| 00:00.19 | frankS2 | yo |
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| 00:27.39 | quatrox1 | how can I set the GPRS baud rate? |
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| 00:45.12 | frankS2 | Hi, openmoko do not import all my contacts from my SIMcard (latest Software) is this usual? |
| 00:46.21 | Digital_Pioneer | So what's the deal with this pulster.eu? There's not a price on a single FR accessory. |
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| 00:56.05 | quatrox1 | I can only download 121k before the modem disconnects, unless I limit the download speed..... buffer overflow? |
| 00:57.40 | Digital_Pioneer | Hi. Has anyone tried the ylock program? |
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| 00:59.51 | Blackhex | hi, it's switch from speakers to headphones supposed to work on 2008.12 when plug them in or do I have to do it manually and how, please? |
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| 01:05.01 | frankS2 | how do i quit the apps i have open? |
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| 01:05.19 | KenYoung | frankS2, In which distribution? |
| 01:05.21 | Blackhex | frankS2: what distro? |
| 01:05.50 | sicu | frankS2: distro? |
| 01:05.52 | sicu | ;p |
| 01:06.08 | frankS2 | Blackhex, sicu , KenYoung gta02 |
| 01:06.18 | frankS2 | latest version from mirror |
| 01:06.29 | sicu | what distro is running on the gta02? |
| 01:06.29 | KenYoung | frankS2, That's the phone hardware, not the distro. |
| 01:06.31 | Blackhex | 2008.12? |
| 01:06.32 | frankS2 | (btw: does this distro not support importing sim contats? |
| 01:06.46 | frankS2 | Om2008.9-gta02-20081117 |
| 01:06.55 | KenYoung | frankS2, We mean 2007.2, 2008.12, FDOM, etc... |
| 01:06.55 | frankS2 | wtf |
| 01:06.59 | frankS2 | yea |
| 01:07.14 | frankS2 | thats it |
| 01:07.14 | Blackhex | frankS2: do you have dark asu theme or whit illume? |
| 01:07.14 | frankS2 | thats not the latest? |
| 01:07.17 | frankS2 | dark |
| 01:07.22 | frankS2 | black "wallpaper" |
| 01:07.23 | KenYoung | frankS2, No - there's a 2008.12 now. |
| 01:07.30 | frankS2 | yea |
| 01:07.40 | Blackhex | then remove label on top bar |
| 01:07.40 | frankS2 | you know if that version support importing sim contacts and sms? |
| 01:08.28 | Blackhex | anyone played with headphones and mediaplayer? |
| 01:08.34 | Blackhex | on 2008.12? |
| 01:09.21 | quatrox1 | Blackhex: works great in SHR |
| 01:09.29 | Blackhex | frankS2: I don't know what you mean by importing but any contacts and sms on sim will be visible in qtopia stuff |
| 01:10.00 | frankS2 | Blackhex: when i hit "contacts" it do not appear there |
| 01:10.04 | frankS2 | qtopia is another distro? |
| 01:10.07 | Blackhex | quatrox1: I have plugged headphones but sound went still out from speakers and I don't know how to swicht to headphones |
| 01:10.39 | Blackhex | frankS2: yes in one sence but I ment qtopia applications running in 2008.9 |
| 01:10.46 | frankS2 | ok |
| 01:10.49 | Blackhex | s/sence/sense |
| 01:10.55 | frankS2 | but not the standard apps? |
| 01:11.17 | frankS2 | wlan is either not working in the distro i am running |
| 01:11.21 | Blackhex | frankS2: actually qtopia is used as standard apps for dialing, sms, contacts, etc |
| 01:11.32 | Blackhex | for now |
| 01:12.00 | quatrox1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.12 | Blackhex | quatrox1: now, but I'll |
| 01:12.37 | Blackhex | s/now/no |
| 01:13.31 | Blackhex | quatrox1: If it's not supposused to do this on some acpi event or so I gues I'll have to make a desktop file doing this |
| 01:13.57 | frankS2 | thanks Blackhex you are helping much - but i have another question i am unable to connect to my wlan (no wep/password what ever) fails at XX% |
| 01:14.46 | Blackhex | frankS2: I was not able to use wifi with my routers anytime with any distro |
| 01:14.56 | Blackhex | I'm sorry |
| 01:15.03 | quatrox1 | it should be automated, but I don't know if it is. |
| 01:15.11 | frankS2 | Blackhex: wow... thats so weird |
| 01:15.15 | frankS2 | and sad |
| 01:15.52 | Blackhex | probably because two of them was WPA-PSK and third open but with web authentization |
| 01:15.52 | quatrox1 | huh? |
| 01:15.58 | frankS2 | ok, i have no auth what so ever |
| 01:16.16 | quatrox1 | wifi works like a charm here |
| 01:16.35 | Blackhex | quatrox1: I noticed that plugging headseat in waked the phone so acpi event is generated |
| 01:16.38 | frankS2 | im upgrading from .9 to .12 hope it solves some issues |
| 01:17.14 | Blackhex | quatrox1: with manual wpa_supplicant.conf? |
| 01:18.07 | quatrox1 | Blackhex: then you are likely to have a bad state file |
| 01:18.48 | quatrox1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.41 | Digital_Pioneer | Hi. I'm sick of apps locking up and me having to pull up a terminal and killall them, so I want to make a script that will kill -9 whatever app is in the foreground; and have this script called from siglaunchd when I do some predefined button-pushing. Can someone tell me how I might get a handle (such as PID) of the app in the foreground, programmatically speaking? |
| 01:20.15 | frankS2 | not with PS |
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| 01:20.40 | frankS2 | maybe lsof and kill what uses X |
| 01:20.42 | frankS2 | i dunno :P |
| 01:21.35 | king | I am trying to use a regular keyboard on the openmoko. I need help in simplifying the following line given at the wiki http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Tweaks?version=15: |
| 01:21.45 | king | just remplace /etc/X11/Xserver by this one: |
| 01:21.46 | king | http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=blob_plain;f=packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver;h=a26c5c2d702dd427529f5c67e94058456bc49407 |
| 01:21.57 | king | how is that a file? |
| 01:22.43 | quatrox1 | Digital_Pioneer: i got one idea |
| 01:22.51 | quatrox1 | hold on |
| 01:23.05 | Digital_Pioneer | quatrox1: I look forward to hearing it. :) |
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| 01:24.13 | quatrox1 | Digital_Pioneer: use xprop |
| 01:24.33 | king | What are some of the apps that you people like? |
| 01:24.58 | Digital_Pioneer | quatrox1: What is it and where do I get it? |
| 01:25.06 | Digital_Pioneer | king: Flashlight? ;) |
| 01:25.10 | quatrox1 | terminal and pidgin |
| 01:25.14 | Digital_Pioneer | ShortOM is nice. |
| 01:25.29 | king | Digital_Pioneer, What is ShortOM? |
| 01:25.47 | king | quatrox1, Do you mean you can actually type on the FR? |
| 01:25.53 | Digital_Pioneer | king: A GUI for command-running. Basically, just a list of buttons for commands you use often. |
| 01:26.05 | king | quatrox1, How can you use IM with that kind of KBD? |
| 01:26.08 | Digital_Pioneer | king: Yeah, there's a keyboard that you can bring up on the screen. |
| 01:26.26 | Digital_Pioneer | uses QWO but can see that it's not for everyone. :P |
| 01:26.45 | king | Digital_Pioneer, What is QWO? |
| 01:26.53 | frankS2 | while booting "alsactl: no modules found" |
| 01:26.54 | frankS2 | :( |
| 01:26.57 | quatrox1 | Digital_Pioneer: xprop is an app that knows which window has focus, etc |
| 01:27.38 | quatrox1 | and yes, I use my FR now |
| 01:27.52 | quatrox1 | with pidgin |
| 01:27.56 | Digital_Pioneer | quatrox1: Where do I get it? |
| 01:28.09 | Digital_Pioneer | I don't have it, and a quick search of repos doesn't give me anything. |
| 01:28.19 | Digital_Pioneer | king: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/qwo/ |
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| 01:28.47 | king | thanks! |
| 01:28.49 | frankS2 | wtf... why doesnt openmoko find my eth0 and DSP when booting? |
| 01:29.22 | frankS2 | no sound card detected and no network driver |
| 01:30.31 | frankS2 | and no contacts from SIM-card this time with .12 |
| 01:30.34 | frankS2 | :( |
| 01:30.39 | frankS2 | any other distros? if i just want it to work |
| 01:30.54 | quatrox1 | Digital_Pioneer: google it; all it does is that it collects info from X and the WM |
| 01:31.27 | quatrox1 | http://x.org |
| 01:33.59 | quatrox1 | Digital_Pioneer: I believe xprop is the easiest since you use Qt |
| 01:34.11 | Digital_Pioneer | I do? |
| 01:34.22 | Digital_Pioneer | uses SHR. |
| 01:35.16 | quatrox1 | ahh |
| 01:35.27 | quatrox1 | then ask E |
| 01:35.50 | quatrox1 | but.. |
| 01:36.08 | quatrox1 | shr has this X |
| 01:36.19 | quatrox1 | to quit apps |
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| 01:39.26 | Blackhex | I'm probably on track of the problem with headphones alsactl -f gives me "alsactl: Specify command...". How can I discovers what package particular file belongs to, please? |
| 01:39.52 | mortak | test |
| 01:39.59 | king | How do I erase / backspace letters in SHR keyboard? |
| 01:40.35 | quatrox1 | That is easy |
| 01:40.45 | quatrox1 | hit backspace |
| 01:41.17 | king | I am not talking about the 'terminal' keyboard, what about the 'default' layout? |
| 01:41.19 | quatrox1 | with the Terminal keyboard |
| 01:41.31 | mortak | hehe |
| 01:41.32 | king | How do you backspace in the default layout? |
| 01:41.52 | king | see it coming that someone is going to say it is yet to be implemented |
| 01:42.04 | mortak | try terminal |
| 01:42.10 | quatrox1 | you must edit a file |
| 01:42.24 | king | quatrox1, To get the backspace key on the 'default' keyboard? |
| 01:42.40 | quatrox1 | yes |
| 01:42.50 | king | Digital_Pioneer, the Qwo can never become finger friendly if it requires constant, continuous movement! |
| 01:42.58 | king | quatrox1, Do you have the instructions? |
| 01:43.00 | frankS2 | hello, i flashed to Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2, and now my wlan option has diseppeared, and there is no sound card found? |
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| 01:46.30 | quatrox1 | king: no. Last time I needed to edit the kbd was when I used OM2007.2 with default kbd |
| 01:47.04 | quatrox1 | but check the wiki |
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| 04:10.26 | Digital_Pioneer | Anyone here familiar with siglaunchd? I'm trying to trigger an event when the power button is pressed while holding aux. |
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| 04:28.57 | Slaxxer | whathehell |
| 04:29.02 | Slaxxer | dave |
| 04:29.26 | Slaxxer | whats up with shr? |
| 04:29.59 | Slaxxer | starting to klump the releases? |
| 04:30.44 | Slaxxer | a weekly build seems more productive that a daily anyways |
| 04:31.02 | Slaxxer | but its been a few weeks |
| 04:31.42 | Slaxxer | maybe forming paroli into shr? |
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| 04:42.26 | Slaxxer | well it appears that if u add nothing to 2008.12 it works very well |
| 04:42.48 | Slaxxer | bipak theres your report |
| 04:43.08 | Slaxxer | im adding a terminal |
| 04:44.03 | Slaxxer | locations worked quickly |
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| 04:53.18 | Slaxxer | yup they snuck that release in on us on the sly |
| 04:53.44 | Slaxxer | a sneeky bunch |
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| 05:24.17 | Gandulo | Hi guys |
| 05:29.08 | Slaxxer | bye |
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| 05:49.24 | Slaxxer | http://www.linux.com/articles/42031 |
| 06:06.14 | Slaxxer | where to get mplayer for 2009.12? |
| 06:06.23 | Slaxxer | 2008.12? |
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| 09:23.28 | *** topic/#openmoko is Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | Freerunner is in stock in some resellers. | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Quickstart | See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems | Keyboard numbers for 2008.8 : slide finger up on the keyboard |
| 09:30.52 | gfather[a] | rwhitby: when i send the email i get , You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has |
| 09:30.53 | gfather[a] | been automatically rejected. |
| 09:30.58 | gfather[a] | ? |
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| 09:31.47 | rwhitby | gfather[a]: have you subscribed to the list first? |
| 09:31.50 | gfather[a] | it seems i have to subscribe |
| 09:31.58 | gfather[a] | nah , im doing it now |
| 09:41.22 | gfather[a] | rwhitby ur in the support list ? |
| 09:42.01 | rwhitby | I am a public member of the support mailing list, yes. I have no affiliation with Openmoko other than being part of the development community. |
| 09:42.39 | gfather[a] | lool , thats great , i just wanted to ask if you got the email |
| 09:42.54 | gfather[a] | the email i send go to all the members in the list , right |
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| 09:46.46 | gfather[a] | rwhitby openmeko is build on python , right |
| 09:47.12 | rwhitby | openmoko is built on just about every programming language you can imagine |
| 09:47.13 | gfather[a] | strange it wasent buil like a custome distro , like a custom modified debian |
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| 09:50.49 | gfather[a] | i see , so it has linux kernel , and the output can be anything :) |
| 09:51.10 | gfather[a] | java python , c++ , anything that can run on linux , very impressive |
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| 10:05.31 | Defiant-_ | ...and every interpreter comes with its own librarys and kb needed space... |
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| 10:08.03 | Kronk | Anyone played much with Hackable:1 yet ? |
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| 10:17.28 | Kronk | Is anyone awake ? ;) |
| 10:17.37 | moritz | i'm awake |
| 10:17.38 | Defiant-_ | no |
| 10:17.44 | KenYoung | Kronk, Yup. |
| 10:17.47 | ernst | :D |
| 10:17.55 | Kronk | lol |
| 10:17.56 | ernst | i have Childrean ;-) |
| 10:18.17 | Defiant-_ | funny thing, just watched the 25c3 talk about hackable 5 minutes before Kronk came in |
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| 10:18.41 | KenYoung | Defiant-_, Is that talk online? |
| 10:19.12 | Defiant-_ | 5 minutes talk |
| 10:19.35 | Defiant-_ | 22:56:49 < der-lehmann> download this one http://mirror.core.im/video/25c3/video_h264_720x576/25c3-3048-en-lightning_talks_day2.mp4.torrent |
| 10:19.38 | Defiant-_ | 22:58:12 < der-lehmann> and skip to 42:00 |
| 10:19.58 | KenYoung | Thanks! |
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| 11:34.16 | henk | can anyone give me a 'clean' (or default or whatever) bootenv? |
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| 12:01.23 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rcbddf72db7ee 10/framework/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ogsmd: pdp: subprocess handling is now using the common ProcessGuard |
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| 12:09.38 | SpeedEvil | I note someone on wikipedia has said '(V5) [Htm, Jpg].rar' |
| 12:09.44 | SpeedEvil | sighs. |
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| 12:10.09 | SpeedEvil | The Neo 1973 was designed as [[open source hardware]]. It is mostly using hardware components with open source drivers, and the [[Computer Aided Design|CAD]] files and the [[schematics]] of the phone were published under a free license. |
| 12:10.22 | SpeedEvil | Is the latter actually correct - I dn |
| 12:10.34 | SpeedEvil | 't recall seeing anything on the schematic license |
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| 12:23.42 | dns53 | yes cc i think |
| 12:23.52 | dns53 | may be gpl i don't know |
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| 12:24.47 | dns53 | it's on the wiki the url to download the files, they are about 100-150mb files |
| 12:25.23 | dns53 | the dash gps is based on the openmoko |
| 12:27.29 | rwhitby | dash was done before the schematics were publicly released |
| 12:28.38 | dns53 | it was but it is still based on the same hardware and software |
| 12:29.04 | rwhitby | agreed. |
| 12:29.19 | rwhitby | the schematics are CC, btw. |
| 12:30.00 | SpeedEvil | just kernel AFAIK |
| 12:30.29 | SpeedEvil | stabs Global Locate. |
| 12:32.47 | rwhitby | what's just kernel? |
| 12:34.28 | rwhitby | Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License is the specific license used for the GTA01 schematics |
| 12:35.00 | rwhitby | same for GTA02 |
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| 12:50.23 | think-free | Hi ! Is someone using debian ? |
| 12:50.29 | Tm_T | is |
| 12:50.47 | think-free | can you get your gps working ? |
| 12:50.58 | think-free | since a few day mine doesn't work |
| 12:51.10 | think-free | and it work with fso :/ |
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| 13:15.10 | Defiant-_ | think-free: my gps works |
| 13:15.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | is still fighting the install script :( |
| 13:16.34 | think-free | Defiant-_ : ok, thank you for the test, i'll try to reinstall :/ |
| 13:17.07 | Defiant-_ | think-free: wait |
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| 13:18.51 | think-free | ok |
| 13:20.49 | Defiant-_ | think-free: sorry, afk a few minutes. But you shouldn't reinstall yet |
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| 13:23.34 | think-free | ( afk ? , sorry i'm not native english speaker ... ) , why i shouldn't reinstall ? |
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| 13:31.52 | Defiant-_ | think-free: afk = away from keyboard. reinstall shouldn't be needed |
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| 13:33.03 | Defiant-_ | think-free: ok, lets check. Do you habe mdbus installed? |
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| 13:36.14 | think-free | Defiant-_ : sorry, my girlfriend call me for diner, i'll be back in 20 minutes, will you be here ? |
| 13:36.42 | Defiant-_ | think-free: think so. just highlight me |
| 13:36.53 | think-free | ok, thank |
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| 13:50.20 | evolux | hi! does someone here experience stability problems with "starling"? |
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| 14:12.49 | SpeedEvil | sighs. |
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| 14:13.12 | SpeedEvil | has noticed a recent price spike in flash price due to exchange rate. |
| 14:13.17 | SpeedEvil | Just as |
| 14:13.24 | SpeedEvil | i was about to buy some |
| 14:14.06 | leinir | Funny that... i've noticed a distinct fall in prices of everything when buying it outside of Denmark, for the exact same reason! :) |
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| 14:22.36 | SpeedEvil | ponders alternative currencies. |
| 14:22.40 | SpeedEvil | has an idea. |
| 14:23.08 | SpeedEvil | holds up a cute kitten. |
| 14:23.16 | SpeedEvil | If I get a 8 |
| 14:23.31 | SpeedEvil | G microSD in the mail, this kitten will be unharmed! |
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| 14:26.39 | ronny | SpeedEvil: they taste best with some chili-sauce |
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| 14:48.38 | think-free | Defiant-_ : i'm back ! |
| 14:49.42 | Defiant-_ | think-free: ok, so you made sure that your gps is active? |
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| 14:50.35 | think-free | Defiant-_ : yes, cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron said '1' |
| 14:51.17 | Defiant-_ | think-free: good, with gpsd running what does gpspipe -r say? |
| 14:52.20 | think-free | Defiant-_ : i don't have gpspipe |
| 14:52.47 | think-free | ( i'm running debian, can't find any package with that name ) |
| 14:52.54 | Defiant-_ | gpsd-clients |
| 14:53.01 | think-free | ok ;) |
| 14:53.38 | think-free | E: Couldn't find package gpsd-client |
| 14:53.46 | think-free | oups |
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| 14:54.00 | Defiant-_ | clients, not client |
| 14:54.12 | think-free | yes i saw it after pasting |
| 14:54.16 | Defiant-_ | :) |
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| 14:56.39 | think-free | it give me a lot of think : http://pastebin.com/m133c3911 |
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| 14:58.21 | think-free | Defiant-_ : O_O it work |
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| 14:58.52 | Defiant-_ | think-free: maybe it just needed more time to fix |
| 14:58.57 | think-free | i haven't anythink new except install gpspipe |
| 14:59.19 | think-free | no, yesterday i've wait 5 hours ... |
| 14:59.31 | think-free | wow |
| 14:59.44 | think-free | well, thank you for your help |
| 15:00.02 | Defiant-_ | think-free: outside a building 5 hours? |
| 15:00.30 | think-free | at the window, like now |
| 15:00.46 | Defiant-_ | doesn't always work. Best is really to go outside |
| 15:01.27 | think-free | it always worked for me till ~5 days ago ... |
| 15:01.36 | think-free | but i'll try next time :) |
| 15:01.40 | Defiant-_ | probably luck |
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| 16:06.32 | Pander | hi all, does anyone know how via config files set the font of illume to regualr in stead of bold. the bold is abbreviating the names of the launchers, hence this question |
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| 16:13.02 | walkie | is the gsm0710muxd in 2008.8 and testing repos broken now? |
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| 16:34.36 | leavittx | hey |
| 16:35.17 | leavittx | not all sim cards work on my freerunner(( |
| 16:35.28 | leavittx | what is it? |
| 16:35.49 | ixs | not all sim cards are created equal? |
| 16:36.12 | leavittx | I don't know |
| 16:36.19 | mwester | !oebug 666 |
| 16:36.20 | leavittx | I'm from Russia |
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| 16:36.59 | leavittx | Sim cards of our operator "MegaFon" work |
| 16:37.07 | mwester | ~ombug 666 |
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| 16:37.18 | mwester | (bah - useless bot!) |
| 16:37.28 | leavittx | and sim cds of "Beeline" and "Tele2" don't work |
| 16:37.28 | mwester | See Openmoko bug #666 on this problem. |
| 16:37.43 | leavittx | ok |
| 16:38.36 | brian__ | maybe a firmware updrade is in order |
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| 16:39.54 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 666, Status: HTTP transfer failed :( |
| 16:40.05 | bipak | lol |
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| 16:40.39 | leavittx | I'll try to upgrade to Om 2008.12 Update |
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| 16:43.44 | brian__ | bipak the 2008.12 works well |
| 16:43.56 | brian__ | no updates |
| 16:44.20 | bipak | :D |
| 16:44.46 | bipak | and it fixes the calypso hopping |
| 16:46.38 | mwester | Well.... it works around the hopping problem -- we still would prefer if OM would come up with another GSM firmware update to fix the hopping. |
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| 16:48.16 | bipak | yes that would be better |
| 16:48.49 | bipak | did somebody measure if it consumes more power if its not in deep sleep mode? |
| 16:49.14 | bipak | ok its obvious that it needs more power, but how much |
| 16:49.23 | leavittx | why no updates? |
| 16:49.33 | leavittx | updates are not good? |
| 16:49.39 | leavittx | <brian__> |
| 16:49.49 | bipak | leavittx: i think he means no updates a necessary |
| 16:49.52 | bipak | are |
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| 16:50.58 | brian__ | well i installed 2008.12 an did not install anything |
| 16:51.10 | brian__ | nothing extra |
| 16:51.17 | brian__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.23 | brian__ | NOTHING |
| 16:51.39 | brian__ | an the alarm even worked |
| 16:51.53 | bipak | alarm? where is a alarm function? |
| 16:52.30 | leavittx | ok, I'll install 2008.12. Will it be ok? |
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| 16:52.53 | bipak | brian__: nevermind, found it |
| 16:53.13 | brian__ | lol |
| 16:53.41 | brian__ | locations worked quickly |
| 16:55.13 | brian__ | it set all night an the alarm worked an iy used 1 battery bar |
| 16:55.18 | bipak | lets see if alarm even works in suspend |
| 16:55.18 | bipak | :> |
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| 16:56.09 | brian__ | i didnt suspend ,, |
| 16:56.46 | brian__ | i can touch the screen an it lights up without hitting the power button |
| 16:57.20 | brian__ | so now to install terminal an try wifi |
| 16:58.25 | brian__ | i noticed that in the anouncement there are some custom programs for 2008.12 |
| 16:59.25 | brian__ | omnewrotate? |
| 16:59.35 | bipak | *g* |
| 16:59.57 | bipak | i think there are 100 rotate tools |
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| 17:00.21 | bipak | i rotate the screen by clicking the icon |
| 17:00.52 | brian__ | probly better that way |
| 17:00.52 | bipak | those who rotate the screen automatic are not 100% working |
| 17:00.56 | ixs | sounds like "i move away from the mic to breath in..." |
| 17:01.10 | bipak | lol |
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| 17:11.25 | bipak | hmm |
| 17:11.38 | bipak | alarm wakes the neo up from suspend |
| 17:12.06 | bipak | but the alarm sound sounds crappy and theres a mediaserver process running which consums 80% cpu |
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| 17:15.59 | postman2051 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.48 | postman2051 | hopefully someone could help me... I don't see the eth0 (wlan) device of my gta02 anymore. |
| 17:17.57 | postman2051 | I had it up and running, using the 2008.08 image and tried various kernels, but the eth0 device is not there. |
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| 17:18.41 | postman2051 | hast anyone a 2008.12 image and kernel running on a gta02 with working wlan? |
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| 17:22.06 | brian__ | yup |
| 17:22.18 | brian__ | did u try iptables? |
| 17:22.53 | brian__ | did u check /etc/resolv.conf for a public ip address? |
| 17:23.16 | postman2051 | ifconfig lists lo and usb0, but no eth0 |
| 17:23.37 | brian__ | on yout linus desktop? |
| 17:23.57 | brian__ | x |
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| 17:24.01 | postman2051 | using ssh on my gta02 |
| 17:24.35 | brian__ | is there an ip in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 17:25.16 | postman2051 | got two nameserver ip's there. the default resolv.conf |
| 17:25.21 | brian__ | did u reboot? |
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| 17:35.52 | brian__ | so om is staying far away from the mp3 issue ic |
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| 17:36.16 | brian__ | i cant find mplayer ipk |
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| 17:47.58 | leavittx | hey |
| 17:48.28 | leavittx | I've installed 2008.12 and I have no wifi in settings((( |
| 17:48.45 | leavittx | what's the problem? |
| 17:49.25 | brian__ | install a terminal an use terminal |
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| 17:51.07 | leavittx | and if I want to use menu? |
| 17:51.14 | leavittx | for wifi |
| 17:51.31 | leavittx | and how can I install terminal without wifi? |
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| 17:52.43 | brian__ | http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2021547 |
| 17:52.56 | brian__ | hook up using usb |
| 17:52.59 | brian__ | ssh |
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| 17:53.51 | brian__ | they are having issues with the wifi launcher |
| 17:54.09 | brian__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:58.33 | leavittx | which option in kernel adds support for freerunner as usb0 network device? |
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| 17:59.52 | SpeedEvil | cdc_acm |
| 17:59.56 | SpeedEvil | err |
| 17:59.59 | SpeedEvil | cdc_ether |
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| 18:00.23 | SpeedEvil | that's on the desktop side |
| 18:02.22 | leavittx | yep |
| 18:04.33 | leavittx | hm |
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| 18:04.52 | leavittx | I can't connect to neo via ssh(( |
| 18:05.01 | leavittx | ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:05.03 | leavittx | done |
| 18:05.09 | leavittx | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.13 | leavittx | not works |
| 18:05.26 | leavittx | Destination Host Unreachable |
| 18:05.49 | postman2051 | hi all, back again. got the wifi stuff working again. for some reasons i needed to do a initial ifconfig eth0 up to get it working. Thanks for your help! |
| 18:07.09 | brian__ | after doing that 2008.12 mplayer thing i get lots of failed dependencies a |
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| 18:08.24 | brian__ | pythem didnt install |
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| 18:10.53 | brian__ | leavittx |
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| 18:11.37 | brian__ | i had to enable 2 things in my kernel |
| 18:12.07 | brian__ | also did u use iptables to connect? |
| 18:12.23 | leavittx | not yet |
| 18:12.31 | leavittx | but I'll try now |
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| 18:14.25 | brian__ | iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 |
| 18:14.25 | brian__ | sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 |
| 18:14.25 | brian__ | ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 |
| 18:14.40 | feitingen | does anyone know where i can find the sources of the mplayer that works with the glamo_ |
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| 18:14.49 | feitingen | s/_/? |
| 18:15.21 | brian__ | i tried that how-to from http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2021547 |
| 18:15.29 | brian__ | failed |
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| 18:30.42 | bipak | brian__: could you try if your alarm app takes alot of cpu when "ringing"? |
| 18:31.31 | brian__ | it was the first time that the allarm sounded right |
| 18:31.44 | brian__ | al times before it sounded weak |
| 18:32.10 | bipak | yes mine crackles and takes 60-80%cpu |
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| 18:37.50 | brian__ | reboot an try also was it a clean install( did u have anything else installed? |
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| 18:39.28 | brian__ | wow shit just dissapeared on the mailing list |
| 18:40.57 | brian__ | http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2021547 |
| 18:42.18 | brian__ | is there a reason? |
| 18:43.03 | brian__ | who did that? |
| 18:43.57 | brian__ | somebody just removed the instructions for mplayer |
| 18:44.42 | brian__ | it finally worked for me after the dependencies were fulfilled |
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| 18:45.06 | bbits | hi anyone got android image running on freerunner ? |
| 18:46.18 | brian__ | for a while |
| 18:46.48 | brian__ | used a jffs2 file |
| 18:50.22 | brian__ | now the only thing installed is pythm |
| 18:51.27 | brian__ | suspend started working after first reboot |
| 18:51.39 | brian__ | on 2008.12 |
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| 18:58.08 | bbits | brian__ what does it mean to adjust ubbot environment for kernel of more than 2MB |
| 18:58.16 | bbits | how do i do that ? |
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| 19:06.12 | brian__ | what u trying to do? |
| 19:06.18 | brian__ | debian? |
| 19:08.05 | brian__ | proly Qi is what u want |
| 19:08.12 | lindi- | why qi? |
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| 19:08.34 | brian__ | sugessted on the debian wiki |
| 19:09.38 | lindi- | brian__: but still, why? is there any reason besides speedup? |
| 19:09.48 | brian__ | i dont know |
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| 19:11.16 | brian__ | apparently u can adjust uboot so i think they are saying Qi is whats going to be used in the future is what i read but that may all be bullshit |
| 19:11.36 | brian__ | i use uboot |
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| 19:28.22 | brian__ | maybe an updated ub is in order |
| 19:28.29 | brian__ | uboot |
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| 19:31.03 | leavittx | hm. my sim card don't work on 2008.12 |
| 19:31.30 | leavittx | and I think it is not a 3g one |
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| 19:49.28 | feitingen | finally i got a2dp with my openmoko :D |
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| 19:52.40 | lollisoft | Hi, anyone using FSO image from today here ? |
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| 19:57.27 | lollisoft | Anyone awake ? |
| 19:57.38 | leavittx | <brian__>, I'm afraid, I didn't understand you(( |
| 19:57.39 | leavittx | my sim don't work |
| 19:57.39 | Slaxxer | u didnt remove the sim an may have installed it incorrectly |
| 19:57.40 | Slaxxer | ? |
| 19:57.40 | feitingen | <3 the angstrom repositories |
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| 19:58.22 | leavittx | I think, it is installed enough correctly;)) |
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| 19:59.35 | leavittx | only one of my sim cards works |
| 19:59.50 | leavittx | (I have 3 different sim cards) |
| 19:59.53 | Slaxxer | thats enough |
| 20:00.22 | lollisoft | Hi, anyone using FSO image from today here ? |
| 20:00.30 | Slaxxer | the ones that do not work ,,are the contacts offset to one side badly? |
| 20:01.14 | Slaxxer | i used fso 3 days ago |
| 20:02.23 | lollisoft | Did you have successfully used GPS behind a window or in the car ? My prior 2008/9 was better there. It seems really unstable of is the kernel still dropping GPS data ? |
| 20:03.17 | Slaxxer | gps didnt work for me |
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| 20:04.42 | lollisoft | In the 4.1 milestone me also not, thus I updated to testing. It's better, but not as good as 2008/9. |
| 20:05.17 | leavittx | <Slaxxer>, what do you mean? |
| 20:05.18 | lollisoft | Also I read something in GPS modes that have been changed. Is that rigth ? |
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| 20:13.59 | leavittx | hey, any ideas about non-working sim card? |
| 20:14.02 | leavittx | =)) |
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| 20:28.49 | Papillon | Si vous savez dupliquer un objet dans la réalitée, contactez-moi en privé, j'ai besoin d'information. |
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| 20:37.12 | Papillon | donnez-moi ce que je demande |
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| 20:59.30 | sebastian_ | hi, i just flashed my freerunner with SHR unstable (20081224) rootfs and kernel and it's not booting anymore. what should i do? |
| 21:00.55 | sebastian_ | (http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/) |
| 21:02.10 | sebastian_ | ok after plugging the usb cable it boots when i press the AUX-power combination... but there is no boot manager... |
| 21:02.35 | sebastian_ | and it stops after saying "debug dir creation failed" |
| 21:03.37 | sebastian_ | what the hell... |
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| 21:07.26 | leavittx | sorry, but I don't know what to say...=)) |
| 21:07.55 | seameat|work | sebastian_, did you use Neotool to flash? |
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| 21:08.59 | jokerfox | I installed FSO4, and did a upgrade, My x-server wont start. |
| 21:09.05 | sebastian_ | seameat|work: yes. now after trying it 3 more times, it did boot. |
| 21:09.10 | jokerfox | Is this a known issue ? |
| 21:09.38 | seameat|work | sebastian_, ok cool |
| 21:10.08 | seameat|work | sebastian_, after i flash, I unplug from usb and let it sit for 30 seconds before booting, otherwise i sometimes have issues, too |
| 21:12.38 | sebastian_ | seameat|work: okay thanks for this tip. i unplugged it, tried to boot by pressing power for about 5 secs and nothing happened. then i tried it again and again, and then i tried the aux power combination, it vibrated but again nothing happened... then with usb plugged in, the first time it had issues again and the second time it worked. :) |
| 21:13.37 | seameat|work | sebastian_, i think you have to hold power button for like 8 sec. also, after it vibrates, continue pressing power for about 2 more seconds |
| 21:14.26 | sebastian_ | okay. i have my freerunner only for about one week, so i'm new to this "world" :D |
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| 21:18.10 | SpeedEvil | Ââ¬ÂÂâ¬Â½Â¹ÂÂâ¬Â½Â¾{¹|¹â¬Â½â¬ÂÂâ¬Â |
| 21:18.16 | SpeedEvil | oops |
| 21:18.19 | sebastian_ | :) |
| 21:19.02 | sebastian_ | seameat|work: ok i now know why it failed when not plugged in: my battery was low :) that's an explanation, isn't it? ^^ |
| 21:20.05 | SpeedEvil | Ââ¬ÂÂâ¬Â/win goto 1 |
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| 21:26.19 | seameat|work | sebastian_, i think that would be it |
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| 21:42.55 | bipak_ | lollisoft: I've found a solution for your mplayer prob |
| 21:43.11 | bipak_ | check om mailing list :) |
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| 22:07.00 | jokerfox | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:10.16 | leia_20 | hi! |
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| 22:11.41 | leia_20 | i'm using SHR, how i can install more video codecs? |
| 22:12.39 | sebastian_ | jokerfox: i cant open it with firefox... |
| 22:12.52 | leia_20 | and associate filetypes to apps in gpe-filemanager? |
| 22:13.13 | sebastian_ | i'm interested in this, too :) |
| 22:13.25 | sebastian_ | (file association) |
| 22:13.29 | bernt | leia_20: perhaps `scp /usr/lib/win32/* ` from your desktop pc |
| 22:14.13 | lindi- | bernt: x86 libraries to armel system? |
| 22:14.23 | leia_20 | sure bernt? same codecs in diferent distros? |
| 22:14.25 | sebastian_ | bernt: no such dir on my desktop... |
| 22:14.32 | sebastian_ | (ubuntu) |
| 22:17.03 | bernt | sebastian_: I have installed w32codecs from packages.medibuntu.org |
| 22:17.48 | leia_20 | and how do you do that? bernt |
| 22:18.22 | sebastian_ | ... cu |
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| 22:19.49 | bernt | leia_20: you can add "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid free non-free" to your /etc/apt/sources.list ... |
| 22:20.09 | leia_20 | ... in my openmoko? |
| 22:20.10 | lindi- | leia_20: but beware, those are non-free |
| 22:20.17 | bernt | (wenn you use intrpid as distro) |
| 22:21.10 | leia_20 | o_O |
| 22:21.22 | bernt | leia_20: which distribution has your desktop pc? |
| 22:21.34 | leia_20 | debian lenny |
| 22:23.34 | bernt | you could try debian-multimedia.org |
| 22:24.19 | leia_20 | ... em ... sorry, i want video codecs in my NFR |
| 22:27.14 | leia_20 | how i can install more video codecs in SHR? |
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| 22:37.24 | bernt | lindi-: which one of x86, PPC, AMD64, Alpha (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html) could be compareable to the armel system? |
| 22:47.21 | bipak_ | no one |
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| 23:30.29 | leia_20 | how i can install more video codecs in my OM with SHR? |
| 23:37.37 | bipak_ | leia_20: maybe its better to ask on the mailinglist |
| 23:38.09 | leia_20 | maybe ... |
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