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| 00:14.02 | kgoetz | rwhitby, hello. I've lost a USB stick, I was wondering if I it in your server room on the desk we worked at |
| 00:14.34 | rwhitby | kgoetz: I'll have a look - hang on. |
| 00:15.31 | kgoetz | Its blue, 1GB |
| 00:16.41 | _charly_ | don't forget to mention the top secret data on it ;) |
| 00:17.19 | rwhitby | kgoetz: yep, I have it here. |
| 00:17.25 | kgoetz | _charly_, oh yes! (the top secret data is an OM 2007.12 image and an OLPC XO b1840 imgae :P) |
| 00:17.38 | kgoetz | rwhitby, phew. |
| 00:18.22 | rwhitby | kgoetz: I'm here except for 2:30 to 4:30. |
| 00:18.53 | kgoetz | rwhitby, I'll ask Joel if he'd mind looking after it for me - I should see him next thurs, but dont expect to be in town before that |
| 00:19.04 | rwhitby | ok, I'll give it to Joel. |
| 00:20.05 | kgoetz | thanks a lot! |
| 00:21.16 | SpeedEvil | http://hosting.reliccommunity.com/uploads/233/20090202210933-tarsier.jpg |
| 00:21.40 | SpeedEvil | On O'Reilly books. |
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| 00:23.27 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * r50015a6853ef 10/ (src/main.vala vapi/posix.vapi vapi/posixextra.vapi): |
| 00:23.27 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: posix signal wrapper has been accepted upstream; update vapis and prepare for next upstream |
| 00:23.27 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: submission |
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| 00:45.04 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * re897072aaa40 10/ (Makefile.am src/serial.vala): add class encapsulating a serial port |
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| 00:58.36 | slaxxin | fso is looking better |
| 00:58.44 | slaxxin | slowly:) |
| 00:59.00 | mickeyl | :D |
| 01:00.04 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.57 | slaxxin | Dave |
| 01:01.11 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:15.27 | bove2 | fso and shr on sd cards both stops an angstrom screen. Any ideas? |
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| 01:23.43 | mickeyl | this has been discussed on the list |
| 01:23.51 | mickeyl | something with rw partition |
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| 01:27.41 | slaxxin | david duke the complete racist |
| 01:31.11 | slaxxin | whats the first words out of the mouth af an athist that just got a brokrn leg? |
| 01:31.20 | slaxxin | OMG |
| 01:31.22 | cjb | "fuck"? |
| 01:33.57 | raster | i'd vote for "fuck" |
| 01:34.03 | raster | then repeated by several more of them |
| 01:35.03 | doc|home | I'd got with "Aaaarrggghhh!!" |
| 01:35.07 | doc|home | but maybe that's just me |
| 01:35.35 | raster | i've broken arms 3 times |
| 01:35.42 | raster | its definitely "fuck" |
| 01:35.48 | raster | atleast with arms it is |
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| 01:36.24 | doc|home | hehe |
| 01:39.35 | slaxxin | how u break your arm 3 times? |
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| 01:39.49 | slaxxin | racing motorcycles:) |
| 01:40.07 | slaxxin | polo? |
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| 01:49.03 | raster | slaxxin: falling off trees twice |
| 01:49.15 | raster | off a bike another time |
| 01:49.20 | raster | actually broke my elbow too |
| 01:49.22 | raster | a 4th one |
| 01:49.24 | losinggeneration | on shr, I found the config file that can stop the backlight from being dimmed/turned off, but is there gui for setting it? (and after setting it I wasn't sure what needed to be done, X restarted, or just a service) |
| 01:49.27 | raster | that was rollerblading |
| 01:49.49 | raster | thansk to the gf dragging me down because she couldnt stand still/stop |
| 01:50.03 | raster | so the obvious solution is "grab onto boyfriend and pull him over" |
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| 02:06.43 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * r66ab2945d6a1 10/src/ (channel.vala serial.vala): use the new serial / pty abstraction |
| 02:09.06 | losinggeneration | after you change /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml how do you get them to take effect? |
| 02:10.41 | losinggeneration | ohhh, restarted frameworkd and it worked (thought I tried that the first time) |
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| 02:22.10 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03werner * r4911 10/developers/werner/wlan/freeze/4if/ (. HW run): |
| 02:22.10 | CIA-49 | openmoko: After the AP setup didn't pan out, replace them with PCI cards all in |
| 02:22.10 | CIA-49 | openmoko: the same PC. This is much better but still has some quirks ... |
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| 02:29.06 | ttols | I tried to excute "openmoko/download.sh". but the installation eventually broke with "Kernel is ... not found" message. |
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| 02:49.19 | Toaster` | Is there any lead on SHR unstable getting a handle on e using over 20% cpu at all times? Or is it a larger e issue? |
| 02:49.36 | Toaster` | That's a general questions, not an accusation |
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| 03:00.53 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * r6d827db37601 10/ (README src/multiplexer.vala src/server.vala): send dbus signal on channel serial status change |
| 03:00.54 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * r57e40ef67845 10/ (gsm0710/gsm0710_p.h src/multiplexer.vala vapi/gsm0710.vapi): add RING line to serial status |
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| 03:27.19 | kgoetz | rwhitby, what was the image you installed on my FR called? I'd like to download the images so I can re-do it here if neede |
| 03:29.38 | rwhitby | kgoetz: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5/om-gta02/ <- choose uImage and fso-image |
| 03:29.51 | kgoetz | thanks |
| 03:29.55 | rwhitby | discussion for that distro happens in #openmoko-cdevel |
| 03:30.07 | kgoetz | which i dont seem to be in - oops. |
| 03:30.39 | rwhitby | I guess it happens in here too. |
| 03:31.06 | rwhitby | And now that Openmoko have effectively said that FSO is replacing Om.200x, then this channel will probably become the FSO channel ;-) |
| 03:33.32 | kgoetz | :) |
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| 04:00.24 | d-b | hi there anyone got android actually working -> like i turn the sim pin off and... still no luck android wants one... |
| 04:01.05 | ColdFyre | i can't get it to register at all |
| 04:01.25 | d-b | ColdFyre: oh ? |
| 04:03.08 | ColdFyre | yup |
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| 04:03.27 | ColdFyre | well, i lied, it registers for one second, then loses it |
| 04:03.40 | d-b | how did you get it to not wan the sim pin ? |
| 04:03.42 | d-b | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.06 | ColdFyre | it never wanted one to begin with |
| 04:04.11 | d-b | oh.... really |
| 04:04.25 | d-b | can you 'see' the sim contacts ? |
| 04:05.01 | d-b | it doesn't see any from my sim |
| 04:05.12 | ColdFyre | no, i oculd never figure out how to see them |
| 04:05.31 | d-b | meh did you work out how to set dns ? |
| 04:05.51 | d-b | actually is there some one here who could help me mount the android jffs2 image in rw mode... i can't edit it -> and this would be useful |
| 04:05.52 | ColdFyre | i reflashed with shr, because it was not working :) |
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| 04:09.05 | Shlee | Flashing my FR is making some awesome chiptune like beeps on my radio.. |
| 04:09.12 | Shlee | should record this.. |
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| 04:12.32 | slaxxin | that cant be good |
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| 04:14.24 | d-b | oh wow they released beta3 and i didn't know it ... |
| 04:14.29 | d-b | FSCK! |
| 04:14.31 | d-b | mad. |
| 04:15.18 | cjb | oh, for android? |
| 04:15.25 | cjb | man, I just released to fsom5 |
| 04:15.41 | d-b | yeah |
| 04:17.29 | d-b | got released on the 4th of feb 2009 2;29pm not sure what time that is... |
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| 04:19.32 | Shlee | d-b: url? |
| 04:19.53 | d-b | http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files |
| 04:20.13 | ttols | :) thanks |
| 04:20.19 | d-b | i hope they got dns to work now... |
| 04:20.27 | Shlee | Cupcake enabled? |
| 04:20.33 | d-b | no idea. |
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| 04:23.21 | Shlee | Doesn't look like it. |
| 04:23.23 | d-b | mmm i would still like to modify the jffs2 image |
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| 04:24.00 | d-b | so i can get it to use a real ip range instead of this 192.168.0.* crap which i use for my network and i keep getting annoyed with. like why can't they use something that no one uses like 172.0.0.* |
| 04:27.30 | slaxxin | Once started, can not stop GPS |
| 04:27.38 | slaxxin | wow |
| 04:28.34 | orzo | hello |
| 04:28.39 | orzo | i'm having a hard time |
| 04:28.47 | orzo | my keyboard setup is totally borked |
| 04:28.54 | orzo | im using matchbox-keyboard |
| 04:29.19 | orzo | when i press p once, it makes a p, but then I have to hit space to prevent it from doing something crazy on the next key press |
| 04:29.23 | slaxxin | is it 2008.9? |
| 04:29.24 | orzo | same with a lot of the letters |
| 04:29.28 | orzo | debian |
| 04:29.53 | orzo | the usb keyboard is messed up too |
| 04:30.08 | orzo | although in not exactly the same way |
| 04:30.53 | orzo | i'm rebooting now |
| 04:31.09 | orzo | rebooting used to fix the usb keyboard |
| 04:31.12 | orzo | it doesnt now |
| 04:31.32 | slaxxin | ap-get-filesystem |
| 04:31.53 | orzo | hm? |
| 04:31.54 | slaxxin | t |
| 04:32.00 | slaxxin | sorry |
| 04:32.16 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.35 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.47 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:33.14 | orzo | okay, just booted |
| 04:33.20 | orzo | got a terminal up in X |
| 04:33.27 | orzo | starting matchbox-keyboard |
| 04:33.35 | orzo | hiting a p |
| 04:33.40 | orzo | it typed a p |
| 04:33.41 | slaxxin | i had debian working at first then i borked it a couple a times |
| 04:33.43 | orzo | hitting a p again |
| 04:33.56 | orzo | it changed the p it already typed to the word "exit" |
| 04:34.26 | slaxxin | wat? |
| 04:34.41 | slaxxin | quick keys? |
| 04:34.45 | orzo | maybe it typed an up or down arrow at the prompt |
| 04:34.51 | orzo | i dont know |
| 04:34.53 | slaxxin | yyeaA |
| 04:34.58 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.00 | orzo | but typing "pp" does not make "pp" at the prompt |
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| 04:35.14 | orzo | what's what? |
| 04:35.26 | slaxxin | so are u going to fix it or reinstall?] |
| 04:35.34 | orzo | i'd much rather fix |
| 04:35.44 | orzo | but i dont know how |
| 04:36.05 | slaxxin | it prolylike u said entered a up arrow |
| 04:36.35 | orzo | ya but i dont know how to fix it |
| 04:36.48 | orzo | p is not the only letter that is broken |
| 04:36.55 | orzo | almost all teh keys are screwed up |
| 04:37.04 | orzo | they type themselves once and then they type crazy |
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| 04:37.38 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.08 | slaxxin | maybe the touch screen is worn out |
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| 04:38.46 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03werner * r4912 10/developers/werner/badnand/ (. Makefile README badnand.c mtd-abi.h nbad.c): Somewhat crude BBT dumping tool. |
| 04:38.47 | slaxxin | surly theres not a sensetivity setting in debian for touchscreen |
| 04:39.10 | orzo | the touch screen is working fine |
| 04:39.37 | jeffszusz | :) hey fellas, are we any closer to me (a non-developer) forking over some cash and getting a working phone? |
| 04:40.00 | slaxxin | sure |
| 04:40.17 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.32 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.54 | jeffszusz | really? good as in it makes calls and sends SMS messages reliably? |
| 04:41.11 | slaxxin | smss are soon to be here |
| 04:41.27 | slaxxin | proly are already |
| 04:41.36 | slaxxin | i dont use them |
| 04:42.18 | slaxxin | i call using att with no problems |
| 04:42.39 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.24 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.50 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.55 | slaxxin | the applicalions are being built |
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| 04:45.36 | slaxxin | - |
| 04:46.33 | Shlee | jeff: if you can use the australian friendly FR.. I'll sell you mine for cheaper |
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| 04:57.30 | Dave | Slaxxin, and yes I am still using 2007 :D |
| 04:57.40 | Dave | and, oh snap, it's orzo :) |
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| 05:09.58 | orzo | ya |
| 05:10.15 | orzo | do you really want me to build you an altoids adapter? |
| 05:13.39 | slaxxin | o no 2008.12 failed finally |
| 05:13.49 | slaxxin | i cant believe it |
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| 05:14.28 | Dave | orzo, will it cost much? |
| 05:14.41 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.43 | Dave | slaxxin, and I still can't believe it's not butter! |
| 05:14.45 | Dave | meh |
| 05:15.00 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:15.03 | Dave | what happened? anti-gravity? or divided-by-zero? |
| 05:15.11 | Dave | :P |
| 05:15.16 | slaxxin | no come up |
| 05:15.22 | slaxxin | black screen |
| 05:15.22 | Dave | died? |
| 05:15.24 | Dave | hahaha |
| 05:15.27 | Dave | awesome |
| 05:15.27 | orzo | Dave: iduno, 50 bucks? |
| 05:15.31 | Dave | shit |
| 05:15.53 | slaxxin | make 1 outa steelputty |
| 05:16.19 | slaxxin | with a 3 inch cord |
| 05:18.25 | slaxxin | popped the battery out |
| 05:18.46 | Dave | boing |
| 05:19.04 | slaxxin | i had gps come in an out of suspend several times prior |
| 05:19.14 | Shlee | Flashing SHR has hit the 90 minute mark.. has to be a better option |
| 05:19.38 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.40 | Dave | o_O |
| 05:19.54 | slaxxin | its the host |
| 05:19.58 | Dave | wtf ARE you using? a plastic coathanger with aluminum foil? |
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| 05:20.06 | Dave | :D |
| 05:20.24 | slaxxin | THIN foil |
| 05:20.35 | Dave | apparently more like fail foil |
| 05:20.38 | Dave | ¬_¬ |
| 05:20.57 | slaxxin | shr takes 22 minuits or less |
| 05:21.15 | slaxxin | bad file? |
| 05:21.40 | Shlee | I'm using a windows xp machine.. :S |
| 05:21.54 | Dave | maybe the cable? |
| 05:22.04 | Dave | try a different one if you can |
| 05:22.22 | slaxxin | anyone tried a slax cd yet? |
| 05:22.39 | Dave | heh :p |
| 05:22.47 | slaxxin | im going to try i guess |
| 05:22.53 | Dave | So THAT'S what it's all about... |
| 05:22.59 | Dave | I'm on to you, slaxin... |
| 05:23.25 | slaxxin | watch out,,, be carefull |
| 05:23.29 | slaxxin | :) |
| 05:23.41 | slaxxin | yaank |
| 05:24.14 | slaxxin | that was funny on idol when he said that |
| 05:24.26 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.11 | slaxxin | when the guy was only being polite |
| 05:25.27 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.23 | slaxxin | no the nick is from counterstrike |
| 05:26.58 | Dave | haha |
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| 05:28.09 | slaxxer | the lazy cs player |
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| 05:33.50 | losinggeneration | ttols: did you figure out how to get download.sh to work? |
| 05:44.39 | orzo | i fixed the keyboard |
| 05:44.55 | orzo | downgrading xkb-data to 1.3 fixed it |
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| 06:00.30 | ttols | losinggeneration: yes! thx :) |
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| 06:01.52 | Shlee | The flashing right light is a good thing right? |
| 06:02.06 | Shlee | Means the battery atleast has enough power to know its flat? |
| 06:02.13 | Shlee | and is going to charge? |
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| 06:03.00 | slaxxer | naaaa |
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| 06:03.11 | slaxxer | kernel panic |
| 06:03.43 | slaxxer | shlee u have problems like this all the time? |
| 06:04.09 | Shlee | I'm going to say. No |
| 06:04.30 | Shlee | reflashes kernel |
| 06:04.36 | slaxxer | is it possible to erase the badd blocks table on the freerunner? |
| 06:05.39 | slaxxer | what u using now? |
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| 06:06.34 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:07.22 | slaxxer | someone said that shr on 0129 was bad is that right? |
| 06:08.13 | slaxxer | i was thinking since they are soo close to releasing that things would be close |
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| 06:09.44 | Shlee | I've flashed SHR 20090129.. so makes sense *blast* |
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| 06:14.43 | slaxxer | so it works ok? |
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| 06:15.33 | ccfly | hello :) |
| 06:15.43 | slaxxer | sms is what the users want |
| 06:15.57 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.17 | slaxxer | except this user |
| 06:26.08 | slaxxer | infiltration is microsofts game now |
| 06:26.17 | slaxxer | beware |
| 06:26.54 | doc|home | eh? |
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| 06:30.10 | slaxxer | http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090205/tc_pcworld/microsoftmaygoopensourcewithdanger |
| 06:30.28 | raster | infiltrates and destroys all before him.... MUHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 06:37.08 | slaxxer | google latitude for freerunner would be nice |
| 06:37.34 | slaxxer | is that what locations is going to be? |
| 06:37.50 | slaxxer | or tango? |
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| 06:38.37 | ronny | slaxxer: tangogps can do |
| 06:39.58 | slaxxer | great |
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| 07:07.18 | ttols | I'm using Om2008.12's images. then I run "make qemu" |
| 07:07.22 | ttols | qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x00000004 |
| 07:07.41 | ttols | this is u-boot error message. |
| 07:08.37 | ttols | maybe I have to modify flash.sh. but I have no idea |
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| 07:25.51 | ttols | U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (Jan 20 2009 - 09:14:08) |
| 07:25.51 | ttols | I2C: ready |
| 07:25.51 | ttols | DRAM: 128 MB |
| 07:25.51 | ttols | NAND: 64 MiB |
| 07:25.51 | ttols | Found Environment offset in OOB.. |
| 07:25.52 | ttols | Video: 640x480x8 31kHz 59Hz |
| 07:25.54 | ttols | NAND read: device 0 offset 0x244000, size 0x5000 |
| 07:25.56 | ttols | Reading data from 0x248e00 -- 100% complete. |
| 07:25.58 | ttols | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.00 | ttols | USB: S3C2410 USB Deviced |
| 07:26.02 | ttols | In: serial |
| 07:26.04 | ttols | Out: serial |
| 07:26.06 | ttols | Err: serial |
| 07:26.08 | ttols | pcf_write: charging in Qualification Mode. |
| 07:26.10 | ttols | pcf_write: charge voltage 4.20V. |
| 07:26.12 | ttols | neo_lcd_rst_switch: LCD reset. |
| 07:26.14 | ttols | jbt6k74_command: Display on. |
| 07:26.16 | ttols | neo_vib_switch: Buzz, buzz. |
| 07:26.18 | ttols | neo_vib_switch: Vibrator stopped. |
| 07:26.20 | ttols | neo_bl_switch: LCD Backlight now on. |
| 07:26.22 | ttols | GTA01Bv4 # |
| 07:26.24 | ttols | GTA01Bv4 # |
| 07:26.26 | ttols | GTA01Bv4 # nand write.e 0x30100000 kernel 0x1b2980 |
| 07:26.28 | ttols | NAND write: device 0 offset 0x44000, size 0x1b2980 |
| 07:26.30 | ttols | Writing data at 0x1f6800 -- 100% complete. |
| 07:26.32 | ttols | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.34 | ttols | GTA01Bv4 # neo1973 power-off |
| 07:26.36 | ttols | poweroff |
| 07:26.38 | ttols | pcf_write: Power-off requested. |
| 07:26.40 | ttols | openmoko/flash.sh: line 125: 11195 Terminated ( sleep $2; kill $pid; sleep 1; kill -KILL $pid ) (wd: ~/ë°ííë©´/openmoko/build/qemu) |
| 07:26.43 | ttols | Please wait, programming the NAND flash... |
| 07:26.45 | ttols | qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x00000004 |
| 07:26.47 | ttols | sorry to attachment on this channel. |
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| 07:55.25 | gfather | hello guys |
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| 08:01.21 | walker | hey. when building SHR, is testing or unstable most usable? someone told me unstable... |
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| 08:09.21 | doc|home | so, I've shr on my phone and it was fully charged when I switched it off last week. I switch it on now and the battery's dead |
| 08:09.33 | doc|home | sorry, not dead, empty |
| 08:10.12 | gfather | doc|home u cant boot now ? |
| 08:10.38 | gfather | try to use usb ot charge ? |
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| 08:11.27 | doc|home | gfather: no, it booted, but immediately flashed up a battery low warning |
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| 08:11.50 | gfather | doc|home just charge it then :) |
| 08:12.06 | doc|home | yeah, but it was powered off |
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| 08:13.36 | gfather | well batteries loos charging in time , i tested this on normal chargable batteries ., after chargerging them , i left it for like 1 or 2 weaks , and it was dead , so this is normal |
| 08:14.20 | doc|home | yeah, but it shouldn't be :/ |
| 08:15.05 | gfather | i told you , thats normal :) |
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| 08:21.20 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 08:22.23 | walker | good morning |
| 08:23.04 | ccfly | 1 week discharge or Li-Ion battery is a bit excessive |
| 08:23.25 | walker | any SHR builders? |
| 08:23.26 | ccfly | so I wonder what battery low warning actually meant in this case |
| 08:23.51 | ccfly | voltmeter would come in handy :> |
| 08:24.06 | gfather | ccfly maybe the phone will explode :D |
| 08:26.27 | ccfly | feed the paranoia :P |
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| 08:31.48 | gfather | <ccfly> :P |
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| 08:32.05 | methril | morning |
| 08:35.08 | gfather | morning m8 |
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| 08:44.14 | gfather | when is fso or shr new image ? |
| 08:47.38 | soul9 | gfather: every day |
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| 08:49.53 | walker | any software using the accelerometer? |
| 08:51.10 | soul9 | there is a light sabre software |
| 08:51.35 | soul9 | there also was an automatic screen rotating app, but i don't think it works now...someone should pick it up again... |
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| 08:57.05 | ttols | GTA01Bv4 # bootm 30100000 |
| 08:57.05 | ttols | ## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 30100000 ... |
| 08:57.05 | ttols | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.05 | ttols | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.05 | ttols | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.06 | ttols | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.08 | ttols | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.10 | ttols | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.12 | ttols | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.14 | ttols | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.16 | ttols | OK |
| 08:57.18 | ttols | ERROR: image overwritten - must RESET the board to recover. |
| 08:58.12 | ttols | my bootloader (u-boot) is working now. :) |
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| 11:10.41 | gfather | shr milstone 5 released ? |
| 11:11.06 | Tig| | yes the other day |
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| 11:13.07 | gfather | Tig| link ? |
| 11:13.30 | Tig| | oh wait SHR |
| 11:13.35 | Tig| | sorry was thinking FSO |
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| 11:14.20 | Tig| | SHR has not hit MS1 yet |
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| 11:15.07 | gfather | yes , seems i was confuced between them to :) |
| 11:15.26 | gfather | <Tig|>whats the link to fso milestone 5 |
| 11:16.04 | gfather | foud it :) |
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| 11:18.26 | Tig| | http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5/ |
| 11:19.16 | gfather | damn i always get confused in which , there is fso-illume-image-om-gta02.jffs2 //// fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 /// openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 //// and openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 11:19.41 | henk | it's on the wiki page which is which |
| 11:20.03 | gfather | henk where |
| 11:20.19 | gfather | and wiki is very good in hiding pages :) |
| 11:20.59 | ccfly | that's not true, outdated pages are easily accessible ;) |
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| 11:21.32 | henk | gfather: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/Status_Update_6 |
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| 11:22.56 | gfather | thanks :) |
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| 11:27.50 | badcloud | anyone know how large the png's are in shr? I want to try to make a utility or two |
| 11:37.35 | badcloud | 32x32 px (found it myself) |
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| 12:06.20 | kd8ikt | mornin |
| 12:07.48 | kd8ikt | i forget what date build i have of shr but it rox |
| 12:08.00 | kd8ikt | suspend works like a charm |
| 12:08.56 | kd8ikt | although i get a lil upset when it falls asleep while i'm GPS'ing |
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| 12:09.32 | shanka | hi. I am trying to compile the dictd server for openmoko. I encountered an error: "configure: error: 'yacc' is missing on your system. You can get `bison' from any GNU archive site." |
| 12:09.59 | shanka | so I tried with "opkg-target install bison" from my PC. And bison installed. |
| 12:10.01 | kd8ikt | guess what you need to install? |
| 12:10.14 | shanka | still I'm getting the same erro |
| 12:10.18 | shanka | error* |
| 12:11.03 | kd8ikt | hm |
| 12:11.05 | shanka | I'm compiling using the toolchain, following the steps at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Building_a_sample_project |
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| 12:13.01 | kd8ikt | yacc? |
| 12:13.13 | kd8ikt | yet another C compiler |
| 12:13.15 | shanka | kd8ikt: there's no package called yacc |
| 12:13.31 | shanka | kd8ikt: only bison and it seems to be the replacement for yacc |
| 12:14.20 | shanka | I've downloaded the dictd source from debian packages and I'm compiling on my PC. I use "om-conf dictd-1.10.2" |
| 12:14.20 | shanka | and then I get this error |
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| 12:16.01 | kd8ikt | what OS are you using? |
| 12:16.10 | Nobody96 | moin |
| 12:16.38 | shanka | kd8ikt: Ubuntu 8.10 |
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| 12:17.06 | shanka | kd8ikt: oh I just did "sudo apt-get install bison" and that error is gone.. |
| 12:17.39 | shanka | hmm but the error I get when I do om-conf is supposed to be related to opkg rather than apt-get right? |
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| 12:18.08 | kd8ikt | apt-get build-dep ditcd ? |
| 12:20.01 | shanka | kd8ikt: now it compiles properly. thanks. |
| 12:20.13 | kd8ikt | :D |
| 12:20.26 | kd8ikt | no offense but i dont think i care for your nick |
| 12:20.39 | kd8ikt | shank? like jail knife? |
| 12:21.16 | kd8ikt | are you livin the thug life? |
| 12:21.29 | shanka | kd8ikt: lol no. |
| 12:22.18 | shanka | kd8ikt: although that would be fun, shoplifting. Implies I don't have to pay for anything! |
| 12:23.43 | kd8ikt | so fsao milestone 5 hasw been reached eh |
| 12:24.08 | kd8ikt | ugh oh their just a few releases away from world domination |
| 12:24.37 | kd8ikt | http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5/ |
| 12:34.23 | gecco | yaouh 0.3 is out http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! |
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| 12:37.10 | kd8ikt | i like that opencycle map |
| 12:37.31 | kd8ikt | even though its been like 5 years since i touched a bike |
| 12:37.47 | kd8ikt | the map rox shows like every street |
| 12:38.25 | dns53 | it is the best looking map from osm |
| 12:38.41 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07fso-monitord * rf2d740f2e1f4 10/src/ (logger.vala monitor.vala): Changed Logger API |
| 12:38.42 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07fso-monitord * r24d31b2c9d67 10/src/ (logger.vala monitor.vala): added struct, list and array methods to logger |
| 12:38.43 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07fso-monitord * ra97fe96b70fb 10/src/ (logger.vala monitor.vala): |
| 12:38.44 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: added indentation in logfile to make logs more readable |
| 12:38.45 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: fixed PowerSupply signal name PowerSupply |
| 12:38.47 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07fso-monitord * rfa80255d1547 10/src/monitor.vala: |
| 12:38.49 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: removed double PowerSupply object |
| 12:38.51 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: removed unused methods |
| 12:38.53 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07fso-monitord * redad64af9f8c 10/src/monitor.vala: |
| 12:38.55 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: Added verbosity for creating object |
| 12:38.57 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: Fixxed some typos during creating DBus object in PowerControl.* |
| 12:38.59 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07fso-monitord * r7ac97194dcd6 10/src/logger.vala: fixed indentation in logfile |
| 12:39.08 | playya | wow. really fast :) |
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| 12:46.05 | gfather | fso m5 really takes time to boot :) |
| 12:47.10 | kd8ikt | 1st boot? or |
| 12:47.14 | gfather | ues |
| 12:47.17 | gfather | yes |
| 12:47.26 | kd8ikt | well thats sorta expected |
| 12:47.52 | gfather | yes , but i hpe restarting is more faster |
| 12:48.15 | kd8ikt | why? if suspend works you shouldnt have to ever reboot it :D |
| 12:48.22 | gfather | :) |
| 12:48.26 | kd8ikt | or atleast very often |
| 12:48.38 | gfather | ahh i didnt choose anything at start up |
| 12:48.50 | kd8ikt | i'm so stoked i was amazed that lately suspend has been working fine |
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| 12:51.08 | gfather | how can i restart the setting thing that shows on first boot |
| 12:51.31 | kd8ikt | the illume theme /language setup? |
| 12:51.51 | gfather | yah |
| 12:51.53 | kd8ikt | rm ~/.e* -r should do it then restart X |
| 12:52.13 | kd8ikt | did you fat finger it? |
| 12:52.39 | kd8ikt | (typo) |
| 12:54.01 | gfather | yes :) |
| 12:54.55 | gfather | restart X dont work ? |
| 12:55.09 | kd8ikt | /etc/init.d/xsomething restart |
| 12:55.10 | gfather | or u meen normall restart |
| 12:55.15 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07fso-monitord * rbfd6438cb202 10/src/ (logger.vala monitor.vala): |
| 12:55.15 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: added some missing end() calls |
| 12:55.15 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: removed double \n in logfile |
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| 12:55.55 | kd8ikt | sry i figured you knew how to restart things like X |
| 12:56.35 | gfather | no :) |
| 12:57.20 | gfather | still has stuff that i dont know , beocuse i learned linux on my own |
| 12:57.40 | gfather | so im trying to read books to complete the unkown stuff for me |
| 12:57.55 | ccfly | gfather: yes first boot is much slower than normal boots will be |
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| 12:58.13 | kd8ikt | has to setup things like dbus and whatnot |
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| 12:58.50 | kd8ikt | but /etc/init.d/ startup scripts |
| 12:59.22 | kd8ikt | like dropbear is the ssh client and whatever x's startup filename is (i need to login to my phone) |
| 12:59.32 | gfather | just restarted normally :) |
| 12:59.44 | kd8ikt | BAH |
| 12:59.58 | kd8ikt | only windows needs to be restarted constantly :D |
| 13:00.04 | gfather | yes i know |
| 13:00.11 | gfather | i hate that thing now :) |
| 13:00.21 | gfather | though some software are needed on it |
| 13:00.21 | kd8ikt | oh you want to change the screensaver timeout? RESTAR WINDOWS NOW |
| 13:00.34 | gfather | hehehe |
| 13:00.40 | kd8ikt | :D i'm funny i should do standup |
| 13:00.46 | gfather | yes |
| 13:01.09 | kd8ikt | that specializes in technology |
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| 13:05.15 | toggles_w | ~TED curator Chris Anderson quipped that when a video of the talk is posted on its website it would be headlined "Gates releases more bugs into the world." |
| 13:05.15 | apt | toggles_w: that's too long |
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| 13:12.16 | badcloud | bugpost: sms's which include the symbol '&' in the text body cannot be read fully (past and including the symbol. the unseen text can be read from the messages view, but not when viewing the *single* message) |
| 13:12.38 | badcloud | *'messages' view |
| 13:12.45 | SpeedEvil | sms's which contain the symbols &rm -rf / |
| 13:12.49 | SpeedEvil | are really bad news |
| 13:12.55 | SpeedEvil | (probably not really) |
| 13:12.57 | badcloud | yes they are |
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| 13:12.59 | kd8ikt | i need to fix my bluetooth headset and test it out |
| 13:13.25 | badcloud | would any of you know the correct resolution for pngs on shr? |
| 13:13.33 | badcloud | the new one I'm using doesn't feel right |
| 13:13.52 | badcloud | I'm using a new one which is 32x32 pixels |
| 13:13.53 | SpeedEvil | I recall someone saying 32*32 a bit ago |
| 13:13.58 | badcloud | that was me |
| 13:14.01 | SpeedEvil | Oh - I think it was you. |
| 13:14.08 | badcloud | but I'm not as sure now |
| 13:15.12 | badcloud | how would one get the resolution readout from one of the /usr/share/pixmaps files? |
| 13:15.51 | badcloud | sheeyit, I'm am running things close in my schedule today |
| 13:16.03 | kd8ikt | didnt the G1 have sms issues like that? |
| 13:16.29 | kd8ikt | sms exploit |
| 13:16.40 | SpeedEvil | badcloud: I'd pngtopnm foo.png >test.pnm |
| 13:16.50 | SpeedEvil | head -2 test.pnm |
| 13:17.35 | SpeedEvil | the second line is x and y res |
| 13:17.39 | badcloud | I'll try and report later |
| 13:17.48 | ZaPPaS | badcloud: file /usr/share/pixmaps/zhone.png /usr/share/pixmaps/tangogps.png /usr/share/pixmaps/bass.png |
| 13:17.48 | ZaPPaS | /usr/share/pixmaps/zhone.png: PNG image data, 128 x 128, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced |
| 13:17.48 | ZaPPaS | /usr/share/pixmaps/tangogps.png: PNG image data, 128 x 128, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced |
| 13:17.48 | ZaPPaS | /usr/share/pixmaps/bass.png: PNG image data, 20 x 20, 16-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced |
| 13:18.08 | badcloud | or not |
| 13:18.13 | badcloud | thanks, ZaPPaS |
| 13:18.47 | SpeedEvil | oh - file. |
| 13:18.51 | ZaPPaS | ;) |
| 13:18.51 | SpeedEvil | How obvious. |
| 13:19.12 | badcloud | so it vaires |
| 13:19.15 | badcloud | *varies |
| 13:19.19 | badcloud | anyways, gotta go |
| 13:19.26 | badcloud | later |
| 13:25.07 | kd8ikt | how do i get fso-gpsd to listen on all interfaces port 08:21 < Poster> sweet |
| 13:25.20 | kd8ikt | err port 2947 i think it is |
| 13:28.38 | kd8ikt | etc/init.d/fso-gpsd methinks |
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| 13:37.33 | henk | kd8ikt: correct |
| 13:37.48 | kd8ikt | i broke it |
| 13:37.55 | henk | good |
| 13:38.13 | kd8ikt | :D |
| 13:38.24 | henk | how? |
| 13:38.41 | kd8ikt | -S localhost:gpsd |
| 13:38.46 | kd8ikt | removed it |
| 13:39.00 | kd8ikt | and now its complaining about no pid file or something and wont start |
| 13:39.12 | henk | only remove the 'localhost:' part |
| 13:39.15 | henk | then try again |
| 13:39.15 | kd8ikt | but just firing up fso-gpsd seemed to work |
| 13:40.04 | spaetz | or -S 0.0.0.0.:gpsd ? |
| 13:40.05 | kd8ikt | line 40: /var/run/fso-gpsd.pid: not found |
| 13:40.21 | kd8ikt | why should that matter shouldnt it just create that file |
| 13:40.38 | kd8ikt | guess i could remove the pid stuff |
| 13:41.04 | henk | don't do stuff you have no clue about... |
| 13:41.22 | kd8ikt | i have a clue about pid files |
| 13:41.49 | kd8ikt | just a file with the proccess pid number |
| 13:41.49 | henk | yes, but you shouldn't just remove that stuff about pid files. |
| 13:42.03 | henk | fix your problem. it has nothing to do with pid files. |
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| 13:54.14 | CIA-49 | openmoko: 03john_lee * r4913 10/trunk/src/host/toolchain-scripts/bin/om-make-ipkg: for #2228. |
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| 14:09.28 | PaulFertser | Hey, is anyone here running FSO/SHR with ogsmd DEBUG? lindi- ? |
| 14:09.50 | lindi- | PaulFertser: i run debian with ogsmd |
| 14:10.30 | PaulFertser | lindi-: could you please tell me whether you have seen TIMEOUT in your log? |
| 14:10.50 | PaulFertser | lindi-: like this one: 2009.02.05 13:28:37 ogsmd.channel DEBUG <MiscChannel via /dev/pts/1>: TIMEOUT 'AT%EM=2,3' => ??? |
| 14:11.08 | lindi- | PaulFertser: Feb 2 21:48:30 ginger user.debug ogsmd.channel DEBUG <MiscChannel via /dev/pts/3>: TIMEOUT 'AT+CGACT=0;+CGATT=0' => ??? |
| 14:11.32 | lindi- | <MiscChannel via /dev/pts/3>: _readyToRead: watch timeout = None |
| 14:11.32 | lindi- | <MiscChannel via /dev/pts/3>: got 6 bytes from: '\r\nOK\r\n' |
| 14:11.32 | lindi- | annel WARNING UNHANDLED INTERMEDIATE: OK |
| 14:11.46 | lindi- | PaulFertser: so it did not wait long enough for "OK" |
| 14:12.11 | lindi- | PaulFertser: http://iki.fi/lindi/tmp/debug-stops-working/syslog |
| 14:12.25 | PaulFertser | lindi-: but it's this particular case. What about the others? I've plenty of real timeouts in my log. I'll look into yours. |
| 14:13.40 | lindi- | PaulFertser: at least no other saved log seems to have it |
| 14:14.16 | PaulFertser | lindi-: probably that has something to do with the fact you run gsm0710muxd under strace... Wanna see my log? |
| 14:14.27 | lindi- | PaulFertser: sure |
| 14:14.42 | lindi- | PaulFertser: strace should not be _that_ slow anyway, it is not writing to SD or anything |
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| 14:15.49 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i think my issues has something to do with the sleeping calypso and some extra 0.2s probably is enough for it. |
| 14:16.38 | PaulFertser | lindi-: sorry for slow speed (6799KB) https://paulfertser.is-a-geek.org/frameworkd.log |
| 14:17.38 | PaulFertser | lindi-: my last frameworkd start is with wakeup timer resetting only on data from CPU to calypso (that is, i disabled resetting timer on incoming data). And i had no TIMEOUT since then. |
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| 14:24.17 | PaulFertser | lindi-: and, btw, while i was cycling 20 minutes ago, somebody called me (i received a message from cell operator) but my phone was "out of coverage"... Probably it has something to do with temperature outside (-7C) . So many uncool problems :-/ |
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| 14:29.15 | lindi- | PaulFertser: i have been using this in -15 :) |
| 14:30.43 | Cervajz | Hello there |
| 14:30.50 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i too, wrote an SMS on monday outside. And it worked without problems. And no news from Dieter about #1024 :( |
| 14:31.46 | Cervajz | I've installed SHR from 23 Jan and I have problem with high enlightenment CPU usage...do you know where is the problem? Thank you |
| 14:32.16 | PaulFertser | Cervajz: try to install the latest SHR unstable image and disable the battery gadget. |
| 14:32.59 | Cervajz | PaulFertser: Thanks, the latest not works for me :( No ssh and power button don't work |
| 14:33.14 | Cervajz | But I'll try switch off battery gadget |
| 14:33.15 | PaulFertser | Cervajz: you'll have ssh on the second boot. |
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| 14:33.29 | Cervajz | PaulFertser: Unfortunatelly no |
| 14:33.48 | PaulFertser | Cervajz: ifdown usb0; ifup usb0 on FR? |
| 14:34.22 | Cervajz | PaulFertser: ok, I'll try it, thank you |
| 14:35.23 | PaulFertser | Cervajz: this E issue is more or less mistery. Raster was even going to investigate it himself but due to some OE misconfiguration SHR was built without X for him :( |
| 14:36.24 | Cervajz | PaulFertser: You're right! I was trying latest and It was without X |
| 14:36.44 | Cervajz | PaulFertser: So...I can't use it |
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| 14:36.55 | Cervajz | PaulFertser: Maybe version form 29 Jan |
| 14:36.58 | Cervajz | from* |
| 14:37.06 | PaulFertser | Cervajz: ask mrmoku, probably he has fixed the image already, at least he knows why the latest was without X. |
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| 14:40.30 | PaulFertser | lindi-: yes, analyzing the log shows that after i returned home, my FR experienced recamping bug :( And it the same home where it can sometimes work for hours without re-registrations :-/ |
| 14:41.18 | PaulFertser | lindi-: raster was right, with calypso we're screwed anyway :( fuck, i so much hoped that Dieter will be able to found the reason for #1024. |
| 14:43.10 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i don't understand, why can't he dedicate one day to go to some location where #1024 is always reproducible. Probably make a visit to some user experiencing it reliably. Germany is not that big, after all! |
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| 14:50.25 | PaulFertser | Can't OM pay him for a week of dedicated investigation, for a ticket and accomodation so he can go whereever is needed to reproduce #1024? |
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| 14:52.41 | PaulFertser | They have many people in their TPE office, they have wiki editor, marketing department, UI design department and what not. And yet they fail to find money for this very major reverse-engineering task. |
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| 15:04.06 | Cervajz | Another q: Is it possible move with gadgets on the Shelf? |
| 15:04.08 | Cervajz | In SHR |
| 15:05.10 | kd8ikt | i'm about to try the fso milestone |
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| 15:13.17 | bove_ | I really can't figure out why neither FSO or SHR is able to boot past the Angstrom screen on my freerunner. Is really no one else experiencing the same problem? |
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| 15:13.40 | toggles_w | bove_: sounds like you're hitting the rw bug |
| 15:13.45 | toggles_w | ^rw^ro |
| 15:14.32 | bove_ | but that shouldn't effect Qi, or? |
| 15:15.44 | toggles_w | bove_: yes |
| 15:15.47 | toggles_w | it does |
| 15:16.26 | toggles_w | add this to your append-GTA02 |
| 15:16.31 | toggles_w | root@om-gta02:/boot# cat append-GTA02 |
| 15:16.31 | toggles_w | rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 |
| 15:17.09 | bove_ | k. thanks |
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| 15:29.10 | slaxxer | what would be wrong with a mail swap |
| 15:29.41 | slaxxer | send in the freerunner then he can hack the problem? |
| 15:31.00 | slaxxer | save all that travel expense an also a job is easier at the shop anyways |
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| 15:33.55 | PaulFertser | slaxxer: mail swap to investigate #1024? |
| 15:34.30 | PaulFertser | slaxxer: not gonna work because #1024 is cell network conditions dependent, not device dependent. |
| 15:34.42 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.53 | slaxxer | sorry |
| 15:36.48 | PaulFertser | slaxxer: we're all sorry that it's so hard to solve that fucking problem with calypso. And OM doesn't seem to be doing their part of work. They know even know a cool hardware engineer with equipment and stuff that can reliably reproduce it (i'm talking about budfive - Dmitry Kogan). But did they use his help? Not that anybody heard about it. |
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| 15:37.05 | lindi- | PaulFertser: how about just disabling deep sleep? it works for me, i keep an extra battery to workaround the extra consumption (which I haven't btw even managed to measure!) |
| 15:37.30 | PaulFertser | lindi-: it's ok. |
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| 15:38.36 | PaulFertser | lindi-: In fact, power consumption doesn't bother me at all, because i'm always near some PC or at least power outlet. But i expect more efforts from OM to fix #1024 than what they're doing now. |
| 15:40.16 | lindi- | PaulFertser: are you sure it is something that OM can fix? they have only very limited access to calypso source after all? |
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| 15:40.39 | slaxxer | whos network is it? |
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| 15:41.10 | henk | lindi-: it's their responsibility to fix it... i'd say. |
| 15:41.14 | PaulFertser | lindi-: they have object files and enough money to pay for reverse-engineering. They pay for full-time wiki editor, after all! |
| 15:41.36 | PaulFertser | henk: not every task is possible. But in this case i think they're not doing enough. |
| 15:42.13 | slaxxer | wikiman has been at it again |
| 15:42.14 | PaulFertser | slaxxer: it doesn't seem to matter as well. Just cell stations position and some bad luck matters to get #1024. |
| 15:42.21 | henk | PaulFertser: of course it isn't. but it is their responsibility to take care of it. in whatever way. either telling the community: 'we cant, wont or whatever' or by fixing the problem. |
| 15:42.36 | lindi- | PaulFertser: since we have a working workaround I'd put that money instead to e.g. http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/334 or http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2073 |
| 15:42.59 | PaulFertser | henk: yes, i agree. I suspect that they even terminated the contract with Dieter, that's why nothing is heard from him. |
| 15:43.16 | slaxxer | ouch |
| 15:43.23 | slaxxer | breeched |
| 15:45.16 | PaulFertser | lindi-: #334 looks much like known problems with the AT command parser, that can be fixed with a reasonable effort. #2073 looks like all is needed is an attention of one kernel hacker for one-two days. Not that either of these problems can be solved with the money, i think. |
| 15:45.22 | Weiss | afaik OM do have the source for the Calypso firmware |
| 15:45.42 | PaulFertser | Weiss: nope. |
| 15:45.59 | PaulFertser | Weiss: only to the AT command intepreter afaik. |
| 15:46.08 | Weiss | and that was enough to fix #666? |
| 15:46.33 | Weiss | hmm |
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| 15:46.49 | PaulFertser | Weiss: Dieter is an experienced hacker with a hands-on expertise on reverse-engineering GSM firmware. _That_ was enough. |
| 15:47.02 | Weiss | fair enough :) |
| 15:47.24 | PaulFertser | lindi-: btw, have you downloaded my log? Could you please put it on your faster host so i can show it to mickeyl easily? |
| 15:48.28 | bove_ | Does anyone know how PIM is comming along on shr? |
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| 15:56.14 | lindi- | PaulFertser: how about using gzip -9? |
| 15:56.52 | PaulFertser | lindi-: nah, i'm too dumb for that ;) |
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| 15:59.38 | lindi- | PaulFertser: http://iki.fi/lindi/tmp/PaulFertser/frameworkd.log.gz |
| 16:00.35 | PaulFertser | lindi-: thanks a lot, i've already bzipped it. Sorry for bothering you and if i wasn't clear enough. |
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| 16:03.51 | lindi- | PaulFertser: I setup asterisk to call my phone every two hours to wake it up and send a status report to http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/status-reports/ |
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| 16:18.42 | PaulFertser | lindi-: you're the QA hero :) too bad OM doesn't need one :( |
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| 16:23.06 | PaulFertser | Is there a special channel to express all kinds of frustration with swearing and cursing? |
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| 16:24.32 | CM_work | ~beer PaulFertser |
| 16:24.33 | apt | ACTION deftly decants a fine Dogfishhead 90min IPA for PaulFertser |
| 16:24.40 | CM_work | Right here :D |
| 16:25.32 | PaulFertser | CM_work: Thanks, man :) |
| 16:25.48 | lindi- | PaulFertser: they are not needed, you just need infinite patience :) |
| 16:26.02 | CM_work | Like mickeyl ;) |
| 16:26.17 | PaulFertser | Heh :) |
| 16:27.54 | CIA-49 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * rf5c3b70f4cef 10/ (src/multiplexer.vala src/serial.vala vapi/posixextra.vapi): posixextra: make termios and winsize a struct |
| 16:28.10 | mickeyl | hehe |
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| 16:28.40 | lindi- | mickeyl: hi |
| 16:28.48 | mickeyl | yo lindi- |
| 16:32.47 | mickeyl | unfortunately too few people working on htc-linux and gnuufish |
| 16:32.54 | mickeyl | otherwise there would be more hardware choices |
| 16:33.39 | SpeedEvil | launches his i386 based PDA some years late. |
| 16:33.48 | SpeedEvil | More choice! |
| 16:33.51 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 16:33.53 | mickeyl | righto |
| 16:33.55 | SpeedEvil | (not really) |
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| 16:34.17 | SpeedEvil | Palm-sized, chording keyboard, PCMCIA card, virtual display. |
| 16:34.23 | SpeedEvil | But ran into problems sourcing parts. |
| 16:35.13 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 16:35.20 | mickeyl | component sourcing is tough |
| 16:35.28 | mickeyl | lead times are sucky |
| 16:35.39 | SpeedEvil | even lead-free times. |
| 16:35.41 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 16:35.44 | mickeyl | heh |
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| 16:38.26 | Infoport | hello all! anybody have any luck getting sound out of OpenMooCow? |
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| 16:40.32 | Infoport | not sure if it is OpenMooCow not working, accel. not responding, or sound issue |
| 16:40.49 | Wonka | i did get it to moo |
| 16:41.01 | Wonka | do you have snd-pcm-oss loaded? |
| 16:41.56 | Infoport | I have sound in calls, but not hearing it |
| 16:42.15 | Infoport | I thought it moo'ed once before, but not anytime recently |
| 16:42.36 | Infoport | installed, or checck to see if loaded? |
| 16:44.20 | Infoport | Wonka how should I check snd-pcm-oss? |
| 16:44.43 | Infoport | Wonka currently connected to laptop, ssh'd in |
| 16:45.02 | Wonka | Infoport: lsmod | grep snd |
| 16:46.00 | Infoport | Wonka yep it is loaded. I have also tried to restore state files by forcing reinstall of alsa scenarios |
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| 16:49.35 | Infoport | Wonka did you have to run another prog to get accels reading, or change alsamixer settings? |
| 16:50.24 | henk | the accels are /dev/input/event1 and 2 iirc. you can just cat them to see if they return data... |
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| 16:51.05 | Wonka | Infoport: afair not |
| 16:52.05 | Infoport | henk wow, nothing from 1 but 2 returned data that messed up fonts |
| 16:52.20 | Wonka | binary stuff. so what. |
| 16:52.34 | Infoport | Wonka yep. |
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| 16:54.17 | Infoport | henk, Wonka-- I wonder why the event1 didn't return anything while shaking it |
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| 16:54.59 | Weiss | Infoport: pressing the cow will also generate a moo.. |
| 16:55.13 | Infoport | henk, Wonka-- well anyway didn't get any sound out of OpenMooCow either |
| 16:55.21 | Infoport | Weiss nothing on press. |
| 16:55.35 | Weiss | which version do you have? |
| 16:56.11 | Infoport | not sure if Media plays either (OM2008.12) because no songs there, not sure how the MediaPlayer is supposed to browse for files |
| 16:56.34 | Infoport | latest OpenMooCow, reinstalled (same ver) a little bit ago |
| 16:57.10 | Infoport | Weiss OM2008.12 and OpenmooCow 0.3 |
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| 16:58.30 | Weiss | Infoport: hmm.. i've had some problems with stick accelerometers there, but if there's no sound when you press either, it sounds like an audio problem |
| 16:58.38 | Weiss | sticky* |
| 16:59.04 | Weiss | if you run it from a terminal, it'll say "Moo!" when it's trying to make a sound |
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| 17:00.09 | Infoport | Weiss sounds logical. when I FIRST installed OpenMooCow(while back), it worked, with press too, but went away after a few times |
| 17:00.27 | Infoport | Weiss I'll try from terminal, thanks |
| 17:00.33 | Weiss | yeah.. the accelerometers "stick" after a while in the current kernel.. |
| 17:01.50 | Infoport | Weiss, hmm says Unable to open audio: No available audio device (was I supposed to try through ssh?) |
| 17:01.57 | Weiss | yep, that's right |
| 17:03.28 | Infoport | Weiss well the accels are working, because I get the audio error with each shake. Must be a sound issue, shown with error |
| 17:04.11 | Weiss | ok |
| 17:04.26 | Weiss | if you look in dmesg, there should be something about audio stuff |
| 17:05.15 | Wonka | Infoport: i lost the errors got the moos by "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" |
| 17:07.29 | Infoport | Wonka nope, still no sound, still see "Unable to open audio" error if run in term |
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| 17:07.57 | Wonka | Infoport: if that's the case, doing a "echo snd-pcm-oss > /etc/modutils/snd-pcm-oss ; update-modules" will resolve it |
| 17:08.09 | Wonka | Infoport: hm. moment. |
| 17:09.37 | Infoport | Weiss didn't see audio info in dmesg, except for mention of audio codec |
| 17:10.25 | Infoport | Weiss, Wonka-- definitely get ring tone when I called a little earlier though |
| 17:10.47 | Wonka | Infoport: do a "strace -eopen openmoocom" |
| 17:11.23 | Wonka | Infoport: ringinng uses ALSA interface, not obsolete OSS |
| 17:11.52 | Weiss | openmoocow just goes through SDL to do the audio |
| 17:12.06 | Weiss | (i like the idea of 'OpenMooCom'.. some kind of terminal emulator?) |
| 17:13.27 | Infoport | Wonka ok, lots of stuff ran by, followed by reg terminal output from OpenMooCow (with Unable to open error) |
| 17:14.30 | Infoport | Wonka should I look or something, or put output up on pastey, pastebin or something |
| 17:14.55 | Infoport | Weiss I think it must be OSS or something not being able to access the audio device |
| 17:15.43 | Wonka | Infoport: which filein /dev did it try to open? |
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| 17:16.12 | Wonka | hrmf, bad GPRS reception here |
| 17:17.09 | Infoport | Wonka trying to open /dev/dsp |
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| 17:17.34 | Wonka | Infoport: does that one exist? |
| 17:18.35 | Infoport | Wonka, yes, crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Oct 27 12:43 /dev/dsp |
| 17:19.42 | Infoport | Weiss, Wonka, do other mediaplayers use OSS too? maybe the difference is not having some other extra software |
| 17:19.53 | Wonka | Infoport: should work then... |
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| 17:20.26 | Wonka | Infoport: some do, most not |
| 17:20.52 | Wonka | Infoport: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 5. Feb 18:14 /dev/dsp |
| 17:21.25 | Wonka | Infoport: looks similar enough |
| 17:24.31 | bove2 | anyone know how PIM is comming along on SHR? Is it waiting for FSO PIM framework? |
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| 17:38.32 | notuniq | hi, i don't suppose someone could point me to a guide for how to flash the nand (or nor on the freerunner) using the debug board without using u-boot running on the phone? |
| 17:38.47 | notuniq | (apologies if i am fundamentally misunderstanding something) |
| 17:38.54 | Infoport | ow do I get advanced illume settings in 2008.12? I have illume-config, but not showing up since .12upgrade |
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| 17:47.18 | Infoport | is there a new way to get advanced illume settings (querty, rasters kb, etc) the wiki method isnt working for me as before |
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| 17:50.07 | notuniq | i'm assuming that the script given here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_NOR is something that's run on the device? is that right? |
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| 17:59.02 | Infoport | still no sound out of OpenMooCow, doesnt seem to be able to use /dev/dsp (but there) |
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| 18:09.12 | gfather | guys i know that qi boots only 3 partitions right ? |
| 18:09.29 | gfather | so any 3 partitions , or 3 ext3 partitions ? |
| 18:09.56 | gfather | becouse i have 1 vfat and 3 partition ext3 |
| 18:10.11 | gfather | and it dosent boot on the 3rd ext3 partition |
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| 18:23.32 | kd8ikt | well... |
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| 18:24.24 | kd8ikt | how do you plan to boot the other partition? unless i'm on old data but Qi doesnt have a boot menu |
| 18:25.00 | gfather | by pressing aux |
| 18:26.01 | gfather | but what im asking is will it boot from ext3 p3 if i have 1 vfat and 3 ext3 |
| 18:31.14 | Infoport | still not able to play sounds other than rings/calls. OpenMooCow can't open /dev/dsp, and media player didn't like mp3 I gave it (not supported) |
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| 18:53.56 | bove2 | anyone using qwo? |
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| 19:00.21 | SpeedEvil | revision control systems. http://www.nickscipio.com/pod/2009/01/24_revisioncloud.html (safe for work, most of the other links on that site are not) |
| 19:00.40 | Wonka | *g* |
| 19:01.38 | Wonka | yeah, i saw several NSFW image URLs with that domain... |
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| 19:05.49 | Infoport | anybody that can help with no sound from application? OpenMooCow wants /dev/dsp and is "Unable to open audio" |
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| 19:07.44 | Infoport | actually, looks like "Device or resource busy" is a clue |
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| 19:12.29 | Infoport | *sigh* no being able to play audio makes ppl be less impressed, wish I ould fix before tonight |
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| 19:22.31 | Defiant-_ | Infoport: what does lsof say? |
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| 19:38.31 | kd8ikt | lsof |grep /dev/dsp |
| 19:39.04 | kd8ikt | or ugh missing the snd_pcm_oss module? is that the right one? |
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| 19:39.19 | damunix | hi |
| 19:40.00 | damunix | is there anyone that use usb host features on their openmoko GTA01 |
| 19:40.02 | damunix | ? |
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| 19:58.06 | bove | doesn't illume support bluetooth keyboard input? |
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| 20:00.22 | bove | I'm connected, but can't type anything |
| 20:06.21 | Infoport | Defiant, kd8ikt oops, I'm back. snd-pcm-oss seems to be loaded, lsof is not found as command |
| 20:07.28 | Defiant-_ | kd8ikt: lsof should work without grep, right? |
| 20:07.37 | Defiant-_ | Infoport: try installing it |
| 20:08.52 | Infoport | defiant I tried it without grep. anyway, installing it now |
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| 20:10.15 | Infoport | Defiant, kd8ikt nothing matches grep'ing for /dev/dsp |
| 20:11.03 | Defiant-_ | then it should be able to open it... |
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| 20:13.29 | Infoport | Defiant, yeah *should* :-/ |
| 20:15.35 | Infoport | Defiant, kd8ikt I get ring/call sound, but running OpenMooCow in terminal shows error with each shake "Unable to open audio: No available audio device" |
| 20:18.08 | Infoport | Defiant, kd8ikt, lsmod shows modules snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss |
| 20:20.39 | PaulFertser | Infoport: have you tried aoss? Like aoss <programname> to translate OSS to ALSA in userspace. |
| 20:21.34 | PaulFertser | Infoport: does aplay <random wav> work? |
| 20:22.15 | Infoport | PaulFertser no I havent, although OpenMooCow worked very briefly before a reflash a while back, just cant tell what changed |
| 20:22.29 | PaulFertser | Infoport: try |
| 20:23.40 | Infoport | PaulFertser aoss isnt in repo, have to install from elsewhere? |
| 20:24.03 | kd8ikt | neat someone made a labrynth game |
| 20:24.27 | kd8ikt | http://www.opkg.org/package_121.html |
| 20:25.04 | PaulFertser | Infoport: you need alsa-utils |
| 20:25.55 | PaulFertser | Infoport: btw, you may be running speech-dispatcher or smth that may want OSS access. Look at your ps ax output and think about every program a bit. |
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| 20:27.47 | Infoport | PaulFertser damn, speech-dispatcher IS running. what is that? |
| 20:28.07 | PaulFertser | Infoport: i don't know. Seen on the mailing list. Probably Navit thing? |
| 20:28.46 | PaulFertser | Infoport: too strange you didn't see it lsof output |
| 20:30.31 | spaetz | speech dispatcher is pulled in by navit |
| 20:30.40 | spaetz | and it blocks audio afaik |
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| 20:31.08 | Infoport | PaulFertser so killall speech-dispatcher to check? navit will need it though? |
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| 20:33.24 | Infoport | PaulFertser, kd8ikt, hey! killing speech-dispatcher fixed it! now MooCow is able to moo! |
| 20:33.57 | Infoport | spaetz will I have to kill speech-dispatcher each time? I don't actually have navit running right now |
| 20:34.27 | PaulFertser | Infoport: search the community mailing list, i think there were enough discussions of it recently. |
| 20:34.55 | PaulFertser | Infoport: alternative: port MooCow to ALSA or at least install aoss. |
| 20:35.12 | Infoport | PaulFertser OK. I had found other sound issues, but now I'll search for navit & speech-dispatcher |
| 20:35.40 | PaulFertser | Infoport: only speech-dispatcher is enough, even i rememeber it :) |
| 20:38.04 | kd8ikt | i havent messed with usb hostmode but i'd like to |
| 20:38.18 | kd8ikt | i need to magic up a connector |
| 20:38.48 | kd8ikt | and suddenly after a few weeks of letting friends hangout i seem to have *lost* my extra usb cables |
| 20:38.55 | kd8ikt | ... |
| 20:39.46 | kd8ikt | congrats Infoport |
| 20:40.03 | kd8ikt | speech dispatcher is for navit right? |
| 20:41.30 | spaetz | Infoport: no idea, I don't have it running |
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| 20:41.42 | Infoport | kd8ikt I found cheap, camera-type usb cable on closeout at a computer store for $.49/ea and bought 2doz |
| 20:42.07 | Infoport | kd8ikt throw them in my trunk, in computer bag, etc etc |
| 20:42.25 | kd8ikt | tell me you live next door |
| 20:42.45 | kd8ikt | :D |
| 20:42.45 | Infoport | AFAIK, I dont even really use speech-dispatcher |
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| 20:43.52 | jhass840 | Just a quick question. Is there a way I can set my neo to vibrate when I receive a text message, similar to defining a message alert tone? |
| 20:44.07 | lindi- | jhass840: that's a software issue, what dialer are you using? |
| 20:44.07 | Infoport | kd8ikt, PaulFertesr, spaetz -- I found the thread in my email! |
| 20:44.25 | jhass840 | lindi-: The default SHR dialer |
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| 20:45.18 | lindi- | jhass840: i don't know what that is |
| 20:45.24 | lindi- | jhass840: what's the name of the dialer program? |
| 20:45.31 | Infoport | one more-- I used to have expanded illume-config settings, but now wrench/"qwerty" doesnt show up. I have illume-config-illume, tried to reinstall even, but no luck |
| 20:45.40 | jhass840 | lindi-: It normally plays a tone when I receive a message, however when I have it on silent it doesn't do anything |
| 20:45.48 | jhass840 | lindi-: Sorry, let me look |
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| 20:49.35 | spaetz | lindi-: openmoko-dialer IMHO |
| 20:49.40 | jhass840 | lindi-: openmoko-dialer3 |
| 20:51.27 | lindi- | away.. |
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| 20:56.59 | kd8ikt | ok time to make fun of me |
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| 20:57.19 | kd8ikt | i'm gonna tryusb hostmode |
| 20:57.41 | kd8ikt | splicing my own cable... pin to pin? or is there a crossover somewhere |
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| 20:59.15 | PaulFertser | kd8ikt: pin2pin |
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| 21:01.46 | kd8ikt | i'm about to butcher some cordage |
| 21:02.06 | kd8ikt | and possibly fry some IC's ;D |
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| 21:05.46 | shellevil | don't connect red to black wires, and you should be fine |
| 21:05.56 | shellevil | (as in won't kill stuff) |
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| 21:07.11 | kd8ikt | *ZAP* |
| 21:07.29 | kd8ikt | what? X| *dead* |
| 21:08.56 | bove | anyone know what package "atd" is? I need it for ffalarms |
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| 21:28.26 | lindi- | spaetz: I do not have permission to reopen http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/91 |
| 21:28.44 | lindi- | spaetz: however I sent comment to http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/91#comment:12 |
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| 21:51.14 | lindi- | spaetz: btw, is there some way to query fso and shr trac at the same time? |
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| 21:59.19 | bove | how can I get sound in the SHR alarm clock? |
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| 22:16.41 | kd8ikt | ok yeah i cant get usb host mode to work |
| 22:16.56 | kd8ikt | :( |
| 22:20.05 | PaulFertser | kd8ikt: what's the problem? |
| 22:20.24 | kd8ikt | lsusb doesnt change |
| 22:20.33 | kd8ikt | dmesg floods cant enumerate device |
| 22:20.41 | PaulFertser | kd8ikt: have you enabled the host mode properly? |
| 22:20.47 | kd8ikt | probably not |
| 22:20.52 | kd8ikt | ;D |
| 22:21.01 | kd8ikt | brb |
| 22:21.02 | PaulFertser | kd8ikt: how did you try to do that? |
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| 22:21.58 | kd8ikt | and the shr-settings usb.py is empty |
| 22:22.12 | PaulFertser | kd8ikt: do it by sysfs path directly |
| 22:22.20 | PaulFertser | s/path/paths/ |
| 22:22.39 | kd8ikt | that was gonna be my next move |
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| 22:27.04 | kd8ikt | ok the usbmod.py script i was using is outdated |
| 22:27.14 | kd8ikt | changed sysfs entries |
| 22:27.29 | kd8ikt | so i'm gonna modify it |
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| 22:33.51 | kd8ikt | echo 1 > /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode |
| 22:33.52 | kd8ikt | ? |
| 22:34.08 | kd8ikt | hostmode providing power? |
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| 22:37.06 | kd8ikt | Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. |
| 22:37.07 | kd8ikt | nice |
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| 22:59.38 | peppertarts | Hi all. Could someone send me a dump of their u-boot_env partition (GTA02) please? I have managed to bork mine and cant recreate it. |
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| 22:59.56 | peppertarts | dfu-util -a u-boot_env -R -U env.in |
| 23:00.29 | kd8ikt | http://we.trekbeyond.org/~kd8ikt/moko/u-boot_env_bkup.bin |
| 23:00.47 | kd8ikt | i wonder if thats what the lowlevel stuff is on the main download pages? |
| 23:01.03 | kd8ikt | bear in mind mine is a GTA02 |
| 23:01.22 | kd8ikt | i should put that in the filename eh? |
| 23:01.31 | peppertarts | Excellent. Thanks. |
| 23:02.28 | kd8ikt | its happened to me once before ;D |
| 23:02.38 | kd8ikt | never again will i worry |
| 23:03.00 | niv | that reminds me, i have to refix my bootloader on my GTA02 |
| 23:03.17 | niv | ... since debian didn't want to boot... |
| 23:03.48 | niv | so many things todo, less time |
| 23:04.20 | peppertarts | I'll be sure to keep a back up too. I moved to qi but have had to return to u-boot due to problems with the recent FSO images. |
| 23:05.02 | kd8ikt | i think i'm using shr 1-29-09 and sofar so good |
| 23:05.06 | netx | speaking on u-boot... |
| 23:05.26 | netx | does anyone know where to get the u-boot version from the original shipping Freerunners? |
| 23:05.47 | kd8ikt | good god why would you want to downgrade |
| 23:06.08 | netx | i flashed to the December 08 version, and now i have much more difficulty recharging when the battery is dead, than with the May 08 version |
| 23:06.44 | netx | it used to be that when the battery was dead, i could plug it into the AC Adapter from the extras pack, and it would boot |
| 23:07.12 | netx | now, it won't, and the only way i can boot is using the hack documented on the wiki battery page |
| 23:07.37 | netx | the one where you hold the AUX button, then plug in the USB cable (not AC adapter) |
| 23:08.27 | netx | i don't know for sure that the new u-boot is responsible for that, but i would like to re-flash with the May 08 version and try it |
| 23:09.12 | kd8ikt | how ya gonna flash it when theres no power? |
| 23:09.26 | peppertarts | hmm, I just can't get u-boot working at all (In NAND). I get the message 'poweroff' |
| 23:09.46 | netx | no, i would recharge the battery first ;-) |
| 23:10.36 | kd8ikt | ... thats llike a chicken and egg problem |
| 23:10.48 | kd8ikt | peppertarts: did you flash the uboot env? |
| 23:11.07 | kd8ikt | cause there should be all the default boot items |
| 23:11.16 | kd8ikt | unless you did something wrong |
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| 23:12.30 | peppertarts | kd8ikt: Yes, that was my original problem. I was hoping that flashing a backup would solve it. |
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| 23:13.10 | kd8ikt | dfu-util -a u-boot_env -R -U uboot_env.bin |
| 23:13.20 | kd8ikt | ? is that what you did |
| 23:13.35 | kd8ikt | err |
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| 23:13.43 | kd8ikt | -D not u |
| 23:14.18 | peppertarts | yeah |
| 23:15.11 | peppertarts | It looks like it isn't the u-boot environment variables that are at fault. |
| 23:15.31 | kd8ikt | u-boot? |
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| 23:16.15 | peppertarts | I've tried two versions of u-boot and get the 'poweroff' message with both. |
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| 23:17.16 | peppertarts | (Or a garbled screen) |
| 23:18.29 | kd8ikt | that deff doesnt sound good |
| 23:18.56 | kd8ikt | tried the NOR u-boot? |
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| 23:19.18 | kd8ikt | hold power then aux |
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| 23:19.37 | kd8ikt | or swapped around |
| 23:19.53 | peppertarts | yeah, that works fine. And so does QI in NAND. |
| 23:19.54 | kd8ikt | sounds like somethings corrupt |
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| 23:21.12 | kd8ikt | gta02v5+? |
| 23:21.50 | kd8ikt | my brain hurts i'm gonna take a break |
| 23:21.56 | peppertarts | Yeah... the last one I flashed was http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/unstable/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin |
| 23:22.58 | peppertarts | ok, thanks :-) Hopefully someone else can jump in? |
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| 23:33.20 | badcloud | chello people |
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