| 00:00.25 | tomboy64 | shoot |
| 00:00.36 | tomboy64 | google will archive it |
| 00:00.49 | tomboy64 | and the world will still know about it in a week |
| 00:00.54 | jones | smashed the screen on my free runner |
| 00:01.07 | tomboy64 | mhmm |
| 00:01.09 | tomboy64 | that's bad |
| 00:01.12 | jones | yeah |
| 00:01.30 | jones | is there anything I can do |
| 00:01.31 | SpeedEvil | :( |
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| 00:01.48 | SpeedEvil | there was a screen on ebay a week ago |
| 00:02.23 | jones | anyone read anything about this happening before? |
| 00:02.37 | jones | Im sure I was something in the wiki, but i couldnt turn it up |
| 00:02.40 | SpeedEvil | screen smashes? |
| 00:02.49 | SpeedEvil | you can smash most screens |
| 00:03.30 | jones | anyone dealing with such an accident |
| 00:03.48 | SpeedEvil | I'd post on the hardware mailing list. |
| 00:04.21 | SpeedEvil | I'm not aware of any spares program, and I think I would be. |
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| 00:05.30 | jones | i dont really expect one |
| 00:05.57 | SpeedEvil | Problem is that getting parts for a smashed PSP LCD is damn easy |
| 00:06.17 | SpeedEvil | For a FR - you'd have to get one custom made - they aren't floating round the secondary market |
| 00:06.38 | SpeedEvil | (and no, they aren't compatible) |
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| 00:07.40 | anttna | jones: how did it happen? |
| 00:08.38 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r607459401435 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: ogsmd: override autoprefix for +CUSD, which is kinda special |
| 00:08.39 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r9bed3b234f94 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py: ogsmd: fix SMS sending with new parser. Thanks Daniel for spotting! |
| 00:08.40 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r0014180180a3 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: |
| 00:08.40 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: port +CNMA to the new timeout handling |
| 00:08.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: (basically the per-command timeout no longer exists) |
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| 00:09.06 | jones | cycling, chain snapped and i fell on the handle bars, but my freerunner got in the way |
| 00:09.33 | anttna | holy cow |
| 00:10.11 | jones | not the best day |
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| 00:10.36 | anttna | never mind eh? |
| 00:11.34 | anttna | mayeb you'll win the lotto tomorrow |
| 00:11.35 | jones | going to see if its fixable |
| 00:11.54 | anttna | pulster do repalcement screens afaik |
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| 00:13.17 | DocScrutinizer | resellers should be able to get spare parts |
| 00:13.50 | jones | that is not cheap |
| 00:14.08 | DocScrutinizer | afaik OM sends a number of spare with each pack of FR |
| 00:15.49 | jones | but im really happy to see its possible |
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| 00:16.20 | Dave | Hey, with all the brokenmokos around, what do you expect :D |
| 00:16.36 | Dave | that, and joerg and I probably use half of them since we're so good at breaking things :P |
| 00:16.49 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 00:16.54 | Dave | :) |
| 00:17.14 | Dave | I half a cup full of caps here on my desk :P |
| 00:17.19 | Dave | s/half/have/ |
| 00:17.44 | SpeedEvil | wishes for something simple like an openmoko ebay store with all the crap in. |
| 00:18.06 | Dave | yeah, that'd be sweet, so long as it wasn't overpriced |
| 00:18.33 | Dave | Honestly, I see a bigger market for OM spare parts than Neo's :p |
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| 00:22.43 | anttna | I suppose considering their time and return postage eur89 is about right? |
| 00:24.49 | jones | return postage? |
| 00:26.37 | jones | oh, I didnt bother dropping that into a translator just thought it was for the screen |
| 00:27.02 | anttna | http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.html?openmoko.htm |
| 00:27.29 | anttna | where are you? |
| 00:27.41 | anttna | jones: where are you? |
| 00:27.41 | jones | scotland |
| 00:28.01 | anttna | I'm in North ireland btw |
| 00:28.33 | jones | North ireland? not Northen Ireland? |
| 00:29.03 | anttna | 89.00 EUR=78.9350 GBP |
| 00:29.07 | jones | yeah |
| 00:29.19 | anttna | yeah northern ireland |
| 00:29.28 | Dave | For what!? |
| 00:29.34 | jones | Im gonna have to take a good look around at pricings |
| 00:29.44 | jones | screen replacement |
| 00:29.51 | Dave | Oh! |
| 00:29.53 | Dave | :) |
| 00:30.00 | Dave | If the shipping was free, that'd be sweet |
| 00:30.06 | jones | yeah |
| 00:30.15 | Dave | or reasonably cheap |
| 00:30.23 | jones | anyway Im gonna have to hit the sack early flight tomorrow |
| 00:30.28 | Dave | I know that shipping from EU to US suck :D |
| 00:30.28 | jones | thanks for the help |
| 00:30.34 | Dave | Good luck! :) |
| 00:30.44 | anttna | jones: remember what Gordon says spend spend spend :) |
| 00:34.47 | SpeedEvil | http://www.fukung.net/v/9966/df1492010bd8a0eb6cb0cf21c6899112.gif Daves status. |
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| 00:35.24 | Dave | :O |
| 00:36.34 | Dave | shit is weak yo |
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| 00:44.59 | DocScrutinizer | Dave: pulster said 89eur is incl shipping |
| 00:50.33 | anttna | bye |
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| 00:55.31 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03alain2210 07framework * rb445a328b91c 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/freescale_neptune/mediator.py: |
| 00:55.32 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: [FREESCALE NEPTUNE] add customized versions of DeviceSetAntennaPower and SimGetAuthStatus to cope with |
| 00:55.32 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: the modem's GSM 07.07 violations. |
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| 01:41.25 | SpeedEvil | http://englishrussia.com/?p=1312 |
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| 02:59.56 | Dave | Hmm... http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/03/nokia-lte-slide.jpg |
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| 03:20.11 | Hydrant | does anyone have gprs working with their neo ? |
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| 03:52.55 | slaxxin | http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended |
| 03:53.00 | slaxxin | ouch |
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| 03:58.02 | Dave | haha |
| 03:58.12 | Dave | as if we didn't see THAT one coming.... ¬_¬ |
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| 03:59.45 | slaxxin | dropped like a hot potato |
| 04:00.00 | slaxxin | why did that happen? |
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| 04:02.40 | Dave | Virus. |
| 04:02.58 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:03.56 | Dave | Hey slaxin |
| 04:04.02 | Dave | What's hapin |
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| 04:09.41 | slaxxin | wheres potter? |
| 04:11.20 | mwester | Australia |
| 04:12.28 | Dave | dead? |
| 04:12.36 | Dave | discontinued, rather :D |
| 04:12.49 | Dave | burn! |
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| 04:20.37 | Dave | Anyhoo, phones still suck, once again. |
| 04:20.41 | Dave | I'm done for this evening. |
| 04:20.50 | CVirus | lulz |
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| 04:35.37 | slaxxin | qt extended-final anybody |
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| 04:39.09 | slaxxin | rooly here it is |
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| 04:43.09 | Dave | moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 05:03.54 | slaxxin | seems fast after using shr |
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| 07:02.25 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 07:04.24 | tiger2wander | Hi all, anyone know how to build openmoko for Blue Angel device? |
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| 10:33.12 | husku | märf. updates "broke" my "desktop" <-- im missing all the icons |
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| 10:40.56 | rhkfin_ | Community news: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/February_20%2C_2009 |
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| 11:10.10 | husku | well, the launcher does not show icons, only if i choose "slider" but thats not really usable |
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| 11:13.58 | rhkfin_ | ha, husku, guessed where you're from because of using ä in your märf :) You know about #openmoko-fi, too? |
| 11:14.22 | husku | rhkfin_: that channel was news to me :) |
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| 12:10.21 | tomboy64 | is there a way i can "preload" an area from openstreetmaps.org for tangogps? |
| 12:10.31 | tomboy64 | without tangogps needing to re-download stuff? |
| 12:10.50 | tomboy64 | (apart from just scrolling tangogps and waiting ... |
| 12:11.30 | max_posedon | click->download map->select level of maps -> ok |
| 12:11.57 | Gras | he does anyone here have experiance with android on the neo freerunner? |
| 12:12.08 | SpeedEvil | set the maps directory to /media/card/maps |
| 12:12.09 | SpeedEvil | forex |
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| 12:19.22 | devilshawk | Hello! Short question: Anyone else having problems with the new efl release on shr-unstable? my desktop icons disappeared |
| 12:19.55 | rhkfin_ | tomboy64: linking /home/root/Maps to /media/card/maps is a good idea.. |
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| 12:20.11 | rhkfin_ | devilshawk: husku |
| 12:20.35 | tomboy64 | rhkfin_, and then? |
| 12:21.02 | tomboy64 | can i simply dump stuff from osm.org there? |
| 12:21.08 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 12:21.09 | SpeedEvil | it sticks |
| 12:21.14 | tomboy64 | cute |
| 12:21.17 | tomboy64 | thanks |
| 12:21.25 | SpeedEvil | I recommend |
| 12:21.29 | SpeedEvil | zoom out to world view |
| 12:21.46 | SpeedEvil | then download 5 levels or so |
| 12:22.00 | SpeedEvil | then zoom into the country you're interested in, and download another 5 levels |
| 12:22.24 | rhkfin_ | and then in a month try yaouh |
| 12:22.24 | SpeedEvil | and then for the areas you want, download to zoom 12 or so |
| 12:22.24 | rhkfin_ | to update the tiles |
| 12:22.46 | tomboy64 | SpeedEvil, that i wanted to avoid |
| 12:22.56 | tomboy64 | can't i just dump raw data from osm for an area? |
| 12:23.16 | rhkfin_ | tomboy64: no, can't.. |
| 12:23.27 | rhkfin_ | tango uses .png image files |
| 12:23.28 | tomboy64 | heh |
| 12:23.32 | tomboy64 | wtf? |
| 12:23.35 | rhkfin_ | yep |
| 12:23.42 | tomboy64 | hah |
| 12:23.45 | tomboy64 | talk bout ... |
| 12:23.48 | rhkfin_ | navit uses vector map (though the format is not .osm) |
| 12:23.56 | tomboy64 | yes |
| 12:24.18 | tomboy64 | does shr have a navit package by now? |
| 12:24.31 | rhkfin_ | That's why people have 300 000 png files on their cards.. |
| 12:24.37 | rhkfin_ | would guess so? |
| 12:24.44 | tomboy64 | mhmm let's see |
| 12:24.51 | rhkfin_ | Try the default navit from navir repositories, updated daily |
| 12:25.03 | rhkfin_ | google for navit ipk |
| 12:25.09 | tomboy64 | k |
| 12:25.10 | tomboy64 | thx |
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| 12:26.25 | devilshawk | anyone here using latest shr-unstable? |
| 12:27.01 | tomboy64 | using testing here |
| 12:27.07 | tomboy64 | just flashed it on |
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| 12:28.05 | devilshawk | hmm... |
| 12:28.35 | devilshawk | something borked my ewm settings, no desktop icons anymore |
| 12:31.13 | devilshawk | rhkfin_: husku? |
| 12:33.01 | billk | devilshawk: post a few days ago when shr-testing was released said testing was the better bet |
| 12:33.09 | billk | as unstable was going to get |
| 12:33.24 | billk | major changes including some that would kill |
| 12:33.30 | billk | the display for awhile. |
| 12:34.36 | devilshawk | billk: oh i missed that one! have been quite happy with unstable for the last month or so. is opkg able to downgrade to testing if i change the feeds? |
| 12:34.45 | zedstar | anyone happen to know about bluez 4 changes and what it breaks in code based on bluez 3 in terms of device discovery? |
| 12:35.07 | billk | devilshawk: you have backups right :) |
| 12:35.50 | devilshawk | billk: backups?? what should there be to backup? |
| 12:35.50 | billk | I dont think opkg is that good at downgrading, but there is probably only a few packages to identify if you can. |
| 12:36.19 | devilshawk | billk: all data is on a seperate partition |
| 12:36.21 | billk | The OS, your data, ... |
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| 12:37.05 | billk | I backup an image so I can test /break things and flash back at will. |
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| 12:38.20 | devilshawk | billk: yeah, i will just install something else on a spare part and hope the fix it some day! :) |
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| 12:44.24 | billk | hdevilshawk: Took awhile to find the name - look into neotool (ttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool) |
| 12:44.49 | billk | to build a flashable imageof a working system as a backup - very useful |
| 12:45.48 | devilshawk | billk: i could just rsync to a seperate partition for backups, dont have the os in flash but lets see how downgrading works out |
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| 12:46.54 | billk | devilshawk: good luck :) |
| 12:47.13 | devilshawk | billk: thanks! ;) |
| 12:48.54 | billk | Actually, that brings up somethings about opkg thats always bothered me - it doesnt seem to keep a log of actions - gentoo's emerge does and its really |
| 12:49.14 | billk | handy being able to go back and see what changed when - miss it |
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| 12:53.36 | tomboy64 | billk, that's why gentoo's being ported ;) |
| 12:54.49 | th0br0 | hey, I just upgraded shr-testing; but now I no longer have any icons on the desktop! how to solve this? (the files in /usr/share/applications are still present |
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| 13:05.12 | devilshawk | th0br0: known problem, no known fix yet |
| 13:05.17 | th0br0 | crap ok |
| 13:05.35 | th0br0 | what causes it |
| 13:06.58 | devilshawk | th0br0: unstable experimenting with new enlightenment version, i have been told there was a warning somewhere on the mailinglist, that this is going to happen |
| 13:07.13 | th0br0 | ah ok :/ thanks. |
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| 13:07.40 | devilshawk | th0br0: missed it too! :) |
| 13:07.56 | th0br0 | i -- personally -- am too lazy to read mailing lists most of the time :D |
| 13:08.02 | th0br0 | so I didn#t really miss it |
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| 13:08.17 | th0br0 | but thanks anyway ;) |
| 13:08.25 | th0br0 | as long as incoming calls still work... |
| 13:08.46 | devilshawk | th0br0: but its probably this little section from the x.log thats responsible: |
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| 13:09.45 | devilshawk | "efreet_desktop_new error: no Desktop Entry section" |
| 13:09.45 | devilshawk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.40 | th0br0 | interesting... ok. |
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| 13:17.11 | billk | devilshawk/th0br0: extracted from email Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:07:54 +0100 (Mon, 00:07 WST) |
| 13:17.14 | billk | The other thing going to happen is unstable being rebased on to a newer EFL (enlightenment) |
| 13:17.14 | billk | revision. This is going to cause lots of things to break. Don't expect to be able to write |
| 13:17.14 | billk | SMS or edit contacts... expect it to segfault a lot instead - you have been warned ;) |
| 13:17.26 | th0br0 | thanks :) |
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| 14:13.35 | devilshawk | so its actually possible to revert to testing without killing anything from the borked unstable. you just have to make sure that everything efl related is gone |
| 14:14.08 | devilshawk | opkg -recursive remove is your friend |
| 14:14.31 | devilshawk | change feeds to testing and reinstall |
| 14:15.39 | devilshawk | all the enlightenment thingies are easy to discern by the common revision tag |
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| 14:24.38 | Heinervdm | How can i get the launcher icons back on SHR unstable, they are gone since opkg upgrade yesterday |
| 14:26.08 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: 15:17 < billk> devilshawk/th0br0: extracted from email Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:07:54 +0100 (Mon, 00:07 WST) |
| 14:26.11 | rhkfin_ | 15:17 < billk> The other thing going to happen is unstable being rebased on to a newer EFL (enlightenment) |
| 14:26.15 | rhkfin_ | 15:17 < billk> revision. This is going to cause lots of things to break. Don't expect to be able to write |
| 14:26.18 | rhkfin_ | 15:17 < billk> SMS or edit contacts... expect it to segfault a lot instead - you have been warned ;) |
| 14:26.23 | th0br0 | :D |
| 14:26.26 | devilshawk | Heinervdm: known problem, no known fix |
| 14:26.45 | rhkfin_ | Heinervdm: the downside of upgrading unstable :) Things can break... |
| 14:26.52 | devilshawk | Heinervdm: but you can revert to testing |
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| 14:28.35 | Heinervdm | ok, if it's a kown problem than it's ok |
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| 14:51.09 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r975a2177e0db 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:51.09 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: query our network database if the provider's name is not known. This can happen for new providers and |
| 14:51.09 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: old modems (guess what... :). Fixes FSO #355 and OM #2241. |
| 14:51.09 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: Fixed also some bugs in querying the network database introduced by the last format revamp. |
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| 15:23.16 | PBeck | ahoi! |
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| 15:38.57 | rhkfin_ | miten .ipk -paketin saa auki? |
| 15:41.01 | rhkfin_ | oops.. meant 'how do I open a .ipk to see the files'? |
| 15:41.34 | Bane^ | mä olen avannu gnomen file-rollerilla ;) |
| 15:42.04 | rhkfin_ | ;) |
| 15:42.35 | rhkfin_ | ah, it's tar.gz. Thanks :) |
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| 16:09.36 | spaetz | rhkfin_: AFAIK "ar" works |
| 16:10.24 | spaetz | it's not tar.gz, I think |
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| 16:14.01 | mwester | The ipk format is an "ar" archive, which contains (among other things) a couple of tar.gz files for control and data info. |
| 16:14.54 | henk | dpkg for the poor and homele^W^W^W^Wless powerful machines |
| 16:16.40 | Wonka | ipks seem to be valid deb files, btw... |
| 16:16.51 | Wonka | at least, dpkg installs them. |
| 16:17.40 | henk | i remember someone having a .deb file thinking the same... but it was some strange nokia nWhatever package format. not dpkg... |
| 16:17.53 | henk | similar though. but it fscked his dpkg pretty good... |
| 16:18.44 | mjr | yeah ipkgs are derived from deb |
| 16:18.49 | mjr | and deb is ar |
| 16:19.08 | rhkfin_ | hmm.. I wonder if that's the reason why installing some packages fail.. hmph.. |
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| 16:54.47 | SM2k | DocScrutinizer: this AGPS fix you mentioned, is it available anywhere? |
| 16:55.36 | SM2k | I know your information is secondhand, but it's better than mine. :-) |
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| 16:55.46 | DocScrutinizer | dunno exactly. seems I remember some checkin. not sure though |
| 16:56.36 | SM2k | I would assume that some relevant change would be reflected somewhere in: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable/feeds/ right? |
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| 16:57.57 | DocScrutinizer | i'm trying to find out |
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| 17:33.10 | PaulFertser | SM2k: if you were talking about fix to FSO to make uploading ephemeris work, then it's available in FSO git. |
| 17:33.35 | SM2k | that's what I was looking for, yes |
| 17:34.41 | SM2k | do you know which project I'm looking for? |
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| 17:47.58 | PaulFertser | SM2k: sure, it's in frameworkd |
| 17:48.08 | SM2k | thanks |
| 17:48.44 | DocScrutinizer | :) |
| 17:49.51 | DocScrutinizer | hi Paul! :) |
| 17:52.39 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: Hi Joerg :) |
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| 18:00.17 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: do you think it's worth to answer the weird ideas to fix "no bass" issue in [community]? |
| 18:00.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * r0d1ce53f338e 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py: |
| 18:00.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Decode userdata even if we encounter errors |
| 18:00.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: This will retry to decode UCS-2 userdata with the replace policy if |
| 18:00.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: decoding with strict didn't work. The errors property will still have |
| 18:00.44 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: "Userdata corrupt" set, but the userdata will actually contain whatever |
| 18:00.46 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: we were able to decode. Problematic characters are replaced by the |
| 18:00.48 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: unicode replace character (\ufffd). Fixes FSO #291. |
| 18:02.17 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: Looks like that, community needs an advice of knowledgeable EE. I'm not sure how many people will benefit from having a SOP for bass fix though. |
| 18:02.43 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: you know I'd risk another dispute with some other repliant |
| 18:03.40 | DocScrutinizer | I really like to avoid any starting point for such dispute |
| 18:03.43 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: Will it help if you will not touch software stuff and give answer from a purely hardware POI? |
| 18:04.05 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, not really |
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| 18:05.18 | DocScrutinizer | maybe it helps to place my answer way up in thread so it's clear I didn't answer to *him* |
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| 18:06.56 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: yes, answer to the end-user directly and don't CC him :) But really, a good technical advice is needed wrt bass and unfortunately i'm not knowledgeable enough to give it myself. (weird ways == using one cap for both channels) this one was already answered btw. |
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| 18:07.35 | DocScrutinizer | yup, but not comprehensively |
| 18:07.59 | PaulFertser | BTW, i didn't think about 1206 caps back then so i'm not sure it won't fit under the can. |
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| 18:08.50 | DocScrutinizer | best technical advice is to place two decent 100u next to AUX or BT-ant |
| 18:10.28 | DocScrutinizer | another idea was to prepare a flat array of small Cs and place this inide can, "1.floor" |
| 18:11.45 | PaulFertser | I haven't verified yet if my attempt at rework somehow influences wifi btw :( |
| 18:12.21 | PaulFertser | But what about 1206 100uF caps, is it really impossible to find a good place inside the can? |
| 18:12.23 | DocScrutinizer | for the hardcore modders though: throw out useless amp chip and wire hs-jack directly to 8753 via two blackgates 100u |
| 18:12.41 | DocScrutinizer | s/wifi/bt/ |
| 18:13.11 | DocScrutinizer | (find place) tough to impossible |
| 18:15.23 | PaulFertser | (blackgates) the guys doing that were using wm89xx codecs, do you think 8753 is as good? |
| 18:16.48 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 18:17.59 | DocScrutinizer | the amp was a must have for stereo gta01. it's plain silly for mono gta02 |
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| 18:18.39 | max_posedon | qemu-0.10.0 released, is any hope that qemu-neo1973 will be rebased and gta01/gta02 will goes to upstream? |
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| 18:25.36 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: another good place for decent decoupling Cs is near bupbat. you even have a hole in PCB to route the wires, next to aux switch and gmeter |
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| 18:29.25 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: Probably it'll be harder to properly shield? |
| 18:30.12 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: and i'm not sure 2 big tantalum caps will fit there... |
| 18:30.24 | DocScrutinizer | maybe find some very thin 2wire+shield cable like occasionally found in turntable levers |
| 18:30.54 | DocScrutinizer | (fit)easily |
| 18:31.23 | DocScrutinizer | you got "headroom (1.floor)" there as well |
| 18:32.27 | PaulFertser | Hm, using superglue for my caps wasn't the best idea, i'm not sure i'll be able to remove them for testing... |
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| 18:32.43 | DocScrutinizer | (shielded wires) just because they cross some clocked areas inside can |
| 18:33.10 | PaulFertser | But the caps themselves can pickup GSM, i'm afraid. |
| 18:33.43 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 18:34.01 | PaulFertser | Easily fit, but how to properly secure them? Glue on top of backup bat? |
| 18:34.04 | DocScrutinizer | you need to cover them with some copper sticky |
| 18:34.43 | DocScrutinizer | (fix) yup, hotglue, or similar |
| 18:37.32 | DocScrutinizer | also don't forget a ferrite bead next to the hole |
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| 18:38.36 | PaulFertser | (ferrite) is it really needed if the caps and wires are shielded? |
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| 18:39.30 | DocScrutinizer | yup, otherwise GSM creeps in along the wire shield and spreads everywhere once it's inside can |
| 18:40.57 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: no, i mean i placed the caps and the wires on top of the can, if i shield the caps and wires together, will it suffice? |
| 18:40.59 | DocScrutinizer | much the same way it's happening now with micbias trace from jk4401:4, just worse |
| 18:41.26 | DocScrutinizer | ahh, |
| 18:42.43 | DocScrutinizer | if you placed wires (short distance) completely under same shield like Cs, and the additional shield is tightly coupled to can, that should suffice |
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| 18:44.51 | DocScrutinizer | be aware though it's not sufficient to contact shield sticky to can at one point. You'd create an antenna this way. You need to "close the bag" all the way around the Cs |
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| 19:16.08 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: tried to apply a piece of foil (from a candy, with paper on the other side) to my caps in a lazy-ass way (placed it over there trying to make it at least partially connect to the can and assembled the case). Now when calling my phone i can hear GSM interference from the main speaker only if i hold it near the ear. I plugged in the headphones and i can hear the other side of gsm conversation without any buzz at all. |
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| 19:17.59 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, ok. EMI isn't a science. You might get away with not shielding anything at all. Depends on so many factors |
| 19:18.45 | DocScrutinizer | but very likely you'll find your candy paper isn't worth much anyway ;-) |
| 19:19.08 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: no without shielding i hear every gsm event on internal speaker and buzz on headphones :) BTW, using 1800 (?) arcfn 520, rxlev 28-31, txlev 1. |
| 19:19.25 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: good for monitoring GPRS actually |
| 19:19.39 | PaulFertser | :) |
| 19:20.00 | PaulFertser | Candy paper is great! :p |
| 19:20.06 | DocScrutinizer | :D |
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| 19:21.19 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: do you think i should still try to unglue my caps to check for WiFi range (cyanoacrylate), if yes, how? :) |
| 19:21.40 | DocScrutinizer | don't miss on buying some cartons of this candy right now, to sell them one by one to other modders ;-) Otherwise you may find you can't get this very special particular paper anymore eventually |
| 19:22.04 | DocScrutinizer | s/wifi/bt/ |
| 19:22.21 | DocScrutinizer | no I'd not recommend to do this |
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| 19:22.57 | PaulFertser | So this is BT after all? :) |
| 19:23.02 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 19:23.32 | PaulFertser | The big green box? |
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| 19:23.42 | PaulFertser | :) |
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| 19:24.33 | DocScrutinizer | wifi is the "blue box" |
| 19:25.40 | PaulFertser | I see, you mislead me that time :) What is the "normal" range for FR's BT? Can i just somehow check for no regressions with this "rework"? |
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| 19:27.05 | DocScrutinizer | hm, difficult questions both |
| 19:28.43 | DocScrutinizer | (that time) severe flu back then iirc. sorry |
| 19:29.16 | DocScrutinizer | (check) no idea atm |
| 19:32.20 | PaulFertser | (flu) no problem, i'm glad you're well now. |
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| 19:35.41 | DocScrutinizer | well, not entirely yet. half germany infects one onother every 2 weeks this year :-/ |
| 19:36.08 | PaulFertser | I thought flu doesn't work like that, once you're over it, you're immune to it, no? |
| 19:36.31 | tomboy64 | hmmmm |
| 19:36.53 | DocScrutinizer | well probably a fast mutating one this time. no idea |
| 19:37.41 | DocScrutinizer | or it hides for some days, then starts over again to make you feel sick once more |
| 19:38.09 | PaulFertser | Yeah, viruses are nasty |
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| 19:38.56 | DocScrutinizer | well, need some dinner. cya |
| 19:39.06 | PaulFertser | Thanks for advice again :) |
| 19:39.19 | DocScrutinizer | np. was a pleasure |
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| 19:43.08 | baba_melone | Hi |
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| 19:43.24 | baba_melone | is there any expert on Xorg keycodes |
| 19:43.43 | baba_melone | I want to control some pc games with the neo |
| 19:44.42 | baba_melone | but the keycodes seem to be interpreted falsely |
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| 20:15.12 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rccd9b34456e0 10/framework/config.py: config: dump milliseconds also to find out where our time gets spent |
| 20:15.24 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r7fcaf23aab35 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/modem.py: |
| 20:15.24 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO] fix power control (only significant when using fso-abyss, otherwise gsm0710muxd will |
| 20:15.24 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: handle that) |
| 20:15.25 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r9532f5e5c3f7 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/cinterion_mc75/modem.py: |
| 20:15.28 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: [CINTERION MC75] add power control and request paths from fso-abyss |
| 20:15.30 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: NOTE: On mc75, we always use fso-abyss. There's no configuration option. |
| 20:17.24 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03Nytowl * r4953 10/trunk/src/target/audio/om-3d7k/ (9 files): Add dummy alsa scenario files for 3d7k |
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| 20:21.46 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r5131b67a20c8 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: |
| 20:21.46 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: DeviceGetInfo: According to GSM 07.07, it's legal to not answer quoting the prefixes for |
| 20:21.46 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: these four informational requests, hence we allow all prefixes. |
| 20:21.46 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: NOTE: Yes, this opens a slight possibility of unsolicited creeping unnoticed into. |
| 20:21.49 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: To fix this properly, we would need to enhance the prefixmap to also specify |
| 20:21.51 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: something like: [ "+CGMR", "+CGMM", "+CGMI", "+CGSN", "plaintext" ], with "plaintext" being |
| 20:21.55 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: everything else that does _not_ look like a response. |
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| 21:01.51 | tomboy64 | ip addr list usb0 | awk 'BEGIN { FS="[ /]+" } /inet / { print $3 }' gives out the ip for dropbear to listen on |
| 21:02.08 | tomboy64 | what would i have to change for dropbear also to listen on wifi connections? |
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| 21:02.36 | tomboy64 | ah, nvm |
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| 21:12.19 | SM2k | that's so strange. apparently skype has some sort of allergic reaction to the openmoko. it logs out and back in whenever I plug in the phone. |
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| 21:15.35 | Hopscotch | SM2k: this is because of the ethernet-over-usb-interface that appears in your system |
| 21:16.32 | SM2k | Hopscotch: but why does the appearance of another network interface bother it so much? 8-) |
| 21:18.08 | Hopscotch | perhaps there is a dhcp-server on your phone and the pc resets its default route to usb? |
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| 21:21.34 | PaulFertser | _291974078: á, ÐÏÎÑÔÎÏ. ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, îÉËÏÌÑ :) îÕ ÔÁË ÄÅÌÁ, ÐÏ-ÒÁÚÎÏÍÕ. ÷ÏÔ × ÓÌÅÄ. ÐÑÔÎÉÃÕ "ÐÏ×ÅÄÕ" Ó×ÏÉÈ ÓÔÕÄÅÎÔÏ× × ÐÏÌÉÔÅÈÎÉÞÅÓËÉÊ ÍÕÚÅÊ. |
| 21:22.15 | mwester | Can I quote you on that, PaulFertser ? |
| 21:23.26 | johnsu01 | NO CARRIER |
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| 21:23.55 | tomboy64 | is there a way to make opkg autoclean packages that were installed as a dependency? |
| 21:24.12 | PaulFertser | mwester: Hm, i'm sorry i'm spamming the channel again. But feel free to quote, this should make me a good PR, because it translates as "i'm going to go with my students to the Polytechnic Museum next friday" ;) |
| 21:24.17 | tomboy64 | or do i always have to specify "-autoremove" when "remove"ing a package? |
| 21:25.35 | mwester | PaulFertser: Well, enjoy the trip! But it looks like entirely too many vowels for that! |
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| 21:26.08 | Digital_Pioneer | Yo, what's the CLI command to suspend the FR? |
| 21:26.13 | mwester | apm -s |
| 21:26.39 | Digital_Pioneer | Cool, thanks. :) |
| 21:27.10 | Digital_Pioneer | I have SHR-unstable, and aside from the icons all disappearing, the menu that comes up when I hit the power button has greyed out everything except lock, which doesn't work anyways. |
| 21:27.26 | Digital_Pioneer | This happened after my last upgrade. |
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| 21:27.57 | PaulFertser | mwester: I've omitted something like "Yes, i understand. Hi, Kolya, i'm fine thanks." from translation because it obviously doesn't have any meaning here :) Russian is not like japanese (remember "Lost in Translation"?) :) |
| 21:28.01 | Digital_Pioneer | So I'm eagerly anticipating an update that fixes all this... :P |
| 21:28.59 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: unstable is back to its normal state: being unstable ;) |
| 21:29.12 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheheh |
| 21:29.21 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah, but it kicks the crap out of testing. |
| 21:31.04 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: (all icons disappeared) somebody's mentioned that after E update some menu file was missing and after you get it back, everything's fine again. |
| 21:33.02 | Digital_Pioneer | PaulFertser: I don't suppose you know by any chance which it is and how to get it back do you? :P |
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| 21:33.20 | Digital_Pioneer | The slider interface is a nightmare. |
| 21:33.54 | Digital_Pioneer | Remoko quit working too, says it can't find module remoko.remoko_server, though /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/remoko/remoko_server.py{,c} exist... :\ |
| 21:34.18 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: my best experience with E was on the friend's iPAQ, as Debian doesn't have it packaged in a sane way yet :) so, i don't know. Ask dos1 or mrmoku about it :) Or probably someone's even posted an answer to some mailing list... |
| 21:35.48 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: or you can compare E packages contents from testing with yours. |
| 21:36.24 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: i'm asking dos1 for you atm. |
| 21:36.36 | Digital_Pioneer | Cool, thanks. :) |
| 21:36.48 | Digital_Pioneer | I haven't seen a real solution on the community mailing list... |
| 21:37.16 | Digital_Pioneer | Just to use slider icons. Bleh. |
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| 21:42.52 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rc43118267096 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (gsm/channel.py modems/abstract/mediator.py): ogsmd: split DeviceGetFeatures() into individual commands, since not all are always supported |
| 21:45.59 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: dos1 doesn't know, says it's probably upstream problem. But if i were you, i'd still try to compare shr-testing and shr-unstable packages contents. |
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| 21:46.40 | ColdFyre | no icons at all on the home screen in the SHR from mar 5? |
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| 21:47.30 | Dave | smells like fail |
| 21:48.44 | gislan_ | silly question: there's "university program" page on wiki with list of projects, but I can't find any explanation what this "university program" is. Can anyone enlighten me? :) |
| 21:49.15 | tomboy64 | wow! |
| 21:49.25 | tomboy64 | it's incredible how unusable midori is -.- |
| 21:51.21 | ColdFyre | k, with SHR, i can RECEIVE calls/msgs(something comes up), but no way to send |
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| 21:55.21 | tomboy64 | ColdFyre, works fine with me |
| 21:55.35 | tomboy64 | ColdFyre, don't use unstable; it's broken. |
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| 21:56.24 | tomboy64 | gislan_, the university program is some kind of rebate-program for big (>10) orders of freerunners for students |
| 21:56.36 | tomboy64 | gislan_, iirc ... |
| 21:58.12 | gislan_ | tomboy64: ah, thanks |
| 21:58.58 | gislan_ | btw any luck with running OM on htc g1? |
| 22:00.43 | tomboy64 | no idea |
| 22:01.57 | baba_melone_ | I did it |
| 22:02.15 | baba_melone_ | I finally did play tux racer with the accelerometers |
| 22:02.25 | baba_melone_ | its awesome |
| 22:03.29 | baba_melone_ | will send a video tomorrow on youtube |
| 22:03.58 | max_posedon | is it possible without 3d acceleration on neo? |
| 22:04.19 | max_posedon | e.g. don't it very slow? |
| 22:05.52 | baba_melone_ | no |
| 22:06.01 | baba_melone_ | tuxracer runs on my notebook |
| 22:06.10 | baba_melone_ | the neo works as an input device |
| 22:06.27 | baba_melone_ | would be too slow on the neo, youre right |
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| 22:27.09 | Digital_Pioneer | PaulFertser: Is there any easy way to do that? :P |
| 22:27.37 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: i don't know, looks like it's not the problem anyway. So just wait for the SHR devs to solve it. |
| 22:27.48 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheh, fair enough. :P |
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| 22:41.45 | badcloud | has anyone managed to usb ssh using openwrt? |
| 22:42.35 | badcloud | I installed usbnet and still usb0 isn't showing up |
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| 23:06.07 | Digital_Pioneer | Ack! The suspend button died on my Fr, so I use `apm -s` but as soon as it's suspended, it wakes up again. |
| 23:06.12 | Digital_Pioneer | How do I prevent this? |
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| 23:07.22 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: apm -s is not exactly correct given you're using GSM |
| 23:07.37 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: you better issue the suspend request via mdbus |
| 23:07.56 | Digital_Pioneer | And how do you go about doing that? :\ |
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| 23:12.28 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.Suspend obviously. |
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| 23:12.55 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: you can explore many FSO calls with mdbus -s |
| 23:13.16 | Digital_Pioneer | PaulFertser: Oh, yes, obviously. ;P |
| 23:14.51 | Digital_Pioneer | Ahh, good. :) |
| 23:15.57 | Digital_Pioneer | Well, in the absence of any useable way to run programs without SSH... |
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| 23:16.15 | Digital_Pioneer | writes script "while true; do openmoko-dialer; done;" and runs it in background. |
| 23:16.34 | Digital_Pioneer | My phone is... ONLY.... A phone for now. :\ |
| 23:17.18 | PaulFertser | Digital_Pioneer: what's the problem with SSH? |
| 23:17.48 | Digital_Pioneer | PaulFertser: Ehh, nothing, except I don't ALWAYS have my laptop and mini-USB cable just sitting around... I'm weird, I know. |
| 23:17.58 | PaulFertser | :))) |
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| 23:21.58 | badcloud | finally got debian on uSD but blast it, can't ssh to it |
| 23:22.10 | Digital_Pioneer | LOL |
| 23:23.17 | badcloud | glad to entertain |
| 23:25.57 | Dave | badcloud! |
| 23:25.59 | tomboy64 | :-D |
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| 23:27.02 | badcloud | Daveo |
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| 23:27.41 | badcloud | spare a minute to help? |
| 23:28.02 | Dave | With what? |
| 23:28.13 | badcloud | ssh via usb |
| 23:28.27 | Dave | ~_~ |
| 23:28.28 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 23:28.34 | badcloud | usb0 is no bloody where to be found |
| 23:28.42 | Dave | -_- |
| 23:28.44 | Dave | on your PC? |
| 23:28.50 | badcloud | router |
| 23:28.51 | Digital_Pioneer | ~_~ |
| 23:28.52 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 23:28.55 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheh |
| 23:28.56 | badcloud | my pc's dead |
| 23:29.01 | Dave | o_O |
| 23:29.06 | Dave | Who killed it? |
| 23:29.07 | Digital_Pioneer | s/_/_/ |
| 23:29.10 | badcloud | I had to salvage |
| 23:29.19 | badcloud | god did, Dave |
| 23:29.37 | badcloud | 6 years old |
| 23:29.41 | badcloud | it was time |
| 23:29.46 | badcloud | faulty |
| 23:29.52 | badcloud | motherboard |
| 23:31.24 | badcloud | so, Davo, what am I missing? I loaded the usbnet module, installed hotplug2 |
| 23:31.24 | Dave | :( |
| 23:31.27 | tomboy64 | ~_~ |
| 23:31.28 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 23:31.33 | tomboy64 | ??? |
| 23:31.35 | Dave | it should be there? |
| 23:31.35 | tomboy64 | wtf? |
| 23:31.38 | Dave | dmesg? |
| 23:31.46 | badcloud | it's there |
| 23:32.02 | Digital_Pioneer | ~_~ :) |
| 23:32.14 | badcloud | assigned address 20 |
| 23:32.37 | Dave | hmm |
| 23:32.43 | Dave | but it doesn't show up?? ifconfig -a |
| 23:32.44 | badcloud | do I need to alter the network config file? |
| 23:33.01 | badcloud | nope |
| 23:33.18 | badcloud | ifconfig -a|grep usb |
| 23:33.23 | badcloud | noting |
| 23:33.32 | badcloud | *nothing |
| 23:34.22 | Dave | /etc/networking/interfaces ? |
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| 23:35.08 | badcloud | no lines in it defining usb. should I edit one in? |
| 23:35.43 | Dave | uhh |
| 23:35.48 | Dave | what does the usb networking page say? :D |
| 23:36.10 | Dave | sorry /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:36.20 | Dave | and yeah, you should |
| 23:36.39 | Dave | I have debian here, and mine is appropriately configured to allow hotplug |
| 23:36.41 | Dave | works great :) |
| 23:36.45 | Dave | masquerading too |
| 23:37.39 | slaxxin | SuperDave |
| 23:37.41 | badcloud | I'll give it a shot |
| 23:37.50 | Dave | Yes! |
| 23:37.57 | Dave | What's slaxin, slaxxin? |
| 23:38.30 | slaxxin | ive been slackin |
| 23:38.36 | Dave | heh |
| 23:39.17 | slaxxin | had to do some actual manual labor |
| 23:40.44 | Dave | oh boohoo! |
| 23:40.46 | Dave | it's SO hard... |
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| 23:44.08 | mmp | hello, I'm playing a bit with GPS receiver, and I'm getting a bit strange output: http://pastebin.com/m34d8fa3f |
| 23:44.13 | mmp | any idea what could that mean? |
| 23:45.35 | mmp | I turned on the receiver manually via sysfs, no action was taken via frameworkd |
| 23:45.37 | TAsn | hey, does any one remember the name of the spirit level app? |
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| 23:51.46 | mmp | is there any way to hard-reset the GPS receiver? |
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