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| 00:38.16 | badcloud | could somebody help me find out why I can't ping my fr when it boots into debian? /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/m6147dfc8 |
| 00:39.15 | badcloud | the address it attained under shr is 10.0.0.2, not sure why it would be any different under debian |
| 00:39.43 | badcloud | pointless gadgets are fun |
| 00:41.38 | badcloud | also, I can't seem to find a working app to switch to usb host mode |
| 00:41.46 | badcloud | under shr |
| 00:42.07 | badcloud | or do it successfully using the terminal |
| 00:47.09 | badcloud | well, I'll have to try later |
| 00:47.12 | badcloud | zzzz |
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| 01:34.26 | gmaxwell_ | Is there any way I can avoid the problem with my GTA02 where I leave it plugged into a PC's usb port for a few days then return to find the thing dead as a brick, needing some kind of battery removal dance and an overnight sit on USB before it'll boot? |
| 01:35.19 | gmaxwell_ | I keep finding that every time I get a chance to work on it the thing is dead and I'm not free by the time its charged, especially now that I'm using two of 'em and both need to be working for me⦠|
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| 01:41.23 | gmaxwell_ | Hm. Well, apparently I can boot it into uboot using a good battery holding down aux then remove the battery (which normally kills it) and then switch to the dead battery, which I'm guessing it will now charge. |
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| 01:48.00 | fredrin_ | anyone use the Satan program? |
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| 02:37.24 | malane | im having trouble with shr |
| 02:37.29 | malane | i cannot place a phone call |
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| 02:37.37 | malane | and when someone calls me, i answer, but i cant hear anyone talk and they can't hear me |
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| 02:43.52 | Dave | hmm |
| 02:44.06 | Dave | sounds like state problems again |
| 02:46.10 | malane | on the "default" profile, no ringing occurs |
| 02:46.12 | malane | only vibrating |
| 02:46.15 | malane | I'm using shr testing |
| 02:46.18 | malane | the latest |
| 02:46.22 | malane | and I've reflashed it more than once |
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| 03:12.32 | jbick | does anyone know a kernel that works with om2008.9 or 12 that I can compile myself. Everything I have been trying either doesn't compile or crashes qtopia because everything does not load properly. |
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| 03:22.17 | slaxxin | guitar tuner wont install on shr |
| 03:22.28 | slaxxin | terminated |
| 03:22.49 | wws-d | testing or unstable? |
| 03:23.10 | wws-d | got it to work fine on testing with -force-depends |
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| 03:24.34 | slaxxin | testing |
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| 03:24.41 | slaxxin | ok i try |
| 03:25.04 | slaxxin | su |
| 03:25.18 | wws-d | but opkg.org has been having some issues as of late |
| 03:27.30 | slaxxin | that worked |
| 03:27.45 | wws-d | good deal |
| 03:28.01 | slaxxin | libfftw3-3 |
| 03:28.11 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.18 | wws-d | love that package, though it is 6-stringsentric |
| 03:28.19 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.39 | wws-d | <--bass player |
| 03:28.57 | slaxxin | my neighbor is going to buy this phone when he sees it |
| 03:29.17 | slaxxin | gtick will install to? |
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| 03:29.35 | wws-d | he could save $350 and get a Boss pedal |
| 03:29.48 | wws-d | yeah, with not prob |
| 03:30.05 | wws-d | at least I didn't have a prob |
| 03:31.05 | wws-d | still can't get epiano/euphnay to install, but that's another issue |
| 03:33.34 | slaxxin | i did but i have no icon ,,started in terminal ok |
| 03:34.00 | wws-d | go to /usr/shar/applications |
| 03:34.26 | wws-d | edit the file there, change from Allpication to Applications |
| 03:34.32 | wws-d | (known bug |
| 03:34.45 | wws-d | Application, that is |
| 03:34.51 | slaxxin | ic |
| 03:36.37 | wws-d | there are a few apps like that. If something installs ok, but doesn't show up, check the spelling in the /usr/share/application/ file |
| 03:42.43 | ColdFyre | android question ... adb refuses to see my phone at all.. |
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| 03:44.13 | wws-d | sorry, CF, no Andriod experience |
| 03:48.23 | ColdFyre | doh |
| 03:48.24 | ColdFyre | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#The_shortest_way |
| 03:48.28 | ColdFyre | the netmask is wrong |
| 03:48.34 | ColdFyre | should be 255.255.255.240 |
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| 05:18.55 | tomboy64 | is there a way to just update all packages via depclean that have changed in a git-tree? |
| 05:19.05 | tomboy64 | didn't find anything bout that in google :-/ |
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| 06:32.44 | fredrin_ | what pass |
| 06:33.01 | fredrin_ | more slaxxer's |
| 06:33.17 | fredrin_ | one from the FR? |
| 06:33.29 | slaxxer1 | yup |
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| 06:34.09 | fredrin_ | slaxxer1: what client? |
| 06:34.26 | Slaxxer | pidgen |
| 06:34.47 | fredrin_ | that lasted long :) |
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| 06:36.57 | slaxxer1 | 8-) |
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| 07:07.13 | PaulFert` | jbick: you know that om2008.x is not supported and therefore is not compatible with any reasonably new kernel, don't you? |
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| 07:08.13 | gmaxwell_ | Whats the most recent image to run on the gta-01? |
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| 07:08.42 | rooly | wtf |
| 07:08.48 | rooly | qte is dead now? |
| 07:08.57 | slaxxin | maaaan |
| 07:09.25 | slaxxin | i had 4.4.3 |
| 07:09.44 | rhkfin_ | PaulFert`: hmm.. what distro IS supported? |
| 07:09.55 | slaxxin | shr |
| 07:10.02 | slaxxin | fso |
| 07:10.02 | rooly | how is 443, slaxx |
| 07:10.05 | slaxxin | debian |
| 07:10.16 | slaxxin | no different |
| 07:10.20 | rhkfin_ | hmm.. true.. |
| 07:10.22 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:10.24 | gmaxwell_ | rooly: OMG you mean nokia is no longer creating software for FIC's phone?! Unimaginable! |
| 07:10.25 | gmaxwell_ | ;) |
| 07:10.33 | rooly | sms cloning, random crashing in the telephony server |
| 07:10.50 | slaxxin | it seemed to work though |
| 07:11.25 | rooly | sms cloning, dialer crashing, and keyboard malfunctions were the main problems |
| 07:11.34 | rooly | were all those fixed? |
| 07:11.41 | slaxxin | i had it for 2 days |
| 07:11.49 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.54 | rooly | ... |
| 07:11.59 | slaxxin | sorry |
| 07:11.59 | rooly | did you ever send a text message |
| 07:12.04 | slaxxin | nope |
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| 08:23.57 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 09:52.21 | rhkfin_ | http://www.st.com/stonline/stappl/cms/press/news/year2009/t2375.htm |
| 09:52.38 | rhkfin_ | STMicroelectronics? MEMS Enables Motion Sensing in Openmoko Mobile Handsets |
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| 09:54.56 | Tig| | rhkfin_: a bit on the late side considering when the FR came out |
| 09:55.23 | rhkfin_ | yep.. |
| 09:55.44 | Tig| | do you think they have only just found out :P |
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| 09:57.35 | rhkfin_ | no, not really :) |
| 09:57.57 | rhkfin_ | ok, sorry for posting OM-related links :) |
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| 12:12.40 | jd666 | bind9 ? |
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| 12:12.44 | jd666 | ups |
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| 12:17.06 | tomboy64 | is angstrom-distribution.org down? |
| 12:17.15 | tomboy64 | i can't access http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/mobile-browser_hg.mozilla.org_._0361cd36d50d.tar.gz |
| 12:17.17 | tomboy64 | :( |
| 12:17.26 | tomboy64 | and bitbake fails :-/ |
| 12:17.59 | tomboy64 | meh |
| 12:18.06 | tomboy64 | i guess time for another ugly hack! |
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| 13:21.19 | spectie | Elleo, |
| 13:21.20 | spectie | shit me |
| 13:23.18 | Elleo | heh, hey spectie |
| 13:23.21 | Elleo | small interwebs |
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| 13:31.36 | tomboy64 | is there a way to "group" installs? like pidgin and its numerous plugins? |
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| 13:32.17 | tomboy64 | i'd also like to know if there's a way to remove unneeded packages, like -autoremove does, only that i don't need to specify a package whose deps should be removed? |
| 13:32.44 | tomboy64 | kind of like "--depclean" in portage's emerge, if someone is familiar with that |
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| 13:52.39 | spectie | Elleo, you know stuff about openmoko |
| 13:52.53 | Elleo | err, a bit? |
| 13:59.43 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03werner * r4956 10/developers/werner/gta03/cam/README: Camera usage instructions. |
| 14:01.54 | spectie | Elleo, |
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| 14:23.53 | laen | Elleo: you know stuff? |
| 14:24.15 | laen | Pls tell me stuff :( |
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| 14:25.32 | tomboy64 | quotes bash.org |
| 14:27.59 | SpeedEvil | 'the keys are right next to each other' ? |
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| 14:30.42 | Dave | laen :o |
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| 14:30.58 | laen | DAVE! |
| 14:31.11 | Dave | :P |
| 14:31.15 | laen | =) |
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| 14:31.20 | laen | hugs Dave |
| 14:31.32 | Dave | Aww :) |
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| 14:31.41 | Dave | Uh oh, look out, it's the virus! |
| 14:32.17 | CVirus | stfu |
| 14:32.33 | CVirus | davey |
| 14:33.55 | Dave | :p |
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| 14:54.03 | laen | heheh |
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| 16:21.16 | rhkfin_ | Can't remember who I talked with about opkg.org, but many still fail, see the end of http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/kustomizer_files/kustomizer_devel_log_20090310.txt |
| 16:21.27 | rhkfin_ | I wish Tobias had time to have a look at it.. |
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| 16:29.21 | tomboy64 | could someone enlighten me to the syntax of arch.conf? |
| 16:29.41 | tomboy64 | e.g. what the numbers after the feeds mean - priorities? the lower, the higher the priority? |
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| 16:30.59 | tomboy64 | and if so, is it important in which order the feeds are listed? |
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| 16:35.31 | Tuju | where is the latest SHR release? |
| 16:35.45 | tomboy64 | Tuju, shr.bearstech.org |
| 16:35.48 | Tuju | http://blog.shr-project.org/ is quite useless for such information.. :) |
| 16:35.59 | tomboy64 | hmm |
| 16:36.06 | tomboy64 | shr.bearstech.com/trac |
| 16:36.07 | Tuju | http://shr.bearstech.org |
| 16:36.13 | Tuju | http://shr.bearstech.org/trac |
| 16:36.16 | Zorkman | build.shr-project.org |
| 16:36.43 | Tuju | http://build.shr-project.org/ |
| 16:36.53 | Ainulindale | Can I play too? |
| 16:36.53 | Tuju | Yesssss |
| 16:36.58 | Ainulindale | http://shr.bearstech.org |
| 16:37.07 | tomboy64 | Ainulindale, sure, i have a question for you :-D |
| 16:37.17 | Ainulindale | And anyway, shr-project.org/trac |
| 16:37.30 | Ainulindale | tomboy64: shoot |
| 16:37.35 | Tuju | Ainulindale: only if you play nicely |
| 16:37.48 | tomboy64 | [17:29:20] <tomboy64> could someone enlighten me to the syntax of arch.conf? |
| 16:37.50 | tomboy64 | [17:29:40] <tomboy64> e.g. what the numbers after the feeds mean - priorities? the lower, the higher the priority? |
| 16:37.52 | tomboy64 | [17:30:59] <tomboy64> and if so, is it important in which order the feeds are listed? |
| 16:38.21 | Ainulindale | well no idea |
| 16:38.51 | Tuju | so i need only rootfs and kernel images? |
| 16:39.03 | Tuju | from here http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ ? |
| 16:39.49 | tomboy64 | hmmm |
| 16:39.58 | tomboy64 | Tuju, positive |
| 16:40.12 | Tuju | i'm just confused about that mess |
| 16:40.20 | SeligArkin | I have a question, I am getting an open moko phone, and my parents are worried about the fact it is still in development.my understanding is that even if you totaly frak up the kernel, youcan recover it using a computer. Is this correct? |
| 16:40.35 | Tuju | it's like directories have run out of world. no new ones can be done anymore. |
| 16:40.41 | Zorkman | SeligArkin: correct |
| 16:40.55 | Zorkman | you can only bork it if you have a debug board |
| 16:41.09 | Zorkman | otherwise you always have the NOR u-boot |
| 16:41.48 | SeligArkin | thats good to know |
| 16:42.24 | tomboy64 | Zorkman, wrong. you can also mess it up by flashing the phone's firmware or the gsm's firmware with the wrong stuff. |
| 16:43.21 | SeligArkin | I am hopingi will be able to get it arrived within the week |
| 16:43.35 | SeligArkin | the distributer I got it from had it on back-order though. |
| 16:43.35 | lindi- | tomboy64: what's "phone's firmware"? |
| 16:43.52 | SpeedEvil | tomboy64: you can't flash the phones firmware in an irrecoverable way |
| 16:44.19 | tomboy64 | SpeedEvil, i stand to be corrected then :) |
| 16:44.48 | tomboy64 | but it is my understanding you can bork it up to a point where you have to have a debug-board to get it back running? |
| 16:44.58 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 16:45.08 | SpeedEvil | you always have the NOR flash to recover form if you press aux on boot |
| 16:45.16 | SeligArkin | I am curious to mess with the GPS, and compair its accuracy with a cheep bluetooth GPS I have |
| 16:45.27 | SpeedEvil | there is no way to write the NOR flash memory without the debug board |
| 16:46.16 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: or by shorting out something in the hardware ;) |
| 16:47.03 | SeligArkin | yeah,I don'tplan to mess with the hardware. >.>; my soldering is not good enough to undo damage I could cause |
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| 18:25.19 | SeligArkin | Hmm... question... think doom could run on the freerunner? |
| 18:26.58 | Sharwin_F | SeligArkin, as far as I know it does |
| 18:27.07 | SeligArkin | ohhh |
| 18:27.13 | SeligArkin | I wonder how well that runs |
| 18:27.26 | Sharwin_F | SeligArkin, I think there are some videos on youtube |
| 18:29.01 | SeligArkin | dkjnaskjnfdsf damn it youtube |
| 18:29.42 | rhkfin_ | Sharwin_F: opkg.org has duke nukem 3d available but yes, I think Doom is told to run even better. |
| 18:32.21 | SeligArkin | could pair a wiimote with the phone, when out, pull out a wiimote and classic controller,start playing doom |
| 18:32.38 | SeligArkin | laugh at people who give you strange looks |
| 18:32.44 | rhkfin_ | SeligArkin: hmm - how about using the accelerometers IN the phone..? |
| 18:32.58 | SeligArkin | rhkfin_: I mean for the buttons and sticks,not the accl |
| 18:33.14 | SeligArkin | hense the classic controller need |
| 18:33.18 | rhkfin_ | hmm.. ok.. |
| 18:33.36 | SeligArkin | doessome googling |
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| 18:34.40 | SeligArkin | get a small joystick with buttons instead... |
| 18:35.14 | malane | has anyone had experience getting debian to work on the fr with the kernel in ext2 and not vfat? |
| 18:35.27 | rhkfin_ | nokia: joystich with bt :) |
| 18:35.40 | SeligArkin | oh that |
| 18:35.44 | SeligArkin | or |
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| 18:36.31 | rhkfin_ | a tiny (size of a matchbox) joystick would be fun :) |
| 18:36.38 | SeligArkin | indeed |
| 18:37.37 | rhkfin_ | google images: http://tinyurl.com/minijoystick |
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| 18:39.57 | SeligArkin | you in finland? |
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| 18:40.40 | rhkfin_ | indeed |
| 18:42.36 | SeligArkin | I was thinking something like this with a actual joystick not a d-pad http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2959443&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=TBBTkwCjCVyBpAgf%20mwzygtCjCVRqCjCVRq |
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| 18:44.12 | rhkfin_ | SeligArkin: nice! One with BT would be cool :) |
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| 18:44.22 | SeligArkin | hmm |
| 18:44.37 | novalis_dt | Are there opkg repositories for Om2008.12? |
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| 18:45.12 | rhkfin_ | novalis_dt: I think it uses the 2008.8 one |
| 18:45.17 | rhkfin_ | at http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8 |
| 18:45.26 | SeligArkin | http://www.suntekstore.com/bluetooth-gamepad-for-smartphone-and-pdas---black.html |
| 18:46.12 | rhkfin_ | SeligArkin: whoo! (but doesn't look that cool) |
| 18:46.35 | novalis_dt | rhkfin_, thanks. |
| 18:49.01 | SeligArkin | rhkfin_: I can't seem to find anything other than that sadly |
| 18:49.06 | johnsu01 | hey novalis_dt |
| 18:49.13 | novalis_dt | hey john! |
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| 18:49.25 | rhkfin_ | ok.. |
| 18:49.50 | johnsu01 | novalis_dt: I take it you got your freerunner? |
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| 18:50.07 | novalis_dt | johnsu01, Yep! I feel like it's 1998 again, and I have to manually frob configuration files to make anything work, and you know? It's not so bad. |
| 18:50.16 | johnsu01 | novalis_dt: It's good clean fun. |
| 18:50.17 | SeligArkin | bluetooth probably idn't a very good medium for stuff like that. |
| 18:50.50 | SeligArkin | but I think they make female usb to male mini-usb adapters you could use with another, its just a question of how much the controller needs to take |
| 18:51.00 | vininim | novalis_dt: come on, you have a resistive touchscreen and a stylus! isn't that the point? |
| 18:51.28 | SeligArkin | hopes hers will get in this week |
| 18:51.39 | novalis_dt | vininim, actually, my stylus seems to have disappeared some time in the last 24 hours. But I have a pretty close to 100% free software phone, which is the point. |
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| 18:53.59 | rhkfin_ | novalis_dt: don't worry, I've lost the original stylus ~2-3 times (and found n-1 times). Then I got a new, smaller and lost it ~5 times. I think I know where it is now.. Matches work ok too, cheap & available everywhere :) |
| 18:54.39 | novalis_dt | rhkfin_, not quite everywhere, as restaurants and bars are nonsmoking here in New York. |
| 18:54.54 | rhkfin_ | -> toothpick |
| 18:54.55 | rhkfin_ | :) |
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| 18:55.38 | novalis_dt | I'm a little worried about scratching up my screen, but maybe I shouldn't be |
| 18:55.58 | rhkfin_ | novalis_dt: InvisibleShield's popular around here.. |
| 18:57.08 | novalis_dt | OK, I believe I'll order one of those |
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| 18:58.32 | novalis_dt | Is there a way to get a log of my booting process? I bought a microsd card, but there are some errors that scroll by too fast to read on bootup. |
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| 18:58.56 | max_posedon | dmesg? |
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| 18:59.39 | novalis_dt | max_posedon, doesn't seem to go back far enough |
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| 19:04.10 | SeligArkin | ponders |
| 19:09.01 | johnsu01 | novalis_dt: I'm thinking about trying a guitar pick with a hole in it and a string |
| 19:09.05 | DaveLab | boggles |
| 19:09.36 | rhkfin_ | That's what Nokia sells with their... 5800 music something, I think |
| 19:09.55 | DaveLab | that's retarded |
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| 19:10.05 | DaveLab | I don't know who came up with that marketing deal |
| 19:10.41 | novalis_dt | Yeah, I could just tie my stylus, when I turn it up... |
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| 19:11.14 | SeligArkin | I made my own stylus, with a popsickle stick, a screw, an old mechinacal pencle,and a shitload of electrical tape |
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| 19:12.17 | jonsmith1982 | whats the command to scp back to something back to your self? |
| 19:12.37 | jonsmith1982 | whats the command to scp something back to your self? |
| 19:12.52 | SeligArkin | scp user@host:/path/to/file localname |
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| 19:13.09 | jonsmith1982 | SeligArkin, thx. |
| 19:13.31 | SeligArkin | no prob |
| 19:14.54 | SeligArkin | adds this channel to her auto-join |
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| 19:15.20 | rhkfin_ | SeligArkin: was about time :) |
| 19:15.29 | SeligArkin | hehe |
| 19:16.40 | SeligArkin | I just placed the order for mine yesterday. :P |
| 19:17.54 | rhkfin_ | :) |
| 19:18.17 | SeligArkin | is really hoping it will get in this week |
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| 19:19.14 | SeligArkin | shouldn't take UPS more than a week to transport it the 300 miles from the distributer |
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| 19:19.35 | SeligArkin | problem is the distributer was out. :( |
| 19:19.45 | DaveLab | * SeligArkin is now known as MacGyver |
| 19:19.46 | DaveLab | :P |
| 19:19.55 | SeligArkin | I am? |
| 19:20.06 | SeligArkin | Damn |
| 19:20.28 | DaveLab | well, I just read about your stylus |
| 19:20.35 | SeligArkin | oh |
| 19:20.37 | SeligArkin | :P |
| 19:20.40 | DaveLab | yeah :) |
| 19:20.57 | SeligArkin | I had the stuff laying around, so I peiced it together into something I was always loosing |
| 19:21.17 | SeligArkin | tied a string to the screw then put it in, tied the other end to my ATT 8525 |
| 19:23.42 | SeligArkin | oh can multiple things read from the accl things at the same time, or is it locked so only one can read from it? |
| 19:23.53 | DaveLab | how did it work out? |
| 19:24.18 | SeligArkin | worked well, just broke the popsicle stick in half, widdled it down to a point |
| 19:24.23 | DaveLab | hahaha |
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| 19:24.26 | DaveLab | SHANK! |
| 19:24.38 | rhkfin_ | SeligArkin: some have reported some issues there but AFAIK, it should work for multiple apps at the same time. Someone correct? |
| 19:24.40 | SeligArkin | Thats whay they said in school. |
| 19:24.51 | spsneo | is openmoko applying for soc 2009 |
| 19:24.51 | SeligArkin | Thats why I ended up loosing my home-made stylus |
| 19:25.02 | SeligArkin | :P |
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| 19:25.36 | spsneo | no answer? |
| 19:25.54 | SeligArkin | how does an neo freerunner compare to the ATT 8525 in size, anyway |
| 19:25.55 | spsneo | ajuonline: do u have any idea on this ^^ |
| 19:25.56 | rhkfin_ | "The hilarious adventures of SeligArkin in the Free World" - can't wait for you to report your experiences with Freerunner :) |
| 19:26.29 | SeligArkin | rhkfin_: I am willing to bet I will break something within the first hour of having it, or crash the X11 or something. :P |
| 19:27.03 | rhkfin_ | Breaking software is no news :) |
| 19:27.35 | SeligArkin | I have done some zany things with software |
| 19:27.40 | rhkfin_ | SeligArkin: freerunner: 120.7 x 62.0 x 18.5 mm (4.752 x 2.441 x 0.728 inch) |
| 19:27.40 | SeligArkin | Ever try replacing cat? |
| 19:27.41 | SeligArkin | I have |
| 19:28.01 | SeligArkin | I replaced it with a shell script that echos "Meow" |
| 19:28.10 | SeligArkin | linux doesn't like that. |
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| 19:28.24 | rhkfin_ | heh :) |
| 19:28.57 | DaveLab | bye spsneo! |
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| 19:29.08 | DaveLab | muwahahaha |
| 19:30.19 | SeligArkin | oh I was reading a blog, someone found a bunch of leaks in the opkg program, has their fix made it to the mainstream? |
| 19:30.55 | DaveLab | NO |
| 19:31.00 | rhkfin_ | Hmm.. no wonder installing a broken package segfaults it.. |
| 19:31.01 | DaveLab | jerks... |
| 19:31.02 | anttna | rhkfin_: Matches work ok too, cheap & available everywhere :) and they fit in the hole on the fr |) |
| 19:31.10 | rhkfin_ | anttna: indeed :) |
| 19:31.12 | SeligArkin | grah |
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| 19:31.29 | SeligArkin | How annoying. >:( |
| 19:31.41 | DaveLab | INDEED |
| 19:31.54 | DaveLab | Seligarkin: It's _aggravating_ |
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| 19:32.04 | SeligArkin | guess I will be messing with lower-level stuff than I am use to |
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| 19:32.59 | anttna | novalis_dt: 'm a little worried about scratching up my screen http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Screen_protection_-_ARMR200_film this type of stuff works too |
| 19:33.05 | SeligArkin | rhkfin_: I am not good at visualizing mesurements, so I was hoping to get a comparison of something that I know the size of. |
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| 19:33.25 | SeligArkin | then again, I can't expect you guys to know what I know the size of... |
| 19:33.54 | SeligArkin | so I guess it will just be a surprise. :P |
| 19:34.45 | novalis_dt | anttna, thanks. That seems to require more disassembly than I really want to do, but if I don't like the invisibleshield, I'll try it |
| 19:35.59 | anttna | novalis_dt: torx screwdriver for 2 screws and a guitar pick to open the cover, not a big problem |
| 19:36.15 | novalis_dt | anttna, sure, but I'm really a software sort of guy. |
| 19:36.22 | novalis_dt | I had to have a friend come over to put up my curtain rods |
| 19:36.23 | rhkfin_ | SeligArkin: you know poptarts? Two of those stacked & rounded corners :) |
| 19:36.38 | novalis_dt | (to be fair, I'm also a short guy in a apt with a tall ceiling) |
| 19:36.48 | SeligArkin | ohhh |
| 19:36.50 | SeligArkin | nice! |
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| 19:37.08 | SeligArkin | I was afraid the screen would be too small like I found the 8525's to be |
| 19:37.48 | anttna | rhkfin_: SeligArkin: you know poptarts? Two of those stacked & rounded corners :) hehe I was just thinking of a popular biscuit to campare to :) |
| 19:37.58 | SeligArkin | hehe |
| 19:38.37 | rhkfin_ | tastes ~the same, too :) |
| 19:39.05 | SeligArkin | giggles |
| 19:39.55 | anttna | Does anyone know if the capacitor which the buzz fix cap is soldered to is a form factor 0402? |
| 19:40.02 | SeligArkin | I wish my dad gave the distributor my email so I would know immediately when it was shiped out, and setup my laptop to stalk it |
| 19:40.43 | SeligArkin | bounces around impatiently |
| 19:40.50 | DaveLab | :D |
| 19:40.51 | rhkfin_ | SeligArkin: it doesn't make it arrive faster :) |
| 19:41.14 | DaveLab | neo poptartrunner |
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| 19:41.55 | baba_melone | Hi, I havent heard anything about the glamo 3d driver for quite a while now |
| 19:42.03 | baba_melone | is there some development going on |
| 19:42.41 | baba_melone | If yes, where do I get the information about that stuff, Id really like to work on/with the Glamo 3d support |
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| 19:45.07 | SeligArkin | I wish I could sleep till it arrives... damn school... |
| 19:45.26 | ajuonline | spsneo: about openmoko applying? no. |
| 19:45.44 | spsneo | ajuonline: why? |
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| 19:46.49 | rhkfin_ | SeligArkin: I was promised 3-4 days to deliver, it took 2 weeks or so.. :P |
| 19:46.56 | SeligArkin | eep |
| 19:47.05 | SeligArkin | I hope it won't take that long |
| 19:47.11 | ajuonline | spsneo: why am I supposed to know everything in this world :P |
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| 19:48.00 | spsneo | ajuonline: I am sorry for that question |
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| 19:48.57 | ajuonline | spsneo: :) its ok no worries |
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| 19:49.31 | SeligArkin | ajuonline: WHYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyYYyyyyyyyyyyyyYyyyyyyyyyYYYYYYYYY |
| 19:49.39 | SeligArkin | :P |
| 19:50.13 | ajuonline | SeligArkin: duh! :P |
| 19:50.39 | novalis_dt | I got mine in a week, and it would have been sooner if I hadn't typo'd my address (d'oh!) |
| 19:51.16 | SeligArkin | Well my problem is the distributor is out of stock, so I have to wait for them to get theirs in, then I have to wait for them to send me one. |
| 19:51.25 | SeligArkin | but I am only 300miles from the distributer |
| 19:51.57 | anttna | SeligArkin: over 2 months afaicr |
| 19:51.58 | shellevil | the freerunner will almost completely fit in a coke can |
| 19:52.00 | shellevil | with little space to spare on either side |
| 19:52.04 | shellevil | Cheese is great for this sort of stuff. |
| 19:52.05 | SeligArkin | so I don't think it will tahe *that* long, unless UPS fraks up horribly |
| 19:52.06 | shellevil | measure it out with a ruler, cut a physical model |
| 19:52.55 | SeligArkin | heh, cheez |
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| 19:53.17 | anttna | it is similar to the size of a wheatabix :) |
| 19:53.29 | SeligArkin | the poptart example set it nice in my mind |
| 19:54.31 | rhkfin_ | anttna: bigger, I think |
| 19:54.40 | SeligArkin | I hate wating for things to arrive in the mails |
| 19:56.14 | novalis_dt | OK, so I'm trying to install numptyphysics, and opkg dies with the useful message "Terminated". This is true whether I pass the URL, or download it myself and pass the filename. Strace just tells me I got a sigterm. Any ideas? I'm not running out of memory, because I have 500 mb of unused swap |
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| 19:58.26 | SeligArkin | does the chicken dance |
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| 19:59.07 | SeligArkin | stares, and wonders why there are two azaghal's |
| 19:59.50 | azaghal | SeligArkin: Funky irssi + screen issue. |
| 20:00.14 | azaghal | And when I say funky, I mean I start one screen session, start irssi in it, then suddenly another screen+irssi sessions starts o.O |
| 20:00.26 | azaghal | Ah... I know what's the problem :) |
| 20:00.27 | SeligArkin | O_o |
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| 20:00.54 | SeligArkin | whats the problem/ |
| 20:01.34 | SeligArkin | ... |
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| 20:01.46 | rhkfin_ | novalis_dt: try http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=254 |
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| 20:02.14 | DaveLab | ä½ï¼ |
| 20:02.49 | azaghal | SeligArkin: Solved ;) |
| 20:03.18 | SeligArkin | azaghal: what was the problem? |
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| 20:05.12 | novalis_dt | rhkfin_, thanks. That installed and runs. How could I have figured that out myself, instead of wasting your time? |
| 20:05.18 | azaghal | Inside of .bashrc I check if irssi is started with pidof. If not, I start it under screen. Now, I turned of the irssi screen session. Then I started screen in order to run irssi under it. When screen came up, it launched irssi in screen based on .bashrc, and then I'd unknowingly start another instance myself :) |
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| 20:06.03 | azaghal | SeligArkin: In other words, I probably should've put it in .login or whatever it's called ;) |
| 20:06.09 | SeligArkin | ah oops. |
| 20:06.10 | rhkfin_ | novalis_dt: with a luck reading http://www.opkg.org/package_3.html & following the homepage/instructions links, maybe |
| 20:06.10 | SeligArkin | hehe |
| 20:08.34 | novalis_dt | rhkfin_, ah, I see. I tried the direct link from that page, |
| 20:09.44 | rhkfin_ | novalis_dt: it _should_ work but opkg.org has some issues now :( |
| 20:10.03 | novalis_dt | OK, I'll keep that in mind |
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| 20:19.56 | anttna | re Matches work ok too, cheap & available everywhere :) and they fit in the hole on the fr |) ~ http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/8/82/Fin.png |
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| 20:21.15 | rhkfin_ | anttna: heh :) |
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| 20:23.16 | SeligArkin | attacks geaaru and steald his phone |
| 20:23.25 | SeligArkin | runs off with it |
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| 20:53.18 | SeligArkin | I didn't think a channelof 316 could be this idle... |
| 20:56.55 | richy | SeligArkin, what do you expect? Everyone is busy coding ;) |
| 20:57.12 | SeligArkin | heh |
| 20:58.34 | rhkfin_ | richy: why can't I see the results ;) |
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| 21:00.07 | SeligArkin | we need to make teleportation, instant delivery |
| 21:01.59 | mmontour | SeligArkin: lots of people on this channel are in other timezones. It's more active at other times of the day |
| 21:02.33 | kirun | The only trouble is, if everyone in here really was coding, we'd have 300 half-working distros to choose from :P |
| 21:03.08 | rhkfin_ | kirun: You've obviously learned the real nature of openmoko-community :) |
| 21:03.18 | rhkfin_ | likes it :) |
| 21:05.32 | SeligArkin | hmm |
| 21:05.47 | SeligArkin | considers setting up openmoko in qemu to play with |
| 21:06.07 | max_posedon | kirun, it is ok, best will be alive, all others will be dead, Darwin theory, you know) |
| 21:06.23 | kirun | bah, stop spoiling things with your fancy facts and logic. |
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| 21:17.24 | johnsu01 | finally trying to get the critical lightsaber program working |
| 21:17.32 | johnsu01 | but pygame.mixer doesn't see the sound device |
| 21:18.10 | SeligArkin | oh god how did we live before the lightsaber program!? |
| 21:18.15 | johnsu01 | I'm not sure |
| 21:18.16 | SeligArkin | :P |
| 21:18.53 | SeligArkin | I don't thinik it would work very good, seeing as you would be busy swinging the phone around unable to see the swinging on the screen.:P |
| 21:18.55 | johnsu01 | but pygame.mixer.init() fails with a can't find /dev/sequencer |
| 21:19.50 | SeligArkin | ugh the anticipationis killing me! |
| 21:20.38 | richy | rhkfin, because I can't get it to crooscompile |
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| 21:21.44 | johnsu01 | well, I guess http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=394484 is my answer :( |
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| 21:31.37 | SeligArkin | flails her arms |
| 21:34.54 | SM2k | hey SeligArkin |
| 21:34.59 | slaxxin | shr testing settings is lots faster |
| 21:35.09 | SM2k | feeling antsy? :-) |
| 21:35.20 | SeligArkin | Waiting for mine to getto me. |
| 21:35.26 | SeligArkin | I am very very impatient |
| 21:36.14 | slaxxin | freerunner? |
| 21:36.19 | SeligArkin | yes |
| 21:36.32 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.40 | SeligArkin | openmoko likly |
| 21:36.46 | SeligArkin | I intend to play with the different ones |
| 21:37.09 | SeligArkin | pokes UPS to deliver to SDG Systems faster so they can send her one. >.> |
| 21:37.13 | slaxxin | bytestore has an openmoko 2008.12 thats fully loaded |
| 21:37.46 | SM2k | buggery. etk.Notebook widget doesn't exist on 2008.12 |
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| 22:07.21 | SeligArkin | Hmm question... |
| 22:07.41 | SeligArkin | the neo freerunner only supports up to 2.5G right? |
| 22:08.41 | johnsu01 | it does not support EDGE |
| 22:08.51 | mmontour | It supports GPRS |
| 22:09.17 | SeligArkin | I see... |
| 22:09.25 | SeligArkin | AT&T is supported, I hope... |
| 22:11.15 | mmontour | Yes. There was a bug affecting some AT&T 3G SIMs but I think it's fixed in the new GSM firmware. |
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| 22:17.49 | SeligArkin | I really hope that the openmoko phone will work... seeing as I think I totaled thephone functions on my 8525... |
| 22:18.54 | mmontour | You should have a second 'backup' phone (ask your friends if anyone has upgraded and will give you their old one). |
| 22:19.14 | SeligArkin | yeah |
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| 22:19.36 | SeligArkin | Looking for my screwdrivers to take this one apart again,m make sure I didn't forget to hook it back in |
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| 22:23.36 | Dave | seligarkin :P |
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| 22:26.14 | SeligArkin | lalala voiding warrentys |
| 22:33.33 | SeligArkin | how damageing is water to speakers? |
| 22:33.58 | CVirus | lol |
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| 22:34.48 | DocScrutinizer | SeligArkin: depends |
| 22:35.23 | SeligArkin | hmm... |
| 22:35.27 | tg | well, if you've soaked it in water for two hours.. :) |
| 22:35.28 | mmontour | It would be bad for a speaker with a paper cone, or if it caused a metal part to rust |
| 22:35.45 | DocScrutinizer | small ones with usual plasic membrane might work like new after carefully drying for a week or two |
| 22:36.31 | SeligArkin | does a google for thenumber on the bottom of it. |
| 22:36.46 | SpeedEvil | And there is 'water' and water. |
| 22:37.05 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 22:37.08 | SpeedEvil | Seawater is a very different thing from soft puretapwater |
| 22:37.21 | SeligArkin | at most a tablespoon of water dispursed in a baggie from a shower head. :P |
| 22:37.45 | SpeedEvil | batteries out, place in oven at 70C for a day. |
| 22:37.58 | SpeedEvil | or somewhere warm and dry - 40C+ for a week |
| 22:38.10 | DocScrutinizer | as soon as there's a noticeable amount of any salts (e.g. sugar) in the water, it will be borked |
| 22:38.20 | SeligArkin | I took it apart and dried the boards with a paper towel |
| 22:39.08 | SeligArkin | so far the only thing not workingn again is the speaker used for phone calls |
| 22:39.09 | DocScrutinizer | nah |
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| 22:39.34 | DocScrutinizer | the board needs a week of drying as well |
| 22:39.48 | SeligArkin | hmm thats not good |
| 22:39.56 | SeligArkin | guess I am going to "loose" it for a week. >.> |
| 22:40.19 | DocScrutinizer | otherwise you risk oxidation of switch contacts etc. |
| 22:40.35 | SpeedEvil | Or a more elevated temp |
| 22:40.39 | SpeedEvil | for a shorter time |
| 22:40.40 | DocScrutinizer | also under the chips water may stay |
| 22:41.09 | DocScrutinizer | not above 80° though |
| 22:41.22 | SpeedEvil | not without removing LCDs |
| 22:41.36 | Dave | wooo |
| 22:41.47 | Dave | warms his LCM |
| 22:42.27 | SpeedEvil | wow - 8G microSD have crashed in price |
| 22:43.38 | Dave | hell yeah 16GB! |
| 22:44.28 | CVirus | onece the reaction has started .. you can not stop it |
| 22:45.37 | Sharwin_F | Does FR recognize 16Gb microSD cards? |
| 22:46.27 | mmontour | It should but I don't know if anyone has tested it yet |
| 22:46.30 | DocScrutinizer | why not? |
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| 22:46.44 | eolson | when 16gb gets cheap enough, I'll have to look into putting movies on the neo again. |
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| 22:48.03 | SeligArkin | heh |
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| 22:50.30 | SeligArkin | so... |
| 22:50.48 | SeligArkin | how well does openmoko in an emulator show off for the real thing? |
| 22:50.57 | moo--- | eolson: you think neo has enough CPU horse power to decode those movies? :) |
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| 22:57.00 | ColdFyre | neo can decode h264 1080p fine |
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| 22:57.57 | Dave | o_O |
| 22:58.08 | eolson | moo, yes, I worked on it a while back and eventually got a decent movie working, still with some audio/video sync issues. getting it to play back in sync was the hardest thing (partially a mencoder/mplayer issue) |
| 22:58.15 | SpeedEvil | I have actually had my GTA01 doing that, rotating it, and encoding into 240x320 mpeg-2 |
| 22:58.29 | SpeedEvil | not - admittedly realtime though. |
| 22:58.44 | eolson | Speedevil, right, but did you have audio going and was it synced? |
| 22:58.58 | SpeedEvil | eolson: audio was synced in the resulting output file |
| 22:59.38 | eolson | Do you have any improvements from your post on the wiki? |
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| 23:00.31 | eolson | maybe if I just use the wiki transcoding notes correctly, I won't have any problems |
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| 23:02.45 | eolson | and I think I ran into sync issues when combining multiple large files, but I'll have to try it again |
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| 23:14.10 | moo--- | eolson: you also used mpeg2? |
| 23:22.26 | SeligArkin | hmhm I know a camera is on the 'wishlist' but is there any news if it will actualy be in the next phone? |
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| 23:22.45 | lindi- | SeligArkin: kernel has code for it at least |
| 23:24.09 | SeligArkin | I wonder... |
| 23:26.41 | SeligArkin | doesn't look like there are any bluetooth webcams... |
| 23:27.34 | SeligArkin | think the usb port on the neo could provide enough power for a webcam? |
| 23:27.49 | jeffszusz | probably not, Selig |
| 23:27.55 | SeligArkin | didn't think so. :/ |
| 23:27.56 | mmontour | http://bt-1.com/ (bluetooth webcam "Availability: Late Q1 2009") |
| 23:28.07 | jeffszusz | Ooooo |
| 23:28.08 | jeffszusz | nice |
| 23:28.30 | jeffszusz | does the Neo make phonecalls, send SMS messages etc. reliably yet? |
| 23:28.33 | eolson | moo, looks like the last thing I was trying was h263p but whatever I did wasn't quite good enough. I'll have to try mpeg2 |
| 23:29.41 | richy | jeffszusz, I guess "most of the time" describes it |
| 23:29.49 | eolson | speedevil put some video things on the wiki a long time ago that hopefully will just work |
| 23:29.51 | richy | (on shr-testing, moko11) |
| 23:30.02 | jeffszusz | "most of the time" ? |
| 23:30.07 | moo--- | h263 is ugly ugly |
| 23:31.14 | richy | very rarely it just freezes on me, I don't know why |
| 23:31.22 | eolson | moo, ah, good to know :) i haven't used 263 enough to know the difference |
| 23:31.32 | richy | maybe once every 4 weeks or so |
| 23:31.48 | SeligArkin | richy: memory problem? |
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| 23:32.09 | SeligArkin | and thate better than someoneI know's blackberry |
| 23:32.18 | SeligArkin | he has to pull the batteru every fraking day |
| 23:32.25 | SeligArkin | battery* |
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| 23:33.33 | richy | SeligArkin, shouldn't. I turn it off during the night |
| 23:33.43 | SeligArkin | hmm |
| 23:33.58 | SeligArkin | cronjob gone bad? does it happen the same time every month? |
| 23:35.07 | richy | not that I noticed |
| 23:35.35 | richy | I could have been different problems in different situations |
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| 23:35.55 | SeligArkin | Around the same time long enough for you to notice? I kinda doubt that. :P |
| 23:36.16 | richy | I used unstable before it got relabeled testing a few days ago.. |
| 23:36.35 | Dave | :( |
| 23:37.03 | lindi-_ | SeligArkin: my usb webcam works just fine with freerunner |
| 23:38.06 | richy | SeligArkin, I don't your point, I'm afraid |
| 23:38.18 | lindi-_ | SeligArkin: it can supply 500 mA afaik and that is the largest current any device can ask |
| 23:38.29 | SeligArkin | can you still ssh into it using the USB network, or is it a total system lock up? |
| 23:39.47 | slaxxin | dd |
| 23:40.01 | slaxxin | wassa |
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| 23:40.21 | richy | SeligArkin, it didn't lock up at all |
| 23:40.29 | richy | just GSM-Function were not working |
| 23:40.46 | SeligArkin | lindi-_: ah I wasn't sure about that, not familiar with the specs of usb |
| 23:40.59 | Dave | comforts seligarkin |
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| 23:41.37 | lindi-_ | SeligArkin: can't blame you, usb is quite complex beast |
| 23:42.46 | SeligArkin | I go running screaming from anything moderately complex with electronics. :P |
| 23:42.59 | SeligArkin | is more of a back-end person, software |
| 23:43.13 | shellevil | USB2 is a savage beast. |
| 23:43.13 | shellevil | It has killed hundreds of developers. |
| 23:43.14 | shellevil | Their heads simply exploding. |
| 23:43.26 | SeligArkin | :O |
| 23:43.38 | SeligArkin | calls in the x-files |
| 23:43.50 | SeligArkin | such complex technnology must be alien! |
| 23:44.17 | shellevil | physically it's an easy and simple interface. |
| 23:44.30 | shellevil | It's at the protocol level that the head-explosions occur |
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