| 00:00.22 | mmontour | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:00.26 | mmontour | says hello |
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| 00:01.31 | ColdFyre | haha, the android kernel works with SHR |
| 00:01.42 | ColdFyre | and it's super fast |
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| 00:04.03 | mmp | hmm, still no newer e-wm-utils around? :) |
| 00:04.56 | esa-petri | admits to be new to irc |
| 00:05.55 | esa-petri | cryes for data-loss |
| 00:06.04 | ColdFyre | mmp i take it you tried the shr -lite mar5/7 releases? |
| 00:06.16 | mmp | ColdFyre: yes |
| 00:06.30 | ColdFyre | me too, same problem |
| 00:06.49 | ColdFyre | set your icons to slider and some things appear :D |
| 00:06.56 | mmp | yes, I did that |
| 00:07.01 | mmp | but that's far from optimal :) |
| 00:07.12 | Fougner | ColdFyre, :O |
| 00:07.14 | mmp | but still better than noting |
| 00:07.17 | mmp | *nothin |
| 00:07.35 | ColdFyre | i could not get a dialer or anything useful |
| 00:07.47 | Fougner | android kernel + SHR = fast? :D |
| 00:08.06 | ColdFyre | Fougner: it was booted with gsm registration in under 30 sec |
| 00:08.11 | mmp | ok, got to go sleep, goot night :-) |
| 00:08.15 | mmp | *good |
| 00:09.09 | Fougner | ColdFyre, last time I tried to call |
| 00:09.17 | Fougner | with android |
| 00:09.35 | Fougner | I don't know what happened, but it didn't want to call :P |
| 00:09.50 | ColdFyre | yeah, same here, the gsm kept crapping out |
| 00:09.56 | Fougner | so, SHR + androidkernel you say? |
| 00:10.00 | ColdFyre | i was able to make one phone call and send 2 messages |
| 00:10.08 | ColdFyre | yeah, it worked, lol |
| 00:10.56 | ColdFyre | i might try gentoo, since my desktop is a pretty powerful machine, i cna cross compile something in no time |
| 00:11.11 | Fougner | eh |
| 00:11.15 | Fougner | what distro? |
| 00:11.49 | rzr | Fougner: did u test cupcake ? |
| 00:11.56 | fredrin | what's so special about the android kernel? |
| 00:12.04 | Fougner | rzr, sorry? |
| 00:12.10 | rzr | android |
| 00:12.20 | Fougner | explanation |
| 00:12.22 | rzr | i just wrote on review |
| 00:12.29 | Fougner | I'm a little tired you know :) |
| 00:12.36 | rzr | cupcake = android next release |
| 00:12.46 | Fougner | oh |
| 00:12.51 | Fougner | Beta 4? :P |
| 00:12.58 | fredrin | mmmmmmm cupcake |
| 00:13.03 | Fougner | or is it more a 'stable' approach? |
| 00:13.49 | rzr | test it , there is video + tutorial linked at http://digg.com/users/rzrfreefr |
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| 00:14.21 | Fougner | okay, thx |
| 00:14.23 | Fougner | hmm |
| 00:14.31 | Fougner | nope, Git is not for me, yet.. |
| 00:14.51 | Fougner | rzr, Tuvalu? |
| 00:14.53 | Fougner | where is this place? |
| 00:14.55 | rzr | yea: ) |
| 00:15.11 | rzr | this is the smallest island in the world |
| 00:15.21 | Dave | :) |
| 00:15.27 | rzr | where pple care about privacy |
| 00:15.49 | Fougner | oh |
| 00:15.52 | rzr | http://digg.com/users/rzrfreefr |
| 00:15.59 | Fougner | I better check it out |
| 00:16.02 | rzr | err |
| 00:16.03 | rzr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvalu |
| 00:16.29 | rzr | Its population of 11,992 makes it the third-least populated independent country in the world, with only Vatican City and Nauru |
| 00:17.00 | Dave | Do you like it? :P |
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| 00:17.29 | rzr | Dave: never went there , do you ? |
| 00:17.44 | Dave | oh :D |
| 00:17.51 | Fougner | ooh, so you're the rightful owners of the cool .tv domain :D |
| 00:18.21 | Fougner | rzr, I think Dave meant Tuvalu ? |
| 00:18.47 | Digital_Pioneer | So is anyone else having trouble with remoko not working because it thinks the remoko_server module doesn't exist? |
| 00:19.26 | rzr | i'll have to relocate : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tuvalu_Funafuti_atoll_beach.jpg |
| 00:19.56 | rzr | untill it disapear : The highest elevation is 4.5 metres (15 ft) above sea level,[10] which gives Tuvalu the second-lowest maximum elevation of any country |
| 00:20.07 | Fougner | rzr, wow, beauuuuutiful :D |
| 00:20.46 | rzr | what about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tuvaluwoman1894.jpg |
| 00:21.49 | shellevil | rzr: 1894 - you number them? |
| 00:22.26 | shellevil | We give ours names. |
| 00:22.26 | rzr | :) |
| 00:22.31 | Fougner | 1894 is the year, right? |
| 00:23.06 | zash | Fougner: more like 1984 |
| 00:23.25 | Dave | :) |
| 00:23.30 | Fougner | zash, why? :D |
| 00:24.14 | zash | Fougner: that would be a reference to various laws fucking our rights |
| 00:25.05 | Fougner | uhm |
| 00:25.11 | Fougner | happy today, are we? :P |
| 00:25.22 | Fougner | now you have to explain that to me :) |
| 00:25.46 | Fougner | "Europeans have taken a lot of inventions by Muslim scientists and called them their own. the camera is one of many. " |
| 00:25.58 | esa-petri | how to pass option to nor uboot |
| 00:26.18 | shellevil | zas: bnking-wise? |
| 00:31.57 | zash | shellevil: wut |
| 00:39.18 | Digital_Pioneer | Hey, does anyone have a file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/remoko/__init__.py? |
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| 00:41.44 | Digital_Pioneer | Or a /usr/share/remoko/data/settings.cfg? |
| 00:41.54 | Digital_Pioneer | Remoko seems rather screwed up... |
| 00:46.48 | Fougner | Digital_Pioneer, what distro ? |
| 00:47.00 | Digital_Pioneer | SHR |
| 00:47.14 | Fougner | as a whole, most things seems to be screwed up :D |
| 00:47.41 | Digital_Pioneer | LOL |
| 00:49.37 | Fougner | :o |
| 00:49.39 | Fougner | why? :P |
| 00:50.18 | Fougner | hmm |
| 00:50.20 | Fougner | LEFT JOIN! |
| 00:58.38 | esa-petri | cheers for first sucesfull boot from uSD |
| 01:04.53 | Digital_Pioneer | !!!!!!!!! ICONS!!! I have ICONS in SHR again!!! |
| 01:10.01 | esa-petri | uncheers for first time openmoko freezes on uSD |
| 01:20.44 | Fougner | lol |
| 01:20.59 | Fougner | esa-petri, distro? |
| 01:21.15 | esa-petri | fyp |
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| 01:25.03 | esa-petri | howto get openmoko use combuters net when in ssh connection |
| 01:30.03 | Fougner | uhm |
| 01:30.24 | Fougner | I've got a script here, will probably work with most distros based on OM official and debian |
| 01:30.37 | esa-petri | link ? |
| 01:31.02 | Fougner | http://pastebin.com/d5dc1a9f9 |
| 01:31.08 | Fougner | save it as a script, |
| 01:31.10 | Fougner | and run |
| 01:31.27 | Fougner | it should make your interface 'usb0' connectable |
| 01:31.45 | Fougner | and also the freerunner can connect through the host, to internet |
| 01:32.16 | Fougner | this will work if you got 192.168.10.X as LAN adress |
| 01:32.32 | Fougner | 192.168.0.X wont work |
| 01:33.33 | esa-petri | su `whoami` should there be my user name there |
| 01:34.14 | Fougner | nope |
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| 01:34.34 | Fougner | whoami is actually the command for getting your username |
| 01:34.42 | Fougner | try it in the terminal |
| 01:34.42 | esa-petri | I see |
| 01:34.47 | Fougner | and you'll see =) |
| 01:34.54 | shellevil | su whoami should always return root |
| 01:34.59 | shellevil | shouldn't it? |
| 01:35.01 | Fougner | thank GOD for energy drinks |
| 01:35.09 | Fougner | shellevil, haha |
| 01:35.12 | Fougner | sorry |
| 01:35.14 | Fougner | I'm tireed |
| 01:35.43 | shellevil | sorry |
| 01:35.46 | shellevil | no, it won't |
| 01:35.56 | shellevil | shell will expand it first |
| 01:36.13 | shellevil | but it won't do anything sensible |
| 01:36.42 | Fougner | uhm |
| 01:36.44 | Digital_Pioneer | OK, I got my SHR icons back... But I have rogue icons for XMMS, Firefox, and Xterm. |
| 01:36.51 | Fougner | I'm too tired to think about this :D |
| 01:36.55 | esa-petri | Anyway I need get rest now. at mornig I use difrent rootfs. om's officall. to get beter result |
| 01:36.58 | Digital_Pioneer | Where the heck are those coming from and how do I get rid of the stupid things?? :\ |
| 01:37.10 | Fougner | esa-petri, try SHR |
| 01:37.16 | Fougner | or, what do you want to do? |
| 01:37.23 | Fougner | OM official is quite "dead" |
| 01:37.27 | shellevil | shell expands 'whoami to the current username, then calls 'su currentusername' |
| 01:37.35 | esa-petri | why? |
| 01:38.04 | esa-petri | I need only terminall to install debian on it |
| 01:38.05 | Fougner | esa-petri, dunno, old codebase? |
| 01:38.20 | Fougner | SHR + FSO |
| 01:38.46 | Fougner | should be the most stable combination in a few months, no? |
| 01:39.02 | esa-petri | might be |
| 01:39.17 | Digital_Pioneer | Ahh, got 'em! >:) |
| 01:39.58 | esa-petri | but I like debian(lot) |
| 01:40.30 | esa-petri | and need something lightweight under it to start installation |
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| 01:41.50 | Fougner | uhm |
| 01:42.24 | Fougner | so, you're going to install a OM distro, to get a terminal, and from there, install a debian system? |
| 01:42.38 | esa-petri | yep |
| 01:42.45 | Fougner | why not install the debian images directly? |
| 01:42.48 | esa-petri | isn't that good idea |
| 01:43.09 | Fougner | what for? |
| 01:43.29 | esa-petri | to get envorment that I like |
| 01:43.37 | Fougner | okay |
| 01:44.08 | Fougner | so you're going with the official debian procedure or what? |
| 01:44.28 | esa-petri | eys the officall |
| 01:44.33 | Fougner | cause you have to install FSO and things to get the FR to work as a phone =) |
| 01:44.38 | Fougner | I'd guess |
| 01:45.09 | esa-petri | I am looking more combuter like envoirment |
| 01:45.22 | Fougner | I'm not sure about this, but I'd say there's a lot easier going with the FR images for debian, setting up an environment from there |
| 01:45.44 | Fougner | esa-petri, well, the FR debian images shouldn't be so far away from that |
| 01:45.52 | Fougner | it should basically be the same |
| 01:46.48 | Fougner | maybe I'm wrong, but why would anyone setup separate projects if the official debian setup would work with the FR without modifications? |
| 01:47.46 | Fougner | so you don't want to use the FR as a phone ? |
| 01:47.54 | esa-petri | i want |
| 01:48.20 | esa-petri | and I want same kind of envoirment as fyp 2 was |
| 01:49.25 | esa-petri | but whit "small" modifications |
| 01:49.36 | slaxxin | y large icons? |
| 01:50.31 | esa-petri | Is there any "of the shelf" debian images |
| 01:50.36 | esa-petri | for fr |
| 01:50.50 | mwester | did you check the wiki? |
| 01:50.59 | Fougner | esa-petri, to get the FR to work with debian, I think you have to choose a OM debian image |
| 01:51.12 | esa-petri | where |
| 01:51.19 | Fougner | wiki.openmoko.org |
| 01:51.41 | esa-petri | yeah but more acuary |
| 01:52.19 | Fougner | okay |
| 01:52.20 | Fougner | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian |
| 01:52.22 | Fougner | there you go |
| 01:52.26 | Fougner | apparently there is a way |
| 01:52.46 | Fougner | but probably this is easier: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian |
| 01:54.56 | Dave | Rawr |
| 01:55.50 | mwester | bzzzzzzzzz. |
| 01:56.57 | esa-petri | that is what I was going to do now I neeeed sleeeep |
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| 01:57.58 | esa-petri | goo... 10^1000 more o's here ...ood NiGhT |
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| 02:04.37 | Fougner | Dave! :D |
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| 02:13.29 | fredrin | what pass? |
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| 02:16.03 | Fougner | fredrin, what? :p |
| 02:16.07 | Fougner | good night ever1 |
| 02:16.09 | Fougner | every1 |
| 02:16.21 | Fougner | 3 Am here.. |
| 02:16.22 | Fougner | zzzz |
| 02:16.31 | fredrin | 00:16 her |
| 02:16.33 | fredrin | e |
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| 02:20.30 | Digital_Pioneer | The suspend button in SHR unstable is no longer greyed, but it doesn't do anything when I hit it. |
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| 02:41.31 | fredrin | do gprs use much power if left on? |
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| 03:01.37 | fredrin | connecting to internet with usb0 after using gprs on shr-testing fails :( |
| 03:16.14 | slaxxin | firefox,XMMS,GQView ,an Audacity fail on shr unstable with r-4 kernel |
| 03:16.22 | slaxxin | lol |
| 03:17.14 | slaxxin | along with the usual not being able to set maps to card in tango |
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| 03:20.47 | Dave | WHO DAVES ME? |
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| 03:31.53 | balrog-kun | WHO DAVES DAVE?! |
| 03:33.04 | balrog-kun | those bastards |
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| 03:39.27 | slaxxin | balrog-kun consider yourself DAVed |
| 03:49.34 | fredrin | satan fails me :( |
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| 05:28.09 | Dave | balrogkun! |
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| 09:15.37 | Inc_Vega | Mazal Tov |
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| 10:09.18 | esa-petri | does anyboby know good debian rootfs for openmoko's uSD |
| 10:09.26 | Fougner | Dave!!!!!! |
| 10:11.00 | esa-petri | geting bit by bit borred for uncefull copying stuf there and kernel panics |
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| 10:15.34 | esa-petri | what daily om-console has inside |
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| 10:24.49 | lindi- | esa-petri: you use the installer |
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| 10:26.55 | esa-petri | haven't tried yet, I am bit confused how to use it |
| 10:27.21 | lindi- | esa-petri: you boot some other distro and run install.sh |
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| 10:45.49 | Bert_2 | can someone name me a few replacements for zhone or is paroli the only one ? |
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| 10:53.06 | lindi- | Bert_2: does kapula count? ;) |
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| 10:53.40 | Bert_2 | lindi-: no idea, I don't know it |
| 10:54.02 | lindi- | Bert_2: http://iki.fi/lindi/darcs/kapula/ |
| 10:54.37 | Bert_2 | lindi-: any screenshots or opkg's ? |
| 10:54.44 | Defiant- | uhm. Do you still get the usb pressed/release event with the latest 2.6.28 kernel in debian or andy tracking? Can anyone try? |
| 10:54.47 | lindi- | Bert_2: not really no |
| 10:55.01 | lindi- | Defiant-: how do i test? |
| 10:55.12 | Defiant- | hexdump /dev/input/event4 |
| 10:55.35 | Bert_2 | anyone here tested Fyp ? |
| 10:55.53 | lindi- | Defiant-: nothing when i reinsert usb cable |
| 10:56.10 | Defiant- | lindi-: but you get output there when pressing power power or aux? |
| 10:56.23 | lindi- | Defiant-: yes |
| 10:56.27 | Defiant- | lindi-: k |
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| 10:57.54 | Bert_2 | anyone here tested Fyp ? |
| 10:59.06 | Bert_2 | apparently not :s |
| 11:00.06 | lindi- | Bert_2: i read their .bash_history |
| 11:00.30 | lindi- | Bert_2: i haven't found source code for their modifications yet |
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| 11:06.01 | Defiant- | lindi-: I will fill a bug then... |
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| 11:16.47 | Bert_2 | what's the best best way to get a jffs2 file on to an SD card when there's no tar supplied ? |
| 11:18.39 | tomboy64 | Bert_2, how are you connected to your fr? |
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| 11:21.08 | Bert_2 | tomboy64: I can chose but I really want it on my SD card and non on the NAND |
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| 11:22.02 | rhkfin_ | Anyone know if http://people.openmoko.org/andy/uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_andy-tracking-d1a9cf85c8608601.bin should work on 2008.12? Is this correct: I first download & untar the modules in freerunner root, then flash the .bin and that's it? |
| 11:22.16 | rhkfin_ | Tried yesterday with the older versions and it wouldn't start.. |
| 11:22.41 | lindi- | rhkfin_: the modules better be there before booting yes |
| 11:24.09 | tomboy64 | Bert_2, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Userspace_root_image |
| 11:24.32 | tomboy64 | Bert_2, there it is described how to convert a jffs2-image to a tar file |
| 11:25.18 | Bert_2 | tomboy64: thx, I searched for that but I couldn't find it |
| 11:25.30 | tomboy64 | yw :) |
| 11:26.30 | rhkfin_ | ha - it started :) |
| 11:26.42 | rhkfin_ | but can't ssh in.. |
| 11:27.00 | Bert_2 | tomboy64: where is the part where it explains how to convert ? |
| 11:27.21 | tomboy64 | i'm afraid you will have to loop-mount it |
| 11:27.25 | tomboy64 | rhkfin_, can you ping it? |
| 11:27.31 | rhkfin_ | ok, running 2.6.29, nice :) |
| 11:28.06 | rhkfin_ | tomboy64: I'll try if wlan works. ping over usb doesn't work.. |
| 11:28.25 | tomboy64 | rhkfin_, did you boot with your freerunner attached via usb? |
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| 11:29.07 | rhkfin_ | tomboy64: yep |
| 11:29.20 | tomboy64 | rhkfin_, don't do that :) |
| 11:29.23 | esa-petri | I have teste fyp |
| 11:29.25 | Bert_2 | tomboy: if I loop mount it ad then make a tar of the mounted stuff, will it then work ? |
| 11:29.28 | rhkfin_ | tomboy64: oh.. ok.. will restart :) |
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| 11:29.35 | tomboy64 | rhkfin_, wait |
| 11:29.43 | rhkfin_ | anyway ssh ofer wlan didn't work either.. |
| 11:29.49 | rhkfin_ | (restarted alread : |
| 11:29.53 | tomboy64 | rhkfin_, try ifdown usb0 && ifup usb0 |
| 11:29.56 | tomboy64 | on your freerunner |
| 11:30.01 | tomboy64 | that should work |
| 11:30.07 | rhkfin_ | ah, right.. sometimes that helps, you're rith.. |
| 11:30.08 | rhkfin_ | right |
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| 11:35.07 | rhkfin_ | nope, restarting didn't help, neither does ifdown/up usb0. I can ping over wlan but can't ssh in (because it's blocked, will open it..) |
| 11:39.19 | esa-petri | how what were those internet sites where copy something and then other can look it |
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| 11:39.38 | tomboy64 | rhkfin_, check /etc/default/dropbear |
| 11:39.48 | tomboy64 | rhkfin_, it blocks access from anything but usb |
| 11:40.02 | rhkfin_ | yep |
| 11:40.10 | rhkfin_ | By default in 2008.12 it does. Just changed |
| 11:40.13 | Fougner | esa-petri, pastebin |
| 11:41.51 | rhkfin_ | esa-petri: did you know about the finnish Openmoko -channel at #openmoko-fi ? |
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| 11:43.27 | rhkfin_ | Hmm.. so any idea why ssh over usb doesn't work..? |
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| 11:47.39 | Fougner | rhkfin_, what are you trying to do? :) |
| 11:47.41 | Fougner | just normal ssh? |
| 11:47.44 | Fougner | which distro? |
| 11:48.34 | Fougner | if your computer is on a network other than 192.168.0.XX as the default FR setting is, you can use this script. It helps me a lot :) |
| 11:48.45 | Fougner | http://pastebin.com/d5dc1a9f9 |
| 11:49.11 | rhkfin_ | Fougner: that's not the problem.. |
| 11:50.21 | Fougner | ah |
| 11:50.22 | rhkfin_ | 2008.12 & new andy-tracking kernel. Updated the kernel to see if anything in https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2253 would change (and it did). But for some reason I can't now ssh in over usb, it's always worked before -> I suspect something in the kernel has changed the behaviour of the USB (networking) |
| 11:51.25 | lindi- | rhkfin_: sounds like you did not load the g_ether module? |
| 11:51.42 | Fougner | haha |
| 11:51.44 | Fougner | wtf is this |
| 11:51.55 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: I didn't do it manually, right.. how to do it..? |
| 11:52.18 | Fougner | some graphical setting, makes the FR screech :D |
| 11:52.18 | lindi- | rhkfin_: zgrep ETHER /proc/config.gz might give us a hint |
| 11:52.54 | Fougner | too funny |
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| 11:53.26 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: I'm not running debian - I don't have zgreb :) |
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| 11:54.06 | rhkfin_ | -> unzip config & then grep for ether? |
| 11:54.15 | lindi- | rhkfin_: gunzip yes |
| 11:54.50 | rhkfin_ | CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y |
| 11:54.50 | rhkfin_ | CONFIG_USB_NET_CDCETHER=y |
| 11:55.09 | Nullix | rhkfin_: is it just ssh or ethernet overusb that is not working |
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| 11:55.31 | lindi- | rhkfin_: looks ok then |
| 11:55.32 | rhkfin_ | Nullix: at least ssh |
| 11:55.47 | lindi- | rhkfin_: is usb0 up on both sides? |
| 11:56.18 | Nullix | two days agos i lost ethernet over usb conenctivity by upgrading my distro, but i am not sure what was the distro, to recover i did flashed a brand new 2008.12 version |
| 11:56.41 | lindi- | Nullix: blah, you let the bug escape! |
| 11:56.55 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: desktop tells me that no such device (usb0) |
| 11:56.56 | Nullix | now it recovered usb but i lost Wifi Setting in gui |
| 11:57.08 | rhkfin_ | when trying to ifup usb0 |
| 11:57.23 | Nullix | lindi: sure i have it for some days, so i am learning first |
| 11:57.29 | lindi- | rhkfin_: what about lsusb -vvv on desktop? |
| 11:58.45 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: it actually sees FR: http://pastebin.com/d2465db6b |
| 11:58.54 | Nullix | mine just hang, (btw i reported it here... the problem, perhpas not good enough) |
| 12:01.38 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin_: do a 'less +F /var/log/messages' before inserting usb jack |
| 12:02.03 | Fougner | DocScrutinizer! :D |
| 12:02.25 | rhkfin_ | DocScrutinizer: on fr or desktop? |
| 12:02.25 | lindi- | rhkfin_: the only difference to my system is mac address |
| 12:02.31 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: hmm.. |
| 12:02.33 | DocScrutinizer | desk |
| 12:02.43 | Nullix | rhkrhkfin-: doesn't look like my problem, since lsusb just hung |
| 12:02.49 | rhkfin_ | ok |
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| 12:03.11 | lindi- | rhkfin_: is it charging over usb? |
| 12:03.33 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: yes |
| 12:03.35 | Nullix | ifconfig 192.168.0.200 usb0 tells something |
| 12:03.45 | Nullix | the other way |
| 12:04.02 | Nullix | sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0 |
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| 12:04.19 | rhkfin_ | DocScrutinizer: it recognizes, this is what dmesg shows: http://pastebin.com/d3cd191a6 |
| 12:04.27 | Nullix | ping 192.168.0.202 ? |
| 12:04.36 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin_: is networkmanager running on your desk? |
| 12:05.09 | rhkfin_ | DocScrutinizer: no |
| 12:05.12 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, dmsg |
| 12:05.24 | rhkfin_ | ssh over usb worked fine before updating the kernel |
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| 12:06.30 | DocScrutinizer | syslog should show you if it enumerated and if the correct network drives is loaded |
| 12:06.44 | rhkfin_ | Nullix: ping gives me 'Destination host unreachable' (remember that usb0 is down..) |
| 12:06.48 | Nullix | ping 192.168.0.202 then arp -an to see if ip connectivty is possible |
| 12:07.10 | lindi- | Nullix: if usb0 is down then surely it does not work? |
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| 12:07.28 | DocScrutinizer | no use in ping as long as ifconfig doesn't show usb network card |
| 12:08.00 | Fougner | you have to SEE the usb0 first =D |
| 12:08.11 | rhkfin_ | ifup/down & lsusb: http://pastebin.com/d69327780 |
| 12:08.35 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin_: ifconfig !!! |
| 12:08.41 | lindi- | rhkfin_: ifconfig -a? |
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| 12:08.48 | Fougner | DocScrutinizer, can you code any scripting languages for the web? |
| 12:08.59 | vininim | web 2.0 |
| 12:09.05 | DocScrutinizer | web?? duh, no |
| 12:09.08 | Fougner | :D |
| 12:09.15 | Fougner | but you can C ? :P |
| 12:09.21 | rhkfin_ | ifcoonfig -a: http://pastebin.com/d65072b81 |
| 12:09.39 | Fougner | whereis DocScrutinizer |
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| 12:09.55 | Fougner | woohooo my FR is bootin :D |
| 12:09.58 | lindi- | rhkfin_: eth1 |
| 12:10.06 | lindi- | rhkfin_: eth1 has the MAC address of your FR |
| 12:10.07 | Fougner | ~_~ |
| 12:10.08 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 12:10.10 | lindi- | rhkfin_: it's not usb0 |
| 12:10.39 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: hmm.. What could have changed it..? I don't think so but I'll try... |
| 12:11.13 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: http://pastebin.com/d6b00bc6 |
| 12:11.19 | Nullix | rhkfin_: eth1 register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:1d.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:1f:8f |
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| 12:11.40 | lindi- | rhkfin_: 'ifup' relies on /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:11.56 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: http://pastebin.com/d5fcdbf3c (interfaces) |
| 12:12.15 | lindi- | rhkfin_: yep, better duplicate that usb0 stuff for eth1 |
| 12:12.28 | Nullix | why does it choose eth1 name instead of usb0... anyway if you settup eth1 with 192.168.0.200 does it work ? |
| 12:12.54 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: oh, okay.. But does it make any sense that updating FR kernel changes it from usb0 -> eth1...??!! |
| 12:12.59 | lindi- | Nullix: first we need to identify what "it" is |
| 12:13.05 | lindi- | Nullix: is it udev? |
| 12:13.19 | lindi- | rhkfin_: compare "sudo lsusb -vvv" |
| 12:13.26 | lindi- | rhkfin_: of old and new kernel, you'll see a difference |
| 12:15.17 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin_: you would have noticed all this with 'tail /var/log/messages' by yourself |
| 12:15.48 | DocScrutinizer | or better 'less +F' instead of tail |
| 12:16.43 | lindi- | tail --follow=file |
| 12:16.53 | lindi- | tail --follow=name |
| 12:17.33 | rhkfin_ | huh - it works.. So updating the kernel on freerunner changes the USB interface from usb0 to eth1 on desktop?!!? Could someone explain this to me? |
| 12:18.13 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: yup. forgot as I never use tail ;-) |
| 12:18.19 | lindi- | rhkfin_: it's the desktop that does the naming |
| 12:18.33 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: yes...? |
| 12:18.42 | lindi- | rhkfin_: so blame your desktop ;)) |
| 12:19.06 | lindi- | rhkfin_: it's usb0 here with 'new' kernel |
| 12:19.37 | DocScrutinizer | also here never seen if0 |
| 12:19.44 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: an hour ago (nothing changed on the desktop, no updates, nothing) I ssh'd in FR over usb0 and uploaded the modules there. Then flashed the kernel and zadam - my desktop doesn't recognize it as usb0 anymore.. Sound magic to me.. |
| 12:19.56 | Fougner | is there a way to configure TangoGPS via terminal? |
| 12:20.00 | lindi- | rhkfin_: the lsusb output has changed |
| 12:21.38 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: hmm.. ok.. So FR returns different line in the new kernel and that's why something on the desktop maps it as eth1.. got it.. Thanks! :) |
| 12:21.59 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin_: probably U once created a network card for usbdevice number xy |
| 12:22.29 | rhkfin_ | Fougner: after creating a config file, it's stored in ~/.gconf/something but the default settings are hard-coded |
| 12:23.21 | rhkfin_ | DocScrutinizer: just followed the wiki & ssh-over-usb & ubuntu hacks :) Took for granted that it is a generic solution for FR :) |
| 12:23.43 | Fougner | gosh, TangoGPS gives a segmentation fault |
| 12:24.02 | rhkfin_ | Fougner: What version? |
| 12:24.05 | rhkfin_ | 0.96? |
| 12:24.09 | DocScrutinizer | usb enumerates for a new device number each time you insert again the usb plug |
| 12:24.14 | Fougner | uhm, have they got version? |
| 12:24.15 | Fougner | ah |
| 12:24.19 | Fougner | you mean tango? |
| 12:24.24 | rhkfin_ | Fougner: yes |
| 12:24.31 | Fougner | 0.9.5 i think |
| 12:24.33 | DocScrutinizer | well i dunno |
| 12:24.33 | rhkfin_ | ok |
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| 12:24.49 | DocScrutinizer | look into messages ;-) |
| 12:24.50 | rhkfin_ | DocScrutinizer: ok :) |
| 12:25.01 | Fougner | god I hate this |
| 12:25.29 | rhkfin_ | Fougner: specify.. more details.. |
| 12:25.58 | Fougner | well, I'm trying to save the config, and then Tango exits, segmentation fault |
| 12:26.07 | Fougner | SHR latest testing image |
| 12:26.34 | DocScrutinizer | rhkfin_: an offensive suggestion: reboot your PC and test again |
| 12:26.43 | rhkfin_ | DocScrutinizer: ok |
| 12:27.33 | rhkfin_ | Fougner: just planning to try shr.. maybe.. let's see.. |
| 12:27.56 | Fougner | NO! Don't do it. It'll have you killed |
| 12:28.02 | Fougner | it's eeeeeeeviiiil!!!!! |
| 12:28.04 | rhkfin_ | heh :) |
| 12:28.19 | rhkfin_ | 'stick with 2008.12', you say :) |
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| 12:28.57 | rhkfin_ | Fougner: how about unstable? |
| 12:29.48 | rhkfin_ | Anyone have PHP & bash skills to see why opkg.org repository is atm a total failure: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html |
| 12:33.46 | vininim | lolphp |
| 12:35.36 | tomboy64 | ewww |
| 12:35.43 | tomboy64 | unstable |
| 12:35.46 | tomboy64 | ^^ |
| 12:38.10 | Wonka | even worse: PHP |
| 12:40.34 | billk | rhkfin_: whats the name of a failed package? |
| 12:41.59 | rhkfin_ | billk: many, for example sortdesk I think |
| 12:42.08 | Heinervdm | rhkfin_: ar x $file control.tar.gz <- what is ar for a command? |
| 12:42.19 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: try :) |
| 12:42.29 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: ah.. |
| 12:42.32 | rhkfin_ | point! |
| 12:42.38 | Heinervdm | ;) |
| 12:42.49 | rhkfin_ | ar would open a .ipk but not a .tar.gz..? no? |
| 12:42.52 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: where? |
| 12:43.07 | rhkfin_ | DocScrutinizer: restarted, eth1 works, usb0 doesn't. Thanks for help! |
| 12:43.17 | Heinervdm | rhkfin_: create_repo.sh line 10 |
| 12:43.23 | DocScrutinizer | strange |
| 12:43.29 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: wonderful :) |
| 12:44.17 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: no.. I think that line extracts control.tar.gz from $file that happens to be an ipk... |
| 12:44.24 | rhkfin_ | so I'd think it does what expected.. |
| 12:44.30 | Heinervdm | ok |
| 12:46.44 | Heinervdm | rhkfin_: why do you download a local file with wget? |
| 12:46.48 | billk | rhkfin_: last line of http://www.opkg.org/create_repo.txt uses ftp in ascii mode to transfer binary packages |
| 12:47.16 | billk | I think - cant find ftp2.input but I think its just a list of file names. |
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| 12:48.46 | rhkfin_ | It's not my script (not administratoring opkg.org) but I really would like to find out what's wrong there.. |
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| 12:49.34 | Heinervdm | in get_packages.sh the file list is downloaded from a local directory with wget, thats really strange |
| 12:49.50 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: not downloading a local file, I'd think -i = input and the file has the list of files to download.. |
| 12:49.59 | rhkfin_ | this list: http://www.opkg.org/list.txt |
| 12:50.13 | Heinervdm | ah ok |
| 12:51.25 | rhkfin_ | billk: don't know about ftp2.input.. |
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| 12:52.22 | billk | man ftp - ascii mode is default. corrupts binary files if you try and use it to transfer them |
| 12:52.46 | rhkfin_ | Hmm.. ok.. So that could be one source of error.. |
| 12:54.43 | Heinervdm | i'm running the script now |
| 12:54.50 | rhkfin_ | Hmm.. I think it's uploading the Packages file that's plain ascii text, not the actual packages (that are just downloaded from the server..) |
| 12:54.55 | Heinervdm | lets see if my Packages.gz is corrupt |
| 12:55.01 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: I'm downloading the files now too.. |
| 12:55.34 | rhkfin_ | ok.. |
| 12:55.48 | rhkfin_ | Hmm.. Packages.gz might corrupt if ascii-uploaded, maybe? |
| 12:56.43 | Heinervdm | yes, if this runs fine then it have to be the upload :) |
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| 12:57.26 | rhkfin_ | right |
| 12:59.54 | rhkfin_ | I get "ar: zomg_0.0.6-r2_armv4t.ipk: File format not recognized |
| 13:00.19 | rhkfin_ | as well as no entry control.tar.gz in archive |
| 13:00.23 | rhkfin_ | tar: ./control.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory |
| 13:00.24 | rhkfin_ | :/ |
| 13:01.22 | rhkfin_ | I know that some packages really don't include the control file (BAD, BAD!) but looks like that something else might be wrong, too..? |
| 13:01.50 | lindi- | rhkfin_: file *ipk |
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| 13:03.13 | rhkfin_ | uh.. some have the correct Debian binary, some empty, some gzip... |
| 13:03.27 | rhkfin_ | I wish there was a way to contact the packagers.. |
| 13:05.01 | Heinervdm | i'm getting these error for almost every package |
| 13:05.02 | rhkfin_ | No wonder many packages fail.. |
| 13:05.06 | rhkfin_ | same here.. |
| 13:06.33 | Fougner | :O |
| 13:06.36 | Fougner | PHP & BASH :D |
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| 13:07.50 | rhkfin_ | 22 out of 93 are other than debian binary.. |
| 13:07.59 | rhkfin_ | Fougner: PLease write a better solution :) |
| 13:08.21 | Fougner | rhkfin_, what about? |
| 13:08.30 | Fougner | I don't know what you want to do :P |
| 13:08.44 | rhkfin_ | create a repository of packages in opkg.org |
| 13:09.00 | rhkfin_ | see http://www.opkg.org/repo.html |
| 13:09.20 | Heinervdm | we should extract the files with opkg |
| 13:09.53 | rhkfin_ | ar should be able to do it as well with no problem, afaik |
| 13:10.00 | rhkfin_ | and it's installed in ~every system |
| 13:10.39 | Fougner | uhm |
| 13:10.47 | Fougner | create a repo |
| 13:10.55 | Fougner | I'm not familiar with this at all |
| 13:11.02 | Fougner | but you're not happy with the php solution? =) |
| 13:15.40 | rhkfin_ | Any idea if opkg can install a gzip package? Is it a ipk without the control file? |
| 13:17.00 | rhkfin_ | voicenote is said to be GZIP but it has the control file and it looks ok.. |
| 13:19.25 | Heinervdm | ar can't extract gzip |
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| 13:19.33 | rhkfin_ | ha |
| 13:19.39 | rhkfin_ | and many files really are empty.. |
| 13:19.45 | Heinervdm | yes |
| 13:19.46 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: you tried? |
| 13:19.50 | Heinervdm | yes |
| 13:20.27 | Heinervdm | ar: zomg_0.0.6-r2_armv4t.ipk: File format not recognized |
| 13:20.41 | rhkfin_ | so extracting files with tar zxf would be more safe, I guess.. |
| 13:21.23 | Heinervdm | tar can't extract ipkg ;) |
| 13:21.54 | rhkfin_ | it can.. |
| 13:22.16 | rhkfin_ | hmm.. at least those told to be gzip.. |
| 13:22.26 | Heinervdm | unp would be the best solution, i guess |
| 13:22.27 | rhkfin_ | hmm.. |
| 13:22.33 | rhkfin_ | unp? |
| 13:22.43 | rhkfin_ | unpackage |
| 13:22.57 | Heinervdm | it's a tool that chooses the right program to extract |
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| 13:23.09 | Heinervdm | on debian: apt-get install unp |
| 13:23.40 | rhkfin_ | ok |
| 13:24.49 | lindi- | Heinervdm: huh? are youn't you supposed to know the format? |
| 13:25.44 | Heinervdm | lindi-: that tool chooses the right tool by mime type, i think |
| 13:26.02 | lindi- | Heinervdm: so it runs file? |
| 13:26.36 | Heinervdm | i don't really know how it works, but it can extract all the files ;) |
| 13:27.15 | DocScrutinizer | wow, use AI if OI (own intelligence) isn't sufficient ;D |
| 13:28.03 | lindi- | it's perl |
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| 13:28.26 | lindi- | Heinervdm: it seems to look at file name |
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| 13:28.49 | Heinervdm | but after that it tries something else |
| 13:28.53 | rhkfin_ | Hmm.. now one should only try to extract the e-mail addresses from the failing packages.. |
| 13:29.01 | Heinervdm | because it does not know ipk and opk |
| 13:29.13 | lindi- | Heinervdm: yes it runs "file" |
| 13:29.19 | lindi- | 15:01:50 < lindi-> rhkfin_: file *ipk |
| 13:29.27 | lindi- | like i suggested 30 minutes ago ;) |
| 13:29.28 | Heinervdm | :) |
| 13:29.51 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: I did |
| 13:30.05 | rhkfin_ | but it doesn't tell me the e-mail addresses :) |
| 13:30.49 | lindi- | rhkfin_: but it should tell you how you can extract it |
| 13:31.09 | Heinervdm | cat control|grep -ve \"/^[:space:]*$/\" >> Packages <- this line is also wrong |
| 13:31.25 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: extract the file, yes |
| 13:31.44 | Heinervdm | it inserts additional newlines |
| 13:31.54 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: wonderful |
| 13:32.03 | lindi- | Heinervdm: what is it trying to do? |
| 13:32.16 | rhkfin_ | I posted the first comments about the packages to community-list, could you please add your comments there, too? |
| 13:32.27 | Heinervdm | pasting the content of the control file into Packages file |
| 13:32.44 | lindi- | rhkfin_: btw, i can't hear the LCD noise with xrandr -o 3 but i hit another problem: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-March/005050.html |
| 13:33.18 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: ha :) |
| 13:35.32 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: works fine for me with the same kerneln @2008.12 |
| 13:35.34 | Heinervdm | this line is better: cat control|grep -v '^$'|grep -ve \"/^[:space:]*$/\" >> Packages |
| 13:35.41 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: post it please? |
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| 13:36.18 | lindi- | Heinervdm: why remove spaces? |
| 13:37.07 | Heinervdm | Isn't the format of Packages a block format? |
| 13:37.18 | lindi- | Heinervdm: block format? |
| 13:37.40 | lindi- | Heinervdm: lines that begin with space are valid lines |
| 13:38.05 | Heinervdm | and a new package begins aber 2 new lines |
| 13:38.07 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: no spaces here: http://www.opkg.org/packages/Packages |
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| 13:39.31 | Heinervdm | i inserted only grep -v '^$'| |
| 13:39.39 | Heinervdm | to remove empty lines |
| 13:39.46 | lindi- | Heinervdm: but why have :space:? |
| 13:39.51 | rhkfin_ | so: how to copy all files recognized as gzip by file to another folder? |
| 13:39.58 | Heinervdm | don't know its the original one |
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| 13:40.11 | rhkfin_ | (to extract the e-mail addresses from data files) |
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| 13:41.03 | lindi- | rhkfin_: for f in *ipk; if [ "`file $f | grep gzip`" != "" ]; then echo mv $f dir; fi; done? |
| 13:42.23 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: grep returns a result code as well ;-) |
| 13:42.45 | rhkfin_ | ./skripti.sh: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `if' |
| 13:43.05 | lindi- | rhkfin_: for f in *ipk; do if [ "`file $f | grep gzip`" != "" ]; then echo mv $f dir; fi; done? |
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| 13:45.03 | rhkfin_ | lindi-: great :) |
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| 13:46.20 | Heinervdm | rhkfin_: in your posting you havn't written something about the missing control.tar.gz in the packages |
| 13:46.29 | rhkfin_ | oops.. |
| 13:49.08 | rhkfin_ | ok, got 4 e-mail addresses of broken packages.. |
| 13:50.28 | rhkfin_ | authors of 8 packages.. 14 left to be contacted... |
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| 13:57.51 | rhkfin_ | that's interesting - gpssight has been removed from opkg.org..? |
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| 14:02.25 | rhkfin_ | POsted this to those four: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-March/043555.html will try to connect some other authors |
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| 14:06.25 | Heinervdm | I've postet a list with the packages without control.tar.gz |
| 14:07.10 | rhkfin_ | great |
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| 14:13.26 | Heinervdm | i tried my generated Packages.gz and it works |
| 14:15.25 | rhkfin_ | ok, need to go. Thanks Heinervdm for this, I hope that in the following week we'll be able to install more packages without opkg segfaulting... |
| 14:16.03 | Heinervdm | hope so too |
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| 14:21.06 | mwester | wonders if it might have been easier to fix opkg. |
| 14:21.12 | Heinervdm | is Andreas Wiener here? |
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| 14:22.54 | SpeedEvil | mwester: of course not. Inventing new perfect incompatible stuff is the ideal! |
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| 15:22.26 | WhiteCat | does anybody have info about Qemu Emulator of Openmoko |
| 15:25.14 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 15:25.38 | WhiteCat | i am having a problem with Qemu Emulator |
| 15:26.26 | WhiteCat | when i run thic command "arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm -M gta01 -m 130 -mtdblock openmoko/openmoko-flash.image -kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin -usb -show-cursor |
| 15:26.57 | WhiteCat | i got one Boot option |
| 15:27.18 | WhiteCat | after that it gives this error |
| 15:27.22 | WhiteCat | NAND read: mtdparts variable not set, see 'help mtdparts' |
| 15:27.22 | WhiteCat | incorrect device type in kernel |
| 15:27.22 | WhiteCat | 'kernel' is not a number |
| 15:27.22 | WhiteCat | Wrong Image Format for bootm command |
| 15:27.22 | WhiteCat | ERROR: can't get kernel image! |
| 15:27.23 | WhiteCat | Press [AUX] to return to boot menu. |
| 15:27.32 | WhiteCat | plz help me |
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| 15:30.37 | WhiteCat | help me regarding Qemu Emulator |
| 15:39.24 | WhiteCat | i m getting "ERROR: can't get kernel image!" at the time of booting in Qemu Emulator .plzz help |
| 15:40.27 | DocScrutinizer | WhiteCat meant: "where does qemu fetch kernel. What do I have to do it finds kernel?" |
| 15:43.16 | bipak_ | any shr testing user here? |
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| 15:43.49 | jonsmith1982 | bipak_, me |
| 15:44.04 | bipak_ | have tried the alarm app? |
| 15:44.18 | bipak_ | shouldn't it make some alarm sound instead of only poping up a window? *g* |
| 15:44.58 | jonsmith1982 | last time i tried it didn't make any sound. haven't looked into it much. |
| 15:45.14 | bipak_ | okay |
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| 15:47.54 | WhiteCat | any helpon Qemu Emulator plzz |
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| 15:51.48 | WhiteCat | i m getting "ERROR: can't get kernel image!" at the time of booting in Qemu Emulator .plzz help |
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| 17:25.04 | Dave | YES |
| 17:25.11 | Dave | That gives me a new game idea... ¬_¬ |
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| 18:28.45 | johnsu01 | hm, I'm having timeouts trying to send sms messages... |
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| 18:31.16 | alphaone | johnsu01: What image, what version of frameworkd, how are you trying to send messages, do you have a log? |
| 18:31.37 | johnsu01 | alphaone: Yeah, just about to pastebin the backtraces |
| 18:31.46 | johnsu01 | alphaone: frameworkd from git up-to-date with master |
| 18:31.55 | alphaone | oh, sounds interesting |
| 18:32.02 | alphaone | What did I break now? |
| 18:34.01 | PaulFert` | alphaone: btw, he's a traceback for you (or probably for mickeyl, but he's away) http://pastebin.com/m6a11dab2 :) |
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| 18:37.07 | alphaone | PaulFert`: Okay, it thinks +CMGW: 9 doesn't belong to the request... |
| 18:37.23 | alphaone | PaulFert`: Can you add this to a bug for ogsmd? |
| 18:38.11 | alphaone | New timeout code doesn't recognize +CMGW as response to AT+CMGW or somthing |
| 18:38.32 | alphaone | I'll try to look at it, but mickey knows that code better |
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| 18:39.16 | johnsu01 | ah, I think that's my error as well |
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| 18:40.16 | johnsu01 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan/Backtraces |
| 18:40.28 | johnsu01 | (I didn't have debugging on when it happened unfortunately) |
| 18:42.56 | johnsu01 | alphaone: that's trying to use StoreMessage and SendStoredMessage |
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| 18:43.51 | alphaone | johnsu01: Can you retry with log_level=DEBUG in ogsmd? |
| 18:43.59 | johnsu01 | alphaone: yeah, doing that |
| 18:44.23 | johnsu01 | the problem is that after restarting I think it works for a while.. |
| 18:44.24 | alphaone | johnsu01: But I suspect you have the same problem PaulFert` has |
| 18:44.30 | alphaone | oh! |
| 18:44.36 | johnsu01 | but I will test that now |
| 18:44.37 | alphaone | really? |
| 18:44.50 | alphaone | thankd |
| 18:44.52 | alphaone | thanks |
| 18:45.09 | alphaone | The log of the successful send would be helpful as well |
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| 18:50.38 | PaulFert` | alphaone: created http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/372 |
| 18:50.49 | alphaone | PaulFert`: Thanks! |
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| 18:52.21 | johnsu01 | alphaone: okay, I lied, it hangs after restart as well |
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| 18:53.02 | alphaone | johnsu01: Good news, actually :-) |
| 18:53.17 | alphaone | I like it when errors are persistent |
| 18:55.50 | johnsu01 | indeed |
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| 18:58.43 | johnsu01 | alphaone: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan/Backtraces#Hanging_while_trying_to_send_SMS |
| 18:58.48 | johnsu01 | with debug on |
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| 19:00.22 | johnsu01 | looks like same as PaulFert`? |
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| 19:07.54 | johnsu01 | PaulFert`, alphaone: I wonder if it is related to the fix for http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/369 |
| 19:08.00 | alphaone | johnsu01: Yeah, please add your trace to #372 |
| 19:08.03 | johnsu01 | because prior to that sms were working for me |
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| 19:08.11 | johnsu01 | (at least with the caveat noted in that ticket) |
| 19:08.33 | alphaone | okay, great hint |
| 19:08.41 | johnsu01 | will add to ticket |
| 19:08.41 | alphaone | Will take a look at it in a little bit |
| 19:08.44 | alphaone | thanks |
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| 19:36.06 | edgar | can anyone recommend a good SIP client for Om 2008.12? |
| 19:37.33 | lindi- | edgar: depends on what the use is |
| 19:37.43 | lindi- | edgar: i don't know any that'd support full SIP |
| 19:41.42 | edgar | lindi-: just a basic SIP client to make non-encryptred calls. |
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| 19:48.17 | johnsu01 | edgar: I have read that people have linphone working, and it's on my list to try, but I haven't yet |
| 19:48.52 | rhkfin_ | esa-petri: welcome to #openmoko-fi |
| 19:50.14 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: I guess we have some packages fixed already in opkg.org.. |
| 19:51.13 | rhkfin_ | Transparen keyboard: http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/ - not bad! |
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| 19:53.35 | edgar | johnsu01: Ok, I will try out linphone if I have some spare time in the nex few days. I will post my results at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Christz . |
| 19:54.22 | rhkfin_ | edgar: please post your experiences to community-list for peole to read |
| 19:55.33 | edgar | rhkfin_: thx for the hint |
| 19:58.25 | rhkfin_ | great |
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| 20:22.58 | tomboy64 | is fso-gpsd accessible via gpsd://localhost? |
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| 20:26.48 | lindi- | tomboy64: netstat -alpn |
| 20:27.00 | Zorkman | anybody using bluez4 and can help me with this error when pairing: http://pastebin.com/m7f825986 |
| 20:27.31 | tomboy64 | lindi-, what's p for? |
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| 20:27.35 | tomboy64 | busybox doesn't support it |
| 20:28.27 | lindi- | tomboy64: pid |
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| 20:55.36 | Inc_Vega | what's up |
| 20:56.22 | fredrin | I'm up, at 17:00 |
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| 21:01.48 | lindi- | larsc: yes, reverting those kernel commits seems to fix the issue! http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2255#comment:3 |
| 21:03.56 | larsc | lindi-: did you test if it also works with reverting only the last commit? |
| 21:04.15 | lindi- | larsc: i'll test that next |
| 21:04.35 | larsc | lindi-: ok thx |
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| 21:07.30 | tomboy64 | is there a tool available with which i can supervise the status of fso-gpsd? |
| 21:07.45 | tomboy64 | e.g. number of satellites, ttff etc. |
| 21:08.45 | zedstar | zorkman: prolly the code u using was written for bluez3 ? i had some issues with bluetooth scanning code when i moved to bluez4 had to rewrite some stuff |
| 21:08.55 | lindi- | tomboy64: why are you using fso-gpsd and not real gpsd? |
| 21:09.29 | tomboy64 | lindi-, because i'm running shr |
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| 21:10.01 | lindi- | tomboy64: and it does not have a package for gps daemon? |
| 21:10.11 | tomboy64 | i have no idea |
| 21:10.33 | tomboy64 | i'm not sure about the difference at all |
| 21:10.56 | tomboy64 | is there a reason i should prefer gpsd over fso-gpsd? |
| 21:11.20 | tomboy64 | i always had the impression, fso-gpsd was the wrapper-script for the successor of gpsd? |
| 21:12.27 | tomboy64 | lindi-, ? |
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| 21:13.29 | lindi- | tomboy64: gpsd has been developed for 10 years? |
| 21:13.41 | lindi- | tomboy64: fso-gpsd is just a wrapper and does not support most of the protocol |
| 21:14.04 | lindi- | tomboy64: it depends on who you ask whether ogpsd is a successor of gpsd :) |
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| 21:14.29 | tomboy64 | hehehe |
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| 21:14.50 | tomboy64 | in fact ... i consider myself an enduser |
| 21:14.53 | tomboy64 | i want to use gps |
| 21:15.00 | tomboy64 | how do i achieve that? :-P |
| 21:15.04 | lindi- | tomboy64: i just find it odd that you are looking for advanced features of gpsd protocol in a wrapper before even having used the real gpsd |
| 21:15.19 | tomboy64 | i have been using it in the openmoko-distro |
| 21:15.34 | tomboy64 | i find the original openmoko distro ugly and unusable |
| 21:15.38 | tomboy64 | i want to use shr |
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| 21:16.19 | lindi- | tomboy64: the arguments are http://gypsy.freedesktop.org/why-not-gpsd.html and http://gpsd.berlios.de/gypsy.html -- except that ogpsd is not gupsy or gpsd. nobody has written such a page for it yet afaik :) |
| 21:16.23 | mac2k | lindi-: i find it odd to install gpsd on shr where ogpsd is preinstalled |
| 21:16.36 | lindi- | mac2k: but what if you want the features? |
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| 21:16.52 | lindi- | mac2k: like dgps? |
| 21:17.04 | mac2k | tomboy64 does not want the features he just wants a fix |
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| 21:17.24 | tomboy64 | hehehe |
| 21:17.34 | tomboy64 | addicted to nmea-data |
| 21:18.30 | tomboy64 | lindi-, features like dgps and agps are nice ... when they work. for now i want to get this thing running with navit. |
| 21:19.05 | avtobiff | is it possible to backup the uboot from flas with dfu-util? i can't find it on backup page on the wiki. |
| 21:19.23 | avtobiff | wait, i got it |
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| 21:19.58 | lindi- | avtobiff: sure |
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| 21:22.15 | mac2k | tomboy64: what's not working with your gps? |
| 21:23.10 | tomboy64 | mac2k, actually i just have the problem that navit doesn't recognize it |
| 21:23.38 | tomboy64 | and now i wanna make sure gps is actually running and data is flowing before i start digging around in navit's config options |
| 21:24.20 | mac2k | tangoGPS is working? |
| 21:24.42 | tomboy64 | heh |
| 21:24.48 | tomboy64 | i dumped it from the image |
| 21:25.00 | avtobiff | lindi-, do you know if #676 or #1843 is still in affect? |
| 21:25.01 | tomboy64 | but yes, that might be a way to check |
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| 21:26.30 | avtobiff | seemed to work ok though |
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| 21:26.48 | lindi- | avtobiff: better use nandread and DFU and compare the results to be sure |
| 21:27.06 | avtobiff | is nandread in debian? |
| 21:27.39 | lindi- | avtobiff: in pkg-fso |
| 21:28.18 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: why do you want to do it in the first place? |
| 21:29.25 | avtobiff | i want to install debian on my freerunner, howto states that if i want to boot off ext2 i have to update u-boot |
| 21:29.38 | avtobiff | otherwise i have to have /boot as vfat |
| 21:30.46 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: so? |
| 21:31.01 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: why do you want to read the u-boot from flash at all? |
| 21:31.11 | avtobiff | PaulFert`, for back-up |
| 21:31.19 | avtobiff | backpup* |
| 21:31.37 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: no need, the binaries are available from the official sources. |
| 21:31.57 | avtobiff | ok then. even the u-boot env? |
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| 21:32.43 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: u-boot env is different. But you will not overwrite your u-boot env by upgrading to the new u-boot version (or qi). |
| 21:33.10 | avtobiff | u-boot env is on a separate mtd partition? |
| 21:33.34 | avtobiff | it is on mtd2 i see now. |
| 21:34.08 | avtobiff | so any good tips before i upgrade u-boot on my freerunner? |
| 21:34.35 | avtobiff | i don't have access to jtag... |
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| 21:35.06 | henk | avtobiff: use qi. works fine with debian |
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| 21:36.07 | avtobiff | henk, but then i am a bit screwed if something doesn't work out because qi doesn't have a boot menu like u-boot right? |
| 21:36.10 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: good tip: read the wiki about NOR, which makes freerunner unbrickable even without jtag. |
| 21:36.31 | avtobiff | i want to be able to switch between flash and sd |
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| 21:36.42 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: Qi has a way to do it |
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| 21:36.54 | avtobiff | oh |
| 21:37.57 | avtobiff | anyway i want to keep u-boot since i maintain uboot-envtools in debian |
| 21:38.27 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: :))) |
| 21:38.53 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: don't be afraid, with NOR u-boot working you can't really screw anything. |
| 21:39.11 | avtobiff | PaulFert`, i can't find it on the wiki |
| 21:39.37 | avtobiff | is it on flashing the neo freerunner section 4? |
| 21:39.43 | avtobiff | booting from nor? |
| 21:40.01 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: just be careful with nandwrite. Issueing flasherase_all before every nandwrite is mandatory! |
| 21:40.10 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: yes, booting from NOR. |
| 21:40.12 | avtobiff | that was the first thing i learned, heh. since the battery can be charged from there |
| 21:40.31 | avtobiff | PaulFert`, i was going to flash with dfu-util |
| 21:40.39 | lindi- | PaulFert`: really? |
| 21:40.53 | avtobiff | if i flash u-boot i thought i could screw up nor |
| 21:40.58 | avtobiff | since u-boot is in nor |
| 21:41.04 | lindi- | PaulFert`: i don't think debian installer uses flasherase_all? |
| 21:41.25 | avtobiff | eeh it is in nand :) |
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| 21:41.55 | PaulFert` | lindi-: then it's doing it wrong :) |
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| 21:42.53 | lindi- | PaulFert`: it might help if nandwrite had manual page ;) |
| 21:43.30 | lindi- | PaulFert`: ah, it does use flash_eraseall |
| 21:43.52 | avtobiff | uhm |
| 21:44.35 | avtobiff | i have u-boot 1.3.2-moko12 on my freerunner but the daily frome yesterday is 1.3.1+gitr... |
| 21:46.02 | avtobiff | can u-boot 1.3.2-moko12 boot from ext2? |
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| 21:48.55 | lindi- | avtobiff: what's the date? |
| 21:49.21 | avtobiff | it doesn't say |
| 21:51.26 | lindi- | avtobiff: make it say :) |
| 21:51.39 | lindi- | avtobiff: sudo strings /dev/mtdblock1 | grep ^U-Boot | head -n1 |
| 21:51.45 | avtobiff | :) |
| 21:52.02 | avtobiff | apr2 2008 |
| 21:52.22 | avtobiff | U-Boot 1.3.2-rc2-dirty-moko12 (Apr 2 2008 - 09:31:05) |
| 21:52.24 | lindi- | avtobiff: sounds too old |
| 21:52.41 | avtobiff | but what's up with the versioning? |
| 21:52.50 | avtobiff | 1.3.1 is newer? |
| 21:52.51 | lindi- | avtobiff: git hash counts |
| 21:53.07 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: what's up with u-boot obsession? Qi is so much better ;) |
| 21:53.23 | lindi- | PaulFert`: it can write and read memory :) |
| 21:53.34 | PaulFert` | lindi-: so can NOR u-boot |
| 21:53.36 | avtobiff | PaulFert`, i want a device that i can test the uboot-envtools package on of course |
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| 21:53.45 | lindi- | PaulFert`: it can read ext2 unlike NOR u-boot :) |
| 21:53.48 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: i understand, but why do you care? |
| 21:53.56 | avtobiff | PaulFert`, about what? |
| 21:54.00 | PaulFert` | lindi-: why don't you upgrade your NOR then? |
| 21:54.06 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: about uboot-envtools |
| 21:54.11 | lindi- | PaulFert`: no debug board |
| 21:54.21 | avtobiff | PaulFert`, because i am the maintainer for it |
| 21:54.22 | PaulFert` | lindi-: i think it's not needed really. Just short one testpoint. |
| 21:55.06 | PaulFert` | avtobiff: ah, i understand. It's not only for freerunner, but also for other devices. Now i see. Sorry for confusion. |
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| 21:55.15 | avtobiff | PaulFert`, np |
| 21:55.18 | lindi- | avtobiff: ah, your realname in /whois was not really helpful :) now i see 'Maintainer: Per Andersson <avtobiff@gmail.com>' |
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| 21:55.31 | badcloud | hey all |
| 21:55.34 | avtobiff | lindi-, :) |
| 21:55.38 | lindi- | PaulFert`: err, i'll rather not short anything :) |
| 21:56.20 | avtobiff | i don't know why it says "haha" |
| 21:56.23 | lindi- | avtobiff: so, it's good that uboot-envtools now finally works |
| 21:56.31 | PaulFert` | lindi-: to me it seems that upgrading u-boot in NOR is safe provided you're 100% sure that NAND bootloader works. |
| 21:56.40 | avtobiff | lindi-, indeed |
| 21:56.47 | lindi- | avtobiff: but would be nice if it could spawn me an editor and let me edit the environment freely |
| 21:57.27 | lindi- | avtobiff: i'm always afraid of forgetting to quote some part when I fw_setenv BLAH 'blah with characters that are tricky for shell' |
| 21:58.00 | avtobiff | yeah |
| 21:58.42 | lindi- | avtobiff: also it would be nice if the order of entries was preserved :) |
| 21:59.21 | avtobiff | puts it in the TODO |
| 22:00.13 | lindi- | avtobiff: but all in all, "editor /boot/grub/menu.lst" style experience would be nice |
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| 22:01.48 | avtobiff | so, i am good with flashing u-boot-gta02v5 with dfu-util? |
| 22:02.25 | lindi- | no idea what that is sorry |
| 22:02.39 | avtobiff | dfu-util? |
| 22:02.49 | lindi- | u-boot-gta02v5 |
| 22:02.59 | avtobiff | it is just a daily u-boot for gta02 |
| 22:03.04 | avtobiff | (aka freerunner) |
| 22:03.27 | lindi- | indeed, i have no idea what the daily u-boot has :) |
| 22:04.39 | avtobiff | so what should i get then? if you think apr 2 2008 is to old to boot ext2 |
| 22:06.22 | avtobiff | hey, it says in the nor menu "Boot from microSD (FAT+ext2)" |
| 22:06.41 | avtobiff | remembers that reading first is a good thing(tm) |
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| 23:10.28 | jbick | does anyone know how to compile the stable kernel branch? I keep getting an error that is caused by this: "arch/arm/mach-s3c2440/built-in.o: In function `s3c2440_fiq_isr':" |
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| 23:57.10 | Dave | nuclear_eclipse: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/4808c32fa0b9a0f21fe3a7e8c1985544.png ;o |
