| 00:04.13 | |Marco| | lindi-: 2.6.28 |
| 00:04.31 | |Marco| | Linux om-gta02 2.6.28-rc4 #1 PREEMPT Sun Feb 8 19:53:16 CET 2009 armv4tl unknown |
| 00:05.07 | |Marco| | Calypso is running moko11-beta1 |
| 00:07.36 | lindi- | |Marco|: got a git commit hash for that? |
| 00:08.05 | |Marco| | hold on |
| 00:08.23 | lindi- | |Marco|: and do you see red aux led blinking as a sign of panic? |
| 00:08.44 | |Marco| | no |
| 00:09.01 | lindi- | |Marco|: does it stop responding to ping over usb0? |
| 00:10.03 | |Marco| | but it's rebooted now, got some corruption on sd, had a wifi link that I was logged in through, and it was still up, but almost all the dir's gave "Stale NFS file handle" comment |
| 00:10.08 | |Marco| | all files and sir's |
| 00:10.10 | |Marco| | dir's |
| 00:10.43 | lindi- | |Marco|: sounds like fs corruption, better fsck it |
| 00:11.09 | |Marco| | I did, but this was a clean install, and the same happend on a different card |
| 00:11.32 | |Marco| | this was on the 512mb card that came with the moko |
| 00:11.52 | |Marco| | the previous was a 2gb microsd |
| 00:12.25 | |Marco| | openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20090209-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz it's the kernel in there |
| 00:13.39 | |Marco| | sorry :( |
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| 00:20.48 | |Marco| | and it locked up again... |
| 00:21.17 | |Marco| | there is no kernel panic blinking |
| 00:21.42 | |Marco| | this time the screen blanked before, so no data... |
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| 00:34.21 | |Marco| | maby if I hook up the debug board I can give you some more info than this |
| 00:49.06 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: keewl :-) |
| 00:49.50 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: how did you know? :) |
| 00:50.26 | DocScrutinizer | wiki informs me about any change on important pages ;-) |
| 00:50.57 | DocScrutinizer | pretty, really pretty |
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| 00:53.31 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: I'd add a short comment OWTTE: "red are names as seen in xy and abc. Note however the names in pqr may differ" |
| 00:53.38 | PaulFertser | I wonder why almost any work i do looks so insignifacant after it's already done. I've spent more than 3 hours reading the driver source and the datasheet, understanding inkscape etc. But the resulting image looks like nothing hard or requiring any expertise. |
| 00:54.03 | PaulFertser | What's xy, abc and pqr? |
| 00:54.04 | DocScrutinizer | not at all |
| 00:54.47 | DocScrutinizer | (xyz) sth like statefiles, alsamixer (whereever the particular name may fit) |
| 00:56.09 | PaulFertser | That's alsa control names, the same as (i guess) in statefiles or amixer commands. Alsamixer can mangle them a little (like remove trailing Volume from controls that allow adjusting) but it's not that important, i guess. I'll add a remark though. |
| 00:56.19 | DocScrutinizer | names in WM8753.pdf sometimes differ a little to those used in c sources. Alsamixer even uses another set of names |
| 00:56.50 | DocScrutinizer | great work! :-))) |
| 00:57.32 | PaulFertser | Thanks |
| 00:58.41 | PaulFertser | I think the diagram follows closely the datasheet. |
| 01:01.57 | PaulFertser | BTW, judging by the datasheet and driver source "Mono 2 Mux" has two additional modes not found in the routing diagram, probably i should draw additional lines to show that. |
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| 01:05.13 | DocScrutinizer | hmm lemme see |
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| 01:15.46 | DocScrutinizer | yup another inaccuracy of the "prettier" diagram (compare the messy one above for that detail) |
| 01:16.03 | DocScrutinizer | another one I found is around VMID generation |
| 01:16.11 | DocScrutinizer | (5K) |
| 01:17.33 | DocScrutinizer | U realized Wolfson has published version 4.0 of the datasheet? Seems they mainly removed things marked "TBD" in ver3.4, like noise of mic-amp :P |
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| 01:38.15 | |Marco| | hm, sofar I like the debug board :D |
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| 03:07.19 | Slaxxer | whaats up |
| 03:08.48 | projektdotnet | Slaxxer: I think I hear crickets....you? |
| 03:10.01 | Slaxxer | spiders barking |
| 03:10.24 | Slaxxer | im ready for an shr release:) |
| 03:10.48 | Slaxxer | mine works pretty well with an older kernel |
| 03:10.55 | dufflebunk | I flashed FSO onto my phone this evening. The SMS part seems to be disabled. Has anyone seen that before? |
| 03:11.56 | Slaxxer | i recieved a call while using pythm an it switched to the call then back to the song all by itself:) |
| 03:12.17 | dufflebunk | I think the log is saying something about not being able to append with nulls. |
| 03:12.32 | Slaxxer | i had to answer the call ofcourse |
| 03:12.55 | Dave | :) |
| 03:14.05 | Slaxxer | thanks for all u do Dave |
| 03:14.16 | Slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.25 | Slaxxer | Dave |
| 03:14.55 | Slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.19 | Slaxxer | fire proffing? |
| 03:15.20 | Slaxxer | ' |
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| 03:15.27 | Dave | Somewhere in between :D |
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| 06:33.00 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03werner * r4924 10/developers/werner/stdlog/ (. Makefile stdlog.c): "Script" workalike but without requiring a tty. |
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| 07:45.17 | methril | morning |
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| 10:08.01 | freerunnerlive | hallo hab mal ne frage ich kann den ssh key speichern damit ich ohne password beim fr einloggen kann. Weià eriner wie das auch umgekhert geht ? |
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| 10:18.58 | lindi- | freerunnerlive: depends on what SSH server you use. with dropbear and openssh you just place your public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys -- just like on any other hardware |
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| 10:32.47 | freerunnerlive | Immanuel:~/.ssh# scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub root@neo:/home/root/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 10:33.07 | freerunnerlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.07 | freerunnerlive | root@192.168.178.22's password: |
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| 10:33.21 | freerunnerlive | must i restart ssh ? |
| 10:33.27 | lindi- | freerunnerlive: shouldn't need to |
| 10:34.30 | lindi- | freerunnerlive: does it log anything? |
| 10:35.17 | freerunnerlive | must i copy thios ? /.ssh/id_rsa |
| 10:35.25 | freerunnerlive | or this /.ssh/id_rsa.pub |
| 10:35.46 | lindi- | freerunnerlive: public key only |
| 10:36.06 | freerunnerlive | with thist ? dropbearkey -t rsa -f id_rsa.pub |
| 10:36.26 | lindi- | freerunnerlive: i used normal openssh ssh-keygen |
| 10:36.40 | lindi- | freerunnerlive: but dropbearkey probably should do too. are you really using dropbear on your PC? |
| 10:37.01 | freerunnerlive | on pc is no drobbear |
| 10:37.07 | freerunnerlive | is this the problem ? |
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| 10:48.51 | jrodger | How come when I flash Android to my FR I cannot get GSM signal anymore? |
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| 10:52.43 | CVirus | http://eviljaymz.com/files/whypeopleseemtohavefreetime.png |
| 10:53.00 | lindi- | freerunnerlive: how did you generate your public key? |
| 10:53.14 | lindi- | jrodger: what are you sending to the GSM chip? |
| 10:54.29 | jrodger | lindi: I am just trying to use the phone |
| 10:55.54 | lindi- | jrodger: ok ok, but to figure out the problem i need to know what you are sending to the gsm chip |
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| 10:58.12 | jrodger | lindi: I had flashed with Android uImage-v12.bin and freerunner-v12.jffs2 |
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| 11:01.12 | lindi- | jrodger: that doesn't help me much, sorry |
| 11:02.29 | jrodger | lindi: I have a Vodafone 3G phone sim......does that help? |
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| 11:02.42 | lindi- | jrodger: nope |
| 11:03.03 | lindi- | jrodger: i can help if i know what you are sending to /dev/ttySAC0 to the gsm chip |
| 11:03.27 | lindi- | jrodger: got lsof and strace? |
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| 11:12.03 | jrodger | not tried yet, will have a look.....brb |
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| 11:20.27 | PaulFertser_ | lindi-: i re-uploaded the svg source and added a link on that page to the necessary png file. Is it ok now? |
| 11:21.48 | lindi- | PaulFertser_: seems to be |
| 11:22.17 | lindi- | PaulFertser_: the file still mentions /home/pavel though if you look carefully :) |
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| 11:25.01 | PaulFertser_ | lindi-: i don't real care about export file name (and my real name as well) |
| 11:25.23 | lindi- | PaulFertser_: yeah it doesn't matter |
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| 12:21.46 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07python-helpers * rf5060958b6ee 10/pycd/ (pyc.c pycd.py): pyc: add a unix socket interface |
| 12:21.47 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07python-helpers * r382de6e12a42 10/pycd/ (pyc.c pycd.py): pyc: support waiting until the child is done |
| 12:21.48 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07python-helpers * r79019eca43bc 10/pycd/TODO: pyc: update TODO |
| 12:21.49 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07python-helpers * r79042eaa15a2 10/pycd/ (pyc.c pycd.py): pyc: update license |
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| 13:24.47 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07python-helpers * r41bcdfdfa608 10/mickeyterm/mickeyterm: add debug log for mickeyterm |
| 13:32.41 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout * r5509afd1d414 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/unsolicited.py: ogsmd: don't deactivate a pdp object that is not yet existing |
| 13:32.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout * reed87f3e3287 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ogsmd: remove per-command timeouts |
| 13:32.44 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout * r6495c7196893 10framework/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:32.44 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Rewritten timeout handling and unsolicited message handling. |
| 13:32.45 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: We now maintain a list of valid prefixes for every command |
| 13:32.47 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: in the Queue. Once the parser processes a complete line, it checks whether |
| 13:32.49 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: this line contains expected results. With this, it's safe to operate modems |
| 13:32.51 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: that mix unsolicited and solicited responses. It's also a safeguard against |
| 13:32.53 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: race conditions when talking to the modem over buffered lines. |
| 13:34.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout * r63a030a47c2a 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py: |
| 13:34.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO] send %CUNS=0 on startup. It now sends unsolicited responses |
| 13:34.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: directly once they're generated, which leads to potentially lots of mixed |
| 13:34.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: solicited/unsolicited responses. This should be a nice test-case for our new |
| 13:34.44 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: handling. |
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| 13:47.59 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout * r2072eae52f1a 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py: |
| 13:47.59 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: improve AUTOPREFIX handling. We can compute them for combined AT commands now |
| 13:47.59 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: as well (AT+FOO;+BAR;...) |
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| 13:49.39 | |Marco| | lindi-: I'm wondering if I'd try and reproduce the lockup I got last night, I've got the debug board (v3) hooked up and get whatever data needed. I can run any image you prefer, if it's any help to anyone that is :) |
| 13:50.55 | |Marco| | I think it was with gsm, gps and wifi activated at the same time |
| 13:51.01 | |Marco| | under shr |
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| 14:05.05 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout * r9acdee268f9d 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/parser.py: ogsmd: fix new parser for solicited messages with PDUs (+CMGL, what else?) |
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| 14:13.11 | lindi- | |Marco|: i am not lucky enough to have a debug board at all, with it you should be ble to figure out what it is doing |
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| 14:19.20 | Zorkman | lpotter, are you alive? |
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| 14:23.35 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03werner * r4925 10/developers/werner/athintd/ (. Makefile athintd.c): |
| 14:23.35 | CIA-49 | openmoko: Daemon to execute an arbitrary command when the AR6k driver signals |
| 14:23.35 | CIA-49 | openmoko: a firmware failure. Requires the AR6k driver to be compiled with |
| 14:23.35 | CIA-49 | openmoko: -DSEND_EVENT_TO_APP. Work in progress. |
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| 14:26.23 | |Marco| | lindi-: yes, that's what I'm hoping for, I'm just not good enough at understanding error messages and some other things. Ergo, I can do whatever you need if you want |
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| 14:40.29 | lindi- | |Marco|: have you used debug board before? |
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| 14:58.29 | |Marco| | lindi-: no, but it depends on what you need me to do |
| 15:00.07 | |Marco| | http://marco.cakebox.net/?topic=pdb&pid=800&type=2&l=0&a=16 |
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| 15:02.34 | |Marco| | lindi-: I'll probably figure out how to do what's needed |
| 15:03.46 | vollkorn | Hi, I'm new to this channel and I'm trying to find out who is "TeamHamburg" on http://cellhunter.omoco.de/ because I want to join them. Any idea who task to join? |
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| 15:08.23 | |Marco| | vollkorn: sorry, no. but have you checked for irc channels or email adresses to contact them on theire web side ? |
| 15:08.29 | |Marco| | err.. site |
| 15:09.23 | vollkorn | Marco: They do have a website? |
| 15:09.31 | |Marco| | I belive so |
| 15:09.34 | vollkorn | Marco: or did you mean cellhunter? |
| 15:09.40 | |Marco| | cellhunter |
| 15:09.50 | |Marco| | hold on |
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| 15:13.17 | PBeck | ahoi |
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| 15:15.24 | |Marco| | PBeck: ahoi there mate :D |
| 15:15.52 | Zorkman | beware the bugs on starboard! |
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| 15:16.00 | |Marco| | vollkorn: sorry, can't find anything |
| 15:16.23 | Zorkman | vollkorn, : just mail them |
| 15:16.27 | |Marco| | kernel panic ahead! |
| 15:16.32 | vollkorn | Marco: Same problem as I have. |
| 15:16.55 | stephan | hi all i just installed cacao and claspath on the fso build 5 but all i get when i try to start java is: Absurd stack bottom value Aborted |
| 15:17.11 | vollkorn | Marco: where do you see TeamHamburgs mailaddress? |
| 15:17.27 | |Marco| | I didn't |
| 15:17.37 | freerunnerlive1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sEj2oiSRBk |
| 15:17.44 | Zorkman | vollkorn, :Sebastian Hammerl <list-openmoko@omoco.de> |
| 15:18.13 | stephan | has anybody had the same problem? |
| 15:18.33 | Zorkman | ah oops, sorry, thought you meant to join the developper vollkorn , my bad |
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| 15:19.14 | vollkorn | Zorkman: Thanks anyway |
| 15:19.25 | Zorkman | vollkorn, since they are germans; why don't you try #neo1973-germany ? |
| 15:19.31 | Zorkman | a lot of germans in there :) |
| 15:19.43 | vollkorn | Zorkman: Because I didn't know of this channel yet ;) |
| 15:20.25 | Zorkman | we're here to help (and talk in pirate jargon aaaaaargh!) |
| 15:21.07 | stephan | has anybody a running java version on his freerunner? |
| 15:21.32 | |Marco| | Zorkman: aargh!! |
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| 15:33.53 | Zorkman | anyone know where i can get ecalc? http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/2b59f0f8e666d6478fbe3c5b213c3cb9.png |
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| 15:37.24 | max_posedon | Latest shr(freesmartphone) is really greate! I have gprs "online" uptime 24h, it successfully reconnects after suspend and so on! |
| 15:37.29 | rhkfin | Zorkman: googling with 'ecalc opkg' gave me an irc log with opkg install http://sylar-stuff.googlecode.com/files/ecalc_0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk |
| 15:37.32 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 15:37.41 | toggles_w | thats nice, put it in shr! |
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| 15:41.01 | SpeedEvil | max_posedon: online - without USB? |
| 15:41.17 | max_posedon | with and without |
| 15:41.22 | SpeedEvil | I mean - without charger |
| 15:41.23 | max_posedon | I don't mean uptime |
| 15:41.31 | SpeedEvil | Do you mean battery life? |
| 15:41.36 | max_posedon | I mean it reconnects after suspend!!! |
| 15:41.45 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 15:41.47 | max_posedon | successfuly!! themself!! |
| 15:42.08 | max_posedon | and during all this I successfully make calls. |
| 15:42.13 | SpeedEvil | neat http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0632.html |
| 15:42.14 | SpeedEvil | oops |
| 15:42.17 | SpeedEvil | neat |
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| 15:44.32 | Zorkman | rhkfin, thanks! |
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| 15:49.35 | |Marco| | max_posedon: how about with gps and/or wifi activated at the same time? (neo1973 or FreeRunner?) |
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| 16:28.48 | freerunnerlive1 | i use the last testing |
| 16:29.34 | freerunnerlive1 | openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090218-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 ? |
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| 18:03.00 | stra | l |
| 18:05.20 | stra | spaetz: Who in SHR is responsible for the distribution package/software selection? |
| 18:09.18 | toggles_w | stra: tell them to put this in http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/2b59f0f8e666d6478fbe3c5b213c3cb9.png http://sylar-stuff.googlecode.com/files/ecalc_0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk |
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| 18:32.28 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout * r553ec4592a22 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (gsm/parser.py modems/abstract/mediator.py): |
| 18:32.28 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: support allowing all prefixes for commands -- this is necessary for the few |
| 18:32.28 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: commands that do not need to answer with the prefix, e.g. +CIMI is allowed to answer |
| 18:32.28 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: directly with the SIM's IMSI |
| 18:32.30 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout * r4b506bd69bf6 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py: |
| 18:32.33 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO] the AlwaysUnsolicitedParser is no longer necessary now |
| 18:32.35 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: that the StateBasedLowLevelParser is good enough. |
| 18:32.37 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout * r08a5070a5974 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py: ogsmd: use more strict RE for AUTOPREFIX matching |
| 18:32.40 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout * r858c8d58d1f7 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (gsm/parser.py modems/ti_calypso/mediator.py): |
| 18:32.43 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: teach parse about 'PDU' special prefix that does accept everything |
| 18:32.45 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: that starts with {0123456789ABCDEF} |
| 18:33.36 | fradeve | toggles_w: you could upload the package to opkg.org |
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| 18:37.39 | toggles_w | fradeve: i was hoping it was in oe |
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| 18:50.50 | akus | hello |
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| 18:51.37 | akus | how can i copy the files from my freerunner to openmoko ? |
| 18:52.54 | PaulFertser_ | akus: what? |
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| 18:55.37 | akus | PaulFertser_: i don't remember the syntax of scp command |
| 18:55.50 | akus | to copy a file from freerunner to pc |
| 18:56.16 | PaulFertser_ | akus: scp <source> <destination> where source is loginname@host:/path |
| 18:56.26 | PaulFertser_ | akus: there's "man scp" there for you ;) |
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| 19:08.57 | spaetz | stra: Ainulindale and mrmoku would be my first bets... |
| 19:09.03 | Serdar | what was the channel for android and openmoko? |
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| 19:12.47 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * re21263eed75f 10/gsm0710mux/ (channel.vala serial.vala): refactor serial and pty in order to prepare for socket abstraction |
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| 19:46.01 | cb22 | sorry about that :/ |
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| 20:46.11 | uhsf | my phone log was lost again. |
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| 20:46.39 | uhsf | i rebooted but i still get an error message. |
| 20:46.49 | uhsf | how to get my phone log back? |
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| 20:50.20 | PaulFertser_ | uhsf: which distro? |
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| 20:51.29 | uhsf | shr |
| 20:51.59 | PaulFertser_ | uhsf: so, you're talking about pyphonelog probably? |
| 20:52.31 | uhsf | phone log stopped running unexpectedly. there was no error message. |
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| 20:54.05 | PaulFertser_ | uhsf: run it from the command line and pastebin the traceback probably? |
| 20:54.12 | uhsf | i'm talking about the application called Phone Log where i can see calls that i received or sent. |
| 20:54.51 | PaulFertser_ | uhsf: start it from command line then and you'll see what's wrong there |
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| 20:57.33 | uhsf | sqlite3.OperationalError: Could not decode to UTF-8 column 'number' with text '?? |
| 20:57.42 | samgee | uhsf, I had a similar problem after someone called me up anonymously |
| 20:58.09 | uhsf | so how did you get it back? |
| 20:58.48 | samgee | you can either throw away the phone log databse file |
| 20:59.00 | samgee | or remove that record from it |
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| 20:59.50 | samgee | I think they solved the issue, but I don't know if that change made it into testing |
| 21:00.18 | PaulFertser_ | Testing is not maintained for quite some time, currently unstable is considered the most stable SHR :) |
| 21:00.29 | PaulFertser_ | The plan is to move current unstable to testing soon. |
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| 21:01.44 | samgee | PaulFertser_, I know, but I was having trouble with bug #296, so I'm still on a testing image |
| 21:01.48 | uhsf | removing that record would mean to have sqlite knowledge. that's not really convenient. |
| 21:01.57 | samgee | uhsf, indeed :) |
| 21:02.29 | samgee | another learning opportunity :) |
| 21:02.52 | PaulFertser_ | uhsf: sqlite knowledge is nothing very specific comparing to usual sql knowledge. |
| 21:03.44 | uhsf | i guess i just don't have that much time to spend on my phone |
| 21:04.11 | PaulFertser_ | samgee: #296 is fixed |
| 21:04.49 | samgee | PaulFertser_, I have the same problem regarding time as uhsf :) |
| 21:05.41 | samgee | somehow, sleeping less doesn't really solve that |
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| 21:05.54 | PaulFertser_ | No wonder, more time, less efficiency. |
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| 21:07.27 | samgee | meh, I can be effecient when I'm dead |
| 21:07.34 | samgee | no wait, that was sleeping |
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| 21:18.24 | Daramarak | Does the pil (Python imaging library) exist for om? |
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| 21:27.19 | PaulFertser_ | Hey Gnutoo :) Have you flashed the firmware? ;) |
| 21:27.49 | Gnutoo | PaulFertser_, i will do it...I didn't have time yet |
| 21:27.58 | Gnutoo | PaulFertser_, maybe now... |
| 21:29.08 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: btw, if you're running SHR, there's no need to flash another distro really. |
| 21:29.37 | Gnutoo | ok i'm running SHR unstable |
| 21:29.39 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: or FSO or Debian. I just don't know anything about H:1 and qtopia |
| 21:29.48 | Gnutoo | do I have to put a sim card inside to flash it? |
| 21:29.54 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 21:30.18 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: so, no need to flash anything else really. You better do not put sim card in, but in my experience it didn't hurt. But if it's not in now, no need to do it. |
| 21:30.40 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 21:31.08 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: so, you need to kill ophonekitd and ensure it doesn't start again. Are you comfortable with it? |
| 21:31.16 | Gnutoo | yes |
| 21:31.26 | Gnutoo | i've things such as lsof |
| 21:31.30 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: after that check you have no gsm0710muxd running anymore |
| 21:32.13 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: and use the command from "Troubleshooting" on the wiki page to actually flash, that's the preferred method anyway. |
| 21:32.29 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 21:33.00 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: get moko11 from http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/calypso-moko11-beta1.m0 |
| 21:33.56 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: follow Phase1, then get straight to Troubleshooting. |
| 21:34.08 | Gnutoo | ok thanks a lot |
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| 21:36.21 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: sometimes (probably once in 10 times) one needs to reissue power down/up commands (leaving the fluid.exe running) if it stays at (reset target) after you power on. |
| 21:36.32 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 21:37.40 | Gnutoo | is that ok: 33e6bbd60bf882011588ba8b3af4441c fluid_0.0+svn20070817-r2_armv4t_eabi.ipk ? (md5sum) |
| 21:40.03 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: yes |
| 21:40.14 | Gnutoo | ok so I bet the others are ok too |
| 21:40.24 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: anyway my guess is that opkg won't install a corrupted archive. |
| 21:40.47 | Gnutoo | ok |
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| 21:45.30 | PaulFertser_ | Any GTA01 owner out there? |
| 21:47.41 | Gnutoo | PaulFertser_, i've reseted the GSM modem and it's still stuck at: Bootloader: (reset target) |
| 21:47.48 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: reset it again |
| 21:48.07 | Gnutoo | ok |
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| 21:48.46 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: did it work the second time? |
| 21:48.49 | Gnutoo | ah ok there is no /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on |
| 21:49.00 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: ahaha |
| 21:49.10 | Gnutoo | ah yes there is strange |
| 21:49.40 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: hm, use find |
| 21:50.22 | Gnutoo | http://rafb.net/p/4wFyyU10.html |
| 21:51.04 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: did you "cd" to /usr/sbin before trying that? |
| 21:51.13 | Gnutoo | no i'll do it |
| 21:52.05 | Gnutoo | it's checksumming now |
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| 21:52.33 | Gnutoo | s/checksumming/programming |
| 21:52.34 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: cool |
| 21:52.49 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: that's it, basically, after it's done you can restart ophonekitd. |
| 21:53.06 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 21:53.46 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: oh, btw, should have told you you're not supposed to run any programs too actively using cpu or io while doing that. But it doesn't matter, cause it's ROM bootloader anyway. |
| 21:54.36 | Gnutoo | ok thanks it has finished...i'll put another problematic sim inside the phone(i'll try the 3g sim card tomorrow) |
| 21:54.43 | Gnutoo | thanks a lot!!! |
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| 21:55.18 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: you're welcome. BTW, ophonekitd had a problem 2 weeks ago which was uncovered by proper hardware flowcontrol. I hope you're using a recent enough version. |
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| 21:55.57 | Gnutoo | ok i'll opkg update && opkg upgrade |
| 21:56.24 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: i hope you're not using pre-fastboot version. |
| 21:56.50 | Gnutoo | PaulFertser_, no i'm using a recent version and i'm using the unstable version |
| 21:56.52 | Gnutoo | booted |
| 21:57.24 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: unstable had fastboot disabled as well some time ago. |
| 21:57.33 | Gnutoo | ok |
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| 22:06.10 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: so, have you already tried it? |
| 22:08.00 | Gnutoo | yes with the old problematic card I couldn't access sms,contacts etc...it was empty...but with the recent one it's ok |
| 22:08.06 | Gnutoo | i'll try the 3g card |
| 22:08.35 | Gnutoo | (but the pin was accepted for the old card) |
| 22:08.44 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: don't forget that the network should still support 2g for that to work. |
| 22:08.46 | jOERG_rw | hmm, maybe I might find a little tome to continue uSD-image for MOKO11 |
| 22:09.01 | jOERG_rw | s/to/ti/ |
| 22:09.18 | PaulFertser_ | jOERG_rw: do you have any issues left with booting? |
| 22:09.59 | jOERG_rw | no progress on that yet. That's why I just pondered. Feeling like kinda late :-/ |
| 22:10.32 | jOERG_rw | was busy with flu. (think it will never ever vanish again) |
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| 22:10.45 | ike | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.59 | jOERG_rw | 5 |
| 22:11.01 | jOERG_rw | 6 |
| 22:11.12 | PaulFertser_ | But you see, those interested can come to IRC and get qualified advice. In fact, i think i can tweak wiki page to provide the instructions i provided today to make it even more easily accessible for "end-users". |
| 22:11.34 | jOERG_rw | go ahead. Wellcome |
| 22:12.08 | Gnutoo | mmm on my old phone my old card works |
| 22:12.10 | jOERG_rw | think we must talk Dieter into removing the "beta1" as well |
| 22:12.13 | Gnutoo | i'll retry |
| 22:12.22 | PaulFertser_ | Not today, i was going to finish a "decent" post describing my bluetooth "adventures". |
| 22:12.36 | jOERG_rw | cool |
| 22:12.48 | jOERG_rw | don't forget to CC me ;-) |
| 22:13.24 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: you know that you have to wait some time after registering before your sim phonebook and messagebook will be accessible (like 30 seconds or more), don't you? |
| 22:13.38 | Gnutoo | PaulFertser_, ok thanks |
| 22:13.42 | Gnutoo | i'll wait |
| 22:13.55 | Gnutoo | but if it doesn't register? |
| 22:14.36 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: then something else is wrong. But i think any 2G-capable sim works with moko9 and higher firmware versions. |
| 22:14.36 | Gnutoo | maybe trying the 3g card instead of this one is a better idea |
| 22:14.54 | Gnutoo | no it's normal...the card is too old for beeing registered |
| 22:15.20 | Gnutoo | (i move between countries each 3-4 years and so the old sim cards aren't used anymore) |
| 22:16.26 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: then probably ophonekitd or even FSO don't want to show you your contacts before it registers. I'm not sure of that one. |
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| 22:16.58 | Gnutoo | PaulFertser_, ok is it a bug? should I bugreport? or is it normal? |
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| 22:18.32 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: hm, i'd check the sources first. |
| 22:19.21 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: but with the old card and old firmware you couldn't even enter PIN, right? |
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| 22:19.46 | Gnutoo | yes |
| 22:20.07 | Gnutoo | bugreport not for the firmware but for ophonekitd |
| 22:20.58 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: probably even FSO, but that should be investigated independetly. Can you try Zhone (i think it's not a problem to run it on SHR)? But wait for a minute after entering the pin to be sure. |
| 22:21.14 | Gnutoo | ok thanks |
| 22:21.34 | Gnutoo | i'll try AT commands |
| 22:21.53 | PaulFertser_ | The most direct way, yes :) |
| 22:22.47 | orzo | anybody play nintendo gaems on their phone? |
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| 22:26.30 | Gnutoo | AT commands via FSO work |
| 22:27.05 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: but you still don't know if it's FSO or SHR bug :) |
| 22:27.18 | Gnutoo | yes i'll install FSO |
| 22:27.24 | PaulFertser_ | No, there's no need |
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| 22:27.36 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: i think opkg install zhone is enough |
| 22:27.56 | Gnutoo | thanks a lot |
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| 22:36.39 | Serdar | Unerwhat to do after 7. http://trac.koolu.org/ ? |
| 22:37.09 | PaulFertser_ | Enjoy unique A experience |
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| 22:39.00 | Serdar | how to enjoy, it need to be installed on my openmoko, but if I'm sure there was no jffs2 compiled |
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| 22:40.25 | PaulFertser_ | Serdar: that was a sarcastic comment meaning that in my opinion enjoying and using android at the same time is not possible. |
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| 22:45.43 | Serdar | PaulFertser_, what do you mean? |
| 22:46.18 | PaulFertser_ | Serdar: first of all, android is not free software. |
| 22:46.32 | PaulFertser_ | Serdar: second, it's not targeted for hackers. |
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| 22:46.49 | PaulFertser_ | Serdar: third, it doesn't work reliably on FR anyway (probably yet). |
| 22:46.52 | Serdar | android is GPL if I got it wrong |
| 22:47.28 | PaulFertser_ | Serdar: you got it wrong |
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| 22:49.40 | Serdar | which open source licence does it have then? |
| 22:50.06 | Serdar | was it apache? |
| 22:50.08 | Gnutoo | seems to be FSO |
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| 22:53.18 | PaulFertser_ | Serdar: apache for most userspace, GPL for kernel part and PROPRIETARY for some very important user-space parts, including GSM library. |
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| 22:54.42 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: ok, now you can ask mickey|bbl if accessing contacts and smses without registration should work. :) |
| 22:55.00 | lindi- | PaulFertser_: any idea what the GSM library does? |
| 22:55.39 | PaulFertser_ | lindi-: panicking knows that better but i guess all modem-specific stuff. |
| 22:55.51 | Gnutoo | PaulFertser_, ok thanks a lot i'll ask it to him tomorrow when he'll be back...i add it on my todo list(pimlico on the openmoko) |
| 22:56.05 | lindi- | PaulFertser_: at least the AT parser is free |
| 22:56.13 | PaulFertser_ | Gnutoo: he's already back, btw |
| 22:56.26 | Gnutoo | PaulFertser_, ah ok thanks |
| 22:56.53 | lindi- | PaulFertser_: it is an interesting question whether it is more ok to have proprietary stuff on a separate procesor or on the main processor |
| 22:56.56 | PaulFertser_ | lindi-: i wonder why was it so hard to fix improper for calypso CPIN command. |
| 22:57.10 | lindi- | PaulFertser_: android AT parser? |
| 22:57.20 | lindi- | i think it had some #ifdef's for that? |
| 22:57.46 | PaulFertser_ | lindi-: the guys used to send some mails with proprietary binaries over the openmoko-kernel mailing list to solve that. |
| 22:57.48 | Gnutoo | mickey|bbl, hello, should the access of sms and contacts on the sim without network registration work in FSO? |
| 22:57.56 | mickey|bbl | yes |
| 22:58.10 | lindi- | PaulFertser_: "interesting" |
| 22:58.19 | Gnutoo | mickey|bbl, so I might have an old version of FSO or I may have found a bug |
| 22:58.26 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: sorry for taking so long to test the StartAutoRegister issue btw |
| 22:58.51 | Gnutoo | i'll retry zhone |
| 22:58.53 | mickey|bbl | lindi-: no problem. StartAutoRegister is not using the Resource system yet |
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| 23:00.32 | badcloud | hey peoplz |
| 23:00.32 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: i did some testing today with a minimal "dialer" that sits in the background and lets me answer calls with AUX. the point is that I am doing Xorg testing and I want to be able to answer calls no matter how broken X is :) |
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| 23:00.58 | mickey|bbl | lindi-: sounds good |
| 23:01.03 | Gnutoo | ah ok import error |
| 23:01.05 | mickey|bbl | for that you should set the resource policy to enabled |
| 23:01.10 | mickey|bbl | and then start auto register |
| 23:01.10 | badcloud | anyone here using dillo under 2008.12? |
| 23:01.17 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: I even got this crazy idea: start everything needed to answer calls to initramfs so that I can answer calls even while fsck is running :-) |
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| 23:01.59 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: people have been starting ssh servers from initramfs during fsck for a while (it is useful for admins to be able to access the system early) so this is totally doable even if it sounds hackish |
| 23:02.22 | mickey|bbl | lindi-: not crazy at all, i like that |
| 23:02.37 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: it would also tolerate SD card dying |
| 23:03.22 | lindi- | and with all the glamo/SD bugs it is not totally unlikely scenario that SD card access blocks but otherwise the system works |
| 23:03.45 | SpeedEvil | wonders what fraction of those bugs will also lock up the display. |
| 23:03.52 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: how do i set the resource policy to enabled? |
| 23:04.10 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: i am running only ogsmd |
| 23:04.24 | mickey|bbl | ah right |
| 23:04.31 | mickey|bbl | you don't want to use all the goodies |
| 23:04.41 | mickey|bbl | that won't work then |
| 23:04.42 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: i'm afraid of bugs :) |
| 23:04.55 | lindi- | there are plenty of kernel/X/ogsmd bugs left |
| 23:05.10 | mickey|bbl | so you will start using it eventually? |
| 23:05.11 | lindi- | when those work reliably i can start testing fancier subsystems ;) |
| 23:05.17 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: i don't know |
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| 23:05.24 | badcloud | can't seem to get a keyboard in dillo... |
| 23:05.26 | badcloud | :P |
| 23:06.00 | lindi- | PaulFertser_: do you remember when they talked about binaries on kernel list? december? earlier? |
| 23:06.10 | orzo | lindi-: i keep accidently calling somebody when i'm trying to hang up |
| 23:06.23 | lindi- | orzo: in kapula? |
| 23:06.26 | orzo | yes |
| 23:06.36 | orzo | i try to use that menu with my finger |
| 23:06.40 | orzo | and miss |
| 23:06.44 | orzo | i guess |
| 23:06.44 | Serdar | how's shr and FSO? |
| 23:07.17 | PaulFertser_ | lindi-: no, January. Then i wrote a rant about how sick i'm of that inappropriate stuff and they left :) |
| 23:07.24 | lindi- | orzo: yeah i need to figure out how to use GTK themese to make the menus larger |
| 23:07.36 | lindi- | orzo: i agree it is not very usable :( |
| 23:08.15 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: but can you make StartAutoRegister at least fail so that I can loop while it succeeds? |
| 23:08.27 | lindi- | s/while/until/ |
| 23:08.45 | mickey|bbl | well |
| 23:08.50 | orzo | lindi, do you know what would be great? A mostly drag-and-drop interface to the phone. Drag-and-drop is pretty nice on a little touch screen |
| 23:08.51 | mickey|bbl | you are supposed to enable gsm first |
| 23:08.55 | mickey|bbl | then launch autoregsiter |
| 23:09.11 | Gnutoo | mickey|bbl, http://rafb.net/p/1pkJNc89.html |
| 23:09.15 | orzo | so a call appears, ok, drag it to the activation icon |
| 23:09.20 | Gnutoo | mickey|bbl, it's the zhone log |
| 23:09.20 | mickey|bbl | i will add the resource-enabled checkers from the other methods to gsmphone |
| 23:09.25 | SpeedEvil | orzo: fingers |
| 23:09.37 | SpeedEvil | orzo: that means the area for the phone call to appear needs to be large. |
| 23:09.38 | mickey|bbl | Gnutoo: looks like you don't have the illume module |
| 23:09.42 | SpeedEvil | orzo: as does the target |
| 23:09.45 | orzo | of course |
| 23:09.54 | mickey|bbl | Gnutoo: this is a compiled module. if you just copied the code over, you will be missing that |
| 23:09.55 | SpeedEvil | orzo: it means there is no 'accept' button in a consistent place |
| 23:09.56 | orzo | i envision an interface with basically four icons |
| 23:10.05 | orzo | no |
| 23:10.13 | orzo | it doesnt mean that |
| 23:10.35 | Gnutoo | mickey|bbl, where can i find it without bitbaking it(would take too long) |
| 23:10.41 | Gnutoo | ? |
| 23:10.42 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: but if I "sleep 60" it works? |
| 23:10.53 | mickey|bbl | Gnutoo: in any of the feeds |
| 23:11.02 | mickey|bbl | downloads.freesmartphone.org, for a start |
| 23:11.31 | mickey|bbl | lindi-: yes, since frameworkd will enable the resource if you have no usaged running |
| 23:11.32 | Gnutoo | ok thanks a lot(i'll search for python and illume) |
| 23:11.40 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: ok but that happens too late |
| 23:11.44 | orzo | there is one icon at the bottom that selects a single contact item, either from a phonebook, or from the set of incomming calls. there is another icon representing a place holder for activating a call or selected active call |
| 23:12.43 | orzo | to answer, you drag the incomming call to the activator, to hangup, you drag the active call to the trashbin. To put somebody on hold, you drag them out of the active call area into the hold area |
| 23:12.56 | mickey|bbl | lindi-: the correct order is first enabling the resource |
| 23:13.01 | mickey|bbl | then launching autoregister |
| 23:13.07 | lindi- | orzo: that'd look cool when you have multiple calls on hold :) |
| 23:13.13 | SpeedEvil | orzo: to order a killing, you drag the contract info into the trashcan? |
| 23:13.23 | mickey|bbl | you will get a signal, when the resource has been enabled |
| 23:13.25 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: but without ousaged i can't enable it? ;) |
| 23:13.33 | mickey|bbl | <mickey|bbl> lindi-: yes, since frameworkd will enable the resource if you have no usaged running |
| 23:13.38 | orzo | i also have a prototype |
| 23:13.40 | orzo | in C |
| 23:14.07 | orzo | i select different contacts by rotating my finger around the icon |
| 23:14.10 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: yep but i need to wait for it to do that |
| 23:14.19 | mickey|bbl | yes |
| 23:14.24 | lindi- | and there's this race where StartAutoRegister will just silently fail |
| 23:14.24 | mickey|bbl | it will do that once it's in mainloop |
| 23:14.34 | mickey|bbl | it's not a race |
| 23:14.37 | mickey|bbl | it should error out |
| 23:14.46 | mickey|bbl | but i did not have a chance to add the @resourcechecks |
| 23:14.51 | lindi- | ok |
| 23:14.55 | mickey|bbl | then you will get a "ResourceNotEnabled" |
| 23:15.03 | orzo | not a full prototype, but i've experimented with a gtk interface with drag and drop and implemented the rotating selector |
| 23:15.08 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: that'd help me yes |
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| 23:16.11 | lindi- | orzo: now that we have solid foundations people will have motivation to invest time in making nice UIs ;) |
| 23:16.24 | orzo | does that mean you, lindi? |
| 23:16.40 | orzo | this project has been idle for weeks |
| 23:16.44 | orzo | heh |
| 23:16.51 | orzo | my fancy ui |
| 23:17.13 | lindi- | orzo: i'm not really UI designer :/ |
| 23:17.55 | orzo | well i already have he design planned mostly |
| 23:18.09 | lindi- | orzo: feel free to implement ;) |
| 23:18.13 | orzo | heheh |
| 23:18.33 | orzo | ya iduno if i want to hand it off anyway |
| 23:18.41 | orzo | i just dont have a lot of time |
| 23:18.51 | lindi- | same problem here |
| 23:20.23 | orzo | any interest in a nintendo emulator? |
| 23:20.33 | orzo | fceu runs too slow on my gta01 |
| 23:20.36 | badcloud | RIGHT HERE |
| 23:20.45 | lindi- | orzo: none |
| 23:20.49 | badcloud | die hard NES fan |
| 23:20.59 | badcloud | lindi-, ?!?!?!? |
| 23:21.09 | orzo | i adapted tuxnes which does JIT compiling of 6502 code |
| 23:21.16 | orzo | i can now build an ARM binary for the phone |
| 23:22.00 | badcloud | orzo, compile that shit as soon as you can |
| 23:22.01 | orzo | however, i left stubs where i need a translation table from 6502 machine code into arm machien code |
| 23:22.20 | orzo | badcloud, do you want to pick up the project off of me? |
| 23:22.32 | badcloud | wouldn't know how |
| 23:22.42 | orzo | do you know any programming? |
| 23:22.46 | badcloud | nope |
| 23:23.02 | orzo | do you use a gta01? |
| 23:23.14 | Gnutoo | can't find zhone ipk...i'll bitbake it |
| 23:23.18 | badcloud | 02 |
| 23:23.26 | mickey|bbl | can't find it? |
| 23:23.28 | mickey|bbl | oh well |
| 23:23.36 | mickey|bbl | let me look it up for you |
| 23:23.39 | mickey|bbl | it's 5 clicks, you know |
| 23:23.40 | orzo | badcloud, does fceu not run well on the gta02? |
| 23:23.44 | lindi- | badcloud: well, those are non-free games anyway :) |
| 23:24.04 | badcloud | shouldn't stop anyone |
| 23:24.26 | orzo | i agree heh |
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| 23:24.47 | orzo | it'd be cool to be able to show my friends my phone plays nintendo games |
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| 23:25.13 | badcloud | fuck showing them, PLAYING the games |
| 23:25.20 | orzo | i get a lot of teasing for buying this junk you know :P |
| 23:25.25 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: btw, when using AUX to answer calls I realized that I might want to use AUX for other things too. When the phone is ringing I want AUX to answer the call and not wake any other process that is also waiting on AUX |
| 23:25.44 | badcloud | me too |
| 23:26.09 | badcloud | confound it, isn't there a working web browser in om 2008.12 with text input?? |
| 23:26.10 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: I ended up using EIOCGRAB ioctl to block other /dev/input/event4 users -- have you thought about something similar in oeventsd? |
| 23:26.21 | Gnutoo | the problem is that I looked in both feeds and I used firefox's search feature without the match case and also looked at all the ^z packages |
| 23:27.00 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: afaik currently it broadcasts the signal to all recipients which means that AUX can not be easily used for two things |
| 23:27.03 | badcloud | gotta go |
| 23:28.07 | orzo | i use dillo |
| 23:28.26 | mickey|bbl | lindi-: i didn't want to go that far. odeviced's input plugin is merely for people who just want a simple way to get some things running when they don't have X |
| 23:28.27 | orzo | with a patch to make the window scroll with left click drag |
| 23:28.37 | orzo | i have a debian package of that if anybody wants |
| 23:28.42 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: ok |
| 23:29.04 | mickey|bbl | i still think something based on framebuffer would be nice |
| 23:29.13 | mickey|bbl | perhaps elementary-fb |
| 23:29.21 | laen | lindi-: wooooo, that sounds super cool :) (aux answering). |
| 23:29.27 | lindi- | mickey|bbl: without X? |
| 23:30.10 | orzo | aux should hang up too for now |
| 23:30.18 | laen | lindi-: is there a possibility that kapula and that aux answering thing can be integrated into eachother, like kapula's answer button as a frontend to that one or something? |
| 23:30.28 | lindi- | laen: they can both run at the same time of course |
| 23:30.36 | laen | Wow, okay, didn't expect that. |
| 23:30.40 | lindi- | laen: you can answer calls with either one |
| 23:30.49 | mickey|bbl | lindi-: yes |
| 23:30.52 | lindi- | laen: but you need to use kapula if you want to call somebody |
| 23:30.55 | orzo | answer button? did you go back to a button? |
| 23:30.57 | laen | And you can telephone without X running? |
| 23:31.02 | mickey|bbl | one of the nice things of EFL is that you can run most of it on framebuffer |
| 23:31.27 | orzo | what's EFL? |
| 23:31.29 | laen | lindi-: logical :) |
| 23:31.32 | lindi- | laen: if X crashes I want that it is stil possible to answer calls |
| 23:31.51 | lindi- | orzo: nope, it's still menu |
| 23:32.10 | laen | lindi-: i think you are the most sexy phone developer of the planet :D |
| 23:32.18 | orzo | heh |
| 23:32.29 | lindi- | laen: it lets you answer the calls yes, dialing is bit more challenging since there is no real way to input anything without X |
| 23:32.45 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: I told you. hook-dialing! It's the wave of the future! |
| 23:32.49 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 23:32.52 | laen | Seriously.. from all the openmoko-related projects, there's just _one_ which is reaaaally good and extremely interesting. And that's lindi-'s :) |
| 23:33.07 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: press the button 7 times in rapid sequence - a 7, ... |
| 23:33.40 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: but how do you give feedback to the user? ; |
| 23:33.53 | laen | lindi-: in what state is the sms app btw? ready to send and read graphicly? |
| 23:33.56 | orzo | most of lindi's project is done by the freesmartphone.org framework people, he just reads tehir docs and code |
| 23:33.58 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: if X crashes it may leave the display to a WSOD or something worse |
| 23:34.08 | lindi- | laen: i haven't had time to think about it |
| 23:34.10 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: bleeps/vibrations! |
| 23:34.15 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 23:34.25 | SpeedEvil | Or - press button - 5 shakes - 5 |
| 23:34.27 | SpeedEvil | ... |
| 23:34.27 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: speech output would not be _that_ horrible |
| 23:34.44 | laen | orzo: sure, but the only apps interesting, really interesting, are lindi-'s.. and lindi- seems to be the only one at all programming in exactly the right direction :) |
| 23:34.50 | SpeedEvil | The only problem is you may appear to the casual observer to be masturbating. |
| 23:35.39 | lindi- | laen: but really, SMS app should not be that difficult to write if you really need it? |
| 23:35.49 | laen | lindi-: true. |
| 23:36.05 | laen | Anyway, time for bed unfortunately. |
| 23:36.08 | lindi- | i don't don't need it since i mostly call people or use email/irc |
| 23:36.14 | orzo | i want SMS to get gps maps |
| 23:36.22 | lindi- | laen: bye then |
| 23:36.24 | lindi- | orzo: gps maps? |
| 23:36.25 | laen | bai :) |
| 23:36.43 | orzo | sure, road maps for tangogps |
| 23:36.54 | mickey|bbl | g'night |
| 23:36.55 | lindi- | orzo: why those need SMS? |
| 23:36.56 | SpeedEvil | Umm - how does that help you to get gps maps? |
| 23:36.56 | orzo | it has no map, well it sends a message to the computer and the computer replies back with a map tile |
| 23:37.15 | Gnutoo | I realy need sleep...I'll also go to sleep... |
| 23:37.33 | PaulFertser_ | Shit, i need it too |
| 23:37.36 | orzo | lindi-: well there's no internet in the car typically. What would you suggest? |
| 23:37.44 | SpeedEvil | orzo: download OSM first. |
| 23:37.45 | lindi- | orzo: gprs? |
| 23:37.56 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: or that |
| 23:38.27 | orzo | ya well tango gps has you flush out the areas that you'll be going on the internet but maybe you neglected to do it |
| 23:38.28 | lindi- | hrm, debian experimental is still broken, can't get Xorg 1.5 |
| 23:38.35 | orzo | itd be handy to get a map via sms |
| 23:38.44 | lindi- | => can't help in testing the new Xorg glamo driver |
| 23:39.03 | lindi- | orzo: sms is bit short for that, don't you think? |
| 23:39.10 | orzo | or are you saying i should download the entire osm collection of tiles? |
| 23:39.14 | lindi- | orzo: just download whole OSM map? |
| 23:39.23 | lindi- | orzo: no tiles, use vector data |
| 23:39.38 | orzo | tangogps uses tiles |
| 23:39.39 | SpeedEvil | orzo: I mean you download the whole world to 5 tiles deep or so - you get country overviews |
| 23:39.45 | lindi- | orzo: yes you need to use navit :/ |
| 23:40.05 | SpeedEvil | orzo: then you download the country you're in to maybe 8-9 tiles deep, and the areas you're likely to be in to 12 deep |
| 23:40.20 | orzo | well hows the vector data? Is it as usable as tangogps's tiles? |
| 23:40.31 | lindi- | orzo: navit is not as pretty |
| 23:40.47 | lindi- | orzo: but since it is vector data it can be extended to support searching by name etc. |
| 23:40.56 | lindi- | bitmap tiles are quite dumb |
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| 23:42.10 | orzo | i know bitmap tiles are not ideal, but i thought its the best we have atm |
| 23:42.41 | orzo | is the vector data from OSM too? |
| 23:43.26 | lindi- | orzo: sure |
| 23:43.35 | orzo | well in any case, arbitrary services from my computer via sms seems worthwhile |
| 23:43.57 | lindi- | orzo: not for me. SMS costs, gprs is flatrate :) |
| 23:44.04 | orzo | i have unlimited SMS |
| 23:44.12 | lindi- | I was beginning to suspect that :P |
| 23:44.19 | orzo | or i have unlimited text messaging anyway |
| 23:44.36 | lindi- | orzo: well, did you read the wiki on how to send sms from command line automatically? |
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| 23:44.37 | orzo | the protocol boundaries are a bit fuzzy to me |
| 23:44.44 | lindi- | SMS_SPAMMER_HOWT.. |
| 23:44.53 | orzo | heh |
| 23:45.11 | lindi- | just dbus-send? |
| 23:45.18 | orzo | no, but thats because i've not gotten around to seriously doing any sms service |
| 23:45.36 | orzo | i made a nicer display out of your dump-sms script |
| 23:46.01 | lindi- | orzo: ah and how do you access SMS on your PC? |
| 23:46.01 | orzo | so i can read my smses |
| 23:46.05 | orzo | on the pc, there's an sms gateway from email provided by at&t |
| 23:46.42 | orzo | when the phone replies to that sms, it ends up turning into an email reply back to my inbox |
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| 23:47.01 | lindi- | aha |
| 23:47.10 | lindi- | orzo: can you do IP over SMS? ;) |
| 23:47.15 | orzo | heh |
| 23:47.20 | orzo | theoretically |
| 23:47.52 | orzo | that's some big lag and low bandwidth tho |
| 23:48.00 | SpeedEvil | orzo: the problem is nobodies really - yet - addressed in a nice flexible way - downloading compressed vector data onto handheld devices and exploding it in a nice way |
| 23:48.31 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: there have been several attempts. it is just not that easy |
| 23:48.46 | mjr | I think (not sure) somebody wrote a stack, or at least a terminal over sms 'round here when unlimited sms plans were introduced. They were relatively quickly changed to a four-figure limit and prohibition of automated transmission. |
| 23:48.58 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: I know |
| 23:49.01 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: the trouble is that some people want that the data contains enough info so that you can also edit the map |
| 23:49.09 | orzo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.15 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: I diddn't say it was easy - I said it hadn't been done. |
| 23:49.25 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: the issue isn't really that |
| 23:49.35 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: and yet some want that it'd contain only minimal data |
| 23:49.43 | lindi- | SpeedEvil: and then there's the issue of how to update it |
| 23:49.46 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: compressing in a flexible way isn't really that hard. |
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| 23:50.00 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: the problem is more on the interfacing to the server in a nice clean way. |
| 23:50.02 | orzo | i have way too many projects |
| 23:50.05 | SpeedEvil | lindi-: and displaying the map nice |
| 23:50.10 | lindi- | orzo: we have opencellid.org already |
| 23:50.21 | orzo | do you use that, lindi? |
| 23:50.24 | lindi- | orzo: yep |
| 23:50.26 | badcloud | can anyone point me in the right direction with the whole web browser thing? |
| 23:50.32 | badcloud | other than the crazy house |
| 23:50.43 | lindi- | orzo: it can be nicely used offline when you download the database |
| 23:51.18 | orzo | hi badcloud |
| 23:51.39 | badcloud | hey there, orzo |
| 23:51.55 | orzo | badcloud: if you ran debian, i do have dillo patched and packaged to use your finger or stylus to scroll the browser window |
| 23:51.55 | badcloud | you got me drooling over the prospect of an NES emulator |
| 23:52.09 | lindi- | orzo: please send the patch upstream too |
| 23:52.13 | orzo | no |
| 23:52.14 | badcloud | nuts |
| 23:52.18 | badcloud | I use om 2008.12 |
| 23:52.21 | lindi- | orzo: I can try it if you send me a link |
| 23:52.24 | badcloud | until I get a free weekend |
| 23:52.36 | badcloud | then I'll install debian on my uSD |
| 23:52.39 | orzo | it's already been sent upstream, and its not gona be fused and i agree with that decision. THe patch has some issues |
| 23:52.48 | badcloud | minimo won't install |
| 23:52.50 | orzo | okay lindi |
| 23:53.04 | badcloud | midori won't reveal it's url field |
| 23:53.20 | orzo | http://jerkface.childrenofmay.org/~joe/openmoko/dillo_0.8.6-3iliadem1_armel.deb |
| 23:53.21 | badcloud | and dillo won't get the qtopia keyboard to friggin pop up |
| 23:53.27 | badcloud | thanks |
| 23:53.34 | orzo | that's my dillo package |
| 23:53.40 | badcloud | I'll have to save that for later |
| 23:53.47 | lindi- | orzo: ah but i'd like to get the patch |
| 23:53.51 | orzo | sure |
| 23:53.58 | orzo | http://jerkface.childrenofmay.org/~joe/openmoko/dillo-0.8.6-3-iliad1.patch.gz |
| 23:54.02 | orzo | i didnt originate this patch |
| 23:54.06 | orzo | i found it |
| 23:54.08 | lindi- | orzo: thanks |
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| 23:54.19 | orzo | there might be some description at the top |
| 23:54.24 | lindi- | i hope i have time to test it later |
| 23:54.32 | orzo | oh hm |
| 23:54.39 | mwester | would regard anything fetched from a URL like that with great suspicion. |
| 23:54.48 | orzo | i origniated the patch to debian package, i just didnt originate the illiad support |
| 23:55.09 | orzo | heheh |
| 23:57.02 | orzo | hatches evil plans to own badcould's box with his special nes emulator |
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| 23:57.52 | orzo | i have an idea for a decent touchpad game controller too |
| 23:57.58 | orzo | for simulating multitouch |
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| 23:59.07 | orzo | badcloud: you really should learn to program and finish off the emulator for us |
| 23:59.18 | badcloud | invites orzo over for tea and chronic puffing |
| 23:59.35 | badcloud | I've always wanted to learn to program |
| 23:59.39 | badcloud | start simple, etc |
| 23:59.55 | orzo | simple, schmimple |
