
| 19:58.16 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r6435a9a081b2 10/NEWS: initial commit of my vacation work |
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| 19:59.31 | DocScrutinizer | brunswick? |
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| 20:04.38 | SeligArkin | ok... I feel like an idiot.. |
| 20:04.47 | Dave | europe? boo |
| 20:04.53 | Dave | where should have an american one |
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| 20:17.41 | Inc_Vega | hi all |
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| 21:22.09 | Serdar | if I create 2 partitions should I change the type of the first partition to fat32 or fat16? |
| 21:23.36 | henk | no, usually not |
| 21:24.37 | Serdar | huh? what else? |
| 21:24.45 | Serdar | only formatting to vfat? |
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| 21:36.45 | SM2k | bah. stupid AT&T... that & in their name is preventing me from reading the text message they sent with my new account PIN :-P |
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| 21:44.07 | SeligArkin | Hmm.. I think I need to update uboot |
| 21:44.18 | SeligArkin | It's sitting there saying "Openmoko" and not doing anything |
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| 21:48.42 | SM2k | anybody have any ideas how to view SMS messages the phone has received from the command line |
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| 21:51.29 | fredrin | where is the phonelog in shr? |
| 21:52.41 | tomboy64 | on the desktop? |
| 21:53.40 | fredrin | tomboy64: umm, no, unless it gets deleted everytime you reboot or something |
| 21:53.56 | tomboy64 | testing? |
| 21:54.06 | fredrin | unstable |
| 21:54.17 | tomboy64 | check /usr/share/applications |
| 21:54.27 | tomboy64 | or just run phonelog.py |
| 21:54.31 | tomboy64 | (i think) |
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| 21:55.57 | fredrin | tomboy64: sweet, thanks man |
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| 22:06.54 | SM2k | grrr. that's so freakin dumb! how do you get at an SMS message if openmoko-messages can't display it? :-P |
| 22:08.33 | dent | put sim into a different phone that can? :-P |
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| 22:09.06 | SM2k | .... is the message associated with the SIM or the Phone? |
| 22:10.00 | dent | afaik it's stored in sim |
| 22:11.41 | SM2k | well sadly all I have here is freerunners so I doubt I'm going to get much mielage |
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| 22:12.26 | mmontour | SM2k: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_SMS (probably out of date, but may have some useful info) |
| 22:12.54 | SM2k | right I was just re-looking at that, given dent's assertion that the SMS was in the SIM chip |
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| 22:13.42 | dent | if you're running SHR/FSO, seems the iwki page won't help much |
| 22:13.57 | dent | in SHR/FSO, this should be doable via http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mdbus |
| 22:14.19 | dent | s/should/might/ |
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| 22:16.24 | SeligArkin | ... I think I borkeded something |
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| 22:16.57 | rhkfin | SeligArkin: what did you do.. :)? |
| 22:16.59 | SeligArkin | pokes usbnet |
| 22:17.04 | SeligArkin | its not connecting |
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| 22:17.54 | SeligArkin | I can't ping it... |
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| 22:27.48 | SM2k | whoo |
| 22:27.50 | SM2k | mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessage 0 |
| 22:27.56 | SM2k | thanks for the pointers guys |
| 22:28.03 | SeligArkin | ... |
| 22:28.22 | SM2k | SeligArkin: as they say *nothing* about these phones is easy :-) |
| 22:29.38 | SeligArkin | hmm, well I am kinda stuck here. |
| 22:29.48 | rhkfin | SeligArkin: did you already flash it? |
| 22:29.52 | SeligArkin | yep |
| 22:29.59 | rhkfin | 2008.12 or SHR? |
| 22:30.06 | SeligArkin | 2008.12 |
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| 22:30.21 | rhkfin | 'key |
| 22:30.40 | SeligArkin | and usbnet is notworking... |
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| 22:31.00 | SeligArkin | considers |
| 22:31.48 | rhkfin | did you restart it once after flashing? |
| 22:32.13 | Dave | :O |
| 22:32.17 | Dave | hands out free sandwiches |
| 22:33.27 | SeligArkin | rhkfin: 7es, I am not that stupid. :P |
| 22:33.33 | SeligArkin | noms the sammich |
| 22:34.28 | SeligArkin | pokes the thing |
| 22:34.32 | Dave | :D |
| 22:34.45 | rhkfin | SeligArkin: I mean flash -> start -> usb doesn't work -> restart -> usb works? |
| 22:34.53 | SeligArkin | oh |
| 22:35.13 | SeligArkin | I think I am going to disable the graphical boot |
| 22:35.21 | SeligArkin | I like watching the text zoom by., |
| 22:35.50 | rhkfin | First start makes some config things so dropbear doesn't start before restarting (and there's no way to start it manually :) |
| 22:36.09 | SeligArkin | grr |
| 22:36.22 | SeligArkin | I keep getting stuck at this screen with "openmoko" on it |
| 22:36.35 | SeligArkin | I think I need to update u-boot also |
| 22:36.59 | rhkfin | SeligArkin: so did I, before I installed Qi instead of uboot (and before that I always started with AUX+POWER..) |
| 22:37.43 | SeligArkin | hmm |
| 22:37.56 | SeligArkin | looks into Qo |
| 22:37.57 | SeligArkin | Qi |
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| 22:41.58 | Dave | Qiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
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| 23:22.20 | rhkfin | I started a browser review page in the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Browser_review |
| 23:23.14 | rhkfin | AFAIK there are no ~good browsers for OM, they all lack something important so maybe this helps to find the one that has the most potential to be developed.. |
| 23:27.55 | SeligArkin | Interesting |
| 23:28.09 | SeligArkin | root@om-gta02:~# wpa_cli status |
| 23:28.10 | SeligArkin | Selected interface 'eth0' |
| 23:28.10 | SeligArkin | FAIL |
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| 23:28.32 | SM2k | mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.GetResourceState WiFi |
| 23:28.32 | SM2k | False |
| 23:28.45 | SeligArkin | is trying to get a similar setup for wpa_supplicant as she has for her laptop |
| 23:29.00 | SM2k | interesting that dbus shows that as "off" but /proc/net/wireless shows eth0 as having wireless capabilities |
| 23:29.25 | SeligArkin | I like that I can use /etc/network/interfaces to make different profiles for each point |
| 23:29.50 | SeligArkin | eg,I have my laptop claiom the IP of 192.168.1.3 when I am at home,but use dhcp at tech |
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| 23:36.00 | SeligArkin | what device is the wifi in the neo freerunner? |
| 23:36.13 | SeligArkin | i understand it is eth0 but I am getting errors from that |
| 23:37.38 | rhkfin | should be it |
| 23:38.29 | SeligArkin | hmm |
| 23:38.56 | SeligArkin | ... |
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| 23:39.05 | SeligArkin | now it can't read wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 23:39.27 | SeligArkin | pokes it |
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| 23:45.20 | SeligArkin | if eth0 is wifi whats eth1? |
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| 23:50.28 | SeligArkin | boggles |
| 23:55.06 | SeligArkin | ... WTF |
| 23:55.25 | SeligArkin | why the frak can't you find /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.cong |
| 23:55.33 | SeligArkin | s/cong/conf/ |
| 23:55.34 | mmontour | Congratulations, SeligArkin, you are now truely an Openomko user |
| 23:55.43 | SeligArkin | ITS rIGHT THERE! |
| 23:55.59 | SeligArkin | I Can cat it! |
| 23:57.35 | SeligArkin | ... |
| 23:58.15 | SeligArkin | stabs it |
| 23:59.01 | SeligArkin | wpa_cli stat |
| 23:59.02 | PaulFert` | SeligArkin: the favourite OM user command is strace (hint-hint) ;) |
| 23:59.04 | SeligArkin | wrong window |
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