IRC log for #openmoko on 20090127

00:00.08orzoso buzz is the only problem for my phoen really
00:00.14orzobut its neo1973
00:00.22orzois that unrelated to the buzz on gta02?
00:00.30Arhuacolindi-: let me check. it out... I have a debug board so I can help.
00:01.02lindi-Arhuaco: also i noticed that the watchdog chip on freerunner is very useful
00:01.22lindi-Arhuaco: i don't need to remove the battery anymore if kernel gets stuck somehow :)
00:01.36orzowhy do you say duh and ask about 1973, DocScrutinizer2?
00:01.41DocScrutinizer2orzo: no, but we heard of really few 01 with buzz so far
00:01.46orzooh
00:01.48orzowell
00:01.54orzo<PROTECTED>
00:02.01orzoecho was more serious
00:02.06orzoi havent bothered about buzz
00:02.25viqPerfidian: there seem to be some on sourceforge
00:02.46orzoi use att in florida
00:02.54Arhuacolindi-: I see. Reading your patch...
00:03.08lindi-Arhuaco: i know C and have done some kernel stuff but nothing large so all the different abstractions in alsa are quite confusing
00:03.15DocScrutinizer2orzo: so i read this as "positive report on echo fixed for good with AT%Nxxx"
00:03.23orzoyes
00:04.03lindi-does the nature of xxx matter here?
00:04.16lindi-I needed to send %N187 and after every received call
00:04.21DocScrutinizer2wahh, alsa - abstractions ... (nausea) ;-)
00:04.21lindi-orzo: are you sending it after every call?
00:04.29orzoi think so
00:04.33DocScrutinizer2BEFORE
00:04.35Arhuacolindi-: Ok. I should help with that (I'll have to learn fast about kernel-side alsa).
00:04.36orzoi patched frameworkd
00:04.38orzowell
00:04.44orzowell for each call
00:05.06lindi-orzo: i am sending it with DebugCommand so that i don't need to patch frameworkd :)
00:05.12lindi-cheating, i know
00:05.13orzoi can dig up my exact patch probably
00:05.15orzoif you want to look
00:05.24lindi-orzo: not needed
00:05.32DocScrutinizer2Arhuaco: what's up with kernel alsa?
00:05.34orzoit was just two python lines
00:05.44lindi-DocScrutinizer2: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2135
00:05.48lindi-no
00:05.49lindi-wrong url
00:06.08lindi-DocScrutinizer2: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2073
00:06.16Arhuacohello DocScrutinizer2, #2073 :-) That's it...
00:06.58ArhuacoDocScrutinizer2: From what I have read hardware can record audio... but in the wiki is says it hasn't been tested.
00:07.27lindi-Arhuaco: i can record audio but it needs tricks
00:07.48lindi-Arhuaco: i need to use gsmheadset.state, start arecord and then switch to voice-recoding.state
00:07.57DocScrutinizer2Arhuaco: that's nonsense. I actuallyy did
00:08.10lindi-Arhuaco: if i switch to voice-recording.state before running arecord i get oops
00:08.17ArhuacoOh lindi- ! Those tricks can give us some insights.
00:08.26lindi-Arhuaco: it should all be in the bug report :)
00:08.37ArhuacoDocScrutinizer2: That is what i read in the Wiki :-) Good to know you tested it.
00:08.46Arhuacolindi-: reading again...
00:10.40PerfidianCan you generally use any cell service provider with freerunner?
00:10.52ArhuacoDocScrutinizer2: The problems might be in the Linux drivers... now we know there are some bugs (crashes reported in the ticket).
00:10.59lindi-Perfidian: sure
00:12.09DocScrutinizer2yeah I read that. wasn't that something about sampling freq and about switching some boolean in mixer prior to starting sampling?
00:13.04lindi-DocScrutinizer2: well, no freq is allowed
00:13.28lindi-due to some bug the mask of sampling frequences has just zero
00:14.18DocScrutinizer2Arhuaco: well strange enough I had absolutely no problems when piping audio thru ssh to probe buzz locally
00:14.18ArhuacoDocScrutinizer2: (lindi- has been debugging, I'm catching up with that work... Anyway if the kernel is crashing we also have to fix it...).
00:14.27lindi-DocScrutinizer2: odd
00:14.31lindi-DocScrutinizer2: did you use arcord?
00:14.38DocScrutinizer2yup
00:14.49Arhuacolistens and open his eyes
00:14.52lindi-DocScrutinizer2: did you set voice-recording.state before or after starting arecord?
00:14.58Perfidianhttp://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/01/nsa-whistlebl-2.html
00:15.07DocScrutinizer2before I'd guess
00:15.16lindi-DocScrutinizer2: here that always causes oops
00:15.34PerfidianThier filter rules are fing retarded
00:15.47DocScrutinizer2well maybe I just was lucky?
00:15.54ArhuacoDocScrutinizer2: Do you have a custom voice-recording.state?
00:15.54lindi-DocScrutinizer2: it doesn't seem to be race of any kind
00:16.05lindi-DocScrutinizer2: 100% reproducible here :/
00:16.12DocScrutinizer2no customs
00:16.32lindi-DocScrutinizer2: very odd, any idea what arecord options you used?
00:16.36ArhuacoDocScrutinizer2: I reproduced what lindi- reported... 100% also...
00:16.41DocScrutinizer2though I can't remember where I took it from
00:17.05DocScrutinizer2nothing but --device
00:17.23DocScrutinizer2iirc
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00:18.02lindi-hmm, would be cool if you had time to retry it
00:18.46DocScrutinizer2maybe I can find the conversation from back when
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00:24.48lindi-DocScrutinizer2: that'd be terrific
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00:26.07DocScrutinizerjust kicked off a "find mail body with `arecord`", will take a while ;-)
00:26.13lindi-:)
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00:36.44DocScrutinizeruse alsastatefile 'capturehandset.state' from
00:36.48DocScrutinizerhttp://docs.openmoko.org/trac/browser/trunk/src/target/audio/om-gta02/ (attached)
00:36.53DocScrutinizercopy to GTA02 /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/capturehandset.state
00:36.53DocScrutinizerload statefile:
00:36.53DocScrutinizerroot@om-gta02:/usr/share/openmoko/scenarios# alsactl -f ./capturehandset.state restore
00:36.53DocScrutinizerin a PC side shell, start:
00:36.53DocScrutinizerssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null root@192.168.0.202 arecord | aplay
00:36.53DocScrutinizerlisten to microphone via speaker/headset of PC
00:37.05DocScrutinizer####
00:37.21DocScrutinizerafaik this was on original factory image
00:40.09DocScrutinizerwell but I remember there was some starnge issue it didn't work for quite some time, and we didn't find why. After starting all over again from beginning he problem was gone anyway
00:43.44anttnaHi folks fyi I edited the following page which might be of interest http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Screen_protection_-_ARMR200_film. I have no connection to this product but I googled and found it
00:44.57DocScrutinizer2Arhuaco: lindi- : you see I didn't use any parameters at all :-)
00:48.59ArhuacoDocScrutinizer2: As it is I get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:805:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream".
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00:50.32DocScrutinizer2so /usr/alsa/dmix is crap it seems. btw for this to work you probably need dsnoop not dmix (on FR)
00:50.49ArhuacoChecking...
00:52.07DocScrutinizer2well its not exactly dmix but some other cfgfile calling dmix for mic record, which is utterly wrong
00:52.44DocScrutinizer2as far as this is a OM msg and not your PC origin
00:53.22ArhuacoDocScrutinizer2: yes, it is in OM... I've seen it before.
00:54.23DocScrutinizer2so a simple arecord >somefile in a fr-shell should yield same result
00:55.08DocScrutinizer2as the ssh and pipe around shouldn't change anything
00:55.36ArhuacoDocScrutinizer2: arecord alone produces this message.
00:56.23DocScrutinizer2yup, lemme check files on a FR. there's a fat bug in alsa-config somewhere
00:56.55DocScrutinizerjust have to spot it ;)
01:03.02DocScrutinizerseems here's a bug in /usr/share/alsa/pcm/default.conf
01:04.30DocScrutinizerI see a hint for input, but I don't understand how actual redirect for input-PCM to dsnoop is (not) done. AFAIK a hint is nothing but a beter comment. But I have to learn about allthis again myself, too tired right now
01:05.03DocScrutinizeryou could try "--device dsnoop" or sth like that, in cmdline
01:05.57ArhuacoThanks DocScrutinizer for your help :-)
01:06.30DocScrutinizeror try to cmpare /usr/share/alsa/pcm/default.conf to a very ancient version, and also to the capturehandset.state mentioned above
01:07.11DocScrutinizerHTH, don't forget to mention me if you fix it ;-)
01:08.36ArhuacoDocScrutinizer: Sure :-) I'll check what I can do. I am not that experienced with Alsa. I think lindi- knows more about it. Checking...
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01:14.08AntonTakk1poo...cdevel is dead  :)
01:18.20DocScrutinizerhuh?
01:19.23DocScrutinizerdid they kick you Anton? ;P
01:19.52johnsu01So, when I use illume on debian, the font for the letters on the keys is very very small
01:19.58johnsu01compared to what it is on shr or fso
01:20.13johnsu01This is probably dpi related? Any suggestions for where to look or what to change?
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01:23.01DocScrutinizerbtw this A7 booted all the way to homescreen without battery, just hooked up to my laptop USB (no SIM though)  :-)
01:29.03Mononokeis there way to set the time just from gsm? doesn't gsm send also time info ?
01:31.18ArhuacoDocScrutinizer: I'll be back later...
01:31.29johnsu01I'm not sure what these enlightenment scaling settings are supposed to do, but they don't seem to have an effect
01:32.11ArhuacoDocScrutinizer: I'll update the wiki as soon as we find something that works... and I also have to check the driver crashes.. (later).
01:32.38rasterjohnsu01: they will affect anythign scalable that e has
01:33.06johnsu01raster: but that doesn't include the letters on the keyboard or the word suggestions above it?
01:33.07rastermind u - they wont fully take effect properly until an e restart'
01:33.12johnsu01ah
01:33.20rasterit does
01:33.51johnsu01I'm trying to understand what the difference between them is
01:34.22johnsu01the Base DPI should be set at what my xserver dpi is?
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01:34.43rasterthere is a design dpi
01:34.51rasterthat is the dpi at which the gui was designed
01:34.57raster(the theme)
01:35.09rasteror the dpi at which it should "look good"
01:39.06johnsu01hm, well I bumped that up from 100 to 300 and restarted but don't see a change
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01:53.11DocScrutinizerMononoke: see [devel] (iirc). Has been discussed several times. Bottom line: many networks don't support, and afaik FSO will learn how to get time from those wo actually do. It's strangely coded with +/-15min zones in BCD
01:54.19MononokeDocScrutinizer: yeah I just had strange feeling like shr setting it's time without any help
01:54.55MononokeDocScrutinizer: so I thought it was it but now it jumped to totaly different time =] so most likely it was something rand om and there is bug
01:55.00DocScrutinizerwell there's also GPS, and last not neast NTPDATE
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01:58.42DocScrutinizerMononoke: plwase check /etc/adjtime! I really hope we don't reiterate same ageold bug to mess with hwclock's timeadjust by restoring systime to cmos-clock on sys-shutdown. Utterly stupid thing widespread on all distros a dew years ago
02:00.43MononokeO.O now it's like 30sec off the time with wrong date... I'm going to check it
02:01.41Mononokeno such file
02:02.25DocScrutinizergood
02:03.19Mononokenah I'll just go to sleep and take it as I can't count on openmoko alarm today =]
02:03.37DocScrutinizerthough there's another caveat here iirc: no hwclock (8)
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02:04.55DocScrutinizerfor some reason I still didn'r understand hwclock() fubction is mixed into some FSO stuff or sth like that
02:04.56Mononokeahh I see how it changed the time to wrong and correct
02:05.24DocScrutinizer?
02:05.25Mononokeyes there is hwclock and running it it outputs the wrong time :/
02:06.00DocScrutinizerso this is your RTC time
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02:06.23Mononokeso if I'll pull out battery or whatever I'l have the wrong time again ? :)
02:06.31DocScrutinizerif your date() time is correct right now, do `hwclock --systohc`
02:08.28DocScrutinizerhmm strange - what was that bogus info aout "no hwclock" then hat I seem to remember...
02:08.37DocScrutinizerWeel should go to sleep
02:08.43DocScrutinizerwel :D
02:09.01DocScrutinizerwelL
02:10.32DocScrutinizer(pull out battery ) no, next bot you'll get RTC-clock time again
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02:12.24DocScrutinizerok, `# cat /etc/version \n 200804240820`. Maybe that's n FSO only XD
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02:46.58DaveHey Joerg :)
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03:17.30orzoDocScrutinizer: i hooked it up liek you said without resistors on a breadboard
03:17.33orzoits not working
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03:56.00orzonevermind, i have it working
03:56.04orzolike you said
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04:04.42johnsu01nothing I do seems to change the illume font size..
04:06.01rastermove the screen closer
04:06.04rasterit'll get bigger
04:06.05raster:)
04:06.13johnsu01heh
04:06.33rasterscaling factor scales the ui in geenral
04:06.37rasterincluding font sizes
04:06.48rasterif the theme is done right
04:06.54rasterwith scaling flags set
04:07.56johnsu01nothing gets bigger or smaller here, using e from svn
04:08.17DaveHi raster
04:08.38rasterDave: ]
04:08.44Daveorzo, got it to work?
04:08.44rasterDave: :]
04:08.46Dave:)
04:09.56rasteri just did it here
04:10.01rasterwent to settings
04:10.06rasterlook->scaling
04:10.22rasterenabled "custom scaling factor"
04:10.52rasterand set personal scaling factor to 0.85
04:10.52rasterwent down
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04:10.52raster2.0 works too
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04:10.58johnsu01<= bewildered
04:11.05johnsu01raster: what's your base dpi set to?
04:11.07rasteri'm doing it right now
04:11.14rasterif u have a custom scaling factor
04:11.17rasteruit doesnt matter
04:11.23rasterthe ui isnt very well thought out
04:11.26rasterits just raw controls
04:11.30rasterbut its 142
04:11.31orzo<PROTECTED>
04:11.42orzoim using usb keyboard in console
04:11.46orzoX is not set up to use it i guess
04:11.46rasterif u enable "custom scaling factor"
04:11.56rasterpersonal scaling factor is used
04:12.01rasterdpi is not used
04:12.03orzoDave: Apparently all I need to do is remove the resistors
04:12.25johnsu01raster: ahh, custom scaling factor does work, you're right... hopefully restarting will fix the jumble that the larger text causes
04:12.32orzoat least thats the circuit i have on the breadboard
04:12.35raster"scale relative to screen dpi" uses the "base dpi" in addition to actual screen dpi
04:12.49Davesweet
04:12.58rasterso a scvaling factor is calculated
04:13.05rasterie current dpi / base dpi
04:13.22rasterbase dpi is just the dpi at which the ui design was done or intended for
04:13.33rasterand yes
04:13.38rastera restart fixes it properly
04:13.47rasterthings dotn all quite adjust right in e runtime
04:13.52johnsu01lol, after restarting, everything is *really* big, and sigh, now I can't get to the settings widget..
04:13.58rasterelementary tho handles it prettymuch flawlessly and elementary uses e's scaling factor
04:14.05rasterso if e's scalign changes - elementary does too
04:16.08Davewoo
04:18.35orzookay, it works
04:18.40orzoi cut the resistor connectinos
04:18.48Dave:)
04:18.49orzoand the altoids tin y adapter works
04:19.06Dave:D
04:19.16DaveI'll take a dozen!
04:21.04Dave:P
04:22.16orzoi also now have it going fast charge
04:22.20orzofrom a wall adapter
04:22.22orzowith a usb keyboard
04:22.50orzoi could use it like a laptop that way
04:23.18Daveyeah, sweet
04:23.35orzoi could setup bluetooth networking
04:23.40orzosince the gta01 doesnt have wifi
04:26.08johnsu01raster: thanks for the handholding there, I tried lots of combinations on those controls but apparently not that one
04:26.25rasteryeah - my bad - bad ui
04:26.28rasterbut i did it quickly
04:26.36rastera lot of e's config dialogs need a re-do
04:26.46rasterto be intuative, simple and fit on tiny screens
04:26.51rasteriuts a release todo for e17
04:26.54rasterit's
04:30.44johnsu01so, somehow a while back I managed to accidentally add an additional ibar
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04:53.40AntonTakk1bleh
05:05.07orzoDave, i'll make you an adapter box if you buy me a Freerunner
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07:37.52methrilmorning
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08:17.32asdfzhi there i can scan for my wifi -> but how do i get the keyboard to stay up
08:17.36asdfzso i can enter the password...
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08:18.51henkhi
08:18.52asdfzis this possible ?
08:20.04lindi-asdfz: what keyboard?
08:20.25asdfzwell on the andriod image i think you can get the keyboard up / i can via the menu
08:20.29asdfzbut it doesn't stya
08:20.31asdfzstay*
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08:23.21lindi-asdfz: no experience on that
08:23.33asdfzk
08:23.45lindi-asdfz: i'd check the source
08:24.04asdfzrofl..^^
08:24.16lindi-asdfz: huh? that's a perfectly normal thing to do
08:24.37asdfzmmm yeah maybe
08:30.22CIA-49openmoko: 03werner * r4907 10/developers/werner/bin/snmp: Utility to track changes to /proc/net/snmp
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08:37.50Hopscotchgood morning
08:38.14WonkaWhat do you mean? Do you wish me a good morning, or mean that it is a good morning whether I want it or not
08:38.55Wonkaargh.
08:39.08Wonkaalias contains ";", /say ends there
08:40.30CVirusWonka: it's a good morning whether you want it or not :-p
08:41.25Wonka*g*
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11:37.15joheyAbout when will GTA04 become available?
11:37.35joheyIs it planned for 2009?
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11:38.26wd04?
11:39.03KredI think first comes 03
11:39.56wdand will 13 available?
11:41.07joheyYes, 03 will probably come first, but I'm still asking for the 04, or at least a GTA* with 3G support.
11:41.27Kredwd: probably not. I think it's going to be skipped.
11:42.16Kredjohey: there's no dates even for 03 so it's quite impossible to speculate on such a thing.
11:42.41joheyOkay, Kred. Thanks!
11:43.03Kredjohey: I recommend you to search the community for details about 3G.
11:43.14joheyThen I'd probably go for a 02, since it may take a while for the 04.
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11:43.31joheyWill do.
11:43.49KredIf possible I'd wait for 03 :)
11:44.34joheyDepends on how much money is left after paying my bills. :)
11:49.52joheyHow often do you charge the battery of your Freerunner? This question goes to all users. I just want an average. :)
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11:51.12CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * r027fd5d65d98 10/framework/subsystems/oeventsd/fso_actions.py:
11:51.12CIA-49freesmartphone.org: oeventsd: support setting environment variables for the Command action (closes: #242)
11:51.12CIA-49freesmartphone.org: Thanks to Peter Strapp for the idea and a patch.
11:51.13CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * reb4b6b398307 10/framework/subsystems/ousaged/generic.py: ousaged: add some more debug messages
11:52.31CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r70a3c2b1128e 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/gpsdevice.py:
11:52.31CIA-49freesmartphone.org: ogpsd: Check in all resource functions if a channel is None and warn
11:52.31CIA-49freesmartphone.org: Under certain circumstances, i.e. with testdevices we don't have a
11:52.31CIA-49freesmartphone.org: channel. Also remove stray shutdownChannel from commit
11:52.33CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 0be860bbc94f497a877555fbb4c9c95107634ef3
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13:42.28evoluxi try to mount a squashfs-image on my microSDHC using SHR, the file is 1.8 GB big. it more or less works but some files are not there. when i do a "ls /mnt/", i get some "file or directory not found" errors.
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13:42.55evoluxmounting the same file from the same sd card works on my desktop machine.
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13:43.10evoluxis this the right place to ask?
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13:54.55gfather<evolux yes :)
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15:11.10F|ngerI am trying to install Qi bootloader using dfu-util, everything *looks* ok, but at the end nothing is changed and I still have u-boot, anyone?
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15:23.44WeissF|nger: you'll always have u-boot in NOR unless you do something involving a debug board. are you sure you're booting to NAND when you test?
15:25.08F|ngerWeiss: How do I boot to nand then ?
15:25.15F|ngerit's confusing me
15:25.35Weissjust press Power once (you don't even have to hold it) from the completely off status. don't press any other buttons..
15:25.53F|ngerah lemme try that
15:26.03Weissa second or so later the vibrator will buzz quickly (i found slightly stronger than it did with u-boot) and it'll get going
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15:29.13F|ngerWeiss: ok thanx ;-) It's booting ;)
15:29.53Weiss:D
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15:49.57johnsu01mwester-laptop: Do I need to change my fso feed from testing in order to get the fix for the zhone dependency issue? with the default feeds, it's not pulling it in.
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16:13.50Tm_Tmickey mickey mickey, didn't we teach you to behave, didn't we?
16:13.53Tm_Thides
16:14.01mickeylhuh, what's up?
16:14.14Tm_Tnothing, just your nick reminded me about one old joke
16:14.29Tm_Thow are you sir?
16:14.39mickeylfine, thanks. you?
16:14.43Tm_Texcited? have party feeling?
16:14.47mickeylheh
16:14.49mickeylparty...
16:14.54mickeyla full workday in front of me
16:15.02Tm_Ttired a bit, baby is bit keeping up but...
16:15.11Tm_Tmickeyl: oh but it's party day too
16:15.36Tm_TKDE 4.2 getting released (;)
16:15.50Tm_Tcant wait all bashing reports to fill the blogosphere
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16:17.27Tm_Tmickeyl: btw, have openmoko any list of jobs for summer of code projects or similar?
16:18.14mickeylgood question
16:18.20mickeyli don't know whether we will run for that this year
16:18.43mickeylme and my team have zero resources this year to admin that
16:18.53mickeylso it's either someone else or nada
16:19.12mickeyli should send that to the list though
16:19.14mickeylso thanks for reminding
16:19.23johnsu01I think GNU would be happy to help with that
16:19.27Tm_Tmickeyl: well, we do have local summer of code, and if there's ideas for projects, all we need is someone to be "supervisor" for code results and so on
16:19.55mickeyli have been toying with the idea to run as FSO team for gsoc
16:20.05Tm_Tye
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16:25.37Tm_Tmickeyl: anyway, I'm more than happy to provide students and partly local mentoring if you can provide projects and code supervision
16:26.35mickeylsounds not too bad, let me discuss this with the team
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16:29.44Tm_Tmickeyl: as, I know about working and our local processes but (your) codebase is unknown
16:30.46morgnerdoes anyone know where to get a bb recipe for python-crypto?
16:31.29mickeylmorgner: you mean another one than the one in OE?
16:33.07morgnermickeyl: not, this would be sufficient. but can't find one here: git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded
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16:35.09mickeylhttp://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/tree/packages/python/python-pycrypto_2.0.1.bb is not what you're looking for?
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16:44.25morgnermickeyl: this seems to be the right one. i was looking for something named python-crypto
16:44.28morgnerthx
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17:21.07SM2kI installed diversity-wifi, and decided it wasn't useful, so I removed it. as a result, iwlist eth0 scan returns "Failed to read scan data: resource temporarily unavailable". reinstalling diversity-wifi makes eth0 usable again
17:21.51SM2kis it messing with network files in /etc? that seems suboptimal.
17:22.22SM2kafter all, uninstalling a package doesn't make the hardware go away
17:22.45lindi-SM2k: i don't think packages are allowed to modify files in /etc without asking user
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17:24.13SM2klindi-: I wouldn't know for sure. I did reboot at one point and that didn't fix it, so whatever's gone wonky is probably somehow config related (vs unlaoding a driver or something)
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17:29.17johnsu01Am I doing something wrong or has the fix for the zhone python dependency issue not yet hit the FSO feed?
17:29.37johnsu01We talked about this last week, but opkg install zhone with either the testing or unstable feed still gives me the libpython2.5 error.
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17:31.45SM2kwas reading a discussion on http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1095866|a1095866 ... they make it sound like the firmware for the wifi card will never be updatable on the freerunner. is that true?
17:32.05SpeedEvilprobably
17:32.12SpeedEvillots of hardware has ROM firmware
17:32.59moritzso far I came to the conclusion that all audio players I have tried on the FR suck in one way or the other. Does anyone know of a player that is actually usable?
17:33.21johnsu01I've been using gmpc + mpd
17:33.36johnsu01other than the volume control which is too hard to use with the stylus, it's been good for me
17:34.00Zorkmanmoritz: you could try mokoko
17:34.06Zorkmanit works, but has almost no features
17:34.15Zorkman(no random, no volume control...)
17:34.26Zorkmanjust play pause, next and previous and scrolling through the playlist
17:34.41Zorkmanalso nog "add file" button or whatever, you just set your patch in the config file
17:34.48moritzI would be happy with something that turns my FR into a minimalistic mp3 player. :-)
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17:35.12moritzzorkman: sounds good. :-)
17:35.43Zorkmanmoritz: http://code.google.com/p/om-mediaplayer/wiki/Mokoko
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17:39.47Wonka.oO( neoPod anyone? )
17:40.06Zorkman?
17:40.59Wonkahypothetical name for some mp3 player sw for the neo
17:41.08leinirAmarok Mobile Companion ;)
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17:42.01ZorkmanI don't understand that a good player hasn't been made by now... seems like there would be a ton of apps to port and even more people to want one :)
17:42.43SpeedEvilNo one software stack.
17:42.57SpeedEvilNo clear notice of what is not being worked on by OM.
17:43.36moritzI would guess that an audio player isn't tightly boundled with a specific software stack.
17:43.47moritzs/with/to/
17:43.49SpeedEvilmorgner: that, and mp3 can't be included for legal reasons
17:44.10moritzwell, that's a detail.
17:44.28Tm_Tmp3 issue is irrelevant
17:44.39Tm_Twe all do use only ogg vorbis anyway
17:45.06moritzGiven a sane audio player that makes use of the appropriate APIs adding mp3 support could be archived by installing just some additional codecs.
17:45.10moritz(as far as i know)
17:45.30leinirYup
17:46.17moritzI've got another question...
17:46.32leinirThe problem is that you really want to integrate a music player with whatever music playback system's being used, so either you develop a plugin-based system (read: use phonon), or you end up potentially having to change the core of your player at some point
17:46.45leinirs/music/media/
17:46.50moritzI'm not familiar with USB. My question is: would it be possible to make my FR act just like an usb mass storage device (usb stick)?
17:47.15moritzSo that I could plug it into my computer and it gets mounted and I can simply transfer files with cp?
17:47.26leinirYup, there's a mode-switch somewhere for it...
17:47.41moritzWow.
17:47.47leinirIf you use one of the OM stacks, there's an opk somewhere that does it :)
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17:48.30morgnerSpeedEvil: legal reasons?
17:49.12leinirmorgner: Idiotic software patent stupidity
17:49.53morgnerleinir: got a link?
17:50.22levelzeromorgner, http://www.heise-online.co.uk/news/MP3-patent-problem-at-Openmoko--/111973
17:52.38morgnerstrange: a crypto-tool, that depends on a mp3-lib...
17:53.10moritz?!
17:53.36morgnerpython-pycrypto depends on the package libgmp3
17:54.35moritzthats not mp3
17:54.37morgnerhehe, sorry my fault.
17:54.44morgneri just saw that myself
17:54.46moritzi guess that's the GNU bignum library
17:54.51morgneryup
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18:04.31skamsterhello there.. i've got a question
18:04.42skamsteri had some strange problems..
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18:05.49skamsterwith every distro for my sd-card, it's the same problem.. every said, i had just a read-only-system..
18:06.11skamstershr work's no, but om didn't work's
18:06.34skamsteri formated the first partition with vfat (the kernel loaded successfull)
18:06.42skamsterand the second with ext3
18:07.08skamsterbut i don't think, that ext3 is a read-only-system?
18:07.14skamster:p
18:08.09moritzweird
18:10.02mmontourskamster: try something like "mount / -o rw,remount". Also check your kernel boot parameters (e.g. in u-boot) to see if it's passing "ro" (which means to mount the root filesystem read-only).
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18:11.53skamsterehm.. could you give me a link in wiki with a description?
18:12.08skamsteri search shortly, but didn't found it..
18:12.22skamsterand i didn't hack something in u-boot around
18:12.56skamsterbut i buy from another moko-user, so everything is possible ;)
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18:15.10mmontourMaybe start with http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader_commands#Environment (specifically look at the "bootargs" environment variable)
18:16.03skamstersetenv menu_9 Boot from microSD (FAT+ext3): setenv bootargs \${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext3 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5 \${mtdparts}\; mmcinit\; fatload mmc 1 0x32000000 \${sd_image_name}\; bootm 0x32000000
18:16.08skamsteris it this line?
18:16.10skamster:$
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18:17.50mmontourYes. The 'setenv bootargs ... \;' part is what specifies the parameters passed to the kernel.
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18:19.33CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-gsm0710muxd * r53afc4c1428e 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): binding at least compiles now
18:19.34CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-gsm0710muxd * r5ee7d6fafe10 10/src/multiplexer.vala: more
18:19.35CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-gsm0710muxd * r309b846dcd6a 10/src/ (main.vala multiplexer.vala):
18:19.35CIA-49freesmartphone.org: compiles and runs
18:19.37CIA-49freesmartphone.org: NOTE: don't name a vala-function 'read', this will lead to funny SIGSEGV
18:19.39CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-gsm0710muxd * rc42fab6914e7 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): add posixextra vapi and start wrapping read and write
18:19.42CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-gsm0710muxd * rfff66a00055d 10/ (Makefile.am gsm0710/gsm0710.vapi src/multiplexer.vala): complete read/write cycle to/from 0710 core<-->device, turn int results to bool in 0710 core mapping
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18:25.09skamsteryeah.. i've installed the bootloader new, now it seem's to work.. :D
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18:49.08mrgarlichas anyone had bad luck charging from other AC to USB chargers (other then the one that came with)?
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18:54.44_charly_mrgarlic: bad luck? you mean with auto-recognizing for fast-charge?
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19:06.05skamsterehm, did someone know, where the links for the moko-menü are saved?
19:06.57henkmenue? :)
19:07.00skamsterin shr
19:07.09peter_billume icons ?
19:07.11skamsteryes.. sry, bad english, tired head
19:07.17skamsterexactly
19:07.21henkanother german speaking :)
19:07.23skamster:)
19:07.30_charly_/usr/share/applications/
19:07.31skamsteryou too?
19:07.33skamster:d
19:07.42skamsterthx
19:08.04henkskamster: yep, .de not .ch though ;)
19:09.29AlinermediaHello everybody, is OE the only way to compile the Xglamo server?
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19:10.14skamster:D
19:10.33skamsterthe normaly german is also easyier than english for me
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19:11.32henkskamster: ah you're not from the german part?
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19:11.43skamsterdoch..
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19:12.06skamsternormales deutsch ist für mich einfacher als normales englisch
19:12.09skamster;)
19:12.14skamsterdas wollt ich sagen
19:12.20skamsterauch wenn ich aus der ch bin
19:12.37henkah ok :)
19:12.50henkthere is a german OM community btw: #neo1973-germany
19:13.01skamster:D
19:13.07skamsteri like to learn english
19:13.09skamster;)
19:13.45henki'm not telling you to leave here and join there ;)
19:14.41skamster:D
19:15.28skamsterbut.. ehm.. with the icon in the illume-menue.. it doesn't work.. there is a tangogps.desktop-file, but i didn't see it on the moko
19:16.19skamstersome ideas?
19:16.47skamsterit's strange, for me..  i just wanted to update tgps from 0.9.3 to 0.9.5
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19:17.17skamsterand then, i make a downgrade, cause it need depences i didn't have
19:18.21CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rfc11a940555d 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/__init__.py: opimd: do not mess with system bus registration, the controller is doing that for you
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19:19.11_charly_skamster: try to change the Categories line in the desktop file
19:19.51_charly_i read on the list that the correct category is Applications, not Application
19:20.24_charly_don't know if that works for you, but it's easy to try it :)
19:20.59skamsteryeah, it work's
19:21.01skamster:d
19:21.05_charly_great :)
19:21.05mrgarliccharly_: by bad luck i mean its not working!
19:21.11skamsteryour my 5-minute-hero :D
19:21.38_charly_hehe :)
19:23.59_charly_hm, i have 9 .desktop files on my freerunner, only one of them has category Applications
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19:24.37Sharwin_F_charly_, but have other categories which also makes the app to be displayed :P
19:24.48_charly_well, 9 files with Application
19:26.01_charly_yes, i'm just wondering. if there has to be a "s" at the end there shouldn't be that much wrong .desktop files
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19:29.47CIA-49freesmartphone.org: otimed: alarm trigger is now calling org.freesmartphone.Notification.Alarm()
19:29.47CIA-49freesmartphone.org: on the root object
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20:07.28toggles_wanyone know how to get mkfs.vfat in SHR
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20:10.24johnsu01needs a newer frameworkd on SHR..
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20:31.43spaetzAinulindale: if you give me magic trac powers I can close some obviously obsolete trac tickets such as http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/167
20:32.08spaetzBTW, is the correct way to request a version bump (of tangogps in that case) as a trac ticket?
20:32.28sylar91hi is it possible to connect the neo via ssh to a pc via bluetooth?
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20:38.18spaetzsylar91: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Bluetooth_networking_with_a_Linux_system
20:38.21spaetz?
20:39.00sylar91spaetz: in this way the ssh is running via bluetooth?
20:39.40sylar91wow thanks
20:40.09spaetzyou might have to modify the dropbear config to listen on the bluetooth network interface
20:40.16spaetznever done it myself.
20:40.32sylar91spaetz: thanks a lot! now i'm trying...
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20:42.24Ainulindalespaetz: Yes I can give you this kind of power
20:42.30AinulindaleAnd yes, ticket is correct
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20:50.22spaetzok, will file a ticket for the new tangogps version than, thanks. my trac username is "spaetz"
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21:16.42doopahi everyone
21:17.07doopaI'm looking for advice on how to register a sim on the freerunner
21:17.19doopaI have a german vodafone sim card
21:17.42doopaat the moment when I try to make a call it says that the sim is not present
21:17.57doopaany ideas on what tools to run?
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21:20.22levelzerodoopa, i use a prepaid card from t-mobile d. registered at once in the network because of disabled pin...
21:21.26doopayou think the pin might be the problem
21:21.35doopaI'd really hate to have to get a new number.
21:21.42levelzeronever tried with enabled pin
21:21.48doopaHow much was the new sim?
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21:22.19soul9doopa: you think it's a 3G sim?
21:22.20doopaI'm pretty sure the pin is enabled though I have used the same sim on different phones without problems
21:22.22levelzeroits an older sim i had still on a shelf
21:22.27doopaah
21:22.37doopasoul: it could be 3G
21:22.54soul9the chip on the 3G sims are much smaller
21:23.06soul9so you could see the differenrence imo
21:23.17soul9(at least that's what they write on the wiki)
21:23.42soul9oh, and _check the wiki ;-D_
21:24.17doopasoul9 I will check again
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21:25.19soul9if it is, you just go and tell them you want a non-3G sim, i don't think you need to loose your number
21:27.44doopahas everyone elses sim cards just worked
21:27.46doopa?
21:28.06doopathis is the only part of the freerunner I can't get working and its rather embarrassing
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21:29.21spydonAll sim cards that I have tried have worked perfectly
21:29.35doopa:(
21:30.09spydonwhere do you live?
21:30.49doopaHeidelberg, DE
21:31.03spydonokay
21:31.10doopaBut I have a UK and Ireland sim I tried there as well
21:31.15doopathough it was 3G
21:31.22doopaI wasn't expecting it to work
21:31.34Defiant-doopa: What provider did you tried? Asking so I can avoid this one :)
21:31.44doopaI thought my german one was 2G as it was the cheapest one I could fine
21:31.45doopad
21:32.10doopadefiant - its vodafone. Though to be honest I think most german telcos are crap
21:34.04Defiant-doopa: might be. I'm living without a mobile phone for a few years now
21:34.16Defiant-(not counting the gta02)
21:35.13doopadefiant - while the freerunner is mobile I don't know if its right to call it a phone yet ;)
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21:41.38doopalooking at the wiki - can't tell the diff between working and non-working
21:41.40doopahttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards
21:41.55doopaAnyone care to point out what I may be missing
21:42.14doopamust remember to take photo of sim.
21:42.32Defiant-second row?
21:43.02Defiant-sorry col
21:43.35doopayeah - I think I'll update the wiki with photos for this one.
21:43.54doopaI read about flashing the firmware - anyone know what the deal is with that?
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21:47.06PaulFertser_doopa: flashing GSM firmware?
21:48.02doopapaul: Yeah
21:48.44PaulFertser_doopa: the deal with that is that if you have a 2G-capable 3G SIM card, it will work after you flash GSM modem with the moko10 version.
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21:49.08PaulFertser_doopa: if you don't flash, it won't work.
21:49.49doopapaul: The page about that looks pretty scary atm
21:50.05PaulFertser_doopa: please cite the scariest part
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21:51.33doopathere are chances to _completely_ brick your GSM modem
21:51.50Tig|'nings Dave
21:52.01PaulFertser_doopa: there're chances to completely destroy your FR if you drop it from a skyscraper.
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21:52.10doopapaul: I just want to know if it will be improved soon.
21:52.41doopapaul: I understand. I wanted to gauge how serious this warning was. Like to know how many other people have done the same and it worked
21:53.46PaulFertser_doopa: If you weren't too scared to read, you'll see that "there are chances to _completely_ brick your GSM modem on messing around with FLUID". It's amazingly easy to avoid -- DON'T mess with FLUID. That's all.
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21:55.16PaulFertser_doopa: the firmware is there. And is working for many people. All the necessary utilities are available. The procedure was tested by various users. Calypso _has_ ROM bootloader.
21:55.40doopapaul: So in the section Launch the Fluid binary is that all one line?
21:56.49PaulFertser_doopa: that's 3 lines. In bash scripting you can type \ at the end of the line and it means that the following line is appended to the first (\ vanishes).
21:57.02PaulFertser_s/bash/shell/
21:58.03doopabut I could type it in one line
21:58.14PaulFertser_doopa: sure, without \
21:58.42doopayeah
22:00.15doopapaul: and I can do this all over ssh?
22:00.48PaulFertser_doopa: i think that's the easiest way.
22:00.57PaulFertser_doopa: and the only recommended
22:02.07doopapaul: thanks
22:02.52PaulFertser_doopa: you're welcome. Good luck with update, read the wiki carefully and follow the instructions. If something goes wrong, there's always a possibility to recover, just come here and ask.
22:03.26doopapaul: I'll let you know. Think I'll grab a smoke and a cuppa first.
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22:04.59PaulFertser_doopa: and "Don't panic" :)
22:05.55doopawhere's my towel ;)
22:07.12spydon42!
22:11.10VilleWittnotes the discussion of 3G cards... He has one that did not play well.
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22:11.35VilleWittMy neighrbors SIM worked flawless in my phone - with pin
22:11.50VilleWittMaby that upgrade would fix my sim card probs...
22:12.52VilleWittbtw, it's even pictured under "works" in the wiki...
22:12.52VilleWittPaulFertser_: How many success have you heard of ?
22:16.36PaulFertser_VilleWitt: i didn't count. What i can say is that there're no known to developers cases of completely unsuccessful attempt.
22:17.36VilleWittk
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22:18.34VilleWittbtw, is there a way to see whitch firmware is already present? Mine was delivered quite resently...?
22:18.49PaulFertser_VilleWitt: there is. What distro are you running atm?
22:18.59VilleWittDebian
22:19.27VilleWittand also the 2008.12 on internal
22:19.45doopapaul: when it says to ensure nothing else is using the modem do I run lsof /dev/whatever
22:20.26PaulFertser_doopa: what distro are you running?
22:20.40doopa2008.12
22:21.06PaulFertser_VilleWitt: does mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetInfo work?
22:21.28PaulFertser_doopa: i don't recommend and will not guide the process with that distro.
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22:22.35VilleWittjep
22:22.37doopapaul: fair enough
22:22.56PaulFertser_VilleWitt: alternatively, you can launch mickeyterm and issue AT+CGMR command there.
22:23.09doopapaul: are you openmoko employee?
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22:23.18PaulFertser_doopa: NO :)
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22:24.00doopapaul: what difference will the distro make to flashing the firmware on the chip - just curious
22:24.03VilleWittMoko9-beta1
22:24.12VilleWittnice - thx
22:24.55PaulFertser_VilleWitt: you better upgrade. Better using ROM bootloader, there were some reports that moko9beta1 is difficult. But ROM works regardless.
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22:25.43VilleWittSo, you are telling me thath I should (no warranty blabla) go for 10 ?
22:26.19VilleWitt...difficult, how?
22:26.37PaulFertser_doopa: mostly unexpected access to modem hardware (like what if some script decides to restart qpe?)
22:27.00PaulFertser_doopa: if you trust your distro and knowledge, any distro will work. But i don't trust 2008.x.
22:27.12VilleWittbtw, bluetooth keyboard is really nice and works flawless!
22:27.42doopapaul: :(
22:27.47PaulFertser_VilleWitt: I'm not sure. Probably usual bootloader didn't react as it should or something. Maybe it doesn't matter at all. But you better upgrade to moko10. Use ROM bootloader.
22:27.57PaulFertser_doopa: 2008.x is dead anyway, forget about it.
22:28.51VilleWittzhone rocks... That isn't avalible on 2008.12 is it?
22:29.02PaulFertser_For sure
22:30.06Wonkapardon my german... http://www.heise.de/tr/Abhoersicher-dank-Offenheit--/artikel/121937
22:30.34Wonkathere's a company selling open source gsm crypto phones
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22:30.57Wonkai'd like it if openmoko was able to place calls to them
22:31.04Wonka(and other way round)
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22:31.11Wonka(with crypto of course)
22:33.22PaulFertser_VilleWitt: i did upgrade from debian. But i was sure that nothing will mess with the modem and its power interfaces.
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22:35.28VilleWittWell, I could play with the init levels and make a minimal debian... That would btw be handy when testing new applications...
22:35.52VilleWittWonka: It's says the software is open source... Is it FOSS?
22:35.56haslampaul: I'm only just beginning so I wanted to see what would work first before playing too much
22:36.14haslampaul: Which distro (s) do people recommend.
22:37.24PaulFertser_haslam: for GSM firmware flashing? Read the wiki page carefully, that's mandatory if you want to flash. (it is fso-console image)
22:38.00VilleWittwell, have had my phone for 3 days now, have tested almost all - not console - but debian is by far the better atm. It is however, not a "phone like" experience
22:38.11haslampaul: Its already flashed ;) no problems
22:38.24haslampaul: but about the verification stage at the bottom...
22:38.38VilleWitthaslam: what distro did you use?
22:38.46PaulFertser_haslam: what's about that?
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22:39.11haslamville: 2008.12
22:39.44haslampaul: is the last command missing some backslashes ?
22:40.15PaulFertser_haslam: echo -en 'AT+CGMR\r' >/dev/ttySAC0 ? no, it doesn't.
22:40.42haslampaul: k
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22:44.06PaulFertser_VilleWitt: if i was to perform gsm flashing right now, i'd just killed zhone. Then verified that gsm0710muxd is also killed (frameworkd does that after the last consumer of GSM resource vanishes). And then did the flashing as described. There's always ROM bootloader if something goes wrong. Use my advices at your own risk ;)
22:45.38VilleWittyeah - just wanna see what has happend the last 6months so that I can make a jugdement whenever asked... takes some time, but it's nice to know what going on...
22:45.52VilleWittCan't wait for actual app. development thou...
22:46.10VilleWittlikes Ada!
22:47.22haslamville: Dear god help us. But seriously - thats the kind of crap got me interested in this project. Running random stuff on a tiny little device.
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22:47.51PaulFertser_Good luck guys, i gotta sleep :) See you tomorrow :)
22:47.51haslamAll: I have signal and carrier infos
22:47.52WonkaVilleWitt: it is not FOSS. it is only open for purposes of review. but it should be possible to write compatible software...
22:48.08haslampaul: thanks
22:48.20VilleWittWonka: yeah, I guess
22:49.06VilleWitthaslam: Well, im just a advocate of strong typing... Can't help it I like Ada!
22:49.18VilleWitt:p
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22:57.45henkwhat kind of device is aux/power button to the kernel? what handles a press of those buttons?
22:59.38Tig|henk:  no idea off the top of my head but a good area to start looking is googling the SHR development site about how they got the power button to show up as an x event
23:03.50VilleWittwell, it would make sense if it was "button"... have seen it in normal gentoo and debian....
23:06.53VilleWittPaulFertser_: killing zhone made the panel icon do look "disabled", as frameworkd shut it down... Good sign, good sign indeed...
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23:25.29CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r4bd27f784af3 10/framework/ (config.py subsystem.py): track busmap in config for simple access to the proper bus connection from each and every module
23:25.30CIA-49freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rb06930b7ca96 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (5 files):
23:25.30CIA-49freesmartphone.org: opimd: fix object paths appearing. This has been broken since
23:25.30CIA-49freesmartphone.org: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commit;h=8551825260f31baea9b8b3900d92e4e98d4c6a17
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23:27.32henkTig|: good idea, thanks
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23:29.06Tig|I remember seeing it over in that direction,  apologies I am only popping on here when time allows
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23:42.34olifordhi
23:43.05olifordis there anyone in here who works on the openembedded openmoko-image
23:43.52olifordI've just build it for my ipaq 21x port and it takes a bit of fiddling
23:44.28olifordgenerally speaking though, its pretty good, its a lot better then the other iamges I've used (gpe opie etc)
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