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| 02:49.25 | rooly | woo |
| 02:49.26 | rooly | i'm back |
| 02:51.50 | alephnull | wow, battery life has certainly improved in 2008.12. |
| 02:56.00 | rooly | so |
| 02:56.08 | rooly | anyone have the iGo bluetooth keyboard? |
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| 03:18.57 | brian__ | anybody try the latest shr? |
| 03:20.59 | brian__ | from russia with much love |
| 03:33.01 | fredrin | brian__: is it for people that don't speak Russian too? |
| 03:35.46 | gurugentoo | are you talking about shr-ultraunstable heh? |
| 03:36.15 | gurugentoo | I think I need to try that build, it sounds exceedingly daring |
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| 04:17.24 | brian__ | yes it is it is great |
| 04:17.33 | brian__ | u gotta try it |
| 04:18.19 | brian__ | anybody remember my asking how to get a terminal keyboard with a black background? |
| 04:18.54 | brian__ | no this is a russian build |
| 04:19.41 | gurugentoo | ah now I understand your comment |
| 04:19.44 | brian__ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Bytestore |
| 04:21.05 | gurugentoo | I was talking about this one http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-ultraunstable/images/om-gta02/ |
| 04:21.26 | gurugentoo | new build from today |
| 04:21.36 | brian__ | naa |
| 04:21.50 | brian__ | i need a phone |
| 04:22.11 | brian__ | lots of good programs on this |
| 04:22.25 | brian__ | its like a shr-fdom |
| 04:22.37 | gurugentoo | but russian only? |
| 04:22.38 | brian__ | STABLE |
| 04:22.47 | brian__ | english |
| 04:22.54 | gurugentoo | o |
| 04:22.59 | brian__ | very nice |
| 04:23.11 | brian__ | very very |
| 04:23.15 | gurugentoo | cool I'll have to try it |
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| 05:42.12 | ChristW | rooly: Yes, and it works with the script on the Wiki, but only after reboot (not after resume) for now. |
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| 05:55.33 | Dave | :) |
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| 06:02.15 | rooly | nn |
| 06:09.03 | brian__ | gwaterpas is excellent |
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| 06:20.11 | Dave | later rooly |
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| 07:58.28 | lpotter | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20090114-nokia-qt-lgpl-switch-huge-win-for-cross-platform-development.html |
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| 08:26.32 | leinirAWAY | lpotter: That rocks in so many ways it's untrue :) |
| 08:26.57 | lpotter | :D |
| 08:27.06 | lpotter | http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/01/14/nokia-to-license-qt-under-lgpl/ |
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| 08:27.23 | sebbs | :O lgpl? |
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| 08:28.18 | niklauz | isn't it currently under gpl3? |
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| 08:31.10 | sebbs | alot of people comment on FR vs Iphone, i find this very funny |
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| 08:31.16 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:31.19 | sebbs | god morning Hopscotch |
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| 08:33.23 | sebbs | todays mision is to try out xmonad and test the memory usage of it. |
| 08:33.58 | sebbs | 128ram is not enough! |
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| 08:37.45 | PaulFertser | lpotter: Does it affect Qtextended? Is this Nokia's plan to make desktop Qt more open and acceptable because they want to be less involved in its development (by outsourcing part of work to the community)? |
| 08:39.21 | lpotter | does not effect qt extended |
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| 08:39.48 | PaulFertser | lpotter: Is Nokia going to provide any kind of "software patents" "protection" to those using desktop Qt? |
| 08:39.57 | lpotter | PaulFertser: if you read that blog entry, he states Qt Software will add more developers |
| 08:40.12 | lpotter | No idea about patents |
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| 08:42.06 | PaulFertser | lpotter: by "employ" one might mean "use: put into service". Doesn't necessarily mean that new developers will be paid. |
| 08:42.26 | lpotter | no, we are still hiring developers |
| 08:43.34 | PaulFertser | lpotter: Thanks for the great news! |
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| 08:45.28 | PaulFertser | lpotter: What's your _personal_ opinion about "software patents" and "IP"? |
| 08:46.25 | lpotter | personally, I think they are a farce |
| 08:46.44 | PaulFertser | Great :) |
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| 08:47.57 | vinicius | sebbs: xmonad-light? xmonad depends on ghc (because configuration is a haskell program) |
| 08:48.26 | vinicius | and ghc is huge |
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| 08:58.04 | sebbs | ghc does not work proper does it? |
| 08:58.19 | sebbs | i tried compiling something the other day that depended on it but i got int trouble and had to recompile i ti think |
| 08:58.46 | sebbs | vinicius: where can i get xmonad-light? |
| 08:59.44 | vinicius | darcs get http://code.haskell.org/~shepheb/xmonad-light |
| 09:00.07 | vinicius | direct from larry page |
| 09:00.11 | vinicius | =) |
| 09:00.17 | sebbs | ah |
| 09:00.32 | sebbs | sweet :) thanks ill try it out instead of the standard one in the repos |
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| 09:21.42 | vinicius | mmm for storage of data any advantage of using any system beside ext2 or fat on a sd card? |
| 09:21.54 | vinicius | *filesystem |
| 09:22.21 | sebbs | yes |
| 09:22.25 | |Marco| | hm, read up on ext4 ? |
| 09:22.28 | sebbs | ext2 = file permissions etc |
| 09:22.33 | sebbs | fat does not |
| 09:22.40 | sebbs | + a shitload of other stuff |
| 09:22.57 | sebbs | but for you i think file permissions is the most important factor |
| 09:23.28 | sebbs | journaling is good |
| 09:23.36 | sebbs | ex3 i think, cos my phone dies alot : |
| 09:23.37 | sebbs | :P |
| 09:23.40 | sebbs | ext3 |
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| 09:25.49 | vinicius | yes, was wondering about ext3 of ufifs, but I think the SD hardware deals with leveling itself, right? |
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| 09:26.00 | vinicius | *wear leveling |
| 09:28.22 | henk | most of them |
| 09:28.50 | sebbs | not tried ufifs either |
| 09:29.20 | henk | hasn't even heard of ufufs |
| 09:29.22 | henk | ufifs |
| 09:29.29 | vinicius | *ubifs |
| 09:29.39 | sebbs | i dont like xfs, nor reiserfs fs |
| 09:29.39 | henk | ah ok |
| 09:29.51 | sebbs | xfs looses files |
| 09:29.57 | sebbs | from my experience |
| 09:30.11 | henk | vinicius: ubifs is a flash filesystem... |
| 09:31.32 | sebbs | ubifs is quite good |
| 09:31.42 | henk | but is it meant for 'harddisks'? |
| 09:31.47 | sebbs | its fast |
| 09:32.14 | sebbs | no meant for flash |
| 09:32.23 | sebbs | its like JFFS2 |
| 09:32.24 | henk | afaict it's something like jffs2, which is meant for FRs nand for example |
| 09:32.31 | sebbs | but does not have that 512 limit |
| 09:32.32 | vinicius | yes |
| 09:32.36 | sebbs | among othr things i think |
| 09:32.39 | sebbs | i dont remember |
| 09:32.47 | vinicius | but depending on the SD hardware interface it could be used |
| 09:32.49 | henk | would it work on a memory card nevertheless? |
| 09:32.52 | henk | ah ok |
| 09:32.55 | sebbs | i so seldom read about filesystem specs :P |
| 09:32.58 | vinicius | but I think it's not the case |
| 09:33.25 | sebbs | ah http://osl.sed.hu/wiki/ubifs/index.php/Main_Page |
| 09:33.43 | sebbs | theres a design document there |
| 09:33.52 | henk | that's what i found... |
| 09:33.58 | sebbs | :) |
| 09:34.17 | sebbs | im reading it now, looks promising |
| 09:34.27 | sebbs | "someone" should benchmark the difference |
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| 09:37.05 | sebbs | time for me to go back to work, thanks vinicius for that xmonad-light ill compile it later tday and try it out :) |
| 09:37.38 | vinicius | cya |
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| 12:49.49 | acathla | hi |
| 12:52.25 | Cervajz | Hello, do you have SHR where are working openmoko-messages and openmoko-dialer? |
| 12:52.54 | Cervajz | I have today unstable but it worked only for first time :( |
| 12:53.29 | henk | .oO( 'unstable' ) |
| 12:53.58 | Cervajz | Nowm I have error message: |
| 12:53.58 | Cervajz | Failed to handle dbus error: type: <class 'framework.resource.ResourceNotenabled'>. 71 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 32 |
| 12:54.08 | Cervajz | henk: yes, but where is stable...? |
| 12:54.14 | Cervajz | Nowhere |
| 12:54.31 | henk | exactly |
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| 12:57.04 | Cervajz | ok...i'll try zhone |
| 12:58.05 | toggles_w | 5 |
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| 13:02.42 | spaetz | hmm, I got a Moko, put on fso-testing and it seems stuck after "Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibiltiy daemon (ok)" |
| 13:02.51 | spaetz | how long can the boot take? |
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| 13:07.29 | spaetz | and also for FSO:Â I flashed uImage and the root.jffs2 |
| 13:07.49 | spaetz | do I need to flash the modules-* thing too that's offered in the download section? |
| 13:08.02 | henk | shouldn't take too long. what jffs2 did you use exactly? |
| 13:08.13 | henk | spaetz: there are console, lite and normal images... |
| 13:08.24 | spaetz | http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 |
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| 13:08.32 | spaetz | this seemed appropriate |
| 13:08.47 | spaetz | I had a bit of a difficulty finding the right image |
| 13:09.05 | henk | should be fine... no need to flash the modules and you can't do that anyway... |
| 13:09.13 | henk | can you connect to ssh? |
| 13:09.27 | spaetz | eg. I have no clue what the difference to openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090103-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 is |
| 13:09.50 | henk | spaetz: fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 is probably just a symlink to the latest image. |
| 13:10.01 | spaetz | not tried ssh yet. Should the USB present itself as a network card? I just got the Moko today. So I am still trying |
| 13:10.19 | spaetz | register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:1d.0-1 |
| 13:10.31 | spaetz | ahh, seems like USBÂ is a network card now. will try to ssh |
| 13:10.48 | henk | spaetz: as a cdc_ether device, so you probably have a network device 'usb0' which you can configure like that: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 up |
| 13:11.05 | spaetz | yep, usb0 is there. trying |
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| 13:13.09 | spaetz | default ip is 192.168.0.1 probably? |
| 13:13.21 | spaetz | can't reach it |
| 13:14.27 | spaetz | ahh, connect to *.0.202 works |
| 13:14.50 | spaetz | yay, logged into the moko as root. l33t |
| 13:15.14 | spaetz | ok, now how to get X started? |
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| 13:20.21 | spaetz | mmh, there seems to be no graphical stuff at all in fso-testing weird. I might try the -stable snapshot |
| 13:21.47 | henk | spaetz: try /etc/init.d/nodm restart or perhaps it's called xserver-nodm |
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| 13:26.50 | spaetz | For my first try I revert now to a stable snapshot. I just received a python import failure: "no module strings" when I started frameworkd etc which sounds a bit scary |
| 13:27.11 | spaetz | I'll put the testing on the sdcard once I got a snapshot actually booting |
| 13:27.27 | spaetz | but thanks for the hint, henk |
| 13:27.28 | henk | spaetz: i have fso running in flash and debian (using the fso stack) on the sd. |
| 13:27.44 | henk | spaetz: perhaps an opkg update ; opkg upgrade will fix your issue? |
| 13:28.23 | spaetz | might be. I'll try a few things now before I continue bothering you guys :-). |
| 13:29.01 | henk | k, have fun :) |
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| 13:35.09 | Cervajz | Hello, is it in SHR something like sysfs in Om200x.x ? Thank you |
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| 13:35.43 | spaetz | heh: Further framework milestone releases will ship in two forms: |
| 13:35.45 | spaetz | 1. fso-console-image: An FSO-compliant image featuring no user interface manager. 2. fso-illume-image: An FSO-compliant image featuring the X-Window system with the Enlightenment-based Illume window manager. |
| 13:36.00 | AntonTakk | Cervajz: sysfs is created by the kernel, so i'd think so |
| 13:36.03 | spaetz | it seems I actually downloaded the version without graphical user interface |
| 13:36.08 | spaetz | so that would explain a lot |
| 13:36.13 | henk | spaetz: ack :) |
| 13:37.52 | Cervajz | AntonTakk: Thank you |
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| 14:30.48 | mortenlysgaard | Hi. Is there anyone with experience in bluetooth on OM2008.*? |
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| 14:36.04 | henk | mortenlysgaard: no. |
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| 14:41.46 | mortenlysgaard | henk; Well, i se there's something on the wiki, but it's not working. If i try to turn it on in the sysswitch, it does nothing |
| 14:41.55 | Zorkman | mortenlysgaard: i tried it out long ago and it worked, but i just read and followed the wiki |
| 14:42.11 | Zorkman | mortenlysgaard: did you do both commands? turn on AND reset? |
| 14:42.19 | mortenlysgaard | Yup |
| 14:42.29 | Zorkman | have a good kernel? |
| 14:42.57 | mortenlysgaard | Yeah, the OM2008.12 one |
| 14:43.30 | mortenlysgaard | I get: "Device is not available: No such device" when i try to do something with hcitool |
| 14:43.33 | henk | mortenlysgaard: does hciconfig -a show you a device? |
| 14:43.47 | mortenlysgaard | Nope |
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| 14:46.44 | mortenlysgaard | Does that mean that i have a bad kernel? |
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| 14:57.45 | spaetz | mmh, is "mmc1 error -110 whilst initialising SD card" known when starting FSO-testing? |
| 14:58.00 | spaetz | I can't access the SD card |
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| 15:02.05 | frankS2 | anyone tested SHR? is it any good? |
| 15:04.04 | Ainulindale | frankS2: Indeed it's good. Though these days we had some trouble with stuff. We didn't release yet, it's not supposed to be stable :-) |
| 15:04.07 | henk | frankS2: it's ok imho... |
| 15:04.13 | Ainulindale | frankS2: Although I use it as a day to day distro myself |
| 15:04.18 | Ainulindale | (But that would be a shame if I didn't) |
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| 15:04.43 | henk | hm am i the only one with unacceptable handset volume? i barely hear the one i'm talking to... |
| 15:04.47 | frankS2 | Ainulindale: how do i install it? is it a .bin image for that too? |
| 15:05.07 | frankS2 | aand, does it have a irc channel? |
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| 15:07.33 | Ainulindale | frankS2: we mostly talk on #openmoko-cdevel |
| 15:07.38 | Ainulindale | images are on build.shr-project.org |
| 15:07.46 | Ainulindale | henk: that's an hardware caveat |
| 15:08.41 | henk | oh :( |
| 15:08.57 | henk | Ainulindale: do you live with it or what do you do? |
| 15:10.15 | Ainulindale | You have three choices |
| 15:10.30 | Ainulindale | Either you lower the volume and deal with it |
| 15:10.38 | Ainulindale | Or you crank it up and live with a buzz |
| 15:10.42 | Ainulindale | Or you fix your hardware |
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| 15:15.52 | spaetz | that hardware fix doesn't seem too easy, how do I find about my hardware rev? |
| 15:17.07 | bipak | spaetz: iirc on the bottom of the battery |
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| 15:19.19 | henk | Ainulindale: there is a hardware fix? where? |
| 15:20.01 | Ainulindale | Available on the wiki I think |
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| 15:21.00 | henk | Ainulindale: hm haven't seen that yet. any hint what to search for? |
| 15:21.14 | spaetz | henk: search buzz fix or something |
| 15:21.32 | spaetz | there's a pdf that shows where to solder in a resistor |
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| 15:22.41 | spaetz | http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf |
| 15:22.49 | spaetz | I think this is what was meant |
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| 15:26.02 | henk | spaetz: thanks! i hope i can get the components and matching soldering whatever somewhere so my GF can fix it... |
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| 15:38.46 | brian__ | gonna hahe to get with it to keep up with there guys |
| 15:39.47 | brian__ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Bytestore |
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| 15:52.32 | brian__ | phone works thismorning:) |
| 15:52.53 | brian__ | progress |
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| 16:53.28 | notserpe | where can I find a good new-ish kernel for GTA01Bv4 |
| 16:53.41 | notserpe | and what distro should I muck with? |
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| 16:55.51 | rob79 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions |
| 16:56.00 | rob79 | ^^ |
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| 17:30.26 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rcd6a53f364af 10/framework/subsystems/ousaged/ (generic.py resources.py): ousaged: move errors to appropriate modules. |
| 17:30.26 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rf854ffd892bc 10/framework/subsystems/ousaged/resources.py: ousaged: fix resource policy 'enabled'. Had been broken since months, but apparantly no one notice :) |
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| 17:37.05 | joerg_42 | [16:07] <Ainulindale> Or you crank it up and live with a buzz |
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| 17:37.49 | joerg_42 | henk: Ainulindale: spaetz: that's not quite correct |
| 17:38.18 | joerg_42 | buzz is far end and not related to earpiece volume |
| 17:39.07 | joerg_42 | you can fix buzz with the buzzfix big-C rework. you can't fix it by volume settings |
| 17:39.51 | joerg_42 | low earpiece volume is a tradeoff to reduze echo at farend |
| 17:39.55 | Ainulindale | joerg_42: agreed, I was doing a simplification :-) |
| 17:40.06 | Ainulindale | joerg_42: Fact is, if volume is loud, the buzz is loud too |
| 17:40.18 | joerg_42 | echo should be fixed by new AT%N command |
| 17:40.59 | joerg_42 | Ainulindale: nonsense. that's for mic sensitivity, not for earpiece volume |
| 17:41.33 | Ainulindale | Well I'm too lazy and tired to explain myself properly |
| 17:41.34 | joerg_42 | as buzz creeps in via mic audio path, thats quite obvious |
| 17:41.44 | Ainulindale | But the trade is : low volume or echo/buzz |
| 17:42.17 | joerg_42 | aha, ok you should know it |
| 17:42.31 | Ainulindale | I'm so tired I can't speak properly :-) |
| 17:45.54 | joerg_42 | Ainulindale: what you say is correct (somehow) but *only* for farend. henk complained about low volume of local earpiece, and that is caused by a tradeof for echo *only* |
| 17:46.07 | joerg_42 | it's not related to buzz |
| 17:46.40 | joerg_42 | as you shouldn't have buzz at all locally. buzz is FE *only* |
| 17:47.13 | Ainulindale | (agreed) |
| 17:49.38 | joerg_42 | Ainulindale: so you further can agree on "echo should be fixed for good by latest mickey's AT%N patch", so you should be able to level up earpiece volume to a convenient level |
| 17:51.08 | Ainulindale | if you say so :-p |
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| 17:51.39 | joerg_42 | it's a fair number of users saying this |
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| 17:52.51 | joerg_42 | that's why I put it in quotes |
| 17:52.51 | Ainulindale | Yeah yeah I was just stating that my current state implies that whatever you say, I won't be able to argue and/or think, as my head is currently somewhere between my pants and my bowel |
| 17:53.19 | joerg_42 | get some sleep! |
| 17:53.29 | Ainulindale | I should do that but I'm still at work |
| 17:53.30 | joerg_42 | :) |
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| 18:06.56 | Digital_Pioneer | OK, so someone needs to write me a nice calendar app that allows me to schedule appointments, meetings, and whatnot and automatically go to silent mode during specified times, and give alerts and reminders when they are coming up. |
| 18:07.06 | Digital_Pioneer | Who's up for it? |
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| 18:13.52 | sicu | awaits Dave's compulsory outcry of the viral arrival |
| 18:16.57 | gurugentoo | Digital_Pioneer: I second the motion...but I'd have to figure out all the e/etk stuff to write it myself |
| 18:17.24 | gurugentoo | I haven't done much in the way of GUIs before |
| 18:17.28 | Digital_Pioneer | Well, I'd have to figure out all the GUI programming stuff... :\ Haven't taken that class yet. :( |
| 18:17.37 | Digital_Pioneer | Nor I. |
| 18:18.09 | Digital_Pioneer | I'm also concerned about the phone suspending... How do I make SURE it gets muted when it's suspended? |
| 18:18.41 | gurugentoo | well, it won't wake up from suspend from a normal calendar program |
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| 18:18.57 | Digital_Pioneer | Right. |
| 18:19.11 | Digital_Pioneer | I imagine I'd have to set the interrupt on the hwclock. |
| 18:19.17 | gurugentoo | I believe only the gsm modem, internal alarm, perhaps wifi can wake |
| 18:19.38 | Digital_Pioneer | I have NO idea how to do that, but I also wonder if the alarm can have multiple wake-up times. |
| 18:19.49 | gurugentoo | oh so you do want it to wake |
| 18:20.27 | Digital_Pioneer | I assume it would have to wake, to mute itself. |
| 18:20.28 | gurugentoo | you can set the next alarm when the current one goes off |
| 18:20.43 | gurugentoo | if there is one |
| 18:20.47 | Shlee | Why does PS3 blu-ray rips even exist.. waiting for the day they actually crack it for piracy? |
| 18:20.49 | Digital_Pioneer | But what if the current one goes off after the one I need now? |
| 18:21.01 | Digital_Pioneer | I'd have to have some program managing a queue of alarms to go off. |
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| 18:23.16 | gurugentoo | it would be interesting to deal with multiple programs that set the alarm, for instance the current alarm program |
| 18:23.28 | gurugentoo | preerably you'd have only one |
| 18:23.30 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah. |
| 18:23.35 | Digital_Pioneer | See, I have an alarm clock app. |
| 18:23.41 | Digital_Pioneer | I use that alarm clock. :P |
| 18:24.03 | Digital_Pioneer | So I can't have everything messing with my alarm clock... |
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| 18:25.12 | gurugentoo | ok so you have to duplicate the alarm functionality in the calendar program |
| 18:25.42 | gurugentoo | unless there is already a way to handle this with framework dbus call |
| 18:25.43 | gurugentoo | s |
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| 18:28.34 | DocScrutinizer2 | gurugentoo: Digital_Pioneer : patch cron/at to use RTC. All other progs needing a scheduled event should use cron/at, and cron knows about correct sorting of events to set RTC to the most recent next alarmtime |
| 18:29.17 | Digital_Pioneer | DocScrutinizer2: So make cron itself set the interrupt? |
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| 18:29.27 | DocScrutinizer2 | yup |
| 18:29.50 | gurugentoo | easy peasy |
| 18:29.52 | Digital_Pioneer | A good idea. Now, how to do it... :P |
| 18:30.09 | gurugentoo | start with a text version |
| 18:31.02 | gurugentoo | go borrow code from mozilla sunbird? |
| 18:31.14 | Digital_Pioneer | I can't even compile for FR. |
| 18:31.18 | Digital_Pioneer | No working toolchain. |
| 18:34.48 | DocScrutinizer2 | ffirst you need to unify crond and atd, and teach this deamon to handle RTC |
| 18:35.08 | DocScrutinizer2 | you can do this on any linux 8'd guess |
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| 18:37.09 | DocScrutinizer2 | then extend crontab-file syntax to include a conditional alarm for "only when (not) suspended / always" |
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| 18:38.09 | DocScrutinizer2 | don't forget to include batch(1) semantics here |
| 18:38.15 | gurugentoo | and a hook to turn off the alarm when a suspend is started |
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| 18:40.38 | henk | DocScrutinizer2: ok, thanks for clearing that up :) |
| 18:40.40 | DocScrutinizer2 | why would you need that? |
| 18:41.17 | Digital_Pioneer | Hold on, hold on.... :P I don't even know how to set the hwclock interrupt. |
| 18:41.37 | Digital_Pioneer | And that's probably the easiest part of the whole endeavor. |
| 18:41.51 | DocScrutinizer2 | there's some /sys control (or was it /dev ?) |
| 18:42.26 | DocScrutinizer2 | but you should be able to use sleep(8) iirc |
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| 18:42.58 | gurugentoo | well if the alarm is set, and a suspend is initiated and you have it set to silent on suspend then something would have to turn off the interrupt or it would wake at the specified time correct? |
| 18:43.02 | Digital_Pioneer | Are these manpages? Because my FR has no man, and my laptop doesn't have those pages. |
| 18:43.11 | DocScrutinizer2 | Digital_Pioneer: actually setting the RTC alarm isn't that hard |
| 18:43.23 | Digital_Pioneer | Didn't figure it would be. |
| 18:43.30 | Digital_Pioneer | I just don't know how. :P |
| 18:43.53 | DocScrutinizer2 | Digital_Pioneer: duh, no batch manpage? |
| 18:44.11 | Digital_Pioneer | `man 1 batch` gave no page. |
| 18:44.18 | DocScrutinizer2 | see "man at" then |
| 18:44.34 | Digital_Pioneer | Naa |
| 18:44.37 | Digital_Pioneer | *Nada |
| 18:44.44 | gurugentoo | works for me |
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| 18:46.10 | DocScrutinizer | AT(1) Linux Programmer's Manual AT(1) |
| 18:46.20 | DocScrutinizer | NAME |
| 18:46.20 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.58 | DocScrutinizer2 | also see "man cron" |
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| 18:48.50 | DocScrutinizer2 | atd and crond need to be unified to one binary |
| 18:49.23 | DocScrutinizer2 | so they can share RTC resource |
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| 18:55.11 | DocScrutinizer | also see rtcwake (8), which probably should be used by the unified atd/crond to set next alarm. Maybe also have a look into powersaved (8) |
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| 19:01.30 | frankS2 | how can i connect remote to my tangogps? |
| 19:01.32 | frankS2 | from computer |
| 19:01.37 | frankS2 | what app should i use on the computer |
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| 19:05.08 | hajmola | has anyone gotten locations to actually get a fix? I tried for ten minutes out in the cold and couldn't get a fix |
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| 19:05.28 | lindi- | frankS2: x11vnc + xvnc4viewer |
| 19:05.40 | henk | hajmola: with 2008.9 it worked for me once some time ago... |
| 19:06.06 | hajmola | henk: really? I'm on 2008.12, but even back on 2008.9 i couldn't get it to |
| 19:06.23 | henk | hajmola: just once. |
| 19:06.24 | frankS2 | lindi-: no that was not what ive been thinkg on |
| 19:06.35 | frankS2 | lindi-: i was thinking more like gpsd |
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| 19:10.10 | lindi- | frankS2: ah. just tell tangogps to talk to the phone instead of localhost? |
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| 19:10.30 | frankS2 | lindi-: tangogps for my laptop then? |
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| 19:10.46 | lindi- | frankS2: yep |
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| 19:18.08 | frankS2 | lindi-: thanks man this works fablous |
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| 19:23.33 | frankS2 | lindi-: http://franks.algorit.me/gps.png :) |
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| 19:25.36 | jonkristian | frankS2: not to far from me then:) |
| 19:25.52 | frankS2 | jonkristian: hehe you must bee one of my "friends"? |
| 19:25.54 | frankS2 | trheim? |
| 19:28.53 | frankS2 | jonkristian: i think you appear on the list |
| 19:30.16 | jonkristian | frankS2: yeah |
| 19:30.24 | jonkristian | frankS2: probably not now |
| 19:31.17 | frankS2 | jonkristian: allrite cool |
| 19:31.30 | jonkristian | :) |
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| 19:33.59 | Dave | joink :D |
| 19:34.02 | Dave | jonk |
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| 19:53.09 | Dave | cesarb :) |
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| 19:53.44 | torpor | hello |
| 19:54.01 | torpor | can someone please tell me what is the absolutely best uboot to run on my neo1973 so i can boot debian from a 4gig SD card? |
| 19:54.06 | torpor | i've been trying to work it out for hours. |
| 19:54.20 | torpor | btw, hi again .. been a whie since i poked in here.. |
| 19:54.21 | torpor | +l |
| 19:54.33 | torpor | i wanna put my neo1973 to use with debian. :) |
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| 20:40.07 | lindi- | torpor: how does it fail? |
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| 20:46.28 | Dave | HARD |
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| 21:10.31 | torpor | /exit |
| 21:11.31 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * r27e6e2dfe3c8 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ (factory.py gpschannel.py): ogpsd: add support for debugging via UDP |
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| 21:20.06 | lindi- | udp? |
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| 21:22.21 | acathla | tcp? |
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| 21:24.41 | strahl | good evening :) I am trying to compile qwo and can't figure out how to install the needed imlib2 |
| 21:25.44 | strahl | Does anyone know an URL which I can use with "opkg-target install ..." ? |
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| 21:27.57 | almien | is it normal for python "import urllib" to fail in SHR? |
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| 22:02.01 | zem_ | hi |
| 22:02.04 | CVirus | hai' |
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| 22:04.09 | jokerfox | why is this hwclock: can't open '/dev/misc/rtc': No such file or directory ? |
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| 22:08.24 | jokerfox | this line is a good line ? -> 1362 ? S<s 0:00 /usr/sbin/gpsd /dev/ttySAC1 |
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| 22:11.08 | strahl | @jokerfox: what do you mean by good? It says that your GPS daemon is connecting through ttySAC1 - look fine too me |
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| 23:10.28 | jokerfox | How can I turn off dictionary in om 12 |
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| 23:11.11 | Toaster` | in SHR is there any way to mass delete SMS messages? |
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| 23:21.06 | balrog-kun | the gewmans dominated the maemo-openmoko survey! |
| 23:21.54 | balrog-kun | (after americans to be exact) |
| 23:22.54 | Toaster` | Bit of a Freudian slip there balrog-kun? |
| 23:22.56 | Toaster` | :) |
| 23:27.21 | balrog-kun | Toaster`: i just spent half of the day in the openstreetmap wiki |
| 23:28.17 | balrog-kun | Toaster`: and openstreetmap has more Germans than Germany |
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| 23:30.27 | balrog-kun | good night :) |
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| 23:34.11 | zem_ | Toaster`: maybe you could write a little shell script doing this via dbus |
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| 23:45.55 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * ra5e78f816a9d 10/ (html/index.html xml/org.freesmartphone.GSM.Monitor.xml): link otapi/monitoring and regen docs |
| 23:47.15 | CIA-47 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * rf564afa43a04 10/html/index.html: change order |
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