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| 01:32.31 | swab | hi! i just got a used gta02 and flashed it to 2008.12 (from 2007.2). now the usb networking doesnt work (according to the same guide i used before). is there something i have overlooked or a known issue? |
| 01:33.45 | AntonTakk1 | swab: you sure it is setup properly on your desktop? |
| 01:34.22 | AntonTakk1 | swab: also, there have been problems in the past with usb networking not working on the first boot after flashing, dunno if that still applies thou |
| 01:34.33 | swab | AntonTakk, it worked before the flashing and i also tried doing all steps again |
| 01:34.40 | swab | i also rebooted several times now.. |
| 01:34.57 | swab | is it a difference which bootloader i use? |
| 01:35.17 | AntonTakk1 | shouldn't be, i have used both bootloaders |
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| 01:46.16 | brian__ | did u reboot it 1 time? |
| 01:46.25 | brian__ | ok |
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| 02:35.52 | Full_Name | Hello |
| 02:37.14 | Full_Name | I just goy my GTA02 today. |
| 02:37.40 | CVirus | congrats |
| 02:39.10 | Full_Name | Thanks starting to learn its a little difficult. Im also new to Linux (Ubuntu). |
| 02:40.50 | Full_Name | my hardware revision is v5. how do i see which distro it has? |
| 02:41.22 | CVirus | no clue .. sorry :-) |
| 02:42.03 | Full_Name | ok im going to keep on reading |
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| 03:05.37 | rooly | so raster, still puttiung e on things |
| 03:12.38 | khaije1 | any response/feeling about Qt being LGPL'd? |
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| 03:16.41 | mwester | khaije1: has no bearing on any of the current distros for the freerunner. |
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| 03:40.47 | Dave | yo rooly |
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| 04:41.20 | rooly | yo dave |
| 04:41.22 | rooly | you called? |
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| 07:00.02 | gecco | good morning |
| 07:02.26 | Dave | Ze Kaizer |
| 07:02.34 | rooly | you |
| 07:02.37 | rooly | hey you there |
| 07:02.37 | Dave | rooly! |
| 07:02.38 | rooly | stop |
| 07:02.40 | Dave | :p |
| 07:02.49 | rooly | what for call you did? |
| 07:02.55 | Dave | Wtf? |
| 07:03.03 | Dave | How much have you been drinking? |
| 07:03.07 | rooly | quote yo rooly unquote |
| 07:03.08 | rooly | nah |
| 07:03.13 | Dave | :p |
| 07:03.18 | rooly | i always speak like that |
| 07:03.19 | rooly | well |
| 07:03.21 | rooly | not always |
| 07:03.22 | rooly | but often |
| 07:03.33 | Dave | heh |
| 07:04.16 | rooly | i found a really cool online bok |
| 07:04.17 | rooly | book |
| 07:04.20 | rooly | quite a good read actually |
| 07:04.27 | Dave | and that would be? |
| 07:04.33 | rooly | its...over...here |
| 07:04.42 | rooly | schoolforadventurers.com or such |
| 07:04.47 | Dave | o_O |
| 07:05.05 | rooly | http://www.schoolforadventurers.com |
| 07:05.17 | Dave | Okay, interesting. |
| 07:05.21 | Dave | I'll have to take you up on it later. |
| 07:05.24 | rooly | quite |
| 07:05.27 | rooly | its a good read |
| 07:05.36 | rooly | in 100 pages i've only found 3 or 4 typos |
| 07:05.47 | rooly | but even beyond that, its well written |
| 07:05.53 | Dave | hah:) |
| 07:05.54 | Dave | good shit |
| 07:05.59 | Dave | hey, at least it's not a blog, right? |
| 07:06.06 | Dave | or worse |
| 07:06.12 | rooly | lol |
| 07:20.16 | rooly | great book |
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| 08:56.04 | root_at | hi, i have a problem. i finally got my gsm working, could phone people, get phoned etc...also after some reboots. but the last reboot doesnt work, there shows no sim request up..and after boot there is no gsm process, and at shutdown he says that he cant kill some processes, one is called gsps compatility daemon and the other is some framework thing...what did go wrong? |
| 08:56.47 | Wonka | maybe frameworkd didn't start for some reason. try rebooting again. |
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| 08:56.57 | root_at | also did try for about 5 times |
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| 08:57.08 | root_at | always the same |
| 08:57.41 | root_at | i thought i could start gsm by /etc/init.d/gsm0710muxd start, but this doesnt work |
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| 08:58.27 | Wonka | nope. |
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| 08:59.02 | Wonka | do a "ps ax" and look for a line with "python /usr/bin/frameworkd" |
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| 08:59.14 | rooly1 | hold on |
| 08:59.27 | rooly1 | root_at: whats your os |
| 08:59.31 | root_at | shr |
| 08:59.38 | rooly1 | oic |
| 08:59.45 | rooly1 | nvm then] |
| 08:59.49 | Wonka | <- using SHR too |
| 09:00.06 | rooly1 | there is a known issue with 2008.12 adn gsm710muxd |
| 09:00.36 | root_at | there shows up an line with "pythong /usr/bin/frameworkd" |
| 09:00.44 | Wonka | i wish SHR would provide a newer frameworkd though... |
| 09:00.46 | Wonka | 2009.01.17 06:15:04 ogsmd INFO <UnsolicitedResponseChannel via /dev/pts/1>: unhandled unsolicited data incoming: '%CGREG: 1,"2781","A2AE",1' |
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| 09:01.02 | Wonka | root_at: with one "g" less, probably :) |
| 09:01.09 | root_at | yeah ; ) |
| 09:01.19 | Wonka | ok, then frameworkd is there. |
| 09:01.26 | Wonka | is there also a "ophonekitd"? |
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| 09:01.44 | root_at | yes |
| 09:02.20 | root_at | what this gsps compatility daemon? |
| 09:02.37 | Wonka | gps compatibility daemon |
| 09:03.03 | Wonka | it's a daemon that translates the dbus gps interface to the gpsd gps interface |
| 09:03.14 | Wonka | for clients who know gpsd but not the dbus interface |
| 09:03.23 | Wonka | tangogps, for example |
| 09:03.43 | root_at | i dont use tangogps atm, and i am not sure if this came up before |
| 09:03.48 | Wonka | the "GPS and Map" application |
| 09:04.02 | root_at | yeah, i know this tangogps |
| 09:04.19 | root_at | would it help if i reflash the whole thing? |
| 09:04.32 | Wonka | if this compatibility daemon is not running, it will hinder nothing but GPS |
| 09:04.47 | Wonka | so no catastrophic failure :) |
| 09:05.03 | root_at | but there is also something with frameworkd... |
| 09:05.15 | Wonka | might help. don't know. didn't reflash for about a month, always just upgraded. |
| 09:05.56 | Wonka | have you read /var/log/frameworkd.log, looking for error messages? |
| 09:08.00 | root_at | 2009.01.17 09:59:40 frameworkd.subsystem WARNING Can't claim bus name 'org.freesmartphone.otimed', check configuration in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/frameworkd.conf |
| 09:08.02 | root_at | 2009.01.17 09:59:40 frameworkd.subsystem WARNING service otimed doesn't have any busnames registered |
| 09:08.04 | root_at | 2009.01.17 10:00:00 odeviced WARNING (could not read from '/sys/class/power_supply/bat-th-gta01/present': [Errno 19] No such device) |
| 09:08.05 | root_at | 2009.01.17 10:04:49 odeviced WARNING (could not read from '/sys/class/power_supply/bat-th-gta01/present': [Errno 19] No such device |
| 09:08.43 | root_at | oh, also some errors : O |
| 09:09.37 | root_at | http://nopaste.biz/62280 |
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| 09:12.46 | root_at | is there anyhing very bad, that could be the reason? |
| 09:14.29 | lindi- | root_at: newer kernel? |
| 09:15.11 | root_at | and in the ophonekitd.log is also one error, he claims about "failed to handle dbus error: user: 1.3 already requested GSM, 76 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 32 Scale 2.000 |
| 09:15.37 | root_at | i have flashed uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin |
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| 09:17.45 | root_at | lindi-: which should i flash? |
| 09:18.41 | lindi- | root_at: what was a question |
| 09:18.52 | lindi- | root_at: ah you answered |
| 09:18.59 | lindi- | root_at: but that answer does not tell my what the kernel is |
| 09:19.17 | lindi- | root_at: git branch and version number would tell |
| 09:19.23 | lindi- | s/my/me/ |
| 09:21.08 | root_at | kernel-2.6.24 |
| 09:26.09 | root_at | lindi-: so i just need to reflash the kernel? |
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| 09:56.35 | DDevine | Greetings. |
| 09:56.45 | root_at | hi |
| 09:57.02 | DDevine | Is anybody running OM 2008.x on a Motorola A1200? |
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| 09:57.43 | DDevine | I have seen that 2007.x works, but I know there has been some changes between 2007 and 2008. |
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| 10:06.38 | PBeck | ahoi |
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| 10:12.14 | DDevine | I hope nobody replied while I was gone :( |
| 10:12.23 | DDevine | Did they? - |
| 10:12.31 | mirko-paroli | nope |
| 10:12.35 | mirko-paroli | there was no responses |
| 10:12.38 | mirko-paroli | sry |
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| 10:19.52 | DDevine | Do you have an idea of what problems there could be with the upgrade? |
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| 10:37.04 | jopk | hi |
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| 10:42.37 | jopk | I'm trying to play videos on my freerunner ... 320*240 works quite well... with full 640 resolution the video is small but fine. If I change display to 320:240 res, the quality is much worse. on the black regions you can see grey stripes flimmering. any idea why? is there a way to make the whole display black, and play the vid on top of it? because the stripes match with the window behind... |
| 10:42.39 | jopk | ...the vid output. |
| 10:45.22 | root_at | which player r u using? |
| 10:46.30 | jopk | mplayer, without glamo |
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| 10:51.18 | ernst | hello i need help |
| 10:51.31 | ernst | i flashed uboot first time with qi-s3c2442 on fr |
| 10:51.47 | ernst | but i can not see the ubbot menu |
| 10:51.54 | ernst | help me please |
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| 11:00.06 | Defiant- | gwaterpos is a nice idea |
| 11:00.10 | Defiant- | *pas |
| 11:00.53 | bipak | yes :D |
| 11:01.00 | bipak | but its slow :( |
| 11:01.17 | bipak | should be more smooth |
| 11:01.32 | root_at | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:04.02 | max_posedon | ernst, Main feature of Qi, that it doesn't have any menu. |
| 11:04.27 | max_posedon | If you want nor-uboot menu, you can do "AUX+POWER" |
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| 11:12.31 | ernst | Thank you very much !!!!!! |
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| 11:15.46 | PaulFertser_ | ernst: be prepared, NOR u-boot version is very-very old and therefore has some limitations. Don't count on it that much. |
| 11:17.29 | root_at | i want to install qtextended on my card, do i need to upgrade uboot? or isnt it necessary to do that if i use fat16? |
| 11:18.48 | max_posedon | root_at, qtextended can be installed only on jffs(nand) or ext2(ext3) on mmc. uboot upgrade isn't required. |
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| 11:19.46 | root_at | but i read that the old version of uboot cant load from a ext2 partition |
| 11:20.16 | dns | you can use vfat with your uimage.bin and an ext3 with the original uboot |
| 11:20.41 | root_at | i tried to mount the card with vfat but it said wrong fs type |
| 11:21.15 | dns | you need to make the partitions yourself |
| 11:21.25 | root_at | i did, with fdisk |
| 11:21.30 | root_at | i also wrote them |
| 11:21.49 | dns | then mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 |
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| 12:36.05 | agg1n | why does the accelerometer input laggs if i rotate the FR fast? |
| 12:38.04 | agg1n | if i do hexdump /dev/input/event3 and then rotate my FR the output stops for a second and then goes on :/ |
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| 12:41.46 | Defiant- | agg1n: this is a known bug |
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| 13:07.03 | PaulFertser_ | agg1n: accelerometers should work fine with andy-tracking, also they has a configurable threshold. |
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| 13:07.37 | agg1n | ok, thanks! :) |
| 13:09.51 | gislan | is it normal that svn's trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/openmoko/download.sh fails to locate kernel and rootfs ? |
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| 13:14.06 | zogg_ | python libs are placed under /usr/lib/python2.5, right? |
| 13:15.07 | Mortak | hi |
| 13:15.39 | Sharwin_F | oh I see there's a huge upgrade on shr unstable :D |
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| 13:45.23 | Sharwin_F | hmm after uprading most of the apps crash at launching and the GUI to put the PIn number doesn't show anymore :S |
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| 13:50.51 | Sharwin_F | It looks like some packages doesn't upgrade (pygtk, gtk+, initscripts-openmoko among other) |
| 13:51.56 | Sharwin_F | here's the error output: http://pastebin.com/m208fb918 |
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| 13:56.44 | Sharwin_F | and apps crash because of gtk... |
| 13:56.45 | Sharwin_F | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.45 | Sharwin_F | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.46 | Sharwin_F | ImportError: No module named gtk |
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| 14:03.31 | jones | hey folks |
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| 14:12.48 | PaulFertser_ | Hey guys :) Does anybody want to comment on patch to Qi documentation describing interactive UI? https://paulfertser.is-a-geek.org/files/qi-improve-ui/0001-Describe-interactive-UI-in-README.patch |
| 14:12.52 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r2bec920ce0d2 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ (gpschannel.py om.py): |
| 14:12.52 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: ogpsd: fix disabling the device when it was never enabled before. |
| 14:12.52 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: Daniel, please review this! |
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| 14:14.03 | mickeyl | PaulFertser_: Qi is raigned by Andy Green, no one else has the power to tweak that |
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| 14:14.07 | mickeyl | please put it on the mailing olist |
| 14:14.09 | mickeyl | reigned, even |
| 14:14.50 | PaulFertser_ | mickeyl: I know that :) It's just that i prepared a patch to the documentation and wanted user feedback for the wording. |
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| 14:14.59 | mickeyl | ah |
| 14:15.04 | mickeyl | reads |
| 14:15.43 | mickeyl | s/a debugging parameters/debugging parameters/ |
| 14:15.59 | PaulFertser_ | sure :) |
| 14:16.04 | mickeyl | reads well |
| 14:16.05 | mickeyl | thansk! |
| 14:16.29 | PaulFertser_ | mickeyl: the POWER button patch is ready but i've not send it to Andy yet. |
| 14:16.36 | mickeyl | cool |
| 14:16.41 | PaulFertser_ | mickeyl: thanks for your feedback. |
| 14:16.43 | mickeyl | may i ask about the async mux thing? |
| 14:16.56 | muxe | mow |
| 14:17.03 | mickeyl | heh |
| 14:17.05 | mickeyl | no pun |
| 14:17.20 | mickeyl | s/mux/muxer/ ;) |
| 14:18.17 | PaulFertser_ | I'm going to try to do it today evening. I've already tried to fix the ugliness of flushing in watchdog, but failed. I've sent a message to glib devs asking for clarifications. As to proper channel allocation scheme (don't return until the channel is open), i'll try to do it today's evening, thanks for the reminder. |
| 14:18.43 | mickeyl | excellent. |
| 14:18.47 | mickeyl | appreciating you working on that |
| 14:19.05 | PaulFertser_ | Any news from mato, btw? |
| 14:19.13 | mickeyl | no word since weeks |
| 14:19.25 | mickeyl | i guess he dived deep into 07.10 ;) |
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| 14:32.13 | mickeyl | one of these days, i want to continue evaluating the qtopia muxer code |
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| 14:32.40 | mickeyl | i'm into code layout asthetics and this looks so much cleaner than ours |
| 14:38.23 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * ra8d89b8ff3e6 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/om.py: ogspd: according to Werner Almesberger, you need to turn on gpsd in order to turn it off *sigh* |
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| 15:01.27 | imme-emosol | How could I pre-install maps on the openmoko? |
| 15:01.42 | Dave | Download the maptiles |
| 15:01.53 | imme-emosol | I pointed the diversity-maps directory onto the /media/card/ path. |
| 15:01.53 | Dave | tangogps has a download function built in, which is convenient :) |
| 15:02.03 | Dave | okay |
| 15:02.06 | imme-emosol | So, maybe I should just install tangogps... |
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| 15:02.13 | Dave | Yeah, I'm not sure how to do it with diversity :) |
| 15:02.18 | Dave | Yeah you should just try it out. |
| 15:02.19 | imme-emosol | I now have the one that comes with qtopia I thnk... |
| 15:02.47 | Dave | Okay |
| 15:03.06 | imme-emosol | And would there be some way to make Ctrl-Left , Ctrl-Right, Ctrl-w work on the freerunner shell> |
| 15:03.31 | Dave | Hmm? |
| 15:03.37 | lindi- | imme-emosol: it's up to the virtual keyboard, not business of the shell |
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| 15:03.51 | Dave | I really don't know. It all seems to depend on your terminal application |
| 15:03.58 | Dave | lindi, oh really? |
| 15:04.24 | imme-emosol | Dave: I have ash, does ash have such a thing, or should I install bash? |
| 15:04.45 | lindi- | imme-emosol: what should those do? |
| 15:04.57 | imme-emosol | go back and forth one word. |
| 15:05.07 | imme-emosol | and delete one word back. |
| 15:05.09 | lindi- | imme-emosol: sounds like a binding issue |
| 15:05.25 | lindi- | imme-emosol: M-f goes forward one word, M-b goes backward one word |
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| 15:05.38 | lindi- | imme-emosol: M-d deletes one word |
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| 15:05.56 | lindi- | imme-emosol: maybe on your pc you have bound arrows to do the same? |
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| 15:06.34 | imme-emosol | It could be that ubuntu-dev's have bound those keys the same, yes. |
| 15:06.53 | lindi- | imme-emosol: what does ctrl-right send? |
| 15:07.02 | imme-emosol | 5C |
| 15:07.06 | lindi- | right alone is ^[[C |
| 15:07.11 | lindi- | imme-emosol: i mean when it works |
| 15:07.12 | imme-emosol | Meta is alt, right? |
| 15:07.23 | lindi- | imme-emosol: alt can be meta |
| 15:07.32 | lindi- | imme-emosol: over the wire it sends esc |
| 15:07.33 | imme-emosol | So, right now it isn't. |
| 15:07.43 | imme-emosol | 'cause alt-d does nothing. |
| 15:07.50 | lindi- | imme-emosol: esc d |
| 15:08.23 | imme-emosol | hm ctrl-w worksdoes nothing either. |
| 15:08.39 | imme-emosol | does nothing either was about the esc d :P |
| 15:08.51 | lindi- | esc d in bash should definitely remove one word |
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| 15:09.26 | imme-emosol | i'm in ash on the openmoko |
| 15:09.34 | imme-emosol | uhm, freerunner. |
| 15:09.45 | lindi- | imme-emosol: i doubt ash uses gnu readline |
| 15:10.06 | imme-emosol | alt shift f goes to end of line... |
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| 15:11.55 | imme-emosol | ctrl d deletes one char |
| 15:12.06 | imme-emosol | ctrl a goes to beginning of line. |
| 15:12.26 | imme-emosol | Does someone have a reference for me to the keyboard commands of ash? |
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| 15:22.37 | lindi- | imme-emosol: those are the keyboard commands of gnu readline |
| 15:22.47 | lindi- | imme-emosol: ash probably supports some small subset of it? |
| 15:25.12 | imme-emosol | I think so. |
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| 15:25.27 | imme-emosol | ash really is busybox, which is defined as being a small subset. |
| 15:25.45 | imme-emosol | well nevermind, I'll just deal wiit it for the moment, it's no big inconvenience... |
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| 17:27.13 | Ventolinmono | hello does anybody knows how to see which Om Release is installed on my GTA02? |
| 17:30.30 | zash_ | Ventolinmono: try `uname -a` and check if there is any /etc/*release* or similar |
| 17:34.21 | Ventolinmono | ok : i got gta02 2.6.24 |
| 17:35.44 | zash_ | Ventolinmono: that would be the kernel |
| 17:37.15 | Ventolinmono | zash: thanks i just got my phone yesterday and im also new to linux (ubuntu) so how do i open the system and root folders to chek the /etc/*release |
| 17:37.40 | zash_ | Ventolinmono: wait, what do you see if you boot it and look on the screen? |
| 17:38.10 | Ventolinmono | the small fast white letters? |
| 17:38.16 | Ventolinmono | and the openmoko logo |
| 17:38.23 | zash_ | Ventolinmono: when it's done |
| 17:38.36 | Ventolinmono | the today page |
| 17:38.50 | zash_ | so, om2007.something i guess |
| 17:39.02 | zash_ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions |
| 17:39.11 | zash_ | Om 2007.2 is the base-system which is installed on FreeRunner when it leaves the factory. |
| 17:40.05 | Ventolinmono | ok, going to flash to the 2008.12 |
| 17:40.39 | zash_ | good luck! |
| 17:41.20 | Ventolinmono | ja thanks zash, any tips for my first flashing ? |
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| 18:34.01 | swab | is there a trick to using the keypad with applications that don't support it by themselves? (like to enter a url in dillo) |
| 18:35.51 | lindi- | swab: xvkbd works with any app |
| 18:38.55 | swab | lindi-, ah, great :) is there an opkg package already or should i install from their website? |
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| 18:43.03 | lindi- | swab: no idea, i use debian |
| 18:43.46 | swab | ah, i see |
| 18:44.07 | swab | monday i will get some sd-cards and try around with other distros :) |
| 18:44.28 | Digital_Pioneer | Hmm, Newegg has a $7 4GB MicroSD w/ free shipping. Sounds like a good deal, no? |
| 18:44.49 | Digital_Pioneer | Or am I overestimating the value of MicroSD cards? |
| 18:45.41 | thrashold | I would go for something bigger, 8 GB or more. :) More space is always handy :) |
| 18:46.15 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah, I want at least 8. |
| 18:46.16 | swab | is it right that more than 8G arent supported? |
| 18:46.25 | Digital_Pioneer | I didn't think they were... |
| 18:46.31 | Digital_Pioneer | I've never seen one, personally though. |
| 18:46.57 | zash_ | why didn't they use standard SD? |
| 18:47.46 | Digital_Pioneer | Because it's massive?' |
| 18:47.46 | lindi- | zash_: it's much larger? |
| 18:47.46 | zash_ | SDHC's in 32GB exists |
| 18:48.46 | Toaster` | Ok, I need some basic *nix help. I'm trying to `ln -s` a file to a named link in the same directory, and it's not letting me. Any idea why? |
| 18:48.55 | Digital_Pioneer | Ahhh, Radio Shack... Can't beat a deal like that! $55 for an 8GB microSD w/ adapter. |
| 18:48.58 | zash_ | Toaster`: same name? |
| 18:49.19 | Toaster` | zash_: no |
| 18:49.25 | Toaster` | different names |
| 18:49.30 | zash_ | Toaster`: what does it say |
| 18:49.57 | Toaster` | Operation not permitted |
| 18:50.15 | zash_ | Toaster`: do you have write-permission? |
| 18:50.34 | Toaster` | it's on my FR where I'm root, so I should hope so |
| 18:51.11 | Digital_Pioneer | Unfortunately, Newegg has no 8GB microSDs in stock now, it seems. |
| 18:51.17 | zash_ | Toaster`: can you paste the full command? |
| 18:51.23 | Digital_Pioneer | only ever buys electronics from Newegg. |
| 18:52.35 | Toaster` | zash_: Sure, "ln -s mesdeliv.wav sms_tone". I'm trying to abstract my ringtones out of the *.ymal files to make my life easier |
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| 18:52.51 | Digital_Pioneer | Toaster`: Should be able to just `ln -s /path/to/real/file /path/to/symlink` |
| 18:53.17 | Toaster` | Digital_Pioneer: I know, I tested it on my desktop and all is fine there. But no go on my FR |
| 18:53.20 | Digital_Pioneer | Toaster`: If you're sure there's no file sms_tone to destroy, you can `ln -sf` and that might do it. |
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| 18:53.43 | Toaster` | Digital_Pioneer: new and clean directory. And I had tried that as well |
| 18:53.50 | Digital_Pioneer | Hmm. |
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| 18:54.02 | Digital_Pioneer | blames busybox. |
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| 18:54.20 | zash_ | Toaster`: what file-system is it? |
| 18:54.35 | Toaster` | zash_: it's on my SD card |
| 18:54.45 | zash_ | Toaster`: and it is formatted with what? |
| 18:54.52 | Toaster` | fat |
| 18:55.01 | zash_ | does fat have symlinks? |
| 18:55.04 | lindi- | no |
| 18:55.08 | Toaster` | ahh |
| 18:55.12 | Toaster` | that would do it |
| 18:55.31 | Toaster` | And so I learn. Thanks guys |
| 18:55.35 | zash_ | :D |
| 18:55.45 | Sharwin_F | Has someone been able to "opkg update & upgrade" shr-unstable successfully today? I get errors on gtk+, pygtk and initscripts-openmoko and then apps crashed at lanching cause there's no pygtk |
| 18:56.02 | Sharwin_F | and I can put in the PIN number to use it as a mobile >.< |
| 18:56.44 | laen | Ssshhhh! |
| 18:56.59 | Tm_T | it's not a phone! |
| 18:57.01 | Tm_T | hides |
| 18:57.11 | Sharwin_F | *can't |
| 18:57.43 | Sharwin_F | mmm at this moment no... but i can throw it to someone... so it's "useful" anyway... xD |
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| 18:58.08 | Digital_Pioneer | Toaster`: Ahhh, the curse of crappy filesystems. :) |
| 18:58.11 | laen | I think it works, my openmoko. I don't get called that much anymore, lovely! |
| 18:59.09 | laen | My phonebill has shrunk too. So, i've got no complaints about my sweet moko at all =) |
| 18:59.16 | Toaster` | Digital_Pioneer: Pretty much. Knowing that I've sorted it out now. Next time I update my SD card, I'll have to put something useful on there :) |
| 18:59.17 | Sharwin_F | lol |
| 18:59.28 | Digital_Pioneer | Toaster`: Indeed. :P |
| 18:59.44 | mirko-paroli | laen: a big an joyful LOL |
| 19:00.10 | Sharwin_F | but I' like to at least be able to run apps on my freerunner when I'm bored... |
| 19:00.17 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah, seems any time I try to answer an incoming call it hangs up on it anyways. |
| 19:00.28 | Digital_Pioneer | So when I call them back, ophonekitd seems to crash after the call. |
| 19:01.13 | Digital_Pioneer | So... How usable is shr-unstable compared to shr-testing? |
| 19:01.46 | Toaster` | Weird I'm using my FR as my daily phone without many troubles at all |
| 19:01.51 | Toaster` | SHR-testing |
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| 19:02.51 | Sharwin_F | is here any shr developer which applies a bit of magic to the feeds to make my openmoko launch apps? :D |
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| 19:04.08 | moritz | Hi |
| 19:04.14 | Sharwin_F | hi :) |
| 19:06.20 | laen | Toaster`: which distro? |
| 19:06.34 | moritz | I would like to try to use my Freerunner as a "usb sound card", through the PulseAudio server. I installed several pulseaudio related packages, including pulseaudio-server, but I don't have /etc/init.d/pulseaudio. (I am using Om.2008). Three questions: how can I figure out which package provides that init script? does pulseaudio generally work? how can I set it up? |
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| 19:09.41 | Toaster` | laen: SHR-testing |
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| 19:13.07 | lindi- | moritz: pulseaudio is ran as normal user mostly |
| 19:22.55 | Toaster` | hrm, it doesn't seem to be working as planned. |
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| 19:24.10 | Toaster` | I can play the linked files directly, but incoming calls aren't playing them |
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| 19:24.55 | Toaster` | What does frameworkd use to play ringtones? |
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| 19:54.43 | Toaster` | Can anyone help me with a dbus audio question? Specifically, I'm trying to play an audio file via dbus, and not having success. Any dbus gurus out there to help? |
| 19:58.25 | Toaster` | ok, hold on my last |
| 20:00.50 | Sharwin_F | someone using FSO? is unstable working well or I'd use testing? |
| 20:01.08 | Toaster` | does dbus follow symlinks properly? IE: ...PlaySound "symlink" 0 0; where symlink -> file.wav? |
| 20:01.34 | Toaster` | I know the above fails, but I'm trying to find out where |
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| 20:09.21 | Toaster` | And it seems that dbus won't follow symlinks. Crap |
| 20:09.39 | Toaster` | Anyone have any ideas how to make it work? |
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| 20:39.44 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03werner * r4889 10/developers/werner/bin/ (gg ggq): Extended gg to also work with "quilt edit" (through ggq) |
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| 20:46.30 | Sharwin_F | Last fso-testing image gets frozen at some point while loading the kernel... Starting freesmartphone.org gspd compatibility daemon: (ok) |
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| 21:08.41 | Deubeuliou | I'm trying to compile with gcc on the FreeRunner, but I get this error: |
| 21:08.43 | Deubeuliou | gcc: error trying to exec 'as': execvp: No such file or directory |
| 21:09.05 | Deubeuliou | I don't know wich package contains this |
| 21:09.06 | cjb | binutils |
| 21:09.21 | Deubeuliou | ok. I can't install it :/ |
| 21:09.35 | Deubeuliou | (maybe I should update) |
| 21:10.37 | Deubeuliou | No, I still can't install it: An error ocurred, return value: -49936. |
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| 21:11.40 | Deubeuliou | i seems not to be in the repos. I'm using SHR |
| 21:12.01 | Deubeuliou | s/i seems/it seems/ |
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| 21:12.48 | Sharwin_F | has somebody booted successfully last testing/unstable FSO image? it doesn't boot T_T |
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| 21:30.19 | baba_melone | Hi, Im trying to use FSO (ms 4.1) now, but there are some problems im having with it. Firstly, it doesnt work anymore after a opkg upgrade, the x server doesnt start anymore, and it produces no error messages. Besides (without upgrading) I tried and install zhone, but it didnt work, I get the python error: SyntaxError: encoding problem: with BOM |
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| 22:05.47 | XTaran | Hi. .oO( Oh, that's quite a lot of people in here... :-) |
| 22:06.13 | henk | hi XTaran |
| 22:07.02 | henk | XTaran: you might be interested in #openmoko-debian and #neo1973-germany as well, i think ;) |
| 22:07.27 | XTaran | henk: Hey, how do you know? :) |
| 22:07.48 | XTaran | henk: Well, Switzerland, but yeah. :) |
| 22:09.02 | XTaran | henk: Ok, I'll try #debian-openmoko first with my questions -- since the install scripts for debian didn't work here. |
| 22:09.09 | XTaran | henk: OFTC or Freenode btw? |
| 22:09.12 | henk | XTaran: the partitioning part? |
| 22:09.15 | henk | XTaran: both |
| 22:09.27 | henk | XTaran: ah the two channels... freenode |
| 22:09.28 | XTaran | henk: Nope, the configure nand uboot part |
| 22:09.54 | XTaran | henk: Right, the question was about the channels. :) |
| 22:10.26 | XTaran | got an endless loop after using http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/configure-uboot.sh |
| 22:11.10 | XTaran | But I'll check #debian-openmoko for that first. Thanks so far. :) |
| 22:12.12 | henk | ah, i did my env by hand... good luck |
| 22:12.14 | henk | bbl |
| 22:12.34 | XTaran | Argh, #openmoko-debian, not #debian-openmoko. :) |
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| 22:16.07 | PaulFertser_ | XTaran: i advice you to take a look at Qi, it's simpler and more robust than u-boot. |
| 22:17.13 | XTaran | PaulFertser_: Could be an option, thanks for the hint. |
| 22:18.19 | PaulFertser_ | XTaran: wiki doesn't have the info yet, but you can choose what you want to boot even with Qi. Pressing AUX while the red LED is on skips current boot possibility. |
| 22:18.44 | PaulFertser_ | XTaran: Qi works faster and predictable, and doesn't depend on any kind of environment, that is too easy to mess up. |
| 22:19.54 | XTaran | PaulFertser_: #openmoko-debian helped, I need a newer uboot version. Will try that. If that fails, too, I'll try Qi. |
| 22:20.42 | PaulFertser_ | XTaran: go ahead, but remember, u-boot for FR has some known bugs with access to larger SDs and is no more maintained. |
| 22:21.45 | XTaran | PaulFertser_: uboot is no more maintained? That |
| 22:21.49 | XTaran | PaulFertser_: uboot is no more maintained? That's new to me. |
| 22:22.04 | PaulFertser_ | XTaran: it's no more maintained for GTA02 |
| 22:22.13 | XTaran | PaulFertser_: I'll keep that in mind since I have an 8 GB microSD. |
| 22:22.15 | XTaran | PaulFertser_: Ah, ok. |
| 22:22.34 | XTaran | PaulFertser_: Interesting though. Wouldn't have expect this. |
| 22:23.13 | PaulFertser_ | XTaran: u-boot is support hell. And it doesn't make much sense to port more and more drivers from Linux to u-boot anyway. |
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| 22:32.14 | badcloud | anyone know of a yaml editor/mp3 converter? |
| 22:32.34 | lindi- | yaml editor and mp3 converter sound entirely different things? ;) |
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| 22:32.42 | badcloud | yup |
| 22:33.16 | badcloud | one, the other, or both would be stellar |
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| 22:37.50 | lindi- | badcloud: dunno, i just edit yaml with emacs. would mp3 converter mean that it reads mp3 and produces something else? |
| 22:39.39 | badcloud | hmmm, I'm not familiar with the yaml format, so I don't know |
| 22:39.46 | lindi- | it's just text |
| 22:39.53 | badcloud | gotcha |
| 22:39.57 | badcloud | thanks |
| 22:40.44 | badcloud | I'll try using emacs |
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| 23:16.00 | imme-emosol | How do I find out what distro I am currently using... :S |
| 23:16.11 | imme-emosol | I think it's om2008.8 but I'm not sure. :S |
| 23:27.22 | PaulFertser_ | imme-emosol: install SHR and you'll know for sure ;) |
| 23:27.37 | imme-emosol | ghehe... :) |
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| 23:30.50 | imme-emosol | I'm not that confident just yet... |
| 23:33.12 | imme-emosol | Where can I browse the opkg repo, like aptitude/apt-get 's search command ? |
| 23:33.38 | sakkara | opkg list | grep bla |
| 23:34.13 | imme-emosol | hmmm crude... (liking it...) |
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| 23:48.08 | DocScruntinizer2 | s/ grep bla/ less/ |
| 23:49.00 | imme-emosol | DocScruntinizer2: That's really _to_ crude... I will have to read... :P |
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| 23:49.59 | DocScruntinizer2 | imme-emosol: nah, don't worry. you'll probably need to install less first ;-) |
| 23:51.05 | imme-emosol | DocScruntinizer2: lol. It know redirect stdin to vi... :P |
| 23:51.53 | DocScruntinizer2 | *that's* really sophisticated :P |
| 23:56.28 | imme-emosol | shouldn't in the gst-plugins-good package be code to read .au-files? |